WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.799 Are you feeling lost? Well, you've come to the 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:05.559 right place. Welcome to Lostish, where we, Rose 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:07.980 Chachko and Emmanuella Kathreptakis share 00:00:07.980 --> 00:00:10.160 what it's really like navigating your twenties. 00:00:10.339 --> 00:00:12.880 We're two semi -lost girls figuring out careers, 00:00:13.300 --> 00:00:15.779 relationships, wellness, purpose, and everything 00:00:15.779 --> 00:00:18.120 in between. Each week, we dive into the highs, 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:20.600 the lows, and the lessons of chasing your dreams, 00:00:20.820 --> 00:00:23.019 finding happiness, and learning to embrace the 00:00:23.019 --> 00:00:25.160 uncertainty. We're not here to pretend like we've 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:27.719 loaded all together. We're simply just figuring 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:32.659 it out with you. Hello, guys. One and welcome 00:00:32.659 --> 00:00:39.460 back to the Lostish podcast! So we have our very 00:00:39.460 --> 00:00:43.159 first special guest on the pod today. Yes a very 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:46.240 very special guest Somebody who I have known 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:50.979 for literally a decade my best friend the wonderful 00:00:50.979 --> 00:00:59.100 actress superstar Sophea Pennington So Phe and 00:00:59.100 --> 00:01:01.759 I have known each other for many many years now 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:06.099 and you also may recognize her from a few shows 00:01:06.409 --> 00:01:10.810 She has done many, many things and some include 00:01:10.810 --> 00:01:15.569 Lacey on Home and Away. She has been a part of 00:01:15.569 --> 00:01:19.609 The Deb, which is Rebel Wilson's film that premiered 00:01:19.609 --> 00:01:22.849 at TIFF last year. And you may also recognize 00:01:22.849 --> 00:01:26.049 her from Channel 7's Roast Night. But most of 00:01:26.049 --> 00:01:30.569 you will know her from Home and Away. And she's 00:01:30.569 --> 00:01:34.900 here with us today to talk everything about Acting, 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:38.519 relationships, lifestyle, mental health. She's 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.319 here to answer all the tea. Which we know is 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:44.060 something that you guys have been wanting for 00:01:44.060 --> 00:01:46.219 a while and we've been wanting a guest on for 00:01:46.219 --> 00:01:48.540 a while. So we thought who better? Who better 00:01:48.540 --> 00:01:52.099 than the one and only Sophia Pennington. Yay! 00:01:52.540 --> 00:01:54.900 Thank you guys so much for having me. I'm so 00:01:54.900 --> 00:01:57.299 excited to be here. I've been wanting to - We've 00:01:57.299 --> 00:01:59.510 been trying to coordinate for way too long. I 00:01:59.510 --> 00:02:01.590 know, the second Rose told me that she was doing 00:02:01.590 --> 00:02:04.310 a podcast, I was like, get me on one day. And 00:02:04.310 --> 00:02:06.269 then the day came and I was like, whoa, I'm actually 00:02:06.269 --> 00:02:08.509 feeling a bit nervous. I was like, this is my 00:02:08.509 --> 00:02:12.090 first podcast I've ever spoken on ever. So it's 00:02:12.090 --> 00:02:14.849 not the last, it's not the last, but we can claim, 00:02:15.050 --> 00:02:19.550 we can claim that Fia has been on Lostish and 00:02:19.550 --> 00:02:21.569 that's her first podcast, which is a big claim 00:02:21.569 --> 00:02:24.990 to make. But yeah, no, we are so excited to have 00:02:24.990 --> 00:02:27.770 you Fia and it's been a long time coming. And 00:02:27.770 --> 00:02:30.860 you know what? I reckon, I reckon, okay, I'm 00:02:30.860 --> 00:02:33.259 gonna give a little introduction on how we kind 00:02:33.259 --> 00:02:36.319 of met, how I know you, and then we're gonna 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:41.949 lead into the yummy stuff. Phe and I have known 00:02:41.949 --> 00:02:43.729 each other for a very long time. We've known 00:02:43.729 --> 00:02:46.789 each other for about like 10 years, nine years. 00:02:47.389 --> 00:02:50.349 Now it will be 10 years next year, I think. And 00:02:50.349 --> 00:02:53.229 we met in America doing an acting program and 00:02:53.229 --> 00:02:56.870 we just like hit it off straight away. Phe lived 00:02:56.870 --> 00:02:59.409 in Singapore at the time. I obviously lived in 00:02:59.409 --> 00:03:03.509 Sydney and we lost contact for a few years and 00:03:03.509 --> 00:03:06.030 then got back into contact. But we've always 00:03:06.030 --> 00:03:08.729 kind of always been in each other. other's lives 00:03:08.729 --> 00:03:12.949 and then we both met each other at drama school 00:03:12.949 --> 00:03:16.189 so we both got into the same course at NIDA and 00:03:16.189 --> 00:03:18.810 that was fate bringing us together again. 100 00:03:18.810 --> 00:03:22.650 % fate. 100 % 100 % fate and I remember you texting 00:03:22.650 --> 00:03:24.830 me being like did you get into NIDA and I was 00:03:24.830 --> 00:03:27.729 like yeah did you like I would before we even 00:03:27.729 --> 00:03:32.750 saw each other like it's actually a fate thing 00:03:32.750 --> 00:03:35.090 like it's a universe bringing us together. 100 00:03:35.090 --> 00:03:38.080 % I fully believe it. every single person that 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.080 comes into your life is part of your path. Oh 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:45.319 100 % season or lifetime. Yeah season or lifetime 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:50.219 for sure and yeah we've basically been on this 00:03:50.219 --> 00:03:53.099 kind of journey together where obviously Phe 00:03:53.099 --> 00:03:56.900 and I are both actors. Emanuela knows all about 00:03:56.900 --> 00:04:02.159 our troubles and our yes mental breakdowns when 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.419 it comes to the wild industry we're in but I 00:04:05.419 --> 00:04:08.240 kind of want to hand it over to you Phe and give 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:12.219 you a platform to give yourself a little introduction 00:04:12.219 --> 00:04:14.659 and tell us a little bit. That's not just acting 00:04:14.659 --> 00:04:16.879 related. Not acting related, everything related. 00:04:18.740 --> 00:04:22.259 Fun fact, anything. Okay, well, thank you for 00:04:22.259 --> 00:04:25.500 the intro. That was a beautiful intro. Yeah, 00:04:25.660 --> 00:04:31.000 my name's Sophia and I'm an actress and Rose's 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:37.509 best friend. But yeah, I mean, I think you explained 00:04:37.509 --> 00:04:39.870 it very well. We met a long time ago and we've 00:04:39.870 --> 00:04:41.670 kind of been in each other's lives for a while 00:04:41.670 --> 00:04:44.670 and now I've met the beautiful Emanuella. We 00:04:44.670 --> 00:04:47.350 did, at a sleepover. At a sleepover. Oh yeah, 00:04:47.569 --> 00:04:50.990 at a sleepover that... We ended up having a sleepover 00:04:50.990 --> 00:04:54.509 by mistake. Yeah, by mistake and once again fate. 00:04:55.290 --> 00:04:58.850 Once again fate. Yeah, but no, I've been in the 00:04:58.850 --> 00:05:00.730 arts for a very long time. I kind of started 00:05:00.730 --> 00:05:06.639 off in... Dance and like music singing then I 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.259 went into a bit of theater the musical theater 00:05:09.259 --> 00:05:12.779 And you did the sound of music the touring yeah, 00:05:12.779 --> 00:05:14.879 I did you the sound and music. Oh my goodness 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.720 I was like wow like 14 and the sound music like 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:20.620 the West End tour when they came to Singapore. 00:05:20.620 --> 00:05:25.259 I did that But always been fascinated by the 00:05:25.259 --> 00:05:27.639 arts and in the creative fields I will say I 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:29.839 think you have to be one of a kind to be in this 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:33.300 industry absolutely, but it is Rollercoaster 00:05:33.300 --> 00:05:35.980 but it's very rewarding. Yeah, and you love it. 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.459 Like I just know you love it so much I love it 00:05:38.459 --> 00:05:40.899 and you want you are not built to do anything 00:05:40.899 --> 00:05:46.519 else but this yeah, I'll tell you And I think 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.779 that like some people later on and I think that 00:05:49.779 --> 00:05:52.199 everyone's got a creative side to them 100 % 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:57.019 and I think that some people kind of No what 00:05:57.019 --> 00:05:59.259 they want to do at a very young age and some 00:05:59.259 --> 00:06:01.680 people kind of find it you know later on in life 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:04.579 but i think for me i've always i was always just 00:06:04.579 --> 00:06:09.420 attracted to. Telling stories and exploring humanity 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:20.259 and and all of that jazz so yeah. I'm more than 00:06:20.259 --> 00:06:22.319 happy sitting on the outskirts and being friends 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:25.939 with all of you. It's great. I feel like you're 00:06:25.939 --> 00:06:30.019 by default just a part of it because you have 00:06:30.019 --> 00:06:31.439 just seen so much of it. I am surrounded by a 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:33.600 lot of creative people and it's so fascinating 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.360 to watch. I mean, I am in like the media industry. 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:38.269 You are creative, yeah. creative industry. I've 00:06:38.269 --> 00:06:40.009 done about 50 different jobs in the creative 00:06:40.009 --> 00:06:43.250 industry. Acting is not one of them. We're all 00:06:43.250 --> 00:06:45.649 a bit batshit crazy. We're all a bit batshit 00:06:45.649 --> 00:06:49.230 crazy. We need an outlet to express ourselves 00:06:49.230 --> 00:06:52.529 and all the shit that life throws at us. It's 00:06:52.529 --> 00:06:54.569 alright, I'm okay to hear all your shit, guys. 00:06:55.470 --> 00:07:00.310 I'll make it. No, that's awesome. Yeah, you've 00:07:00.310 --> 00:07:02.509 been doing it for so long now and that's why 00:07:02.509 --> 00:07:05.089 you'd be the best person to talk to and I want 00:07:05.089 --> 00:07:08.600 to kind of you kind of answer this but Like what 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.399 kind of first drew you to acting and then what 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.120 kind of led you to do home in a way because that 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.439 was a big decision for you to make because there 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:18.199 were other things going on in your life. You 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:21.160 had just premiered the Deb with Rebel Wilson 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:26.860 in was it Toronto? Yeah. And you know, you had 00:07:26.860 --> 00:07:29.560 a lot of interest from that and it was kind of 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:32.399 all. Happening for you and then you booked home 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:34.180 in a way and you were like, oh my goodness Like 00:07:34.180 --> 00:07:37.920 what do I do? Like how do I go about this? So 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:40.519 yeah the kind of beginning journey for you What 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:45.160 made you first like start acting and then how 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:49.589 it is for you now on? Well how I got first started 00:07:49.589 --> 00:07:51.810 acting because a lot of people have asked me 00:07:51.810 --> 00:07:54.769 this question but like there's not necessarily 00:07:54.769 --> 00:07:57.269 specific answer like as I said since I was young 00:07:57.269 --> 00:08:00.209 I kind of was all you know I did the whole dance 00:08:00.209 --> 00:08:02.910 thing which I know a lot of people do but I do 00:08:02.910 --> 00:08:06.850 have one core memory of when I was in kindergarten 00:08:06.850 --> 00:08:08.870 and I couldn't get up in front of the class. 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:12.439 at all. Like I was, I had no confidence. I was 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.319 the most scared little girl in the world. And 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:17.680 so my mum decided to put me into speech and drama 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.920 lessons so I could start to speak to my friends 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:22.879 and make friends in class and to get up and say 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:25.519 my weekly news. We did that. Anyone else do that? 00:08:25.699 --> 00:08:27.959 I love that. Do you remember that? So because 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:29.839 I was so scared and I just refused to do it, 00:08:29.899 --> 00:08:32.360 like I wouldn't go to school. My mom was like, 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.720 let's put you into speech and drama lessons and 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.240 see if she can build some public speaking confidence. 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.159 So that's, yeah. So that's where it happened. 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:44.399 So she wasn't always a loud actor, drama kid. 00:08:44.820 --> 00:08:46.879 She had to be forced into it. I had to be forced 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:49.059 into it. My mom forced me into those classes. 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:51.600 Um, no, but then it's kind of started from there 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.860 and then I started speech and drama and I kind 00:08:54.860 --> 00:08:57.929 of found a love for that. But at the same time, 00:08:58.070 --> 00:09:00.610 I was also a dancer, I played piano, I sung. 00:09:01.669 --> 00:09:06.289 So I think performing really gave me a lot of 00:09:06.289 --> 00:09:09.850 fulfillment. And then that kind of, you know, 00:09:10.090 --> 00:09:12.850 dribbled into acting specifically. And I was 00:09:12.850 --> 00:09:17.419 honestly, until NIDA, I wasn't 100 % sure. if 00:09:17.419 --> 00:09:20.019 I wanted to do on -screen acting or stage acting 00:09:20.019 --> 00:09:22.840 or focus on music. But I think that's the beauty 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:26.039 of the creative field is that you can do it all 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:27.700 and you kind of just got to go with the flow. 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:30.980 That's actually very interesting. I fully agree. 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:36.539 Yeah. And even writing. So I think that's where 00:09:36.539 --> 00:09:40.940 it started for me. And then I would kind of do 00:09:40.940 --> 00:09:43.620 all the school productions and all of that kind 00:09:43.620 --> 00:09:49.299 of stuff. I just, I love to tell stories and 00:09:49.299 --> 00:09:52.799 express myself through that and sing and all 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:57.460 of that and perform. It's such an art. Can I 00:09:57.460 --> 00:10:00.360 just say when I look at actors, because I've 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:02.299 tried myself in the mirror from like a young 00:10:02.299 --> 00:10:04.899 age to like force myself to cry and see like, 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:09.200 I can't do it. So like looking at people in that 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:13.419 act is fascinating to me. Yeah anything I like 00:10:13.419 --> 00:10:17.620 I find it so fun where you can explore humanity 00:10:17.620 --> 00:10:21.320 of a character or a certain human being from 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:24.539 a certain period of time and bring your truth 00:10:24.539 --> 00:10:27.470 and yourself to it and just. Explore all of that 00:10:27.470 --> 00:10:29.870 cuz I mean I find human being so fascinating 00:10:29.870 --> 00:10:33.769 and emotions and and all of that and it's really 00:10:33.769 --> 00:10:36.809 psychology right it's really yeah the psychology 00:10:36.809 --> 00:10:39.370 of a human being and I think acting forces us 00:10:39.370 --> 00:10:42.929 to dissect the human brain so much as saying 00:10:42.929 --> 00:10:46.210 why am I feeling like this okay why is the character 00:10:46.210 --> 00:10:49.110 saying this in this particular moment why am 00:10:49.110 --> 00:10:53.230 I acting this way yeah a great acting teacher 00:10:53.230 --> 00:10:56.929 of ours les chanterie. always used to say this 00:10:56.929 --> 00:11:00.950 to us at drama school why now like why is the 00:11:00.950 --> 00:11:03.710 character saying this now why are you saying 00:11:03.710 --> 00:11:06.549 this now which is a really really important part 00:11:06.549 --> 00:11:09.629 of i think authentic storytelling is like why 00:11:09.629 --> 00:11:11.950 didn't the character say this two seconds ago 00:11:11.950 --> 00:11:15.049 why are they saying it in this moment and for 00:11:15.049 --> 00:11:18.230 you as lacy you obviously having conversations 00:11:18.230 --> 00:11:21.169 with you you feel so connected to her in a lot 00:11:21.169 --> 00:11:26.120 of ways and she forces you to bring out this 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:29.480 side of you that is really beautiful to see it's 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.320 that feisty it's that powerful that independent 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:34.940 woman you know who has been through so much in 00:11:34.940 --> 00:11:38.320 her life so what did it mean for you to book 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:42.899 a character like lacy. Booking place is actually 00:11:42.899 --> 00:11:45.679 really interesting story because when i first 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.389 got the brief for her. I just thought she was 00:11:48.389 --> 00:11:51.309 the most fun character ever. She's a river girl, 00:11:51.389 --> 00:11:54.809 she's a bad girl, she has a lot of edge. She's 00:11:54.809 --> 00:11:58.309 got a shit ton of trauma and been through so 00:11:58.309 --> 00:12:04.269 much and I kind of saw her as a version of myself 00:12:04.269 --> 00:12:08.210 that I would like to step into more. And usually 00:12:08.210 --> 00:12:12.870 when I do tapes and audition for things, a dream 00:12:12.870 --> 00:12:15.669 of mine or a goal of mine was to be able to step 00:12:15.669 --> 00:12:18.789 into a character like that with edge and is actually 00:12:18.789 --> 00:12:21.190 quite different to me and it's really interesting 00:12:21.190 --> 00:12:23.309 cuz i know a few people have said this to me 00:12:23.309 --> 00:12:27.230 in the cast like lacy. Is very different to sophia 00:12:27.230 --> 00:12:30.710 like she is and i feel like a lot of the time 00:12:30.710 --> 00:12:32.549 when you first kind of book your acting roles 00:12:32.549 --> 00:12:34.210 for the first time you can plan yourself have 00:12:34.210 --> 00:12:36.370 you heard of that like you know you're playing 00:12:36.370 --> 00:12:38.730 yourself and you bring a lot of truth but i found 00:12:38.730 --> 00:12:42.429 with lacy i've had to really be like no this 00:12:42.429 --> 00:12:45.480 is i'm playing so fear right now or am i. No, 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.440 backtrack. With Lacey, when I'm on set, I have 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:50.240 to kind of be like, is this what Lacey would 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:53.240 do or is this what Sophia would do? But it's 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:55.940 been so much fun for me to kind of explore a 00:12:55.940 --> 00:12:59.879 character that is different from me. And that 00:12:59.879 --> 00:13:01.759 was going to be my next question. How different 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:04.279 do you think you are from Lacey? Well, Lacey 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:08.759 has no filter. Like she is, she'll speak her 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.539 mind. She has a lot of edge to her. She's feisty, 00:13:11.659 --> 00:13:18.490 super independent. and she also has a lot of 00:13:18.490 --> 00:13:21.169 feistiness like a lot of feistiness and for me 00:13:21.169 --> 00:13:24.070 as I feel like I'm someone who is still working 00:13:24.070 --> 00:13:28.590 on speaking my truth all the time and just saying 00:13:28.590 --> 00:13:32.250 how I feel and finding that strength and that 00:13:32.250 --> 00:13:34.570 power and in conversations and things like that. 00:13:35.009 --> 00:13:36.370 So Lacey's like you'll fake it till you make 00:13:36.370 --> 00:13:39.009 it. She's like my alter ego. She's like my alter 00:13:39.009 --> 00:13:41.850 ego. Literally. So it's really cool and it's 00:13:41.850 --> 00:13:44.250 really fun and it's really empowering to play 00:13:44.250 --> 00:13:46.669 a character like that. It's really fucking empowering. 00:13:47.230 --> 00:13:51.429 Can I just say like Lacey has honestly I think 00:13:51.429 --> 00:13:54.210 brought actually a lot of light into your life. 00:13:54.549 --> 00:13:58.970 I think like you booked that role at such a crucial 00:13:58.970 --> 00:14:03.059 stage. Of your life and you can talk about that 00:14:03.059 --> 00:14:06.960 a bit more but a lot was happening you know you 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:10.340 were you obviously being recognized in america 00:14:10.340 --> 00:14:12.779 after t if you had the deb going on you also 00:14:12.779 --> 00:14:15.779 going through heartbreak and a lot of stuff in 00:14:15.779 --> 00:14:18.539 your a lot of things in your personal life and 00:14:18.539 --> 00:14:21.139 there was a lot of change there was a lot of 00:14:21.139 --> 00:14:25.509 change happening and. When i first audition for 00:14:25.509 --> 00:14:27.529 it i didn't actually think i did very well and 00:14:27.529 --> 00:14:29.629 i wasn't in a good headspace actually when i 00:14:29.629 --> 00:14:34.850 first did audition for lacy and then when i got. 00:14:35.070 --> 00:14:37.330 The chemistry rate it was actually the day that 00:14:37.330 --> 00:14:40.789 I was leaving to go to Toronto for Tiff and they 00:14:40.789 --> 00:14:43.289 had to move it a day earlier so I could go in 00:14:43.289 --> 00:14:45.370 and I think I was the first person that they 00:14:45.370 --> 00:14:48.129 saw and then when I went to Toronto I did Tiff 00:14:48.129 --> 00:14:51.429 and I went to New York and I woke up the morning 00:14:51.429 --> 00:14:55.409 after the dead premiere Tiff to the news that 00:14:55.409 --> 00:14:59.500 I booked Lacey. And I was shocked. And to be 00:14:59.500 --> 00:15:00.620 honest, I had a lot of - You were on FaceTime 00:15:00.620 --> 00:15:02.639 with me! I was on FaceTime with you and I had 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:04.399 a lot of imposter syndrome. I was like, what? 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:07.460 Because I thought that I did a really shit job. 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:09.600 And I've heard a lot about that with actors. 00:15:09.659 --> 00:15:11.720 Like I walked out and I was like, yeah, I flipped 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.500 that. Like, I didn't - You book it when you least 00:15:14.500 --> 00:15:16.580 expect it. You do book it when you least expect 00:15:16.580 --> 00:15:18.440 it. And I truly think that that's an energetical 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:24.200 thing. But making that decision to take the role 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:26.860 and embrace Lacey is one of the best things that 00:15:26.860 --> 00:15:29.830 - I've ever done. Yeah, so she's bought she's 00:15:29.830 --> 00:15:33.509 been very healing in my life in many ways. That's 00:15:33.509 --> 00:15:36.590 I That is so that's so beautiful. Yeah healing 00:15:36.590 --> 00:15:46.309 It's like this is why I love doing what I do 00:15:46.309 --> 00:15:50.519 so much is because it heals My inner child and 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:53.539 it's almost like that voice that I felt like 00:15:53.539 --> 00:15:56.500 was silenced for so long same with you right 00:15:56.500 --> 00:16:00.080 thing it's like we now have an outlet to express 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.580 that in another light and actually be commended 00:16:02.580 --> 00:16:07.879 for it and appreciated for it and same. Yeah 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:10.539 and it's just a really beautiful thing and seeing 00:16:10.539 --> 00:16:14.519 you flourish. Like through Lacey has just been 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:16.700 really beautiful and you actually mentioned something 00:16:16.700 --> 00:16:19.259 something really interesting about imposter syndrome. 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:21.340 Yeah, I want you to elaborate a little bit more 00:16:21.340 --> 00:16:24.059 about that because as actors even as non actors, 00:16:24.059 --> 00:16:26.460 I feel like you Emanuella face imposter syndrome 00:16:26.460 --> 00:16:28.679 all the time working in the field that where 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:31.059 whether it's modeling or social media or like 00:16:31.059 --> 00:16:34.600 at any point in your life. Well, yeah, what is 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:37.360 the definition of imposter syndrome? Is that 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.919 like a great question definition syndrome well 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:43.919 imposter syndrome is when you feel. When you 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:47.240 feel like an imposter in a space yet and you 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.240 feel like you don't belong or you feel like you're 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:52.200 not enough and you're surrounded by everyone 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:55.799 you kind of feel out of place or you know like 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:58.100 you don't deserve it all the success like there's 00:16:58.100 --> 00:17:00.200 a lot of things that goes into it for example 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.220 like when i was on set for the first time doing 00:17:03.220 --> 00:17:08.329 ten pound palms. I felt like a complete and i 00:17:08.329 --> 00:17:10.630 was like i'm surrounded by so many successful 00:17:10.630 --> 00:17:14.650 people who are big names like. And me little 00:17:14.650 --> 00:17:17.690 roses first acting job you know i'm like i felt 00:17:17.690 --> 00:17:20.849 like the biggest imposter but you know what every 00:17:20.849 --> 00:17:23.609 single person even the ones with the millions 00:17:23.609 --> 00:17:27.650 of followers the ones who are very renowned everyone 00:17:27.650 --> 00:17:29.809 feels like an imposter everyone goes through 00:17:29.809 --> 00:17:33.450 it everyone feels it and it's that we i think 00:17:33.450 --> 00:17:37.759 also. you know, trying to step into a place where 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.619 you've wanted to be for so long. And then it 00:17:40.619 --> 00:17:42.220 kind of all happening at once and all happening 00:17:42.220 --> 00:17:45.720 at full speed. You do get that effect. Like, 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.359 and you kind of like, wow, you know, like, as 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:49.980 you said, you felt it on 10 pound palms, like 00:17:49.980 --> 00:17:53.440 we all feel it. How did you navigate it? Like 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.579 that first day on set? That's important to talk 00:17:56.579 --> 00:17:58.940 about. I think even me and Rose just, I know 00:17:58.940 --> 00:18:00.980 it's about you, but me and Rose are also like, 00:18:01.639 --> 00:18:03.680 I think we're going to have that moment because 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.099 obviously now a lot of our listeners are like 00:18:06.099 --> 00:18:08.960 friends and family and if we ever do reach the 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:11.240 audience that we're hoping to reach, I think 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:13.579 we're going to have that same like shock feeling. 00:18:13.579 --> 00:18:18.759 Be like, what? Like, how do we navigate this? 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.400 So since you've been there, give people the goods. 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:23.920 Well, it's actually really interesting because 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:26.799 I had to come back. As I said, I was in New York 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.970 when I booked. Lacey and i had to fly back early 00:18:30.970 --> 00:18:33.609 cuz i was literally on set like a week later 00:18:33.609 --> 00:18:36.990 shooting that's also fast paced industry is like 00:18:36.990 --> 00:18:38.849 you can book something and be on set the next 00:18:38.849 --> 00:18:41.089 day so i pretty much have to drop everything 00:18:41.089 --> 00:18:43.549 get on an earlier flight and i went from the 00:18:43.549 --> 00:18:47.890 airport to the studio yeah that was my first 00:18:47.890 --> 00:18:52.480 day and i. because you know with jet lag and 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:54.380 getting off the flight and it was such an intense 00:18:54.380 --> 00:18:57.380 time I was kind of like what is going on going 00:18:57.380 --> 00:18:59.539 through the motions I was like I cannot believe 00:18:59.539 --> 00:19:03.299 I'm here this is incredible I'm so grateful and 00:19:03.299 --> 00:19:06.920 it was only kind of more into it that I was really 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:11.259 able to be like wow like I'm here and I deserve 00:19:11.259 --> 00:19:14.079 to be here and I think that's part of imposter 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:18.579 syndrome is that feeling of not feeling worthy. 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.680 to be there yet. So I had to really work with 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:24.440 myself and be like, no, I do deserve to be here. 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.839 I am worthy. I have worked very, very hard. And 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:29.940 all of these people who I've seen and I've looked 00:19:29.940 --> 00:19:32.960 up to are now my friends and my co -stars. And 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:35.799 that's really cool. And Home and Away is really 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:38.819 one big family. So they really helped me feel 00:19:38.819 --> 00:19:42.519 super belonged and just made me feel at home 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:44.759 there. And that is the best part about it is 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.079 the cast and the people at Home and Away, because 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:49.259 that's what made me. move out of that kind of 00:19:49.259 --> 00:19:53.960 feeling of imposter syndrome and comfortable. 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:58.140 Wow. I love that. I love cause it cause that 00:19:58.140 --> 00:20:01.420 actually doesn't happen often is you on set, 00:20:01.420 --> 00:20:05.500 you get a lot of different characters of like 00:20:05.500 --> 00:20:08.359 types of types of people, right? Even the crew 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:12.710 and a lot of the times like It's not one big 00:20:12.710 --> 00:20:14.789 family and there's a lot of ruckus and there's 00:20:14.789 --> 00:20:18.009 a lot of drama and gossip I guess like in every 00:20:18.009 --> 00:20:21.009 industry right and I just think it's really beautiful. 00:20:21.369 --> 00:20:25.369 Yeah, you know in life I think it's really beautiful 00:20:25.369 --> 00:20:28.349 that you found a second family within your home 00:20:28.349 --> 00:20:31.210 and away people and I've I've met a few of them 00:20:31.210 --> 00:20:34.170 and They are very very beautiful people and it's 00:20:34.170 --> 00:20:36.410 weird cuz like, you know I came in and home in 00:20:36.410 --> 00:20:38.849 a ways machine It's a machine we film every single 00:20:38.849 --> 00:20:42.549 day six days a week most of the time and the 00:20:42.549 --> 00:20:44.869 hours are insane and you know there's people 00:20:44.869 --> 00:20:47.349 coming in and out for sure but you're with each 00:20:47.349 --> 00:20:49.930 other all the time and i think having someone 00:20:49.930 --> 00:20:53.509 come into that is like just here you go here's 00:20:53.509 --> 00:20:55.529 another person to join your family whether you 00:20:55.529 --> 00:20:58.829 like them or not and the amount of love and warmth 00:20:58.829 --> 00:21:02.029 they got from everyone and how much everyone 00:21:02.029 --> 00:21:04.619 has been there and just picks everyone up. It's 00:21:04.619 --> 00:21:06.980 so supportive. It is so beautiful and I've said 00:21:06.980 --> 00:21:09.700 this before and I'm so grateful for everyone 00:21:09.700 --> 00:21:11.660 in that cast and I will say it again because 00:21:11.660 --> 00:21:15.200 it is really beautiful and I think being in an 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.019 environment and in a show like that and such 00:21:17.019 --> 00:21:22.619 a fast pace, being such a fast paced show, it's 00:21:22.619 --> 00:21:24.980 really important to have good people around you 00:21:24.980 --> 00:21:27.920 and to have that support. in any work it's important 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:31.759 like your work environment can diminish whether 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:34.720 you enjoy the job or not and especially in an 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.700 acting job where you're with them 24 7 and literally 00:21:37.700 --> 00:21:41.799 have to like portray characters to each other 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:45.200 in an intimate setting sometimes it's like yeah 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.440 it's very important that you do need to get along 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:50.839 with these people and build some sort of rapport 00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:56.309 relationship yeah Yeah, it applies in every workplace. 00:21:56.569 --> 00:21:58.990 I think, you know, in every situation in your 00:21:58.990 --> 00:22:01.990 life, the people around you really make an impact 00:22:01.990 --> 00:22:04.549 on how you overall are feeling. And it's so important 00:22:04.549 --> 00:22:05.990 that you're surrounding yourself with the right 00:22:05.990 --> 00:22:10.109 people and, you know, the energy that's around 00:22:10.109 --> 00:22:13.849 you. 100%. And I think that leads me to my next 00:22:13.849 --> 00:22:17.930 point is that mental health is a huge thing, 00:22:18.309 --> 00:22:21.190 right? We haven't spoken about mental health 00:22:21.190 --> 00:22:23.890 yet. No, not at all. And it's something that 00:22:23.890 --> 00:22:27.789 I feel very, very passionate about something 00:22:27.789 --> 00:22:29.609 that I've had to deal with in my life, something 00:22:29.609 --> 00:22:31.309 that I think we all have had to deal with in 00:22:31.309 --> 00:22:35.029 our lives at some stage. Um, yeah. And I want 00:22:35.029 --> 00:22:39.549 to ask you when it comes to your mental health 00:22:39.549 --> 00:22:43.630 and being on set and balancing the two and balancing 00:22:43.630 --> 00:22:46.630 your own personal life with your work life, because 00:22:46.630 --> 00:22:50.150 home in a way is such a huge commitment. Like 00:22:50.150 --> 00:22:54.740 you are. On set at 4 a .m. Working till 7 p .m. 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.160 Every single day, maybe you get one or two days 00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.220 off But in those one or two days off you're learning 00:22:59.220 --> 00:23:01.680 scripts or you're doing press or you're preparing 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:04.279 for the next scene. We're just trying to do my 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:11.400 washing Having to navigate people not now viewing 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:14.200 you as a normal human because now you're in the 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.660 spotlight So it's a lot of mental health toll. 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:22.059 Yeah I don't see myself as being the spotlight 00:23:22.059 --> 00:23:26.240 at all. I see what you do. I'm like, I'm just 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:29.619 a kid every day on set, just being a little kid 00:23:29.619 --> 00:23:32.400 every day. But yeah, I mean, that's a really 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:35.500 big question. That's a great question. I think, 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:41.099 look, I love my job. And I think that I'm very 00:23:41.099 --> 00:23:43.700 privileged to be able to be in such a beautiful 00:23:43.700 --> 00:23:46.960 position and be able to work my... dream every 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.859 day but I'm not gonna lie it is it's been a huge 00:23:49.859 --> 00:23:52.619 transition in my life a huge transition and I've 00:23:52.619 --> 00:23:54.980 had to navigate that and I've had some pretty 00:23:54.980 --> 00:23:57.319 incredible people around me to help with that 00:23:57.319 --> 00:23:59.859 but I think and it's funny that you asked me 00:23:59.859 --> 00:24:01.799 that because right now my character has been 00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:04.279 doing some pretty intense sad storylines as well. 00:24:04.619 --> 00:24:09.380 And I think as well when as an actor when you're 00:24:09.380 --> 00:24:12.319 every single day going in and you know you're 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:14.980 doing intense emotional storylines and you're 00:24:14.980 --> 00:24:17.640 getting to that place every day crying panic 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:20.880 attacks whatever it is. Your body doesn't really 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:23.259 fully know the difference like your head does 00:24:23.259 --> 00:24:25.940 but your body doesn't you know and so I've had 00:24:25.940 --> 00:24:30.059 to find tools and ways that I can leave that 00:24:30.059 --> 00:24:33.690 at the door when I leave set. to make sure it 00:24:33.690 --> 00:24:36.470 doesn't start to trickle into my personal life 00:24:36.470 --> 00:24:39.869 at all. Not that I'm saying it's method or anything 00:24:39.869 --> 00:24:42.750 like that. I think just when you are doing 12 00:24:42.750 --> 00:24:44.349 scenes a day and you're kind of in that head 00:24:44.349 --> 00:24:47.589 space for 12 hours and then you go home and then 00:24:47.589 --> 00:24:50.950 you do that five days a week, that can start 00:24:50.950 --> 00:24:55.960 to just be extremely mentally exhausting. So 00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:57.859 what are some of the things you try and do to 00:24:57.859 --> 00:25:00.680 make sure that doesn't happen? Well, I think 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:02.740 one... She bought her journal today. She bought 00:25:02.740 --> 00:25:05.200 her journal. I did bring my journal. I mean, 00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:07.160 journaling, there's lots of things and I've been 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.180 doing some quite a lot of inner work this year 00:25:11.180 --> 00:25:15.799 as well. And I have a few tools. I mean, one, 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:20.339 journaling. I think time for myself is really 00:25:20.339 --> 00:25:23.240 important. And that's where I struggle with relationships 00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:26.230 and friendships, I think. um with home and away 00:25:26.230 --> 00:25:30.150 because you when you're on set you're socializing 00:25:30.150 --> 00:25:32.970 the whole time you're talking to people you're 00:25:32.970 --> 00:25:35.210 acting you're around everyone and you come home 00:25:35.210 --> 00:25:37.630 and you you need that recharge time and when 00:25:37.630 --> 00:25:40.430 you've got one to two days off a week sometimes 00:25:40.430 --> 00:25:43.990 it's more but for me my personal experience i've 00:25:43.990 --> 00:25:48.529 barely had time off um you really need time to 00:25:48.529 --> 00:25:52.369 recharge and do those things that you need to 00:25:52.369 --> 00:25:55.750 do for yourself to kind of wind down and slow 00:25:55.750 --> 00:26:01.809 down so you don't burn out on both ends. And 00:26:01.809 --> 00:26:04.549 I think for me, I've kind of gotten to the routine 00:26:04.549 --> 00:26:07.750 of, I mean, I love working out. So I think, you 00:26:07.750 --> 00:26:11.109 know, getting in the sun, going for walks, making 00:26:11.109 --> 00:26:15.390 sure that I'm putting boundaries up with people 00:26:15.390 --> 00:26:18.609 and... just being truthful to what i need and 00:26:18.609 --> 00:26:20.990 if that means that i need a whole day to myself 00:26:20.990 --> 00:26:22.890 then that's kind of what i need and i've found 00:26:22.890 --> 00:26:25.750 that my social life with this job has declined 00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:28.789 incredibly because i've had to spend more time 00:26:28.789 --> 00:26:32.369 like on by myself on my on my time's off and 00:26:32.369 --> 00:26:37.750 um yeah take that time to do all the things that 00:26:37.750 --> 00:26:40.910 i need to do and recharging self -care and give 00:26:40.910 --> 00:26:43.130 myself self -care and love i'm just gonna ask 00:26:43.130 --> 00:26:45.190 as well how have you found with friendships that 00:26:45.190 --> 00:26:48.779 people Like, I'm just curious, have people like 00:26:48.779 --> 00:26:50.480 changed their attitude towards you at all? Have 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.279 you realized any differences in terms of like 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.279 jealousy now that you're, you know, working your 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.980 dream or anything like that? Love that question. 00:26:59.980 --> 00:27:02.319 It could be more love. Love that question. It 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:05.759 could be, you know, because people have touched 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.279 on this in our episode last week about tall poppy 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:13.279 syndrome. But I'm just curious because... Interesting. 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:17.500 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I... wouldn't say that I've 00:27:17.500 --> 00:27:23.720 experienced oh yeah I have I just like I mean 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.259 I have in certain ways and I know I've talked 00:27:26.259 --> 00:27:28.660 about this with you and like you know we all 00:27:28.660 --> 00:27:33.339 have I think I've experienced obviously jealousy 00:27:33.339 --> 00:27:36.400 in certain ways and it's it's a normal human 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.559 emotion we all feel it we all get jealous we 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.740 all have jealousy and I think whenever I have 00:27:41.740 --> 00:27:44.279 some sort of Negative energy around me. I just 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:46.660 have to remind myself. That's what that person 00:27:46.660 --> 00:27:48.640 is going through That's nothing to do with me 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:50.599 But I've also been quite lucky because I do have 00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:53.019 very beautiful people around me and one thing 00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:55.799 that I got really clear on With everything that 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:59.900 I went through last year in this year is Who 00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:02.200 I want in my life and the type of friendships 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.519 and people that I want to surround myself with 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.759 and to be honest that circle has gotten smaller 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.960 and smaller and so I Feel like I protect myself 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:19.690 and my energy I wouldn't say that I've experienced 00:28:19.690 --> 00:28:22.930 too much like negative energy around that at 00:28:22.930 --> 00:28:24.890 all or people treating me any different because 00:28:24.890 --> 00:28:28.289 I just haven't put myself in a place To let those 00:28:28.289 --> 00:28:31.650 people in if that makes sense in the first place 00:28:31.650 --> 00:28:34.650 Have you had people who have all of a sudden 00:28:34.650 --> 00:28:38.509 like because I've experienced this when you've 00:28:38.509 --> 00:28:42.319 become successful had people that never really 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:46.720 gave a damn about you or what you do. And all 00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:50.039 of a sudden, like, oh my God, like, congratulations, 00:28:50.220 --> 00:28:52.380 you're at home and away. Like, let's get coffee 00:28:52.380 --> 00:28:55.099 and cat. Like, have you had that? Yeah. Yeah. 00:28:55.099 --> 00:28:57.420 Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've definitely had that. And 00:28:57.420 --> 00:29:00.299 I think you can kind of tell when something's 00:29:00.299 --> 00:29:04.299 authentic or when it's not authentic. Um, but 00:29:04.299 --> 00:29:07.819 I think, yeah, like I always liked to, and this 00:29:07.819 --> 00:29:10.480 is where I get bitten in the arse, but I always 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.880 like to believe that everyone's intentions come 00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:15.740 from love. Me and you are the same, and this 00:29:15.740 --> 00:29:18.019 is the funniest thing that me and Rose talk about 00:29:18.019 --> 00:29:21.980 all the time, because Rose and Sophia, and now 00:29:21.980 --> 00:29:24.380 I'm realizing that me and Sophia are the same. 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.160 I'm not. People pleases, fully people pleases, 00:29:29.180 --> 00:29:31.339 and Rose will just say it how it is, but in a 00:29:31.339 --> 00:29:34.059 good way. This is why you need both of you. That's 00:29:34.059 --> 00:29:38.859 why we work. As friends. Rose doesn't take any 00:29:38.859 --> 00:29:41.900 shit, she'll say it as it is. I love it. We just 00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:44.339 purposely, I feel like, don't like confrontation 00:29:44.339 --> 00:29:46.880 and we'll protect our energy so that it doesn't 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.000 have to come in. And if it does, we're just too 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.019 nice. Yeah, yeah. But something that I'm working 00:29:52.019 --> 00:29:55.200 on, like being like, I'm way better now, way 00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.799 better now. But I, yeah, the people pleasing, 00:29:59.500 --> 00:30:02.039 the two... too nice sort of thing. It's something 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.839 that I'm continuously working on and I think 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.420 that just comes from self -worth and trusting 00:30:07.420 --> 00:30:10.259 your gut and that's something this year really 00:30:10.259 --> 00:30:13.339 I think have improved on is listening to my gut 00:30:13.339 --> 00:30:19.359 and speaking from my truth with life and everyone 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:22.599 around me so but yeah. But Rose is very good 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:24.480 at it. You're very, very good at it. And I'm 00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.779 sure you're good at it too. The thing is it's 00:30:26.779 --> 00:30:29.240 weird because it honestly just depends on the 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:33.279 environment I'm in. Like if I'm in an environment 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:40.500 where I feel like people's intentions aren't 00:30:40.500 --> 00:30:43.309 right. or like it's not my type of person, like 00:30:43.309 --> 00:30:46.630 I think you'll know. And I think my friends know 00:30:46.630 --> 00:30:48.529 exactly when I feel that way. But then again, 00:30:48.549 --> 00:30:50.829 I'm actually quite like, you know, I'm an actor. 00:30:50.910 --> 00:30:53.150 I can put on a front if I need to put on a front 00:30:53.150 --> 00:30:57.809 and click, click, click, click. Don't trust the 00:30:57.809 --> 00:31:02.589 actors. Don't trust the actors. Maybe I'm giving 00:31:02.589 --> 00:31:04.690 you a different side to me right now. Maybe I 00:31:04.690 --> 00:31:07.529 don't know. Look, no, we're actually like, I 00:31:07.529 --> 00:31:10.319 think. I think as actors, we're very empathetic 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.819 people. I think we feel so, so, so deeply, which 00:31:13.819 --> 00:31:17.680 is both a blessing and a curse. And, and this 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:20.880 actually, I weave, I'm going to weave into relationships 00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:28.240 here because I think we feel so deeply and Faye, 00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:32.160 you have a heart of gold and you are just like 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:36.039 one of a kind. And I know in relationships and 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.319 in friendships, like you are a very, very good 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.420 partner. You're a very, very good friend. I've 00:31:41.420 --> 00:31:44.359 experienced frickin' shit friendships in my life 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.720 and never have I been in a friendship with both 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:50.200 of you. With you, Emmanuella, and with Phe, I 00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:54.130 can just like... I can confidently say like I 00:31:54.130 --> 00:31:56.890 will have you in my life for the rest of my life. 00:31:57.109 --> 00:32:00.990 You're gonna be the godmothers of my kids No, 00:32:00.990 --> 00:32:05.890 I'm not I'm not And I say that with such sincerity 00:32:05.890 --> 00:32:08.230 and I don't say that lightly because I have a 00:32:08.230 --> 00:32:10.730 lot of trust issues When it comes with people 00:32:10.730 --> 00:32:12.890 like and I'm still working on that to be honest 00:32:12.890 --> 00:32:15.150 I'm still very much so working on the trust issues, 00:32:15.150 --> 00:32:19.069 but in relationships because we feel feel so 00:32:19.069 --> 00:32:23.329 deeply How do you navigate when the heartbreak 00:32:23.329 --> 00:32:25.750 hits you just as much? Yeah. How do you, how, 00:32:25.990 --> 00:32:30.930 how did you navigate working and heartbreak and 00:32:30.930 --> 00:32:33.549 having to build yourself back up? Because I think 00:32:33.549 --> 00:32:36.130 a lot of people can relate to that and going 00:32:36.130 --> 00:32:39.390 through heartache and the wrong relationships 00:32:39.390 --> 00:32:43.809 and the right relationships. How do you navigate? 00:32:44.329 --> 00:32:46.490 How do you navigate getting your heart broken 00:32:46.490 --> 00:32:51.339 in such a pivotal time in your life? Wow, it's 00:32:51.339 --> 00:32:56.079 a big one. It's a big one Yeah, I think that 00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.299 there's no right or wrong. I think heartbreak 00:32:58.299 --> 00:33:00.500 is part of life. I think we've all been through 00:33:00.500 --> 00:33:05.339 it I think it's part of growing and learning 00:33:05.339 --> 00:33:07.680 and I'll tell you what like it was definitely 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.940 I've been through a heartbreak in my life and 00:33:10.940 --> 00:33:12.759 it was one of the hardest things that I ever 00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:16.900 had to go through but at the same time sometimes 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.720 you have to go through that to really find yourself. 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.119 And I think that forced me to really, cause like 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.720 heartbreak in relationships, any relationship, 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:28.099 you know, it's, it mirrors you, it really does. 00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:32.359 And I was forced to kind of build myself up from 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.880 the ground. And I think he gave you a reality 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:41.380 check. Yeah. And really look inwards and develop, 00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:44.140 like turn inwards and find that love for myself 00:33:44.140 --> 00:33:46.200 again. And that was a really beautiful experience 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:50.220 that I had with me, myself and I, and explore 00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:57.859 that slowly in a weird, strange, scary, great, 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.839 fun way. I don't know. There's so many words. 00:34:01.059 --> 00:34:04.440 I mean, this topic, it's a huge topic, but yeah. 00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.659 And what kind of things did you do to navigate, 00:34:09.019 --> 00:34:11.199 to get out of that? Or you know what? A lot of 00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:14.119 people say it's just time. Like time heals. You 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.559 just got to give it time. Do you agree with that? 00:34:16.539 --> 00:34:20.079 100 % but I don't think that's that's the only 00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:23.300 key I think I think it's a hundred percent time 00:34:23.300 --> 00:34:27.559 and I think everything that we do we do based 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.199 on what we know in the moment at that time in 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.219 our lives and I think when you can come from 00:34:33.219 --> 00:34:37.369 a place of compassion and love in your actions 00:34:37.369 --> 00:34:39.670 and the other person's actions, then you can 00:34:39.670 --> 00:34:42.550 understand that that was, you know, at the end 00:34:42.550 --> 00:34:44.349 of the day, we're all just humans trying to navigate 00:34:44.349 --> 00:34:46.630 our life the best that we can. Welcome to the 00:34:46.630 --> 00:34:49.530 motto of Lostish. Yeah, literally. Literally. 00:34:50.090 --> 00:34:53.949 And that's, you know, that's all we can do. And 00:34:53.949 --> 00:34:56.329 I think, what was your question? I have ADHD, 00:34:56.429 --> 00:35:01.050 guys. Oh, so do I, and I forget. How do you navigate 00:35:01.050 --> 00:35:05.869 your heartbreak? Yeah, I think I think time is 00:35:05.869 --> 00:35:09.550 a huge one. I think there's no Everyone heals 00:35:09.550 --> 00:35:12.889 and in their time again in different ways and 00:35:12.889 --> 00:35:15.409 in their own time And but I think there's things 00:35:15.409 --> 00:35:17.690 that you can do and it's sometimes it's really 00:35:17.690 --> 00:35:21.250 really hard and you know Like I had I've been 00:35:21.250 --> 00:35:23.570 seeing a therapist for three years. So I had 00:35:23.570 --> 00:35:26.289 worked through With my therapist through heartbreak 00:35:26.289 --> 00:35:28.190 and that was really great surrounding yourself 00:35:28.190 --> 00:35:32.230 with great friends giving yourself hobbies and 00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:34.050 really working hard in your passions and the 00:35:34.050 --> 00:35:36.150 other things that you find fulfillment and love 00:35:36.150 --> 00:35:40.150 from and really challenging yourself to give 00:35:40.150 --> 00:35:41.909 yourself love every day and when you feel like 00:35:41.909 --> 00:35:43.750 you don't deserve it and showing up for yourself 00:35:43.750 --> 00:35:46.630 that's. You know and whatever that looks like 00:35:46.630 --> 00:35:53.469 for you contact. Go. No. Contact. Go. No. Contact. 00:35:57.329 --> 00:36:01.010 Go. No. Contact. She has a sip of her coconut 00:36:01.010 --> 00:36:04.829 water. Yeah. No, I really agree with you in that. 00:36:04.969 --> 00:36:07.250 And that's the thing. It's like, it is so important 00:36:07.250 --> 00:36:10.369 to have a really good network in your life because 00:36:10.369 --> 00:36:15.010 boyfriends, boyfriends, girlfriends and friends 00:36:15.010 --> 00:36:18.079 come and go. Like you said, what was it, season, 00:36:18.219 --> 00:36:20.860 lifetime? Season, reason, or lifetime? Season, 00:36:20.900 --> 00:36:22.860 reason, or lifetime. I really like that. Where's 00:36:22.860 --> 00:36:24.780 that from? I don't know. I heard it once and 00:36:24.780 --> 00:36:26.639 it stuck with me. Either someone's in your life 00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.260 for a season, someone's in your life for a reason 00:36:29.260 --> 00:36:31.639 to teach you a lesson. Oh, season or reason. 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.039 Bad. Bad. Oh wait, no, season's still temporary. 00:36:34.420 --> 00:36:40.619 Or lifetime. Yep. Yep. Or lifetime. And I think 00:36:40.619 --> 00:36:43.400 heartbreak as somebody who has gone through it 00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:47.969 myself, was probably one of the most painful 00:36:47.969 --> 00:36:50.269 things you can go through, but one of the best 00:36:50.269 --> 00:36:53.170 things you can go through growth wise. Best is 00:36:53.170 --> 00:36:54.989 one of the best things I've ever gone through. 00:36:55.130 --> 00:36:57.449 Yeah. For myself. For yourself. Development and 00:36:57.449 --> 00:37:01.070 love. Correct. Correct. Journey. I'm very proud 00:37:01.070 --> 00:37:03.150 of both of you. Thank you. I'm very proud of 00:37:03.150 --> 00:37:05.710 all of you. I'm very proud of all of us. Thank 00:37:05.710 --> 00:37:09.210 you. Claps, claps, claps, claps, claps. And you 00:37:09.210 --> 00:37:12.250 know, it's part of the human experience heartbreak. 00:37:12.409 --> 00:37:15.789 It ultimately is. And everyone goes through it 00:37:15.789 --> 00:37:18.150 whether it not just in relationships and friendships 00:37:18.150 --> 00:37:22.389 and it could be familial grief yeah yeah with 00:37:22.389 --> 00:37:24.969 with everything and i think that that it is part 00:37:24.969 --> 00:37:29.289 of life and you know it's part of humanity so 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.059 It's okay guys, you're not alone. You're not 00:37:33.059 --> 00:37:35.159 alone. Oh no one's alone. Everyone goes through 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:36.460 it. That's also something that helped me too 00:37:36.460 --> 00:37:38.340 on a side note, knowing that everyone's gone 00:37:38.340 --> 00:37:40.579 through it. Yeah. So when I saw you come out 00:37:40.579 --> 00:37:42.239 of your heartbreak, I was like, I'm going to 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.119 get through this. Yeah. You know? And you don't 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:45.480 think you are going to get through it in the 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.519 moment. You genuinely think you're going to die. 00:37:47.539 --> 00:37:51.760 Yeah. Like it is honestly, like it's a whole 00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.869 wave of grief. It's a different type of grief, 00:37:54.869 --> 00:37:57.989 you know, and it's like, you're grieving somebody 00:37:57.989 --> 00:38:01.170 that's still alive. Really. It's, it's really, 00:38:01.170 --> 00:38:04.610 really. And someone who knows all parts of you. 00:38:04.989 --> 00:38:07.849 It's almost like they say it's, it's like a drug, 00:38:08.170 --> 00:38:11.610 like you, you know, all of your habits are linked 00:38:11.610 --> 00:38:15.309 with them. Like it's, it's hard. You're rebuilding. 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:21.079 That came out recently. That's literally, I feel 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.659 like the perfect depiction of what we're talking 00:38:23.659 --> 00:38:27.780 about. Are you so would have heard it? Yeah. 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:32.380 Which song? How can we go back to being friends 00:38:32.380 --> 00:38:39.179 with you? Thank you Fifi for singing that for 00:38:39.179 --> 00:38:43.260 us. You have so many memories attached to this 00:38:43.260 --> 00:38:46.440 person and so much... Knowledge and just every 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.800 life. Yeah, but it's like having yeah your perfect 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:51.820 explanation having to navigate that when they're 00:38:51.820 --> 00:38:54.500 literally still alive Yeah, it's really hard. 00:38:54.500 --> 00:38:58.000 And honestly, I don't wish it upon anyone, but 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:03.119 I also do because it is So, so formative for 00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.000 your life and I'm not the same person, you're 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.239 not the same person and you're not the same person 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.500 for having gone through some sort of heartbreak 00:39:11.500 --> 00:39:13.579 in your life. You know, whether it's romantic 00:39:13.579 --> 00:39:15.960 or familial or friendship or someone passing 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:20.519 away, like whatever it may be. Um, yeah, yeah, 00:39:20.699 --> 00:39:23.179 I think it's really beautiful that to see you 00:39:23.179 --> 00:39:26.900 have come out from the other side and um, You 00:39:26.900 --> 00:39:29.820 know you are thriving and glowing and navigating 00:39:29.820 --> 00:39:33.440 life and although you have these amazing things 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.440 happening you still feel lost don't you Faye? 00:39:36.539 --> 00:39:40.400 Like absolutely. You still feel so lost and you 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.179 are going to feel a little bit lost for the rest 00:39:43.179 --> 00:39:45.460 of your life. One day I think I'm on top of the 00:39:45.460 --> 00:39:46.980 world the next day I'm not. That's part of being 00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:49.960 in your 20s and that's the beauty of life. No 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.480 one's got their shit together. No matter how 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.420 much you try. Every single person we've spoken 00:39:54.420 --> 00:39:58.429 to and brought up Our podcast whole like motto 00:39:58.429 --> 00:40:01.610 is like, wow, it's not just about navigating 00:40:01.610 --> 00:40:04.730 your 20s. It's about navigating your life. Literally. 00:40:05.030 --> 00:40:06.849 100%. It's about navigating your life. There's 00:40:06.849 --> 00:40:08.869 no right or wrong. You know, even everything 00:40:08.869 --> 00:40:10.510 that I've said on here, I'm not a psychologist. 00:40:10.550 --> 00:40:14.489 I'm not a perfect person. My opinion that I have 00:40:14.489 --> 00:40:17.050 said on the amount of topics that we've spoken 00:40:17.050 --> 00:40:19.309 about today could change tomorrow. Do you know 00:40:19.309 --> 00:40:22.610 what I mean? So I'm just right here right now 00:40:22.610 --> 00:40:25.949 on a Saturday. This is where I'm at. This is 00:40:25.949 --> 00:40:28.349 where you guys are at night. That's absolutely. 00:40:29.190 --> 00:40:32.909 Yeah. I'm so, so happy. Honestly, like it's, 00:40:32.909 --> 00:40:36.190 it's been so amazing having you as a guest and 00:40:36.190 --> 00:40:39.070 you're going to be back very, very soon. We're 00:40:39.070 --> 00:40:40.409 going to, we're going to have to be on the pot 00:40:40.409 --> 00:40:48.510 again. But we love you and I love you very dearly. 00:40:49.030 --> 00:40:52.250 And we hope you guys have enjoyed the episode 00:40:52.250 --> 00:40:55.869 just as much as we have enjoyed making it. Yeah, 00:40:55.989 --> 00:40:59.170 chatting a whole heap of shit today. Yeah, we 00:40:59.170 --> 00:41:02.010 hope we've said this before, but let's take our 00:41:02.010 --> 00:41:06.030 episodes as therapy sessions and go to therapy 00:41:06.030 --> 00:41:11.309 as well. And you just want to chat and something 00:41:11.309 --> 00:41:14.710 to like, you know, your comfort. Show. Listen 00:41:14.710 --> 00:41:16.590 to Lost This. I just want to listen to a few 00:41:16.590 --> 00:41:19.389 girls just chat like they are on a sleepover. 00:41:19.530 --> 00:41:22.630 Literally. Three girls chatting. That's what 00:41:22.630 --> 00:41:25.010 it is, we're at a sleepover right now. We're 00:41:25.010 --> 00:41:27.030 not but like that's what it feels like. That's 00:41:27.030 --> 00:41:30.050 the mentality. Guys, thank you so much for having 00:41:30.050 --> 00:41:33.570 me. I love you both so much and I love you and 00:41:33.570 --> 00:41:36.889 it's been a lot of fun. So happy to see you again. 00:41:37.630 --> 00:41:41.090 But tune in to the Lost This podcast everyone 00:41:41.090 --> 00:41:46.000 and please go and follow Fia on all socials at 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.539 Sophia Pennington and tune in to Home and Away 00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:54.059 Monday to Thursday. Monday? Wow! You sound like 00:41:54.059 --> 00:41:59.239 Channel 7 is employed you. Monday to Thursday 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:05.460 at 7 p .m. At 7 p .m. At 7 p .m. Alright guys, 00:42:05.739 --> 00:42:08.920 we love you lot. Give it a share, a love, whatever 00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.099 you like. We love you and we'll see you in the 00:42:11.099 --> 00:42:15.539 next episode of The Lost Dish Podcast.