Are you feeling lost? Well, you've come to the
right place. Welcome to Lostish, where we, Rose
Chachko, and Emmanuella Kathreptakis, share what
it's really like navigating your twenties. We're
two semi -lost girls figuring out careers, relationships,
wellness, purpose, and everything in between.
Each week we dive into the highs, the lows, and
lessons of chasing your dreams, finding happiness,
and learning to embrace the uncertainty. We're
not here to pretend like we've learned it all
together. We're simply just figuring it out with
you. One and... Action! I was about to say good
morning. It's actually the evening. But hello
everyone! Hello our favourite people ever! I'm
so excited to be back! It actually just feels
so good to... to be back and after so so long
guys we are so sorry that we haven't had an episode
out. I think this is going to be a month. A month.
And that's terrible because we were so on track
but we have reasons. Life happened guys, life
happened. We had you go interstate and then Al.
podcast producer went into state when we were
planning on filming then we actually did film
this exact episode that we're gonna film right
now last week in roses bedroom and then look
back at the recording and said absolutely not
it was absolutely unfeasible like it was just
beyond we had just woken up it was seven am like.
The sound quality was terrible. Not only did
we look like absolute garbage, we sounded like
absolute garbage. So we said no, we're gonna
unfortunately make them wait even longer. Yeah,
but we're here. So our episode that we filmed
last week, which we're now filming this week,
is... Why did I forget what it was? Oh my god,
dude. Yes, that's what it was. Is that not everything
is like what it seems like it is online. It'll
sound something like that in the title. Here's
your reminder that not everything is like what
it seems online. Yes, and I think this is a really
important thing to say because some people are
like, oh yeah, everyone online, like it's obvious,
but no. Genuinely, our online presence and our
phones and social media influences us. Every
single day we are on it every single day for
a lot of people. It's the first thing that they
Use in the morning and it's the last thing that
they use in the evening before that They go to
bed and it can really set us up for the day or
set us up for ending our day And it really impacts
our mental health when we look at people online
and we think oh my god their life It looks so
perfect. They look so perfect. Why is my life
not like that? You question things and you're
like well Am I not enough like why why why do
I have the life that I have and they have the
life that they have but it's not actually what
it seems to be. No and even as people I'm I'd
say I'm someone who doesn't get that bothered
by things like this online all the time I'm aware
of the fact that life people's lives or things
that are shown online aren't always the truth
it still affects me so that just goes to show
that. It has an effect on everyone regardless
of how big or small it may seem But a lot of
it is also subconscious, right? It's like sometimes
you may not actually think you're having a reaction
to something but when you look at something or
an influencer or even a friend and you see that
they're, you know living their life in Ibiza,
or on the Bahamas, or if they look a certain
way, subconsciously, psychologically, like something
goes off in your brain where it's like, oh, they
look amazing, or wow, I wish I was there right
now, but instead I'm here in the wintertime,
sitting on the toilet at home, questioning my
life. Like a lot of the time, it is the case.
We got inspiration from this episode which we
said at the time that we film the episode it
was the day the morning after we had gone for
dinner with a friend of ours and she had mentioned
how i don't know how this topic came up and we
won't even talking about the podcast but she
had was speaking about how she recently moved
to sydney shout out to you clare you listening
to this to sydney and that she had been experiencing
you know some photos and. pictures and stuff
from you know a very heavy Australian day long
weekend um from her friends back home when in
reality like it may not she goes I know that
if I was there it wouldn't have been all that
but now that I'm here and seeing it through the
screen it still affects me and it got my mind
thinking like I literally got home and said to
Rose that night like I think this would be a
really good episode. I think I want to start
off by saying that social media is very much
the curated self. It's very much the highlight
reel of a person's life. Very rarely and actually
now more often than not. Influences and people
online are starting to really open up about their
lives and about real life issues that they have.
Sometimes you know I even saw a post the other
day of one of my favorite influences who I really
admired and she posted a photo of her skin and
how she was struggling with acne. And that's
something that I've struggled with before and
still struggle with and I was like oh my god
like I had no idea this person had acne like
really really bad acne. um because all these
years i thought you know stunning stunning perfect
skin like what's your skincare routine and it
can seem like such a small thing but i looked
at that person and i was like wow like You're
here you're actually a human being you go through
what i go through what you go through what a
lot of people. In this world to talk about as
well yeah yeah and she opened up about it and
she was like guys i've been struggling with this
over the last ten years been on and off accutane
been. You know going from doctor to doctor to
doctor said surgery as well to try and minimize
me because she's a big public figure. But. It
just goes to show that like all these years I
thought this person was something that they actually
won't and she opened up about it she says you
know what it is so exhausting to constantly post
my curated self online because it's not the real
me yes I may look good in that photo but you
do realize that it's edited or that was the best
photo that I took out of thousand. Yeah exactly
we had yeah the other thing that I was gonna
say is in the last episode that we filmed I'm
gonna keep referring to it. Cause this is just
a refresher from a refresher, but we had actually
touched on a couple ways that even us, we had
done that in our own social media platforms.
For example, this is a very social media, obviously
heavy episode. Um, but I had said, actually,
I remember I had said in that episode, I said,
there is nothing wrong with having an Instagram
or a social media that is your curated higher.
I said, I will never change. putting up my little
photo gallery. It's like my personal little museum
of all the fun things that I do in my life. But
I will also have no issue telling people that
this is the fun moments, the one best photo out
of the 800. The only time I've posted is when
I've been traveling or when I've looked my best.
And I won't stop doing that, but the problem
is being honest about it. Like for example, we
had touched on like... I had said with um, we
said we wrote in the last one that what was you
saying? I thought you were going to Superman.
I was. Oh great. Yeah, I was. So like we had
attended, I don't know if any of you guys saw,
but we had attended a little Superman premiere.
Wasn't little, it was pretty huge. That was a
huge premiere. Anyways, it was a big Superman
premiere in Sydney. We posted about it, super
cool. But when people ask about it, I'm like,
yeah, it was really cool. We got invited by someone
who got invited though. So we didn't personally
get invited. We got invited by someone who got
invited that couldn't go, which yeah, okay, we
were still invited. But my point is if someone
had just seen that and got, oh my goodness, Rose
and Emanuella have such a cool life. They have
a podcast and they just got invited to the Superman
premiere. It's like, but we didn't think that
I had a few people ask me, oh my God, how did
you get into the Superman premiere? Yeah. And
it's like, well, we've got invited through a
third party and that's okay. Like it's fine.
Like as long as you're honest about it i think
that's the difference is that people nowadays
just assume that everything is all sunshine and
rainbows and all exactly and they take it for
the truth and that's the biggest problem cuz
then you know one side of people that the creators
actually not being honest and then you got the
other side of people taking things for the truth
and it's just a recipe for disaster and comparison
and and just bad thoughts and just yeah even
if you'd even if it's not serious like it's still
this little subconscious thing i said to rose
all. the time, if I'm scrolling for hours, which
happens, unfortunately, quite often, I've noticed
my mental, like, I don't touchwood suffer from
any mental health issues. But like, I realize
I, I literally look at my screen, I'm like, what
am I doing? This is so depressing. Like, I'm
literally scrolling and scrolling and consuming
so much content, so many negative and positive
and the things that like, it's just a brain overload.
And the moment I take a day off and I'm like
you know what I'm not gonna be on my phone today
or if I really realized I've been at work and
then had stuff to do at home and then have stuff
to do with the uni and then done stuff with the
podcast all of a sudden my mind shift is like
wow yeah and that's all because I haven't done
stuff online like yeah mad but that's the thing
I think everyone feels feels that way in the
sense of like I actually don't know a single
time that I've had a doom scroll right and felt.
Amazing the world like no because you're constantly
comparing yourself to people on tiktok oh my
goodness i remember. When i was in my previous
relationship i remember on tiktok my whole feed
was like all these like relationship videos and
people in love and i was really struggling in
my last. Serious relationship with a lot of different
things and seeing that the constant comparison
even if it wasn't like. that obvious to me at
the beginning but it would impact me and I would
start being like but you know my partner doesn't
do this for me but in that video that's and you
start comparing and you're just like wait wait
wait but but everyone's situation is different
and your life is not their life and their life
is not your life if you see someone online having
the perfect life and you know what most often
than not people that post their perfect life
It's actually the complete opposite. I'll give
you an example of a really good friend of mine.
This person is very, very well known and has
a very big social media presence. Lots of people
know this person and You would look at them and
you would be like oh my god this person is booking
so much work and i'm talking like more so in
the entertainment industry right this person
is traveling going to l .a. meeting with all
these people and managers and the careers taken
off and la la la like i would sit there and think
that absolutely night and i do but i know this
person on a personal level where i'm like. And
they said this to me it's it's not what it seems
like do you understand how depressed I am I have
to post. just for the sake of posting, to keep
the followers, to keep people engaged. Do I want
to? No. Is this an adequate representation of
my life? No. And this person I'm saying has a
huge social media presence and a huge presence
in general. So hearing that from this person,
I'm like, you know what? That's wild because
I would have never have gauged that from you.
I know you want a deep personal level and I'm
helping you through what you're going through.
And it's just so interesting. to me how it is
completely not what it seems, completely not
what it seems. Even in my own, you know, and
I'm sure you'll say your personal story, Emanuella,
but like even for me, I recently did a photo
shoot and it was a beautiful shoot and for a
big designer in... Hong Kong like you'll see
the photos on my Instagram like it's very flowy
and angelic and princess like and the amount
of you know recognition I got from that and people
asking me like how did you like how did you get
recognized or how did you book this shoot because
I'm not like I don't I don't have a modeling
agency or anything And looking at me being like
oh my god like you look absolutely insane like
you look like you're having the best time and
that day I remember I had a mental breakdown
in the morning because I was going through some
personal stuff and like I was really anxious
about a few things and I was trying to hold myself
together throughout that whole experience and
it was Quite a lot for me. It was quite a lot
for me. The shoot was amazing. The people were
amazing. Everything was great, but My representation
of that on my social media is not how I felt
on the day. You know, I didn't feel That amazing
about myself because of what I was going through
and I'm can be vulnerable enough to share that
right? It had nothing to do with anyone else,
but myself But the amount of people being like
oh my god you look this and how did you do this
and wow like I wish I did a shoot like and I'm
like dude if only you knew the real story behind
these photos. You would maybe think twice about
what you're saying so never assume it is what
it's like I'm sure you have the same story so
very similar I mean not so much about like this.
the story behind the photos but even like something
as simple as now that we're on the topic of modeling
agencies i've had an agent now for the past three
years and. I'm just gonna go out and say that
they like they haven't done much for me if you
were to go shocking shocking if you and the amount
of bad experiences i've had the amount of photographers
that have reached out to me going hey i have
a i have a like. a young girl or a young guy
that are interested in signing with the agency
and we saw that you're with them because if you
search like they're in my bio and we saw that
you're with them like could you give us your
opinion and I will be like yeah absolutely not
do not go do not like do not the reason I have
them there though is to get people like you know
photographers being able to recognize that I
am with an agent and that they can reach out
to me if they want me to work for them so 99
percent Of the work that i've posted on my social
media has actually been me going out and doing
stuff myself finding stuff myself free. Not necessarily
getting paid for all this stuff that i'm doing
frequently like it's very much not the case but
if you just had a you know one quick scroll through
my page probably think i was. Say even just something
small like that i'm trying to think of what other
situations i can. This is happened to in my life
but yeah like in general like i'm i will openly
say i'm very much that person that i don't i
wouldn't call myself an insecure person or any
of that sort of stuff but again like i like my
little like digital museum of an instagram page
so yes i am the person that will take eight hundred
photos and pick my favorite three absolutely
i have done that so. Yeah, I guess the whole
point of this episode is just please don't -
I also think no matter how confident you are,
or no matter whether you struggle with mental
health or not, everybody's insecure. Everybody's
insecure to an extent, and when we want to post
something, we want to look and feel our best,
right? Oh yeah, I'm posting a photo where my
eyes are rolling to the left side and my mouth's
open and my leg's up here, or you can see the
hair, like I'm not doing that, but that's just
because I don't know, I just don't want to, like
it's not - Because you don't feel your best in
those photos. Yeah, exactly. And that's very,
very normal. But the problem is that people can
very easily fall back into the trap of remembering
that that's not the full truth. Yeah. I think
we were all we also touched on in the last time
we tried filming this about remember that night,
the night that we were talking about filming
this episode. And I told you that I knew a girl
and you said you knew her. Like I saw a girl
online and you said you knew her and she looked
nothing like that. Oh my god yes yes yes it's
so interesting because um uh literally the night
this is what kind of also sparked us to film
this because um Emanuella was like looking through
Instagram and we were having a sleepover so I
was on my phone we were just like kind of co
-existing um and I looked at her phone she looked
at my phone she was scrolling and I go oh my
gosh I know that girl like I've never met her
but I know a friend who knows her like yeah cool
and I was like how do you and I was like I like
I used to go to school with her la la la um and
I was like that is so weird because this person
looks nothing I was just commenting on how she
was a very pretty pretty person like Emanuel
was saying a beautiful girl but this person looked
nothing like that they do like in the photos
to who they are in person and in person they
are beautiful beautiful you know if i would see
this person like no makeup like in their raw
environment gorgeous but they just sitting there
basing my opinion on someone i've never met yeah
over someone who literally went to school with
her and goes bro she looks nothing like nothing
not better or worse just nothing just very very
different um And it's it's interesting because
i'm like like is it something that it's like
really really curated and edited or i don't know
it's clearly edited because this person looks
nothing like what they post but it's i guess
it's it's sad because i i really want to see
more. People in their rawest form and I think
that should be less stigmatized like if I wanted
to post a nice photo of myself Smiling with no
makeup with some zits on my face. Maybe my legs
aren't shaved I should be able to do that without
being worried that someone's gonna zoom in exactly
because that's me, but that's me we know that
that's what happens which is subconsciously why
people tend to Be the way they are with their
social media presence and not say that's good
or bad We're literally saying we're in the same
position as you guys even as people that may
not take it full on seriously. But it's just,
I think the whole thing, I think the way to mitigate
the consequences of the social media landscape
is just to acknowledge, number one, that it's
not the full truth. And number two, to be like,
you know, happy in yourself and be honest, like
just be honest. Like if someone... Ask me anything
to do with any of my photos any of my pages and
my top thing is to be related I am that person
that people pleases and like if someone goes,
oh my gosh, you went to the Superman premiere
the other day I'm like, oh, yeah I got invited
by someone who got in but like I feel like I
have to over explain myself constantly where
some people would just sit back and go Yeah,
and that's where the problem is is that people
nowadays are not open books and we need more
open books Yeah, direct on the open books. Yeah,
it's it's hard though because Our generation
we we grow up in this full like social media
landscape and and even with even with my job
even with your job like in the modeling like
industry even with acting like so many people
look at social media now and they base base whether
you book work or not of social media following
we will literally. I was before I didn't even
know that's a word that's like so crazy to me
because i should be able to walk into a room
do what i want to do present my scene or you
know work with the director and you can judge
me based off me in that moment and the talent.
And whether I fit the character not because I've
got it because I've got a thousand followers
on Instagram and unfortunately I've gotten so
close to booking roles where they've you know
I get to the top two or the top three and they
go with the person that has a social media presence
why because it's going to make the most money
right which sucks so now it's the same with modeling
I was literally just talking about this with
our podcast producers well today. Um, just before
you came Rose, but we were talking about, like,
even with, with modeling now, um, they actually
make you put down your app. Yeah. Oh yeah. Same
with writing your Instagram. And I'm like, what
does that have to do with it? Like, no, I don't
want to show you my 700 followers. Just fricking
take me for who I am. You know? Yeah, it sucks,
but it's also. about how you see it and how you
navigate it and look people can hate on social
media all they want but also if you use it as
a highlight reel or whether you use it as a raw
file of yourself you know like if you want to
put your skin on there and your acne to show
people that you know what you're not alone I
struggle with this too somebody with a big name
do it Because that's honestly what is going to
change everything for young people and young
people who are very driven by social media. And
that is that is the life that we live now, whether
you accept it or not, you know. AI is taking
over, robots are taking over and that's just
the landscape that we live in. So it's about
how you navigate it and how you see it and I
guess today's episode was just a reminder that
it's not what it seems to be. We're not here
to change your opinion or fix things or we're
just here to be like, no, you know what? We are
a culprit of this. Yeah. Here's our real life
examples and he how he's how you should mitigate
things that have helped us the things that we
think you guys should know as people who are
in the in the pit of it at the moment. No matter
how big or how small what scale. Yeah that's
what scale is but yeah no matter how big or how
small you are in it. Even if you're someone who
doesn't post anything online and is purely a
consumer I can still have a mental effect even
if you're just a consumer and then you know you're
off social media but your life looks completely
different to what you're posting online nothing
is as it seems don't take it all for the truth
not nothing some things are as they seem but
like a lot of it isn't and a lot of the stuff
that isn't is what we like affect us. Yeah I
think that's very well said I think we should
end it there yeah yeah okay well yeah. I think
that was really upset that the last one didn't
work out because we really like the stuff we
said in it, but oh well it happened for a reason.
But please guys like anything you want to hear
please let us know we're really really happy
to be back. I think we say this in every episode.
We do, but I think it's good to reiterate because
we're here to help you and we want you to tell
us what you want to hear because at some point
We'll run out of ideas. And I think we're planning
on having some guests on very soon. Yeah, so
stay tuned. Stay tuned. We're not gonna say much
more on that, but yeah. Anyways, we love you
guys. Love you. Sunday, because this will be
up on Sunday. True, have a good Sunday, have
a good week.