WEBVTT 00:00:14.189 --> 00:00:16.789 Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of 00:00:16.789 --> 00:00:19.269 Seneca Lake Mysteries, the podcast exploring 00:00:19.269 --> 00:00:23.489 the unusual, strange, and unexplained on New 00:00:23.489 --> 00:00:26.629 York's largest finger lake. Thanks as always 00:00:26.629 --> 00:00:29.190 for listening, and if you haven't done so, please 00:00:29.190 --> 00:00:31.870 subscribe to the podcast, like, comment, share. 00:00:32.049 --> 00:00:35.950 Make sure to visit SenecaLakeMysteries .com and 00:00:35.950 --> 00:00:38.549 subscribe there on the website so you don't miss 00:00:38.549 --> 00:00:42.829 any updates. So this time around, Rick from Alpine 00:00:42.829 --> 00:00:45.969 is back on the podcast as we discuss our recent 00:00:45.969 --> 00:00:49.990 visit to Connecticut Hill to look for a mysterious 00:00:49.990 --> 00:00:53.289 stone pile that Rick first saw and photographed 00:00:53.289 --> 00:00:58.350 back in 2022. And just like our last trip to 00:00:58.350 --> 00:01:00.789 the Alpine portal, which we talked about in episode 00:01:00.789 --> 00:01:05.650 10, this time we also found a lot more than we 00:01:05.650 --> 00:01:09.560 anticipated. But first... I have a story from 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:13.079 a listener who heard the episode 13 story of 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:17.799 the multi -witness UFO sighting in Ovid back 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:21.480 in 1980. After hearing the story, the listener 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:24.519 was reminded of a sighting his mother had in 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:27.980 the same time frame. So here's that story as 00:01:27.980 --> 00:01:31.500 it was told to me. So the listener's family lived 00:01:31.500 --> 00:01:35.840 on a farm in the Ovid -Lodi area. And one night 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:39.109 in 1980... When the listener was around 8 to 00:01:39.109 --> 00:01:42.810 10 years old, his mother woke up at around 2 00:01:42.810 --> 00:01:47.189 a .m. one morning and felt a strange compulsion 00:01:47.189 --> 00:01:51.909 to look out of the bedroom window. And when she 00:01:51.909 --> 00:01:55.090 got to the window, she saw an extremely bright, 00:01:55.290 --> 00:02:00.049 glowing object hovering in the air, not too far 00:02:00.049 --> 00:02:03.569 from the ground, roughly 100 yards from the house. 00:02:04.069 --> 00:02:08.219 She then... kneeled in front of the window to 00:02:08.219 --> 00:02:11.060 kind of settle in to watch this strange object 00:02:11.060 --> 00:02:14.419 which she estimated to be approximately the size 00:02:14.419 --> 00:02:17.159 of a volleyball although it was giving off an 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:21.360 extraordinary amount of light and then suddenly 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:25.580 the object steadily began moving directly towards 00:02:25.580 --> 00:02:29.819 the woman into the backyard of the house as she 00:02:29.819 --> 00:02:34.090 said the entire backyard was brightly lit by 00:02:34.090 --> 00:02:40.169 this object's blinding intensity. Then the object 00:02:40.169 --> 00:02:43.789 stopped within 10, 20 feet of the house below 00:02:43.789 --> 00:02:46.770 the bedroom window where the woman was watching. 00:02:46.990 --> 00:02:52.289 And then the object floated straight up and stopped 00:02:52.289 --> 00:02:56.729 directly in front of her. Now, she later said 00:02:56.729 --> 00:03:00.889 that at no time was she alarmed or afraid. Instead, 00:03:01.030 --> 00:03:04.819 she was just kind of... amazed and mesmerized 00:03:04.819 --> 00:03:08.979 by the object. So it floated there directly outside 00:03:08.979 --> 00:03:12.060 the window for maybe 30 seconds or a minute, 00:03:12.180 --> 00:03:16.960 almost as if it was greeting the woman or at 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:20.520 least like letting her know that it knew she 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.240 was watching like they were both observing each 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:26.759 other. And again, the entire backyard is lit 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:30.319 up by the light coming from this orb. Then... 00:03:30.650 --> 00:03:33.990 The object moved away from the window, headed 00:03:33.990 --> 00:03:37.550 further away to the west, picking up speed before 00:03:37.550 --> 00:03:41.069 it dipped down below the horizon and towards 00:03:41.069 --> 00:03:45.509 Seneca Lake. And then the woman just went back 00:03:45.509 --> 00:03:49.469 to bed. And the next day, she spoke to her family 00:03:49.469 --> 00:03:52.849 about the experience. Nobody else in the family 00:03:52.849 --> 00:03:54.949 had woken up or seen the orb or knew anything 00:03:54.949 --> 00:03:58.840 about it. And they kind of... in the moment chalked 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.599 it up as, you know, a one -time weird event that 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.879 the mother had experienced until they saw the 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:08.680 story in the Finger Lakes Times, the story that 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:15.520 I discussed in that previous episode. Now, the 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.560 listener wasn't able to give the exact number 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:20.060 of days that had gone by between his mother's 00:04:20.060 --> 00:04:22.339 sighting and the newspaper report, but he was 00:04:22.339 --> 00:04:25.199 very confident that it was no more than several 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:28.139 days because... When the family saw the article, 00:04:28.259 --> 00:04:32.839 they got very excited to learn that the sighting 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.540 on their farm and what their mother saw very 00:04:35.540 --> 00:04:39.600 likely wasn't the only sighting in the area around 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:45.839 that time. And although the encounter was incredibly 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.480 strange, the mother didn't report it to the newspaper 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:52.339 or anyone, and it just kind of became part of 00:04:52.339 --> 00:04:54.790 the family's history, just that. you know, one 00:04:54.790 --> 00:04:57.990 weird night where mom saw something unexplainable 00:04:57.990 --> 00:05:01.449 in the backyard. And the listener decided to 00:05:01.449 --> 00:05:04.870 contact me because he said that while he hadn't 00:05:04.870 --> 00:05:07.829 completely forgotten the event, it sort of, you 00:05:07.829 --> 00:05:10.790 know, faded into the mists of time, like in the 00:05:10.790 --> 00:05:12.730 back of his mind. And he didn't think about it 00:05:12.730 --> 00:05:16.149 too often. But after hearing episode 13, he said 00:05:16.149 --> 00:05:18.649 that memory came back and decided to reach out 00:05:18.649 --> 00:05:21.449 and tell me the story so I could share it with 00:05:21.449 --> 00:05:23.230 all of you. So I want to thank the listener. 00:05:23.610 --> 00:05:25.790 very much for getting a hold of me and sharing 00:05:25.790 --> 00:05:29.990 this family story from decades ago, because at 00:05:29.990 --> 00:05:33.370 least for me, it adds more credibility and weight 00:05:33.370 --> 00:05:36.730 to the sighting that was reported in the paper 00:05:36.730 --> 00:05:43.810 40 -plus years ago. And it adds one more compelling 00:05:43.810 --> 00:05:48.089 anomalous story to the long and wide -ranging 00:05:48.089 --> 00:05:52.620 history of the unusual, strange... and unexplained 00:05:52.620 --> 00:05:56.839 around Seneca Lake. So, and before we get to 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:58.980 the interview with Rick, I also want to share 00:05:58.980 --> 00:06:03.100 a quick one from an article in the Elmira Star 00:06:03.100 --> 00:06:07.579 Gazette that was published on August 21st, 1895. 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.699 So we're going back to the old days, olden days. 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.879 Now, although the article doesn't provide any 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:18.459 names or exact locations, it still paints a pretty 00:06:18.459 --> 00:06:20.939 cool picture of a mysterious buried treasure. 00:06:21.529 --> 00:06:25.209 near Seneca Lake that, if it exists, may never 00:06:25.209 --> 00:06:29.129 have been found. So what happened is in the summer 00:06:29.129 --> 00:06:34.069 of 1895, two visitors arrived in Geneva, New 00:06:34.069 --> 00:06:38.230 York, at the northern end of Seneca Lake. These 00:06:38.230 --> 00:06:41.250 were two men who were from Elmira, New York, 00:06:41.269 --> 00:06:43.670 which is about 20 miles south of Watkins Glen 00:06:43.670 --> 00:06:47.689 at the southern tip of Seneca Lake. And these 00:06:47.689 --> 00:06:52.519 men were hunting for... hidden riches. They said 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:56.480 that their story was that another man, who was 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:01.279 also unnamed, had been just a few days from his 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:05.240 death and confessed that he had helped rob a 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:11.699 bank in Geneva 47 years earlier. Now, this man, 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:16.899 in his deathbed confession, said that he and 00:07:16.899 --> 00:07:21.839 his Fellow bank robbers netted about $25 ,000, 00:07:22.100 --> 00:07:26.180 which they stashed in an iron box that was then 00:07:26.180 --> 00:07:31.680 secured inside an oak box and buried in a ravine 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:36.939 on the eastern shore of Seneca Lake. So this 00:07:36.939 --> 00:07:41.259 duo, these two men from Elmira, spent a week 00:07:41.259 --> 00:07:45.100 in Geneva looking into the subject, asking questions, 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.509 and then... The article says they grabbed a divining 00:07:48.509 --> 00:07:54.209 rod and headed out to visit a lakeside farm in 00:07:54.209 --> 00:07:59.949 Lodi that they believed was the location of this 00:07:59.949 --> 00:08:03.689 buried treasure. Now, coincidentally, the farm 00:08:03.689 --> 00:08:07.870 had also been the location of a previous treasure 00:08:07.870 --> 00:08:12.430 hunt several years earlier when a clairvoyant 00:08:12.829 --> 00:08:15.970 claimed that a great fortune was hidden somewhere 00:08:15.970 --> 00:08:19.310 on the farm, and a group of searchers came there, 00:08:19.410 --> 00:08:23.870 dug around, and came up empty. And ultimately, 00:08:23.930 --> 00:08:26.029 it's unknown whether the two men from Elmira 00:08:26.029 --> 00:08:30.110 ever found Seneca Lake's buried treasure. The 00:08:30.110 --> 00:08:32.370 article doesn't say so. Now, if they found it, 00:08:32.389 --> 00:08:34.409 they might not have told anyone, because really 00:08:34.409 --> 00:08:38.149 it was stolen money, and even back then, it's 00:08:38.149 --> 00:08:40.549 unlikely that they would have been allowed to 00:08:40.549 --> 00:08:44.190 keep all of it. And if they didn't find it, that 00:08:44.190 --> 00:08:48.789 could mean if the treasure actually existed, 00:08:48.909 --> 00:08:52.350 it's still buried somewhere in a ravine near 00:08:52.350 --> 00:08:57.009 Seneca Lake. So I'm not encouraging anyone to 00:08:57.009 --> 00:08:59.570 trespass on private property in search of an 00:08:59.570 --> 00:09:05.990 old $25 ,000 treasure chest that might not even 00:09:05.990 --> 00:09:10.690 exist. But without any other details, this still 00:09:10.690 --> 00:09:14.230 remains. A really cool story and a true mystery. 00:09:15.750 --> 00:09:19.269 So, again, thanks for listening. Let's get to 00:09:19.269 --> 00:09:21.389 my conversation with Rick. And for those who 00:09:21.389 --> 00:09:24.470 may not know, Connecticut Hill, which is also 00:09:24.470 --> 00:09:27.710 known as the Alpine Portal, is located several 00:09:27.710 --> 00:09:30.330 miles south of Seneca Lake at the southern tip 00:09:30.330 --> 00:09:34.909 of the Seneca Lake watershed. And Connecticut 00:09:34.909 --> 00:09:38.049 Hill is widely known for mysterious phenomena 00:09:38.049 --> 00:09:43.549 like UFOs. hauntings, cryptid sightings, orbs, 00:09:43.590 --> 00:09:46.330 anomalous weather, and even some Bigfoot reports, 00:09:46.470 --> 00:09:50.230 and more. So a few months back, Rick and I took 00:09:50.230 --> 00:09:53.809 a trip up onto the hill to try and locate a large 00:09:53.809 --> 00:09:56.610 stone pile in the middle of the woods that Rick 00:09:56.610 --> 00:10:00.129 had seen and photographed in 2022. We didn't 00:10:00.129 --> 00:10:02.350 find that stone pile, but we did find something 00:10:02.350 --> 00:10:05.049 even more interesting, and you can listen to 00:10:05.049 --> 00:10:07.889 that older episode to learn about that story. 00:10:09.529 --> 00:10:12.710 Also, for those who aren't familiar, native stone 00:10:12.710 --> 00:10:15.789 piles have been found around the United States 00:10:15.789 --> 00:10:18.809 and the world, including the Northeast U .S. 00:10:18.850 --> 00:10:23.149 They can range from small piles to large elaborate 00:10:23.149 --> 00:10:27.769 groupings that may include chambers or internal 00:10:27.769 --> 00:10:31.370 features. Some were used to mark trails and burial 00:10:31.370 --> 00:10:35.549 sites, while others held ceremonial importance 00:10:35.549 --> 00:10:39.779 to the people who constructed them. Although 00:10:39.779 --> 00:10:43.200 some stone piles and structures may be the remains 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:48.580 of colonial construction, property markers, fences, 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:53.500 stone piles from farming, the stone piles on 00:10:53.500 --> 00:10:58.019 Connecticut Hill are in remote locations on very 00:10:58.019 --> 00:11:02.159 rugged terrain in steep ravines, which to me 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:05.980 indicates that they were built long before the 00:11:05.980 --> 00:11:11.639 arrival of Europeans. in the late 1800s. So thanks 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:14.220 again for listening, and let's get to the chat 00:11:14.220 --> 00:11:25.740 with Rick from Alpine. Okay, I'm here with Rick 00:11:25.740 --> 00:11:30.480 from Alpine, and we're going to run down our 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:34.200 last visit to Connecticut Hill. Rick, how's it 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:38.080 going? Hey, Tim. How you doing? I'm doing great. 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:41.440 How are you? Good. Cool. A little distracted 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.340 earlier today, but I'm doing well now. That's 00:11:45.340 --> 00:11:50.279 good. Yeah, we got a little, took a little tweaking 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.399 for our audio. I started hearing that echo again 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.620 like we did last time, but we're good to go now. 00:11:57.059 --> 00:12:01.639 So, yeah, let's get into it. Last weekend on, 00:12:01.740 --> 00:12:06.799 I guess it was Sunday the 7th. We met up and 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:11.639 took another trip up to Connecticut Hill. The 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:15.200 first thing I'll mention is that we didn't go 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:23.019 to find the quartz ledge that is up there on 00:12:23.019 --> 00:12:24.720 the hill somewhere. Because I guess you have 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:28.639 a neighbor who is going to show you where it 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:32.629 is. yeah he he's really the one who found it 00:12:32.629 --> 00:12:37.549 on the side hill so he wasn't available to uh 00:12:37.549 --> 00:12:42.070 take us up there but i mean you know we saw quite 00:12:42.070 --> 00:12:46.610 a bit of quartz on our walk going up uh anyway 00:12:46.610 --> 00:12:50.929 up to where we were going to find the uh rock 00:12:50.929 --> 00:12:55.169 mounds yeah yeah for sure there was it was um 00:12:55.169 --> 00:12:58.909 at least one like pretty large piece like maybe 00:12:58.909 --> 00:13:01.750 a foot wide a couple feet long that was just 00:13:01.750 --> 00:13:04.750 kind of embedded right in the ground and really 00:13:04.750 --> 00:13:08.529 like when you wander around up there it's not 00:13:08.529 --> 00:13:11.009 uncommon just to see chunks of quartz like sitting 00:13:11.009 --> 00:13:15.029 here and sitting there um so there's a lot yeah 00:13:15.029 --> 00:13:17.509 definitely a lot up there but yeah it's kind 00:13:17.509 --> 00:13:21.190 of it's kind of amazing how much uh quartz is 00:13:21.190 --> 00:13:24.690 actually around in the area up there you would 00:13:24.690 --> 00:13:28.279 think it would be like just rock And not so much 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:33.759 quartz as there is. Right. Yeah, it's definitely 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:38.879 a cool, weird place. And I wonder if that quartz 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:41.820 has anything to do with, I mean, I'm sure the 00:13:41.820 --> 00:13:44.539 quartz has something to do with all the strange 00:13:44.539 --> 00:13:47.159 things that happen to people up there. And our 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:50.480 day was, I mean, not overtly strange, strange, 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.409 but. But there were definitely some odd things 00:13:54.409 --> 00:13:57.309 that were happening throughout the day. So we 00:13:57.309 --> 00:14:03.450 got there and we went up and we parked. And the 00:14:03.450 --> 00:14:07.809 first place we were looking for is the stone 00:14:07.809 --> 00:14:12.970 pile that you had photographed. Was it like a 00:14:12.970 --> 00:14:17.549 couple of years ago? Yeah, 2022 was actually 00:14:17.549 --> 00:14:21.600 when that first picture was taken. uh november 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:27.879 so that was during deer rifle seasons right so 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:34.039 um so that was our first um target so we so we 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:36.919 went up on the we went up on the hill we we walked 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:42.399 up a a logging road into the woods um there's 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:46.240 no no like marked trails or anything there and 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.830 um Yeah, it was a beautiful day, you know, mid 00:14:49.830 --> 00:14:55.629 -70s, sunny, light breeze, not anywhere close 00:14:55.629 --> 00:14:59.570 to as oppressive as it was last time we went 00:14:59.570 --> 00:15:03.850 up there when it was like 100 degrees. So we 00:15:03.850 --> 00:15:08.629 got there. We headed on the logging road. And 00:15:08.629 --> 00:15:14.350 I think at least my phone reception was a little 00:15:14.350 --> 00:15:16.330 bit, it wasn't perfect, but it was a little bit 00:15:16.330 --> 00:15:20.340 better. in that area than it was in the other 00:15:20.340 --> 00:15:24.240 area we were in last time yeah for sure i mean 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:29.200 where that um cell tower is up there it's it's 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.899 blocked by the one side of the mountain where 00:15:31.899 --> 00:15:36.700 we were the first time so that kind of like blocks 00:15:36.700 --> 00:15:39.720 and it kind of goes over your head instead of 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:43.730 down to your phone to get receptions But it was 00:15:43.730 --> 00:15:46.450 definitely better there than it was in the first 00:15:46.450 --> 00:15:50.889 strip for sure. Yeah. And which made it much, 00:15:50.929 --> 00:15:55.129 much easier to try to triangulate where this 00:15:55.129 --> 00:15:59.090 mound was and find it from the metadata that 00:15:59.090 --> 00:16:02.269 was on the photo that you took back in 2022. 00:16:04.529 --> 00:16:07.990 So we headed in. Now, one thing happened. I want 00:16:07.990 --> 00:16:10.950 to mention it now. And then we'll come back to 00:16:10.950 --> 00:16:15.809 it later. But as we were walking in on the, on 00:16:15.809 --> 00:16:20.289 the logging road or an old logging road, you 00:16:20.289 --> 00:16:23.750 notice something off of the path, maybe 50, 60 00:16:23.750 --> 00:16:29.509 feet off to our left in the trees. And it was 00:16:29.509 --> 00:16:32.350 just some kind of white object that was just 00:16:32.350 --> 00:16:35.710 sitting. It looked completely out of place. Yeah. 00:16:36.789 --> 00:16:43.289 So go ahead. That I thought was one of those 00:16:43.289 --> 00:16:49.450 mylar balloons. And there's a whole old like 00:16:49.450 --> 00:16:53.909 mythology about deer hunting where if you find 00:16:53.909 --> 00:16:57.389 these mylar balloons that float around in the 00:16:57.389 --> 00:17:01.210 air, they will actually catch the currents that 00:17:01.210 --> 00:17:07.890 bucks use to smell predators or... other deer 00:17:07.890 --> 00:17:11.789 or wolves stuff like that or coyotes whatever's 00:17:11.789 --> 00:17:15.789 up in the area but um it turned out to be some 00:17:15.789 --> 00:17:21.549 kind of a like white jug so it wasn't what i 00:17:21.549 --> 00:17:25.029 thought it was but that completely turned us 00:17:25.029 --> 00:17:30.250 looking left instead of paying attention to the 00:17:30.250 --> 00:17:35.730 right side right of the logging road right and 00:17:35.730 --> 00:17:38.049 uh Yeah, so you went over and you took a closer 00:17:38.049 --> 00:17:39.589 look at it, and you were like, yeah, it's just 00:17:39.589 --> 00:17:44.130 some kind of plastic jug or something. So we 00:17:44.130 --> 00:17:46.990 got distracted by that, and then we got back 00:17:46.990 --> 00:17:52.470 on the path and started walking. And then we 00:17:52.470 --> 00:17:58.329 were trying to find that stone pile. At first, 00:17:58.329 --> 00:18:01.990 we got a little bit... I mean, we were getting 00:18:01.990 --> 00:18:03.890 a little bit closer to it and then we would seem 00:18:03.890 --> 00:18:06.250 to go away a little bit. It wasn't quite as drastic 00:18:06.250 --> 00:18:09.450 as last time at all. It didn't take us that long 00:18:09.450 --> 00:18:15.130 to find it. But at one point we were, I think 00:18:15.130 --> 00:18:19.710 it was on one side of, we were near the, we were 00:18:19.710 --> 00:18:22.069 kind of near the bottom of a ravine, right? Where 00:18:22.069 --> 00:18:26.470 there was like that. We were kind of at like 00:18:26.470 --> 00:18:29.829 where the ravine would come down. and meet with 00:18:29.829 --> 00:18:33.690 a logging road so we like kind of got brought 00:18:33.690 --> 00:18:37.930 to the left side of that ravine and started walking 00:18:37.930 --> 00:18:43.910 up where the um i guess you would call it gps 00:18:43.910 --> 00:18:48.569 on the picture itself was bringing us but the 00:18:48.569 --> 00:18:51.609 signal kept going in and out and we would lose 00:18:51.609 --> 00:18:55.549 it so i'd have to get out of the picture and 00:18:55.549 --> 00:19:00.299 then go back in to get it to restart that tracking 00:19:00.299 --> 00:19:05.240 of where the spot was. So it took a while, but 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:10.299 I wasn't giving up. I finally had said to you 00:19:10.299 --> 00:19:13.259 that we had gotten so far up on that left side 00:19:13.259 --> 00:19:15.880 of the ravine that I had told you, if you don't 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.359 want to walk down the one side of the ravine, 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:22.160 wait for me. I'll go down and check out and see 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.809 if it brings me to where it was. that's when 00:19:26.809 --> 00:19:31.930 uh i walked up on what i thought was the rock 00:19:31.930 --> 00:19:38.470 pile but um to my surprise it was actually another 00:19:38.470 --> 00:19:43.250 rock pile yep exactly kind of kind of like really 00:19:43.250 --> 00:19:46.930 confused me but i had shouted to you that i found 00:19:46.930 --> 00:19:50.230 it and then you had come over to where i was 00:19:50.230 --> 00:19:54.109 yep Yeah, you were out of my view. And then you 00:19:54.109 --> 00:19:55.869 started yelling. You were like, it's over here. 00:19:55.930 --> 00:20:00.509 I found it. Follow my voice. So I got over to 00:20:00.509 --> 00:20:04.750 you. There was a very small, like remnants of 00:20:04.750 --> 00:20:08.269 a little, very narrow stream, like a couple of 00:20:08.269 --> 00:20:11.309 feet wide, maybe at the bottom of the ravine. 00:20:11.329 --> 00:20:14.549 And then not far from that was where that stone 00:20:14.549 --> 00:20:19.170 pile was. And I think at first we kind of thought 00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:22.940 that that was the one in your picture. Yeah, 00:20:22.940 --> 00:20:28.339 and I kind of brought the picture back up to 00:20:28.339 --> 00:20:32.619 try to look at it and put the trees into perspective 00:20:32.619 --> 00:20:37.660 of what the picture was showing us, and they 00:20:37.660 --> 00:20:41.920 didn't match. Right. So I had said to you, I 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.420 said, I don't think this is the one. I said, 00:20:45.460 --> 00:20:50.599 I think this is another one. Yep. And it turned 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:53.799 out it was another one. But this pile that we 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:58.039 found was pretty sizable. I think you measured 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:03.380 it out. It was about like, was it 18 by 16 feet 00:21:03.380 --> 00:21:07.140 or somewhere around there? So that's what was 00:21:07.140 --> 00:21:12.240 visible. Yeah, 18 by 16. You measured the farthest 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:16.799 rocks out from the sides of it across like in 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:20.779 a... northwest and a east -west kind of thing 00:21:20.779 --> 00:21:25.039 there to kind of like triangulate it like and 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:28.880 get a good measurement on how wide it was yeah 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:35.440 yep and um yeah it was a lot of you know um mostly 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:39.200 larger rocks um but they they varied in size 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:41.259 but they're mostly rocks that you know you'd 00:21:41.259 --> 00:21:43.430 take It would take two hands to lift them up. 00:21:43.509 --> 00:21:47.029 It was probably about three to four feet high. 00:21:47.869 --> 00:21:52.289 So it was, I mean, it's a substantial pile of 00:21:52.289 --> 00:21:55.970 rocks when you do actually come upon it. It doesn't, 00:21:55.970 --> 00:21:59.950 it looks completely out of place. It's not really 00:21:59.950 --> 00:22:06.730 level ground. On one side, you know, on the one 00:22:06.730 --> 00:22:09.930 side, the ravine is going up, going up the hill. 00:22:10.619 --> 00:22:12.660 and then yeah so that would be the right side 00:22:12.660 --> 00:22:15.220 that would be the right side of the ravine goes 00:22:15.220 --> 00:22:20.359 up from that uh south side of the rock pile yep 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:26.019 so um and then you know it's uh it was kind of 00:22:26.019 --> 00:22:28.400 strange because you were taking video and photos 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:31.000 of it and talking to me and i'm kind of looking 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:37.059 at you but i noticed like past you something 00:22:37.059 --> 00:22:41.279 up the ravine a little further away from us maybe 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:47.160 i don't know 50 30 50 yards away yup yeah and 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:52.240 i just kind of smiled and i said there's another 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.960 pile and you're like huh i'm like there's another 00:22:55.960 --> 00:23:00.319 pile behind you and uh i said turn around and 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:02.619 he turned around you really couldn't see it at 00:23:02.619 --> 00:23:05.289 first and that's had to kind of like show you 00:23:05.289 --> 00:23:07.529 i'm like right there i said i'll be right back 00:23:07.529 --> 00:23:12.029 i'm gonna walk over there and sure enough i have 00:23:12.029 --> 00:23:17.450 walked over there and i had seen where the picture 00:23:17.450 --> 00:23:20.990 started lining up with the trees in the background 00:23:20.990 --> 00:23:26.410 so it was like okay this is the real pile right 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:30.980 Yep. So, so yeah, so I finished taking pictures. 00:23:30.980 --> 00:23:34.579 The one of the first pile we found, the one thing 00:23:34.579 --> 00:23:37.940 that was odd about that first pile was that right 00:23:37.940 --> 00:23:41.200 at the, right at the top of it, it looked like 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.880 someone had fairly recently moved a rock out 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:51.519 of, out of position. So I guess, I mean, I would 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.569 guess that people. are down there i don't know 00:23:54.569 --> 00:23:57.349 why someone would go and remove the rock from 00:23:57.349 --> 00:24:01.609 that pile but this was um i mean it's not it's 00:24:01.609 --> 00:24:04.789 it's a fairly remote area but it's i guess it's 00:24:04.789 --> 00:24:08.369 not so remote and it's not so difficult to get 00:24:08.369 --> 00:24:12.730 to where yeah people might come upon it and um 00:24:12.730 --> 00:24:15.529 decide to move the rocks around for whatever 00:24:15.529 --> 00:24:18.690 reason um but yeah you went you went and then 00:24:18.690 --> 00:24:23.460 uh walked up and you you found the uh found the 00:24:23.460 --> 00:24:26.579 other rock pile and i followed you over there 00:24:26.579 --> 00:24:30.680 and that was the one from the photo so once again 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:37.079 we found a pretty significant like rock pile 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.799 and then but that wasn't even what we were looking 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:44.880 for and then we found this um found the second 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:46.779 one which was the original one that you were 00:24:46.779 --> 00:24:52.539 looking for in the first place I had actually 00:24:52.539 --> 00:24:58.559 brought up the pictures from our last visit and 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:03.319 kind of put them on the map as a pin, a picture 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.160 pin, I guess you would say it's called. When 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.099 I looked at them, they are directly north and 00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:14.880 south from each other, both those piles and that 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:19.519 other pile that we found the last trip. Right. 00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:26.940 Yeah, they all seem to be lined up in some kind 00:25:26.940 --> 00:25:29.440 of arrangement that was intentional. At least 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:34.079 that's what it looks like. And so, yeah, so the 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:36.859 second pile we found, which was the original 00:25:36.859 --> 00:25:40.240 one we were looking for, was a little bit bigger 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:44.099 than the other one, probably closer to 20 feet 00:25:44.099 --> 00:25:47.539 by 20 feet and a little bit taller, between four 00:25:47.539 --> 00:25:52.259 and five feet tall. And these are, like I said, 00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:56.819 these are just very prominent piles of rocks 00:25:56.819 --> 00:25:59.380 that you, that you come upon and they don't, 00:25:59.380 --> 00:26:02.759 they, they're just, they don't make sense being 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:07.420 right there. Um, if it was, if it, if it was 00:26:07.420 --> 00:26:10.160 a farmer that was moving it or, or if it was 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:13.700 a rock pile from farming or, or, you know, land 00:26:13.700 --> 00:26:16.660 moving or, or even from logging, if, if for some 00:26:16.660 --> 00:26:19.509 reason logging is done and they decide to. pile 00:26:19.509 --> 00:26:24.150 the rock somewhere it just didn't seem like a 00:26:24.150 --> 00:26:26.809 place that it just didn't seem like there was 00:26:26.809 --> 00:26:30.009 any reason for those piles of rocks to be there 00:26:30.009 --> 00:26:34.130 yeah and it's kind of strange that the whole 00:26:34.130 --> 00:26:40.950 area there has no other rocks right yep just 00:26:40.950 --> 00:26:44.289 like the uh just like the the boulders and the 00:26:44.289 --> 00:26:47.230 the pile that we found the other time but what 00:26:47.230 --> 00:26:53.410 was interesting to note is that both of the piles 00:26:53.410 --> 00:26:57.109 the first pile we found was right next to that 00:26:57.109 --> 00:26:59.730 little stream right at the bottom of the ravine 00:26:59.730 --> 00:27:04.109 and then the second pile which was the original 00:27:04.109 --> 00:27:08.089 pile we were looking for was also within a few 00:27:08.089 --> 00:27:11.769 feet of that little stream but it seemed like 00:27:11.769 --> 00:27:14.730 the stream and it was it's hard to see with everything 00:27:14.730 --> 00:27:19.039 overgrown but it looked to me like that little 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:23.339 stream almost ended right there next to that 00:27:23.339 --> 00:27:27.259 second rock pile. Right. I would have to agree 00:27:27.259 --> 00:27:30.460 with that. I think it kind of like there were 00:27:30.460 --> 00:27:35.859 no remnants of a stream beyond that second original 00:27:35.859 --> 00:27:40.779 pile. Yep. So it was kind of just dry earth. 00:27:43.140 --> 00:27:45.819 Yeah. And that's, that's where I, you know, and 00:27:45.819 --> 00:27:49.450 if I'm speculating, I'm thinking maybe at one 00:27:49.450 --> 00:27:54.349 time there was a active spring there. You do 00:27:54.349 --> 00:27:57.930 find that ancient earthworks and stone piles 00:27:57.930 --> 00:28:02.109 and stuff are found near springs coming from 00:28:02.109 --> 00:28:05.009 the ground. So it's possible that there was an 00:28:05.009 --> 00:28:08.130 actual spring that was feeding that little stream 00:28:08.130 --> 00:28:12.049 at one time. And that's what we were seeing. 00:28:12.130 --> 00:28:15.390 And maybe both of these piles were put, the one 00:28:15.390 --> 00:28:17.960 pile was put right at the... right at the source 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.000 of the spring and then the other one was placed 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.599 um whatever whatever 30 50 50 yards away something 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.059 like that right and you could tell that both 00:28:29.059 --> 00:28:33.099 of those piles were actually hand stacked there 00:28:33.099 --> 00:28:37.319 was no question about that yeah yeah absolutely 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.420 it didn't it didn't look um it i mean it looked 00:28:41.420 --> 00:28:44.059 old it looked like you know some of it had kind 00:28:44.059 --> 00:28:46.400 of you know maybe it settled maybe it had kind 00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:51.200 of kind of collapsed but um but it did look it 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:52.960 looked stacked it looked like it was put there 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:58.140 intentionally and again there's no other stones 00:28:58.140 --> 00:29:02.519 around the area um i i don't want to say 100 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.960 no stones like you run into one here and then 00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:09.019 you know right 100 feet away you might see one 00:29:09.019 --> 00:29:12.380 laying on the ground here so it's not completely 00:29:12.380 --> 00:29:15.880 devoid of rocks or stones but you don't but they're 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.500 not really prominent and then you just get to 00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:23.460 this one spot where all of the stones are right 00:29:23.460 --> 00:29:28.880 and it's kind of crazy that when you find a stone 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:33.440 up there by itself it's usually rather large 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.880 and it always seems to turn out to be some kind 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:41.079 of quartz like mixed matrix stone which is funny 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:48.500 yeah but yeah Yep. So, yeah, we were, you know, 00:29:48.500 --> 00:29:51.160 right away, you know, in a very short amount 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:54.059 of time, we show up and already we're getting 00:29:54.059 --> 00:29:59.079 surprised by Connecticut Hill once again, looking 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:04.339 for the one pile. I kind of felt really deflated 00:30:04.339 --> 00:30:07.279 because the way I felt was we were taking an 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.000 awful long time to find that original pile. And 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.410 when it just wasn't. coming right up to it i 00:30:14.410 --> 00:30:18.569 felt like we weren't gonna find it again yeah 00:30:18.569 --> 00:30:21.609 yeah we did get to a point where i i think i 00:30:21.609 --> 00:30:24.190 did say um you know maybe i should maybe i should 00:30:24.190 --> 00:30:26.490 say out loud well we might as well call it a 00:30:26.490 --> 00:30:29.250 day because when i did that last time we ended 00:30:29.250 --> 00:30:32.710 up finding something shortly after that right 00:30:32.710 --> 00:30:35.589 but uh yeah we did look around for a little while 00:30:35.589 --> 00:30:38.890 it didn't take us quite as anywhere near as long 00:30:38.890 --> 00:30:41.279 like last time i think it It took us at least 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.680 an hour or more to finally find something in 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:50.059 the woods, probably longer. It was actually surprising 00:30:50.059 --> 00:30:54.619 to me how far away those other mounds were from 00:30:54.619 --> 00:31:00.119 where we were the last time around. Yeah. Yeah, 00:31:00.180 --> 00:31:03.059 it's quite a ways away. Because when we left, 00:31:03.259 --> 00:31:05.440 we had to, I mean, I suppose we didn't have to, 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.740 but we ended up driving over to get closer to 00:31:07.740 --> 00:31:15.200 the other pile. Um, so, so yeah, so we, we found 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.680 these two piles. We, you know, I took some pictures 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:20.680 and some videos. I'll be putting those up on 00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:22.420 the, uh, on the website and I'll put them in 00:31:22.420 --> 00:31:25.480 the description for the podcast. And we got a, 00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:28.519 we got a good look. We got our fill there and 00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:35.319 decided to trek back out. back up the logging 00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:39.200 road that we came in on so we could go and look 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:44.599 for the other stone pile or stone complex, whatever 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:46.359 you want to call it, that we've seen last time. 00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:52.559 But on our way out, as we're walking, you noticed 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.720 something to the left of us, which was right. 00:31:57.299 --> 00:32:00.980 I was actually talking to you as we were leaving 00:32:00.980 --> 00:32:05.690 and looking over. To the left of you. So to my 00:32:05.690 --> 00:32:10.670 surprise, there it was about half halfway up 00:32:10.670 --> 00:32:12.849 the logging road from where we parked the car. 00:32:13.190 --> 00:32:17.329 Yet another stone mound in the background of 00:32:17.329 --> 00:32:19.869 you. And I said, you're not going to believe 00:32:19.869 --> 00:32:23.890 this, but turn around. And you said, my God, 00:32:24.130 --> 00:32:30.309 another one. Yep. And and yeah, and this one 00:32:30.309 --> 00:32:34.369 was. was um right across from that white plastic 00:32:34.369 --> 00:32:36.930 jug that we had been looking at earlier so when 00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:39.230 we when we came in we were so distracted looking 00:32:39.230 --> 00:32:41.069 at this white thing out in the middle of the 00:32:41.069 --> 00:32:43.710 woods we didn't even notice that there was a 00:32:43.710 --> 00:32:47.549 stone pile 30 feet behind us like right next 00:32:47.549 --> 00:32:50.789 to us we were walking walking by it's it wasn't 00:32:50.789 --> 00:32:53.309 that far off of the uh off of the logging road 00:32:53.309 --> 00:32:56.950 like maybe 30 feet or so like you can see it 00:32:56.950 --> 00:33:01.119 it just goes to show you how turned around you 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.740 can get up there and you know it it's kind of 00:33:05.740 --> 00:33:09.000 like some credence to the stories of people saying 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.880 they felt kind of like out of place or whatever 00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:15.960 they say they you know happens to them but it's 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.579 it was right there the whole time yeah And part 00:33:20.579 --> 00:33:22.240 of me, I mean, I think I said something at the 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.259 time. I kind of felt like the place was playing 00:33:25.259 --> 00:33:28.380 a trick on us. Like when we came in, it was like, 00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:30.160 okay, we're not going to let them see this pile 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:31.900 at first. We're going to make them walk right 00:33:31.900 --> 00:33:33.940 past it, and then they'll see it on their way 00:33:33.940 --> 00:33:40.539 out. For sure. But this pile was a little bit 00:33:40.539 --> 00:33:45.160 different because it had a lot more, it seemed 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.769 like, flat stones that were part of. you know 00:33:49.769 --> 00:33:52.329 that were part of the structure and the flat 00:33:52.329 --> 00:33:55.430 stones were stacked along the edges it looked 00:33:55.430 --> 00:33:59.829 like it was um i mean at least from what we could 00:33:59.829 --> 00:34:02.369 see maybe the other ones had the same kind of 00:34:02.369 --> 00:34:05.029 stacking of the stones underneath and we couldn't 00:34:05.029 --> 00:34:08.090 see it as well but this one along the edges you 00:34:08.090 --> 00:34:12.590 could see very very you know consciously placed 00:34:12.590 --> 00:34:17.349 stacks of of these um ladder stones you know 00:34:17.349 --> 00:34:20.630 maybe a couple feet wide um three four inches 00:34:20.630 --> 00:34:23.329 thick or varying in thickness that were just 00:34:23.329 --> 00:34:27.349 kind of stacked up uh around the around the outer 00:34:27.349 --> 00:34:33.269 edges of the stone pile so that that pile was 00:34:33.269 --> 00:34:36.409 actually like southwest of where the other piles 00:34:36.409 --> 00:34:43.949 were yep and uh i i don't think it was as big 00:34:43.949 --> 00:34:47.110 i think it was probably a little bit smaller 00:34:47.110 --> 00:34:51.309 the only yeah it was it was about the size of 00:34:51.309 --> 00:34:54.789 the other one i think it was only like 18 by 00:34:54.789 --> 00:34:58.590 19 or something similar to the other measurements 00:34:58.590 --> 00:35:04.329 and i've seen a lot of uh old house foundations 00:35:04.329 --> 00:35:08.690 and the way these stones were stacked you wouldn't 00:35:08.690 --> 00:35:13.010 put a house on it first of all it was round you 00:35:13.010 --> 00:35:18.590 know it wasn't square And then you had the mound. 00:35:18.670 --> 00:35:22.210 It was a mound. It wasn't like a flat foundation 00:35:22.210 --> 00:35:26.289 like most of those you would find in an old house 00:35:26.289 --> 00:35:28.929 foundation like the old schoolhouse I showed 00:35:28.929 --> 00:35:34.949 you. Right. But I could also see where if people 00:35:34.949 --> 00:35:37.449 had walked past it and they kind of glanced toward 00:35:37.449 --> 00:35:40.550 it and you see the corner of it and you see some 00:35:40.550 --> 00:35:43.889 of the stones are stacked up, it almost If you're 00:35:43.889 --> 00:35:45.789 just glancing at it, it would kind of look like 00:35:45.789 --> 00:35:50.510 an old foundation or an old, you know, stone 00:35:50.510 --> 00:35:53.670 fence or something like that because they were 00:35:53.670 --> 00:35:56.250 stacked. But then when you get close to it, no, 00:35:56.469 --> 00:36:01.250 it didn't look like a foundation at all. No. 00:36:01.550 --> 00:36:05.769 And what I found funny is I've been through that 00:36:05.769 --> 00:36:09.329 logging road. I can't tell you how many times 00:36:09.329 --> 00:36:15.219 and just never seen it. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost 00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:18.119 like it's hidden in plain sight. It's almost 00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:21.500 like, like I said, the spirit of the mountain 00:36:21.500 --> 00:36:24.300 or the spirit of the hills or whatever, just 00:36:24.300 --> 00:36:27.639 kind of kind of make your mind play tricks on 00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.320 you or sort of distract you from from noticing 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:33.480 it. But once once we noticed it was like, how 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:38.239 could we possibly miss this? And the only thing 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.900 I could think of is I really did a good job at. 00:36:42.789 --> 00:36:46.429 distracting our attention to that white uh object 00:36:46.429 --> 00:36:49.170 in the woods there the jug or whatever it was 00:36:49.170 --> 00:36:53.989 yeah yeah and yeah i mean if you are you know 00:36:53.989 --> 00:36:56.070 if you're if you're further away from these piles 00:36:56.070 --> 00:36:58.710 they're not super easy to see just because they 00:36:58.710 --> 00:37:01.050 they're they kind of camouflage they're you know 00:37:01.050 --> 00:37:02.969 they're overgrown there's trees around them so 00:37:02.969 --> 00:37:05.750 they're not super easy to see but this one compared 00:37:05.750 --> 00:37:09.130 to where the logging road was it was uh it was 00:37:09.130 --> 00:37:12.250 right there it was obvious yeah and the other 00:37:12.250 --> 00:37:15.550 thing i noticed is it wasn't as grown over as 00:37:15.550 --> 00:37:19.849 the other two had like ground cover growing on 00:37:19.849 --> 00:37:24.130 it you know yep but it did have a it had like 00:37:24.130 --> 00:37:26.090 were there some bees or hornets or something 00:37:26.090 --> 00:37:30.269 living in it oh yeah yeah it was a hornet for 00:37:30.269 --> 00:37:33.590 sure it was right on the top of it yeah which 00:37:33.590 --> 00:37:39.250 is which was peculiar too right um So, yeah. 00:37:39.309 --> 00:37:42.829 So now at this point, you know, we, we went there 00:37:42.829 --> 00:37:47.309 looking for one and we found another one. Then 00:37:47.309 --> 00:37:49.289 we found the one we're looking for. And then 00:37:49.289 --> 00:37:54.610 we found a third mound and that's the story could 00:37:54.610 --> 00:37:58.269 end there. Yeah. It's unreal. It's really unreal. 00:37:59.510 --> 00:38:05.050 It's yep. And it just, that place is just, there's 00:38:05.050 --> 00:38:07.469 just surprises every time, every time you go 00:38:07.469 --> 00:38:10.940 up there. And I'm sure, like, when we were walking 00:38:10.940 --> 00:38:13.639 up the logging road going back to the truck, 00:38:13.739 --> 00:38:17.539 we had talked about how they were logging up 00:38:17.539 --> 00:38:21.699 there. And I left a lot of the logs laying around. 00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:25.139 And now the shrubbery is growing through all 00:38:25.139 --> 00:38:27.659 that. So you can't even walk through some parts 00:38:27.659 --> 00:38:31.360 of the woods. So there's real no telling. There 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:36.079 could be a lot of these mounds hidden up there. 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.900 yeah for sure especially yeah especially in those 00:38:39.900 --> 00:38:42.500 in those areas that are grown because it's not 00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:45.599 trees it's just it's just you know vegetation 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.820 overgrowth yeah it's overgrowth but it's tall 00:38:49.820 --> 00:38:52.519 you know it's 10 15 feet tall or whatever and 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:56.539 and um just very thick like you i don't even 00:38:56.539 --> 00:38:58.639 know how you would move through there so yeah 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.750 there could be There could be all kinds of all 00:39:01.750 --> 00:39:05.070 kinds of other mounds or or structures or whatever 00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:10.789 in there. And you wouldn't even know. But so, 00:39:11.570 --> 00:39:15.650 yeah, it was it was it was just we were just 00:39:15.650 --> 00:39:18.750 it was just a morning full of surprises. And 00:39:18.750 --> 00:39:23.269 and so we we checked out the final that final 00:39:23.269 --> 00:39:26.929 pile. I got pictures of that and video of that 00:39:26.929 --> 00:39:32.219 that I'll put up and. Then we headed over to 00:39:32.219 --> 00:39:40.940 one of the mark trails where there's a trailhead. 00:39:41.139 --> 00:39:43.119 I don't want to tell people exactly where it 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.280 is, but there's a trailhead that we needed to 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:52.340 get to to go back and find the original stone 00:39:52.340 --> 00:39:56.460 works that we found the first time we went up 00:39:56.460 --> 00:40:02.409 there. And wouldn't you know it, the woods had 00:40:02.409 --> 00:40:06.030 yet another surprise and journey for us. Yeah. 00:40:06.849 --> 00:40:12.210 Made that difficult to find. Yes, for sure. So 00:40:12.210 --> 00:40:16.449 we got to the trailhead. We started on the trail. 00:40:16.869 --> 00:40:20.670 You know, I had kind of in my head like, okay, 00:40:20.710 --> 00:40:22.630 we're going to go up this way and we come around 00:40:22.630 --> 00:40:27.019 the bend here. That's where it's gonna be and 00:40:27.019 --> 00:40:30.360 I had and when we had the last time we were there 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.820 when we had When we had found the stone pile 00:40:33.820 --> 00:40:36.780 then left and we made our way back to the main 00:40:36.780 --> 00:40:41.440 trail I had kind of noticed I noticed there was 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:45.360 a like a downed tree there that had that the 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.460 state had come through and they cut off the ends 00:40:47.460 --> 00:40:51.019 of the branches of the tree cause they had been 00:40:51.019 --> 00:40:54.780 laying across the marked trail. So I was looking 00:40:54.780 --> 00:40:57.099 for that. That was kind of the, that was kind 00:40:57.099 --> 00:41:00.119 of the landmark we were keeping an eye out for. 00:41:01.380 --> 00:41:06.860 And yeah, we didn't, we, we, I don't know how 00:41:06.860 --> 00:41:12.260 it happened. I don't know how we got so off. 00:41:13.630 --> 00:41:15.889 trail of where we were going i mean i think at 00:41:15.889 --> 00:41:18.469 one point the trail branched off and maybe we 00:41:18.469 --> 00:41:21.429 took one branch when we should have taken the 00:41:21.429 --> 00:41:25.510 other do you remember at all yeah i mean when 00:41:25.510 --> 00:41:27.949 you think about where we were and where we were 00:41:27.949 --> 00:41:33.690 heading it just didn't um we had come the opposite 00:41:33.690 --> 00:41:37.349 ways the last time from the other parking area 00:41:37.349 --> 00:41:40.730 so this parking area brought us in a completely 00:41:40.730 --> 00:41:44.489 different way but in my mind it should have been 00:41:44.489 --> 00:41:48.489 shorter but it sure seemed a lot longer once 00:41:48.489 --> 00:41:53.289 we were out there yeah it was either that or 00:41:53.289 --> 00:41:56.590 we were tired from walking down the logging road 00:41:56.590 --> 00:41:59.630 and coming back out of that ravine is enough 00:41:59.630 --> 00:42:02.789 to you know you're talking that's the highest 00:42:02.789 --> 00:42:07.489 points in there so right you're walking 2200 00:42:07.489 --> 00:42:11.449 feet up and down mount mountain ravines and It'll 00:42:11.449 --> 00:42:14.510 tire you out, that's for sure. Yeah, that's true. 00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:17.769 And I definitely felt it for a couple of days 00:42:17.769 --> 00:42:21.150 afterward. But I agree, like when we went in, 00:42:21.230 --> 00:42:24.829 I knew it was going to take a while. It just 00:42:24.829 --> 00:42:28.769 seemed like it was taking way longer than I had 00:42:28.769 --> 00:42:32.789 anticipated. Just from looking at the trail maps 00:42:32.789 --> 00:42:35.170 and kind of seeing what the distance was and 00:42:35.170 --> 00:42:38.110 knowing, you know, how far it should have been. 00:42:38.349 --> 00:42:41.699 It just seemed like it was. taking way longer 00:42:41.699 --> 00:42:47.900 than it should have but eventually we got onto 00:42:47.900 --> 00:42:51.099 the trail that we needed to be on and saw that 00:42:51.099 --> 00:42:56.400 um and i found that we saw that uh down tree 00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.780 with the with the cut branches i was like okay 00:42:58.780 --> 00:43:00.900 here's the spot this is the spot so we need to 00:43:00.900 --> 00:43:04.820 just uh they take a left and head down the ravine 00:43:04.820 --> 00:43:07.820 and and look for the uh and look for the boulders 00:43:07.820 --> 00:43:13.400 um and the hill had other ideas and hit it quite 00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:18.840 well from us again yes once again we headed down 00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.400 and yeah we're going and we're okay i think it's 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.340 it's got to be over this way and it wasn't over 00:43:25.340 --> 00:43:29.880 this way and then we end up i don't know it was 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.360 just just walking around it i i knew we were 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:38.699 going to find it eventually um just because once 00:43:38.699 --> 00:43:43.679 you do see it um it's you know you you can see 00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:46.119 it from from a ways away and there was the one 00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.059 what i was hoping to see was the one boulder 00:43:49.059 --> 00:43:51.340 out of all those boulders there was that one 00:43:51.340 --> 00:43:53.719 that's just whitish color that probably has some 00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:57.480 quartz in it um and i was hoping to see that 00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:01.300 so big you know that rock is so big compared 00:44:01.300 --> 00:44:04.940 to most of the rocks in that area yeah you would 00:44:04.940 --> 00:44:08.500 think you could see that a mile away Yeah. But 00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:12.199 the, that hill hide stuff, it's kind of ridiculous. 00:44:12.619 --> 00:44:16.420 Yeah, it does. It does. It's hard to, you know, 00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:19.320 it's just, it's, it's a combination of the overgrowth 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.860 and then, you know, the unevenness of the, of 00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:24.980 the ravine. So there's like little hills and 00:44:24.980 --> 00:44:29.480 little, little, uh, you know, slopes and, um, 00:44:29.539 --> 00:44:34.639 but eventually, uh, I think we were off, we were 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:39.309 off trail. Like we're, We're going way off trail. 00:44:39.570 --> 00:44:42.389 Yeah. You know, we're not we're not sticking 00:44:42.389 --> 00:44:45.650 to a regular path through the woods or anything. 00:44:46.090 --> 00:44:50.070 You're traipsing through brush and down trees 00:44:50.070 --> 00:44:54.730 and all that. So it's kind of exhausting. Yeah, 00:44:54.849 --> 00:44:58.510 that's that's for sure. It ended up ultimately, 00:44:58.630 --> 00:45:00.369 I think we were out in the woods for about five 00:45:00.369 --> 00:45:02.130 hours, I think a little bit longer than five 00:45:02.130 --> 00:45:07.480 hours. So uh, so yeah, so finding this one like 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.300 finding the first three bounds It was it was 00:45:12.300 --> 00:45:14.900 challenging but it wasn't quite as it wasn't 00:45:14.900 --> 00:45:17.980 quite it didn't take as long as As it did to 00:45:17.980 --> 00:45:20.380 find these again, even though we had found these 00:45:20.380 --> 00:45:23.860 Even though we kind of knew where that we thought 00:45:23.860 --> 00:45:25.719 we kind of knew where they were but eventually 00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:30.650 we found the found the original I keep calling 00:45:30.650 --> 00:45:32.130 it the original. I don't know what else to call 00:45:32.130 --> 00:45:34.469 it. But we found the arrangements of stones, 00:45:34.570 --> 00:45:38.250 the stone pile, and the seven boulders lined 00:45:38.250 --> 00:45:44.469 up. So I got some. I was glad to finally get 00:45:44.469 --> 00:45:49.889 you to the original pile that I had in the picture. 00:45:50.849 --> 00:45:58.130 Yeah. Let alone find, what, three other items 00:45:58.130 --> 00:46:04.610 out there? besides yep so uh so yeah we found 00:46:04.610 --> 00:46:07.789 the we found the uh the seven boulder arrangement 00:46:07.789 --> 00:46:11.909 whatever um i was taking some more pictures and 00:46:11.909 --> 00:46:15.329 it's still there's still a lot of a lot of overgrowth 00:46:15.329 --> 00:46:19.150 and a lot of brush um at this time of year uh 00:46:19.150 --> 00:46:24.590 so but as i'm as i was taking a video of it doing 00:46:24.590 --> 00:46:27.590 a video walk around and and trying to get a better 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:33.360 some, some better records of the spot. And I 00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:36.099 was listening, I was watching the video and, 00:46:36.099 --> 00:46:38.400 and that's right near the end of the video. I 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.159 can hear your voice in the distance. You're like, 00:46:40.219 --> 00:46:42.679 Hey, I think I found some treasure over here 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:49.260 or something like that. And then, and I looked 00:46:49.260 --> 00:46:51.300 up and I'm looking in the direction where you 00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:55.760 were and there's like three more boulders in 00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:00.800 a line. That I had never seen the first time 00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.880 we were there. Yeah, it's so crazy. And then 00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:08.059 to find those old artifacts that were just laying 00:47:08.059 --> 00:47:12.320 on the top of the ground, like it looked almost 00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:17.119 like a jar lid that you would do like pickles 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.400 in or something. Yep. And then there was the 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:25.199 old ball mason jar that was cracked out. Right. 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:31.449 And didn't have a bottom. and also a shovel just 00:47:31.449 --> 00:47:35.849 a flat flat shovel like for shoveling coal or 00:47:35.849 --> 00:47:40.409 something but i mean you wouldn't expect that 00:47:40.409 --> 00:47:43.289 those things to be out there and some other rusty 00:47:43.289 --> 00:47:48.969 metal parts that were just laying there but it 00:47:48.969 --> 00:47:53.469 definitely someone was there way long time ago 00:47:53.469 --> 00:47:58.340 yeah yep and uh So yeah, there, there was the 00:47:58.340 --> 00:48:00.199 seven boulders and there was probably another, 00:48:00.340 --> 00:48:04.219 I think three or four, you know, prominent, not, 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.239 not as big as the big, big white one, but prominent 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.539 boulders lying in a straight line, more stone 00:48:10.539 --> 00:48:13.739 piles along with those boulders. And then, then 00:48:13.739 --> 00:48:18.219 the spot where you found, found the old artifacts. 00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:23.159 Now I did, when we were looking at the, at the 00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:26.489 ball jar, which was broken, I noticed that it 00:48:26.489 --> 00:48:29.610 had a seam on it. And I remembered that there 00:48:29.610 --> 00:48:34.769 was a certain timeframe when old glass jars and 00:48:34.769 --> 00:48:37.010 bottles, my grandfather used to collect bottles. 00:48:37.110 --> 00:48:39.489 He used to like dig up old bottles. And I think 00:48:39.489 --> 00:48:40.949 he was the one who told me that there was a, 00:48:40.969 --> 00:48:44.210 you can tell if a bottle or a jar is super old 00:48:44.210 --> 00:48:46.230 if there's no seam in it, because that meant 00:48:46.230 --> 00:48:49.190 it was blown back when glass was blown. And then 00:48:49.190 --> 00:48:51.190 the ones with the seam in it means a mold was 00:48:51.190 --> 00:48:55.059 used. broken jar that you found was made in a 00:48:55.059 --> 00:48:58.659 mold because there was a seam around it and i 00:48:58.659 --> 00:49:02.880 looked it up and ball jars started being made 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:09.780 in molds around 1895 so gosh so whenever those 00:49:09.780 --> 00:49:14.760 whenever those um yeah so so it had to be after 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:20.650 1895 whenever those uh whenever the At least 00:49:20.650 --> 00:49:25.130 the jar ended up being there, which kind of tracks 00:49:25.130 --> 00:49:27.630 with the history of Connecticut Hill, because 00:49:27.630 --> 00:49:30.730 they say that that was, you know, late 1800s, 00:49:30.730 --> 00:49:35.530 early 1900s was when there was a lot of farming 00:49:35.530 --> 00:49:39.070 or attempts at farming going on up there and 00:49:39.070 --> 00:49:43.829 a lot of logging. But, you know, the farming 00:49:43.829 --> 00:49:48.190 ended up being unsuccessful. So so the people 00:49:48.190 --> 00:49:51.409 kind of kind of. beat it out of there and uh 00:49:51.409 --> 00:49:54.989 never went back up but you know all the old um 00:49:54.989 --> 00:49:58.449 all the old foundations and that old schoolhouse 00:49:58.449 --> 00:50:02.070 those are all from that there's actually my neighbor 00:50:02.070 --> 00:50:04.829 had told me there's a old coal mine up there 00:50:04.829 --> 00:50:10.150 as well and uh he said it's still open so it 00:50:10.150 --> 00:50:12.829 would have been really cool to have him come 00:50:12.829 --> 00:50:15.769 out there to show us that quartz ledge and the 00:50:15.769 --> 00:50:19.579 coal mine yeah and uh some of the other things 00:50:19.579 --> 00:50:24.000 he might know but uh that that might be a third 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:30.699 sometime right right um so yeah so you've you 00:50:30.699 --> 00:50:36.139 found the ball jar uh the old shovel which you 00:50:36.139 --> 00:50:38.099 know i but it kind of makes me wonder like how 00:50:38.099 --> 00:50:41.519 long will a shovel last like in the elements 00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:44.380 out in the middle of nowhere before it completely 00:50:44.380 --> 00:50:48.079 rusts away and this was like half rusted so yeah 00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:51.800 and this this was the shovel that you know it 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.099 was kind of like it looked to me to be like a 00:50:55.099 --> 00:50:59.099 coal shovel that was just used for like shoveling 00:50:59.099 --> 00:51:01.880 coal because it didn't have a speed end on it 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.820 it was just yeah flat and then you got to figure 00:51:05.820 --> 00:51:09.780 when I saw it there was no wooden handle so that's 00:51:09.780 --> 00:51:13.920 long deteriorated and gone right it had some 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:17.440 age to it and it was quite It was quite thick. 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:20.099 I don't know if you realize that it was pretty 00:51:20.099 --> 00:51:25.599 thick. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It was, uh, and then 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.800 there was the, the lid that it looked like it 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.239 was a ceramic lid. That was, you know, like, 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.800 like you said, that was used to, you know, for 00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:38.769 an old crock or something like that. Yeah. That's 00:51:38.769 --> 00:51:41.909 what I had said when I saw the shovel and the 00:51:41.909 --> 00:51:44.489 ball jar and then that crock lit. I was like, 00:51:44.550 --> 00:51:47.050 I think I found a treasure, but there's no treasure 00:51:47.050 --> 00:51:53.449 left. Right. Right. But it does make me wonder, 00:51:53.550 --> 00:52:00.070 you know, to be completely honest, you know, 00:52:00.070 --> 00:52:03.670 seeing the rock piles and seeing those boulders 00:52:03.670 --> 00:52:08.030 all in a line, I can... I can see where someone 00:52:08.030 --> 00:52:14.110 would say that's just the remains of an old stone 00:52:14.110 --> 00:52:17.670 fence or an old stone pile. That there is a long, 00:52:17.849 --> 00:52:21.849 long time ago, you know, somebody purchased the 00:52:21.849 --> 00:52:26.710 land and tried to push all the rocks into one 00:52:26.710 --> 00:52:29.030 area so they could farm the rest of the land. 00:52:29.150 --> 00:52:32.730 And maybe that's why, you know, there's old... 00:52:33.309 --> 00:52:35.429 you know pieces of shovels and old jars there 00:52:35.429 --> 00:52:39.630 because it was inhabited at one time um so it 00:52:39.630 --> 00:52:43.389 did you know i i when i saw that there was you 00:52:43.389 --> 00:52:46.170 know signs of human habitation there i kind of 00:52:46.170 --> 00:52:50.829 say okay well you know maybe maybe uh maybe it's 00:52:50.829 --> 00:52:54.210 possible that it was just an old stone wall but 00:52:54.210 --> 00:52:59.809 i but i still have the question of why move boulders 00:52:59.809 --> 00:53:05.219 of that size into a line like that they're real 00:53:05.219 --> 00:53:09.320 huge i mean if you know normally when you see 00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:11.900 these stone walls that are out in the woods or 00:53:11.900 --> 00:53:16.019 something like that they're still stacked because 00:53:16.019 --> 00:53:18.880 no one's going to go back there and say well 00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:20.940 i don't want this stone fence here let's get 00:53:20.940 --> 00:53:24.300 it out of here it moves them they stay there 00:53:24.300 --> 00:53:29.099 forever you know yep so but there was really 00:53:29.769 --> 00:53:33.210 I mean, when you look at the way the rocks are 00:53:33.210 --> 00:53:37.369 and where they are, there was no semblance of 00:53:37.369 --> 00:53:43.110 a fence. No. So it's hard to say. No. And if 00:53:43.110 --> 00:53:46.650 it was, and again, if it was a fence, you know, 00:53:46.690 --> 00:53:51.250 that had collapsed, then, you know, then there 00:53:51.250 --> 00:53:53.429 would be, then it would, they would be collapsed 00:53:53.429 --> 00:53:56.449 in a long line. There would be stones all along. 00:53:57.340 --> 00:54:00.460 the whole path that are collapsed but it wasn't 00:54:00.460 --> 00:54:03.860 like that it was like a boulder and a stone pile 00:54:03.860 --> 00:54:07.380 around it and then an area where there's no stones 00:54:07.380 --> 00:54:11.900 or maybe one or two you know 15 20 feet and then 00:54:11.900 --> 00:54:14.079 there's another stone pile and another boulder 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:18.739 um so it didn't really it doesn't look like um 00:54:18.739 --> 00:54:22.320 it really doesn't look like a fence to me uh 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:25.500 yeah it's definitely an interesting spot for 00:54:25.500 --> 00:54:29.510 sure yeah it's it's there's a story there it's 00:54:29.510 --> 00:54:32.449 just it's hidden with the time of the hill you 00:54:32.449 --> 00:54:38.610 know yeah yeah for sure and it's it's uh yeah 00:54:38.610 --> 00:54:40.929 that's exactly what it is it's a it's a story 00:54:40.929 --> 00:54:44.670 it involves you know now that we saw those you 00:54:44.670 --> 00:54:46.889 know the signs that there were people there you 00:54:46.889 --> 00:54:48.829 know people were involved people were around 00:54:48.829 --> 00:54:51.690 this this stone structure at one time for whatever 00:54:51.690 --> 00:54:55.309 reason um i think that was kind of wasn't that 00:54:55.309 --> 00:54:59.369 kind of near an old stream not far from yeah 00:54:59.369 --> 00:55:03.530 well the stream is down into the ravine that's 00:55:03.530 --> 00:55:07.469 over that way yeah but it's it's not like it's 00:55:07.469 --> 00:55:10.670 in the ravine there you know what i mean it's 00:55:10.670 --> 00:55:15.349 kind of on top where we found that stuff right 00:55:15.349 --> 00:55:18.940 it's actually like a flat area which The way 00:55:18.940 --> 00:55:22.340 it is, it's kind of kooky because then it drops 00:55:22.340 --> 00:55:26.519 off and then goes down to where that creek is. 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.280 Okay. Yeah. I couldn't remember if there was 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:32.119 a little small feeder, like a little feeder creek 00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:35.159 or something next to it. You'll have to pinpoint 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:40.360 it and use that topo map you got from me to kind 00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:43.400 of pinpoint everything and lay it out on that 00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.670 map and kind of take another picture of it. yeah 00:55:46.670 --> 00:55:51.789 for sure um yeah and maybe if uh if you can send 00:55:51.789 --> 00:55:54.130 me the uh metadata i took a bunch of pictures 00:55:54.130 --> 00:55:56.630 i didn't get it the location wasn't working for 00:55:56.630 --> 00:56:00.130 me at that area either so um so bizarre that 00:56:00.130 --> 00:56:03.690 that's the same thing with how google earth was 00:56:03.690 --> 00:56:06.789 clouding it out like you couldn't get a good 00:56:06.789 --> 00:56:12.000 read on it yeah yeah And, and again, like you 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.280 said, like we, we, when we were looking for it, 00:56:14.300 --> 00:56:16.699 it was, you know, it was just so hard to find 00:56:16.699 --> 00:56:19.599 it and just hard to get there. And then even 00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.139 on our way out when we were like, okay, well, 00:56:22.139 --> 00:56:23.800 you know, we're done for the day. We just got 00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.219 to walk back up the hill. We get to the path 00:56:26.219 --> 00:56:29.760 and we walk, follow the path and we'll be right 00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.239 back to the truck. And it did not work that way. 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.579 No, it wound up being almost an hour long journey 00:56:36.579 --> 00:56:40.079 just to get out of there. Yeah. Which was, which 00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:44.900 was not what I had expected at all. No, no, it 00:56:44.900 --> 00:56:47.840 shouldn't. It shouldn't have. I mean, if we had 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.340 taken the normal, yeah, it shouldn't have taken 00:56:50.340 --> 00:56:53.280 more than 30 minutes probably to get out of there. 00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:58.659 Um, but we, uh, it almost seemed shorter to go 00:56:58.659 --> 00:57:01.699 back to the other place that we had parked with 00:57:01.699 --> 00:57:05.199 all the horse flies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It probably 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:08.760 would have probably would have been. But, um, 00:57:08.940 --> 00:57:12.239 yeah, man, that place, it just, it's really easy 00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.260 to get turned around up there. Um, I don't know 00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:18.199 if it's, you know, I don't know if it's some 00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:21.820 kind of, you know, weird, you know, rankster 00:57:21.820 --> 00:57:24.880 energy that is emanating from the mountain that 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:28.360 kind of makes people get lost. Or if it's just, 00:57:28.380 --> 00:57:31.300 just because it's woods and because it's, you 00:57:31.300 --> 00:57:33.860 know, tough terrain that it's easy to get lost. 00:57:37.820 --> 00:57:42.699 so many times where i think i know where we are 00:57:42.699 --> 00:57:45.059 it's like okay yeah this is i know what this 00:57:45.059 --> 00:57:48.679 is and so crazy right so we just have to go up 00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:52.820 here you get glimpses of memories of have i been 00:57:52.820 --> 00:57:57.400 in this spot before yeah yeah or yeah and then 00:57:57.400 --> 00:58:00.019 you go up a little further it's like no this 00:58:00.019 --> 00:58:03.659 isn't where i was or was it and it was just that's 00:58:03.659 --> 00:58:08.460 just what it was all day like um And the other 00:58:08.460 --> 00:58:11.480 thing was I had no idea that they had logged 00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:16.139 that whole other section of that trail. I didn't 00:58:16.139 --> 00:58:19.880 know that had happened. Oh, right. Yep. Where 00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.199 we had come into that clearing and I was like, 00:58:22.300 --> 00:58:26.079 well, that's a view that we haven't seen. Yeah. 00:58:26.380 --> 00:58:31.719 Yeah. Yeah, there is logging that still goes 00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:35.800 on up there all the time in different areas. 00:58:37.090 --> 00:58:42.409 But, um, but yeah, it was, uh, another, um, another 00:58:42.409 --> 00:58:46.170 successful, I guess you would call it adventure 00:58:46.170 --> 00:58:51.190 up on Connecticut Hill, um, finding way more 00:58:51.190 --> 00:58:54.349 than we thought we were going to find, um, lots 00:58:54.349 --> 00:58:59.030 of surprises around every corner and, uh, and 00:58:59.030 --> 00:59:01.789 yeah, anything, uh, anything to add to that? 00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:05.260 Yeah, it just kind of makes you stop and think, 00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:11.380 like, what else could be up there? Yeah. Yep. 00:59:11.699 --> 00:59:16.039 Oh, and what were you telling me about how there's 00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:20.320 that area where the hunters just seem to never 00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:26.320 go to hunt? Yeah, like the parking area, the 00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:31.079 road bisects. and then it goes around in a giant 00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:33.400 square and then there's another road that goes 00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:38.659 back out so for some reason all the time when 00:59:38.659 --> 00:59:42.820 people park there they always head north i've 00:59:42.820 --> 00:59:45.400 never seen hunters come out of the south side 00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:49.699 of that road ever yeah always go to the north 00:59:49.699 --> 00:59:53.380 side for whatever reason it is i mean i've even 00:59:53.380 --> 00:59:58.179 caught myself just not wanting to go south of 00:59:58.179 --> 01:00:01.199 that road that that we got on there and parked 01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:05.519 but it's it's everyone even my neighbor who's 01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:09.500 been here all his life he doesn't go that way 01:00:09.500 --> 01:00:16.179 either yeah so very very peculiar just something 01:00:16.179 --> 01:00:19.900 that's added to the mystery of that place yeah 01:00:19.900 --> 01:00:24.599 maybe uh this this deer hunting season i'll wind 01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.780 up walking south and see what else maybe i'd 01:00:27.780 --> 01:00:30.519 find something else Yeah, maybe you'll find the 01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:33.659 reason nobody wants to go there. I hope it's 01:00:33.659 --> 01:00:39.820 not a bad reason. Right. Yeah, that's just really 01:00:39.820 --> 01:00:43.840 weird that nobody, you know, I don't want to 01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:47.159 say nobody, nobody, but nobody seems to want 01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:50.119 to go there. Yeah, they just don't hunt that 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:53.099 side. And what's funny is if you think about 01:00:53.099 --> 01:00:56.599 it, there's a road, another road parallel to 01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:59.909 that one. And if you keep walking, you'll eventually 01:00:59.909 --> 01:01:03.949 come to that road if you ever got lost. Yeah. 01:01:04.030 --> 01:01:07.289 So it's actually safer to hunt that south side 01:01:07.289 --> 01:01:09.969 than the north because you saw what you're up 01:01:09.969 --> 01:01:13.309 against to the north. You got the mountain just 01:01:13.309 --> 01:01:17.030 goes straight up over there. Yeah. Yeah. It's 01:01:17.030 --> 01:01:19.409 a heck of a walk. And if you get tired or you 01:01:19.409 --> 01:01:22.730 have a, you know, some kind of health condition 01:01:22.730 --> 01:01:25.289 and you get in trouble, you're going to be in 01:01:25.289 --> 01:01:28.130 trouble. you know big trouble trying to get out 01:01:28.130 --> 01:01:32.250 of there oh yeah for sure for sure all right 01:01:32.250 --> 01:01:35.989 um i guess that covers it unless you have anything 01:01:35.989 --> 01:01:42.570 else no i don't no i think that's about it i 01:01:42.570 --> 01:01:46.530 think it was great that we found more than i 01:01:46.530 --> 01:01:49.590 expected i wanted to only show you one mound 01:01:49.590 --> 01:01:53.199 i thought and wound up being you know a lot more 01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:57.460 than that to my surprise yeah yeah to my surprise 01:01:57.460 --> 01:02:00.280 as well that place is just full of surprises 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:05.000 um yeah and uh hunting season's coming up so 01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.820 i'm i'm not gonna be out there wandering the 01:02:07.820 --> 01:02:11.579 woods anytime soon but um while you're out there 01:02:11.579 --> 01:02:14.519 i'm sure you'll be you'll be uh yeah i'll be 01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:17.340 keeping my eyes open keeping your eyes open for 01:02:17.340 --> 01:02:20.699 for uh anything strange that you wander across 01:02:20.699 --> 01:02:23.840 and, um, maybe someday in the future, who knows, 01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:26.239 we'll, we'll go and we'll find that, uh, that, 01:02:26.380 --> 01:02:31.320 uh, legendary quartz ledge and be able to tell 01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:36.019 that story too. But, uh, sounds great. All right, 01:02:36.019 --> 01:02:38.059 cool, Rick. Well, uh, well, thanks for doing 01:02:38.059 --> 01:02:41.619 this and, uh, yeah, thanks for doing this. You 01:02:41.619 --> 01:02:44.840 got it. I hope everybody enjoys it. Yeah, me 01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:49.550 too. Well, that's it for this time around. I 01:02:49.550 --> 01:02:51.429 hope you enjoyed it. Thanks so much for listening. 01:02:51.550 --> 01:02:54.309 And if you have any thoughts on any of the topics 01:02:54.309 --> 01:02:56.929 in this episode, please let me know. And remember 01:02:56.929 --> 01:02:59.170 to like and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts 01:02:59.170 --> 01:03:01.550 and get over to SenecaLakeMysteries .com and 01:03:01.550 --> 01:03:03.750 subscribe to the email list so you don't miss 01:03:03.750 --> 01:03:06.949 anything. A new podcast comes out every month 01:03:06.949 --> 01:03:08.849 on the sevens. I'll talk to you then.