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And good evening, everyone. This is HamTalk Live,

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episode number two. Don Wilbanks, AE5DW, recorded

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live on Thursday, February 25th, 2016. I'm your

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host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. And thanks for tuning

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in to this episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight on

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the show, my friend Don Wilbanks, AE5DW, will

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join us. Don will be talking about some of his

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work in media, especially ham radio media, and

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during the last part of the show we will, as

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always, be taking your calls live. So sit back,

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relax, and enjoy tonight's episode of HamTalk

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Live. Last week on the big show, Dr. Scott Wright

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KZeroMD was here. And I want to thank him for

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being here and all those who listened. If you

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missed that show or any future show, you can

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listen to the replay on HamTalkLive .com. And

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that's also on Spreaker, TuneIn, iTunes, SoundCloud,

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or YouTube. And I think I could have gone another

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three or four hours with Scott. I had a lot more

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that I'd hoped to talk about, so we'll be asking

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him back in the future for sure. One of the nice

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things about doing your own show is that you

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get to choose what happens for the most part

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so one thing you'll notice is a little variety

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and there are those warm fuzzy remember when

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shows like last week and Shows where we will

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dig deeper into one particular topic some will

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be informative some will be light -hearted some

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will be serious and Then what are two will be

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like tonight? Tonight we're having fun the best

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guy I could think of to have some fun with on

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the show is our next guest You know him from

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amateur radio newsline the news line young ham

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of the year award Some stuff like gigaparts TV

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and a little show they call ham nation He's formerly

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one half of the famed commercial radio duo Blair

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and the fat man and his name's not Blair ladies

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gentlemen boys and girls children of all ages

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Please welcome to the show the Harry's man himself

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from pick at you in Mississippi. Mr. Don well

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banks Thank you, thank you, thank you, please

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please throw money hold your applause and let

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loose of the cash Had to get the, uh, basketball

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announcer voice going there. Mr. Dawn. All right.

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Hey, great to have you on here. Dawn been looking

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forward to this. Uh, I, I, I just in coming up

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with the show for tonight, I, I just couldn't

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wait to do it because we got some kind of crazy

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stuff to do, but we're going to start off with

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the serious. You started off well with, with

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Scott, right? I got to say, I mean, for, uh,

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for a premiere show to have, to have, have Dr.

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Scott right on there. And then went right in

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the dumper with me. So you're batting 500 Neil.

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Well, you know, we'll kind of, we'll kind of

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split the difference there and we'll figure it

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out. But yeah, Scott, uh, Scott and I go way

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back and then, and it was just, it was just great

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to, to be able to do that. So a good guy. Yeah.

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Yes. Well, Let's, let's talk about some of your

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stuff because you have been one busy man, especially

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this week, man. You, you did a ham club talk

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and you did, uh, about got ran over by water

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spouts and ham nation and, and the 2000th edition

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of newsline coming out tomorrow. Yeah. Was, uh,

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was supposed to be on, um, uh, the QSO show with

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Ted Randall on WTWW. Tuesday night, but we sat

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for an hour trying to get. Freaking Skype to

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work. So we'll put that off until next Tuesday.

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So yeah, it's been, I saw, I saw you were supposed

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to do that. I meant to mention that too. Technical

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difficulties. Yeah, they happen. They happen.

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I'm sure I'll get my share of them eventually.

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So, um, You, you've been a busy guy. You've been,

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you've been doing all this, the ham nation stuff

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and the newsline stuff. And even from Huntsville,

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you did some gig aparts TV. And so tell us just

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a little bit about, um, about some of the stuff

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you've been doing and, and what you're doing

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at work. Well, this at work, um, what I do at

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work is I am, I'm, I'm what you call production

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director, which basically means I, I write radio

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commercials. I. produce radio commercials, both

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myself and I record clients or other voice talent

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who will come in. I coordinate with sales in

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helping to create new commercials and new advertising

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ideas. And so essentially what I do is I move

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mountains, I perform the impossible, and I herd

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cats. That is essentially what I do. I got off

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the air a long time ago. You mentioned the old

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Blair and the Fat Man days. That was doing an

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oldies morning show in New Orleans and we were

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fairly popular. But I got into broadcasting in

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1978 right out of high school when I was 10.

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I told my parents I was going to be the voice

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on the radio and I've been lucky enough to have

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done that pretty much continuously since then.

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So I've transitioned off the air. a number of

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years ago, and I'm now sitting in the production

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chair. And it's an entirely different creative

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muscle, Neil, as you know, being a broadcaster

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yourself or former broadcaster. And I'm sure

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it's lengthened my career considerably, but I

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really enjoy the production director aspect and

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doing commercials. And it's been very busy at

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work as well because my assistant is on vacation,

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so I'm handling all eight radio stations by myself.

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Yeah. This must be, uh, this must be some week.

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It is all that stuff going on now. Um, I understand

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that, uh, that, uh, I heart media, the company

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you work for. Clear Channel, um, recently bought

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WWV in Boulder, Colorado. Yeah, they're constantly,

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they're constantly horse train radio stations.

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Yeah. They're making, they're making some changes.

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And before the show, you were telling me about

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some, um, repeater IDs that you did for a friend.

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Yeah. And Knoxville. Yeah. We used to do some,

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some of those kind of off the wall. repeater

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IDs and some people liked them and some people

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didn't, but that was one of the things that I

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found out about repeaters. And it's kind of like

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with this show too, that if you do it and you

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can, you can do it yourself and then you can

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do whatever you want to do. And then if everybody

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follows along, you know. Right. So, so give us

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a couple of those. Those those repeater IDs that

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oh on on on on yeah, Kevin Duplantis w4 kev he

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has Well, his sense of humor is sicker than mine

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Which is is saying something one of them was

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because Kevin is bald so And you know in my in

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my best Gary Owens Don Pardo voice with more

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coverage than the repeater trustees hair This

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is the w4 kev repeater You're listening to the

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W four K E V repeater, but why my wife asked

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me what's on TV. I told her dust. And that's

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how the fight started. You're listening to the

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W four K. I mean, you know, that kind of stuff.

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Well, we've got this clip here that, that is,

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is what we think would happen or what happened

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with WWV. If clear channel took over so here

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commercial is the commercialization of time exactly

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exactly WWV all the time all the time Same time

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same station every time WWV One two three four

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every second counts at WWV For a good time call

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555 for WWV WWV for the time of your life We'll

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be back with the time on WWV in just a minute,

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but first here's another minute All right. Well,

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okay. No, they didn't really take over WWV, but

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this recording, which by the way, thanks to Doug

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Grant, Katie one TJ for letting me use that is

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actually former WWV voice. John Doyle. That's

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the real deal. Yep. That's been around forever.

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Yeah. I just, I just ran into it the other day.

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Oh, that was great. Yeah. All the time. All the

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time. Oh yeah. We'll talk to us about news line.

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Now you just literally minutes ago, uh, finished

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up, uh, episode number 2000 of amateur radio

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news line. And I remember running news line off

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of satellite dishes and recording it on VHS tape

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and then dubbing it over to cassette and then

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playing it on the repeater and Wow times have

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changed but Newsline is still there so tell us

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about Newsline and talk about how Bill Pasternak

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at OEA6ITF got you into that and what Bill has

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meant and where things are headed now with Karen

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and everything happening with Newsline. Yeah

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newsline marches on you know bill passed away.

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It's it's almost been a year now In a couple

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of months. It will be a year. It was May or June.

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I believe when he passed away, so and you know

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just like when Someone who's really really close

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to you like if a parent dies or a favorite uncle

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or something that you're really really close

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to Doesn't matter how long it's been since they

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passed away It's like every day you think of

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something to ask them and you think I got a call

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Whoever it is and of course you can't because

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The phone doesn't reach that far but um So there's

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always something I need to ask him about how

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he did things and how things should be done And

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what he thinks of this, but yeah newsline is

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pretty amazing. I said episode number 2 ,000

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And it actually went for 37 years uninterrupted

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never missed a week until Last year when or year

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before last I guess when when bill got sick like

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on a on a Wednesday night and Could not finish

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writing the script. He went into the hospital

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and so we did not have newsline that week and

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it was off for a couple of weeks and then he

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got to where he brought his laptop into the hospital

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with him and was able to write scripts and we

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went back into production and then he got ill

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again and And and then of course when he passed

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away And we took about a month off, I think,

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something like that, just to regroup. But we're

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back now. And Karen Eve Murray, KD2GUT in New

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York, has taken over the writing, because that's

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the hardest part. It's easy to sit here in front

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of a microphone and read words off of a script.

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It's the writing of the script. That's the whole

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heart and soul of it. I'm just a guy yakking

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into a yakker. Yeah, we're the guys that, you

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know, well, I can read out loud. Yeah. I've got

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this really deep voice thing going. Yeah. Yeah.

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And that's what we do. And it's, and it sounds

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really good in my headphones. I don't care if

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you like it, but man, I'm digging this. So, but,

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but so, and she jumped right in and it was, it

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was, um, it's very funny. She, she basically,

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we, we put up on the Facebook page, um, that

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we were looking for, for help. And she's one

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of the ones who. went to Skeeter Nash because

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I was I was taking night classes during the time

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and there was about for about two or three months

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that I wasn't even on Newsline and it was right

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around the time that Bill was sick unfortunately

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so Skeeter took over the N5ASH and I remember

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vividly it was a Sunday night my phone rang I'm

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sitting in here in the radio room I was just

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on 40 meters earlier in fact checking into something

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but I'm sitting in here in the phone rings and

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I see it's you know it's Topeka Kansas so I pick

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up the phone at Skeeter he goes hey I've got

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Bill on the phone I'm like Bill who he goes Pasternak

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really so the three of us are sitting there talking

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and Bill's voice was so frail and None of the

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usual joking it was that we were all we were

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talking about newsline and I could tell Just

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from the the way the conversation was going that

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that we were talking about the continuation we

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were talking about life after bill and Skeeter

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said well, we've got someone who I think is is

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going to be able to to write the copy for us

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every week. Her name is Karen and she's a New

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Ham and she lives in New York and he's rattling

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off her resume essentially. She wrote for New

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York Newsday, she did some broadcasting as well,

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I do believe, and all I can hear Bill saying

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in the background is hire her, hire her, hire

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her, hire her, hire her, and so we did and it

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is, it's amazing the life that that I so I so

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look forward to anchoring news line and and reading

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her stories because her sense of humor, which

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is considerable just Leaps right off the page

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or the screen depending on whether or not you've

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killed a tree and printed it but it's just I

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love I love reading her words she has been an

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absolute godsend and and So it's it's kind of

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the three of us. I guess me Skeeter and Karen

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kind of spearheading everything tend to get a

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lot of the attention and I think that's only

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because my face is on Ham nation every week and

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I'm probably the most visible part of the team

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for amateur radio news line But believe me it

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ain't me And it's not just skater and it's not

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just Karen. It's everybody and it's it's you

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now as well Neil as we've we've We've we've conned

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you into I mean we've we brought you into the

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fold And by the way, we're going to double your

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pay next year from nothing to twice nothing.

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Got that looking forward. Got that looking forward

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to you. But it's an entire team and it could

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not exist without the teamwork. And that was

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something that Bill, that was his talent. He

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didn't have the best voice. He had a particular

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New York accent and a bit of a speech impediment.

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uh... and could be very verbose so you didn't

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hear a whole lot of bill reading but his his

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talent was in putting people together and i said

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we just put the wraps are getting a uh... report

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number two thousand will actually be posted tomorrow

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sometime I've got about a 13 -minute segment

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at the end of it talking about the beginnings

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of Newsline and some of the history of Newsline

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and how it began and how it was put together

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back in Los Angeles in the early days. And we've

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got some audio of Roy Neal from 1999 anchoring

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a newscast. Of course, Roy Neal, the voice of

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the space program on NBC back for Apollo 11 and

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Apollo 13 and Skylab and all that other stuff.

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And the man who basically But ham radio in space

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spearheaded the the heiress program for for ham

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radio in space and it's just it's an amazing

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history of how it began from very very humble

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beginnings is something that has lasted 40 years

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and. Is something that I don't think I'm I don't

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think I'm being facetious when I say that it's

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it's something that that a lot of other ham radio

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newscasts or. Bulletin programs are kind of are

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kind of based on or judged against it's um It's

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it's it's an amazing thing and and to have been

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involved with this From almost day one of me

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me becoming a ham back in 1995 Is just an absolute

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honor and I miss bill every day Absolutely, and

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I've noticed it seems like I don't know if you've

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noticed this but in just my short time Working

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and kind of taking a look at the script Before

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before it airs We refer to this we refer to this

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as your indentured servitude. Yes. Yes, exactly

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It seems like Karen's writing style has some

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hints of bill in it Yeah, and you know, she never

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met bill and has never never spoken with bill

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and and she's she's really She's not happy about

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that. She would have loved to have gotten to

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know him ... and he her because their kindred

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spirits are both ... from from from New York.

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But yeah she has she has gone back and I mean

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she went ... back and looked at a and listen

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to a bunch of previous ... news lines and yeah

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she I she kind of channels ... Mr. passion act

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but she has her own style she's very verbose

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... and and she just has these little twists

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that she ... does and and I did I just love it

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she's. She's amazing. I hope we have her forever.

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Yeah. She, she does a, an excellent job and,

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uh, I look forward to, uh, doing my part, uh,

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my little part in the, in the scheme of things

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and, uh, getting things, uh, back up on some

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of the repeaters around here too, was, was digging

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around earlier. I'm not going to play it, but

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found, uh, uh, an ID clip from 1998. What it

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would do was like, Every week you know was recording

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the thing to To put it on the repeater and so

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whenever our repeater came up for the ID cycle

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and and you know You know you're on the years

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-wide area repeater network listening to news

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line. You know I'd save that and so we would

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always play those during the ID break So that

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way, you know, it was, you know, well, you know,

00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:09.940
you're listening to news line on this repeater

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and now it's time, you know, to identify your

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station. And so we'd cover up the tones with,

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you know, one of you guys saying. This is news

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line heard on bulletin stations around the world,

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including the W nine EAR repeaters serving Indiana,

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Illinois and Kentucky. And, and we always look

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forward to that, that, you know, we would, we

00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.589
would hear our. repeater on there. And, and so

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that was, uh, that was a lot of fun. And we're

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going to try to try to get that back. Um, and

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speaking of the talent on echo link, speaking

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of the tones, the mystery of why those tones

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are there will be revealed. You'll have to listen

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to the very end of newsline report. Number 2000,

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um, Robert Sudock, WB six FDF who, who first

00:19:56.470 --> 00:19:59.559
met bill. was one of what bill was one of bob's

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first contacts is a new hand back in nineteen

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seventy three and westlake which was the predecessor

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of of news what newsline morphed from started

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nineteen seventy six so robert was there from

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literally day zero from before day one and and

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he was very instrumental in and helping me was

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one of the voice early voices of news line and

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and uh... help put it all together but he explains

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why there are tones and it's not what you think

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Pretty funny sounds like a good funny. We reveal

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some secrets. Yeah, we reveal some secrets some

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Easter eggs Yes, we'll have to we'll have to

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tune in and find those so Newsline number two

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thousand posting tomorrow. So be sure to check

00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:45.539
that out And it's time right now to pay a few

00:20:45.539 --> 00:20:50.089
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00:23:36.150 --> 00:23:38.630
big thing that you're involved with is is Ham

00:23:38.630 --> 00:23:42.490
Nation and tell us a little bit about how Ham

00:23:42.490 --> 00:23:45.950
Nation got started how you got into that and

00:23:45.950 --> 00:23:50.029
all the fun you have on there. Well I found out

00:23:50.029 --> 00:23:52.430
about Ham Nation a friend of mine actually told

00:23:52.430 --> 00:23:54.509
me he's a ham in Oklahoma who I went to high

00:23:54.509 --> 00:23:56.329
school with and he said yeah there's this new

00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:59.099
Internet TV show called ham nation that's that's

00:23:59.099 --> 00:24:01.420
going to ... start up he's a he's a big Leo Laporte

00:24:01.420 --> 00:24:02.960
twit fanatic and so I ... have to check that

00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:05.519
out so I started watching it around ... episode

00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:08.220
two or three I got hooked on it because I mean

00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:11.400
... Gordon West is a friend and Bob Hile is a

00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:15.279
friend and and ... you know it's a it's it was

00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.779
cool to watch my friends on ... Internet TV and

00:24:18.779 --> 00:24:23.059
it is really good show and then. Bill Pasternak

00:24:23.059 --> 00:24:26.930
told me said. This this would have been around.

00:24:26.930 --> 00:24:30.809
Oh, I don't know Week number 10 or 12, maybe

00:24:30.809 --> 00:24:36.250
he said um you know Bob asked me to ask us to

00:24:36.250 --> 00:24:39.609
to do something a news thing a new segment for

00:24:39.609 --> 00:24:43.630
ham nation and and so we're gonna do that and

00:24:43.630 --> 00:24:46.430
That's gonna be coming up like next week, and

00:24:46.430 --> 00:24:49.329
I'm like oh, that's cool, and so I watched it

00:24:49.329 --> 00:24:54.680
and and There was no new segment And so the watch

00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:56.579
the following week and there was no news ...

00:24:56.579 --> 00:24:58.880
segment. And I watched the following week and

00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:01.000
there was no news ... segment so I talked to

00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:02.160
Bill I said I thought we were going ... to be

00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.019
on ham nation he said well yeah we are but Robert

00:25:05.019 --> 00:25:09.700
... Sudock WV6 FDF he's. He's all set up to do

00:25:09.700 --> 00:25:12.559
the video thing and but he's he's ... fallen

00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:15.700
ill and I said well. I mean I don't know how

00:25:15.700 --> 00:25:17.119
long he's going to be sick but ... if you want

00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:21.160
me to try it I mean you know all. I've got Skype.

00:25:21.420 --> 00:25:23.480
I'll jump on there and do it. I don't know how

00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:25.740
good it'll be but I'll you know, okay great.

00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:29.339
So that's how the ham nation news segment started.

00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:34.779
I was the first one to do it filling in for Sudok

00:25:34.779 --> 00:25:38.039
and there was no video production. It was me

00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.880
reading a script just my talking head on the

00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:45.619
camera and you know, it's even even professionals

00:25:45.619 --> 00:25:47.940
have a hard time getting through a five -minute

00:25:47.940 --> 00:25:52.450
news script. All at once Especially with you

00:25:52.450 --> 00:25:54.349
know I mean I've never done TV before and they

00:25:54.349 --> 00:25:56.109
added pressure of being on camera and everything

00:25:56.109 --> 00:25:58.670
else But so it worked out okay, and then and

00:25:58.670 --> 00:26:02.170
then Bob came back He got better and so Bob took

00:26:02.170 --> 00:26:05.710
it over, and I was just amazed at his video production

00:26:05.710 --> 00:26:07.910
It was really really good, and I loved watching

00:26:07.910 --> 00:26:10.490
it plus He's got this this deep resonant voice,

00:26:10.529 --> 00:26:13.630
and he's a been a broadcaster since the 60s out

00:26:13.630 --> 00:26:18.109
in California So well he he fell ill again Bob

00:26:19.750 --> 00:26:23.329
Bob has had cancer, but his main thing is his

00:26:23.329 --> 00:26:25.269
back. And in fact, right now he's still in a

00:26:25.269 --> 00:26:28.809
rehab facility for his back. But anyway, he had

00:26:28.809 --> 00:26:31.769
to step down. So I stepped back into it and I've

00:26:31.769 --> 00:26:34.069
been doing it ever since. And it's been several

00:26:34.069 --> 00:26:36.410
years now. I mean, you know, however long pretty

00:26:36.410 --> 00:26:39.950
much Ham Nation's been on. So that's how that's

00:26:39.950 --> 00:26:43.130
how I got started with Ham Nation and doing the

00:26:43.130 --> 00:26:46.809
the video news segment. And like I told like

00:26:46.809 --> 00:26:52.269
I told Sudok, Which you'll hear in the In the

00:26:52.269 --> 00:26:54.589
in the newsline thing. I'm I'm just keeping his

00:26:54.589 --> 00:26:57.269
chair warm. I mean, I'm you know, he's he's the

00:26:57.269 --> 00:27:01.250
guy he's he's the man But so that's that's that's

00:27:01.250 --> 00:27:03.130
how that happens. So that's that's how newsline

00:27:03.130 --> 00:27:06.349
got to be on on ham nation So and then they gave

00:27:06.349 --> 00:27:10.410
you the pressure of being the spokesperson Well,

00:27:10.410 --> 00:27:13.349
I kind of you know, I kind of adopted that because

00:27:13.349 --> 00:27:19.539
it's what I do and so I asked Bob I said I mean

00:27:19.539 --> 00:27:22.140
if you guys are comfortable reading commercials

00:27:22.140 --> 00:27:24.740
... hell I do that for a living I mean I'm perfectly

00:27:24.740 --> 00:27:27.819
and ... he's like yeah go ahead so that's kind

00:27:27.819 --> 00:27:30.839
of how I kind of I ... kind of I kind of jumped

00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:32.980
into that not because I ... necessarily wanted

00:27:32.980 --> 00:27:34.640
to just thought that you know I mean ... it's

00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.119
what I do it's probably the most logical person

00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:42.119
... there to do it so absolutely and all the

00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:47.980
ad lib and. Crazy yeah, it adds a lot to the

00:27:47.980 --> 00:27:50.759
show and so thank you really really I get I get

00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:54.039
I get a lot of emails from about ham nation and

00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.420
most of them are literally Hey, I tried the Harry's

00:27:57.420 --> 00:27:59.140
razor out. I got another one today. As a matter

00:27:59.140 --> 00:28:04.319
of fact guy even sent me a picture So that's

00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.019
awesome, so yeah, it's you know, it's pretty

00:28:07.019 --> 00:28:11.519
cool and And yeah, the Harry stuff is good. So

00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.480
There's a There's an unpaid plug for Harry's

00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:17.059
yeah well well we've got another one here coming

00:28:17.059 --> 00:28:19.700
up in a minute you don't know about but yeah

00:28:19.700 --> 00:28:24.660
yeah. So what's what's probably your favorite

00:28:24.660 --> 00:28:30.440
thing to do on on ham nation. I you know I really

00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.220
enjoy I enjoy the news I really do I enjoy the

00:28:33.220 --> 00:28:39.579
and I enjoy. I enjoy when Tamitha scov. Is part

00:28:39.579 --> 00:28:42.319
of of my news segment I kind of discovered her.

00:28:43.390 --> 00:28:46.210
There was a story about big sunspots and I had

00:28:46.210 --> 00:28:47.589
been ... actually paying a little bit of attention

00:28:47.589 --> 00:28:50.269
to her. And I saw one of her videos and I'm like

00:28:50.269 --> 00:28:52.890
my God this is ... great so I I I emailed her

00:28:52.890 --> 00:28:55.150
and I said hey I'd like to I'd ... like to use

00:28:55.150 --> 00:28:59.250
some of your video in this. An audio in news

00:28:59.250 --> 00:29:02.170
line and in this. In this in this ham nation

00:29:02.170 --> 00:29:03.950
video thing and I ... explained to her you know

00:29:03.950 --> 00:29:05.769
what it was and she ... email me right back so

00:29:05.769 --> 00:29:07.710
yes please I know about ham ... radio because

00:29:07.710 --> 00:29:10.000
the guy that does my website is a ham. He lives

00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.039
in Norman, Oklahoma like why I'm from Oklahoma.

00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.960
So really so anyway, so that's yes, please Anything

00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:16.880
you need just let me know and feel free to use

00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.480
anything and so I said well great what I made

00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.180
may start doing is is using these videos or at

00:29:22.180 --> 00:29:24.380
least part of them in the news segment every

00:29:24.380 --> 00:29:27.059
week and it became wildly popular and then the

00:29:27.059 --> 00:29:30.039
next thing, you know, she's invited by Tim Duffy

00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.440
and DX engineering in the as me group to attend

00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:39.250
Dayton to present her her To present a talk on

00:29:39.250 --> 00:29:44.049
solar weather at the Dayton antenna forum last

00:29:44.049 --> 00:29:47.529
year and If you've not seen that on YouTube you

00:29:47.529 --> 00:29:49.670
definitely need to go and look for it because

00:29:49.670 --> 00:29:54.009
it's absolutely amazing. She is She is one of

00:29:54.009 --> 00:29:57.750
the smartest people I know and just just as sweet

00:29:57.750 --> 00:30:04.119
as as Just as sweet as she can be and brilliant

00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.059
and has has a lot of fun with this and Her plans

00:30:08.059 --> 00:30:10.880
are to become a ham, but she has a she has a

00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.319
young child and a and a very very heavy workload

00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:18.140
So it's it's all coming, but that's that's probably

00:30:18.140 --> 00:30:21.319
my the coolest thing is is just doing the new

00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.519
segment and being able to Introduce Tammoth a

00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.200
skove to the ham radio community because they

00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.970
have Just they have fallen in love with her.

00:30:30.130 --> 00:30:32.630
Yeah. She came by the instructors forum at Dayton

00:30:32.630 --> 00:30:35.589
too. And I was able to meet her out in the lobby

00:30:35.589 --> 00:30:38.589
for a few minutes. And she was in New Orleans.

00:30:38.589 --> 00:30:41.049
She was in New Orleans last, last month. Actually

00:30:41.049 --> 00:30:44.809
she came down for a meteorological symposium.

00:30:44.950 --> 00:30:46.890
They invited her to come down and talk about

00:30:46.890 --> 00:30:50.470
solar weather. So I got to have lunch with her,

00:30:50.549 --> 00:30:52.670
her husband and her and her little eight year

00:30:52.670 --> 00:30:57.250
old daughter. just awesome. As it turned out,

00:30:57.390 --> 00:30:59.029
the New Orleans Convention Center is like a mile

00:30:59.029 --> 00:31:02.869
from my work, so we kind of walked and met in

00:31:02.869 --> 00:31:05.069
the middle at a really nice little restaurant

00:31:05.069 --> 00:31:07.849
there in the Central Business District and just

00:31:07.849 --> 00:31:09.849
had the best visit. Yeah, she's a sweetheart.

00:31:10.329 --> 00:31:14.009
Yeah, I talked to her about talking to some of

00:31:14.009 --> 00:31:17.509
the kids at school about some of the solar weather

00:31:17.509 --> 00:31:20.349
and they're excited about it, so hopefully we'll

00:31:20.349 --> 00:31:23.650
make that happen at some point. But my favorite

00:31:23.650 --> 00:31:28.309
thing to do in ham radio, period, has nothing

00:31:28.309 --> 00:31:33.650
to do with operating. It's as a volunteer examiner.

00:31:33.950 --> 00:31:37.849
I love, love, love being part of test sessions.

00:31:38.009 --> 00:31:41.269
I love being able to sign someone's CSCE. I think

00:31:41.269 --> 00:31:44.049
that is just, to me that's like one of the coolest

00:31:44.049 --> 00:31:47.009
things that I can do because everyone probably

00:31:47.009 --> 00:31:51.420
still has. their CSCE somewhere from when, you

00:31:51.420 --> 00:31:53.019
know, when they got their first ticket or whatever.

00:31:53.019 --> 00:31:55.240
And you'd look back on that and see these signatures

00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:58.619
and, and, you know, to be part of someone's,

00:31:58.619 --> 00:32:01.700
uh, ham radio history, either in the very beginning

00:32:01.700 --> 00:32:03.779
or when they upgraded, they finally get that

00:32:03.779 --> 00:32:06.400
extra and have your signature on that piece of

00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.420
paper signifying, um, that milestone of that

00:32:09.420 --> 00:32:11.500
achievement to me is just a huge honor. I love

00:32:11.500 --> 00:32:15.000
being a VE. Oh, absolutely. I've done a lot of

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:20.019
that too. And it's, it's great. So, um, we have

00:32:20.019 --> 00:32:25.519
this other thing planned here. So, um, I think

00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.180
we're going to do this and this is something

00:32:28.180 --> 00:32:31.539
I've been looking forward to all week. So right

00:32:31.539 --> 00:32:33.720
now, ladies and gentlemen, for the first time

00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.859
in ham radio media history, at least that I know

00:32:36.859 --> 00:32:39.980
of, we're going to play a game show. You are

00:32:39.980 --> 00:32:43.259
so star for entertainment. Since Don is so much

00:32:43.259 --> 00:32:45.339
fun when he doesn't have to be serious and he's

00:32:45.339 --> 00:32:47.869
probably the only guest. That I'll ever have

00:32:47.869 --> 00:32:50.230
that's crazy enough to do anything this silly.

00:32:50.450 --> 00:32:53.910
It's time to play the am talk live version of

00:32:53.910 --> 00:32:57.990
would you rather. Oh Lord. All right. Let me

00:32:57.990 --> 00:33:00.930
strap in. I don't think I'm ready. Strap in,

00:33:00.930 --> 00:33:04.869
strap in and here we go. Okay. So, so here's

00:33:04.869 --> 00:33:09.549
the, the first one. And by the way, uh, if you

00:33:09.549 --> 00:33:11.789
play along at home, you can do this on Twitter

00:33:11.789 --> 00:33:15.970
or my, my My assistant Nick is standing by on

00:33:15.970 --> 00:33:18.809
Twitter to post this on Twitter so you can vote

00:33:18.809 --> 00:33:21.869
and talk live and you can you can vote on some

00:33:21.869 --> 00:33:25.490
of these. So would you rather get an RF burn

00:33:25.490 --> 00:33:31.990
or an electrical shock? I have had both. And

00:33:31.990 --> 00:33:35.269
the RF burn lasts longer, so I would rather have

00:33:35.269 --> 00:33:38.920
the jolt than the burn. Yeah, that's. I ran this

00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:40.960
by some of the kids and they said the same ...

00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.859
thing so yeah would you rather be locked up in

00:33:43.859 --> 00:33:46.660
a room ... for an entire day with Bob Heil or

00:33:46.660 --> 00:33:53.480
Gordon West. Wow see now that's. As much as I

00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:55.700
love Gordon I think it would probably ... probably

00:33:55.700 --> 00:34:00.680
be Bob because. Some of some of the coolest moments

00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.119
or or periods of ... time I've spent one of them

00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:07.980
was in in Huntsville ... Alabama last year. Went

00:34:07.980 --> 00:34:10.300
out to dinner with Bob. It was me Bob and Joe

00:34:10.300 --> 00:34:14.179
Eisenberg k0neb and when you get Bob by himself

00:34:14.179 --> 00:34:16.539
I mean you can see yeah, you see Bob at ham fest

00:34:16.539 --> 00:34:18.820
and it's cool and everything But you're in the

00:34:18.820 --> 00:34:22.659
middle of a human pileup when you can get Bob

00:34:22.659 --> 00:34:30.360
just by himself School is in session all the

00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:33.920
stories from his rock and roll days and his and

00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:38.610
talking about You know clips His mentor, um,

00:34:39.150 --> 00:34:43.650
and just everything, just, oh my God. Now taking

00:34:43.650 --> 00:34:46.630
nothing, nothing away from Gordon because, um,

00:34:46.809 --> 00:34:49.570
back in, uh, was it 99, 2000, something like

00:34:49.570 --> 00:34:51.949
that. One of, I think it may have been 2000,

00:34:52.289 --> 00:34:56.030
my second trip to Dayton. Um, I'm talking to

00:34:56.030 --> 00:34:57.510
Gordon and he's like, well, I'm going to be in

00:34:57.510 --> 00:35:00.349
New Orleans, like in a couple of months. Um,

00:35:00.369 --> 00:35:03.289
if you want, I'll, um, I'll do one of my, one

00:35:03.289 --> 00:35:05.369
of my, uh, my stage shows. If you want to put

00:35:05.369 --> 00:35:07.829
that together and find a venue. I'll do it for

00:35:07.829 --> 00:35:09.170
free since I'm going to be there for business

00:35:09.170 --> 00:35:13.050
and I said sure so I put together the the Gordon

00:35:13.050 --> 00:35:16.469
West appearance in New Orleans and so I got to

00:35:16.469 --> 00:35:19.010
spend some good quality time with Gordon to actually

00:35:19.010 --> 00:35:21.670
drove around in my pickup truck with a cassette

00:35:21.670 --> 00:35:24.369
recorder and I interviewed him for Newsline just

00:35:24.369 --> 00:35:27.030
driving around. in the truck. Gordon came to

00:35:27.030 --> 00:35:29.469
my house and met Don and Tyler. Tyler was not

00:35:29.469 --> 00:35:32.849
quite a year old. And then we took Gordon, myself

00:35:32.849 --> 00:35:35.570
and two or three, four people from the Ham radio

00:35:35.570 --> 00:35:39.289
club, we took Gordon out on a swamp tour where

00:35:39.289 --> 00:35:42.750
Gordon fed Marshmallows to alligators. So I've

00:35:42.750 --> 00:35:44.630
had I've had some cool one -on -one time with

00:35:44.630 --> 00:35:47.050
both of those guys But I got to tell you it's

00:35:47.050 --> 00:35:49.889
so special to just sit alone with Hile and just

00:35:49.889 --> 00:35:53.230
listen Especially for an audio guy and you know

00:35:53.230 --> 00:35:55.630
a rock and roll guy like myself. It's just it's

00:35:55.630 --> 00:35:58.929
it's golden All right, we're running out of time.

00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:00.929
So we're gonna have to go rapid fire here. So

00:36:00.929 --> 00:36:02.949
I know I'm long Okay, here's the next one hit

00:36:02.949 --> 00:36:06.110
by a live turkey dropped from a helicopter or

00:36:06.110 --> 00:36:09.780
your city attacked by a monster lizard As God

00:36:09.780 --> 00:36:17.039
is my witness. Exactly WK RP OK drop by a turkey

00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.440
or my city attack you know I could. I would probably

00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.699
be mesmerized by the side of this turkey falling

00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:25.960
on me that I wouldn't be able to to to avoid

00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.239
it but but having grown up in Oklahoma and spent

00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.579
lots of time down here I know how to run away

00:36:31.579 --> 00:36:34.400
from both tornadoes and hurricanes so I think

00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.050
I'll take the lizard. All right, go without internet

00:36:37.050 --> 00:36:39.969
for a week or radio waves for a week now radio

00:36:39.969 --> 00:36:46.030
waves includes Wi -Fi Well Wi -Fi internet would

00:36:46.030 --> 00:36:49.590
be the same thing so well, yeah, oh man do I

00:36:49.590 --> 00:36:54.630
have to I Don't know I'd probably just have to

00:36:54.630 --> 00:36:58.969
sleep Okay, get cut by a Harry's razor or take

00:36:58.969 --> 00:37:03.269
the wrong person's pill pack. Oh I've never been

00:37:03.269 --> 00:37:07.389
cut by Harry's razor So probably take the wrong

00:37:07.389 --> 00:37:10.929
person's pill pack because that would Well, you

00:37:10.929 --> 00:37:12.130
know, I mean you don't want to you don't want

00:37:12.130 --> 00:37:15.010
to mix It's just like being pulled over by the

00:37:15.010 --> 00:37:17.869
by the policeman and and he says sir Have you

00:37:17.869 --> 00:37:19.550
been drinking and your friend over in the shotgun

00:37:19.550 --> 00:37:22.750
seat says are you insane? Do you think this man

00:37:22.750 --> 00:37:25.570
is dumb enough to mix alcohol and drugs? You

00:37:25.570 --> 00:37:29.469
know take a sledgehammer to a TS 2000 or an IC

00:37:29.469 --> 00:37:37.000
7100 The 2000 would be a bigger target and I

00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.239
had a 2000 get hit by lightning. So I've kind

00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:41.699
of done that already. So I'll say take the sledgehammer

00:37:41.699 --> 00:37:45.199
to the 2000 because I never did like that radio.

00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:49.360
Oh no. Okay. Tell your wife that you, how much

00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.119
you really paid for your radio gear or climb

00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.000
your tower in a rainstorm to replace, replace

00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:00.610
the feed line. Climb the tower. Oh, wow. Work

00:38:00.610 --> 00:38:03.489
the sewage pumper truck at the Hamvention or

00:38:03.489 --> 00:38:08.570
the complaint desk. The complaint desk. No one

00:38:08.570 --> 00:38:12.230
wants to be a Rubkey Ranger. Program all the

00:38:12.230 --> 00:38:14.829
channels in your handheld manually or take the

00:38:14.829 --> 00:38:18.269
extra class test over. As I'm looking at my bofang,

00:38:18.309 --> 00:38:20.230
I believe I'd rather take the extra test over.

00:38:20.469 --> 00:38:23.550
Yeah, I think so. Spend an entire evening on

00:38:23.550 --> 00:38:30.809
14313 or 3898. Oh, God. Um, does the radio have

00:38:30.809 --> 00:38:39.809
to be on? Yes. Um, how much can I drink? And

00:38:39.809 --> 00:38:42.929
what, what time of the day it is because I want

00:38:42.929 --> 00:38:44.909
to pick the one with the least least propagation.

00:38:45.530 --> 00:38:47.670
There you go. There you go. Well, there you have

00:38:47.670 --> 00:38:52.789
it folks. It's the ham talk live version. Would

00:38:52.789 --> 00:38:55.670
you rather? Would you rather? And thank you,

00:38:55.730 --> 00:38:58.429
but I'd rather not. Dodd Wilbanks. All contestants

00:38:58.429 --> 00:39:00.389
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00:39:00.389 --> 00:39:03.110
a new car? Do not win a home version of the game

00:39:03.110 --> 00:39:05.530
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00:39:05.630 --> 00:39:08.610
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00:39:08.610 --> 00:39:10.949
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00:39:10.949 --> 00:39:13.710
we're still on the air after we just did that.

00:39:13.750 --> 00:39:16.369
All right. Got it. Got it. Got to go. Coming

00:39:16.369 --> 00:39:19.400
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00:41:00.869 --> 00:41:05.110
here on HamTalkLive .com. All right, well, we

00:41:05.110 --> 00:41:08.909
want to try to get a call in here. So call us

00:41:08.909 --> 00:41:13.809
on Skype at HamTalk Live or by telephone at 812

00:41:13.809 --> 00:41:17.250
-NET -HAM -1. If you have a question for Don,

00:41:17.449 --> 00:41:20.909
we will try to get that in. And we're running

00:41:20.909 --> 00:41:25.800
short on time as usual this evening. So. We get

00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:29.280
45 minutes on on Spreaker without breaking the

00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:33.519
bank. So We're gonna have to do this quickly.

00:41:33.940 --> 00:41:37.039
So If you want to call in now's your chance,

00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:41.239
we're gonna have to do this pretty quick and

00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:44.400
then we'll have Nick tell us the results of our

00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:50.000
poll here real quick, but Yeah, the I don't know

00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.139
the the the the pill pack thing. I don't know

00:41:53.139 --> 00:41:57.659
That was scary No, it's pretty cool No, but if

00:41:57.659 --> 00:42:00.039
you get the wrong person spill well, yeah. Yeah.

00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:03.400
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the idea is great Yeah,

00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.039
the idea is great, but great for travel too.

00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.269
Oh, yeah Yeah, you know what one thing we haven't

00:42:09.269 --> 00:42:10.829
talked about yet is ... Youngham of the year

00:42:10.829 --> 00:42:13.269
and we do we do that every year and ... we're

00:42:13.269 --> 00:42:15.349
looking forward to doing it again and we should

00:42:15.349 --> 00:42:18.389
be ... opening up the nominating period probably

00:42:18.389 --> 00:42:21.849
in the next a ... few weeks or so for Youngham

00:42:21.849 --> 00:42:23.769
of the year so we ... definitely get get that

00:42:23.769 --> 00:42:27.550
information in there. Okay very good and we will

00:42:27.550 --> 00:42:30.530
talk about that before that ... happens and Nick

00:42:30.530 --> 00:42:33.789
says that electrical shock is running ahead.

00:42:34.269 --> 00:42:37.110
And it's pretty even split on internet versus

00:42:37.110 --> 00:42:41.449
radio. And the extra and the handheld programming

00:42:41.449 --> 00:42:46.150
is pretty split evenly too. So I'll leave those

00:42:46.150 --> 00:42:49.389
up for a few days. RF burns hurt, man. I'd much

00:42:49.389 --> 00:42:51.070
rather take the jolt than the RF burn. Those

00:42:51.070 --> 00:42:55.809
things hurt for a long time. They do. Well, Don,

00:42:55.869 --> 00:42:57.869
I want to thank you for coming on. And we've

00:42:57.869 --> 00:43:01.230
had a blast here tonight. And as usual, ran out

00:43:01.230 --> 00:43:06.679
of time. We hope we'll get you conned into coming

00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.179
back here at some point. Anytime. This is fun.

00:43:09.539 --> 00:43:11.000
Yeah, I'm enjoying this. And we'll get back and

00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:12.940
talk about Young Ham of the Year. We've got tons

00:43:12.940 --> 00:43:15.179
to talk about with that, so we'll ... Oh yeah.

00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:21.059
Always something new. Tie in another show and

00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:24.719
take you away from production for a little while

00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.219
on Thursday night, your Newsline night. And get

00:43:29.219 --> 00:43:31.460
you back here on the show. So thanks again for

00:43:31.460 --> 00:43:33.340
doing any time. Thank you Neil. I appreciate

00:43:33.340 --> 00:43:35.900
the invite All right. Well, thanks to Don well

00:43:35.900 --> 00:43:38.280
banks a you five DW and all the callers listeners

00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.079
out there in cyberspace and We invite you all

00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.420
back next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern time

00:43:43.420 --> 00:43:46.940
when my guest will be Gary Pierce KN4 aq the

00:43:46.940 --> 00:43:51.300
host of ham radio now And for a list of all of

00:43:51.300 --> 00:43:53.840
our upcoming guests visit ham talk live comm

00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.440
so for now with Don will banks This is Neil rap

00:43:57.420 --> 00:44:00.300
WB9VPG saying seven three seven five and may

00:44:00.300 --> 00:44:03.199
the good DX be yours
