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how's everybody doing as

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some of you may know by now

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my name is dell robinson

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and this is dell for dads

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um this podcast is for

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predominantly dads that are

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going through alienation

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going through custody disputes uh dads

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that don't know that their

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rights are being violated

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if they are being violated.

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It's for the equal rights

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for dads to be parents in

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their children's lives.

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This is episode three,

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and I do want to kind of go

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a little bit backwards,

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a little bit forward,

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stay in the present with this episode.

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I do know that last time

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we

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got to talk about a little

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bit what's happening with

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my life in particular as

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far as the superior court

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and my opinion on how the

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courts maneuver

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my particular situation and

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my constitutional rights,

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along with my children's

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constitutional rights, were violated.

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this one I do, on this episode,

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I do want to dive a little

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bit more into that,

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along with possibly fixing

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some of the wording and how

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it may be portrayed for a future

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future, I don't know,

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future allegations against me,

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anything that just might

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not benefit my kids in the

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situation that we're currently in.

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I am going to talk about

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things that have happened

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since the last episode.

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I do want to talk about

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things going on moving

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forward and what this

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podcast is going to look

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like for the time being

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until we get more into a

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space where we can kind of go deeper,

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I suppose.

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So yeah, so last episode,

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I spoke on my current order

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between myself for my

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children and their mother.

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in the beginning,

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I wanna say probably even

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the first two and a half minutes,

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I spoke on the courts not

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really being in for the

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best interests of the children,

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although it does state in

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their statutes that they

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should or they do.

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It's not the courts.

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they're just like in police departments,

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just like in schools,

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just like in life in general.

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There are both good and bad, right?

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So let me go ahead and go

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back a little bit on what's happening now,

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okay?

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So the current

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standing of my situation.

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Still currently trying to be

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alienated out of my

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children's lives from their mother.

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And again,

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I wanted to utilize videos with

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evidence backing what I'm

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saying in these podcasts.

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Right now,

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I'm kind of navigating through

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some things.

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So let me back that up a

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little bit even more and

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kind of present wise as well.

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And when I say we, my team,

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my family's collective team of support,

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we've decided to go ahead

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and start a GoFundMe.

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As sure as many of you may

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have known or are figuring out,

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could just assume,

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may know that the court

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process is not a cheap, inexpensive,

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whatever adjective we want

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to kind of describe the

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financial burden going

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through the court system can be.

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So I called upon my community.

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We decided that doing a

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GoFundMe explaining

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without going into too much

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detail or even really putting ourselves,

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putting

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What we've worked so hard

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for just to get where we are right now,

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being able to be seen for an appeal,

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we have to tiptoe.

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There's a lot of video

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evidence that's out there

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already from other parents,

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fathers that have tried to,

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and maybe they just didn't

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go the right route,

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but they try to speak their mind.

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And because of this,

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it was used against them.

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and that's exactly what

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we're not trying to do

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right my opinion is

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strictly my own opinion

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i

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cannot speak on behalf of

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anybody else right so with

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that being said there is a

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gofundme you can find it on

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my own personal facebook page

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I can put a link in here.

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I will try to do that as far

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as the video portion of

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this podcast goes.

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I will also put a link to

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this podcast's description

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for a link to find that GoFundMe.

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And just sharing it would be

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more help than you could ever imagine.

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even though, yes,

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the funds definitely help.

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That's the whole point of it, right?

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Spreading the message is

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more important to me right

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now because one way or the other,

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I will figure out financials

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um thankfully i have an

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amazing lawyer

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and i'm here

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to say that not just like

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we were talking about

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before that not all lawyers

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are ingrained in the system

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so deeply that

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becomes this play where

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everybody has their part

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because it's already like

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that everybody does have

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their part and they're

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supposed to be playing that

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part as far as what is

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written out sometimes that

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doesn't always happen right

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so there is gofundme

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And this is kind of where

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this episode plays a very

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strange part in all of this.

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Because this episode will be

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the first episode of not

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strictly just about this particular,

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my particular case.

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and um starts kind of

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trailing onto other

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people's stories right

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and from there we kind of

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go backwards back into my

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my particular case and the

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reason for that again is

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strictly just to i i guess

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play by the rules that are

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there right

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I don't need a muzzle order

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put against me.

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I don't need any type of

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questioning of is this

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slander because he's talking about it.

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Nothing that I'm talking or

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speaking about is false, right?

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I showed you in our last episode,

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if you watched the video, you saw

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You saw the order.

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Nothing that I was talking

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about about that order was false.

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There's evidence to back that up.

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As far as releasing audio transcript,

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as far as releasing written

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transcript on that particular case,

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on my particular case that

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has just passed that we are appealing,

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I cannot release that yet.

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is there a chance that i

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will not

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release it ever there is

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that small chance um

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because i don't know how

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long this part this case

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will go because we are an

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appeal we are just waiting

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for a date right and i

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don't need any extra false

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fuel that they'll take and twist

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of any of these videos

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around just to kind of

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defeat all that we've been

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fighting for to right the injustice.

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And it's not a small

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injustice by any means, right?

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But there's a particular way

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that the game must be played.

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And we're just rolling with

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the punches as they say.

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so going back again now

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we're going to go back to

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present how things have

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been since the last episode

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um

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and things have been worse

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right

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again just

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like i guess i said in the

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first video i honestly

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thought we were going into

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court with fifty fifty

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Found out the morning of

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that was not the case.

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And then find out that my

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children are potentially

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being moved to a different

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state with someone they barely know.

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We just finished April

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vacation and Easter.

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I'm pretty sure you saw in that order.

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I'm not going to pull all

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that stuff up and let you

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guys read it all over again.

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That is in the last video.

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If you would like to go back

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and look at all that,

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more than welcome to.

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in the order,

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it does tell you who goes

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with holidays and all this stuff.

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other stuff essentially you

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are being told how the rest

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of their lives until they

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turn should pan out um

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unless the families decide

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to go back to court to

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adjust modify uh that order

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so worse is how it's been

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Knowing that I was getting

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ready to not see my

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children for three weeks,

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I decided that it was time, right?

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It was time for me to go

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ahead and face the crowd.

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From the order until a couple of weeks ago,

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I had not showed up for

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pickups and drop-offs,

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mostly because I didn't

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want to see my children's moms.

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Once I figured that the

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routine that they were

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always in with her continued,

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I decided that, okay,

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I can time this out where I

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can still see my kids in

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the morning and kind of just avoid her.

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Since that plan,

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we've had to adjust that plan.

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I guess we'll go into that in a second.

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with that plan,

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in place my my thought was

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okay i can see them avoid

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her they know that you know

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even though they're gonna

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not see me for a longer

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period than they're used to

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mind you this is the

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longest i had ever gone

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without seeing any of my

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kids minus my daughter uh

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again because for her first full year i

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maybe and maybe not got to

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see her on a day-to-day

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basis um well i got to see

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the boys day one of me

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going okay we're gonna go

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see the kids and i'm gonna

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see the kids in the morning

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And I bring my wife with me mostly, one,

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to have an eyewitness,

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although we know that it

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doesn't stand a whole lot of weight.

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It doesn't hold a whole lot

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of weight as far as biasness.

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But we also utilize video recording.

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And that is kind of why she's also there,

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not just as an eyewitness,

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but to be able to have that

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capability of being able to

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show the truth.

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without anybody kind of saying, nope,

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this is what happened on my side.

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This is what happened on my side.

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Um, so when I show up on day one,

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it was for pickup because

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school was over.

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because I knew that my youngest

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was picked up last,

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that I would just show up there.

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And as she went to go pick up my daughter,

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I would say hi to the boys real quick.

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And then figured she would

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just let my daughter run over real quick,

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say hi, and then go about her day.

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day I get there.

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She goes in,

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leaves the boys in the car unattended.

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I get out of my car.

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I walk over and my middle

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child gets out of his car seat.

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He then

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opens the door because he's

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excited to see me he opens

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the door gets out of the

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vehicle and starts hugging

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me and he's again excited

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to see me my oldest at that

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point doesn't see his mom

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is like okay my dad's here

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probably can get out he

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gets out i believe that day

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i either brought them like

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like mozz gummies or a ring

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pop or something

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they run to the front of

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the car and go to the gate

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where their mom,

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because they at that point

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could hear their mom, I think, talking.

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And she does this loud audible gasp.

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I can imagine it was

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because she thought they

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had just gotten out of the car.

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And she was like, you know,

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how did you guys get out of the car?

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How long have you been out of the car?

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What are you doing out of the car?

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um when she realizes that

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i'm standing there she then

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plays like oh okay like

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you're here right um i do

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get to see my daughter that

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day and i again believe

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this was theatrics okay

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And I apologize because day

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one was actually semi-okay

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because it was the next,

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I believe it was the next day.

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And I couldn't even be

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getting that one wrong,

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to be quite honest with you,

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just because these next two

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really trumped how any of

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this could have gone.

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I do know that in one of the days,

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and I do believe it was the

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very first day, everything was fine.

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It was a quick encounter, me saying hi,

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saying bye, asking how their days went,

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tell them I love them,

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and then that was it.

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I was gone.

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It was the morning.

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It was one of the mornings.

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I think this was the first

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morning where it really

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kind of bubbled up, where I show up.

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morning of and my daughter's

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already dropped off at daycare,

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which is across the street

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from where my boys go to school.

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So I get out of the car

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because I figured I again

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could just say hi to them on their very,

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very short walk or on the

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sidewalk into the school grounds,

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could say hi,

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and wish them wish them a good day and

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Let them just know that

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they're loved and this, you know,

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their dad is here.

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I'm going to always be here.

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Instead turns into their mother pretending,

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again, there's this huge emergency,

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like they were about to be

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taken or something.

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She picks up

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my four-year-old and is

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holding him and kind of

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tries to just barrage them right past me.

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So that way they can't say hi, can't just,

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again, can't give me a hug.

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I want no type of

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communication with their mom.

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I'm purposefully not making

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eye contact with her, looking at them,

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letting them know that I am

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literally here for them.

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before that,

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she purposely waited in the

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vehicle just so there was

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maybe this much time where

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I'd be able to say hi.

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Nonetheless, she gets out of the car.

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and starts walking around

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like there's a dog chasing her,

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like a Pitbull, Rottweiler,

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German Shepherd type dog

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kind of off leash coming after her.

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And it was crazy to watch

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because knowing that the

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people she was playing this

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out to know me, they've seen me,

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they've seen me interact

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with not just my own children,

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with other people's children.

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And then some of those

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parents that were also

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there have also brought

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their own children to me to, you know,

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because of the services that I provide.

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Again,

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I'm a body piercers and we don't

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live in a very large place.

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So we live in a place where

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kind of everyone knows everyone, right?

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a lot of this, I think, was just so

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amazing to me because a lot

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of these parents didn't

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even know this was

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happening until these

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things started happening

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was not needed right for any

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other reason other than

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trying to portray someone

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for what they aren't so she

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didn't get the rise that i

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think she was hoping out of

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me by doing this i said hi

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to my old discs i got the

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chance to and i had to walk

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away you know then the pickup

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is where it really got wild

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because I wasn't able to

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say hi to my middle child, really.

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I decided to show up for pickup.

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And again,

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went to pick up at my daughter's

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daycare because I knew that

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all three of them were there.

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And in my mind, I figured, okay,

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if you're just going to

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leave them in the vehicle,

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no harm in me being there to say hi.

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Did not happen this way.

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This time she decided to

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take the boys out of the vehicle.

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And instead of just, again,

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letting them come say hi to me,

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turns my oldest and starts

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pushing him to walk away.

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And I'm not going to act

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like it was an aggressive push,

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just kind of like shuffle

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him along kind of deal.

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I don't want this to be

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portrayed for anything that it's not.

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So she shuffles the oldest

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along while now my middle

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child is visibly distraught

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knowing that I'm there and

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just wanting to come say hi

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and give me a video proof of that.

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And I will release that.

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And there...

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was crying and once they got

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around the corner where he

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couldn't see me, he got louder, right?

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at this point,

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my kid's mother didn't realize,

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I don't think she didn't

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realize that my daughter

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was actually out on the

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play area outside with the

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rest of her class

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she went inside ended up

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grabbing the bags um coming

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outside of the school she

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goes on to the play area

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and really turns on the

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waterworks here at this

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point the daycare

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a supervisor

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of some sort i'm not really

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entirely sure of her

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position off the top of my

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head um does

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interfere now right at first

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it was kind of like a

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concern which is great

00:18:28.324 --> 00:18:29.846
having a concern great

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because now i know that my

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child should be protected

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in that situations if

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anybody comes and tries to

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like do anything erratic

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right i then start seeing

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this lady hugging my kid's mom and i

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Kind of figured at this point.

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Maybe consoling her because

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there's children around and

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you don't really need the

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hysterics of an adult

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that's holding a

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four-year-old while her

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two-year-old's walking and

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the seven-year-old's kind

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of standing there looking

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confused while their dad... And again,

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I really don't like to play this card,

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but when it looks, smells, feels...

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like something it usually is

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right but you have this

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crying mother what seems to

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be this crying mother

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afraid of something right

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um and a man bearded

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tattooed pierced black in a

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predominantly white place

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it might bring some concern

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it might bring fear

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why i don't know should it

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not in this particular

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circumstance because when

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you know the person there's

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no way that this situation

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should have went the way it

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did shortly after this

00:19:44.087 --> 00:19:46.088
little crying consoling

00:19:46.128 --> 00:19:48.289
situation happened my kid's

00:19:48.329 --> 00:19:49.169
mother and my three

00:19:49.189 --> 00:19:51.250
children start walking out

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back into like the

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a gated area that's right

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before the play outside area.

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My four-year-old is reaching

00:20:01.132 --> 00:20:03.393
out for me and then goes,

00:20:03.874 --> 00:20:05.075
can I go see dad?

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In which his mother tells him, no,

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I just want to get in the

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car and go away.

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This is so inappropriate.

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she wasn't wrong.

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She wasn't wrong.

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It was very inappropriate.

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oh after saying that i

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quickly realized that

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there's scratches all over

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my my daughter's face and i

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asked what happened to you

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what happened to your face

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and her mother turns around

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whether she's realizing

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this is like wow this is

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the first time he's

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actually seeing this didn't

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get to tell him or whatever

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it was this it was the

00:20:38.976 --> 00:20:40.358
simple fact that she turns around

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pretty much grabs my

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daughter by the hand and

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kind of just gets out of that area,

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right?

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Once she hits the gate,

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then proceeds to tell me

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that she will call the police on me.

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and that I'm not allowed to

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be around her or that I'm

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allowed to be on the

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property of these places.

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I'm not allowed to be around

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her or my children.

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in which I then ask where

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she read this or was given

00:21:02.752 --> 00:21:07.562
this information, which was just met by a,

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that she is afraid

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of me and doesn't like me.

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that statement alone, I mean,

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I guess if you...

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said either or one one could

00:21:18.353 --> 00:21:21.794
definitely be true when you

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have the other but it's

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just in what she's saying

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how she's saying it and

00:21:27.757 --> 00:21:29.457
where she's saying it that

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make it a problem because

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she's a she's definitely

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you know entitled to feel

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the way she wants to feel

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she doesn't have to like me

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that's why we're not

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together

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But it's not okay to voice

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those two things,

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whether you feel they're

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true or not in front of the

00:21:45.780 --> 00:21:48.400
children where legally

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you're bound to portray a

00:21:52.741 --> 00:21:55.445
positive picture for these children.

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because these children

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aren't afraid of me.

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These children don't not like me.

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Well, it's true, they don't like me,

00:22:03.535 --> 00:22:05.716
as Atlas, my middle child will say,

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he loves

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it's wild that these things can happen.

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And then in front of other

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people that pretend, in my opinion,

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and here we go with this,

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that they're for the best

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interest of the children.

00:22:21.628 --> 00:22:23.945
I was about to leave,

00:22:24.706 --> 00:22:26.347
but then I really started, I guess,

00:22:26.427 --> 00:22:28.649
thinking about how that just played out,

00:22:29.250 --> 00:22:30.680
how that situation just played out

00:22:31.146 --> 00:22:32.627
When I started walking away,

00:22:32.687 --> 00:22:34.289
immediately my mind said,

00:22:34.549 --> 00:22:38.327
how was that okay?

00:22:38.507 --> 00:22:40.169
So my next thought was maybe

00:22:40.209 --> 00:22:41.069
they don't have an order.

00:22:42.471 --> 00:22:44.052
So I asked my wife for one

00:22:44.092 --> 00:22:45.233
of the many orders that we

00:22:45.273 --> 00:22:47.115
ended up printing out for

00:22:47.415 --> 00:22:49.937
instances like this that may arise.

00:22:50.838 --> 00:22:51.999
And I start bringing the

00:22:52.059 --> 00:22:55.682
order to the supervisor in

00:22:55.722 --> 00:22:56.803
charge is what we'll call her.

00:22:57.563 --> 00:22:58.243
As I approach her,

00:22:58.383 --> 00:22:59.764
I let her know that I'm

00:22:59.804 --> 00:23:01.285
bringing her one and she

00:23:01.345 --> 00:23:02.846
informs me that she has one

00:23:02.906 --> 00:23:03.821
already in her desk.

00:23:03.984 --> 00:23:07.123
So now I'm way more confused at this point,

00:23:07.353 --> 00:23:09.034
Because then if you have the

00:23:09.254 --> 00:23:11.175
order that says that I can

00:23:11.255 --> 00:23:13.556
literally come and say hi to my children,

00:23:14.397 --> 00:23:16.798
I'm not really sure why,

00:23:18.165 --> 00:23:20.446
this issue is becoming a thing,

00:23:20.715 --> 00:23:23.337
then state that there is

00:23:23.597 --> 00:23:25.858
nothing in this order that

00:23:25.938 --> 00:23:28.460
says we cannot be on the, if in fact,

00:23:28.820 --> 00:23:30.021
it says that we are

00:23:30.101 --> 00:23:31.682
encouraged to participate

00:23:31.942 --> 00:23:33.383
in both schooling events,

00:23:33.603 --> 00:23:34.564
after school events,

00:23:34.584 --> 00:23:35.725
we can be on the same

00:23:35.805 --> 00:23:38.046
premises and all these other things.

00:23:38.086 --> 00:23:40.948
And in fact, there is no history of abuse

00:23:41.432 --> 00:23:42.752
right when I finished that sentence,

00:23:43.113 --> 00:23:45.373
she literally asks me if

00:23:45.413 --> 00:23:47.534
we're able to be on the same premises,

00:23:47.954 --> 00:23:48.995
on the same campus is

00:23:49.075 --> 00:23:49.932
actually what she asked.

00:23:50.164 --> 00:23:52.684
I knew that there was zero

00:23:52.914 --> 00:23:54.915
information on my end that

00:23:54.975 --> 00:23:56.755
I was giving to this woman

00:23:57.187 --> 00:23:58.004
that was registering,

00:23:58.245 --> 00:23:59.385
that was gonna benefit my

00:23:59.425 --> 00:24:00.685
kids in any way.

00:24:01.426 --> 00:24:04.787
She already bought in

00:24:05.210 --> 00:24:06.600
to a different story.

00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.241
So I turn around.

00:24:08.321 --> 00:24:10.781
As I turn around, I then see an officer.

00:24:11.261 --> 00:24:13.042
And I go, oh, all right,

00:24:13.062 --> 00:24:13.922
guess she wasn't kidding.

00:24:14.242 --> 00:24:15.022
Guess she really was going

00:24:15.042 --> 00:24:15.712
to call the police.

00:24:15.905 --> 00:24:17.826
So I approach the fence

00:24:18.146 --> 00:24:19.506
because I'm getting ready to leave.

00:24:20.086 --> 00:24:22.507
The officer's introducing himself.

00:24:22.927 --> 00:24:24.187
We then realize that we have

00:24:24.547 --> 00:24:25.567
met each other before.

00:24:26.547 --> 00:24:29.168
And this was because I had

00:24:29.900 --> 00:24:32.480
processed no trespass

00:24:32.620 --> 00:24:34.140
order on my kid's mother.

00:24:34.700 --> 00:24:36.421
And this was because of others.

00:24:37.001 --> 00:24:37.681
It was because she was

00:24:37.721 --> 00:24:38.881
coming into the parlor that

00:24:38.961 --> 00:24:42.182
I work at and recording, not just me,

00:24:42.222 --> 00:24:44.262
but recording clients.

00:24:44.719 --> 00:24:47.340
And although in a public space,

00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:49.300
it is okay to record,

00:24:49.661 --> 00:24:51.221
legal to record people with

00:24:51.541 --> 00:24:52.601
or without their consent,

00:24:52.913 --> 00:24:53.974
it's the fact that she went

00:24:54.074 --> 00:24:55.074
into a business

00:24:55.580 --> 00:24:57.241
while there's business hours

00:24:57.281 --> 00:25:00.028
being had because of what

00:25:00.169 --> 00:25:02.811
she felt was not right.

00:25:03.191 --> 00:25:04.732
And what was happening is that I,

00:25:05.161 --> 00:25:07.703
I had to do a very quick service,

00:25:07.723 --> 00:25:09.020
a fifteen minute service.

00:25:09.145 --> 00:25:10.386
I picked up my children and

00:25:10.446 --> 00:25:11.407
instead of getting them out

00:25:11.447 --> 00:25:14.249
of the vehicle, upstairs,

00:25:14.910 --> 00:25:15.910
make them wait fifteen

00:25:15.930 --> 00:25:18.352
minutes just to go back downstairs,

00:25:18.653 --> 00:25:20.534
to get back in the car, to go home,

00:25:21.335 --> 00:25:23.108
my wife took my vehicle and

00:25:23.128 --> 00:25:26.251
brought them home.

00:25:26.271 --> 00:25:27.752
When she kept her vehicle here,

00:25:28.286 --> 00:25:30.348
And then I was to take that

00:25:30.388 --> 00:25:32.470
home after I finished up.

00:25:32.950 --> 00:25:34.752
So, twenty minutes.

00:25:34.772 --> 00:25:36.293
Then it took, maybe,

00:25:36.733 --> 00:25:38.094
we were living someplace

00:25:38.194 --> 00:25:38.935
different at that point.

00:25:40.036 --> 00:25:42.378
Maybe eight,

00:25:43.019 --> 00:25:44.600
we'll go on a busy traffic day,

00:25:44.660 --> 00:25:46.081
twelve minutes for me to get home.

00:25:46.101 --> 00:25:47.763
So, thirty minutes, we'll say,

00:25:47.803 --> 00:25:49.664
is all I'd be away from

00:25:49.684 --> 00:25:50.365
when they were picked up

00:25:50.385 --> 00:25:52.827
from me until I got home.

00:25:53.421 --> 00:25:54.502
Police were threatened on that one.

00:25:55.523 --> 00:25:56.003
Thankfully,

00:25:56.063 --> 00:25:57.725
that did not happen on that occasion.

00:25:58.326 --> 00:25:59.407
But nonetheless,

00:25:59.747 --> 00:26:01.769
always being threatened by police.

00:26:01.909 --> 00:26:03.510
So even though I already

00:26:03.590 --> 00:26:04.711
knew this police officer,

00:26:04.872 --> 00:26:06.738
I kind of didn't know.

00:26:07.018 --> 00:26:07.579
You don't know.

00:26:07.779 --> 00:26:08.680
You don't know what's going

00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:09.801
to happen in the situation.

00:26:09.941 --> 00:26:11.623
You don't know what's going

00:26:11.643 --> 00:26:12.744
to happen in the situation

00:26:13.164 --> 00:26:15.446
when you're a person that looks like me,

00:26:15.987 --> 00:26:16.287
right?

00:26:16.948 --> 00:26:18.329
And that...

00:26:19.311 --> 00:26:20.632
is the reality of it.

00:26:20.752 --> 00:26:21.733
And I'm not gonna sit here

00:26:21.753 --> 00:26:25.175
and ever pretend like this

00:26:25.395 --> 00:26:26.996
is not going to happen to me.

00:26:27.096 --> 00:26:29.618
And even though I am known

00:26:29.658 --> 00:26:30.679
within my community,

00:26:31.179 --> 00:26:32.360
it does not mean that that

00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:34.561
cannot happen to me.

00:26:34.721 --> 00:26:36.763
Very shortly after kind of

00:26:36.783 --> 00:26:37.683
speaking to this first

00:26:37.764 --> 00:26:39.545
officer and explaining to

00:26:39.585 --> 00:26:40.425
him what was happening,

00:26:40.766 --> 00:26:42.106
we walk over to my vehicle

00:26:42.587 --> 00:26:43.579
so I can get him in order.

00:26:43.974 --> 00:26:45.375
As we approach that vehicle,

00:26:45.735 --> 00:26:46.776
the second officer is

00:26:46.816 --> 00:26:47.677
already walking over.

00:26:48.734 --> 00:26:50.475
So I go, okay,

00:26:50.495 --> 00:26:51.815
can you get two orders for us?

00:26:52.336 --> 00:26:54.136
So my wife reaches up in the back,

00:26:54.536 --> 00:26:55.517
grabs two orders.

00:26:56.297 --> 00:26:57.998
As I turn to give two orders,

00:26:58.998 --> 00:27:00.519
third officer is approaching.

00:27:00.787 --> 00:27:02.827
I spoke to the first officer,

00:27:02.887 --> 00:27:04.087
he did explain that when

00:27:04.147 --> 00:27:06.608
dispatch reports certain calls,

00:27:07.157 --> 00:27:09.398
the officers kind of just show up.

00:27:10.009 --> 00:27:12.050
Again, hindsight being what it is,

00:27:12.711 --> 00:27:14.171
I'm thankful that that many

00:27:14.251 --> 00:27:15.852
officers showed up that

00:27:15.892 --> 00:27:18.234
quickly in the event that

00:27:18.454 --> 00:27:19.995
my child had been in danger

00:27:20.015 --> 00:27:21.135
at that school, right?

00:27:22.017 --> 00:27:22.957
I will say that the three

00:27:24.178 --> 00:27:25.119
officers that showed up

00:27:25.139 --> 00:27:28.601
that day were definitely level-headed,

00:27:30.021 --> 00:27:34.484
understanding, empathetic, compassionate,

00:27:35.292 --> 00:27:37.213
individuals i i think that

00:27:37.333 --> 00:27:40.021
they were the best humans

00:27:40.061 --> 00:27:41.522
for the job that was given

00:27:41.642 --> 00:27:43.763
at that point in time and i

00:27:43.803 --> 00:27:44.724
hope that that is how they

00:27:44.764 --> 00:27:47.025
carry themselves for any

00:27:47.565 --> 00:27:49.446
call that they have to and

00:27:49.486 --> 00:27:50.887
this is coming from a

00:27:50.927 --> 00:27:51.908
military police officer

00:27:51.948 --> 00:27:53.789
myself i was in the army i

00:27:53.829 --> 00:27:55.450
was a police officer and

00:27:56.310 --> 00:27:58.712
when you're called to any

00:27:59.286 --> 00:28:00.467
Anything, any type of call.

00:28:00.487 --> 00:28:01.307
It doesn't matter if it's a

00:28:01.347 --> 00:28:02.387
domestic dispute.

00:28:02.427 --> 00:28:04.989
It doesn't matter if it's any call.

00:28:05.009 --> 00:28:07.990
You do not know what you're going into.

00:28:08.150 --> 00:28:09.030
It doesn't matter if there's

00:28:09.050 --> 00:28:10.471
a cat stuck in the tree, right,

00:28:10.991 --> 00:28:12.272
to go save that cat coming

00:28:12.312 --> 00:28:12.672
out of the tree.

00:28:12.952 --> 00:28:15.173
Anything in that situation can happen,

00:28:15.639 --> 00:28:16.079
truly,

00:28:16.139 --> 00:28:20.043
depending on the surroundings of the area,

00:28:20.383 --> 00:28:21.384
the people involved.

00:28:21.444 --> 00:28:22.804
There's a lot of unknowns

00:28:22.884 --> 00:28:24.385
going into a call.

00:28:24.953 --> 00:28:26.034
They handled it well and I

00:28:26.074 --> 00:28:27.575
cannot be thankful enough.

00:28:27.835 --> 00:28:29.556
And I'm proud to be in a

00:28:29.616 --> 00:28:33.246
place where I went into a

00:28:33.306 --> 00:28:35.395
situation and nothing that

00:28:35.775 --> 00:28:37.657
I personally worry about

00:28:37.797 --> 00:28:39.258
and know that other people

00:28:40.498 --> 00:28:43.100
of likeness would worry about.

00:28:43.901 --> 00:28:46.949
And it went completely not that way,

00:28:47.009 --> 00:28:47.530
thankfully.

00:28:48.311 --> 00:28:49.892
So we talked to the three officers,

00:28:49.952 --> 00:28:52.714
they give us their input as

00:28:52.774 --> 00:28:54.475
far as what I should do.

00:28:54.495 --> 00:28:57.977
You know,

00:28:57.997 --> 00:28:59.618
told me to go back to modify the

00:28:59.738 --> 00:29:00.479
order in court.

00:29:00.899 --> 00:29:02.160
I then explained to them

00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.201
that we had already done that,

00:29:05.842 --> 00:29:06.943
explained to them that we

00:29:07.183 --> 00:29:09.604
have an appeal that was granted

00:29:09.930 --> 00:29:13.871
also kind of just waiting,

00:29:14.071 --> 00:29:14.832
playing the waiting game.

00:29:14.852 --> 00:29:15.772
But in the meantime,

00:29:16.092 --> 00:29:16.952
just wanting to see my

00:29:17.012 --> 00:29:18.113
children because I'm not

00:29:18.133 --> 00:29:18.813
going to see them for the

00:29:18.833 --> 00:29:19.473
next three weeks.

00:29:19.625 --> 00:29:20.699
that goes away.

00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.001
Next morning, I show up for pickups again.

00:29:25.346 --> 00:29:26.466
This time I text her to let

00:29:26.486 --> 00:29:27.907
her know that I just want

00:29:27.927 --> 00:29:28.667
to say hi to the kids.

00:29:29.447 --> 00:29:30.907
Hi, bye, and I'm out of there.

00:29:31.425 --> 00:29:32.845
I get a response of,

00:29:33.670 --> 00:29:34.591
I'm in the process of

00:29:34.631 --> 00:29:36.252
getting a restraining order on you.

00:29:37.092 --> 00:29:38.473
Please leave me alone during

00:29:38.554 --> 00:29:39.688
my time kids."

00:29:39.748 --> 00:29:42.410
Her time that she's referring to, again,

00:29:42.470 --> 00:29:43.171
I want to point out,

00:29:43.491 --> 00:29:44.332
is my daughter being

00:29:44.372 --> 00:29:46.353
dropped off way earlier

00:29:46.393 --> 00:29:48.355
than what I would imagine she needs to.

00:29:49.615 --> 00:29:49.836
Again,

00:29:49.876 --> 00:29:51.677
being because my daughter's daycare

00:29:51.697 --> 00:29:54.959
is across the street from my boy's school,

00:29:54.999 --> 00:29:55.320
okay?

00:29:56.193 --> 00:29:58.014
While the adult in the vehicle,

00:29:58.174 --> 00:30:00.235
their mother is just

00:30:00.275 --> 00:30:01.156
sitting there on her phone.

00:30:01.749 --> 00:30:03.590
So when I get on the second day,

00:30:03.630 --> 00:30:04.810
I stand away from her

00:30:04.850 --> 00:30:08.612
vehicle and I just stand and I stand

00:30:09.326 --> 00:30:10.147
And I'm standing pointing

00:30:10.447 --> 00:30:11.467
facing towards the car.

00:30:11.547 --> 00:30:12.528
And the reason for this is

00:30:12.568 --> 00:30:14.189
because I'm recording at this point.

00:30:15.290 --> 00:30:17.751
I need evidence to show that

00:30:17.792 --> 00:30:19.313
the alienation is true and

00:30:19.373 --> 00:30:20.033
it's happening.

00:30:20.954 --> 00:30:22.935
So I have my oldest waving

00:30:22.975 --> 00:30:25.577
to me in the backseat, kind of looking,

00:30:25.617 --> 00:30:26.157
making sure.

00:30:27.443 --> 00:30:29.544
You know, he's not being seen, I guess.

00:30:29.604 --> 00:30:30.945
I don't really, it was weird.

00:30:31.345 --> 00:30:33.366
But we're kind of like high signaling,

00:30:33.426 --> 00:30:34.326
kind of low key.

00:30:34.907 --> 00:30:36.548
And my middle child is at

00:30:36.628 --> 00:30:37.748
first against the window

00:30:37.788 --> 00:30:39.469
trying to roll it down, say hi,

00:30:39.749 --> 00:30:40.409
trying to get out.

00:30:41.030 --> 00:30:42.871
And his mother says something to him.

00:30:44.311 --> 00:30:47.333
And he's just now facing this way, right?

00:30:47.764 --> 00:30:49.805
when it's time because she's

00:30:49.865 --> 00:30:50.845
waiting to the very last

00:30:50.885 --> 00:30:52.385
second when it's time for

00:30:52.865 --> 00:30:54.626
my oldest to have to kind

00:30:54.686 --> 00:30:57.007
of go into the school she

00:30:57.547 --> 00:30:59.327
gathers the kids exits out

00:30:59.347 --> 00:31:00.788
the driver's side vehicle

00:31:01.888 --> 00:31:03.268
comes around to get the

00:31:03.608 --> 00:31:06.069
kids bags and everything um

00:31:06.089 --> 00:31:07.149
my oldest he gets the bag

00:31:07.349 --> 00:31:09.690
on and he gets like huddled

00:31:09.830 --> 00:31:12.131
over by her right now she's

00:31:12.171 --> 00:31:13.551
getting my middle child

00:31:13.611 --> 00:31:16.292
ready she's backpacking him picks him up

00:31:16.874 --> 00:31:17.775
and starts walking.

00:31:19.396 --> 00:31:21.017
And now there's a sidewalk

00:31:21.057 --> 00:31:22.999
that goes along a fence

00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.061
line to the yard of the school.

00:31:27.062 --> 00:31:29.523
And there's this rotary kind

00:31:29.543 --> 00:31:32.165
of roundabout for when they do pick up,

00:31:32.326 --> 00:31:33.667
drop off some vehicles and

00:31:33.687 --> 00:31:35.948
the buses will pull up and

00:31:35.988 --> 00:31:37.269
drop the kids off, pick them up.

00:31:37.810 --> 00:31:41.412
And in the morning, it gets kind of busy,

00:31:41.913 --> 00:31:42.493
gets pretty busy.

00:31:43.028 --> 00:31:44.069
Again, instead of just

00:31:45.408 --> 00:31:46.869
of two things just get on

00:31:46.889 --> 00:31:47.850
the sidewalk let my kids

00:31:47.870 --> 00:31:48.891
run up to me and say hi

00:31:48.951 --> 00:31:50.252
real quick hope you guys

00:31:50.272 --> 00:31:51.913
have a good day i love you

00:31:53.695 --> 00:31:55.436
you know the kisses and

00:31:56.657 --> 00:31:59.159
send them off and that way

00:31:59.179 --> 00:32:00.320
they got to see both their

00:32:00.360 --> 00:32:02.722
parents my dad said hi

00:32:02.762 --> 00:32:03.863
we're great that's such a

00:32:03.883 --> 00:32:06.425
good day they're now stuck

00:32:06.445 --> 00:32:09.667
with this scenario and i

00:32:09.987 --> 00:32:11.088
and i do hope that it

00:32:11.128 --> 00:32:14.451
doesn't last forever but i i i hope it

00:32:15.635 --> 00:32:17.476
it's it sits right because

00:32:18.117 --> 00:32:19.577
it's true it happened and i

00:32:19.637 --> 00:32:20.958
want them to understand the

00:32:20.998 --> 00:32:22.079
reality of what really

00:32:22.139 --> 00:32:22.979
happened and why it

00:32:23.019 --> 00:32:24.160
shouldn't have happened and

00:32:24.681 --> 00:32:26.542
their mother going across a

00:32:26.662 --> 00:32:28.163
busy roundabout just to

00:32:28.243 --> 00:32:30.584
avoid their father being

00:32:30.604 --> 00:32:31.765
you know being able to say

00:32:31.885 --> 00:32:33.546
hi to them just touch them

00:32:33.766 --> 00:32:34.727
because for three weeks

00:32:34.847 --> 00:32:35.527
he's not gonna be able to

00:32:35.567 --> 00:32:37.248
do that he might be able to

00:32:37.268 --> 00:32:38.289
get to see say hi to them

00:32:38.583 --> 00:32:41.006
goes across this busy, you know,

00:32:41.567 --> 00:32:42.727
rotary intersection

00:32:42.767 --> 00:32:45.509
thingy-majiggy to dart into the school,

00:32:46.430 --> 00:32:47.451
plays the scenario of

00:32:47.511 --> 00:32:51.634
crying mom afraid and acting erratic.

00:32:52.595 --> 00:32:53.996
So I approach the principal and I,

00:32:55.167 --> 00:32:55.607
I don't know.

00:32:55.667 --> 00:32:56.908
I'm just here to say hi to my kids.

00:32:57.048 --> 00:32:58.669
I don't understand why this is happening.

00:32:59.350 --> 00:33:01.511
And he admits that it is

00:33:01.571 --> 00:33:02.852
getting a little awkward

00:33:03.392 --> 00:33:04.753
and all these other things.

00:33:04.773 --> 00:33:05.614
And I tell him, I know.

00:33:06.014 --> 00:33:06.674
I understand.

00:33:06.694 --> 00:33:07.635
And I hate that you're being

00:33:07.675 --> 00:33:08.484
put in this position.

00:33:08.611 --> 00:33:09.572
But you have to understand

00:33:09.612 --> 00:33:13.534
that I'm just trying to see my kids.

00:33:13.931 --> 00:33:15.712
And I get that this is becoming a thing.

00:33:16.304 --> 00:33:18.705
Where I really just wasn't

00:33:18.845 --> 00:33:21.487
understanding was why I was

00:33:21.507 --> 00:33:23.988
kind of being the one reprimanded, right?

00:33:24.068 --> 00:33:25.210
All I did is show up.

00:33:25.290 --> 00:33:27.711
I'm not crying, not putting on a scene,

00:33:27.971 --> 00:33:28.952
holding a child,

00:33:29.452 --> 00:33:31.053
acting like he's about to be kidnapped.

00:33:31.393 --> 00:33:34.534
I'm not doing anything other

00:33:34.574 --> 00:33:35.915
than what I've done for the past,

00:33:36.295 --> 00:33:36.575
you know,

00:33:36.916 --> 00:33:38.636
few years of my kids attending

00:33:38.656 --> 00:33:40.045
this school, showing up.

00:33:42.129 --> 00:33:44.011
So I informed the principal

00:33:44.451 --> 00:33:45.972
of two things I am recording,

00:33:46.052 --> 00:33:47.193
and this is because it's

00:33:47.233 --> 00:33:48.995
for my best interest in

00:33:49.015 --> 00:33:50.376
what's happening in this situation.

00:33:51.517 --> 00:33:53.335
And I am going to say hi to my kids.

00:33:53.375 --> 00:33:54.176
He gives me the, okay.

00:33:54.196 --> 00:33:57.439
I walk in, I go say hi to my oldest,

00:33:57.479 --> 00:33:58.440
because at this point he's

00:33:58.620 --> 00:33:59.300
out in the yard.

00:33:59.340 --> 00:33:59.961
He comes over.

00:34:00.021 --> 00:34:00.601
I hug him.

00:34:01.162 --> 00:34:01.963
We talk about what he's

00:34:02.003 --> 00:34:03.444
getting ready to do and stuff for the,

00:34:04.184 --> 00:34:07.167
the weight, uh, the April break and.

00:34:07.737 --> 00:34:08.398
I tell him I love him.

00:34:08.458 --> 00:34:08.879
I hug him.

00:34:09.019 --> 00:34:10.300
I ask him if he's good.

00:34:10.894 --> 00:34:12.195
And his mother comes at this

00:34:12.235 --> 00:34:14.058
point back into the picture,

00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:15.940
still holding my middle child.

00:34:16.084 --> 00:34:18.972
I'm starting to walk away to leave.

00:34:20.033 --> 00:34:22.036
And my oldest starts walking with me.

00:34:22.803 --> 00:34:24.443
And his mother, I believe,

00:34:24.504 --> 00:34:26.224
signals over to him to come over.

00:34:27.024 --> 00:34:29.945
And I stopped because I

00:34:30.085 --> 00:34:32.146
didn't want interaction, right?

00:34:32.226 --> 00:34:33.906
I don't want conversation.

00:34:33.926 --> 00:34:36.427
I'm just trying to say hi, say bye,

00:34:36.487 --> 00:34:36.847
and go.

00:34:37.453 --> 00:34:38.953
So I told my oldest, I'm like, oh, man,

00:34:38.973 --> 00:34:39.413
you're good.

00:34:39.553 --> 00:34:40.253
You can stay here.

00:34:40.354 --> 00:34:41.774
Just go back to play.

00:34:41.794 --> 00:34:43.594
You're about to get in line to go inside.

00:34:43.714 --> 00:34:44.575
He tells me OK.

00:34:44.895 --> 00:34:45.315
He hugs me.

00:34:46.478 --> 00:34:48.599
goes i start walking away

00:34:48.959 --> 00:34:50.659
and i have to pass their

00:34:50.699 --> 00:34:51.540
mom right because she's

00:34:51.580 --> 00:34:52.700
standing by a teacher

00:34:53.500 --> 00:34:55.441
playing this i'm afraid

00:34:55.461 --> 00:34:57.134
victim as i'm walking

00:34:57.194 --> 00:34:59.115
by my middle child's again

00:34:59.195 --> 00:35:01.856
reaching out and saying i

00:35:01.916 --> 00:35:03.696
want you to hug me dad so i

00:35:04.236 --> 00:35:06.177
i pause i turn

00:35:07.794 --> 00:35:10.135
And I take two steps and say,

00:35:10.755 --> 00:35:12.136
I'm fine with hugging you

00:35:12.756 --> 00:35:14.437
as long as your mom's okay with it.

00:35:14.869 --> 00:35:17.150
In which she then puts this

00:35:17.410 --> 00:35:21.112
whole victim card of I'm afraid of you.

00:35:21.652 --> 00:35:22.813
You're not supposed to even,

00:35:23.633 --> 00:35:24.854
whatever she ends up saying.

00:35:25.874 --> 00:35:28.289
I say, okay, I leave.

00:35:28.664 --> 00:35:31.065
I then get a phone call the next morning.

00:35:31.895 --> 00:35:34.037
the police station asking

00:35:34.057 --> 00:35:35.398
what's going on the

00:35:35.458 --> 00:35:37.570
principal had called so in

00:35:37.610 --> 00:35:38.511
the end they give me this

00:35:38.671 --> 00:35:40.113
huge rundown i end up

00:35:40.153 --> 00:35:41.974
knowing this police officer

00:35:41.994 --> 00:35:43.235
as well he ends up having

00:35:44.456 --> 00:35:45.377
kids that end up going to

00:35:45.397 --> 00:35:47.338
school with my kids and so

00:35:47.458 --> 00:35:48.519
i explained to him exactly

00:35:48.539 --> 00:35:50.721
what's going on again very

00:35:50.761 --> 00:35:53.423
empathetic kind of tries to

00:35:53.463 --> 00:35:56.566
give me some you know what

00:35:57.359 --> 00:35:57.940
may help,

00:35:57.960 --> 00:35:59.881
what may not help kind of guidelines.

00:36:00.641 --> 00:36:01.502
And I explained to him,

00:36:02.042 --> 00:36:04.304
I have this kind of under control.

00:36:05.365 --> 00:36:06.505
Trying to make it happen so

00:36:06.525 --> 00:36:08.387
that way I don't have to see her.

00:36:08.447 --> 00:36:09.687
This is my whole point is I

00:36:09.747 --> 00:36:10.748
don't need to see her.

00:36:10.928 --> 00:36:12.169
I just want to see my children.

00:36:12.789 --> 00:36:13.310
That is it.

00:36:14.310 --> 00:36:15.051
We end up getting off the

00:36:15.071 --> 00:36:17.633
phone and then they go on

00:36:17.673 --> 00:36:19.798
to April vacation.

00:36:20.058 --> 00:36:22.259
I then get to talk to them

00:36:22.379 --> 00:36:24.701
during the April vacation and

00:36:25.074 --> 00:36:26.402
finding out a few

00:36:26.422 --> 00:36:27.624
different things and we're

00:36:27.644 --> 00:36:28.885
still trying to figure some

00:36:28.925 --> 00:36:29.765
of those things out.

00:36:29.806 --> 00:36:30.846
So I don't wanna really say

00:36:30.866 --> 00:36:32.128
it here because I don't know

00:36:32.923 --> 00:36:35.004
which ones are absolute fact just yet,

00:36:35.104 --> 00:36:36.325
but more things are coming

00:36:36.405 --> 00:36:37.906
on down the pipeline.

00:36:38.511 --> 00:36:40.012
So I want to go back and

00:36:40.393 --> 00:36:42.554
clarify some of my wording

00:36:43.434 --> 00:36:44.895
from my previous episode.

00:36:45.090 --> 00:36:47.344
When I say that I believe

00:36:47.384 --> 00:36:49.866
it's all court systems as

00:36:49.906 --> 00:36:52.307
far as the family division

00:36:52.387 --> 00:36:55.569
goes of not wanting what's best.

00:36:56.064 --> 00:36:57.825
for the children that are in this.

00:36:58.101 --> 00:37:00.983
I do heavily, and this one I will stand on,

00:37:01.903 --> 00:37:03.444
heavily believe that there

00:37:03.484 --> 00:37:05.225
are individuals that have

00:37:05.305 --> 00:37:08.166
zero interest in particular

00:37:08.206 --> 00:37:10.007
people's cases where it's

00:37:10.047 --> 00:37:11.528
in the best interest for the children.

00:37:12.048 --> 00:37:13.008
That I will stand on.

00:37:13.629 --> 00:37:15.530
But as the court as a whole,

00:37:15.790 --> 00:37:17.453
I can't stand here and say

00:37:17.493 --> 00:37:19.554
that wholeheartedly yet,

00:37:20.110 --> 00:37:21.093
mostly because

00:37:21.355 --> 00:37:22.476
I haven't given the chance

00:37:22.516 --> 00:37:24.398
for this wrong to be right.

00:37:24.690 --> 00:37:28.231
So maybe I will stand on that,

00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:33.161
seeing how this future hearing goes.

00:37:33.681 --> 00:37:35.742
But right now, I can't.

00:37:36.002 --> 00:37:37.503
I cannot sit in here and say

00:37:37.563 --> 00:37:40.691
that the court system in whole,

00:37:40.811 --> 00:37:42.212
as far as Vermont goes,

00:37:42.547 --> 00:37:43.527
is not for the best

00:37:43.588 --> 00:37:44.428
interest of the children.

00:37:44.895 --> 00:37:45.455
So yeah,

00:37:45.595 --> 00:37:47.397
I think that was something I

00:37:47.437 --> 00:37:49.499
needed to put up there because I don't,

00:37:50.019 --> 00:37:50.279
again,

00:37:50.319 --> 00:37:51.920
going back to the beginning of this video,

00:37:52.020 --> 00:37:52.393
want

00:37:52.393 --> 00:37:52.631
man.

00:37:53.052 --> 00:37:54.973
I don't want anybody to be

00:37:55.033 --> 00:37:57.085
able to say something that

00:37:57.265 --> 00:37:58.246
it really wasn't.

00:37:58.445 --> 00:37:59.216
police

00:37:59.471 --> 00:38:00.962
are not all bad.

00:38:00.982 --> 00:38:04.331
The family court system is not all bad.

00:38:04.889 --> 00:38:07.089
And even though I did hit

00:38:07.150 --> 00:38:08.630
certain points that stated

00:38:09.310 --> 00:38:11.631
that I am kind of for the

00:38:11.691 --> 00:38:13.571
system so long as it's needed,

00:38:14.045 --> 00:38:15.425
I do firmly believe that

00:38:15.945 --> 00:38:16.946
within the system

00:38:18.063 --> 00:38:20.345
things can be changed so

00:38:20.405 --> 00:38:22.266
that way families aren't

00:38:22.627 --> 00:38:24.328
being just ripped apart

00:38:24.482 --> 00:38:26.118
parents and children

00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.335
all have the fair

00:38:28.493 --> 00:38:30.975
trial of being a family

00:38:31.135 --> 00:38:32.216
even if they are separate

00:38:32.512 --> 00:38:35.187
so yeah with that said

00:38:35.352 --> 00:38:36.313
Things are getting wild.

00:38:37.413 --> 00:38:39.455
We're still holding on, holding strong.

00:38:40.065 --> 00:38:41.406
If you have the opportunity

00:38:41.426 --> 00:38:42.767
to check out that GoFundMe

00:38:42.807 --> 00:38:45.389
and you have the ability to donate that,

00:38:46.129 --> 00:38:47.450
I appreciate y'all so much.

00:38:47.490 --> 00:38:50.752
That really helps both me, my children,

00:38:51.092 --> 00:38:51.713
my family.

00:38:51.952 --> 00:38:53.293
We put a lot into this so far.

00:38:54.124 --> 00:38:57.025
A lot has gone into this, both monetarily,

00:38:57.281 --> 00:39:00.802
just time-wise, the team behind this all,

00:39:01.343 --> 00:39:03.643
they're amazing people and I cannot,

00:39:04.003 --> 00:39:04.744
I could not,

00:39:05.424 --> 00:39:06.924
I would not be able to do all

00:39:06.964 --> 00:39:09.045
of this without them and

00:39:09.085 --> 00:39:11.246
without my community backing, not just me,

00:39:11.286 --> 00:39:11.946
but my kids.

00:39:12.806 --> 00:39:14.447
Some of these people have

00:39:14.687 --> 00:39:15.847
their own kids that go to

00:39:15.887 --> 00:39:18.588
school with my kids and they would be,

00:39:18.608 --> 00:39:19.348
they already know some of

00:39:19.368 --> 00:39:20.769
their kids would be devastated

00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:22.760
If their friend gets taken

00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.318
away without a real reason, you know,

00:39:25.698 --> 00:39:27.698
other than someone making

00:39:27.758 --> 00:39:29.420
that choice for them and it

00:39:29.460 --> 00:39:31.024
didn't need to be that way.

00:39:31.084 --> 00:39:32.084
So my name is Dell.

00:39:33.085 --> 00:39:34.286
I am Dell for dads.

00:39:34.686 --> 00:39:36.388
And I appreciate you guys

00:39:36.408 --> 00:39:38.429
for taking the time to listen, watch,

00:39:38.769 --> 00:39:39.690
depending on however you

00:39:39.730 --> 00:39:42.132
want to do this and sharing

00:39:42.752 --> 00:39:43.393
and following.

00:39:44.093 --> 00:39:44.874
We're not done.

00:39:45.034 --> 00:39:46.175
We're not going to be done.

00:39:47.054 --> 00:39:48.555
This is just the tip of the iceberg.

00:39:48.671 --> 00:39:51.451
if you know anybody that is struggling,

00:39:51.780 --> 00:39:52.720
please reach out to me.

00:39:53.092 --> 00:39:55.192
My email should be in the description.

00:39:56.073 --> 00:39:58.114
If you need to get a hold of

00:39:58.134 --> 00:40:00.014
me on Facebook, send me a message.

00:40:00.855 --> 00:40:01.515
Send me a message.

00:40:02.135 --> 00:40:03.636
My name is Aaron Dell Robinson.

00:40:03.816 --> 00:40:04.696
People call me Dell,

00:40:05.437 --> 00:40:06.877
but you're more than welcome to reach out,

00:40:06.977 --> 00:40:07.338
please.

00:40:07.678 --> 00:40:08.958
I will try to help as much

00:40:08.998 --> 00:40:09.959
as I possibly can,

00:40:10.419 --> 00:40:11.159
or at least point you in

00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:11.999
the right direction of

00:40:12.020 --> 00:40:12.960
someone that can help you.

00:40:13.304 --> 00:40:14.285
You're not alone in this,

00:40:15.106 --> 00:40:17.129
and we are making our way

00:40:17.169 --> 00:40:18.010
to make this right.

00:40:19.151 --> 00:40:20.793
I cannot thank you enough.

00:40:21.734 --> 00:40:23.676
I hope you all have a greatest night,

00:40:24.317 --> 00:40:24.658
morning,

00:40:25.118 --> 00:40:26.260
whatever time you're watching this.

00:40:27.741 --> 00:40:28.042
Be well.
