WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.799 Are you feeling lost? Well, you've come to the 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:05.580 right place. Welcome to Lostish, where we, Rose 00:00:05.580 --> 00:00:08.179 Chachko, and Emmanuella Kathreptakis, share what 00:00:08.179 --> 00:00:10.619 it's really like navigating your twenties. We're 00:00:10.619 --> 00:00:13.880 two semi -lost girls figuring out careers, relationships, 00:00:14.300 --> 00:00:16.120 wellness, purpose, and everything in between. 00:00:16.219 --> 00:00:19.140 Each week we dive into the highs, the lows, and 00:00:19.140 --> 00:00:21.620 lessons of chasing your dreams, finding happiness, 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:23.800 and learning to embrace the uncertainty. We're 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:25.500 not here to pretend like we've learned it all 00:00:25.500 --> 00:00:28.440 together. We're simply just figuring it out with 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:37.090 you. One and... Action! I was about to say good 00:00:37.090 --> 00:00:41.130 morning. It's actually the evening. But hello 00:00:41.130 --> 00:00:43.630 everyone! Hello our favourite people ever! I'm 00:00:43.630 --> 00:00:46.390 so excited to be back! It actually just feels 00:00:46.390 --> 00:00:51.539 so good to... to be back and after so so long 00:00:51.539 --> 00:00:54.539 guys we are so sorry that we haven't had an episode 00:00:54.539 --> 00:00:56.799 out. I think this is going to be a month. A month. 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:58.880 And that's terrible because we were so on track 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:02.079 but we have reasons. Life happened guys, life 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:06.359 happened. We had you go interstate and then Al. 00:01:06.650 --> 00:01:09.670 podcast producer went into state when we were 00:01:09.670 --> 00:01:12.370 planning on filming then we actually did film 00:01:12.370 --> 00:01:14.469 this exact episode that we're gonna film right 00:01:14.469 --> 00:01:17.390 now last week in roses bedroom and then look 00:01:17.390 --> 00:01:19.349 back at the recording and said absolutely not 00:01:19.349 --> 00:01:22.269 it was absolutely unfeasible like it was just 00:01:22.269 --> 00:01:26.430 beyond we had just woken up it was seven am like. 00:01:27.259 --> 00:01:30.000 The sound quality was terrible. Not only did 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:33.579 we look like absolute garbage, we sounded like 00:01:33.579 --> 00:01:35.959 absolute garbage. So we said no, we're gonna 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:38.700 unfortunately make them wait even longer. Yeah, 00:01:38.859 --> 00:01:42.680 but we're here. So our episode that we filmed 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:44.579 last week, which we're now filming this week, 00:01:45.099 --> 00:01:48.620 is... Why did I forget what it was? Oh my god, 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.340 dude. Yes, that's what it was. Is that not everything 00:01:52.340 --> 00:01:56.519 is like what it seems like it is online. It'll 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.459 sound something like that in the title. Here's 00:01:59.459 --> 00:02:02.700 your reminder that not everything is like what 00:02:02.700 --> 00:02:06.180 it seems online. Yes, and I think this is a really 00:02:06.180 --> 00:02:08.400 important thing to say because some people are 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.319 like, oh yeah, everyone online, like it's obvious, 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:17.699 but no. Genuinely, our online presence and our 00:02:17.699 --> 00:02:21.289 phones and social media influences us. Every 00:02:21.289 --> 00:02:24.009 single day we are on it every single day for 00:02:24.009 --> 00:02:26.330 a lot of people. It's the first thing that they 00:02:26.330 --> 00:02:28.629 Use in the morning and it's the last thing that 00:02:28.629 --> 00:02:30.569 they use in the evening before that They go to 00:02:30.569 --> 00:02:33.330 bed and it can really set us up for the day or 00:02:33.330 --> 00:02:38.069 set us up for ending our day And it really impacts 00:02:38.069 --> 00:02:40.550 our mental health when we look at people online 00:02:40.550 --> 00:02:42.830 and we think oh my god their life It looks so 00:02:42.830 --> 00:02:45.750 perfect. They look so perfect. Why is my life 00:02:45.750 --> 00:02:48.030 not like that? You question things and you're 00:02:48.030 --> 00:02:53.199 like well Am I not enough like why why why do 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:55.599 I have the life that I have and they have the 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:58.659 life that they have but it's not actually what 00:02:58.659 --> 00:03:02.780 it seems to be. No and even as people I'm I'd 00:03:02.780 --> 00:03:04.759 say I'm someone who doesn't get that bothered 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:07.900 by things like this online all the time I'm aware 00:03:07.900 --> 00:03:11.620 of the fact that life people's lives or things 00:03:11.620 --> 00:03:14.000 that are shown online aren't always the truth 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:16.819 it still affects me so that just goes to show 00:03:16.819 --> 00:03:21.830 that. It has an effect on everyone regardless 00:03:21.830 --> 00:03:24.930 of how big or small it may seem But a lot of 00:03:24.930 --> 00:03:28.289 it is also subconscious, right? It's like sometimes 00:03:28.289 --> 00:03:30.289 you may not actually think you're having a reaction 00:03:30.289 --> 00:03:32.849 to something but when you look at something or 00:03:32.849 --> 00:03:35.830 an influencer or even a friend and you see that 00:03:35.830 --> 00:03:39.300 they're, you know living their life in Ibiza, 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:42.560 or on the Bahamas, or if they look a certain 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:46.280 way, subconsciously, psychologically, like something 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:49.139 goes off in your brain where it's like, oh, they 00:03:49.139 --> 00:03:52.400 look amazing, or wow, I wish I was there right 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:56.919 now, but instead I'm here in the wintertime, 00:03:57.460 --> 00:03:59.659 sitting on the toilet at home, questioning my 00:03:59.659 --> 00:04:03.699 life. Like a lot of the time, it is the case. 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:07.199 We got inspiration from this episode which we 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.060 said at the time that we film the episode it 00:04:09.060 --> 00:04:11.360 was the day the morning after we had gone for 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.240 dinner with a friend of ours and she had mentioned 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:15.919 how i don't know how this topic came up and we 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:17.560 won't even talking about the podcast but she 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:20.040 had was speaking about how she recently moved 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.819 to sydney shout out to you clare you listening 00:04:22.819 --> 00:04:28.180 to this to sydney and that she had been experiencing 00:04:28.180 --> 00:04:32.420 you know some photos and. pictures and stuff 00:04:32.420 --> 00:04:35.540 from you know a very heavy Australian day long 00:04:35.540 --> 00:04:39.339 weekend um from her friends back home when in 00:04:39.339 --> 00:04:43.860 reality like it may not she goes I know that 00:04:43.860 --> 00:04:45.860 if I was there it wouldn't have been all that 00:04:45.860 --> 00:04:48.620 but now that I'm here and seeing it through the 00:04:48.620 --> 00:04:50.600 screen it still affects me and it got my mind 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:52.540 thinking like I literally got home and said to 00:04:52.540 --> 00:04:53.899 Rose that night like I think this would be a 00:04:53.899 --> 00:04:57.139 really good episode. I think I want to start 00:04:57.139 --> 00:05:02.410 off by saying that social media is very much 00:05:02.410 --> 00:05:05.990 the curated self. It's very much the highlight 00:05:05.990 --> 00:05:09.910 reel of a person's life. Very rarely and actually 00:05:09.910 --> 00:05:13.639 now more often than not. Influences and people 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:16.079 online are starting to really open up about their 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.980 lives and about real life issues that they have. 00:05:20.699 --> 00:05:23.000 Sometimes you know I even saw a post the other 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:27.939 day of one of my favorite influences who I really 00:05:27.939 --> 00:05:30.360 admired and she posted a photo of her skin and 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:32.759 how she was struggling with acne. And that's 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:34.699 something that I've struggled with before and 00:05:34.699 --> 00:05:36.240 still struggle with and I was like oh my god 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:39.459 like I had no idea this person had acne like 00:05:39.459 --> 00:05:43.339 really really bad acne. um because all these 00:05:43.339 --> 00:05:47.240 years i thought you know stunning stunning perfect 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:50.279 skin like what's your skincare routine and it 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:52.079 can seem like such a small thing but i looked 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:55.459 at that person and i was like wow like You're 00:05:55.459 --> 00:05:58.540 here you're actually a human being you go through 00:05:58.540 --> 00:06:01.800 what i go through what you go through what a 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:06.019 lot of people. In this world to talk about as 00:06:06.019 --> 00:06:08.600 well yeah yeah and she opened up about it and 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:10.259 she was like guys i've been struggling with this 00:06:10.259 --> 00:06:13.560 over the last ten years been on and off accutane 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.720 been. You know going from doctor to doctor to 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.720 doctor said surgery as well to try and minimize 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:24.730 me because she's a big public figure. But. It 00:06:24.730 --> 00:06:27.709 just goes to show that like all these years I 00:06:27.709 --> 00:06:29.829 thought this person was something that they actually 00:06:29.829 --> 00:06:31.670 won't and she opened up about it she says you 00:06:31.670 --> 00:06:35.209 know what it is so exhausting to constantly post 00:06:35.209 --> 00:06:38.149 my curated self online because it's not the real 00:06:38.149 --> 00:06:40.949 me yes I may look good in that photo but you 00:06:40.949 --> 00:06:43.629 do realize that it's edited or that was the best 00:06:43.629 --> 00:06:47.129 photo that I took out of thousand. Yeah exactly 00:06:47.129 --> 00:06:49.709 we had yeah the other thing that I was gonna 00:06:49.709 --> 00:06:51.889 say is in the last episode that we filmed I'm 00:06:51.889 --> 00:06:54.259 gonna keep referring to it. Cause this is just 00:06:54.259 --> 00:06:57.600 a refresher from a refresher, but we had actually 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:01.180 touched on a couple ways that even us, we had 00:07:01.180 --> 00:07:03.480 done that in our own social media platforms. 00:07:03.500 --> 00:07:05.500 For example, this is a very social media, obviously 00:07:05.500 --> 00:07:09.399 heavy episode. Um, but I had said, actually, 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:11.079 I remember I had said in that episode, I said, 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:14.779 there is nothing wrong with having an Instagram 00:07:14.779 --> 00:07:17.579 or a social media that is your curated higher. 00:07:18.019 --> 00:07:22.569 I said, I will never change. putting up my little 00:07:22.569 --> 00:07:25.009 photo gallery. It's like my personal little museum 00:07:25.009 --> 00:07:27.230 of all the fun things that I do in my life. But 00:07:27.230 --> 00:07:29.430 I will also have no issue telling people that 00:07:29.430 --> 00:07:32.790 this is the fun moments, the one best photo out 00:07:32.790 --> 00:07:35.689 of the 800. The only time I've posted is when 00:07:35.689 --> 00:07:37.589 I've been traveling or when I've looked my best. 00:07:37.689 --> 00:07:39.430 And I won't stop doing that, but the problem 00:07:39.430 --> 00:07:41.970 is being honest about it. Like for example, we 00:07:41.970 --> 00:07:44.939 had touched on like... I had said with um, we 00:07:44.939 --> 00:07:47.180 said we wrote in the last one that what was you 00:07:47.180 --> 00:07:48.720 saying? I thought you were going to Superman. 00:07:49.060 --> 00:07:51.620 I was. Oh great. Yeah, I was. So like we had 00:07:51.620 --> 00:07:53.480 attended, I don't know if any of you guys saw, 00:07:53.540 --> 00:07:55.600 but we had attended a little Superman premiere. 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.920 Wasn't little, it was pretty huge. That was a 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:00.860 huge premiere. Anyways, it was a big Superman 00:08:00.860 --> 00:08:04.420 premiere in Sydney. We posted about it, super 00:08:04.420 --> 00:08:08.240 cool. But when people ask about it, I'm like, 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.060 yeah, it was really cool. We got invited by someone 00:08:10.060 --> 00:08:12.819 who got invited though. So we didn't personally 00:08:12.819 --> 00:08:16.160 get invited. We got invited by someone who got 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:19.019 invited that couldn't go, which yeah, okay, we 00:08:19.019 --> 00:08:20.779 were still invited. But my point is if someone 00:08:20.779 --> 00:08:23.240 had just seen that and got, oh my goodness, Rose 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:25.279 and Emanuella have such a cool life. They have 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:27.480 a podcast and they just got invited to the Superman 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:30.379 premiere. It's like, but we didn't think that 00:08:30.379 --> 00:08:32.159 I had a few people ask me, oh my God, how did 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:34.080 you get into the Superman premiere? Yeah. And 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.529 it's like, well, we've got invited through a 00:08:37.529 --> 00:08:39.490 third party and that's okay. Like it's fine. 00:08:39.669 --> 00:08:41.309 Like as long as you're honest about it i think 00:08:41.309 --> 00:08:43.230 that's the difference is that people nowadays 00:08:43.230 --> 00:08:45.549 just assume that everything is all sunshine and 00:08:45.549 --> 00:08:49.110 rainbows and all exactly and they take it for 00:08:49.110 --> 00:08:51.529 the truth and that's the biggest problem cuz 00:08:51.529 --> 00:08:54.009 then you know one side of people that the creators 00:08:54.009 --> 00:08:56.470 actually not being honest and then you got the 00:08:56.470 --> 00:08:58.710 other side of people taking things for the truth 00:08:58.710 --> 00:09:01.289 and it's just a recipe for disaster and comparison 00:09:01.289 --> 00:09:04.990 and and just bad thoughts and just yeah even 00:09:04.990 --> 00:09:07.230 if you'd even if it's not serious like it's still 00:09:07.230 --> 00:09:08.850 this little subconscious thing i said to rose 00:09:08.850 --> 00:09:10.909 all. the time, if I'm scrolling for hours, which 00:09:10.909 --> 00:09:15.590 happens, unfortunately, quite often, I've noticed 00:09:15.590 --> 00:09:18.990 my mental, like, I don't touchwood suffer from 00:09:18.990 --> 00:09:21.409 any mental health issues. But like, I realize 00:09:21.409 --> 00:09:24.070 I, I literally look at my screen, I'm like, what 00:09:24.070 --> 00:09:26.669 am I doing? This is so depressing. Like, I'm 00:09:26.669 --> 00:09:28.409 literally scrolling and scrolling and consuming 00:09:28.409 --> 00:09:31.710 so much content, so many negative and positive 00:09:31.710 --> 00:09:35.450 and the things that like, it's just a brain overload. 00:09:36.340 --> 00:09:38.500 And the moment I take a day off and I'm like 00:09:38.500 --> 00:09:40.320 you know what I'm not gonna be on my phone today 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:42.379 or if I really realized I've been at work and 00:09:42.379 --> 00:09:43.799 then had stuff to do at home and then have stuff 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:45.860 to do with the uni and then done stuff with the 00:09:45.860 --> 00:09:48.559 podcast all of a sudden my mind shift is like 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.700 wow yeah and that's all because I haven't done 00:09:51.700 --> 00:09:55.240 stuff online like yeah mad but that's the thing 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.899 I think everyone feels feels that way in the 00:09:57.899 --> 00:10:00.960 sense of like I actually don't know a single 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:04.279 time that I've had a doom scroll right and felt. 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:07.820 Amazing the world like no because you're constantly 00:10:07.820 --> 00:10:10.059 comparing yourself to people on tiktok oh my 00:10:10.059 --> 00:10:13.440 goodness i remember. When i was in my previous 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.519 relationship i remember on tiktok my whole feed 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:19.980 was like all these like relationship videos and 00:10:19.980 --> 00:10:22.460 people in love and i was really struggling in 00:10:22.460 --> 00:10:25.820 my last. Serious relationship with a lot of different 00:10:25.820 --> 00:10:29.519 things and seeing that the constant comparison 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:33.340 even if it wasn't like. that obvious to me at 00:10:33.340 --> 00:10:35.720 the beginning but it would impact me and I would 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:38.519 start being like but you know my partner doesn't 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:41.399 do this for me but in that video that's and you 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.940 start comparing and you're just like wait wait 00:10:43.940 --> 00:10:47.460 wait but but everyone's situation is different 00:10:47.460 --> 00:10:50.360 and your life is not their life and their life 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:53.019 is not your life if you see someone online having 00:10:53.019 --> 00:10:55.899 the perfect life and you know what most often 00:10:55.899 --> 00:10:59.559 than not people that post their perfect life 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.460 It's actually the complete opposite. I'll give 00:11:02.460 --> 00:11:05.799 you an example of a really good friend of mine. 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:12.519 This person is very, very well known and has 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.639 a very big social media presence. Lots of people 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:20.679 know this person and You would look at them and 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.320 you would be like oh my god this person is booking 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:26.460 so much work and i'm talking like more so in 00:11:26.460 --> 00:11:29.039 the entertainment industry right this person 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:32.259 is traveling going to l .a. meeting with all 00:11:32.259 --> 00:11:35.519 these people and managers and the careers taken 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:38.360 off and la la la like i would sit there and think 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:41.960 that absolutely night and i do but i know this 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.700 person on a personal level where i'm like. And 00:11:45.700 --> 00:11:47.980 they said this to me it's it's not what it seems 00:11:47.980 --> 00:11:51.220 like do you understand how depressed I am I have 00:11:51.220 --> 00:11:56.299 to post. just for the sake of posting, to keep 00:11:56.299 --> 00:11:59.500 the followers, to keep people engaged. Do I want 00:11:59.500 --> 00:12:02.320 to? No. Is this an adequate representation of 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:05.440 my life? No. And this person I'm saying has a 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:08.360 huge social media presence and a huge presence 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.360 in general. So hearing that from this person, 00:12:11.379 --> 00:12:13.159 I'm like, you know what? That's wild because 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:15.919 I would have never have gauged that from you. 00:12:16.139 --> 00:12:18.259 I know you want a deep personal level and I'm 00:12:18.259 --> 00:12:20.480 helping you through what you're going through. 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:23.340 And it's just so interesting. to me how it is 00:12:23.340 --> 00:12:26.159 completely not what it seems, completely not 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.840 what it seems. Even in my own, you know, and 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.720 I'm sure you'll say your personal story, Emanuella, 00:12:31.820 --> 00:12:35.519 but like even for me, I recently did a photo 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:40.860 shoot and it was a beautiful shoot and for a 00:12:40.860 --> 00:12:45.259 big designer in... Hong Kong like you'll see 00:12:45.259 --> 00:12:47.740 the photos on my Instagram like it's very flowy 00:12:47.740 --> 00:12:52.679 and angelic and princess like and the amount 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:55.919 of you know recognition I got from that and people 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:58.980 asking me like how did you like how did you get 00:12:58.980 --> 00:13:01.419 recognized or how did you book this shoot because 00:13:01.419 --> 00:13:03.220 I'm not like I don't I don't have a modeling 00:13:03.220 --> 00:13:07.759 agency or anything And looking at me being like 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.080 oh my god like you look absolutely insane like 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:14.240 you look like you're having the best time and 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:16.600 that day I remember I had a mental breakdown 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:18.539 in the morning because I was going through some 00:13:18.539 --> 00:13:21.899 personal stuff and like I was really anxious 00:13:21.899 --> 00:13:25.980 about a few things and I was trying to hold myself 00:13:25.980 --> 00:13:29.240 together throughout that whole experience and 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:33.169 it was Quite a lot for me. It was quite a lot 00:13:33.169 --> 00:13:35.750 for me. The shoot was amazing. The people were 00:13:35.750 --> 00:13:39.870 amazing. Everything was great, but My representation 00:13:39.870 --> 00:13:43.009 of that on my social media is not how I felt 00:13:43.009 --> 00:13:47.110 on the day. You know, I didn't feel That amazing 00:13:47.110 --> 00:13:49.330 about myself because of what I was going through 00:13:49.330 --> 00:13:52.350 and I'm can be vulnerable enough to share that 00:13:52.350 --> 00:13:54.049 right? It had nothing to do with anyone else, 00:13:54.070 --> 00:13:57.799 but myself But the amount of people being like 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:00.539 oh my god you look this and how did you do this 00:14:00.539 --> 00:14:03.799 and wow like I wish I did a shoot like and I'm 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.759 like dude if only you knew the real story behind 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.259 these photos. You would maybe think twice about 00:14:11.259 --> 00:14:13.539 what you're saying so never assume it is what 00:14:13.539 --> 00:14:16.240 it's like I'm sure you have the same story so 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:19.340 very similar I mean not so much about like this. 00:14:20.329 --> 00:14:23.250 the story behind the photos but even like something 00:14:23.250 --> 00:14:24.870 as simple as now that we're on the topic of modeling 00:14:24.870 --> 00:14:27.610 agencies i've had an agent now for the past three 00:14:27.610 --> 00:14:31.429 years and. I'm just gonna go out and say that 00:14:31.429 --> 00:14:34.830 they like they haven't done much for me if you 00:14:34.830 --> 00:14:37.529 were to go shocking shocking if you and the amount 00:14:37.529 --> 00:14:39.450 of bad experiences i've had the amount of photographers 00:14:39.450 --> 00:14:41.250 that have reached out to me going hey i have 00:14:41.250 --> 00:14:45.909 a i have a like. a young girl or a young guy 00:14:45.909 --> 00:14:47.929 that are interested in signing with the agency 00:14:47.929 --> 00:14:49.909 and we saw that you're with them because if you 00:14:49.909 --> 00:14:53.309 search like they're in my bio and we saw that 00:14:53.309 --> 00:14:55.289 you're with them like could you give us your 00:14:55.289 --> 00:14:58.169 opinion and I will be like yeah absolutely not 00:14:58.169 --> 00:15:01.870 do not go do not like do not the reason I have 00:15:01.870 --> 00:15:04.490 them there though is to get people like you know 00:15:04.490 --> 00:15:07.070 photographers being able to recognize that I 00:15:07.070 --> 00:15:09.210 am with an agent and that they can reach out 00:15:09.210 --> 00:15:12.149 to me if they want me to work for them so 99 00:15:12.149 --> 00:15:15.600 percent Of the work that i've posted on my social 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.340 media has actually been me going out and doing 00:15:18.340 --> 00:15:24.620 stuff myself finding stuff myself free. Not necessarily 00:15:24.620 --> 00:15:26.820 getting paid for all this stuff that i'm doing 00:15:26.820 --> 00:15:29.500 frequently like it's very much not the case but 00:15:29.500 --> 00:15:31.820 if you just had a you know one quick scroll through 00:15:31.820 --> 00:15:36.139 my page probably think i was. Say even just something 00:15:36.139 --> 00:15:38.519 small like that i'm trying to think of what other 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.840 situations i can. This is happened to in my life 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:44.419 but yeah like in general like i'm i will openly 00:15:44.419 --> 00:15:47.259 say i'm very much that person that i don't i 00:15:47.259 --> 00:15:49.559 wouldn't call myself an insecure person or any 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:51.419 of that sort of stuff but again like i like my 00:15:51.419 --> 00:15:54.299 little like digital museum of an instagram page 00:15:54.299 --> 00:15:56.639 so yes i am the person that will take eight hundred 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.860 photos and pick my favorite three absolutely 00:15:58.860 --> 00:16:03.409 i have done that so. Yeah, I guess the whole 00:16:03.409 --> 00:16:05.269 point of this episode is just please don't - 00:16:05.269 --> 00:16:07.769 I also think no matter how confident you are, 00:16:08.009 --> 00:16:10.509 or no matter whether you struggle with mental 00:16:10.509 --> 00:16:13.210 health or not, everybody's insecure. Everybody's 00:16:13.210 --> 00:16:15.610 insecure to an extent, and when we want to post 00:16:15.610 --> 00:16:18.009 something, we want to look and feel our best, 00:16:18.029 --> 00:16:20.049 right? Oh yeah, I'm posting a photo where my 00:16:20.049 --> 00:16:22.690 eyes are rolling to the left side and my mouth's 00:16:22.690 --> 00:16:24.929 open and my leg's up here, or you can see the 00:16:24.929 --> 00:16:27.149 hair, like I'm not doing that, but that's just 00:16:27.149 --> 00:16:29.070 because I don't know, I just don't want to, like 00:16:29.070 --> 00:16:31.129 it's not - Because you don't feel your best in 00:16:31.129 --> 00:16:34.909 those photos. Yeah, exactly. And that's very, 00:16:34.909 --> 00:16:38.129 very normal. But the problem is that people can 00:16:38.129 --> 00:16:40.370 very easily fall back into the trap of remembering 00:16:40.370 --> 00:16:45.850 that that's not the full truth. Yeah. I think 00:16:45.850 --> 00:16:48.149 we were all we also touched on in the last time 00:16:48.149 --> 00:16:50.830 we tried filming this about remember that night, 00:16:51.110 --> 00:16:52.649 the night that we were talking about filming 00:16:52.649 --> 00:16:55.549 this episode. And I told you that I knew a girl 00:16:55.549 --> 00:16:58.440 and you said you knew her. Like I saw a girl 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:00.179 online and you said you knew her and she looked 00:17:00.179 --> 00:17:02.559 nothing like that. Oh my god yes yes yes it's 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:05.980 so interesting because um uh literally the night 00:17:05.980 --> 00:17:08.200 this is what kind of also sparked us to film 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:11.660 this because um Emanuella was like looking through 00:17:11.660 --> 00:17:13.579 Instagram and we were having a sleepover so I 00:17:13.579 --> 00:17:15.180 was on my phone we were just like kind of co 00:17:15.180 --> 00:17:19.119 -existing um and I looked at her phone she looked 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:20.859 at my phone she was scrolling and I go oh my 00:17:20.859 --> 00:17:22.839 gosh I know that girl like I've never met her 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.359 but I know a friend who knows her like yeah cool 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:28.400 and I was like how do you and I was like I like 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:32.299 I used to go to school with her la la la um and 00:17:32.299 --> 00:17:35.839 I was like that is so weird because this person 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:38.220 looks nothing I was just commenting on how she 00:17:38.220 --> 00:17:40.160 was a very pretty pretty person like Emanuel 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:42.619 was saying a beautiful girl but this person looked 00:17:42.619 --> 00:17:47.339 nothing like that they do like in the photos 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:49.700 to who they are in person and in person they 00:17:49.700 --> 00:17:51.920 are beautiful beautiful you know if i would see 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:54.200 this person like no makeup like in their raw 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:57.519 environment gorgeous but they just sitting there 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:00.359 basing my opinion on someone i've never met yeah 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:02.319 over someone who literally went to school with 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:04.380 her and goes bro she looks nothing like nothing 00:18:04.380 --> 00:18:07.500 not better or worse just nothing just very very 00:18:07.500 --> 00:18:10.349 different um And it's it's interesting because 00:18:10.349 --> 00:18:12.670 i'm like like is it something that it's like 00:18:12.670 --> 00:18:16.750 really really curated and edited or i don't know 00:18:16.750 --> 00:18:18.849 it's clearly edited because this person looks 00:18:18.849 --> 00:18:22.529 nothing like what they post but it's i guess 00:18:22.529 --> 00:18:26.509 it's it's sad because i i really want to see 00:18:26.509 --> 00:18:29.599 more. People in their rawest form and I think 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:33.019 that should be less stigmatized like if I wanted 00:18:33.019 --> 00:18:35.700 to post a nice photo of myself Smiling with no 00:18:35.700 --> 00:18:38.119 makeup with some zits on my face. Maybe my legs 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:40.480 aren't shaved I should be able to do that without 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:43.180 being worried that someone's gonna zoom in exactly 00:18:43.180 --> 00:18:46.960 because that's me, but that's me we know that 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:49.059 that's what happens which is subconsciously why 00:18:49.059 --> 00:18:51.720 people tend to Be the way they are with their 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:53.660 social media presence and not say that's good 00:18:53.660 --> 00:18:55.259 or bad We're literally saying we're in the same 00:18:55.259 --> 00:18:57.309 position as you guys even as people that may 00:18:57.309 --> 00:19:01.230 not take it full on seriously. But it's just, 00:19:01.410 --> 00:19:03.549 I think the whole thing, I think the way to mitigate 00:19:03.549 --> 00:19:07.710 the consequences of the social media landscape 00:19:07.710 --> 00:19:11.029 is just to acknowledge, number one, that it's 00:19:11.029 --> 00:19:14.569 not the full truth. And number two, to be like, 00:19:14.569 --> 00:19:18.230 you know, happy in yourself and be honest, like 00:19:18.230 --> 00:19:22.000 just be honest. Like if someone... Ask me anything 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:24.579 to do with any of my photos any of my pages and 00:19:24.579 --> 00:19:26.880 my top thing is to be related I am that person 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:29.000 that people pleases and like if someone goes, 00:19:29.180 --> 00:19:31.259 oh my gosh, you went to the Superman premiere 00:19:31.259 --> 00:19:33.079 the other day I'm like, oh, yeah I got invited 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:34.500 by someone who got in but like I feel like I 00:19:34.500 --> 00:19:36.339 have to over explain myself constantly where 00:19:36.339 --> 00:19:38.059 some people would just sit back and go Yeah, 00:19:38.059 --> 00:19:41.500 and that's where the problem is is that people 00:19:41.500 --> 00:19:43.440 nowadays are not open books and we need more 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:47.500 open books Yeah, direct on the open books. Yeah, 00:19:47.500 --> 00:19:50.559 it's it's hard though because Our generation 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.900 we we grow up in this full like social media 00:19:53.900 --> 00:19:56.900 landscape and and even with even with my job 00:19:56.900 --> 00:19:59.279 even with your job like in the modeling like 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:01.799 industry even with acting like so many people 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:05.579 look at social media now and they base base whether 00:20:05.579 --> 00:20:09.220 you book work or not of social media following 00:20:09.220 --> 00:20:13.089 we will literally. I was before I didn't even 00:20:13.089 --> 00:20:16.609 know that's a word that's like so crazy to me 00:20:16.609 --> 00:20:18.829 because i should be able to walk into a room 00:20:18.829 --> 00:20:22.509 do what i want to do present my scene or you 00:20:22.509 --> 00:20:25.710 know work with the director and you can judge 00:20:25.710 --> 00:20:29.769 me based off me in that moment and the talent. 00:20:30.700 --> 00:20:33.900 And whether I fit the character not because I've 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:35.400 got it because I've got a thousand followers 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:39.220 on Instagram and unfortunately I've gotten so 00:20:39.220 --> 00:20:42.940 close to booking roles where they've you know 00:20:42.940 --> 00:20:45.279 I get to the top two or the top three and they 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:47.859 go with the person that has a social media presence 00:20:47.859 --> 00:20:50.160 why because it's going to make the most money 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.759 right which sucks so now it's the same with modeling 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:55.480 I was literally just talking about this with 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:58.849 our podcast producers well today. Um, just before 00:20:58.849 --> 00:21:01.069 you came Rose, but we were talking about, like, 00:21:01.250 --> 00:21:05.589 even with, with modeling now, um, they actually 00:21:05.589 --> 00:21:08.829 make you put down your app. Yeah. Oh yeah. Same 00:21:08.829 --> 00:21:11.230 with writing your Instagram. And I'm like, what 00:21:11.230 --> 00:21:13.390 does that have to do with it? Like, no, I don't 00:21:13.390 --> 00:21:16.190 want to show you my 700 followers. Just fricking 00:21:16.190 --> 00:21:19.490 take me for who I am. You know? Yeah, it sucks, 00:21:19.490 --> 00:21:22.720 but it's also. about how you see it and how you 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.319 navigate it and look people can hate on social 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:30.940 media all they want but also if you use it as 00:21:30.940 --> 00:21:35.880 a highlight reel or whether you use it as a raw 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:38.900 file of yourself you know like if you want to 00:21:38.900 --> 00:21:41.140 put your skin on there and your acne to show 00:21:41.140 --> 00:21:45.339 people that you know what you're not alone I 00:21:45.339 --> 00:21:47.799 struggle with this too somebody with a big name 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:50.460 do it Because that's honestly what is going to 00:21:50.460 --> 00:21:55.019 change everything for young people and young 00:21:55.019 --> 00:22:00.339 people who are very driven by social media. And 00:22:00.339 --> 00:22:02.700 that is that is the life that we live now, whether 00:22:02.700 --> 00:22:06.210 you accept it or not, you know. AI is taking 00:22:06.210 --> 00:22:08.089 over, robots are taking over and that's just 00:22:08.089 --> 00:22:11.789 the landscape that we live in. So it's about 00:22:11.789 --> 00:22:15.109 how you navigate it and how you see it and I 00:22:15.109 --> 00:22:18.470 guess today's episode was just a reminder that 00:22:18.470 --> 00:22:21.029 it's not what it seems to be. We're not here 00:22:21.029 --> 00:22:24.250 to change your opinion or fix things or we're 00:22:24.250 --> 00:22:26.619 just here to be like, no, you know what? We are 00:22:26.619 --> 00:22:30.180 a culprit of this. Yeah. Here's our real life 00:22:30.180 --> 00:22:32.700 examples and he how he's how you should mitigate 00:22:32.700 --> 00:22:35.339 things that have helped us the things that we 00:22:35.339 --> 00:22:37.559 think you guys should know as people who are 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.259 in the in the pit of it at the moment. No matter 00:22:41.259 --> 00:22:44.940 how big or how small what scale. Yeah that's 00:22:44.940 --> 00:22:47.059 what scale is but yeah no matter how big or how 00:22:47.059 --> 00:22:50.980 small you are in it. Even if you're someone who 00:22:50.980 --> 00:22:53.039 doesn't post anything online and is purely a 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:54.900 consumer I can still have a mental effect even 00:22:54.900 --> 00:22:58.039 if you're just a consumer and then you know you're 00:22:58.039 --> 00:22:59.980 off social media but your life looks completely 00:22:59.980 --> 00:23:02.039 different to what you're posting online nothing 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:04.839 is as it seems don't take it all for the truth 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:06.839 not nothing some things are as they seem but 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:09.059 like a lot of it isn't and a lot of the stuff 00:23:09.059 --> 00:23:12.019 that isn't is what we like affect us. Yeah I 00:23:12.019 --> 00:23:14.200 think that's very well said I think we should 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:20.460 end it there yeah yeah okay well yeah. I think 00:23:20.460 --> 00:23:22.440 that was really upset that the last one didn't 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:24.359 work out because we really like the stuff we 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:26.460 said in it, but oh well it happened for a reason. 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:32.039 But please guys like anything you want to hear 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:33.920 please let us know we're really really happy 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:35.720 to be back. I think we say this in every episode. 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:38.420 We do, but I think it's good to reiterate because 00:23:38.420 --> 00:23:41.539 we're here to help you and we want you to tell 00:23:41.539 --> 00:23:44.000 us what you want to hear because at some point 00:23:44.619 --> 00:23:48.640 We'll run out of ideas. And I think we're planning 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.039 on having some guests on very soon. Yeah, so 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:53.039 stay tuned. Stay tuned. We're not gonna say much 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.279 more on that, but yeah. Anyways, we love you 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:59.180 guys. Love you. Sunday, because this will be 00:23:59.180 --> 00:24:01.119 up on Sunday. True, have a good Sunday, have 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:02.119 a good week.