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It's Hem Radio! Good evening, everyone. This

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is HamTalk Live episode number three. Gary Pierce,

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KN4AQ, recorded live on Thursday, March 3rd,

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2016. And I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks

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for tuning into this episode of HamTalk Live.

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Tonight on the show, Gary Pierce, KN4AQ, will

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join us. Gary will talk about his wildly successful

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video podcast, Ham Radio, now. during the last

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part of the show we will as always be taking

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your calls live. Last week on The Big Show Don

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Wilbanks AE5DW was our guest and Don and I really

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had a blast and we will do it again soon to talk

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about the Young Ham of the Year award once that

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nominating period begins so we'll have that coming

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up soon and if you missed that show or any future

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show you can listen to the replay on HamTalkLive

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.com or you can pick that up on Spreaker, TuneIn,

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iTunes, SoundCloud, or YouTube. Well here we

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are at episode number three and I'm learning

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some things and relearning some things from my

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audio past. So I'm trying to make a few adjustments

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to the show and one of the adjustments we're

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going to make tonight is make sure we have time

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for live calls because that's kind of the main

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goal of the show, and last week we did not hit

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that at all. So be ready to call in. We're going

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to take calls a little earlier this evening.

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So in just a few minutes, be ready. You can Skype

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us at HamTalk Live, that's the username, HamTalk

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Live, or by telephone. The number is 812 -NET

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-HAM -1. That's 812 -638 -4261. And we're trying

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out a new call system tonight and hope so we

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can improve some in that area. So I'd like to

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thank Nick Bauer, KC9GZY for handling the Skype

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switchboard and the social media duties tonight

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during the show and in weeks to come. And I'll

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try not to call him snardly too often. So tonight,

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Gary Pierce is my guest from Ham Radio Now. Gary

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grew up in Chicago and is now in the Raleigh,

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North Carolina area. And four years ago, he started

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the show Ham Radio Now. So Gary, welcome to HamTalk

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Live. Neil, it is nine o 'clock on the East Coast.

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Normally at this time of night, I would be sitting

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on the couch with my wife next to me, a cat on

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my lap, probably another cat sitting on my arm,

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a mug of hot chocolate perched precariously on

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the arm of the sofa. We will be watching. Well

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these days probably scandal So this would better

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be worth it. So yeah better be worth it. And

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you know, it could be one of those Anything can

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happen Thursdays you were talking about but we

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won't go with the with the vegetables tonight

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We won't go there, but maybe we can get a bazinga

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or two in there. So Actually, I should admit

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this that one of the reasons for the time slot

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although it's not a major reason for the time

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slot but one of the reasons that it's at the

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time that it is is So that it doesn't interfere

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with Big Bang Theory. So That actually was was

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one thing but yeah, that's what I do I DVR it

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in fact, I haven't actually watched it I need

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to catch up on it, but But yeah, that's one of

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the many reasons I don't watch anything live

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and Yeah, I find that I that I do that more and

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more Is just you know, it's it's too easy to

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hit that little skip button and and and go through

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everything Hopefully we'll catch up back. Yep.

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You're coming back. I think we're good there.

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Okay. Okay. Well, like I said, we're trying out

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the new Skype thing. So we'll, we'll see how

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that goes. So anyway, tell us about ham radio

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now. Um, tell us how, how that started and what

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your goals are with the show. Well, I was hoping

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you would ask me that question. Um, But the actual

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start of ham radio now began in 1970 and this

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is what it sounded like Gary I think we better

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We better take a break here and I think we're

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going to switch or Skype over Sounds like we're

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having issues here. So so let me let me put you

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on hold here and we'll take our first break and

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Then we'll come back with more with Gary Pierce

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Well, like I said, we're trying out the new Skype

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thing. So we'll, we'll see how that goes. So

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anyway, tell us about ham radio now. Um, tell

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us how, how that started and what your goals

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are with the show. Well, I was hoping you would

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ask me that question. Um, but the actual start

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of ham radio now. Begin in 1970. And this is

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what it sounded like. And by all means, don't

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touch the dial. That could seriously cause you

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to catch what I might have. Peggy Lee. Thank

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you, Scott. Thank you, brother. Yeah, okay, so

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that was the beginning. 1970, WDOR, Sturgeon

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Bay, Wisconsin, when I was actually a real broadcaster

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because I drew a paycheck. So I wasn't totally

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a wannabe, but boy was I a wannabe. And I just,

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you know, I'd fallen in love with broadcast radio

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as well as ham radio. throughout my teens and

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really wanted to be on the air someplace. And

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once I got there, I realized I had a problem.

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I didn't have anything to say. So I worked on

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that for a while. Yeah, you got to fix that.

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Yeah, let me and did that one sound okay? Yeah,

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that sounded great. Okay, good. So advance the

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story to 1988. Most of my career has been in

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video editing. I wanted to be in radio but I

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couldn't really get work because you could tell

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how good I was. I did video editing for about

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12 years and then I had to try radio one more

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time. So here's the one more time. Good time

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to tell you that KFWJ is rated at number one.

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Arbitron has just completed the Mojave County

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Listener Survey. KFWJ rated number one in all

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of Mojave County. The most listened to of all

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AM and FM stations both sides of the Colorado

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River from Blythe to Lake Mead. How about that?

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Number one, thanks to you, our listeners. KFWJ,

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KBBC, Lake Havasu City, the American home for

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the London Bridge. So I got better. I'm not sure

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when my voice changed, but I was 38 years old

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then and clearly my voice changed sometime after

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that. You just brought back some real memories

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because I remember the I saw it on the radio

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campaign. Yeah. There are a lot of radio stations

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that use that to to sell advertising, which of

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course is the number one thing in radio. Yeah,

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in some radio. Yeah, and it was an AB promotion.

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So that was that was cool. So I got better without

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any practice in between somehow got better, but

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still, you know, radio. That job lasted three

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months. I got fired for talking too much about

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the wrong things and I went back to video editing

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for another dozen years or so So let me advance

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the story to this Television stuff here. You

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had said that ham radio now started four years

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ago, which which it did but its predecessor the

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first video thing that I did actually started

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11 years ago in 2004 Amateur radio video news

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and I I made some programs and sold DVDs, not

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very fast, not very prolifically, but I made

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a few. The reason I started that was in 1983,

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this space shuttle Columbia, I think it was Columbia

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83, right? Had disintegrated on reentry and left

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pieces of itself all over East Texas. Wanted

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to go there and shoot video really bad. I didn't

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have good equipment. I had high -ate Camera and

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stuff and I really wanted to go there and shoot

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video of it. I couldn't get away I was freelancing

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at the time and I had lots of work and I couldn't

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quite get away but I really wanted to do that

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and The reason why I really wanted to do that

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is our media sucks. We're terrible at it Bill

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Pasternak and I have commiserated a lot about

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how badly we do media It's it's really hard to

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get still pictures of hams doing important things

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especially in the emergency communications in

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the public safety arena We don't get really good

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pictures of hams doing that we get no video at

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all and Bill tried to start something called

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the ham radio video core and encourage hams to

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Acquire and then maybe edit video of us doing

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stuff Went nowhere. We're still doing none of

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that Katrina came and went almost nothing One

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guy went in there with a camera and shot some

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stuff, but that never became a program. It became

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a short blurb that the league did So we're terrible

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at it. So I really wanted to and I got started

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in 2004 Video equipment was starting to get Affordable

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enough now. I wouldn't call it cheap, but I I

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could buy a good camera for about forty five

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hundred dollars makes really good pictures and

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I did that and the first story I thought I might

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go do was The W3 AO field day operation. I had

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been noticing that those guys did something unusual.

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They had a 50 a 51 a field day operation and

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we worked them from the field day I was at And

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I was always thinking, that's that can't be right.

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Yeah, exactly. It's got to be a scam of some

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kind. So I noticed that they were they were lined

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up to do another 50. And I called the guys and

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said, can I come up here? And I'm starting the

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same radio television show. Can I come up there

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and then document? And they said, yeah, sure.

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Why not? So I did. And although I shot it in

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2004, I finally released the DVD in 2011. So

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you can tell how fast I am. Turning things around

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So but that was the beginning Yeah, take editing

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is slow. Well, I released several others in between

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I did a documentary on a ARDF direction finding

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because it was their national championships were

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just down the road from me Local and they wanted

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to close out so people could see it. So I shot

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that in I think in 2008 and released it only

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a few months later and a couple of other things.

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I did a documentary called Digital Voice for

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Amateur Radio and I shot that a lot of it in

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2008 and got it released within a few months.

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So a lot of work there and then I finally got

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around to doing that field day thing. I shot

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the 10th anniversary of the W3AO operation in

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2014 and I still haven't edited that. Haven't

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lost my old ways entirely, but I know what you

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mean We I've got a project at school that we

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shot all the video and did everything and then

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yeah, it's still sitting I totally get that So

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so podcasting the concept of podcasting in online

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stuff actually began about 2004 when I was taking

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a major step into the late 1990s and doing DVDs

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The people who understood what was going on,

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Leo Laporte, even George Thomas in amateur logic,

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not Ham Nation yet, but amateur logic. You started

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back then. So guys were getting this. I just

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wasn't. I was old school. And then I got invited

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to be a guest host on Ham Nation when they started

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down on Twitter in 2011. And I did a bunch of

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those shows. I knew he was going to be on the

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road. So he he was cat about for someone who

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had some experience. And he said someone pointed

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in my way, I guess. I haven't seen the DVDs.

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And so he asked me if I would do it. And I said,

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yeah, as long as you don't ask me to film because

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I'd never be able to find time for that. So I

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did half a dozen of those shows and he stopped

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calling. He just said, he didn't say anything.

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He just, he stopped calling. And about that point,

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I decided I really did like doing it and thought

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I could maybe do it regularly. So I started the

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Ham Radio Now thing and he gave me a guest shot.

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My first Ham Radio Now episodes came from the

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Orlando hamcation and went down there and shot

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a bunch of interviews and a tour of the place

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in 2011. And, um, and he gave me a good departing

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shot doing that. And then I just never heard

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from him again. So I figured he didn't need me.

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And he went on to Don Wilbanks and a whole bunch

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of other people. So, um, I've been doing then

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the ham radio now since then. And we're up at

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this, this, by the way, I never introduced the

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video part of the show. Um, your radio listeners

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don't realize we're also making the ham radio

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now probe. So let me introduce it here. Radio

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now episode 246. Look I'm on ham talk live. I

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mean listen. I'm on ham talk live Yeah, but we

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don't get the sound effects of the the the lower

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third flying in we don't Know we don't I do that

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in post but but yeah, but they'll get that on

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on video You guys will get it, but but but our

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listeners won't Get the fly you just get me so

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so That's it that's how we got started and then

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I just keep keep turning them out as fast as

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I can I've added Well, I was doing the Tapper

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digital communications conferences on DVD from

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2008 on and then just folded them into the ham

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radio video and One of the things that that you

00:18:07.630 --> 00:18:10.589
do to keep this going because like you said video

00:18:10.589 --> 00:18:15.660
is not cheap You know this show I you know put

00:18:15.660 --> 00:18:19.779
together pretty you know not a whole lot of cost

00:18:19.779 --> 00:18:27.900
But it's not cheap. So tell us about Arvin Yeah

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And I'm on my second generation of equipment

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because I bought all the video cameras and stuff

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in standard definition four by three ratio just

00:18:38.740 --> 00:18:41.599
as high definition stuff was starting to hit

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the market at at this level of production. So

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I hung in with standard definition for as long

00:18:48.420 --> 00:18:50.519
as I could, but I switched to high definition

00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:53.480
before I started Cam Radio Now. So everything

00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:56.900
on Cam Radio Now is hi -def. And once again,

00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:03.160
a brand new camera down to Orlando. Arvin, the

00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:06.539
name of Arvin comes from what people were calling

00:19:06.539 --> 00:19:09.599
the original program, it's amateur radio video

00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:14.559
news. ARVN, one of the world's most terrible

00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.380
names for a television program. And it also turns

00:19:17.380 --> 00:19:19.839
out that the initials ARVN stand for the Army

00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:23.019
of the Republic of Vietnam, which people reminded

00:19:23.019 --> 00:19:27.799
me of over and over and over again. I'm thinking,

00:19:27.980 --> 00:19:30.500
well, you know, they're gone and I'm still here.

00:19:30.940 --> 00:19:33.539
But I eventually changed to ham radio now. But

00:19:33.539 --> 00:19:37.920
I adapted the ARVN name as the name of the mascot,

00:19:38.099 --> 00:19:40.500
a little piggy bank. sitting back here over my

00:19:40.500 --> 00:19:44.920
shoulder. Folks on the video can see that. And

00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:49.700
he represents viewer financial contributions.

00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:54.359
And his name is Arvin, A -R -V -I -N. I've got

00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:58.859
a little Arvin reel -to -reel portable tape recorder

00:19:58.859 --> 00:20:01.359
that I got to work into the deal somehow, but

00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.660
I've never played with that. So from the very

00:20:04.660 --> 00:20:07.140
beginning, I didn't... want to line up advertisers.

00:20:07.339 --> 00:20:10.380
I wanted individual contributions from viewers

00:20:10.380 --> 00:20:13.180
and they've been surprisingly good. It hasn't

00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:18.839
made a living. I would really like for this to

00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:21.960
be a full -time deal and it's not even close,

00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:25.240
but it has averaged since Hammerdia now started

00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:29.180
about $7 ,000 to $8 ,000 a year, plus a few very

00:20:29.180 --> 00:20:32.140
successful Kickstarters for the Tapper stuff.

00:20:32.619 --> 00:20:34.700
Which brought in twelve thousand dollars one

00:20:34.700 --> 00:20:36.920
year and a little over eight thousand the next

00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:40.500
but last year The kickstarter didn't work goose

00:20:40.500 --> 00:20:43.259
egg, but people have been contributing individually

00:20:43.259 --> 00:20:46.099
to the program I also started a patreon when

00:20:46.099 --> 00:20:48.799
that stuff got started so people can contribute

00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:54.599
on a ongoing basis with the patreon so Probably

00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:56.980
most people doing podcasts would say you're making

00:20:57.210 --> 00:21:00.029
$10 ,000 a year off your podcast. You were doing

00:21:00.029 --> 00:21:03.950
awesome, boy. But like I say, and people always

00:21:03.950 --> 00:21:06.869
say, well, don't try to monetize your podcast.

00:21:07.210 --> 00:21:09.250
You're going down the wrong road. Do it for fun.

00:21:09.750 --> 00:21:12.210
But I kind of want this to be a deal. And it

00:21:12.210 --> 00:21:16.690
is expensive to do. Yeah. I'm lucky that my expenses

00:21:16.690 --> 00:21:19.630
are low. And so I just, you know, do a couple

00:21:19.630 --> 00:21:24.720
of very inexpensive ads. That pretty much takes

00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:27.559
care of it, you know, a few months down the road.

00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.680
Anyway, it will. Is it like a dollar a holler

00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.819
radio? Yeah. It's not quite a dollar a holler,

00:21:33.819 --> 00:21:37.900
but it's not too far off of that. So, um, you

00:21:37.900 --> 00:21:42.640
know, hopefully that'll go, but, um, what. You

00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:44.859
do them wrong. I do them wrong. You do your ads

00:21:44.859 --> 00:21:50.299
wrong. Oh, here in the podcast land, um, the

00:21:50.299 --> 00:21:53.960
ads are effective when the host. does them live.

00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:57.400
Live, yes. And you produce yours and almost no

00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:01.160
podcasters produce their ads. Yeah. You get that

00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:07.019
native advertising feel to them. Oh, Cindy, come

00:22:07.019 --> 00:22:09.960
over here. My lovely wife Cindy. She's come on.

00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.500
Come on, get over. I have no makeup. She's got

00:22:12.500 --> 00:22:15.500
no makeup on. Well, it's radio. It doesn't matter.

00:22:16.220 --> 00:22:19.279
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It's just radio. She's

00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:22.529
wandering through the studio. But she's not she's

00:22:22.529 --> 00:22:26.309
not She says she's not going to come in front

00:22:26.309 --> 00:22:28.690
of the camera. Well, I don't have a microphone

00:22:28.690 --> 00:22:32.490
for you over there. So holler Yes, holler. Hi

00:22:32.490 --> 00:22:34.650
everybody. Hello everybody. Okay, that's cindy

00:22:34.650 --> 00:22:36.890
katie. Where are you? I see in the people do

00:22:36.890 --> 00:22:40.630
see her but people do see her on on the show

00:22:40.630 --> 00:22:44.690
they I always get a lot of email that says how

00:22:44.690 --> 00:22:48.150
did an ugly old guy like you get a young beautiful

00:22:48.150 --> 00:22:52.109
wife like that and I've got pictures. That's

00:22:52.109 --> 00:23:00.190
the thing. It's blackmail Now I'm lucky now occasionally

00:23:00.190 --> 00:23:04.869
The mouse shows up on the show. Yeah, I'm surprised.

00:23:04.890 --> 00:23:08.650
I don't have a cat Bug is yes, Cindy's gonna

00:23:08.650 --> 00:23:12.650
go get me a cat. So yeah, we have a one of the

00:23:12.650 --> 00:23:17.119
other things that we do is Rest cat rescue or

00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:19.099
big into cat rescue, especially Cindy, but I

00:23:19.099 --> 00:23:23.819
help her out as much as I can and We have a feral

00:23:23.819 --> 00:23:25.720
colony with two cats in her right now because

00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:27.859
we've been very successful in the trap neuter

00:23:27.859 --> 00:23:32.519
return or trap neuter adopt Where you get feral

00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:35.720
cats and if they're young enough you You bring

00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:37.900
them in and domesticate them and get them adopted

00:23:37.900 --> 00:23:40.880
at a shelter. So we're pretty good at that We've

00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:43.220
got three of our own right now and then in the

00:23:43.220 --> 00:23:48.250
house. There's two more Cats that we are Fostering

00:23:48.250 --> 00:23:51.730
until they're ready for being adopted so five

00:23:51.730 --> 00:23:57.750
cats going on. I'm hoping to do a podcast On

00:23:57.750 --> 00:24:01.069
cat rescue because I've surveyed the market a

00:24:01.069 --> 00:24:02.589
lot more people out there into cats and there

00:24:02.589 --> 00:24:05.150
aren't a ham radio and no one's serving that

00:24:05.150 --> 00:24:09.829
mark So I've got the domain rescue cat dot TV

00:24:09.829 --> 00:24:15.880
Yeah, maybe maybe maybe some Jackson Galaxy Well,

00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:20.339
the other thing about it is ham radio media,

00:24:20.339 --> 00:24:22.559
ham radio online media tops out at about what

00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.839
we're doing here in twit. Cats, they get real

00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:30.680
big time TV, you know, on cable and Jackson Galaxy.

00:24:30.940 --> 00:24:34.619
So we won't hit that level. But it's I don't

00:24:34.619 --> 00:24:37.140
think anyone is talking to the to the folks that

00:24:37.140 --> 00:24:41.000
do this, this animal rescue, cat rescue. We'll

00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.299
focus on cats. The people will say why don't

00:24:43.299 --> 00:24:45.019
you do dogs, too? And it's just it's not because

00:24:45.019 --> 00:24:47.900
we don't like dogs just You know cats are our

00:24:47.900 --> 00:24:51.059
thing and we'll talk about dogs, but sure I want

00:24:51.059 --> 00:24:54.339
I want to get that ginned up and well Alec now

00:24:54.339 --> 00:24:56.500
that I've let the let the world know I guess

00:24:56.500 --> 00:25:00.420
I better get to it. There you go Well, Ali's

00:25:00.420 --> 00:25:02.940
been running around here, but since it's radio

00:25:02.940 --> 00:25:06.759
You don't hear Ali. So we won't get into that.

00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:12.069
Although Ali did try to get in Um, on ham nation,

00:25:12.369 --> 00:25:14.549
she jumped up on the desk right behind me and

00:25:14.549 --> 00:25:17.730
George says, there's a tail coming out of your

00:25:17.730 --> 00:25:25.710
head and like, um, Alley down. So she tried,

00:25:26.069 --> 00:25:31.470
but my favorite cat ham radio video was when

00:25:31.470 --> 00:25:36.079
I was like, probably either five or six years

00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.400
old and I'm copying code and The cat jumps up

00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.359
on top of the HF rig and starts batting around

00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:48.759
my pencil while I'm trying to copy CW Got an

00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:51.640
old home movie of that. Yep. They're good at

00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:55.319
that. Yeah, they are There's tons of tons of

00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:59.420
pictures on Facebook of cats sleeping on radios

00:25:59.420 --> 00:26:02.279
amplifiers Tube stuff particularly because oh,

00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:07.109
yeah, it's warm Oh, yeah Well speaking of get

00:26:07.109 --> 00:26:12.329
any live live calls here. Yeah We do need to

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do one more ad and and I do want to take since

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00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.660
left, so hopefully we can get a couple of calls

00:29:25.660 --> 00:29:28.099
in this evening since our technical difficulties

00:29:28.099 --> 00:29:33.819
took away a little time with us. While we're

00:29:33.819 --> 00:29:37.279
waiting, Well, and there's Allie in the background.

00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.920
I don't think microphone picked her up but I

00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:49.339
recently watched your All parody all the time

00:29:49.339 --> 00:29:54.440
episode and I I was I had it on YouTube you were

00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:56.480
talking about different ways, you know to catch

00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.359
the show and and I had it on YouTube but I had

00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.500
it playing through the car so I had the audio

00:30:02.500 --> 00:30:05.400
and the video but I Didn't watch the video. I

00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:10.000
was listening as I was driving and You had a

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.980
lot of clips there from the actual Subcommittee

00:30:14.980 --> 00:30:18.579
discussions and everything and really like how

00:30:18.579 --> 00:30:21.279
you how you took that and dug into everything

00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:26.720
and and You know kind of picked that apart that

00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:33.069
was that was very interesting and It'll be it'll

00:30:33.069 --> 00:30:37.170
be interesting to see where this goes It's going

00:30:37.170 --> 00:30:39.970
way better than I ever expected once we hit a

00:30:39.970 --> 00:30:43.349
Senate version of the bill I thought well, there's

00:30:43.349 --> 00:30:45.349
a chance Of course, I screwed it up because I

00:30:45.349 --> 00:30:47.970
thought it was only a one -year deal and if I

00:30:47.970 --> 00:30:49.910
to put you know at the end of last year I thought

00:30:49.910 --> 00:30:54.829
it was dead and had to be restarted, but I Really

00:30:54.829 --> 00:30:57.529
need to go back and watch the schoolhouse rock

00:30:57.849 --> 00:31:00.950
I'm just a bill on capital and see if they can

00:31:00.950 --> 00:31:02.990
explain that to me. The sessions are two years

00:31:02.990 --> 00:31:05.930
long. So the Parity Act has got another year

00:31:05.930 --> 00:31:08.609
to go and it's picking up more co -sponsors and

00:31:08.609 --> 00:31:10.970
made it out of the original committee in the

00:31:10.970 --> 00:31:12.869
House that was in. It already made it out of

00:31:12.869 --> 00:31:14.430
the first committee it was in in the Senate.

00:31:15.009 --> 00:31:18.289
The next step for that is the full Senate. And

00:31:18.289 --> 00:31:20.809
now it's going to be at the Energy and Commerce

00:31:20.809 --> 00:31:23.750
Committee. It made it out of the Telecommunications

00:31:23.750 --> 00:31:29.190
and I think Electric Toasters Committee. So as

00:31:29.190 --> 00:31:31.269
opposed to the non -electors toasters committee.

00:31:31.509 --> 00:31:35.670
Well, yeah fire So, uh, so, you know, we're still

00:31:35.670 --> 00:31:38.529
in very much the contact your congress people

00:31:38.529 --> 00:31:41.230
and let them know this exists and that you would

00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:44.470
like them to support it become co -sponsors or

00:31:44.470 --> 00:31:47.450
Whatever, especially if they're now in the energy

00:31:47.450 --> 00:31:49.769
and commerce committee. So that's the place to

00:31:49.769 --> 00:31:53.190
go. I thought it was cool that In congress, they

00:31:53.190 --> 00:31:56.690
were talking about us, you know every often Yeah,

00:31:56.690 --> 00:32:00.089
I was very encouraged by a lot of things that

00:32:00.089 --> 00:32:04.029
that they did say that they recognized Just what

00:32:04.029 --> 00:32:07.769
we do and and then it was nice to hear yeah,

00:32:07.769 --> 00:32:09.730
it was mostly boilerplate stuff, you know the

00:32:09.730 --> 00:32:13.549
usual pat on the back, but I Like that better

00:32:13.549 --> 00:32:19.430
than nothing. Yeah. Yeah absolutely Okay, give

00:32:19.430 --> 00:32:24.200
us a call at on Skype net ham talk live Or 812

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.339
Net Ham 1 if you have a question for Gary 812

00:32:28.339 --> 00:32:33.400
-638 -4261 we have a few minutes left and and

00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:38.960
the The amendments I remember you talking about

00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:41.480
those a little bit and yeah those amendments

00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:45.299
Scare me a little but we'll see where it goes

00:32:45.299 --> 00:32:48.200
That's going on right now somewhere in the background.

00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.680
I think I would like to talk to some of the guys

00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.740
at the league and see if they're In the middle

00:32:52.740 --> 00:32:56.299
of it, I hope that they are. What happened at

00:32:56.299 --> 00:33:00.240
the communications and technology subcommittee

00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:06.240
hearing was people were recognized that there

00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.420
is opposition. There's somewhat organized opposition

00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:13.380
from what we call the CAI, the Community Associations

00:33:13.380 --> 00:33:17.339
Institute. It's an association of homeowners

00:33:17.339 --> 00:33:22.000
associations. And they filed Comments with the

00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.980
committee so to the ARL and in their filing they

00:33:24.980 --> 00:33:29.400
had seven specific points That they would like

00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.079
to see changed some of them fairly innocuous

00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.539
some of them kind of deal -breakers, but that's

00:33:34.539 --> 00:33:38.619
their opening gambit Negotiating position and

00:33:38.619 --> 00:33:42.890
I go through all that in the program All parody

00:33:42.890 --> 00:33:47.289
all the time on ham radio now TV So if you missed

00:33:47.289 --> 00:33:49.250
that stop by there you had mentioned that you

00:33:49.250 --> 00:33:51.650
were Watching the YouTube while you were driving

00:33:51.650 --> 00:33:53.829
and I do have an audio version of the show. It's

00:33:53.829 --> 00:33:57.890
a little hard to get to I'm not I'm a bad podcaster.

00:33:58.630 --> 00:34:01.410
I Haven't taken advantage of all the tools you

00:34:01.410 --> 00:34:04.730
immediately got on iTunes and are discoverable

00:34:04.730 --> 00:34:07.410
on the podcast apps and all that stuff, but you're

00:34:07.410 --> 00:34:13.090
you're on my podcast public podcast app. And

00:34:13.090 --> 00:34:18.610
I haven't done that. Really, I should. I've just

00:34:18.610 --> 00:34:22.909
been scrolling my audio versions away on my internet

00:34:22.909 --> 00:34:26.449
service providers site on the Ham Radio Now website.

00:34:27.349 --> 00:34:30.030
And that's not a good idea. That's not where

00:34:30.030 --> 00:34:33.369
media should live. So I've got to move it. I've

00:34:33.369 --> 00:34:36.250
had a fellow offering to provide free hosting

00:34:36.250 --> 00:34:39.840
for my audio and video for over a year. And I

00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.360
haven't got around to doing that. I'm late. Well,

00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:46.360
one of the advantages to starting up the show

00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:51.420
is I took two months to get ready. So I had all

00:34:51.420 --> 00:34:53.760
the social media stuff set up. I had all the

00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.219
accounts set up. I had everything all set up.

00:34:57.219 --> 00:35:01.800
In those two months ahead of time. And so I didn't

00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:06.840
know what any of that was. Yeah. And the the

00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.730
spreaker thing just has all this stuff integrated

00:35:10.730 --> 00:35:14.449
and so it makes it really easy and honestly I

00:35:14.449 --> 00:35:20.269
found out about it listening to an AM talk radio

00:35:20.269 --> 00:35:27.010
ad over the holidays actually and decided here's

00:35:27.010 --> 00:35:29.409
my chance I've always wanted to do talk radio

00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:33.050
instead of just playing music and here's your

00:35:33.050 --> 00:35:36.929
weather watch forecast for today and you know

00:35:36.929 --> 00:35:39.550
traffic on the eights don't yes oh yes and and

00:35:39.550 --> 00:35:42.929
we're on your side um but anyway traffic and

00:35:42.929 --> 00:35:45.389
weather together yeah yeah exactly traffic and

00:35:45.389 --> 00:35:49.949
weather together on the eights and um you know

00:35:49.949 --> 00:35:53.230
i heard it and i'm like okay here's here's the

00:35:53.230 --> 00:35:56.090
chance to do it and it's it's really worked out

00:35:56.090 --> 00:35:59.289
pretty well um there's there's been a few hangouts

00:35:59.289 --> 00:36:03.130
but we're getting there There's some latent wannabe

00:36:03.130 --> 00:36:05.110
broadcaster in you too because I mean you've

00:36:05.110 --> 00:36:09.170
done professional broadcasting I did I did it

00:36:09.170 --> 00:36:12.070
was part -time but you know it beat flipping

00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:16.929
burgers It was a lot of you and you wanted Yeah,

00:36:17.170 --> 00:36:19.690
so we're we're fulfilling our childhood dreams

00:36:19.690 --> 00:36:23.789
here where no one can tell us what to do. Exactly

00:36:23.789 --> 00:36:26.929
Exactly, and one of the things and I know you

00:36:26.929 --> 00:36:30.110
do a lot with repeaters and I don't know if this

00:36:30.110 --> 00:36:34.170
has been your experience or not but the experience

00:36:34.170 --> 00:36:39.030
we had with our repeater system was that we did

00:36:39.030 --> 00:36:42.090
the IDs the way we wanted to do them, we linked

00:36:42.090 --> 00:36:44.550
to whatever we wanted to do and we did all that

00:36:44.550 --> 00:36:47.909
and then we asked for support if you liked it

00:36:47.909 --> 00:36:53.110
and it worked so much better than a club of 60

00:36:53.110 --> 00:36:57.650
people all trying to figure out how to run the

00:36:57.650 --> 00:37:00.889
repeater. My committee. Yeah, it's not too good.

00:37:01.110 --> 00:37:05.070
Yeah, it didn't work. So that's what I say about

00:37:05.070 --> 00:37:07.949
my show and the support. Yeah. That's what I

00:37:07.949 --> 00:37:10.230
say about my show and the support is you can

00:37:10.230 --> 00:37:13.070
make suggestions. I appreciate your support,

00:37:13.349 --> 00:37:15.829
really, but I'm going to do the show I want to

00:37:15.829 --> 00:37:19.429
do and come along for the ride. Absolutely. Well,

00:37:19.710 --> 00:37:22.690
thanks for coming along for the ride with us

00:37:22.690 --> 00:37:26.599
tonight. It's it's that time. Once again, my

00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:31.300
timer is telling me it's time to go So so I have

00:37:31.300 --> 00:37:33.980
thanks for coming along my pun. Yeah to make

00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:37.639
my pun Yeah, that's a wrap. Oh, you beat me to

00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.400
it. I was just getting ready to do it In fact,

00:37:39.539 --> 00:37:42.480
Nick said now you always did that in class. Why

00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:46.019
didn't you do that on the air? So So yeah a rap

00:37:46.019 --> 00:37:50.210
star. Yes. That's it. That's a wrap For this

00:37:50.210 --> 00:37:52.110
week's edition of HamTalk Live, I'd like to thank

00:37:52.110 --> 00:37:54.690
my guest Gary Pierce, KN4AQ, and all the callers

00:37:54.690 --> 00:37:57.230
and listeners out there in cyberspace. And I

00:37:57.230 --> 00:37:59.789
invite you back next Thursday night at 9 p .m.

00:38:00.190 --> 00:38:04.349
Eastern. My guest will be Tom Vinson, NY0V. And

00:38:04.349 --> 00:38:07.429
Tom recently took a trip to Myanmar or Burma,

00:38:07.510 --> 00:38:10.110
depending on your politics, to help some Boy

00:38:10.110 --> 00:38:12.329
Scouts earn their Radio Merit badge. And you'll

00:38:12.329 --> 00:38:14.809
hear about it right here on HamTalk Live. So

00:38:14.809 --> 00:38:19.130
for now... With Gary Pierce KN4AQ saying over

00:38:19.130 --> 00:38:22.550
and out. This is Neil Rapp WB9VPG saying seven

00:38:22.550 --> 00:38:26.449
three seven five and may the good DX be yours
