Are you feeling lost? Well, you've come to the
right place. Welcome to Lostish, where we, Rose
Chachko and Emmanuella Kathreptakis share
what it's really like navigating your twenties.
We're two semi -lost girls figuring out careers,
relationships, wellness, purpose, and everything
in between. Each week, we dive into the highs,
the lows, and the lessons of chasing your dreams,
finding happiness, and learning to embrace the
uncertainty. We're not here to pretend like we've
loaded all together. We're simply just figuring
it out with you. Hello, guys. One and welcome
back to the Lostish podcast! So we have our very
first special guest on the pod today. Yes a very
very special guest Somebody who I have known
for literally a decade my best friend the wonderful
actress superstar Sophea Pennington So Phe and
I have known each other for many many years now
and you also may recognize her from a few shows
She has done many, many things and some include
Lacey on Home and Away. She has been a part of
The Deb, which is Rebel Wilson's film that premiered
at TIFF last year. And you may also recognize
her from Channel 7's Roast Night. But most of
you will know her from Home and Away. And she's
here with us today to talk everything about Acting,
relationships, lifestyle, mental health. She's
here to answer all the tea. Which we know is
something that you guys have been wanting for
a while and we've been wanting a guest on for
a while. So we thought who better? Who better
than the one and only Sophia Pennington. Yay!
Thank you guys so much for having me. I'm so
excited to be here. I've been wanting to - We've
been trying to coordinate for way too long. I
know, the second Rose told me that she was doing
a podcast, I was like, get me on one day. And
then the day came and I was like, whoa, I'm actually
feeling a bit nervous. I was like, this is my
first podcast I've ever spoken on ever. So it's
not the last, it's not the last, but we can claim,
we can claim that Fia has been on Lostish and
that's her first podcast, which is a big claim
to make. But yeah, no, we are so excited to have
you Fia and it's been a long time coming. And
you know what? I reckon, I reckon, okay, I'm
gonna give a little introduction on how we kind
of met, how I know you, and then we're gonna
lead into the yummy stuff. Phe and I have known
each other for a very long time. We've known
each other for about like 10 years, nine years.
Now it will be 10 years next year, I think. And
we met in America doing an acting program and
we just like hit it off straight away. Phe lived
in Singapore at the time. I obviously lived in
Sydney and we lost contact for a few years and
then got back into contact. But we've always
kind of always been in each other. other's lives
and then we both met each other at drama school
so we both got into the same course at NIDA and
that was fate bringing us together again. 100
% fate. 100 % 100 % fate and I remember you texting
me being like did you get into NIDA and I was
like yeah did you like I would before we even
saw each other like it's actually a fate thing
like it's a universe bringing us together. 100
% I fully believe it. every single person that
comes into your life is part of your path. Oh
100 % season or lifetime. Yeah season or lifetime
for sure and yeah we've basically been on this
kind of journey together where obviously Phe
and I are both actors. Emanuela knows all about
our troubles and our yes mental breakdowns when
it comes to the wild industry we're in but I
kind of want to hand it over to you Phe and give
you a platform to give yourself a little introduction
and tell us a little bit. That's not just acting
related. Not acting related, everything related.
Fun fact, anything. Okay, well, thank you for
the intro. That was a beautiful intro. Yeah,
my name's Sophia and I'm an actress and Rose's
best friend. But yeah, I mean, I think you explained
it very well. We met a long time ago and we've
kind of been in each other's lives for a while
and now I've met the beautiful Emanuella. We
did, at a sleepover. At a sleepover. Oh yeah,
at a sleepover that... We ended up having a sleepover
by mistake. Yeah, by mistake and once again fate.
Once again fate. Yeah, but no, I've been in the
arts for a very long time. I kind of started
off in... Dance and like music singing then I
went into a bit of theater the musical theater
And you did the sound of music the touring yeah,
I did you the sound and music. Oh my goodness
I was like wow like 14 and the sound music like
the West End tour when they came to Singapore.
I did that But always been fascinated by the
arts and in the creative fields I will say I
think you have to be one of a kind to be in this
industry absolutely, but it is Rollercoaster
but it's very rewarding. Yeah, and you love it.
Like I just know you love it so much I love it
and you want you are not built to do anything
else but this yeah, I'll tell you And I think
that like some people later on and I think that
everyone's got a creative side to them 100 %
and I think that some people kind of No what
they want to do at a very young age and some
people kind of find it you know later on in life
but i think for me i've always i was always just
attracted to. Telling stories and exploring humanity
and and all of that jazz so yeah. I'm more than
happy sitting on the outskirts and being friends
with all of you. It's great. I feel like you're
by default just a part of it because you have
just seen so much of it. I am surrounded by a
lot of creative people and it's so fascinating
to watch. I mean, I am in like the media industry.
You are creative, yeah. creative industry. I've
done about 50 different jobs in the creative
industry. Acting is not one of them. We're all
a bit batshit crazy. We're all a bit batshit
crazy. We need an outlet to express ourselves
and all the shit that life throws at us. It's
alright, I'm okay to hear all your shit, guys.
I'll make it. No, that's awesome. Yeah, you've
been doing it for so long now and that's why
you'd be the best person to talk to and I want
to kind of you kind of answer this but Like what
kind of first drew you to acting and then what
kind of led you to do home in a way because that
was a big decision for you to make because there
were other things going on in your life. You
had just premiered the Deb with Rebel Wilson
in was it Toronto? Yeah. And you know, you had
a lot of interest from that and it was kind of
all. Happening for you and then you booked home
in a way and you were like, oh my goodness Like
what do I do? Like how do I go about this? So
yeah the kind of beginning journey for you What
made you first like start acting and then how
it is for you now on? Well how I got first started
acting because a lot of people have asked me
this question but like there's not necessarily
specific answer like as I said since I was young
I kind of was all you know I did the whole dance
thing which I know a lot of people do but I do
have one core memory of when I was in kindergarten
and I couldn't get up in front of the class.
at all. Like I was, I had no confidence. I was
the most scared little girl in the world. And
so my mum decided to put me into speech and drama
lessons so I could start to speak to my friends
and make friends in class and to get up and say
my weekly news. We did that. Anyone else do that?
I love that. Do you remember that? So because
I was so scared and I just refused to do it,
like I wouldn't go to school. My mom was like,
let's put you into speech and drama lessons and
see if she can build some public speaking confidence.
So that's, yeah. So that's where it happened.
So she wasn't always a loud actor, drama kid.
She had to be forced into it. I had to be forced
into it. My mom forced me into those classes.
Um, no, but then it's kind of started from there
and then I started speech and drama and I kind
of found a love for that. But at the same time,
I was also a dancer, I played piano, I sung.
So I think performing really gave me a lot of
fulfillment. And then that kind of, you know,
dribbled into acting specifically. And I was
honestly, until NIDA, I wasn't 100 % sure. if
I wanted to do on -screen acting or stage acting
or focus on music. But I think that's the beauty
of the creative field is that you can do it all
and you kind of just got to go with the flow.
That's actually very interesting. I fully agree.
Yeah. And even writing. So I think that's where
it started for me. And then I would kind of do
all the school productions and all of that kind
of stuff. I just, I love to tell stories and
express myself through that and sing and all
of that and perform. It's such an art. Can I
just say when I look at actors, because I've
tried myself in the mirror from like a young
age to like force myself to cry and see like,
I can't do it. So like looking at people in that
act is fascinating to me. Yeah anything I like
I find it so fun where you can explore humanity
of a character or a certain human being from
a certain period of time and bring your truth
and yourself to it and just. Explore all of that
cuz I mean I find human being so fascinating
and emotions and and all of that and it's really
psychology right it's really yeah the psychology
of a human being and I think acting forces us
to dissect the human brain so much as saying
why am I feeling like this okay why is the character
saying this in this particular moment why am
I acting this way yeah a great acting teacher
of ours les chanterie. always used to say this
to us at drama school why now like why is the
character saying this now why are you saying
this now which is a really really important part
of i think authentic storytelling is like why
didn't the character say this two seconds ago
why are they saying it in this moment and for
you as lacy you obviously having conversations
with you you feel so connected to her in a lot
of ways and she forces you to bring out this
side of you that is really beautiful to see it's
that feisty it's that powerful that independent
woman you know who has been through so much in
her life so what did it mean for you to book
a character like lacy. Booking place is actually
really interesting story because when i first
got the brief for her. I just thought she was
the most fun character ever. She's a river girl,
she's a bad girl, she has a lot of edge. She's
got a shit ton of trauma and been through so
much and I kind of saw her as a version of myself
that I would like to step into more. And usually
when I do tapes and audition for things, a dream
of mine or a goal of mine was to be able to step
into a character like that with edge and is actually
quite different to me and it's really interesting
cuz i know a few people have said this to me
in the cast like lacy. Is very different to sophia
like she is and i feel like a lot of the time
when you first kind of book your acting roles
for the first time you can plan yourself have
you heard of that like you know you're playing
yourself and you bring a lot of truth but i found
with lacy i've had to really be like no this
is i'm playing so fear right now or am i. No,
backtrack. With Lacey, when I'm on set, I have
to kind of be like, is this what Lacey would
do or is this what Sophia would do? But it's
been so much fun for me to kind of explore a
character that is different from me. And that
was going to be my next question. How different
do you think you are from Lacey? Well, Lacey
has no filter. Like she is, she'll speak her
mind. She has a lot of edge to her. She's feisty,
super independent. and she also has a lot of
feistiness like a lot of feistiness and for me
as I feel like I'm someone who is still working
on speaking my truth all the time and just saying
how I feel and finding that strength and that
power and in conversations and things like that.
So Lacey's like you'll fake it till you make
it. She's like my alter ego. She's like my alter
ego. Literally. So it's really cool and it's
really fun and it's really empowering to play
a character like that. It's really fucking empowering.
Can I just say like Lacey has honestly I think
brought actually a lot of light into your life.
I think like you booked that role at such a crucial
stage. Of your life and you can talk about that
a bit more but a lot was happening you know you
were you obviously being recognized in america
after t if you had the deb going on you also
going through heartbreak and a lot of stuff in
your a lot of things in your personal life and
there was a lot of change there was a lot of
change happening and. When i first audition for
it i didn't actually think i did very well and
i wasn't in a good headspace actually when i
first did audition for lacy and then when i got.
The chemistry rate it was actually the day that
I was leaving to go to Toronto for Tiff and they
had to move it a day earlier so I could go in
and I think I was the first person that they
saw and then when I went to Toronto I did Tiff
and I went to New York and I woke up the morning
after the dead premiere Tiff to the news that
I booked Lacey. And I was shocked. And to be
honest, I had a lot of - You were on FaceTime
with me! I was on FaceTime with you and I had
a lot of imposter syndrome. I was like, what?
Because I thought that I did a really shit job.
And I've heard a lot about that with actors.
Like I walked out and I was like, yeah, I flipped
that. Like, I didn't - You book it when you least
expect it. You do book it when you least expect
it. And I truly think that that's an energetical
thing. But making that decision to take the role
and embrace Lacey is one of the best things that
- I've ever done. Yeah, so she's bought she's
been very healing in my life in many ways. That's
I That is so that's so beautiful. Yeah healing
It's like this is why I love doing what I do
so much is because it heals My inner child and
it's almost like that voice that I felt like
was silenced for so long same with you right
thing it's like we now have an outlet to express
that in another light and actually be commended
for it and appreciated for it and same. Yeah
and it's just a really beautiful thing and seeing
you flourish. Like through Lacey has just been
really beautiful and you actually mentioned something
something really interesting about imposter syndrome.
Yeah, I want you to elaborate a little bit more
about that because as actors even as non actors,
I feel like you Emanuella face imposter syndrome
all the time working in the field that where
whether it's modeling or social media or like
at any point in your life. Well, yeah, what is
the definition of imposter syndrome? Is that
like a great question definition syndrome well
imposter syndrome is when you feel. When you
feel like an imposter in a space yet and you
feel like you don't belong or you feel like you're
not enough and you're surrounded by everyone
you kind of feel out of place or you know like
you don't deserve it all the success like there's
a lot of things that goes into it for example
like when i was on set for the first time doing
ten pound palms. I felt like a complete and i
was like i'm surrounded by so many successful
people who are big names like. And me little
roses first acting job you know i'm like i felt
like the biggest imposter but you know what every
single person even the ones with the millions
of followers the ones who are very renowned everyone
feels like an imposter everyone goes through
it everyone feels it and it's that we i think
also. you know, trying to step into a place where
you've wanted to be for so long. And then it
kind of all happening at once and all happening
at full speed. You do get that effect. Like,
and you kind of like, wow, you know, like, as
you said, you felt it on 10 pound palms, like
we all feel it. How did you navigate it? Like
that first day on set? That's important to talk
about. I think even me and Rose just, I know
it's about you, but me and Rose are also like,
I think we're going to have that moment because
obviously now a lot of our listeners are like
friends and family and if we ever do reach the
audience that we're hoping to reach, I think
we're going to have that same like shock feeling.
Be like, what? Like, how do we navigate this?
So since you've been there, give people the goods.
Well, it's actually really interesting because
I had to come back. As I said, I was in New York
when I booked. Lacey and i had to fly back early
cuz i was literally on set like a week later
shooting that's also fast paced industry is like
you can book something and be on set the next
day so i pretty much have to drop everything
get on an earlier flight and i went from the
airport to the studio yeah that was my first
day and i. because you know with jet lag and
getting off the flight and it was such an intense
time I was kind of like what is going on going
through the motions I was like I cannot believe
I'm here this is incredible I'm so grateful and
it was only kind of more into it that I was really
able to be like wow like I'm here and I deserve
to be here and I think that's part of imposter
syndrome is that feeling of not feeling worthy.
to be there yet. So I had to really work with
myself and be like, no, I do deserve to be here.
I am worthy. I have worked very, very hard. And
all of these people who I've seen and I've looked
up to are now my friends and my co -stars. And
that's really cool. And Home and Away is really
one big family. So they really helped me feel
super belonged and just made me feel at home
there. And that is the best part about it is
the cast and the people at Home and Away, because
that's what made me. move out of that kind of
feeling of imposter syndrome and comfortable.
Wow. I love that. I love cause it cause that
actually doesn't happen often is you on set,
you get a lot of different characters of like
types of types of people, right? Even the crew
and a lot of the times like It's not one big
family and there's a lot of ruckus and there's
a lot of drama and gossip I guess like in every
industry right and I just think it's really beautiful.
Yeah, you know in life I think it's really beautiful
that you found a second family within your home
and away people and I've I've met a few of them
and They are very very beautiful people and it's
weird cuz like, you know I came in and home in
a ways machine It's a machine we film every single
day six days a week most of the time and the
hours are insane and you know there's people
coming in and out for sure but you're with each
other all the time and i think having someone
come into that is like just here you go here's
another person to join your family whether you
like them or not and the amount of love and warmth
they got from everyone and how much everyone
has been there and just picks everyone up. It's
so supportive. It is so beautiful and I've said
this before and I'm so grateful for everyone
in that cast and I will say it again because
it is really beautiful and I think being in an
environment and in a show like that and such
a fast pace, being such a fast paced show, it's
really important to have good people around you
and to have that support. in any work it's important
like your work environment can diminish whether
you enjoy the job or not and especially in an
acting job where you're with them 24 7 and literally
have to like portray characters to each other
in an intimate setting sometimes it's like yeah
it's very important that you do need to get along
with these people and build some sort of rapport
relationship yeah Yeah, it applies in every workplace.
I think, you know, in every situation in your
life, the people around you really make an impact
on how you overall are feeling. And it's so important
that you're surrounding yourself with the right
people and, you know, the energy that's around
you. 100%. And I think that leads me to my next
point is that mental health is a huge thing,
right? We haven't spoken about mental health
yet. No, not at all. And it's something that
I feel very, very passionate about something
that I've had to deal with in my life, something
that I think we all have had to deal with in
our lives at some stage. Um, yeah. And I want
to ask you when it comes to your mental health
and being on set and balancing the two and balancing
your own personal life with your work life, because
home in a way is such a huge commitment. Like
you are. On set at 4 a .m. Working till 7 p .m.
Every single day, maybe you get one or two days
off But in those one or two days off you're learning
scripts or you're doing press or you're preparing
for the next scene. We're just trying to do my
washing Having to navigate people not now viewing
you as a normal human because now you're in the
spotlight So it's a lot of mental health toll.
Yeah I don't see myself as being the spotlight
at all. I see what you do. I'm like, I'm just
a kid every day on set, just being a little kid
every day. But yeah, I mean, that's a really
big question. That's a great question. I think,
look, I love my job. And I think that I'm very
privileged to be able to be in such a beautiful
position and be able to work my... dream every
day but I'm not gonna lie it is it's been a huge
transition in my life a huge transition and I've
had to navigate that and I've had some pretty
incredible people around me to help with that
but I think and it's funny that you asked me
that because right now my character has been
doing some pretty intense sad storylines as well.
And I think as well when as an actor when you're
every single day going in and you know you're
doing intense emotional storylines and you're
getting to that place every day crying panic
attacks whatever it is. Your body doesn't really
fully know the difference like your head does
but your body doesn't you know and so I've had
to find tools and ways that I can leave that
at the door when I leave set. to make sure it
doesn't start to trickle into my personal life
at all. Not that I'm saying it's method or anything
like that. I think just when you are doing 12
scenes a day and you're kind of in that head
space for 12 hours and then you go home and then
you do that five days a week, that can start
to just be extremely mentally exhausting. So
what are some of the things you try and do to
make sure that doesn't happen? Well, I think
one... She bought her journal today. She bought
her journal. I did bring my journal. I mean,
journaling, there's lots of things and I've been
doing some quite a lot of inner work this year
as well. And I have a few tools. I mean, one,
journaling. I think time for myself is really
important. And that's where I struggle with relationships
and friendships, I think. um with home and away
because you when you're on set you're socializing
the whole time you're talking to people you're
acting you're around everyone and you come home
and you you need that recharge time and when
you've got one to two days off a week sometimes
it's more but for me my personal experience i've
barely had time off um you really need time to
recharge and do those things that you need to
do for yourself to kind of wind down and slow
down so you don't burn out on both ends. And
I think for me, I've kind of gotten to the routine
of, I mean, I love working out. So I think, you
know, getting in the sun, going for walks, making
sure that I'm putting boundaries up with people
and... just being truthful to what i need and
if that means that i need a whole day to myself
then that's kind of what i need and i've found
that my social life with this job has declined
incredibly because i've had to spend more time
like on by myself on my on my time's off and
um yeah take that time to do all the things that
i need to do and recharging self -care and give
myself self -care and love i'm just gonna ask
as well how have you found with friendships that
people Like, I'm just curious, have people like
changed their attitude towards you at all? Have
you realized any differences in terms of like
jealousy now that you're, you know, working your
dream or anything like that? Love that question.
It could be more love. Love that question. It
could be, you know, because people have touched
on this in our episode last week about tall poppy
syndrome. But I'm just curious because... Interesting.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I... wouldn't say that I've
experienced oh yeah I have I just like I mean
I have in certain ways and I know I've talked
about this with you and like you know we all
have I think I've experienced obviously jealousy
in certain ways and it's it's a normal human
emotion we all feel it we all get jealous we
all have jealousy and I think whenever I have
some sort of Negative energy around me. I just
have to remind myself. That's what that person
is going through That's nothing to do with me
But I've also been quite lucky because I do have
very beautiful people around me and one thing
that I got really clear on With everything that
I went through last year in this year is Who
I want in my life and the type of friendships
and people that I want to surround myself with
and to be honest that circle has gotten smaller
and smaller and so I Feel like I protect myself
and my energy I wouldn't say that I've experienced
too much like negative energy around that at
all or people treating me any different because
I just haven't put myself in a place To let those
people in if that makes sense in the first place
Have you had people who have all of a sudden
like because I've experienced this when you've
become successful had people that never really
gave a damn about you or what you do. And all
of a sudden, like, oh my God, like, congratulations,
you're at home and away. Like, let's get coffee
and cat. Like, have you had that? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've definitely had that. And
I think you can kind of tell when something's
authentic or when it's not authentic. Um, but
I think, yeah, like I always liked to, and this
is where I get bitten in the arse, but I always
like to believe that everyone's intentions come
from love. Me and you are the same, and this
is the funniest thing that me and Rose talk about
all the time, because Rose and Sophia, and now
I'm realizing that me and Sophia are the same.
I'm not. People pleases, fully people pleases,
and Rose will just say it how it is, but in a
good way. This is why you need both of you. That's
why we work. As friends. Rose doesn't take any
shit, she'll say it as it is. I love it. We just
purposely, I feel like, don't like confrontation
and we'll protect our energy so that it doesn't
have to come in. And if it does, we're just too
nice. Yeah, yeah. But something that I'm working
on, like being like, I'm way better now, way
better now. But I, yeah, the people pleasing,
the two... too nice sort of thing. It's something
that I'm continuously working on and I think
that just comes from self -worth and trusting
your gut and that's something this year really
I think have improved on is listening to my gut
and speaking from my truth with life and everyone
around me so but yeah. But Rose is very good
at it. You're very, very good at it. And I'm
sure you're good at it too. The thing is it's
weird because it honestly just depends on the
environment I'm in. Like if I'm in an environment
where I feel like people's intentions aren't
right. or like it's not my type of person, like
I think you'll know. And I think my friends know
exactly when I feel that way. But then again,
I'm actually quite like, you know, I'm an actor.
I can put on a front if I need to put on a front
and click, click, click, click. Don't trust the
actors. Don't trust the actors. Maybe I'm giving
you a different side to me right now. Maybe I
don't know. Look, no, we're actually like, I
think. I think as actors, we're very empathetic
people. I think we feel so, so, so deeply, which
is both a blessing and a curse. And, and this
actually, I weave, I'm going to weave into relationships
here because I think we feel so deeply and Faye,
you have a heart of gold and you are just like
one of a kind. And I know in relationships and
in friendships, like you are a very, very good
partner. You're a very, very good friend. I've
experienced frickin' shit friendships in my life
and never have I been in a friendship with both
of you. With you, Emmanuella, and with Phe, I
can just like... I can confidently say like I
will have you in my life for the rest of my life.
You're gonna be the godmothers of my kids No,
I'm not I'm not And I say that with such sincerity
and I don't say that lightly because I have a
lot of trust issues When it comes with people
like and I'm still working on that to be honest
I'm still very much so working on the trust issues,
but in relationships because we feel feel so
deeply How do you navigate when the heartbreak
hits you just as much? Yeah. How do you, how,
how did you navigate working and heartbreak and
having to build yourself back up? Because I think
a lot of people can relate to that and going
through heartache and the wrong relationships
and the right relationships. How do you navigate?
How do you navigate getting your heart broken
in such a pivotal time in your life? Wow, it's
a big one. It's a big one Yeah, I think that
there's no right or wrong. I think heartbreak
is part of life. I think we've all been through
it I think it's part of growing and learning
and I'll tell you what like it was definitely
I've been through a heartbreak in my life and
it was one of the hardest things that I ever
had to go through but at the same time sometimes
you have to go through that to really find yourself.
And I think that forced me to really, cause like
heartbreak in relationships, any relationship,
you know, it's, it mirrors you, it really does.
And I was forced to kind of build myself up from
the ground. And I think he gave you a reality
check. Yeah. And really look inwards and develop,
like turn inwards and find that love for myself
again. And that was a really beautiful experience
that I had with me, myself and I, and explore
that slowly in a weird, strange, scary, great,
fun way. I don't know. There's so many words.
I mean, this topic, it's a huge topic, but yeah.
And what kind of things did you do to navigate,
to get out of that? Or you know what? A lot of
people say it's just time. Like time heals. You
just got to give it time. Do you agree with that?
100 % but I don't think that's that's the only
key I think I think it's a hundred percent time
and I think everything that we do we do based
on what we know in the moment at that time in
our lives and I think when you can come from
a place of compassion and love in your actions
and the other person's actions, then you can
understand that that was, you know, at the end
of the day, we're all just humans trying to navigate
our life the best that we can. Welcome to the
motto of Lostish. Yeah, literally. Literally.
And that's, you know, that's all we can do. And
I think, what was your question? I have ADHD,
guys. Oh, so do I, and I forget. How do you navigate
your heartbreak? Yeah, I think I think time is
a huge one. I think there's no Everyone heals
and in their time again in different ways and
in their own time And but I think there's things
that you can do and it's sometimes it's really
really hard and you know Like I had I've been
seeing a therapist for three years. So I had
worked through With my therapist through heartbreak
and that was really great surrounding yourself
with great friends giving yourself hobbies and
really working hard in your passions and the
other things that you find fulfillment and love
from and really challenging yourself to give
yourself love every day and when you feel like
you don't deserve it and showing up for yourself
that's. You know and whatever that looks like
for you contact. Go. No. Contact. Go. No. Contact.
Go. No. Contact. She has a sip of her coconut
water. Yeah. No, I really agree with you in that.
And that's the thing. It's like, it is so important
to have a really good network in your life because
boyfriends, boyfriends, girlfriends and friends
come and go. Like you said, what was it, season,
lifetime? Season, reason, or lifetime? Season,
reason, or lifetime. I really like that. Where's
that from? I don't know. I heard it once and
it stuck with me. Either someone's in your life
for a season, someone's in your life for a reason
to teach you a lesson. Oh, season or reason.
Bad. Bad. Oh wait, no, season's still temporary.
Or lifetime. Yep. Yep. Or lifetime. And I think
heartbreak as somebody who has gone through it
myself, was probably one of the most painful
things you can go through, but one of the best
things you can go through growth wise. Best is
one of the best things I've ever gone through.
Yeah. For myself. For yourself. Development and
love. Correct. Correct. Journey. I'm very proud
of both of you. Thank you. I'm very proud of
all of you. I'm very proud of all of us. Thank
you. Claps, claps, claps, claps, claps. And you
know, it's part of the human experience heartbreak.
It ultimately is. And everyone goes through it
whether it not just in relationships and friendships
and it could be familial grief yeah yeah with
with everything and i think that that it is part
of life and you know it's part of humanity so
It's okay guys, you're not alone. You're not
alone. Oh no one's alone. Everyone goes through
it. That's also something that helped me too
on a side note, knowing that everyone's gone
through it. Yeah. So when I saw you come out
of your heartbreak, I was like, I'm going to
get through this. Yeah. You know? And you don't
think you are going to get through it in the
moment. You genuinely think you're going to die.
Yeah. Like it is honestly, like it's a whole
wave of grief. It's a different type of grief,
you know, and it's like, you're grieving somebody
that's still alive. Really. It's, it's really,
really. And someone who knows all parts of you.
It's almost like they say it's, it's like a drug,
like you, you know, all of your habits are linked
with them. Like it's, it's hard. You're rebuilding.
That came out recently. That's literally, I feel
like the perfect depiction of what we're talking
about. Are you so would have heard it? Yeah.
Which song? How can we go back to being friends
with you? Thank you Fifi for singing that for
us. You have so many memories attached to this
person and so much... Knowledge and just every
life. Yeah, but it's like having yeah your perfect
explanation having to navigate that when they're
literally still alive Yeah, it's really hard.
And honestly, I don't wish it upon anyone, but
I also do because it is So, so formative for
your life and I'm not the same person, you're
not the same person and you're not the same person
for having gone through some sort of heartbreak
in your life. You know, whether it's romantic
or familial or friendship or someone passing
away, like whatever it may be. Um, yeah, yeah,
I think it's really beautiful that to see you
have come out from the other side and um, You
know you are thriving and glowing and navigating
life and although you have these amazing things
happening you still feel lost don't you Faye?
Like absolutely. You still feel so lost and you
are going to feel a little bit lost for the rest
of your life. One day I think I'm on top of the
world the next day I'm not. That's part of being
in your 20s and that's the beauty of life. No
one's got their shit together. No matter how
much you try. Every single person we've spoken
to and brought up Our podcast whole like motto
is like, wow, it's not just about navigating
your 20s. It's about navigating your life. Literally.
100%. It's about navigating your life. There's
no right or wrong. You know, even everything
that I've said on here, I'm not a psychologist.
I'm not a perfect person. My opinion that I have
said on the amount of topics that we've spoken
about today could change tomorrow. Do you know
what I mean? So I'm just right here right now
on a Saturday. This is where I'm at. This is
where you guys are at night. That's absolutely.
Yeah. I'm so, so happy. Honestly, like it's,
it's been so amazing having you as a guest and
you're going to be back very, very soon. We're
going to, we're going to have to be on the pot
again. But we love you and I love you very dearly.
And we hope you guys have enjoyed the episode
just as much as we have enjoyed making it. Yeah,
chatting a whole heap of shit today. Yeah, we
hope we've said this before, but let's take our
episodes as therapy sessions and go to therapy
as well. And you just want to chat and something
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to Lost This. I just want to listen to a few
girls just chat like they are on a sleepover.
Literally. Three girls chatting. That's what
it is, we're at a sleepover right now. We're
not but like that's what it feels like. That's
the mentality. Guys, thank you so much for having
me. I love you both so much and I love you and
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