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Hey everyone, welcome to Seneca Lake Mysteries,

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the podcast where we explore the unusual, strange,

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and unexplained on New York's largest finger

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lake. So after two episodes in a row with a guest

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who was Soraya Azkath of the Where Did the Road

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Go podcast, it's just me again. And I've got

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some old, timey, really cool stories as well

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as some more recent stories. So thanks so much

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for joining me. First off, I want to thank everyone

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for all the support, for listening, for subscribing,

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for all the comments, the messages, the emails.

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And, you know, the thing is, I listen to a bunch

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of podcasts and you always hear the hosts thanking

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everyone for listening and thanking people for

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their support or asking for support. But I really

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wanted to slow it down a little bit. just speak

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from the heart and let you guys know just how

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much I really do appreciate it. When I started

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this podcast, like I've said before, this was

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just a hobby of mine, collecting these stories.

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I would tell them to people once in a while,

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and people would tell me their stories. But that

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was about it. It was a hobby of mine, and I didn't

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know if it was the kind of thing that there would

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really be an audience for. I suspected there

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would be. I had an intuition there would be,

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but I wasn't really certain to my bones. But

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now I'm learning very quickly that there are

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a lot of you out there who enjoy these stories

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just as much as I do. And you're willing to take

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the time and listen to me tell these stories

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and to take the time to tell other people, to

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listen to the podcast, to send me these emails

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and messages and comments and phone calls. I

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really appreciate all of them. Every time I get

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a message from someone with a question or a tip,

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you know, are you going to talk about this in

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a later show? Or I liked when you talked about

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this, or here's a story I heard. I'm just over

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the moon every time I get one of these messages.

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And I know that as time goes on, the show is

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going to evolve. I'm going to cover a lot of

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different topics, everything from old timey stories

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to some of the more arcane and esoteric takes

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on. the area, and what all these stories mean.

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And so far, so good. I'm really enjoying the

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heck out of this. I'm so glad you're all here

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to go along for the ride. But actually, maybe

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I should rephrase that because you're not only

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along for the ride, so many of you are helping

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me to steer this as well, letting me know what

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you want to hear more about, giving me ideas

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for future episodes. So, yeah, this is everything

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I dreamed it would be and more. The more feedback

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I get from you guys, the more I really, really

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want to give you a good show each time out. So

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stay tuned in the future. I know I've said this

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in the past that I've got some great guests coming

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up. One of the things I'm learning early on here

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doing this podcast is how it can be kind of tricky

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to schedule people for the podcast, especially

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people who. aren't used to doing podcasts maybe

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they have a story or an experience that's unusual

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and it might be the first time that they're talking

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about it also these are people from all different

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walks of life with all kinds of things going

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on in their lives and all kinds of you know challenges

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busy schedules just like a lot of us so a few

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of the people I had expected to have on by now

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aren't on by now But I'm hopeful for the future.

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I'm still putting the call out and I'm still

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reaching out to a lot of folks asking them to

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come on here and share their experiences or their

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knowledge or their wisdom or their reflections

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on the mysteries of Seneca Lake. And hey, if

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you're listening to this right now and you feel

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like you have something to offer the podcast,

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reach out to me. Let me know. Podcast at SenecaLakeMysteries

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.com or you can call, leave a voicemail. or send

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a text to 607 -307 -1167. I'd love to hear from

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you. If you have any suggestions of someone you

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know or know of that you feel would be a good

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fit for the podcast, reach out and let me know

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about them as well. And if you send me a message,

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I will get back to you. So again, thank you so

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much. Whether you're listening locally from...

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Geneva or Watkins Glen or Burdette or Benton

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or Lodi or Romulus or Dresden or Dundee or Valois

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or Willard or Hemrod or Montour Falls or anywhere

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close to the lake. Or if you're listening from

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further away, Rochester, Syracuse, Sweden, Ireland,

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around the world, I see you all and I appreciate

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you all. Thank you. I know it's getting a little

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redundant here, but thank you. Thank you so much

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for being a part of this. Now, the other thing

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you hear on every podcast is requests to continue

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giving your support. So I'm going to ask you

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all again to please subscribe, follow me on social

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media, keep sharing the show. It would be really

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helpful if you're listening to the podcast, but

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you haven't subscribed. on your podcast platform

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to subscribe there, leave reviews. That really

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helps with the algorithm and helps more people

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know about the show. And it helps put me in a

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position, ideally in the future, where I can

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start doing some advertising and generating a

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bit of revenue and help me take care of hosting

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fees and the other costs that go into the podcast

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and to just make it easier for me to bring you.

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more and better shows on the 7th, 17th, and 27th

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of every month. Now, if you're a local business

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who's interested in advertising on the show,

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please reach out to me. I can share with you

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some of the numbers, the listenership that the

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podcast has. And of course, you'd be advertising

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to people who really love Seneca Lake and either

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spend time here or live near here or have spent

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time around the lake. So yeah, give me a shout.

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Let me know. And also, if you would like to donate

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to the show, I would greatly appreciate that.

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And right now, you could donate through Venmo.

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My Venmo is at Seneca Lake. And I would be so

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grateful for any kind of donation at all. But

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it's not required. Obviously, you can still listen

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to the show. And I'm still deeply grateful that

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you're here. And also, as the show continues

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to grow, I plan to set up a Patreon where you

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can subscribe and pay a little bit each month

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for extra content that you won't hear on the

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podcast. So stay tuned for that. It's not set

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up yet, but stay tuned for that. And let's see.

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Before we get to our main stories this week,

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I wanted to talk a little bit about a topic or

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a place. that I plan to do some future episodes

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on. Now, I wasn't planning to do any episodes

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on this particular location when I started the

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podcast because I wanted to focus on locations

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that are within roughly four miles of the shores

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of Seneca Lake. However, there's a place a little

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bit further away, maybe seven or eight miles

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to the south of Seneca Lake. not far from the

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hamlet of alpine and that place is known as the

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connecticut hill wildlife management area now

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connecticut hill is pretty widely known as a

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place where a lot of very strange things occur

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there's an old cemetery there people call the

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witch's cemetery there have been numerous paranormal

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investigators, and even Bigfoot investigators

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up there on Connecticut Hill because over the

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years there have been a wide variety of high

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strangeness reports from Bigfoot to UFOs to strange

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lights in the woods to the Oz effect, lost time,

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strange sounds, strange voices. The list goes

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on and on. And unsurprisingly, I've gotten a

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whole lot of messages from people and a whole

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lot of suggestions to do an episode about Connecticut

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Hill. And something else that I realize is that

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Connecticut Hill is at the southernmost part

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of the Seneca Lake watershed. So you know what?

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I'm going to say that it's part of the Seneca

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Lake Mysteries area. And I'm going to let you

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know that I'm not sure when, but... In the coming

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weeks, I will be doing an episode about Connecticut

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Hill. I also plan to go up there and look around,

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see what I can find. So for those of you who

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asked for it, you're going to get it. I'll have

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a show on Connecticut Hill coming at you very

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soon. So that's about it for now. Let's get on

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to the stories for this week. I'll be talking

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about some crazy orb sightings. In the last few

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years in Geneva, in a particular area along North

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Street. Then I'm going to move into some old

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time stories about cursed or hexed steamboats

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from the steamboat era on Seneca Lake. And also

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another story from just after the steamboat era.

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Kind of a crazy story about a boat called the

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Portadora, which began its life. as a luxury

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vessel on seneca lake before it turned to a life

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of crime so again thanks so much for being here

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i really do genuinely appreciate it and yeah

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let's get into it so back in the fall of 2022

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i learned about an incident that had taken place

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earlier that year from someone i knew personally

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they were aware of my interest and my seneca

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lake mysteries project so they didn't reach out

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to me specifically to tell me the story rather

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we had met up in person and they said hey this

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is something you might be interested in and relayed

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the story to me the incident took place on north

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street in geneva in the vicinity of Geneva High

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School. Now, I want to be careful about how much

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detail I give about this event due to the witnesses

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wanting confidentiality. So I'm not going to

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be very detailed in describing where it took

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place. But here's the story as it was told to

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me. One morning in the spring of 2022, a resident

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in this neighborhood had discovered the driver's

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side window of their car had been shattered during

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the night. So immediately they assumed that it

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was a vandal who had broken the window. So they,

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like many places these days, they have a security

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camera outside aimed right at the car. So they

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reviewed the security footage. Now the security

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camera was positioned from the passenger side,

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so you couldn't see. the driver's side window

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specifically but you could see the entire vehicle

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now in the video it was around 3 or 4 a .m and

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suddenly a floating airborne bright light about

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maybe the size of a softball or a volleyball

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but it was difficult to tell due to the this

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light this orb being so bright so this uh this

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light came into the frame and moved around the

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vehicle and then moved low almost to the ground

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or maybe even to the ground on the opposite side

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of the car on the driver's side out of the camera's

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view the light paused there for several seconds

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and then it rose up again to a height slightly

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above the roof of the car and then suddenly The

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light zigzagged back and forth approximately

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four or five times and then shot off out of camera

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range at what was an impossible speed. The witness

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said it was similar to like taking a laser pointer

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and pointing it at a wall and then shaking it

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back and forth real quickly and moving it off,

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moving it away. The video was clear and unambiguous.

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Even though it was night vision, you could still

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very clearly see the vehicle and anything around

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it. And this strange light, which had gone down

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on the side of the vehicle where the driver's

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side window was that broke, and then took off

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and the window was broken. So numerous witnesses

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actually viewed this footage. Multiple people

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looked at it and nobody could figure out what

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it was, obviously. So they, it was considered,

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well, maybe they should contact the police because

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of the vandal, because of the broken window.

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But they understood that the police wouldn't

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be able to do anything about it. And they discussed

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further whether or not to go public with the

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footage, either to put it on social media or

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otherwise. And the decision was made to simply

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replace the car window and forget that the event

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happened. And the reason these folks didn't want

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to go public with it was the attention it might

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cause. They didn't want investigators to come.

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They didn't want to be interviewed. They valued

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their privacy. So yeah, that was basically going

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to be the end of it. Now, I can't be 100 % sure,

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but I believe that the original footage, was

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recorded over like it wasn't saved it wasn't

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kept nobody really wanted to needed to keep that

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the footage around any longer so it was uh it

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was recorded over however there was at least

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one person that did copy the footage off of the

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monitor screen i believe of the event but that

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person i'm not sure who that is i'm not sure

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if they want to release the video now i want

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to make it clear that the witness who told me

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the story i trust this person completely they

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had no reason to fabricate this and their description

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was honest and authentic their response to the

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to the entire event so at the time i noted the

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story i said wow that's a great one and kind

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of put it aside hoping that maybe One day I could

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follow up on it. Maybe the witnesses might want

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to reveal what happened. Maybe the video would

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surface. But then a few months later, in late

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2022, I was looking at UFO sightings online and

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I found a UFO sighting report that got my attention

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and made me reconsider the car window incident,

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which was apparently damaged by a low -flying...

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glowing orb so i was looking through sightings

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on a website called ufo stalker .com now there

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are a bunch of other websites with ufo databases

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that have far more sightings but ufo ufo stalker

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is still one that i check on occasion so it's

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a very short description that the sighting there's

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not a lot of detail to it but here's the information

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that comes from that sighting it occurred on

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April 26, 2022, at 4 .06 p .m., and it took place

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at Geneva Middle School and High School on North

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Street. So it's basically one long sentence giving

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you the whole sighting, and this is how it reads.

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First, it mentions that it was a sighting of

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a light, of some kind of light, and it describes

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it as such. Quote, it was over by a parking lot,

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just moving all over the place with a white light,

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even turning red, then moved over to our field

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and was hovering a little more higher, then just

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got higher, then went back to the parking lot

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and was gone. End quote. So when I read this,

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I realized, wow, this is less than a quarter

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mile from the orb sighting with. car damage.

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So now I have one solid sighting with multiple

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witnesses and apparently video, and now a second

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sighting describing a very similar object, very

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close to where the first sighting took place.

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So I'm talking about it today because I want

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to put it out there to all of you, especially

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my listeners in Geneva. Have you seen any strange

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low -flying lights or orbs moving and hovering

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around the North Street, Carter Road neighborhood

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near the school? Do you know anyone who has?

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If so, let me know. I'd love to hear from you.

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And also, I'm looking for anyone with info on

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the incident with the car window and the footage,

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especially the person out there who... Apparently

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has a copy of this footage. Please reach out

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to me. I will keep your anonymity, confidentiality.

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I honor those at all times. And I'd like to explore

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this more. I'd like to look into this more. See

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what's going on up there on North Street. And

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see if it's something that other people have

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experienced as well. So there you go. Okay, folks,

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so I have a bunch of stories that are all under

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the umbrella of one main story, and I call that

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story Seneca's Steamboat Hex. So Seneca Lake's

00:19:51.819 --> 00:19:56.559
steamboat era took place from 1828 through the

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1920s. In its heyday, these steamers would run

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on a regular schedule from Geneva to Watkins

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Glen. about a four -hour trip with several stops

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along the way. So these big wooden vessels, depending

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on their size, could transport anywhere from

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50 to 1 ,500 passengers in a single trip while

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also towing multiple canal boats and delivering

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various goods to and from locations up and down

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the lake. Now, passengers would take the steamboat

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for a variety of reasons. Many Geneva businessmen

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who lived south of the city would take their

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daily commute aboard a steamer, while other residents

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and visitors could pay the 25 -cent fare to visit

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friends or shop or conduct business or just take

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excursions to recreational attractions or to

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just enjoy the scenery. Now, the finer steamboats

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offered private cabins. fine meals in the dining

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room, and musical entertainment in the staterooms

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or on the promenade decks. There were an estimated

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75 different steamers that traveled the waves

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of Seneca during this era, many of which were

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built at boatyards along the lakeshore in places

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including Geneva, Lodi Landing, Long Point, Dundee.

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and Watkins Glen. Now because these boats were

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made of wood and powered by large coal and wood

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burning furnaces, steamboat fires were common.

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Still, many locals at the time believed that

00:21:42.690 --> 00:21:45.950
there was a hex on the steamboats of Seneca that

00:21:45.950 --> 00:21:49.589
was responsible for the numerous accidents, fires,

00:21:49.970 --> 00:21:54.569
sinkings, and even deaths that struck a good

00:21:54.569 --> 00:21:57.740
number of these steamboats. But possible hexes

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aside, many of the more prominent steamers of

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the era had histories that were filled with bizarre

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and striking stories. And here are just a few

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of them. So the first one I call the Seneca Chief,

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a .k .a. the Geneva. So the Seneca Chief went

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from Geneva to Watkins Glen and back on July

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3rd, 1828. which heralded the start of the steamboat

00:22:28.180 --> 00:22:32.500
era on Seneca Lake. The 90 -foot -long boat left

00:22:32.500 --> 00:22:35.859
Geneva around 8 a .m. and made it to Watkins

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at around 1 p .m., where it was greeted by a

00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:43.900
group of around 4 ,000 to 5 ,000 people who were

00:22:43.900 --> 00:22:47.839
eager to see this new steamboat, this new technology

00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:51.900
on its maiden voyage. So after the Seneca chief

00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:54.829
stayed in Watkins for about two hours, It made

00:22:54.829 --> 00:22:58.410
its way back to Geneva and docked at around 8

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p .m. Now, within the next year, the steamboat's

00:23:02.109 --> 00:23:05.549
owners had built a cabin on the deck, raised

00:23:05.549 --> 00:23:09.009
the wheels, and completed some other improvements

00:23:09.009 --> 00:23:14.970
to increase comfort, speed, and appearance. But

00:23:14.970 --> 00:23:20.930
in January 1832, the Seneca Chief sank at a wharf

00:23:20.930 --> 00:23:25.930
in Geneva after a storm. The boat was eventually

00:23:25.930 --> 00:23:29.809
raised. They did more upgrades on it. And by

00:23:29.809 --> 00:23:32.670
the next year, it was sold to new owners who

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promptly lengthened the boat by 35 feet and renamed

00:23:36.069 --> 00:23:42.450
it the Geneva. So around 1847 or 1848, the Geneva

00:23:42.450 --> 00:23:45.650
had reached the end of its career. But disposing

00:23:45.650 --> 00:23:49.509
of a 125 -foot -long steamboat wasn't going to

00:23:49.509 --> 00:23:53.960
be easy. That little problem was solved when

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it was decided that the steamer would be packed

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with explosive powder and blown up off of the

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shore in Geneva as part of the Fourth of July

00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:09.440
celebration. So an estimated 10 ,000 onlookers

00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:13.839
gather along the shore, eagerly awaiting the

00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:17.480
spectacle, and the Geneva was loaded with powder,

00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:22.980
was... placed far offshore, and a long wire was

00:24:22.980 --> 00:24:26.099
connected to an electric battery that was run

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to set off the explosion. After several attempts,

00:24:30.059 --> 00:24:35.500
the powder failed to ignite. So, a few people

00:24:35.500 --> 00:24:39.460
got into a boat. This little boating party was

00:24:39.460 --> 00:24:43.799
dispatched with a fuse to approach the steamer

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and trigger the explosion by introducing fire.

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However, it turned out that the powder had somehow

00:24:51.130 --> 00:24:54.609
become wet and the boating party could only manage

00:24:54.609 --> 00:24:58.690
to light the steamboat on fire. So at first,

00:24:58.710 --> 00:25:00.789
the crowd was disappointed that they didn't get

00:25:00.789 --> 00:25:05.490
to see the Geneva blow up. Yet, once the fire

00:25:05.490 --> 00:25:08.569
started raging, it was sending flames up high

00:25:08.569 --> 00:25:12.630
into the night sky and brightly lighting up the

00:25:12.630 --> 00:25:15.630
harbor and the shore. The spectators ended up

00:25:15.630 --> 00:25:18.680
having a pretty good time anyway. Now the next

00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:24.400
story I call Death Toll on the Watkins. The Watkins

00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:27.619
was another early Seneca Lake steamer. It was

00:25:27.619 --> 00:25:32.099
built in 1853 and ended up having a dark history

00:25:32.099 --> 00:25:35.279
that unfolded within a very short span of time.

00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.720
Several years after the Watkins went into service,

00:25:38.900 --> 00:25:43.240
the newly invented steamboat propeller was added

00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:47.549
to the steamboat. But the excitement of the new

00:25:47.549 --> 00:25:51.329
propeller didn't last long because a propeller

00:25:51.329 --> 00:25:55.069
accident on Seneca Lake killed two people. The

00:25:55.069 --> 00:25:58.670
Watkins was taken out of service for a short

00:25:58.670 --> 00:26:02.329
time, but not long after it returned to work,

00:26:02.470 --> 00:26:05.349
there was another horrific accident that happened

00:26:05.349 --> 00:26:09.769
on the Watkins. Two bolt heads on the boiler

00:26:09.769 --> 00:26:13.559
were blown off by an explosion. killing one boiler

00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:17.700
operator and injuring another. And despite the

00:26:17.700 --> 00:26:20.440
boat's death toll, it was returned to service

00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:23.940
for a few more years, but eventually taken out

00:26:23.940 --> 00:26:26.359
of service and the engines were removed and the

00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:31.099
hull was left to rot. Moving on to the next story,

00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:37.660
the Onondaga, contaminated war hero. So in 1860,

00:26:37.819 --> 00:26:43.420
a steam -powered paddle wheel towboat, named

00:26:43.420 --> 00:26:47.880
the Perez H. Fields was built. When the American

00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:52.039
Civil War began in 1861, the boat was commissioned

00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.200
by the U .S. government to transport troops.

00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:59.000
So enlisted Union soldiers would be picked up

00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:02.980
along the shore in Geneva and transported on

00:27:02.980 --> 00:27:07.299
the Perez H. Fields to Watkins Glen before those

00:27:07.299 --> 00:27:09.880
soldiers would head to the Union encampment in

00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:13.759
Elmira. about 24 miles away, and then they would

00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.460
travel on to the battlefields across the south.

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It's likely that hundreds or maybe even thousands

00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:25.640
of Union soldiers rode on the Perez H. Fields

00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:30.819
down Seneca Lake in the early 1860s. And after

00:27:30.819 --> 00:27:36.000
the Civil War ended, the steamer Onondaga ended

00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:39.380
up spending the next five years serving as a

00:27:39.380 --> 00:27:43.359
towboat. Now, the Seneca Lake Navigation Company,

00:27:43.539 --> 00:27:47.859
looking to increase their fleet of excursionist

00:27:47.859 --> 00:27:51.740
steamboats, commissioned a shipbuilder named

00:27:51.740 --> 00:27:55.140
Bruce Springstead, a highly renowned shipbuilder,

00:27:55.160 --> 00:28:00.220
Bruce Springstead, to rebuild and revamp the

00:28:00.220 --> 00:28:06.859
Perez H fields. And the result was a 175 foot

00:28:06.859 --> 00:28:12.779
long, 500 passenger. luxury ship. Now the Onondaga

00:28:12.779 --> 00:28:16.920
was regarded as the largest steamer in service

00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:21.619
between the Hudson River and Buffalo and the

00:28:21.619 --> 00:28:25.859
newly renamed Onondaga offered the finest in

00:28:25.859 --> 00:28:29.819
comfort and style on its trips between Geneva

00:28:29.819 --> 00:28:33.200
and Watkins Glen and points in between. Over

00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.500
the next couple of decades as bigger and faster

00:28:36.500 --> 00:28:39.720
steamboats appeared on Seneca Lake The Onondaga

00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:43.500
lost a bit of its shine, but it continued to

00:28:43.500 --> 00:28:48.099
carry passengers on its daily route before, or

00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:51.680
routes, before finally being retired and docked

00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:56.839
in Geneva in 1895. Now, it seems that nobody

00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.519
was really sure what to do with this old steamboat,

00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:03.819
so the Onondaga remained at the dock in Geneva

00:29:03.819 --> 00:29:10.019
for the next three years. Then in 1898, the Smith

00:29:10.019 --> 00:29:12.539
Opera House in Geneva, a performing arts theater

00:29:12.539 --> 00:29:16.960
in Geneva, hosted the Joshua Simpkins Opera Company,

00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:20.759
who were performing one of the most popular shows

00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:24.200
of the time, the stage comedy Joshua Simpkins.

00:29:25.099 --> 00:29:28.000
Now, it was discovered that the road troop, after

00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:30.420
arriving in Geneva, had brought smallpox with

00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:33.380
them. So local officials did what they thought

00:29:33.380 --> 00:29:36.599
was the best course of action. to quarantine

00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.599
all of the actors at the edge of the city in

00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.839
their private rail cars. And then once the actors

00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.640
were in there, they hosed down the rails cars

00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:54.160
with formaldehyde. Now the quarantine didn't

00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:58.319
go as they had hoped because the infected actors

00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:02.440
or the potentially infected actors weren't staying

00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:07.240
inside the train. the public was curious and

00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.740
they weren't staying away from the train. So

00:30:10.740 --> 00:30:15.839
the public health and government officials decided

00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:20.140
that this was no good. So they loaded the entire

00:30:20.140 --> 00:30:24.920
troop onto the Onondaga and then anchored the

00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:29.079
boat a ways away from shore in Geneva's Harbor

00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:34.480
for a month long quarantine. So these, uh, these,

00:30:34.990 --> 00:30:40.769
were going to stay on this steamboat floating

00:30:40.769 --> 00:30:44.789
in the middle of the harbor for a full month.

00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:49.869
Now, the performers made the best of their stay

00:30:49.869 --> 00:30:56.369
aboard their new floating home, even giving performances

00:30:56.369 --> 00:31:00.430
of Joshua Simpkins on the deck of the steamboat

00:31:00.430 --> 00:31:03.089
for the entertainment of the audiences that were

00:31:03.089 --> 00:31:07.359
gathered on shore. So when the traveling company

00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.579
finally disembarked the Onondaga at the end of

00:31:11.579 --> 00:31:15.920
the quarantine on June 24th, 1898, the legendary

00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.839
steamboat was now considered a floating biological

00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:24.900
hazard. So immediate disposal of this potentially

00:31:24.900 --> 00:31:30.180
infected boat was deemed necessary. And the Seneca

00:31:30.180 --> 00:31:34.700
Lake Steamboat Company came up with a plan. to

00:31:34.700 --> 00:31:39.259
end the life of the Onondaga with a fiery extravaganza.

00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:43.599
So they decided that the Onondaga would be blown

00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:48.039
up on the lake off Kashong Point on September

00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:54.700
14, 1898. And it was advertised both as a celebration

00:31:54.700 --> 00:31:58.000
of the United States' recent victory in the Spanish

00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:02.759
-American War. and also as an homage to the explosion

00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:08.079
of the USS Maine, which had helped spur the start

00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.900
of the war earlier that year. So flyers promoting

00:32:12.900 --> 00:32:15.720
the event were distributed across New York and

00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.240
Pennsylvania, inviting visitors to enjoy, quote,

00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.660
a never -to -be -forgotten spectacle, end quote,

00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:26.480
and an estimated crowd of 5 ,000 people traveled.

00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.220
from near and far to gather on both shores of

00:32:30.220 --> 00:32:34.819
the lake, both on the east and west, to watch

00:32:34.819 --> 00:32:38.880
the show. So a band played, hot air balloons

00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:43.099
were launched. It was quite a day. And after

00:32:43.099 --> 00:32:46.819
the paddle wheel and the other machinery were

00:32:46.819 --> 00:32:51.759
removed, 500 pounds of dynamite, 300 pounds of

00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.839
blasting powder, and a barrel of gasoline were

00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.859
distributed. around the onondaga the onondaga

00:32:58.859 --> 00:33:01.859
was then towed to the center of the lake off

00:33:01.859 --> 00:33:06.819
kashong point and was ignited at about 4 30 p

00:33:06.819 --> 00:33:11.119
.m three long tongues of fire shot out from the

00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.720
ship sending debris flying in all directions

00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:18.619
a massive dome of dense yellow smoke surrounded

00:33:18.619 --> 00:33:23.119
and obscured the boat from view for a while as

00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:27.460
a 500 -foot mushroom cloud rose into the sky.

00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:32.420
And over the next several days, small pieces

00:33:32.420 --> 00:33:35.759
of the Onondaga were found scattered on the lake.

00:33:36.140 --> 00:33:38.700
But this wasn't quite the end of the story of

00:33:38.700 --> 00:33:44.180
the Onondaga because in August of 2012, almost

00:33:44.180 --> 00:33:49.680
114 years after the explosion, the destruction

00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:53.900
of the Onondaga, A group of researchers located

00:33:53.900 --> 00:33:57.079
the wreckage of the steamboat at the bottom of

00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:02.299
Seneca Lake at a depth of around 400 feet. Next

00:34:02.299 --> 00:34:06.160
up, I have a story called The Mighty Ben Loader's

00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:10.539
Deadly End. So the largest and most powerful

00:34:10.539 --> 00:34:14.659
steamboat ever built on Seneca Lake was the Ben

00:34:14.659 --> 00:34:18.500
Loader. Construction on the boat was completed.

00:34:19.179 --> 00:34:23.019
And it was placed into service on Seneca Lake

00:34:23.019 --> 00:34:31.059
in 1849. Now, this was a behemoth. It was 250

00:34:31.059 --> 00:34:36.460
feet long and could transport 1 ,500 passengers

00:34:36.460 --> 00:34:40.079
at a time with a top speed of around 20 miles

00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:44.559
an hour. So at its peak, the Ben Loder was completing

00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:48.559
four round trips between Watkins Glen in Geneva,

00:34:49.050 --> 00:34:54.389
each day. Then in 1853, the steamboat was sold

00:34:54.389 --> 00:34:58.909
to a new owner and converted to a towboat. Now,

00:34:58.929 --> 00:35:01.369
the way these towboats worked, there were horse

00:35:01.369 --> 00:35:04.789
-drawn canal boats that were carrying coal and

00:35:04.789 --> 00:35:07.369
agricultural products and building materials

00:35:07.369 --> 00:35:11.429
and other cargo that would arrive in Geneva on

00:35:11.429 --> 00:35:14.710
the Seneca Cayuga Canal. Then the canal boats

00:35:14.710 --> 00:35:18.469
would be tied together and hitched. to a towboat

00:35:18.469 --> 00:35:21.429
and then the towboat would pull the canal boats

00:35:21.429 --> 00:35:24.949
down the lake to be unloaded in Watkins Glen.

00:35:25.969 --> 00:35:30.050
Then the canal boats would be reloaded with cargo

00:35:30.050 --> 00:35:34.349
and towed back to Geneva. Now the crew of each

00:35:34.349 --> 00:35:37.949
canal boat would take the trip from Geneva to

00:35:37.949 --> 00:35:41.050
Watkins and back and they'd either leave their

00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:43.469
horses in one of the large horse barns in Geneva

00:35:43.469 --> 00:35:46.449
or they'd bring the horses with them on the canal

00:35:46.449 --> 00:35:51.150
boats. for the round trip some of the larger

00:35:51.150 --> 00:35:54.349
tow boats were known to pull dozens of canal

00:35:54.349 --> 00:35:58.170
boats at one time the largest number of canal

00:35:58.170 --> 00:36:02.929
boats ever towed at once was 70 and that record

00:36:02.929 --> 00:36:07.550
was held by you guessed it the ben loader now

00:36:07.550 --> 00:36:12.329
in 1861 during its 12th year of service on seneca

00:36:12.329 --> 00:36:16.159
lake The assistant engineer and a deckhand were

00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:19.420
killed on the Ben Loader by a boiler explosion.

00:36:20.420 --> 00:36:24.739
A dozen canal horses and several other crew members

00:36:24.739 --> 00:36:29.900
were scalded by the blisteringly hot water that

00:36:29.900 --> 00:36:32.739
came from the boiler during that explosion as

00:36:32.739 --> 00:36:38.860
well. Then on the evening of May 15th, also 1861,

00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:42.019
the Ben Loader was on its way from Geneva to

00:36:42.019 --> 00:36:48.260
Watkins Glen. pulling 27 boats and 17 cribs of

00:36:48.260 --> 00:36:53.380
lumber. About 12 miles south of Geneva, the steamer

00:36:53.380 --> 00:36:57.019
encountered a sudden storm and a violent gust

00:36:57.019 --> 00:37:00.900
of wind from the southwest slammed into the steamboat

00:37:00.900 --> 00:37:07.079
and its cargo, causing the last 11 boats that

00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.239
were tied to the bend loader and that were also

00:37:10.809 --> 00:37:13.730
filled with lumber, railroad ties, coal, and

00:37:13.730 --> 00:37:17.889
barley to break free. And the Ben Loader's crew

00:37:17.889 --> 00:37:20.969
watched in horror as three of the boats were

00:37:20.969 --> 00:37:24.170
lifted almost completely out of the water before

00:37:24.170 --> 00:37:28.849
plunging and disappearing into the waves. And

00:37:28.849 --> 00:37:32.949
on board those apparently sunken boats were the

00:37:32.949 --> 00:37:37.869
crew and their horses, all of whom were assumed

00:37:37.869 --> 00:37:42.690
dead. But the next morning, the Ben Loader and

00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:47.210
another steamboat, the STR -0, were sent to look

00:37:47.210 --> 00:37:50.809
for the missing boats and the crews and horses.

00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:53.750
And when they arrived at the scene of the previous

00:37:53.750 --> 00:37:59.309
evening's events, they found all of the boats

00:37:59.309 --> 00:38:04.969
and the crews either ashore or anchored nearby.

00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.699
By some miracle, only minor injuries were suffered

00:38:09.699 --> 00:38:14.000
and all the crew members were alive. It was learned,

00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.400
however, that when the three coal boats plunged

00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:19.480
underwater, they flipped over, lost their loads

00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:21.880
of coal, and then bobbed to the surface upside

00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.920
down. And in the process, six horses were lost.

00:38:26.380 --> 00:38:30.820
But interestingly, only one of those horses'

00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:36.309
corpses were found. uh when it drifted to shore

00:38:36.309 --> 00:38:41.690
then just a few weeks later the ben loader finally

00:38:41.690 --> 00:38:48.590
met its end on june 2nd 1861 the steamboat was

00:38:48.590 --> 00:38:51.949
docked at a coal trestle in watkins glen for

00:38:51.949 --> 00:38:54.010
the night and at some point during the night

00:38:54.010 --> 00:38:57.929
the ben loader caught fire the flames raged out

00:38:57.929 --> 00:39:01.849
of control the crew made the decision to cut

00:39:01.849 --> 00:39:04.710
the steamboat adrift so the fire wouldn't ignite

00:39:04.710 --> 00:39:08.030
the coal storage facility nearby and possibly

00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:11.889
the entire village. So the Ben Loader floated

00:39:11.889 --> 00:39:15.590
out onto Seneca Lake, fully engulfed in flames,

00:39:15.610 --> 00:39:19.409
and would be completely incinerated down to the

00:39:19.409 --> 00:39:24.110
waterline. Now the next story is a quick one.

00:39:24.769 --> 00:39:29.070
I call it the legendary Otetiani's egg -citing

00:39:29.070 --> 00:39:34.369
finale. Well, so this isn't necessarily evidence

00:39:34.369 --> 00:39:36.849
of a curse or a hex, but the final days of the

00:39:36.849 --> 00:39:41.789
Otetiani were a bit strange. You may recall if

00:39:41.789 --> 00:39:45.710
you listened in episode two, I talked about the

00:39:45.710 --> 00:39:49.190
incredible encounter between the Otetiani and

00:39:49.190 --> 00:39:51.989
the Seneca Lake Serpent that took place in 1900,

00:39:52.210 --> 00:39:55.349
the most famous Seneca Lake Serpent story ever.

00:39:56.090 --> 00:40:00.590
And after that event, the Otetiani continued

00:40:00.590 --> 00:40:04.789
doing regular routes between Geneva and Watkins

00:40:04.789 --> 00:40:09.469
Glen through late 1905. And it was around that

00:40:09.469 --> 00:40:13.889
time, 1905, 1906, that it was renamed the Seneca.

00:40:14.510 --> 00:40:18.769
And for the next three years, it was only intermittently

00:40:18.769 --> 00:40:24.670
in service between Watkins and Geneva. And when

00:40:24.670 --> 00:40:27.590
the steamboat reached the end of its useful life,

00:40:28.170 --> 00:40:33.050
It wasn't just disassembled for parts or burned

00:40:33.050 --> 00:40:36.170
in the lake or anything like that. It was docked

00:40:36.170 --> 00:40:40.289
in Watkins Glen in the winter of 1908 to 1909.

00:40:41.010 --> 00:40:46.570
And part of the boat was brought ashore and cut

00:40:46.570 --> 00:40:51.170
in half and began the final phase of its life

00:40:51.170 --> 00:40:57.170
as a hen house. And finally, we wrap up the...

00:40:57.869 --> 00:41:02.769
stories of the seneca steamboat hexes with the

00:41:02.769 --> 00:41:06.090
final tale the sinking of the manhattan and the

00:41:06.090 --> 00:41:10.769
end of the steamboats so as railroads completely

00:41:10.769 --> 00:41:15.769
took over the manhattan was still regularly bringing

00:41:15.769 --> 00:41:19.949
passengers between geneva and watkins glen in

00:41:19.949 --> 00:41:23.829
1915 now this steamer like many others that had

00:41:23.829 --> 00:41:27.230
traveled seneca lake over the previous hundred

00:41:27.230 --> 00:41:31.170
years, ended its career quite abruptly and in

00:41:31.170 --> 00:41:34.869
dramatic fashion. So the Manhattan was anchored

00:41:34.869 --> 00:41:38.150
at the northern end of the lake near the canal.

00:41:39.010 --> 00:41:42.409
Now somehow one evening the steamer broke away

00:41:42.409 --> 00:41:46.329
from its moorings and went adrift, and it made

00:41:46.329 --> 00:41:48.929
its way about a hundred feet through the canal

00:41:48.929 --> 00:41:53.510
before getting wedged under a bridge. So the

00:41:53.510 --> 00:41:57.159
crew came, the boat was dislodged, And then it

00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.579
was towed back and reattached to its moorings

00:42:00.579 --> 00:42:05.440
when the Manhattan promptly sunk. So the owners

00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:10.500
worked to successfully plug the leak and towed

00:42:10.500 --> 00:42:14.000
the Manhattan to Cayuga Lake and docked it there.

00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:18.199
At which point the Manhattan sunk again, marking

00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:22.699
the final chapter in Seneca Lake's steamboat

00:42:22.699 --> 00:42:28.469
era. okay so the steamboat era was over but i

00:42:28.469 --> 00:42:32.789
have one more story from the early 1900s came

00:42:32.789 --> 00:42:35.869
right after the steamboat era and i loved it

00:42:35.869 --> 00:42:38.630
i think it's just a really delightful little

00:42:38.630 --> 00:42:43.030
tale and i call it from luxury boating to liquor

00:42:43.030 --> 00:42:47.929
bootlegging the tale of the portadora so in 1909

00:42:47.929 --> 00:42:51.949
the first gasoline powered boat to run a regular

00:42:51.949 --> 00:42:55.139
schedule on Seneca Lake was built. It was 43

00:42:55.139 --> 00:42:59.059
feet long and capable of carrying 50 passengers.

00:42:59.579 --> 00:43:03.019
Name of the boat was the Portadora, and it was

00:43:03.019 --> 00:43:06.900
owned by Captain Frank Power. And the Portadora

00:43:06.900 --> 00:43:11.260
was a very sleek, very modern machine for its

00:43:11.260 --> 00:43:15.699
time. Now, five years after the Portadora's launch,

00:43:16.179 --> 00:43:19.920
Captain Tower wanted to find a way to attract

00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.650
more passengers to his boat. So he developed

00:43:23.650 --> 00:43:28.030
Pastime Park on the northeast side of the lake.

00:43:28.449 --> 00:43:33.010
On this property, Captain Tower built tennis

00:43:33.010 --> 00:43:37.829
courts, a picnic grove, a bathhouse, and a 5

00:43:37.829 --> 00:43:40.909
,000 square foot pavilion for entertainment and

00:43:40.909 --> 00:43:45.809
dancing. And pretty soon, Genevans began... building

00:43:45.809 --> 00:43:49.130
cottages at Pastime Park, where businessmen could

00:43:49.130 --> 00:43:52.050
spend the summer with their families while commuting

00:43:52.050 --> 00:43:55.909
back and forth to work on the Portadora. Now,

00:43:55.949 --> 00:43:59.050
after nine years of running the Pastime Park

00:43:59.050 --> 00:44:02.809
route, the Portadora was removed from service

00:44:02.809 --> 00:44:07.650
and sold by Captain Tower to what was described

00:44:07.650 --> 00:44:13.349
as a group of New Yorkers in 1923. And those

00:44:13.349 --> 00:44:15.809
new owners were about to put that old passenger

00:44:15.809 --> 00:44:20.090
boat into a very different kind of service. The

00:44:20.090 --> 00:44:23.929
United States era of alcohol prohibition was

00:44:23.929 --> 00:44:27.289
in full swing at this time, which created the

00:44:27.289 --> 00:44:30.650
illegal bootlegging industry. Now, in the northeastern

00:44:30.650 --> 00:44:34.809
United States, one popular route to bring booze

00:44:34.809 --> 00:44:38.750
from Canada to the United States was via boat

00:44:38.750 --> 00:44:43.190
across Lake Ontario. And the new owners of the

00:44:43.190 --> 00:44:47.510
Portadora put the boat to work transporting this

00:44:47.510 --> 00:44:52.630
illegal alcohol. And these boats were called

00:44:52.630 --> 00:44:56.590
rum runners. Now, I'm not sure how long the Portadora

00:44:56.590 --> 00:45:01.010
was in service running alcohol, but eventually

00:45:01.010 --> 00:45:05.510
the long arm of the law caught up and the Portadora

00:45:05.510 --> 00:45:10.530
was seized by revenuers. And after having brought

00:45:10.530 --> 00:45:14.550
joy and laughter to so many countless families

00:45:14.550 --> 00:45:17.849
on Seneca Lake for so many years, the Portadora,

00:45:18.170 --> 00:45:22.010
like many rum runners of the era, was ordered

00:45:22.010 --> 00:45:27.389
to be destroyed. Well, that's it for this time

00:45:27.389 --> 00:45:29.429
around. I hope you enjoyed it. Thanks so much

00:45:29.429 --> 00:45:31.510
for listening. And if you have any thoughts on

00:45:31.510 --> 00:45:34.110
any of the topics in this episode, please let

00:45:34.110 --> 00:45:36.599
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