WEBVTT 00:00:14.089 --> 00:00:17.230 Hey everybody, welcome to Seneca Lake Mysteries, 00:00:17.230 --> 00:00:20.050 the podcast where we explore the unusual, strange, 00:00:20.370 --> 00:00:23.230 and unexplained on New York's largest finger 00:00:23.230 --> 00:00:25.829 lake. Now for this episode, I had the opportunity 00:00:25.829 --> 00:00:28.769 to speak with a very special guest, and we get 00:00:28.769 --> 00:00:31.789 into some really thought -provoking, mind -bending, 00:00:31.789 --> 00:00:35.509 mystical stuff. But first, I have a couple other 00:00:35.509 --> 00:00:38.670 things I wanted to share with you guys. I'm recording 00:00:38.670 --> 00:00:42.109 this right now on July 6th, and earlier today... 00:00:42.590 --> 00:00:45.530 I had quite an adventure up on Connecticut Hill 00:00:45.530 --> 00:00:48.689 near the hamlet of Alpine, which is about seven 00:00:48.689 --> 00:00:52.030 to eight miles south of Watkins Glen. Now, the 00:00:52.030 --> 00:00:55.250 location is sometimes called the Alpine Portal 00:00:55.250 --> 00:00:58.490 because of the large number of reports of paranormal 00:00:58.490 --> 00:01:02.869 activity there, from ghosts to disembodied voices 00:01:02.869 --> 00:01:08.790 to orbs and UFOs to electronic or vehicle failures 00:01:08.790 --> 00:01:13.439 and even... some Bigfoot reports. Now I hadn't 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:16.239 planned to discuss Connecticut Hill on this podcast 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:19.540 initially due to it being a little bit further 00:01:19.540 --> 00:01:22.819 away from the lake and the area that I've been 00:01:22.819 --> 00:01:26.540 concentrating on but due to the frequent requests 00:01:26.540 --> 00:01:29.219 I'm getting from you all telling me to check 00:01:29.219 --> 00:01:32.459 it out and the fact that it is connected to Seneca 00:01:32.459 --> 00:01:35.730 Lake via the watershed. I decided to keep it 00:01:35.730 --> 00:01:38.569 on my radar and to do an episode on the Alpine 00:01:38.569 --> 00:01:42.109 Portal in the near future. Now, I don't want 00:01:42.109 --> 00:01:45.049 to give away the whole story of my visit to Connecticut 00:01:45.049 --> 00:01:47.150 Hill today, but I'll give you a little preview. 00:01:47.489 --> 00:01:50.849 So a few weeks back, I was contacted by a guy 00:01:50.849 --> 00:01:54.250 named Rick who lives in Alpine and heard episodes 00:01:54.250 --> 00:01:58.129 five and six of the podcast. which prompted him 00:01:58.129 --> 00:02:01.609 to email me. He's been hunting on Connecticut 00:02:01.609 --> 00:02:05.750 Hill for years and has a pretty intimate knowledge 00:02:05.750 --> 00:02:10.629 of the terrain in that area. He told me that 00:02:10.629 --> 00:02:14.129 he found something very intriguing and mysterious 00:02:14.129 --> 00:02:17.509 in the middle of the woods in an area that's 00:02:17.509 --> 00:02:21.469 somewhat difficult to traverse and a good distance 00:02:21.469 --> 00:02:25.210 from the established paths of the Finger Lakes 00:02:25.210 --> 00:02:29.099 Trail system. So Rick offered to bring me there 00:02:29.099 --> 00:02:32.139 and I immediately accepted. So I headed down 00:02:32.139 --> 00:02:34.520 to Alpine this morning, met up with Rick. We 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.099 made our way into the woods. And again, you'll 00:02:37.099 --> 00:02:39.120 hear the full story in a future episode. But 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:42.139 I will say that what we found was far more intriguing 00:02:42.139 --> 00:02:45.500 and mysterious than I had hoped for. Totally 00:02:45.500 --> 00:02:49.360 unexpected. Rick also filled me in on some other 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:52.439 stories about the place that were pretty crazy 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.780 too. So that's all I'm going to say for now. 00:02:55.389 --> 00:02:58.009 And I can't wait to tell you guys the whole story. 00:02:58.530 --> 00:03:01.310 Now, also, before we get to the guest, I wanted 00:03:01.310 --> 00:03:04.430 to give a shout out to a local business called 00:03:04.430 --> 00:03:08.349 Total Recall. Now, Total Recall is at 40 Castle 00:03:08.349 --> 00:03:11.449 Street in Geneva. And the owner, Cassie, has 00:03:11.449 --> 00:03:13.969 been a huge supporter of the podcast even before 00:03:13.969 --> 00:03:17.169 it was launched. You can find Seneca Lake Monster 00:03:17.169 --> 00:03:19.870 stickers in the store from Seneca Lake Mysteries, 00:03:19.930 --> 00:03:22.669 along with some small promotional cards for the 00:03:22.669 --> 00:03:26.180 podcast that she's been... handing out to everyone 00:03:26.180 --> 00:03:29.060 who comes in maybe whether they want it or not 00:03:29.060 --> 00:03:31.740 i'm not sure but she's uh she's out there championing 00:03:31.740 --> 00:03:34.639 the podcast and i really appreciate it now the 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:37.960 the shop itself the it's really cool front door 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:41.759 entrance has the following on the window it reads 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:45.479 geneva society for cryptid sightings and hauntings 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:49.060 now it's not an actual This isn't an actual organization, 00:03:49.419 --> 00:03:52.919 at least not yet. But when you walk in, you'll 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:55.979 enter what was designed to look like a paranormal 00:03:55.979 --> 00:03:59.219 office frozen in time. Now, I don't want to spoil 00:03:59.219 --> 00:04:02.159 too much, but the Seneca Lake Monster absolutely 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.960 has a presence in that space. But it gets even 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:08.219 a little weirder when you see the bookcase on 00:04:08.219 --> 00:04:11.740 the back wall actually slides to reveal the rest 00:04:11.740 --> 00:04:14.560 of the shop. And once you go into the shop, there's 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:18.699 a huge variety of... nostalgic and vintage quirky 00:04:18.699 --> 00:04:22.180 weird items from clothing to toys and beyond 00:04:22.180 --> 00:04:25.560 in the front part of the shop it'll take a while 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:27.220 to see everything and once you're done there 00:04:27.220 --> 00:04:30.420 you head back to the jungle room which is a hangout 00:04:30.420 --> 00:04:33.660 area with wild offbeat art and a jungle theme 00:04:33.660 --> 00:04:38.600 to it and if you keep moving you'll enter an 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.699 old school arcade with pinball and video games 00:04:41.699 --> 00:04:44.779 and you can play on unlimited games for one price 00:04:45.579 --> 00:04:48.100 Then next up, you go through another door and 00:04:48.100 --> 00:04:50.100 there's a board game room where you can dig into 00:04:50.100 --> 00:04:52.660 the huge collection of board games they have 00:04:52.660 --> 00:04:56.420 on the shelves there. And even the bathroom in 00:04:56.420 --> 00:04:59.899 this place was painstakingly decorated. No spoilers 00:04:59.899 --> 00:05:03.100 again, but you even got to see the bathroom when 00:05:03.100 --> 00:05:05.839 you get in there. So again, Total Recall is at 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:08.860 40 Castle Street in Geneva. And you can find 00:05:08.860 --> 00:05:14.060 them on Instagram at TotalRecall315. So if you're 00:05:14.060 --> 00:05:16.779 in Geneva, or you need a reason to go to Geneva, 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:20.540 make sure to stop in, look around at Total Recall 00:05:20.540 --> 00:05:23.779 and tell Cassie and or Josh that I sent you. 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:28.339 And finally, let me introduce my guest. A few 00:05:28.339 --> 00:05:31.079 weeks back after Soraya and I had talked about 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:34.279 ley lines and earth energies on episode six of 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:37.329 the podcast, I wanted to... refresh my memory 00:05:37.329 --> 00:05:40.509 on the topic about 25 years ago i had a strong 00:05:40.509 --> 00:05:44.170 interest in geomancy or earth magic but hadn't 00:05:44.170 --> 00:05:48.750 really studied it in in years since then now 00:05:48.750 --> 00:05:53.209 earth magic is described as the art of understanding 00:05:53.209 --> 00:05:56.629 interpreting and harnessing the earth's energy 00:05:56.629 --> 00:06:00.009 for transformation healing and spiritual growth 00:06:00.009 --> 00:06:03.709 including the use of maps to identify geographic 00:06:03.709 --> 00:06:08.019 features and patterns to gain insights into our 00:06:08.019 --> 00:06:11.160 connection to the planet. So I was looking for 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:14.620 info and I came across a website of a guy named 00:06:14.620 --> 00:06:18.439 Dan Shaw, who is also known as the Vortex Detective. 00:06:18.980 --> 00:06:21.879 So I spent some time reviewing the massive amount 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:24.740 of information on the site and I decided to buy 00:06:24.740 --> 00:06:28.600 a couple of Dan's e -books. So he replied, he 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.579 sent me the e -books, plus... I don't know if 00:06:31.579 --> 00:06:33.459 he wants me to tell you this, but plus other 00:06:33.459 --> 00:06:37.920 e -books that he's written on the topic and then 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.180 generously offered to be a guest on the podcast. 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.980 So, of course, I said yes, not only because I 00:06:43.980 --> 00:06:47.899 wanted to reacquaint myself with the mystical 00:06:47.899 --> 00:06:51.000 practice of visionary map reading, but I was 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.639 also curious to hear Dan's take on how Seneca 00:06:54.639 --> 00:07:00.120 Lake fits into this art or practice. I just mentioned 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:02.600 Dan's generosity, and I know I mentioned it during 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:04.699 our conversation that you'll hear in a second 00:07:04.699 --> 00:07:07.759 here as well. But I'll say again that from all 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:09.920 my interactions with him, he's been incredibly 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.759 kind, positive, and willing to share everything 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:17.180 he's learned over the last nearly 40 years with 00:07:17.180 --> 00:07:20.879 the art of earth magic. So when he says he responds 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.980 to every phone call and email, he means it. Geomancy 00:07:24.980 --> 00:07:28.199 is something that can be learned by anyone. with 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:30.379 an understanding of some of the basic principles 00:07:30.379 --> 00:07:35.040 and it's quite obvious that dan is not motivated 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.139 by profit like some people who specialize in 00:07:38.139 --> 00:07:41.720 esoteric or mystical practices now if you want 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:44.920 dan to do the work and create a custom map for 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.220 your area something that'll take him time to 00:07:47.220 --> 00:07:49.980 research and prepare there'd be a fee but if 00:07:49.980 --> 00:07:52.959 you're looking for everything you really everything 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:55.180 you need to know to start exploring earth magic 00:07:55.180 --> 00:07:58.980 and geomancy on your own it's all there for free 00:07:58.980 --> 00:08:02.600 on his website now the website is vortexmaps 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.060 .com so if you want that information it's right 00:08:06.060 --> 00:08:08.379 there to look for it and yeah if you have any 00:08:08.379 --> 00:08:11.540 any questions about the subject just ask dan 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:14.899 I'll give you a quick summary of Dan's credits 00:08:14.899 --> 00:08:17.759 as well. Dan Shaw has been a student of alchemy 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:21.319 since 1986 and began working with the science 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:27.120 behind earth magic, geomancy, in 1991. He researches, 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.939 appears on national media, authors books, leads 00:08:30.939 --> 00:08:34.179 tours, and does work for private clients. His 00:08:34.179 --> 00:08:37.120 TV and film appearances include Brad Meltzer's 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:40.440 Decoded, Devil's Triangle, Alaska, on the History 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:44.340 Channel. Mysteries of the National Parks Yosemite 00:08:44.340 --> 00:08:47.440 on the Travel Channel and the documentary Ancient 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:51.799 Tomorrow. Dan also consults for TV shows, including 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:55.960 NBC's The Blacklist. So thanks again for listening. 00:08:56.100 --> 00:08:59.399 And now let's get into the conversation with 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:07.779 the Vortex detective, Dan Shaw. All right, everyone, 00:09:07.899 --> 00:09:11.289 I'm here with. the vortex detective, Dan Shaw. 00:09:11.669 --> 00:09:14.289 This is, uh, we've exchanged some emails, but 00:09:14.289 --> 00:09:16.629 we, this is the first time we're actually talking 00:09:16.629 --> 00:09:19.570 to each other. So I'll be getting to know Dan 00:09:19.570 --> 00:09:23.470 and his work along with all of you. Um, Dan, 00:09:23.610 --> 00:09:25.610 thanks so much for doing the show and welcome 00:09:25.610 --> 00:09:28.429 to, uh, Seneca Lake mysteries. Thank you very 00:09:28.429 --> 00:09:33.830 much. Thank you. All right. So, um, so let's, 00:09:33.830 --> 00:09:36.370 let's go way back as, as far back as you want 00:09:36.370 --> 00:09:43.370 to go. geomancy earth magic um so i i want to 00:09:43.370 --> 00:09:46.009 know your your origin story like how did you 00:09:46.009 --> 00:09:49.769 first become interested in these subjects um 00:09:49.769 --> 00:09:53.350 and and how did this become your life's work 00:09:53.350 --> 00:09:57.230 sure but you said we only had 40 minutes to an 00:09:57.230 --> 00:10:06.899 hour uh in brief in brief i was invited to be 00:10:06.899 --> 00:10:10.039 part of a group in austin texas in about 1986 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:15.299 and that group was guided in part in large part 00:10:15.299 --> 00:10:20.299 by a channel descended master and so i was studying 00:10:20.299 --> 00:10:27.120 ascension back in 1986 and 1987 in austin texas 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:37.320 and so some four years later or so 1990, I got 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:44.100 introduced to a map showing the Grand Tetons 00:10:44.100 --> 00:10:47.340 as the center of this circle, vast circle of 00:10:47.340 --> 00:10:49.740 19 mountains and bodies of water, one of which 00:10:49.740 --> 00:10:53.179 included Mount Shasta. And I was in Mount Shasta 00:10:53.179 --> 00:10:55.700 at the time, and another point on that circle, 00:10:55.879 --> 00:11:00.139 Lake Tahoe. So you could pull out a map at the 00:11:00.139 --> 00:11:03.789 right size there and draw. that circle yourself 00:11:03.789 --> 00:11:08.610 knowing that put a compass of the type for drawing 00:11:08.610 --> 00:11:11.509 circles at the center of at the grand tetons 00:11:11.509 --> 00:11:14.210 and you can see that each one of those mountains 00:11:14.210 --> 00:11:17.669 and bodies of water forms a nearly perfect circle 00:11:17.669 --> 00:11:20.289 in nineteen points each one largest mountain 00:11:20.289 --> 00:11:25.830 body of water in its region and i saw that as 00:11:26.730 --> 00:11:30.450 the landscape itself, but also the map as a powerful 00:11:30.450 --> 00:11:38.289 alchemical tool. And it happened that Dorothy 00:11:38.289 --> 00:11:42.629 Leon was the person who had created this map. 00:11:42.990 --> 00:11:46.629 She'd included it in a book where she'd written 00:11:46.629 --> 00:11:48.950 it under a pen name. I didn't know her by that 00:11:48.950 --> 00:11:53.879 name, but through just a miraculous turn of events, 00:11:53.980 --> 00:11:58.299 somebody recommended Dorothy to me after I'd 00:11:58.299 --> 00:12:02.080 been on a pilgrimage based on her map. She contacted 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.500 me and asked me to publish a book she was writing. 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:11.059 I was not prepared to do that, but I asked if 00:12:11.059 --> 00:12:14.539 I could publish her map. And so I was off publishing 00:12:14.539 --> 00:12:18.220 not just Dorothy's wheel with 19 spokes around 00:12:18.220 --> 00:12:22.669 the Grand Tetons, but also another map which 00:12:22.669 --> 00:12:26.230 is of some renown, which is called the Becker 00:12:26.230 --> 00:12:29.649 -Hagens, or the Earth Star Globe, and that shows 00:12:29.649 --> 00:12:35.470 the so -called Earth Grid. That one's been around 00:12:35.470 --> 00:12:37.950 since the 80s and has been featured in a lot 00:12:37.950 --> 00:12:39.830 of books, and people are pretty well familiar 00:12:39.830 --> 00:12:42.850 with that, and I had the good fortune of being 00:12:42.850 --> 00:12:46.169 able to publish that at about the same time, 00:12:46.169 --> 00:12:50.179 the early 90s, I reprinted. And so I was off 00:12:50.179 --> 00:12:54.220 and running in my study of geomancy, earth magic. 00:12:55.259 --> 00:13:02.720 Okay. Yeah, that's, it prompts memories that 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.240 I have when I first started learning about the 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:09.240 subject. I don't have as specific a memory, but 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:14.539 I remember seeing maps and seeing, you know, 00:13:14.539 --> 00:13:19.720 geometric patterns overlaid on. maps of the earth 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:23.120 and how they how they fit i was like what how 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.820 what what does this even mean like how is this 00:13:25.820 --> 00:13:29.840 this can't be this can't be just a coincidence 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:35.879 and this can't be just wishful thinking um yeah 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:39.840 it's it's uh I'm just so excited. I got so many 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.120 questions for you. Well, you just jumped right 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:45.899 to the very end, which is what is the meaning? 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.750 Right. Wait till I tell you about your location 00:13:50.750 --> 00:13:52.889 there and how that just fits onto the planetary 00:13:52.889 --> 00:13:56.750 grid so beautifully. I mean, let's put off what 00:13:56.750 --> 00:14:02.509 does it mean for just a second. Okay. And let's 00:14:02.509 --> 00:14:04.470 say this. Everything in creation seems to have 00:14:04.470 --> 00:14:07.529 a geometry to it, and some visionaries can recognize 00:14:07.529 --> 00:14:10.210 that geometry at the scale of the entire planet. 00:14:10.429 --> 00:14:13.509 It does appear that at the geometric points, 00:14:13.629 --> 00:14:17.169 the points which form the... so -called platonic 00:14:17.169 --> 00:14:20.470 solids, the geometric solids, the icosahedron, 00:14:20.549 --> 00:14:26.049 dodecahedron, tetrahedron, octahedron, the cube, 00:14:26.250 --> 00:14:29.690 that these platonic solids, when you inscribe 00:14:29.690 --> 00:14:33.169 them in the earth, that the geometric points 00:14:33.169 --> 00:14:35.990 turn out to have certain geologic significance 00:14:35.990 --> 00:14:39.669 or they're marked with ancient monuments, ancient 00:14:39.669 --> 00:14:44.480 prehistoric civilizations. And so there's this 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:49.000 bizarre geometry that occurs on a planetary scale, 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:52.899 and it's, I mean, it's bizarre, but it's natural. 00:14:53.019 --> 00:14:57.080 And we see it in the location of the Hawaiian 00:14:57.080 --> 00:15:02.759 Islands, that right at the 19 .47, which is the 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:07.200 point where a tetrahedron would, a point would, 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:10.820 touch the surface of the globe in an ideal model 00:15:10.820 --> 00:15:14.539 so we can inscribe these geometries into the 00:15:14.539 --> 00:15:18.039 earth and it turns out to be a fantastically 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.860 useful model and it goes back to this author 00:15:22.860 --> 00:15:25.139 named ivan sanderson and through some russian 00:15:25.139 --> 00:15:28.529 researchers and then popularized by Bill Becker 00:15:28.529 --> 00:15:31.730 and Beth Hagans, and they published this world 00:15:31.730 --> 00:15:34.870 map that folds up into a globe and shows this 00:15:34.870 --> 00:15:37.730 geometry of the icosahedron, the dodecahedron. 00:15:37.830 --> 00:15:39.909 So that's kind of the best -known model. Those 00:15:39.909 --> 00:15:43.909 two geometric shapes are dual solids. They nest 00:15:43.909 --> 00:15:46.230 inside each other. One has faces where the other 00:15:46.230 --> 00:15:50.149 has points. So the icosahedron there, it's got 00:15:50.149 --> 00:15:54.330 those triangular sides, and the dodecahedron, 00:15:54.429 --> 00:15:57.879 it's got... uh the pentagonal sides and these 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:01.700 just nest perfectly and turns out your location 00:16:01.700 --> 00:16:05.399 there there's this line that's going straight 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:10.460 through between seneca lake and cayuga lake if 00:16:10.460 --> 00:16:15.840 i've got that right and it's uh it's just right 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.860 dead i mean it is on that line it's within miles 00:16:18.860 --> 00:16:22.000 of this global grid line and when i say within 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:29.509 miles these these global patterns. When we're 00:16:29.509 --> 00:16:31.029 talking about lines, we're not talking about 00:16:31.029 --> 00:16:33.309 like a pencil thin line on a map. We're talking 00:16:33.309 --> 00:16:38.269 about this undulating spiral, perhaps, of energy. 00:16:38.690 --> 00:16:43.730 The geometric lines, it's a good model. It's 00:16:43.730 --> 00:16:46.970 useful, and it's very useful, but you want to 00:16:46.970 --> 00:16:50.929 think of these lines these edges of these geometric 00:16:50.929 --> 00:16:54.710 solids as like living conscious divine things 00:16:54.710 --> 00:16:57.289 and they're expanding and contracting and responding 00:16:57.289 --> 00:17:02.409 to our presence and so your location there bam 00:17:02.409 --> 00:17:05.089 it's it's just right on one of these global grid 00:17:05.089 --> 00:17:11.289 lines so as i look at just take a i just found 00:17:11.289 --> 00:17:17.069 out about you a few days ago and so I didn't 00:17:17.069 --> 00:17:19.029 have a lot of time to look at your location there, 00:17:19.069 --> 00:17:21.069 but bam, there it is, right on that global grid 00:17:21.069 --> 00:17:24.269 line. Now, this segment of line that we're talking 00:17:24.269 --> 00:17:27.829 about, it's 2 ,200 miles long. And I'm looking 00:17:27.829 --> 00:17:32.329 at your location, I'm thinking, by God, that's 00:17:32.329 --> 00:17:36.150 just like exactly halfway between the two global 00:17:36.150 --> 00:17:39.029 grid points. And I go and measure it out in Google 00:17:39.029 --> 00:17:42.269 Earth, and sure enough, it's 1 ,100 miles in 00:17:42.269 --> 00:17:45.779 either direction. And as I mentioned, there's 00:17:45.779 --> 00:17:49.500 these, so you're like smack the center there, 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:54.000 like you could say at a harmonic node, right 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.119 between the, on that line that passes between 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:00.119 the two finger lakes there. And then, then furthermore, 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.460 there's these other geometric solids that nest 00:18:03.460 --> 00:18:06.660 inside as well. The cube, there's a number of 00:18:06.660 --> 00:18:09.559 ways of nesting the cube inside of the sphere, 00:18:09.779 --> 00:18:14.650 the earth. And, So some of those cube lines, 00:18:14.890 --> 00:18:19.329 turns out, those cross at that precise point 00:18:19.329 --> 00:18:22.930 there. And then there's the icosahedron. And 00:18:22.930 --> 00:18:26.009 that one, there's three ways you can nest that 00:18:26.009 --> 00:18:29.069 one. And those lines cross right there as well. 00:18:29.109 --> 00:18:34.430 So you get this, like, what do I want to say, 00:18:34.549 --> 00:18:37.769 sunburst of energy lines coming out right between 00:18:37.769 --> 00:18:43.799 those two finger legs. Oh, wow. Okay, yeah, that's 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:49.400 good stuff. I thought we were going to get to 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:53.420 that at the end, but we're getting to it soon 00:18:53.420 --> 00:19:00.500 enough. Let me see here. So when you talk about 00:19:00.500 --> 00:19:04.759 these different, so there's different grids that 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:10.940 have been mapped that people have created. you 00:19:10.940 --> 00:19:12.799 know, ley line maps or whatever you want to call 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:16.920 them around the world. Many, many of them. Yes. 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:22.619 So, so is, is it a, I'm just curious about how 00:19:22.619 --> 00:19:27.599 so many different people and there's so many 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:31.319 different people who've, who've looked at the 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:33.980 same maps and they, and they come up with these, 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:36.339 you know, different, these different beautiful. 00:19:38.450 --> 00:19:46.269 geometries and designs and patterns. How does 00:19:46.269 --> 00:19:53.829 that work? Well, a couple of different levels 00:19:53.829 --> 00:19:57.329 for sure. And one is that, as I said, everything 00:19:57.329 --> 00:20:02.410 in creation has a geometry to it. Shape has energy 00:20:02.410 --> 00:20:05.490 and energy has shape. You've heard of pyramid 00:20:05.490 --> 00:20:10.190 power. Yeah. So shape has energy. And there's 00:20:10.190 --> 00:20:13.069 also a wonderful book called Shape Power. But 00:20:13.069 --> 00:20:16.809 energy also has shape. So we're recognizing this 00:20:16.809 --> 00:20:19.430 at this planetary scale. And we're saying, OK, 00:20:19.549 --> 00:20:22.230 well, there's this. We can recognize these what 00:20:22.230 --> 00:20:25.190 we'll call vortex markers at these certain geometric 00:20:25.190 --> 00:20:27.849 points around the globe, the Bermuda Triangle 00:20:27.849 --> 00:20:32.390 and et cetera. And Seneca. Lake, apparently. 00:20:32.650 --> 00:20:36.430 And so I don't pretend to understand everything 00:20:36.430 --> 00:20:39.710 about vortexes. I can't shake the mystery out 00:20:39.710 --> 00:20:43.650 of it, so to speak. But I take a very geophysical 00:20:43.650 --> 00:20:46.970 approach to the subject. And so I start with 00:20:46.970 --> 00:20:49.309 what I think of as being the Occam's razor, the 00:20:49.309 --> 00:20:53.430 simplest explanation, which is the electromagnetism. 00:20:53.529 --> 00:20:56.869 And so I take a very geophysical approach. And 00:20:56.869 --> 00:20:59.569 other researchers will all approach the field 00:20:59.569 --> 00:21:02.539 from... different angles but i like to think 00:21:02.539 --> 00:21:05.460 that what i'm doing is the science behind earth 00:21:05.460 --> 00:21:08.599 magic so it does turn out that electromagnetism 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:12.980 is a very rich field to mine for clues to how 00:21:12.980 --> 00:21:16.720 places might affect us and i'm i'm in the field 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:19.799 because i'm interested in the alchemy and the 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:22.319 personal and planetary ascension and using these 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:24.880 earth energies as a way of transforming ourselves 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:28.880 our consciousness and our physiology so the idea 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:31.160 is that there's no separation between ourselves 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:34.549 and this energy ocean in which we swim and as 00:21:34.549 --> 00:21:37.569 we move through it and and through time through 00:21:37.569 --> 00:21:41.150 the cycles of time that we're awash in these 00:21:41.150 --> 00:21:44.150 electromagnetic energies for better for worse 00:21:44.150 --> 00:21:46.809 but that we can be aware of them and we can maybe 00:21:46.809 --> 00:21:49.609 mitigate certain negative natural and man -made 00:21:49.609 --> 00:21:52.779 energies and then we can take advantage of those 00:21:52.779 --> 00:21:55.059 things as well for our own physical healing, 00:21:55.220 --> 00:21:58.180 our psychic opening, and for harmonizing the 00:21:58.180 --> 00:22:01.259 planet. So now we've jumped to the end and what 00:22:01.259 --> 00:22:05.819 it's meaning. And it's hopefully to understand 00:22:05.819 --> 00:22:08.839 how the universe is put together so that we can 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:13.079 actually use it to our benefit, so we can use 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.480 it towards our ascension and our perfection. 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:21.470 And so there's this connection, I believe. i 00:22:21.470 --> 00:22:24.109 can i believe i think i can support the premise 00:22:24.109 --> 00:22:30.150 that the places make us feel things on a physical 00:22:30.150 --> 00:22:33.349 level and on an energetic level and there are 00:22:33.349 --> 00:22:37.509 places that contribute to and enhance our paranormal 00:22:37.509 --> 00:22:43.269 abilities and our paranormal experiences might 00:22:43.269 --> 00:22:45.670 cluster around these areas and that's your whole 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:48.380 your whole premise there. So I think I would 00:22:48.380 --> 00:22:51.519 a hundred percent support your, your thesis there 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:54.160 that there's something about your place and it's 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:57.599 maybe, maybe it's 80 % electromagnetic or maybe 00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:00.680 it's 20 % electromagnetic because there's all 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.200 these other elements of, you know, all the way 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.819 down the spectrum of energies or up the spectrum 00:23:06.819 --> 00:23:10.059 of energies to consciousness and intention and 00:23:10.059 --> 00:23:15.240 magic. Right. Yep. Um, and yeah, just to, um, 00:23:16.109 --> 00:23:19.369 To step back a little bit, you mentioned the 00:23:19.369 --> 00:23:22.849 word vortex. Now, the word vortex in popular 00:23:22.849 --> 00:23:28.069 culture conjures images of a portal to another 00:23:28.069 --> 00:23:30.990 dimension or a place where paranormal events 00:23:30.990 --> 00:23:36.069 are common. Can you take us through the basics 00:23:36.069 --> 00:23:42.109 of what a vortex is? Sure. Well, I use the term 00:23:42.109 --> 00:23:45.599 in a pretty particular way. We've talked about 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:50.700 these global energy patterns, and you know that 00:23:50.700 --> 00:23:52.980 there's almost an infinite number of different 00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:55.940 energy patterns, as many as there are researchers, 00:23:56.140 --> 00:24:03.539 more certainly. And so that where we on the global 00:24:03.539 --> 00:24:06.660 scale, we're picturing these rings of energy 00:24:06.660 --> 00:24:09.880 like equators, great circles of energy that. 00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:13.589 wrap the earth like violin strings, like a ball 00:24:13.589 --> 00:24:17.309 of twine that are vibrating at a certain frequency, 00:24:17.529 --> 00:24:20.230 and those interact and create different types 00:24:20.230 --> 00:24:24.829 of energies. And so, just in kind of loose parlance, 00:24:24.910 --> 00:24:27.089 you'd say that a vortex is where these energy 00:24:27.089 --> 00:24:31.710 lines cross. What happens when you drop two pebbles 00:24:31.710 --> 00:24:33.910 in a pond and there's these expanding ripples 00:24:33.910 --> 00:24:36.569 is that where those ripples interact, there's 00:24:36.569 --> 00:24:39.009 a kind of an interference. And there's actually 00:24:39.009 --> 00:24:41.849 two kinds of interference. There's constructive 00:24:41.849 --> 00:24:44.910 and destructive interference where these energies 00:24:44.910 --> 00:24:47.630 come together. And so that gives you actually 00:24:47.630 --> 00:24:50.769 three different kinds of patterns there. You 00:24:50.769 --> 00:24:53.910 get the null zone, the zero, and then you get 00:24:53.910 --> 00:24:58.180 the positive. number and the negative number 00:24:58.180 --> 00:25:00.460 depending on how those waves are interacting 00:25:00.460 --> 00:25:04.460 so that's uh the acoustic model turns out to 00:25:04.460 --> 00:25:07.619 be a really useful model for understanding how 00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:11.220 the energies of place may be affecting us there's 00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:13.720 acoustic energy certainly and there's seismic 00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:16.440 energies earthquake energies and such and then 00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.160 there's the electrical energies in the atmosphere 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:23.460 and according to our elevation so from my standpoint 00:25:23.460 --> 00:25:26.779 i'm just looking at every possible contributor 00:25:26.779 --> 00:25:29.960 to the electromagnetic field in which we swim 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.240 and also all those other elements that could 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.720 potentially contribute to what we've described 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:39.980 as you know supporting paranormal experience 00:25:39.980 --> 00:25:46.259 okay yeah um it's all very mind -bending stuff 00:25:46.259 --> 00:25:55.579 um so uh so these these places well first So 00:25:55.579 --> 00:26:00.059 vortexes in, you know, in your, from, from your 00:26:00.059 --> 00:26:03.940 standpoint, are there, you know, I would imagine 00:26:03.940 --> 00:26:06.819 that there are different types of them. There 00:26:06.819 --> 00:26:08.759 are different levels. Like there might be one 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.579 place that's, that has, you know, a certain level 00:26:11.579 --> 00:26:13.920 of energies and then other places where it's, 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:19.470 where it's much more powerful. is is that is 00:26:19.470 --> 00:26:24.130 that accurate sure there's many different nuances 00:26:24.130 --> 00:26:26.529 in the kinds of energies that you're going to 00:26:26.529 --> 00:26:30.009 experience as you move around mostly the surface 00:26:30.009 --> 00:26:33.569 but also you might go into a cave or you know 00:26:33.569 --> 00:26:36.390 chasm or something like that so as you as you're 00:26:36.390 --> 00:26:40.059 moving around You're swimming in this sea, this 00:26:40.059 --> 00:26:43.200 churning sea of electromagnetism. Again, to kind 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:46.000 of oversimplify, you're exposing yourself. Your 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:49.500 cells are all operating on these very minute 00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:52.839 electrical differentials and such. So you're 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.480 exposing your physiology and your consciousness 00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.359 to these different energies, both as you move 00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:01.930 around and over these. time cycles and there's 00:27:01.930 --> 00:27:04.009 every reason to believe that humans actually 00:27:04.009 --> 00:27:07.869 do have the potential for magnetic sense because 00:27:07.869 --> 00:27:10.990 we've got magnetite in our brain every cell of 00:27:10.990 --> 00:27:13.480 our brain in our large a larger concentration 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:16.799 in our sinuses so like other species we could 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.420 potentially have this magnetic sense and not 00:27:20.420 --> 00:27:22.859 just be like oh that's north but actually be 00:27:22.859 --> 00:27:27.000 subtly and profoundly influenced by these these 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.339 energies all around us so the premise then is 00:27:30.339 --> 00:27:33.500 that at certain points maybe it's geometric points 00:27:33.500 --> 00:27:37.500 again oversimplifying, but at certain points 00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:41.940 that we are sensitive, we feel these energies, 00:27:42.019 --> 00:27:45.160 whether it's a summit or whether it's maybe an 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:49.480 alignment of points or a point in a geometric 00:27:50.190 --> 00:27:52.710 pattern maybe an equilateral triangle or something 00:27:52.710 --> 00:27:56.809 we we may have an experience and it may be uh 00:27:56.809 --> 00:27:59.269 chills you know or the hair standing up on the 00:27:59.269 --> 00:28:01.589 back of your neck or you may experience like 00:28:01.589 --> 00:28:04.549 a little electrical charge or change in temperature 00:28:04.549 --> 00:28:07.829 i think it's different for everyone but we can 00:28:07.829 --> 00:28:11.410 become more aware that these energies may be 00:28:11.410 --> 00:28:16.960 coming from the place itself it may be some spirit 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:21.500 or ghost or some other source but one plausible 00:28:21.500 --> 00:28:24.960 explanation is that we're actually feeling an 00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.779 energy from the place and so we can attune ourselves 00:28:27.779 --> 00:28:32.579 to that and through dowsing and other means learn 00:28:32.579 --> 00:28:35.619 to be more sensitive to these energies and then 00:28:35.619 --> 00:28:39.299 to manipulate them and that might be like through 00:28:39.299 --> 00:28:41.960 feng shui type of work or it might be through 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:46.079 more like building monuments and placing stones 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:51.420 and that kind of thing sure um and and yeah and 00:28:51.420 --> 00:28:56.380 in these places i mean i'm curious about um in 00:28:56.380 --> 00:28:59.220 a in a lot of these places you'll find you know 00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:02.859 whether it's you know pyramids or stone piles 00:29:02.859 --> 00:29:05.539 and everything in between you'll find ancient 00:29:05.539 --> 00:29:11.200 uh remnants of of civilizations and people who 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.940 seem to want to mark very important places on 00:29:15.940 --> 00:29:24.440 the earth. But also, you'll often see, I mean, 00:29:24.460 --> 00:29:27.519 Washington, D .C. is the perfect example. I mean, 00:29:27.539 --> 00:29:31.519 that's just one giant. um, occult complex. I 00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.740 mean, with the founding fathers of our country, 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.440 we're very, we're very, very, might even say 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.220 obsessed with, with, um, with these, these, these 00:29:41.220 --> 00:29:44.339 energies and, and, and sacred geometry and all 00:29:44.339 --> 00:29:49.400 of this. Um, do you, do you, do you think that 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.660 are the, you know, so let's say there's a, there's 00:29:52.660 --> 00:29:54.940 a place and there's a old church that was built 00:29:54.940 --> 00:29:57.740 there. Are the, were these, do you think these 00:29:57.740 --> 00:30:03.029 places were built By people who understood, who 00:30:03.029 --> 00:30:06.630 really had a deep understanding of of these energies 00:30:06.630 --> 00:30:09.650 and how they interact and what they how they 00:30:09.650 --> 00:30:13.109 affect us. And they chose to put these places 00:30:13.109 --> 00:30:16.609 in these put these structures in these places. 00:30:16.630 --> 00:30:21.369 Or is it or is it also maybe a subconscious thing 00:30:21.369 --> 00:30:23.650 where they just kind of felt like, oh, this is 00:30:23.650 --> 00:30:27.500 this is the place to put this. I think you have 00:30:27.500 --> 00:30:30.500 to see to the proposition that there's these 00:30:30.500 --> 00:30:33.619 highly advanced ancient civilizations and that 00:30:33.619 --> 00:30:35.839 they were advanced not only technologically, 00:30:35.980 --> 00:30:40.299 but also in these, you might call today, what 00:30:40.299 --> 00:30:45.640 we think of as esoteric arts and the geomancy 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.960 or the earth magic that the masons are using 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.880 and their placement of monuments and the proportions 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.450 and angles and all these things. you have to 00:30:56.450 --> 00:31:00.630 it's demonstrable by the ancient monuments that 00:31:00.630 --> 00:31:02.690 they were well aware of all these things and 00:31:02.690 --> 00:31:06.130 the speed of light and the function of the pi 00:31:06.130 --> 00:31:08.950 ratio and all these things are embedded in these 00:31:08.950 --> 00:31:12.130 ancient monuments so I think that argument has 00:31:12.130 --> 00:31:16.640 already been decided So the idea is that these 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.019 ancient monuments, not only were they placed 00:31:19.019 --> 00:31:21.519 at energetic locations, but they were built with 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.440 energetic materials and built with an energetic 00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:28.819 geometry and built with ceremony. And that they 00:31:28.819 --> 00:31:33.299 were built to manipulate, at least manipulate 00:31:33.299 --> 00:31:36.440 the energies of the place, if not also the energies 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:39.400 of the people and consciousness around them. 00:31:40.129 --> 00:31:43.809 So hopefully for better, but for better or worse. 00:31:44.829 --> 00:31:51.950 Sure, sure. Which kind of reminds me of when 00:31:51.950 --> 00:31:55.150 you're talking about for worse, there's a place 00:31:55.150 --> 00:31:59.690 here in between Seneca Lake and Cayuga Lake, 00:32:00.069 --> 00:32:04.730 formerly known as the Seneca Army Depot. And 00:32:04.730 --> 00:32:11.329 that was built. The building was completed like 00:32:11.329 --> 00:32:16.069 weeks before World War II began. World War II 00:32:16.069 --> 00:32:20.609 was on the horizon, so it was decided that there 00:32:20.609 --> 00:32:25.910 needed to be these weapons storage facilities 00:32:25.910 --> 00:32:30.410 in the four corners of the continental U .S. 00:32:30.410 --> 00:32:33.750 And in this corner, it ended up being right there 00:32:33.750 --> 00:32:37.359 between Seneca Lake and Cayuga Lake. There were 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:41.000 150 farm families that were displaced. The government 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.420 found this area, 11 ,000 acres, and it was perfect 00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:52.160 for their needs because there were two railroad 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.220 lines running through the area. But also they 00:32:55.220 --> 00:33:01.660 chose it because there was stale bedrock underneath 00:33:01.660 --> 00:33:05.000 the ground. In some places, you know, within 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.660 eight inches of... of the surface of the topsoil 00:33:08.660 --> 00:33:12.619 and they when they put in these big concrete 00:33:12.619 --> 00:33:15.579 igloos to store the weapons the the idea was 00:33:15.579 --> 00:33:18.779 if there were accidental explosions of these 00:33:18.779 --> 00:33:23.079 weapons they would they would the the bedrock 00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.099 underneath would prevent the uh would prevent 00:33:27.099 --> 00:33:29.079 the would would make the explosion go straight 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.720 up rather than side to side and explode more 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.740 of the of the weapons but i've always so that 00:33:35.740 --> 00:33:39.079 the seneca army depot ended up from it was open 00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.339 right before world war ii it closed right after 00:33:42.339 --> 00:33:45.960 the first gulf war it supplied they supplied 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:50.019 weapons for every single u .s military action 00:33:50.019 --> 00:33:54.220 around the world for all of those decades Um, 00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:57.180 it was, they had one of the, one of the main 00:33:57.180 --> 00:33:59.880 nuclear weapons storage facilities was also built 00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:04.420 there in the late fifties. Um, so it was, it 00:34:04.420 --> 00:34:07.519 was a place, I mean, for the people who live 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:12.380 around here, it, it's, it can be a little complicated 00:34:12.380 --> 00:34:14.300 as far as people's feelings about it because 00:34:14.300 --> 00:34:17.880 it was a big part of the community. a lot of 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.320 people worked there the non -commissioned officers 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.719 and and you know civilian employees it was huge 00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.380 for the local economy and it was an important 00:34:26.380 --> 00:34:30.460 part of people's lives at the same time this 00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:34.739 is you know it was this this factory for you 00:34:34.739 --> 00:34:38.820 know war and and destruction and and suffering 00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:42.739 around the world for for decades and some people 00:34:42.739 --> 00:34:46.760 say that maybe the majority of the weapons and 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.360 supplies whether it's vehicles uniforms everything 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:54.079 came through seneca army depot and now it's of 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:59.119 course closed um but it also has a a population 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:05.539 of white deer in 1949 uh an officer on on the 00:35:05.539 --> 00:35:09.460 property saw these a male and a female pure white 00:35:09.460 --> 00:35:14.289 fur Whitetail deer and the commanding officer 00:35:14.289 --> 00:35:18.949 told everyone that no one was allowed to kill 00:35:18.949 --> 00:35:21.809 these deer. So this population of these beautiful 00:35:21.809 --> 00:35:25.469 white deer ended up living within this fenced 00:35:25.469 --> 00:35:29.369 in area during the time the Army Depot was in 00:35:29.369 --> 00:35:34.110 use. And then after it closed, they still are 00:35:34.110 --> 00:35:44.269 there. private entities who have a museum there. 00:35:44.349 --> 00:35:46.250 So it's a museum to the army Depot, but it's 00:35:46.250 --> 00:35:48.590 also, they also have white deer tours. You can 00:35:48.590 --> 00:35:53.789 go there and see the white deer. And yeah, so 00:35:53.789 --> 00:35:58.590 it's a, it's a really unique place with a, with 00:35:58.590 --> 00:36:02.030 a remarkable history. And I'm curious what you 00:36:02.030 --> 00:36:06.289 think about like this is this, I mean, I see 00:36:06.289 --> 00:36:10.110 this as an example of Whether consciously or 00:36:10.110 --> 00:36:14.550 subconsciously, this location being chosen and 00:36:14.550 --> 00:36:19.429 maybe the energy of this area being manipulated 00:36:19.429 --> 00:36:26.289 and used in a way that was ultimately very destructive. 00:36:27.070 --> 00:36:31.449 Well, definitely researchers have made the argument 00:36:31.449 --> 00:36:36.309 that parts of the Earth grid have been militarized. 00:36:36.940 --> 00:36:41.099 You see a lot of correspondence between nuclear 00:36:41.099 --> 00:36:44.980 materials, government installations and grid 00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:48.340 points. And another what I would call a vortex 00:36:48.340 --> 00:36:53.300 marker is unusual plant and animal species. So 00:36:53.300 --> 00:36:56.780 there's this there's this flow chart that goes 00:36:56.780 --> 00:37:01.900 from where you have unique or rather where you 00:37:01.900 --> 00:37:06.260 have ore and mineral deposits. That will affect 00:37:06.260 --> 00:37:10.260 the electromagnetic field. You'll have unique 00:37:10.260 --> 00:37:13.280 soil types, and that will lead to unique plant 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.719 and animal species. So you often find at these 00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:22.500 energetic points that the landscape is lush, 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:26.099 the landscape has been preserved as some kind 00:37:26.099 --> 00:37:30.480 of a park, or sometimes that there's military 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:37.440 government bases. nuclear materials storage and 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:43.159 processing and such so and there's an author 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:47.039 named Bruce Cathy who's a New Zealand pilot who 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:53.559 wrote a number of books on this thesis that there's 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.820 an intimate and essential relationship between 00:37:56.820 --> 00:38:04.079 an earth grid of his uh, the, and nuclear materials 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.320 and nuclear detonation. So, so I'm not the first 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:11.880 person to suggest that connection. Sure. Yep. 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.119 Yeah. And, uh, yeah, like I mentioned the it's, 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.820 it's now called deer Haven park and it's, it 00:38:17.820 --> 00:38:20.199 is also, I mean, to me, it's a, it's a, it's 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.519 kind of a beautiful transition is that now it's, 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.480 it is, it's a wildlife preserve, you know, they're, 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.619 they're doing a lot. There's still areas that 00:38:29.619 --> 00:38:33.920 are, that are contaminated um from from the depot 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.159 being there for so long they also had live ammunition 00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:42.219 uh training areas there uh but it's it's uh it's 00:38:42.219 --> 00:38:44.820 it's a it's a really beautiful and interesting 00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:47.960 turnaround to to where what this place is today 00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.739 and also i mean also there is something very 00:38:52.739 --> 00:38:57.860 very uh uh uh primal i don't know how to say 00:38:57.860 --> 00:39:00.730 it when you see one of these deer, I mean, they're, 00:39:00.730 --> 00:39:03.550 it's not like a zoo, you know, they, they take 00:39:03.550 --> 00:39:05.469 you for tours through there and you might see 00:39:05.469 --> 00:39:08.210 one, you might not. But when you, you see one 00:39:08.210 --> 00:39:10.449 of these, one of these deer, even though they're, 00:39:10.449 --> 00:39:12.489 you know, they're captive, even though it's not 00:39:12.489 --> 00:39:14.550 a, even though you kind of expect that you're 00:39:14.550 --> 00:39:16.630 going to see them, at least for me, every time 00:39:16.630 --> 00:39:18.510 I see him, I kind of have to catch my breath. 00:39:18.590 --> 00:39:21.949 It's just something, something so gorgeous, um, 00:39:22.150 --> 00:39:25.550 about these. It's, uh, and then of course, you 00:39:25.550 --> 00:39:27.889 know, there's, there's so many, so many, uh, 00:39:28.329 --> 00:39:31.530 traditions and stories and folklore around the 00:39:31.530 --> 00:39:34.309 world, spiritual traditions for all different 00:39:34.309 --> 00:39:40.110 kinds of people and through time who have white 00:39:40.110 --> 00:39:44.309 deer as a sacred animal or a sacred symbol. Yeah, 00:39:44.309 --> 00:39:52.250 sure. The plants and the animals are sensitive 00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:55.550 to parts of the electromagnetic spectrum that 00:39:55.550 --> 00:39:59.460 we cannot perceive. watching the plants and animals 00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:02.860 is a great way to actually observe the earth 00:40:02.860 --> 00:40:06.500 energies and the unseen energies and we often 00:40:06.500 --> 00:40:09.880 find again not just unique plant animal species 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:12.400 but that the plants are growing in particularly 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:17.420 sometimes lush and sometimes unusual ways so 00:40:17.420 --> 00:40:21.239 you might find trees that are spiraling in strange 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.500 ways or they're they're branching out more nodes 00:40:24.500 --> 00:40:29.460 than they usually do or It could be animals building 00:40:29.460 --> 00:40:33.099 nests in unusual ways. And you can actually see 00:40:33.099 --> 00:40:36.659 the game trails on the ground following the energy 00:40:36.659 --> 00:40:45.199 lines. Oh, right, right. Yeah, so what was I 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:52.159 going to say? Oh, so let's go. Well, actually, 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.159 before we go back to that, did you happen to 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.809 see the. And this is, I don't know how this is 00:40:58.809 --> 00:41:01.409 connected, but did you happen to see the photo 00:41:01.409 --> 00:41:07.150 I posted on my website of these indentations 00:41:07.150 --> 00:41:09.329 that were found in the bottom of Seneca Lake? 00:41:09.710 --> 00:41:12.550 I did see those. I didn't know what to make of 00:41:12.550 --> 00:41:15.309 them at all. That was going to be my questions. 00:41:15.349 --> 00:41:19.329 What do you make of those? Because the researchers 00:41:19.329 --> 00:41:23.280 have no idea. It's really fascinating to me that 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.039 there's so many of them, and many of them look 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.760 almost perfectly round. One of my listeners suggested 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.800 maybe they were plunge pools. Maybe at one time 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.000 there were waterfalls, like multiple waterfalls 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:39.699 falling into the area and created a bunch of 00:41:39.699 --> 00:41:43.179 plunge pools. But I don't know. I know that you 00:41:43.179 --> 00:41:50.829 have at least some background in... I have a 00:41:50.829 --> 00:41:54.710 degree in geography, so a little background in 00:41:54.710 --> 00:41:57.750 geology and just not nearly enough time to look 00:41:57.750 --> 00:42:00.869 at the Seneca Lakes. But from my standpoint, 00:42:01.170 --> 00:42:05.670 from how energies vary from place to place, anywhere 00:42:05.670 --> 00:42:09.210 where you've had glaciation is going to present 00:42:09.210 --> 00:42:12.190 all kinds of interesting energetic features. 00:42:12.469 --> 00:42:18.880 So the Finger Lakes themselves, as you... as 00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:22.559 you traverse let's say you get on a boat and 00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:24.900 you go across the lake and you know you have 00:42:24.900 --> 00:42:26.940 a sense of how that feels in your body when you 00:42:26.940 --> 00:42:30.000 get out on that lake and you you know it's just 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.940 like everything changes when you're out on that 00:42:32.940 --> 00:42:35.119 body of water and how much of that is attributable 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:38.360 to just the pure electromagnetic field of being 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.079 out on the water uh i don't know you be the judge 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.400 uh you know we're all sensitive in different 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:48.179 ways but uh then you've got uh the glaciers have 00:42:48.179 --> 00:42:51.139 basically scoured to bedrock as you said a little 00:42:51.139 --> 00:42:53.780 bit earlier and you can actually get maps of 00:42:53.780 --> 00:42:57.079 depth to bedrock and from my standpoint that's 00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:59.980 always pretty interesting sometimes that bedrock 00:42:59.980 --> 00:43:02.699 is actually got electrical currents going through 00:43:02.699 --> 00:43:07.400 it they may have piezoelectric quartz a quartz 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.679 crystal is piezoelectric so you may have and 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:14.219 when soil is wet and has minerals in it metals 00:43:14.219 --> 00:43:17.880 you've got electrical currents electrical conductivity 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:21.840 and resistivity in the soil and then you're in 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.280 a certain proximity to it you may be in the second 00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.480 story of a building you may be wearing insulative 00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:30.099 soles on your shoes or you may be in direct contact 00:43:30.099 --> 00:43:35.380 with the electromagnetism of bedrock and uh you 00:43:35.380 --> 00:43:38.300 know into a certain sense it's like quartz crystal 00:43:38.300 --> 00:43:41.039 in a certain sense it's like vibrating at a certain 00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.900 frequency it's carrying like seismic waves or 00:43:43.900 --> 00:43:46.820 whatever it might be so that proximity to bedrock 00:43:46.820 --> 00:43:49.539 is always pretty interesting to me as well and 00:43:49.539 --> 00:43:50.920 then you've got all the changes in elevation 00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:53.679 you've got the features that are left behind 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.619 as the glacier you know glacier is going to be 00:43:56.619 --> 00:43:58.679 carrying material it's going to be doing the 00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:03.219 scouring you know the uh the you've got those 00:44:03.219 --> 00:44:06.980 waterfalls and the the the elevational differences 00:44:06.980 --> 00:44:09.059 and all the electrical changes that come with 00:44:09.059 --> 00:44:13.159 that so you know you've got a really uh rich 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.980 rich place and each of those different kinds 00:44:15.980 --> 00:44:19.219 of places are going to stimulate i would say 00:44:19.219 --> 00:44:21.340 different parts of your energy body different 00:44:21.340 --> 00:44:24.780 chakras let's say and waterfalls in particular 00:44:24.780 --> 00:44:27.960 a real rich place full of frequencies and and 00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.300 you can change your positioning and orientation 00:44:30.300 --> 00:44:34.760 to the sound and get different kinds of fundamental 00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:38.440 notes in the sound and different frequencies 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.719 in each ear. So that's a beautiful thing. So 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:47.039 you could hypothetically now create an itinerary 00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:49.719 where you travel around your location to different 00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.380 kinds of places, points, promontories, summits, 00:44:52.420 --> 00:45:00.119 to activate all your chakras. Okay. Hmm. And 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:05.099 that, um, yeah, I mean, I've, I've been traveling 00:45:05.099 --> 00:45:07.860 out to different spots all around the lake for 00:45:07.860 --> 00:45:12.219 years. Um, but never with any real purpose like 00:45:12.219 --> 00:45:14.900 that, like any, there was no real gold, except 00:45:14.900 --> 00:45:16.940 I want to see what this feels like. I want to 00:45:16.940 --> 00:45:20.159 go here and, and, you know, just enjoy the space. 00:45:20.659 --> 00:45:25.320 Um, and also just, just to go back a little bit, 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.679 that area where all those, uh, where all those 00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.300 pockmarks are in the bottom of the lake. That's 00:45:30.300 --> 00:45:38.099 in the southern third of the lake, which is an 00:45:38.099 --> 00:45:41.239 area on the eastern shore of the lake is known 00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.599 as the Banana Belt. Now, Seneca Lake itself has 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:48.659 a microclimate around it. Um, due to the, due 00:45:48.659 --> 00:45:50.980 to the, to the warmth of the water, it never 00:45:50.980 --> 00:45:53.619 freezes. It's the lake is frozen over, I think 00:45:53.619 --> 00:45:56.619 three or four times ever in history. Um, it's 00:45:56.619 --> 00:45:59.159 always, it's always moving very dynamic under 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:03.280 underwater, uh, movement all the time. Uh, it 00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:07.039 stays, I think at a steady 36 degrees year round. 00:46:07.460 --> 00:46:09.940 Uh, so there's a microclimate around the lake, 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.639 which makes it a, you know, a world -class. area 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.099 for for growing grapes and there's all kinds 00:46:16.099 --> 00:46:20.300 of wineries here but the banana belt is it has 00:46:20.300 --> 00:46:23.840 a little bit extra it's because of its location 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:29.519 um and because it's it's on the eastern side 00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:32.079 of the lake so the so the when the sun is setting 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.420 when it's coming down in the western sky when 00:46:35.420 --> 00:46:38.920 it when it hits that shore on the east lower 00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:41.659 part of the lake it'll raise the temperature 00:46:41.659 --> 00:46:45.980 in that area five to ten degrees which is which 00:46:45.980 --> 00:46:50.000 is really uh it's almost like i mean you're you 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.760 can experience different weather depending on 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:56.280 where you are around seneca lake i also just 00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:58.800 found it interesting that you know this banana 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:03.440 belt area there's also a lot of um you know, 00:47:03.460 --> 00:47:07.300 weird stories, UFO sightings, orb sightings. 00:47:07.340 --> 00:47:10.239 Seneca Lake also has tons and tons of orb sightings. 00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:12.940 I could probably do a whole website and a book 00:47:12.940 --> 00:47:16.739 just on the orb sightings in this area alone. 00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:21.400 Yeah, yeah. But, you know, this microclimate 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:25.940 also can kind of, you know, put you in a different 00:47:25.940 --> 00:47:30.480 sort of state of mind as well. Well, it does. 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:35.420 If you think all the way through, all the contributors 00:47:35.420 --> 00:47:39.639 to the electromagnetic field that we're experiencing, 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.500 that we're immersed in, there's electrical ions 00:47:42.500 --> 00:47:45.639 in the air. And around those waterfalls, you're 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.000 going to find an abundance of the negatively 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.559 charged ions, which make you feel better. And 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:57.820 in some places, you'll experience more preponderance 00:47:57.820 --> 00:48:00.260 of these positively charged ions in the air. 00:48:00.380 --> 00:48:03.719 And there's research to show that that definitely 00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.760 contributes to people's ill health. So these 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:11.280 subtle elements in our environment, whether they're 00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:14.119 electromagnetic or something else, these are 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:18.260 subtly and profoundly influencing us. So as we 00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:21.420 move around our environment, we can be more aware, 00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.500 more conscious, more intentional. We can use 00:48:25.500 --> 00:48:30.940 these elements in our ceremonies. And we can 00:48:30.940 --> 00:48:36.260 use these places as places where we're intentionally 00:48:36.260 --> 00:48:42.119 perhaps practicing our psychic abilities. Right, 00:48:42.139 --> 00:48:49.820 right. Yeah, so to go back to what you were talking 00:48:49.820 --> 00:48:54.769 about, the... This energy line that runs between 00:48:54.769 --> 00:48:59.670 the two lakes. Can you go into a little bit more 00:48:59.670 --> 00:49:04.449 detail on that? What are the other places? Is 00:49:04.449 --> 00:49:08.150 this line connected to other places? Well, sure. 00:49:08.210 --> 00:49:11.929 It goes down to the Bermuda Triangle and up to... 00:49:12.619 --> 00:49:15.460 the native territory up there. And what I'd like 00:49:15.460 --> 00:49:18.760 to do is to invite your listeners to send me 00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:22.059 an email. My email address, I will answer every 00:49:22.059 --> 00:49:26.980 email. When your listeners will email me at energy, 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:34.159 E -N -E -R -G -Y at vortexmaps .com. energy at 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.300 vortexmaps .com. I'll send them a free e -book 00:49:37.300 --> 00:49:40.679 and I'll include some of these maps that we've 00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:43.139 describing so that you can get a better sense 00:49:43.139 --> 00:49:47.579 of how those platonic solids inscribe into the 00:49:47.579 --> 00:49:51.699 Earth. And when you go to vortexmaps .com, you 00:49:51.699 --> 00:49:55.079 can see that Earth star globe and the Earth star 00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:59.980 North America I've been describing. And if you 00:49:59.980 --> 00:50:05.400 can picture... the Earth like a soccer ball sewn 00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:11.219 from these geometric patterns. You do find that 00:50:11.219 --> 00:50:14.780 the deep sea trenches tend to correspond with 00:50:14.780 --> 00:50:18.900 this geometry. The coastlines of continents tend 00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:23.079 to correspond with this global geometry. But 00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:26.400 that's not the only system of energy lines, those 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:31.300 global lines. There are many more local type 00:50:31.769 --> 00:50:34.409 patterns of energy, which you may be able to 00:50:34.409 --> 00:50:37.130 recognize just in your own landscape. You've 00:50:37.130 --> 00:50:40.110 done a fair amount of mapping, and if you use 00:50:40.110 --> 00:50:44.130 your maps as a kind of a mandala, as a geometric 00:50:44.130 --> 00:50:48.710 pattern to meditate on, to gaze at, you may be 00:50:48.710 --> 00:50:54.389 even able to remote view into your map. That's 00:50:54.389 --> 00:50:57.090 one way of using your map as an alchemical tool. 00:50:57.769 --> 00:51:01.269 Some people are learning to douse their maps, 00:51:01.429 --> 00:51:04.730 dousing maps as though they were on the landscape 00:51:04.730 --> 00:51:08.050 itself. And that's another alchemical, magical 00:51:08.050 --> 00:51:15.869 way you can use maps. Yeah, okay. Yeah, just 00:51:15.869 --> 00:51:19.269 a couple of things. Yeah, I encourage all my 00:51:19.269 --> 00:51:22.750 listeners to go to vortexmaps .com. What really 00:51:22.750 --> 00:51:24.829 struck me, Dan, when I went to the... when I 00:51:24.829 --> 00:51:27.130 went to your website is you have your phone number 00:51:27.130 --> 00:51:29.610 on there and you're just inviting everyone in 00:51:29.610 --> 00:51:31.670 the world. Like call me, give me a call, ask 00:51:31.670 --> 00:51:33.909 me any questions. You're very, very forthcoming 00:51:33.909 --> 00:51:37.650 and, and so, and so enthusiastic about, about, 00:51:37.730 --> 00:51:41.949 uh, about sharing what you know. And, um, yeah, 00:51:42.050 --> 00:51:44.269 that was, it's, it's, it's very refreshing. You 00:51:44.269 --> 00:51:46.010 weren't asking there, you know, there's, you 00:51:46.010 --> 00:51:48.940 know, you're. you know, you've got some mercantile 00:51:48.940 --> 00:51:51.159 interest. You've got a few books for sale, but 00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.840 there's no, it's just, Hey, you got any questions? 00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:56.519 Give me a call. And I, I find that, uh, I find 00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:59.760 that really, um, really refreshing and inspiring. 00:52:00.619 --> 00:52:03.880 Absolutely. Same offer for, for your listeners 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:07.320 there. If go to vortex maps .com, my phone numbers 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.460 at the top, give me a call. I will, I'll respond 00:52:10.460 --> 00:52:13.179 to all calls. So, uh, there's nothing I'd rather 00:52:13.179 --> 00:52:18.639 do than talk about these, uh, the science behind 00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:22.880 earth magic let's say and just to give my elevator 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:26.000 pitch if you'll allow me absolutely i like to 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:29.480 say there's an infinite amount of energy available 00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:34.460 everywhere all the time for our physical healing 00:52:34.460 --> 00:52:37.860 for our psychic opening and for harmonizing the 00:52:37.860 --> 00:52:50.010 planet okay yep i Um, I love that. Um, and just 00:52:50.010 --> 00:52:53.030 so my listeners know as well, I, I did, I sent 00:52:53.030 --> 00:52:55.389 you a link to a, to a Google map that I've been 00:52:55.389 --> 00:52:57.610 putting together for, for the past few years 00:52:57.610 --> 00:52:59.769 that that's actually a sort of an edited one. 00:52:59.849 --> 00:53:02.630 I have one with, with many more, uh, many more 00:53:02.630 --> 00:53:05.289 piece of information, but it's basically, I took 00:53:05.289 --> 00:53:08.050 the Seneca Lake area and I've put points and, 00:53:08.070 --> 00:53:11.250 and mapped out where there were UFO sightings 00:53:11.250 --> 00:53:13.789 and, uh, you know, some of the, the higher peaks 00:53:13.789 --> 00:53:16.940 and all the waterfalls and. all of these, uh, 00:53:16.940 --> 00:53:21.500 uh, special or unique points and spots around 00:53:21.500 --> 00:53:24.079 the lake that I've, that I've learned about over 00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:27.099 the past, you know, five, 10 years. And, um, 00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:31.579 um, I'm going to, uh, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna 00:53:31.579 --> 00:53:34.460 make sure that I keep revisiting this map and, 00:53:34.500 --> 00:53:38.099 and, um, and, and seeing what, and meditating 00:53:38.099 --> 00:53:41.360 on it and seeing what, uh, what comes out because 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:44.780 I've, I've just had this all through this process 00:53:44.780 --> 00:53:48.659 of. you know, gathering the stories to, to putting 00:53:48.659 --> 00:53:54.880 up the website. There's always this, this motivation 00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:57.360 underneath it all where I'm, I want to know why 00:53:57.360 --> 00:53:59.780 I want to know what it means and if it means 00:53:59.780 --> 00:54:02.860 something, because I'm past the point of, of, 00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:06.920 of considering whether this is a place where 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:11.679 very unusual or unexplained or paranormal or 00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.329 whatever you want to call it. it's a very special 00:54:14.329 --> 00:54:17.289 place and it has, I know that it's, it's different 00:54:17.289 --> 00:54:19.449 than anywhere else in the world. And it has these, 00:54:19.550 --> 00:54:23.570 um, special properties. And, um, I love the idea 00:54:23.570 --> 00:54:28.590 of, of just, just trying to try to, uh, put the 00:54:28.590 --> 00:54:31.369 pieces of the puzzle together and, and, and seeing 00:54:31.369 --> 00:54:38.179 how it, um, how it can, uh, can, I guess. enhance 00:54:38.179 --> 00:54:41.260 my life enhance other people's lives and make 00:54:41.260 --> 00:54:45.139 uh and just even from the just basic standpoint 00:54:45.139 --> 00:54:49.139 of of people who live around here just having 00:54:49.139 --> 00:54:52.099 a more more of an appreciation and a different 00:54:52.099 --> 00:54:55.579 type of appreciation for where they are and where 00:54:55.579 --> 00:54:58.579 they live because um you know you talk about 00:54:58.579 --> 00:55:03.440 us we're always surrounded by and and and swimming 00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.340 in these energies and there, these energies are 00:55:06.340 --> 00:55:09.460 even part of us and it's so easy to go through 00:55:09.460 --> 00:55:12.340 life and not, and not stop for a moment and, 00:55:12.380 --> 00:55:16.000 and, uh, and wonder about that and realize that 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:18.980 there's so much more going on than what's right 00:55:18.980 --> 00:55:22.139 in front of our eyes. And, um, and yeah, can 00:55:22.139 --> 00:55:26.219 you, um, you, you mentioned a little bit about, 00:55:26.219 --> 00:55:29.039 you know, visiting sites and activating your 00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:32.869 chakras. Um, Is there any more you can, you can 00:55:32.869 --> 00:55:36.949 sort of recommend or suggest or talk about, you 00:55:36.949 --> 00:55:42.289 know, ways to acknowledge and celebrate and, 00:55:42.349 --> 00:55:48.050 and, and these, these places, this, these energies 00:55:48.050 --> 00:55:54.530 and how that might, how that can heal us. Yeah. 00:55:54.710 --> 00:55:59.309 Yeah. Well, many of us are going. to visit these 00:55:59.309 --> 00:56:02.889 places because of their natural beauty and we're 00:56:02.889 --> 00:56:07.170 going there with joy and we're going there and 00:56:07.170 --> 00:56:11.329 we're being restored and we may not be going 00:56:11.329 --> 00:56:15.309 about it in this same kind of self -conscious 00:56:15.309 --> 00:56:18.400 way as i am about oh okay there's these subtle 00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.019 energies here but people on some level consciously 00:56:21.019 --> 00:56:23.840 or unconsciously they're we're drawn to these 00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:28.480 energetic places and we can go there even more 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:32.139 in the spirit of pilgrimage we are preparing 00:56:32.139 --> 00:56:37.340 to go we're being mindful uh we're maybe choosing 00:56:37.340 --> 00:56:39.900 certain austerities. We're going to give up sugar 00:56:39.900 --> 00:56:42.679 in the days leading up or give up alcohol or 00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.199 whatever might be austerities in preparation 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:47.679 for the journey. We're deciding what to leave 00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:51.530 behind, what to take with us as we go. There's 00:56:51.530 --> 00:56:53.829 hardships along the way of any pilgrimage. We 00:56:53.829 --> 00:56:57.429 come to certain thresholds. Often the inner sanctum 00:56:57.429 --> 00:57:00.469 is beyond a third threshold. So we're going to 00:57:00.469 --> 00:57:03.190 recognize and acknowledge thresholds along the 00:57:03.190 --> 00:57:05.909 way. We're going to recognize that we're on sacred 00:57:05.909 --> 00:57:08.630 ground. We might take off our shoes if that's 00:57:08.630 --> 00:57:13.039 appropriate. We're going to... Leave no trace. 00:57:13.260 --> 00:57:16.099 Maybe bring a garbage sack and take some trash 00:57:16.099 --> 00:57:19.460 out with us. If we can, we're going to be there 00:57:19.460 --> 00:57:22.460 in joy and gratitude and just as present as we 00:57:22.460 --> 00:57:25.420 can be. Maybe conduct some kind of ceremony. 00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:29.659 Maybe leave some kind of an offering that might 00:57:29.659 --> 00:57:33.980 be a flower or some seeds, something of that 00:57:33.980 --> 00:57:36.559 nature, something that's not going to impose 00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:40.969 on the place. And we may... sanctify the place, 00:57:41.309 --> 00:57:45.829 there's an energy of the place itself, and then 00:57:45.829 --> 00:57:50.789 there's an overlay of consciousness very often. 00:57:51.030 --> 00:57:52.809 And the places that we're talking about, these 00:57:52.809 --> 00:57:56.409 energetic places, they're often what I like to 00:57:56.409 --> 00:57:59.889 call islands of infinity. There's very little 00:57:59.889 --> 00:58:03.789 human consciousness overlay there. The veil between 00:58:03.789 --> 00:58:08.590 worlds is thin, and there's this experience that 00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:13.039 It's totally connected to every other place. 00:58:14.420 --> 00:58:21.860 That you're not separate from the place. That 00:58:21.860 --> 00:58:27.960 you're breathing the air of the place. That you're 00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:32.360 maybe drinking some water from the place or eating 00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:35.679 some wild food. If it's in abundance, you're 00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:40.380 taking something of that place. with you when 00:58:40.380 --> 00:58:45.780 you go energetically and you're returning home 00:58:45.780 --> 00:58:49.760 and you're bringing home the boon the gift of 00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:54.260 having visited that place and then finally that 00:58:54.260 --> 00:58:56.719 you don't have to go to some exotic place that 00:58:56.719 --> 00:59:00.380 that same possibility and infinite energy is 00:59:00.380 --> 00:59:03.039 available to you right where you are all the 00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:09.420 time all right well i think that's a Good place 00:59:09.420 --> 00:59:16.599 to wrap up here. Dan, thank you so much for offering 00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:19.500 to be on the podcast, for being on the podcast, 00:59:19.699 --> 00:59:22.800 for sharing all your knowledge and your wisdom. 00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:25.860 And this is great. I'm going to be thinking about 00:59:25.860 --> 00:59:30.420 this for a while. And why don't you, if you can, 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:34.039 just remind my listeners one more time where 00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:38.480 they can find you and all that. Sure. Well, thank 00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:41.880 you very much for the opportunity. Again, there's 00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:44.679 nothing else I'd rather do than talk about the 00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:48.760 science behind Earth magic. And people can reach 00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:54.280 me through my website, which is vortexmaps .com, 00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.920 and I will answer every inquiry. So thank you 00:59:57.920 --> 00:59:59.980 very much. Thanks for what you're doing. You're 00:59:59.980 --> 01:00:03.940 very welcome. Thank you. Well, that's it for 01:00:03.940 --> 01:00:06.079 this time around. I hope you enjoyed it. Thanks 01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:08.079 so much for listening. 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