WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.799 Are you feeling lost? Well, you've come to the 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:05.219 right place. Welcome to Lost -ish, where we, 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:07.980 Rose Chachko, and Emanuella Kathriptakis, share 00:00:07.980 --> 00:00:10.160 what it's really like navigating your twenties. 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:12.900 We're two semi -lost girls figuring out careers, 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:15.820 relationships, wellness, purpose, and everything 00:00:15.820 --> 00:00:18.120 in between. Each week we dive into the highs, 00:00:18.260 --> 00:00:20.600 the lows, and lessons of chasing your dreams, 00:00:20.820 --> 00:00:23.039 finding happiness, and learning to embrace the 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:25.160 uncertainty. We're not here to pretend like we've 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:27.739 loaded all together. We're simply just figuring 00:00:27.739 --> 00:00:37.289 it out with you. Episode two, episode two. Welcome 00:00:37.289 --> 00:00:41.829 back to episode two of the Lostish podcast. We 00:00:41.829 --> 00:00:44.929 are back and better than ever. We're just kidding. 00:00:45.130 --> 00:00:47.710 We literally filmed episode one like two seconds 00:00:47.710 --> 00:00:50.920 ago. But for those of you who are here because 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.460 you listened to episode one, thank you so much. 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.100 We really, really appreciate you guys listening 00:00:56.100 --> 00:00:59.219 in and supporting. We genuinely have no idea 00:00:59.219 --> 00:01:02.640 what to expect. We're just here to help you so 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:06.239 we can help us. That's true. So this episode, 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.620 we're going to be talking about ditching the 00:01:08.620 --> 00:01:10.780 script and finding your own path. And we have 00:01:10.780 --> 00:01:14.480 a script in our hand. So we don't miss anything. 00:01:14.500 --> 00:01:17.920 Correct. So we're not like trying to slack off. 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:21.680 We want to give you all the good stuff because 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:23.560 we don't yeah, as you said, I'm just repeating 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:25.659 myself We don't want to miss out on anything. 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:29.900 Yeah, so I guess what this episode is going to 00:01:29.900 --> 00:01:34.599 sort of focus on is Finding your purpose in life 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:40.260 learning how to sort of like escape social norms 00:01:40.260 --> 00:01:44.859 and for us, obviously Coming from very European 00:01:44.859 --> 00:01:47.719 backgrounds. We sort of have these like social 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:50.980 structures and everyone sort of assumes and when 00:01:50.980 --> 00:01:53.219 we say everyone we're talking mainly the household 00:01:53.219 --> 00:01:56.239 we grew up in Not to talk down on our parents 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:58.140 by any way shape or form but we definitely came 00:01:58.140 --> 00:02:01.060 from a situation where we were in a one -size 00:02:01.060 --> 00:02:04.120 -fits -all Sort of had expectations of a one 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:06.159 -size -fits -all society Lots and lots of expectations. 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.020 Yeah, and what we mean by that is like obviously 00:02:08.020 --> 00:02:12.000 the you know, being born, growing up, going to 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.620 school, going to uni, getting a job, starting 00:02:14.620 --> 00:02:17.199 a family. Getting married, having kids, being 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:20.280 the like ideal kind of. Yeah, which by no means 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:23.259 is a bad thing. No, if you have that, I wanna 00:02:23.259 --> 00:02:26.860 be you. However, on top of that, I think that 00:02:26.860 --> 00:02:29.939 where it becomes a problem is when people start 00:02:29.939 --> 00:02:35.219 to sort of go about life doing that as a bandaid 00:02:35.219 --> 00:02:38.159 option for... Pursuing what they truly want to 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:39.960 do whether it's because they're scared to do 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:42.439 so or whether because they you know They think 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:44.500 that they won't fit into the norms of society 00:02:44.500 --> 00:02:46.479 or you know They need to impress a certain person 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:48.219 in their life or anything along those lines. 00:02:48.219 --> 00:02:50.039 So that's sort of what this episode is about 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.180 We obviously like like external influences are 00:02:53.180 --> 00:02:56.039 actually such a huge thing. We look at our parents 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:58.139 We look at our friends the peers that we surround 00:02:58.139 --> 00:03:00.580 ourselves with. Oh, you most definitely become 00:03:01.500 --> 00:03:03.860 like a product of the people you're surrounded 00:03:03.860 --> 00:03:06.219 with. The saying, you are who you surround yourself 00:03:06.219 --> 00:03:07.919 with, I actually - Could not be more true. No, 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:11.080 I truly believe in that. And I've experienced 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:14.080 it myself, where there's, you know, the people 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.400 that I hang out with, you kind of mould yourself 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:18.180 to the environment you're in, whether it's a 00:03:18.180 --> 00:03:20.159 bad environment or a good environment. Yeah, 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:21.879 and I definitely think that's why we're so different 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:24.419 as well, because our situations are pretty different 00:03:24.419 --> 00:03:28.250 too. Totally. So yeah, I think that's definitely 00:03:28.250 --> 00:03:30.569 the first thing we wanted to talk about. Now, 00:03:30.569 --> 00:03:34.210 how did we actually get to sort of half decide 00:03:34.210 --> 00:03:37.150 what we wanted to do in terms of, you know, for 00:03:37.150 --> 00:03:39.349 example, starting this podcast? So I think a 00:03:39.349 --> 00:03:43.969 couple important things is obviously too many 00:03:43.969 --> 00:03:48.280 people normalize kind of like you are yes you 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.360 are where you're supposed to be for sure however 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:54.759 on top of that it needs to be a situation where 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:59.060 people aren't overly normalizing sort of i think 00:03:59.060 --> 00:04:00.800 it's because i think what i'm trying to say is 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.560 that it's become a topic of conversation for 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:05.199 people to bond over complaining and being unhappy 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:07.139 with where they are and not knowing what they're 00:04:07.139 --> 00:04:08.939 doing with their life which is exactly what we're 00:04:08.939 --> 00:04:11.280 trying to change now how did we do that for me 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:16.720 personally i as wild as it sounds I decided to 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:18.779 have a conversation with my 80 year old self. 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:21.319 And this was something, yeah. So this was something 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:23.959 that I - Well like a physical, like you sat yourself 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:25.879 down in the mirror and you're like, 80 year old 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.620 Emanuella. I literally closed my eyes in my bed 00:04:29.620 --> 00:04:31.639 and this was something that my partner actually 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:33.439 told me to do. But I literally closed my eyes 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:35.839 in my bed and I pretended that I was holding 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:38.519 the hand of my 80 year old self and like fully 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.660 going into the zone of having a conversation 00:04:40.660 --> 00:04:44.449 with her and being like, so, What do what what 00:04:44.449 --> 00:04:46.029 what did you do? What are you happy that you 00:04:46.029 --> 00:04:48.610 did in life? and I think it's such an under if 00:04:48.610 --> 00:04:51.310 you do it well, it can be such an underestimated 00:04:51.310 --> 00:04:54.430 thing to do and This might be the first time 00:04:54.430 --> 00:04:55.889 you're hearing of doing something like this But 00:04:55.889 --> 00:04:58.610 basically she pretty much told me, you know I 00:04:58.610 --> 00:05:01.250 want to see as much of the world as I saw as 00:05:01.250 --> 00:05:02.949 much of the world as I could and I helped as 00:05:02.949 --> 00:05:06.529 many people as I could and I think that Second 00:05:06.529 --> 00:05:09.310 part that she told me this sounds so we'd say 00:05:09.310 --> 00:05:12.949 but that second part was more about That's where 00:05:12.949 --> 00:05:15.709 the spark came about, you know, starting speaking 00:05:15.709 --> 00:05:17.569 to about starting a podcast because I was like, 00:05:17.569 --> 00:05:20.269 well, how can I help people trust me before this? 00:05:20.730 --> 00:05:22.790 It was not in my realm of thinking. I know you 00:05:22.790 --> 00:05:24.850 always wanted a podcast, but for me it was, it 00:05:24.850 --> 00:05:27.110 was kind of always out of reach. I was like, 00:05:27.129 --> 00:05:28.589 well, I don't have a following. I don't come 00:05:28.589 --> 00:05:31.209 from any special background. I'm not, you know, 00:05:31.529 --> 00:05:33.889 highly qualified with 25 years of experience 00:05:33.889 --> 00:05:37.430 in anything specific, but. I did always think 00:05:37.430 --> 00:05:40.350 that I sort of had a very different mindset to 00:05:40.350 --> 00:05:42.449 people in terms of like I didn't think I had 00:05:42.449 --> 00:05:45.990 to be stuck in societal norms and that's sort 00:05:45.990 --> 00:05:49.189 of where that initiation sparked for me and also 00:05:49.189 --> 00:05:52.410 just working backwards I think is another important 00:05:52.410 --> 00:05:55.110 thing is sort of figuring out what you want that 00:05:55.110 --> 00:05:57.649 end goal to be and then sort of taking baby steps 00:05:57.649 --> 00:06:00.730 day to day that can get you closer to that path 00:06:00.730 --> 00:06:04.050 so for me it was like well okay you want to help 00:06:04.050 --> 00:06:06.709 people how can you help people? even without 00:06:06.709 --> 00:06:08.649 a following, these words might resonate with 00:06:08.649 --> 00:06:10.649 a lot of people. Yeah. So I was like, that's 00:06:10.649 --> 00:06:12.769 why I want to start, you know, possibly with 00:06:12.769 --> 00:06:15.550 a podcast, obviously doing good deeds, having 00:06:15.550 --> 00:06:18.170 faith, all of that kind of stuff. So I think 00:06:18.170 --> 00:06:20.970 that's where it started for me. We also like, 00:06:21.129 --> 00:06:24.490 I think with you and I, we have a lot of these 00:06:24.490 --> 00:06:26.430 conversations. We have a lot of sleepovers. We 00:06:26.430 --> 00:06:30.889 also have a lot of deep chats. Deep and meaningfuls. 00:06:30.889 --> 00:06:35.209 And we always just talk about the most like... 00:06:35.019 --> 00:06:37.680 I don't know what the plural of epiphanies is, 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:41.379 but like we come out, we come with such, we come 00:06:41.379 --> 00:06:44.620 out of these conversations with such revelations 00:06:44.620 --> 00:06:46.939 and epiphanies. And I feel like we have so much 00:06:46.939 --> 00:06:49.399 to say about that. And I feel like this is the 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.740 perfect kind of outlet to do that. And it was 00:06:51.740 --> 00:06:53.939 so funny because literally when we first started 00:06:53.939 --> 00:06:55.779 speaking about the podcast, we had literally 00:06:55.779 --> 00:06:59.100 just gone on a random lunch one day and we were 00:06:59.100 --> 00:07:01.120 sitting and I was like, Rose. I've had enough. 00:07:01.459 --> 00:07:04.019 Like, I've had enough of, we're almost done university. 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:05.939 Again, I know we sort of touched on this in episode 00:07:05.939 --> 00:07:08.300 one, but we had had enough with feeling like 00:07:08.300 --> 00:07:11.079 we had to sort of conform to, again, the societal 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:12.379 norms. I'm gonna use that word a lot because 00:07:12.379 --> 00:07:15.860 that's what this episode is about. But, and she 00:07:15.860 --> 00:07:18.740 so quickly jumped on my bandwagon and was like, 00:07:18.740 --> 00:07:21.639 I'm so on board, 100%. I'm exactly, like, I feel 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:26.540 like this double, like, what you feel. So. that 00:07:26.540 --> 00:07:28.519 was definitely an easy switch for us and then 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:30.379 again we very quickly realized that it was a 00:07:30.379 --> 00:07:34.620 very universal experience and again like goals 00:07:34.620 --> 00:07:37.199 can be different. Goals can absolutely be different 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:39.899 yeah and even if you don't have any goals that's 00:07:39.899 --> 00:07:43.149 okay. as long as you are on the path to figuring 00:07:43.149 --> 00:07:45.610 out what your goals are going to be. And making 00:07:45.610 --> 00:07:48.490 sure you're not covering up. This is what we 00:07:48.490 --> 00:07:50.310 sort of this is probably our biggest goal. We 00:07:50.310 --> 00:07:52.230 want to make sure that you're fully pursuing 00:07:52.230 --> 00:07:54.410 exactly what you want to be pursuing in your 00:07:54.410 --> 00:07:57.509 life. And I know a lot of people have these goals. 00:07:57.529 --> 00:07:59.649 And when I say goals can be different, I mean, 00:07:59.750 --> 00:08:02.149 goals can be different for each and every person 00:08:02.149 --> 00:08:05.050 individually. Like my goals. Look, we actually 00:08:05.050 --> 00:08:06.550 have very similar goals. I was going to say my 00:08:06.550 --> 00:08:08.939 goals are different to yours. but they are similar 00:08:08.939 --> 00:08:11.779 but they're also different like we have two different 00:08:11.779 --> 00:08:15.180 aspirations in life but it's the same kind of 00:08:15.180 --> 00:08:17.519 thing is like you said you want to you want to 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:19.319 see as much of the world and you want to help 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:21.100 as many people as you can and i think that's 00:08:21.100 --> 00:08:24.139 kind of the basis of what i want to do in more 00:08:24.139 --> 00:08:29.480 of a in more of a career related sense yeah exactly 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:35.000 so and i think going from that Like Emanuela 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:38.100 said we grew up in very European households We're 00:08:38.100 --> 00:08:40.519 very we're very proud of our culture and the 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:42.559 way that we grew up and but obviously it's very 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:45.240 different to like We live in Australia by the 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.840 way if anyone's listening are overseas We live 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:50.220 in Sydney, Australia, and it's it's kind of very 00:08:50.220 --> 00:08:54.019 different to Growing up in that Aussie chill, 00:08:54.019 --> 00:08:57.899 you know lifestyle where everything's kind of 00:08:57.899 --> 00:09:00.899 all good and You know, you're just going with 00:09:00.899 --> 00:09:03.059 the flow It's a very go with the flow busy busy 00:09:03.059 --> 00:09:06.139 fast -paced lifestyle, which is which is great 00:09:06.139 --> 00:09:08.639 Like it's it's a beautiful place to live and 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:12.139 and I'm very very proud to call myself an Australian 00:09:12.139 --> 00:09:16.740 and to live in Australia But in saying that I 00:09:16.740 --> 00:09:19.720 think that also goes on in terms of what I was 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:23.659 gonna say about People could be happy doing that 00:09:23.659 --> 00:09:26.220 like genuinely but I think it's about finding 00:09:26.220 --> 00:09:28.600 happiness in what you're doing and in the journey 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:30.480 of what you're doing because that's truly what 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:32.679 it's about. No one gets from zero to a hundred 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:34.879 straight away. It's about enjoying the process 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.299 which really comes down to taking those baby 00:09:37.299 --> 00:09:39.940 steps day to day to fulfill your purpose and 00:09:39.940 --> 00:09:41.659 fulfill what you really want to be doing with 00:09:41.659 --> 00:09:43.600 your life and that could be different to anyone. 00:09:43.620 --> 00:09:48.019 So I remember thinking once like if someone you 00:09:48.019 --> 00:09:51.179 know, you could see someone Think about our grandparents, 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:54.620 for example. They used to, you know, wake up, 00:09:54.940 --> 00:09:57.620 go do the gardening, go to work, endless hours. 00:09:57.639 --> 00:09:59.480 Then you had the stay at home mums doing all 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:02.960 of that. And you see divorce rates were so far 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:05.879 down, they were happy. They're still happy doing 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:07.820 what they were doing because they were fulfilling 00:10:07.820 --> 00:10:10.980 their purpose. Now, if we weren't happy doing 00:10:10.980 --> 00:10:13.059 that, we would be unhappy. That's not to say 00:10:13.059 --> 00:10:14.860 that there's a one size fits all for happiness 00:10:14.860 --> 00:10:17.019 for everyone and enjoying that purpose. That 00:10:17.019 --> 00:10:19.159 purpose is different. So it's about finding that. 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.740 That's what matters. So and I think it's really 00:10:22.740 --> 00:10:25.860 important to say as well Comparison like a lot 00:10:25.860 --> 00:10:29.399 of the time we compare our goals and our purposes 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.240 and what we want to do in life with somebody 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:34.240 else's and sometimes you know that may make us 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.740 feel like oh wait is is My goal not enough or 00:10:37.740 --> 00:10:40.340 is my the way that I want to live my life not 00:10:40.340 --> 00:10:43.200 enough So someone's goal could be for example 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.799 to raise, you know a beautiful family and be 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:48.100 a stay -at -home mother or father for example 00:10:48.100 --> 00:10:51.750 now someone that was, you know, working a nine 00:10:51.750 --> 00:10:54.870 -to -five and that was their true desire, they 00:10:54.870 --> 00:10:56.929 would be very unhappy in their day -to -day life 00:10:56.929 --> 00:10:58.909 and I think that's what we need to try and break, 00:10:59.070 --> 00:11:01.879 is the fact that, you know... I'm not talking 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:04.539 down and again like you know a usual nine to 00:11:04.539 --> 00:11:07.100 five job and if that's what you can use to fulfill 00:11:07.100 --> 00:11:09.299 that purpose then fine but if someone is you 00:11:09.299 --> 00:11:11.620 know forced to be doing that or thinks they could 00:11:11.620 --> 00:11:13.460 be doing something better and they're not taking 00:11:13.460 --> 00:11:16.179 the actionable steps on a daily basis to become 00:11:16.179 --> 00:11:18.559 that person and fulfill that dream of theirs 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:21.019 well then they're just constantly going to be 00:11:21.019 --> 00:11:23.440 unhappy and I think that's yeah that's the most 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.620 important thing and if your goal is as simple 00:11:26.620 --> 00:11:30.320 as I want to wake up every day and I want to 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:34.110 do My goal, this is not my Rose Chachko goal, 00:11:34.350 --> 00:11:38.450 but like if your goal is my goal, is to do an 00:11:38.450 --> 00:11:41.190 hour of exercise every day because exercise makes 00:11:41.190 --> 00:11:43.690 me really happy and I want to do that every day 00:11:43.690 --> 00:11:46.409 for a whole year. Obviously excluding the days 00:11:46.409 --> 00:11:48.590 you're unwell or you've got, you know, certain 00:11:48.590 --> 00:11:50.889 circumstances come through, but like that is 00:11:50.889 --> 00:11:54.289 your goal. And if that makes you happy, go for 00:11:54.289 --> 00:11:57.669 it. Do that. Like work on that. Take active steps 00:11:57.669 --> 00:12:00.960 to do that. If half an hour a day, is a lot for 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:06.639 you. Try five. Try 30. Sorry, not 30. Try 15. 00:12:07.340 --> 00:12:09.220 Like it's... Go on a walk. Go on a walk. You'll 00:12:09.220 --> 00:12:12.159 see your happiness and your in fulfillment. Actually 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:15.080 not happiness, your fulfillment will spike on 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:17.120 a date. How good do you feel when you wake up, 00:12:17.220 --> 00:12:19.580 you do your exercise, you work towards your goals 00:12:19.580 --> 00:12:21.139 and you feel like you've had an accomplished 00:12:21.139 --> 00:12:23.789 day? I feel great. I know I feel great too. Yeah 00:12:23.789 --> 00:12:26.110 and I think we can use multiple examples like 00:12:26.110 --> 00:12:28.129 of this like if you want to talk about sort of 00:12:28.129 --> 00:12:31.370 your your acting for example like which we will 00:12:31.370 --> 00:12:34.750 definitely get into just to sort of touch on 00:12:34.750 --> 00:12:36.730 that in terms of finding your purpose I know 00:12:36.730 --> 00:12:39.570 you definitely want that to be one of your big 00:12:39.570 --> 00:12:43.570 end goals yeah um you're taking actionable steps 00:12:43.570 --> 00:12:46.669 on a day to day you're you know highly networking 00:12:46.669 --> 00:12:50.850 your you know, doing all the auditions that you 00:12:50.850 --> 00:12:53.269 can. Getting yourself out there, watching as 00:12:53.269 --> 00:12:55.830 many shows and live theatre performances. Yeah, 00:12:55.889 --> 00:12:58.230 and I think also, like even for me, like I know 00:12:58.230 --> 00:13:00.629 travelling has always been one of my biggest, 00:13:00.730 --> 00:13:03.490 biggest, biggest goals, and for you as well, 00:13:03.769 --> 00:13:05.710 but like... What actionable steps am I taking 00:13:05.710 --> 00:13:08.470 towards that? Well, I'm working quite a few hours 00:13:08.470 --> 00:13:10.909 while I'm also at university and I'm not going 00:13:10.909 --> 00:13:12.809 out there spending money on things I don't want 00:13:12.809 --> 00:13:14.730 to be spending money on. I know a lot of people 00:13:14.730 --> 00:13:18.470 have trouble, you know, with managing where their 00:13:18.470 --> 00:13:20.389 money is going. Not that it's the most important 00:13:20.389 --> 00:13:22.610 thing, especially for me, but I've realised that 00:13:22.610 --> 00:13:26.059 in order to fund that goal of mine, I can actually 00:13:26.059 --> 00:13:28.179 use the job that I have now, even though it's 00:13:28.179 --> 00:13:30.320 not what I wanna do, to actually get a step closer 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.899 to that goal. Absolutely. I think also in saying 00:13:33.899 --> 00:13:38.259 that, let's say I'm gonna use myself as an example, 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:42.120 acting is my dream and I have been doing it for 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:45.399 a very long time and we'll get into it in later 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:47.360 episodes. That will take too long. That will 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.480 take too long, but that's what I will say for 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:53.519 now. But it's, it's one of those things where 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:57.419 you, you don't want to stop your whole life to 00:13:57.419 --> 00:14:00.940 just go and accomplish this particular goal. 00:14:01.139 --> 00:14:02.600 You want to, you want to still have a good life. 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:04.360 It's truly about finding fulfillment in your 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:07.000 day to day. Balance too, right? Like if your 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:10.919 goal is to become a bodybuilder and you know, 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.220 you've got friends going out and partying and 00:14:13.220 --> 00:14:15.480 things like that. And that's something you enjoy. 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:17.379 Yeah, of course you're going to have to cut some 00:14:17.379 --> 00:14:19.950 of that out of your life to... you know, immerse 00:14:19.950 --> 00:14:22.409 yourself in training and eating well. Like, look, 00:14:22.450 --> 00:14:24.029 I don't know what it takes to be a bodybuilder 00:14:24.029 --> 00:14:27.350 because I'm far from that. But you can have a 00:14:27.350 --> 00:14:30.470 balance of that. You can find things that will 00:14:30.470 --> 00:14:33.230 work and that will still make you happy. Don't 00:14:33.230 --> 00:14:36.710 pause your whole life to be like, yes, this, 00:14:36.789 --> 00:14:38.690 this, this, and this only. And if it's not this, 00:14:38.769 --> 00:14:41.559 then I'm going to die. Because that's... Unhealthy 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:44.419 for your mental. It's also unhealthy for your 00:14:44.419 --> 00:14:47.639 physical because both connect very much. So yeah 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:50.500 I think another thing probably one of the final 00:14:50.500 --> 00:14:52.259 things that we're gonna touch on in this episode 00:14:52.259 --> 00:14:57.000 was also our I think we're both I can speak for 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.519 both of us on this one. Okay, but the nine to 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:03.519 five Lifestyle is just not for us to be honest 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.120 a big rabbit hole But I don't think anyone is 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.559 truly, truly, unless they're working towards 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:11.779 their own goal, like running their own business 00:15:11.779 --> 00:15:14.399 and putting, you know, thousands of hours into 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:17.360 that lot of their time, or working towards something 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:21.340 that, again, they're truly happy about. I think 00:15:21.340 --> 00:15:23.600 it's a bit messed up that nine to five has become 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:26.690 so normalized. Yeah. Absolutely and we have these, 00:15:26.950 --> 00:15:30.990 so Emanuel and I, we have these moments, we call 00:15:30.990 --> 00:15:34.929 them moments. We'll meet each other at the train 00:15:34.929 --> 00:15:37.830 station before we head to uni and you'll just 00:15:37.830 --> 00:15:42.080 see this whole pack. of people heads down on 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.779 their phones crossing the road walking in like 00:15:44.779 --> 00:15:47.039 there's like maybe hundreds and hundreds of these 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.320 people and the reason this is interesting to 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:51.200 us because we look at and we're like surely all 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:53.120 these people aren't doing what they want to be 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:55.759 doing surely they're not all happy like surely 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:57.720 there's something that can change about it kind 00:15:57.720 --> 00:15:59.700 of feels like big brother like it feels like 00:15:59.700 --> 00:16:04.379 we're living in this like 1984 kind of and we're 00:16:04.379 --> 00:16:07.139 all just sheep kind of doing what we're kind 00:16:07.139 --> 00:16:09.100 of supposed to be doing in this life. Very much 00:16:09.100 --> 00:16:11.559 stuck in the matrix. Stuck in the matrix, couldn't 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:13.639 have said it better myself. And these moments 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:16.419 we have a lot, we see it in the train station, 00:16:16.620 --> 00:16:17.980 we see it when we're walking through the supermarket, 00:16:18.220 --> 00:16:20.700 we see it when we're, you know, even at the movies, 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.700 like you'll just see like people so to themselves, 00:16:23.940 --> 00:16:27.539 so disconnected from human connection, it's... 00:16:27.100 --> 00:16:29.820 it's kind of scary and seeing people in this 00:16:29.820 --> 00:16:32.299 nine to five being stuck in this you know staring 00:16:32.299 --> 00:16:34.419 at a computer screen all day and again we want 00:16:34.419 --> 00:16:36.860 to emphasize nine to five where they're unhappy 00:16:36.860 --> 00:16:40.580 yes and we know this by multiple examples i can 00:16:40.580 --> 00:16:42.080 give you of people that are unhappy in their 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:43.940 night five and complaining and living for the 00:16:43.940 --> 00:16:47.659 weekend living paycheck to paycheck that's and 00:16:47.659 --> 00:16:50.779 the reason we want to sort of push you know breaking 00:16:50.779 --> 00:16:53.379 that stigma is because we truly believe that 00:16:53.379 --> 00:16:56.720 you know hearing some inspirational words could 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:58.879 push people to pursue what they really want to 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:01.700 do. It could. It takes one conversation. It actually 00:17:01.700 --> 00:17:03.799 does take one conversation because we're literally 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:05.759 sitting here from having this one conversation 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.740 about what are we doing in life? Yeah. And we 00:17:08.740 --> 00:17:10.519 were unhappy. We were not happy with what we 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:12.619 were doing. Obviously, that's to say, like... 00:17:12.619 --> 00:17:15.160 Not unhappy. There was a lot of people that were 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.339 in a much worse situation. No, of course. Of 00:17:17.339 --> 00:17:19.380 course, but I think... I think unhappy is the 00:17:19.380 --> 00:17:20.480 wrong word actually. We didn't know where we 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:24.500 were going. Unsure. We were not as fulfilled 00:17:24.500 --> 00:17:27.539 as we wanted to be with our jobs. Absolutely 00:17:27.539 --> 00:17:29.480 not. Dead end, going around in circles, band 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:34.339 -aid options. Dead end, working in retail. We're 00:17:34.339 --> 00:17:36.720 not built for that, I don't think. No. But I 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:39.500 think a lot of people... can can step out of 00:17:39.500 --> 00:17:41.000 that I think that's the biggest thing that we 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:42.839 want to get out of this episode and our podcast 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.619 as a whole is making giving people the power 00:17:45.619 --> 00:17:48.980 and you know getting that inner purpose out of 00:17:48.980 --> 00:17:52.579 them and can make a big difference it could it 00:17:52.579 --> 00:17:55.079 could make a big difference and I think obviously 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.059 we're on that path of figuring it out we have 00:17:57.059 --> 00:17:59.839 our passions we have our hobbies we have you 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:02.299 know things that we love and we're very much 00:18:02.299 --> 00:18:05.079 so figuring it out as well as everyone else which 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:08.220 I think is kind of really Really part of the 00:18:08.220 --> 00:18:10.220 process and it's really nice because I feel like 00:18:10.220 --> 00:18:12.660 I'm not alone. Oh, yeah You know because you're 00:18:12.660 --> 00:18:14.819 not you're actually so not and you feel like 00:18:14.819 --> 00:18:18.180 you know a lot of my friends I feel like sometimes 00:18:18.180 --> 00:18:20.140 I'm like, oh, they're all doing amazing things 00:18:20.140 --> 00:18:22.140 and not that I'm not doing amazing things because 00:18:22.140 --> 00:18:25.720 I truly am and I'm so very grateful for what 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:27.440 I have achieved and what I have done because 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.529 if I If I were to look back at my younger self, 00:18:31.069 --> 00:18:33.329 my younger self wouldn't have dreamed of half 00:18:33.329 --> 00:18:36.109 the stuff that I've done. So it's really beautiful 00:18:36.109 --> 00:18:37.869 to look back and be like, I have achieved all 00:18:37.869 --> 00:18:40.130 these things. But comparison, like I said before, 00:18:40.269 --> 00:18:41.970 is such a big thing of comparing yourself to 00:18:41.970 --> 00:18:44.410 other people of like, oh, but this person has 00:18:44.410 --> 00:18:46.829 achieved this, this, this, and this, and I still 00:18:46.829 --> 00:18:49.920 haven't. And it's like, well, no. that's that's 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:52.819 okay because you're on your own path and they're 00:18:52.819 --> 00:18:55.900 on their path may take you a bit longer may take 00:18:55.900 --> 00:18:58.940 you a bit slower yeah but like you're you're 00:18:58.940 --> 00:19:02.039 not going to achieve the same thing at the same 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:05.089 time if that makes sense. Yeah for sure and I 00:19:05.089 --> 00:19:06.890 think that again that sort of touches down what 00:19:06.890 --> 00:19:08.630 we spoke about in the beginning of the episode 00:19:08.630 --> 00:19:11.930 about like again like it's crazy to see how so 00:19:11.930 --> 00:19:14.009 many people have this universal experience that 00:19:14.009 --> 00:19:15.730 you were saying that you've already achieved 00:19:15.730 --> 00:19:17.529 so much and you're so grateful for what you've 00:19:17.529 --> 00:19:20.190 achieved it goes to show like even these celebrities 00:19:20.190 --> 00:19:22.589 that you hear talking about it like they everyone 00:19:22.589 --> 00:19:26.049 is truly a little bit lost yeah and that's the 00:19:26.049 --> 00:19:30.519 whole basis of our podcast yeah so yeah Everyone 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.220 is truly a little bit lost. I kind of like that. 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:35.839 I kind of want a tattoo of that so I can remind 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:39.440 myself It's true. It's really true. So we hope 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:41.980 this episode resonated with you guys Yeah, we 00:19:41.980 --> 00:19:44.359 really do and as we said before thanks for sticking 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:47.299 around and spark some inspiration Yeah, yeah 00:19:47.299 --> 00:19:49.839 work backwards from what you want your end goal 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:51.859 to be and take those actionable steps on a day 00:19:51.859 --> 00:19:53.440 -to -day basis I think that's one of the biggest 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:56.079 takeaways. Trust me. Have a conversation with 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:59.569 your 80 year old self. Yeah And if you don't 00:19:59.569 --> 00:20:01.769 know what that looks like, if you have that conversation 00:20:01.769 --> 00:20:03.069 with your eight -year -old self and you're like, 00:20:03.349 --> 00:20:04.430 oh, they don't know. Just close your eyes and 00:20:04.430 --> 00:20:06.829 think, what do I want to be remembered for? That's 00:20:06.829 --> 00:20:08.970 actually a good way. What do I want to be remembered 00:20:08.970 --> 00:20:12.170 for? If that's being a kind person, if that's 00:20:12.170 --> 00:20:14.390 being a helpful person. Could be being a beautiful 00:20:14.390 --> 00:20:17.130 mother. It could be being a millionaire. It could 00:20:17.130 --> 00:20:19.210 be opening the best, most successful business 00:20:19.210 --> 00:20:21.970 ever or running your small little business from 00:20:21.970 --> 00:20:23.930 your country town. It could be anything. But 00:20:23.930 --> 00:20:26.170 it's about figuring out that and not being scared 00:20:26.170 --> 00:20:30.589 to pursue it. 100%. So yeah, I feel inspired. 00:20:30.890 --> 00:20:32.289 I actually feel like I'm like, Oh, I need to 00:20:32.289 --> 00:20:35.289 go chase my dreams. Oh yeah, me too. So yeah, 00:20:35.450 --> 00:20:38.349 hope you enjoyed this episode of the Lostish 00:20:38.349 --> 00:20:41.970 podcast and definitely stay tuned for episode 00:20:41.970 --> 00:20:46.190 three, which we're actually going to be filming 00:20:46.190 --> 00:20:46.769 right now.