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This is ham talk live episode number 00:01:15.150 --> 00:01:18.349 seven. amateur radio on the International Space 00:01:18.349 --> 00:01:22.969 Station recorded live on Thursday, March 31 2016. 00:01:22.989 --> 00:01:26.269 I'm your host Neil rap WB nine VPG and thanks 00:01:26.269 --> 00:01:29.829 for tuning in to this episode of ham talk live 00:01:29.829 --> 00:01:32.709 tonight on the show Rosalie white K one STO will 00:01:32.709 --> 00:01:35.769 be here to talk about the amateur radio on the 00:01:35.769 --> 00:01:38.109 International Space Station program supported 00:01:38.109 --> 00:01:43.120 by a RRL AMSAT and NASA, and we'll take your 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:46.579 calls live in just a few minutes. Last week on 00:01:46.579 --> 00:01:48.799 The Big Show, the guys from the National Voice 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:52.439 of America Museum of Broadcasting and the Westchester 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:55.439 Amateur Radio Association were here. 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And 00:04:49.259 --> 00:04:51.160 in Bloomington, she worked with book writers 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:54.480 at Author Solutions and now manages her family's 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:57.319 farm, mostly maintenance and finances, but still 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.139 finds time to facilitate the ARIS program mostly 00:05:00.139 --> 00:05:03.550 from home. the Heiress International Secretary 00:05:03.550 --> 00:05:08.209 and ARRL's delegate to the program. She was the 00:05:08.209 --> 00:05:11.250 1995 winner of the Dayton Hamvention Amateur 00:05:11.250 --> 00:05:14.730 of the Year Award. She's worked on many ARRL 00:05:14.730 --> 00:05:18.470 projects including the ARRL license manuals and 00:05:18.470 --> 00:05:21.529 public service newsletters and she flew her own 00:05:21.529 --> 00:05:23.550 plane for many years and I had the opportunity 00:05:23.550 --> 00:05:26.790 to present Ham Radio with her to a convention 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:30.139 full of science teachers here in Indiana many 00:05:30.139 --> 00:05:33.399 years ago. So Rosalie, welcome to HamTalk Live. 00:05:34.620 --> 00:05:36.879 Well, thank you, Neil. It's great to be here. 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:40.839 So tell us a little bit about the whole beginning 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:45.600 of the ARIS program. How did this idea start 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:49.500 out and how did this get started? Well, people 00:05:49.500 --> 00:05:52.420 may be familiar with the, back in the space shuttle 00:05:52.420 --> 00:05:57.240 days, SAR -X. And that was the predecessor, of 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:01.660 course. And in the last few years of Sarex, of 00:06:01.660 --> 00:06:04.839 course, we knew that the International Space 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:10.100 Station was being built. And some of your listeners 00:06:10.100 --> 00:06:15.579 may recall Roy Neal, who was an NBC science desk 00:06:15.579 --> 00:06:20.920 reporter. And he was K6 Delta United Echo. And 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:25.939 he was on our team. And he said, we need to get 00:06:25.939 --> 00:06:30.540 with NASA to make sure that we're on the ISS. 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:36.720 And so he spoke with people he knew from his 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.560 science career, reporting science things such 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:44.839 as space launches, and stirred up interest. And 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:49.360 of course, NASA always loved SAR -X as what it 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.600 did for how little effort it had to put into 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:59.199 it. because it was all volunteer. And NASA came 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:04.360 to ARRL and AMSAT and said, we need one organization 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:08.120 that will coordinate every amateur radio activity 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:13.139 on the ISS. And so get that going. So as early 00:07:13.139 --> 00:07:18.199 as 1996, which is our 20 years, is coming up 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:24.459 this November. I contacted the IARU societies 00:07:24.459 --> 00:07:28.699 and asked if there would be representatives for 00:07:28.699 --> 00:07:32.899 an ISS team for amateur radio. And AMSAT Frank 00:07:32.899 --> 00:07:38.519 Bauer, KA3 HDO, Hotel Delta Oscar, did the same 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:43.920 thing for AMSAT's international societies. And 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:47.839 we had our first meeting and voila, Eris was 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:52.050 born. Well, that's great and I remember a lot 00:07:52.050 --> 00:07:56.310 of the old Sarex missions and Able to listen 00:07:56.310 --> 00:08:00.209 to the space shuttle fly over and it was always 00:08:00.209 --> 00:08:04.670 an interesting thing growing up and so glad you 00:08:04.670 --> 00:08:07.970 guys were able to to make all that work now, 00:08:07.970 --> 00:08:12.189 what's the process of? Getting a contact with 00:08:12.189 --> 00:08:17.290 Eris and and what's the wait time? Okay, well 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.879 there is a proposal process in the past we had 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:28.439 an application and you basically wrote down if 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:32.220 you were a Ham radio operator working with a 00:08:32.220 --> 00:08:36.259 teacher or if you were a teacher you wrote down 00:08:36.259 --> 00:08:38.600 what kinds of educational activities you wanted 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:43.700 to do and then your school may or may not have 00:08:43.700 --> 00:08:47.769 been picked if it was a lot of good educational 00:08:47.769 --> 00:08:50.389 activities that would definitely be picked. Now 00:08:50.389 --> 00:08:53.750 it's a proposal process and their windows open 00:08:53.750 --> 00:08:57.269 twice a year and they're open for approximately 00:08:57.269 --> 00:09:02.710 two months and the proposal is a very carefully 00:09:02.710 --> 00:09:08.889 spelled out listing of things that need to be 00:09:08.889 --> 00:09:13.419 written down and you submit the proposal. And 00:09:13.419 --> 00:09:17.139 it's kind of a two -step process where if your 00:09:17.139 --> 00:09:20.519 education proposal is good and if you have a 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.159 chance to get a lot of kids involved and you 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.639 have publicity that you can plan and you can 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.279 get student release forms for using photos and 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:38.299 you have a plan to get comments from teachers 00:09:38.299 --> 00:09:42.909 and students afterwards, then you pass the first 00:09:42.909 --> 00:09:45.870 step which is the first half of that proposal 00:09:45.870 --> 00:09:49.970 and then once you're selected you choose your 00:09:49.970 --> 00:09:53.230 equipment plan. If you're a school that does 00:09:53.230 --> 00:09:59.629 not know a ham radio group in your area and ARRL 00:09:59.629 --> 00:10:02.509 and AMSAT can't find someone because they do 00:10:02.509 --> 00:10:05.289 have to be experienced with satellite communications 00:10:05.289 --> 00:10:10.440 or be a very quick learner of how to do that 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:14.419 and get access to equipment, then it would be 00:10:14.419 --> 00:10:18.059 a telebridge contact which is very much like 00:10:18.059 --> 00:10:21.960 a phone patch where let's say one of our eras 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:27.740 telebridge stations in Australia has a good pass 00:10:27.740 --> 00:10:31.460 over Australia that can be relayed to a school 00:10:31.460 --> 00:10:35.120 that does not have an amateur radio setup. And 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.360 so you asked about the time frame. We have a 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:42.519 window that closes on April 15. It opened on 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:46.899 February 15, closes on April 15, and that's for 00:10:46.899 --> 00:10:49.879 contacts that will be scheduled January 1 through 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:56.440 June 30 of 2017. So basically you have a year 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:01.080 to get everything in place and it might not take 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.120 that long, but at least you don't have to run 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:06.860 around like a Tasmanian devil getting everything 00:11:06.860 --> 00:11:09.740 ready because you have time to get everything 00:11:09.740 --> 00:11:13.220 planned And there is a lot to get ready because 00:11:13.220 --> 00:11:16.220 you know, you don't get a second shot at this 00:11:16.220 --> 00:11:19.720 you're only going to get a few minutes and so 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:23.679 you have a Backup station that has to be in place 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.980 and some things that try to keep Murphy away. 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:31.220 That's right. That's right and like you say you 00:11:31.220 --> 00:11:37.740 get ten minute window and I saw a schedule about 00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:43.179 a month ago of the astronauts day and it is jam 00:11:43.179 --> 00:11:46.620 -packed and it's only going to get worse as the 00:11:46.620 --> 00:11:52.480 commercial crews are on the ISS because of course 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.500 with the commercial crew they have certain research 00:11:55.500 --> 00:11:59.480 that they are being paid to do so every little 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:04.320 box on this huge spreadsheet is filled and they 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:09.659 are worked hard. So, you know, they get 10 minutes 00:12:09.659 --> 00:12:14.399 to go take a break and go do this. We can't mess 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:17.820 it up. That's right. So we got to make it count. 00:12:18.340 --> 00:12:23.460 So so it is a fairly lengthy process, but it's 00:12:23.460 --> 00:12:30.029 been really rewarding and. the telebridge process 00:12:30.029 --> 00:12:34.029 is there too so you can squeeze those in from 00:12:34.029 --> 00:12:38.889 time to time if the station the earth station 00:12:38.889 --> 00:12:43.549 idea is not there so recently you just had a 00:12:43.549 --> 00:12:49.090 big celebration of the 1000th QSO tell us about 00:12:49.090 --> 00:12:54.409 QSO number 1000 It was pretty exciting for us 00:12:54.409 --> 00:12:58.409 to reach that goal in 16 years time because we 00:12:58.409 --> 00:13:04.990 were actually the first payload on board the 00:13:04.990 --> 00:13:10.950 ISS, the first commander set up the station with 00:13:10.950 --> 00:13:15.409 just within hours of opening the airlock and 00:13:15.409 --> 00:13:19.049 getting inside and getting comfortable. And so 00:13:19.049 --> 00:13:21.669 we were really the first official operational 00:13:21.669 --> 00:13:27.610 payload. And that was in 2000, December. And 00:13:27.610 --> 00:13:31.789 so we were very excited to hit the 1000th QSO. 00:13:31.889 --> 00:13:35.029 And of course, it's a worldwide team. And, you 00:13:35.029 --> 00:13:36.570 know, with Sarex, of course, it was just the 00:13:36.570 --> 00:13:38.649 U .S. and it was a little easier to coordinate. 00:13:39.149 --> 00:13:42.850 But now with an international team, it's, you 00:13:42.850 --> 00:13:46.610 know, different. And our 1000th contact was one 00:13:46.610 --> 00:13:49.539 that was not only exciting for us, but it was 00:13:49.539 --> 00:13:52.820 one that was so well done by the group that applied 00:13:52.820 --> 00:13:57.299 and their proposal was the North Dakota Space 00:13:57.299 --> 00:14:00.279 Grant Consortium, which is at University of North 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:06.000 Dakota. And those college students and their 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.919 friends and volunteers with other classes, not 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.879 just the science and the aerospace classes, but 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:16.330 throughout the college, visited five different 00:14:16.330 --> 00:14:20.470 elementary schools in all around Grand Forks, 00:14:20.789 --> 00:14:24.950 North Dakota, and they visited those schools 00:14:24.950 --> 00:14:29.710 five or six times to teach the kids about aerospace, 00:14:30.649 --> 00:14:34.090 about living in space, about wireless, about 00:14:34.090 --> 00:14:37.309 amateur radio, and they did all kinds of really 00:14:37.309 --> 00:14:40.309 cool things like, of course, launching rockets, 00:14:40.570 --> 00:14:43.970 but crafting and testing parachutes similar to 00:14:43.970 --> 00:14:48.830 what is on NASA's Orion capsule. And they designed 00:14:48.830 --> 00:14:53.389 and tested neutral buoyant objects and just all 00:14:53.389 --> 00:14:56.809 kinds of neat things. And they had the day of 00:14:56.809 --> 00:15:00.029 the contact, they had stations set up all around 00:15:00.029 --> 00:15:04.769 the gymnasium for the kids to get really involved 00:15:04.769 --> 00:15:07.769 in hands -on activities just before the contact. 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:12.659 And so they had students from actually kindergarten 00:15:12.659 --> 00:15:15.940 through college asking questions. It was just 00:15:15.940 --> 00:15:18.200 really exciting to see so much education going 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.100 on. Yeah, it sounds like it was a great group 00:15:22.100 --> 00:15:26.039 and I know I've talked to the K -0 UND station 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:30.000 several times and they created quite a presence 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.720 on the air with School Club Roundup especially 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:37.200 is my interaction with them. So I was glad to 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:40.320 hear that they were able to be involved in in 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:44.220 Q so number 1000 That's quite a landmark and 00:15:44.220 --> 00:15:48.480 we've got more to go. Yes indeed Well, we're 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:52.539 going to play a little clip here from Tim peak 00:15:52.539 --> 00:15:56.840 kg5 BVI And if you want to watch the the video 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.580 of this this is available on YouTube and this 00:15:59.580 --> 00:16:04.049 was done specifically for the anniversary for 00:16:04.049 --> 00:16:07.590 the 1000th QSO. Is that correct? That's correct 00:16:07.590 --> 00:16:10.490 and of course he's an English astronaut. He's 00:16:10.490 --> 00:16:15.250 actually the first ISS United Kingdom astronaut 00:16:15.250 --> 00:16:18.789 and he's done a lot of school contacts for us 00:16:18.789 --> 00:16:21.570 recently and he's just thrilled to be doing it. 00:16:21.690 --> 00:16:25.710 He loves it. So this is available out there on 00:16:25.710 --> 00:16:27.629 YouTube but we're gonna play the audio from it. 00:16:27.710 --> 00:16:30.690 It's about three minutes and it really gives 00:16:30.690 --> 00:16:35.149 you kind of a synopsis of the whole ARES program. 00:16:41.250 --> 00:16:47.809 Hi everyone, I'm Tim Peake and welcome aboard 00:16:47.809 --> 00:16:50.389 the International Space Station where we're orbiting 00:16:50.389 --> 00:16:54.570 Earth 16 times every day. One of the most rewarding 00:16:54.570 --> 00:16:56.789 activities that some astronauts undertake on 00:16:56.789 --> 00:17:00.179 orbit is to talk to schools using the space station's 00:17:00.179 --> 00:17:03.279 ham radio. Now these are events that are planned 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.460 by ARIS which is a worldwide group of amateur 00:17:06.460 --> 00:17:09.839 radio volunteers who are dedicated to introducing 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:13.160 young people and students to science, technology, 00:17:13.700 --> 00:17:17.079 engineering and mathematics. Now this is the 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.500 equipment here in the Columbus Laboratory which 00:17:19.500 --> 00:17:24.829 consists of a handheld radio, a headset, and 00:17:24.829 --> 00:17:28.789 we also have a ham video unit. Now as the International 00:17:28.789 --> 00:17:32.089 Space Station orbits above your location, a radio 00:17:32.089 --> 00:17:34.390 link is established between the ISS and your 00:17:34.390 --> 00:17:37.089 school. Now because we're travelling at nearly 00:17:37.089 --> 00:17:39.950 18 ,000 miles per hour, which is an incredible 00:17:39.950 --> 00:17:43.690 25 times the speed of sound, we usually get about 00:17:43.690 --> 00:17:46.450 9 or 10 minutes of good radio contact before 00:17:46.450 --> 00:17:49.960 losing the signal. So about five minutes before 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:52.480 the scheduled start time of the contact, I come 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:54.839 into the Columbus Laboratory and configure the 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:57.480 radio so that I'm on the correct channel. And 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:00.660 sometimes I'll set up the ham video too. Just 00:18:00.660 --> 00:18:03.500 before the predicted time, I begin to start calling 00:18:03.500 --> 00:18:06.299 the school using the standard amateur radio calling 00:18:06.299 --> 00:18:09.140 techniques. For example, if the call sign of 00:18:09.140 --> 00:18:13.130 your school was GB4FUN, I would say Golf Bravo 00:18:13.130 --> 00:18:16.289 4, Foxtrot Uniform November. This is Golf Bravo 00:18:16.289 --> 00:18:20.529 1 Sierra Sierra, listening and standing by. Now 00:18:20.529 --> 00:18:22.789 at your school the radio operator will be listening 00:18:22.789 --> 00:18:25.930 for my call, but may also transmit and try to 00:18:25.930 --> 00:18:28.430 call me as well. You'll probably have a much 00:18:28.430 --> 00:18:30.809 more powerful transmitter on the ground than 00:18:30.809 --> 00:18:33.710 we have up here on board, so I'm likely to hear 00:18:33.710 --> 00:18:38.170 you before you hear me. Then, once we can hear 00:18:38.170 --> 00:18:40.849 each other, then comes the best bit which is 00:18:40.849 --> 00:18:42.930 actually talking to the students and answering 00:18:42.930 --> 00:18:45.990 the questions. Once I've answered all the questions 00:18:45.990 --> 00:18:48.309 we use the remaining time to say goodbye to each 00:18:48.309 --> 00:18:51.970 other and end the connection. I'll then spend 00:18:51.970 --> 00:18:54.970 a few minutes configuring the radio back into 00:18:54.970 --> 00:18:58.069 a rebroadcast mode and then I'll go back to my 00:18:58.069 --> 00:19:00.950 day job which is of course doing science on board 00:19:00.950 --> 00:19:04.509 the International Space Station. ARIS is a brilliant 00:19:04.509 --> 00:19:07.049 opportunity for astronauts to talk to school 00:19:07.049 --> 00:19:10.450 pupils. It's really rewarding to hear how excited 00:19:10.450 --> 00:19:12.829 the students are when they're talking to somebody 00:19:12.829 --> 00:19:15.970 up here in space. And it's a true privilege to 00:19:15.970 --> 00:19:18.670 be able to inspire our next generation of scientists 00:19:18.670 --> 00:19:28.130 and engineers through amateur radio. Well, it's 00:19:28.130 --> 00:19:30.170 time to take our first break, but we'll be back 00:19:30.170 --> 00:19:34.710 with more with Rosalie White, K1 STO, right after 00:19:34.710 --> 00:19:37.950 this word from one of our real sponsors. Tower 00:19:37.950 --> 00:19:40.829 Electronics right here on HamTalk Live. This 00:19:40.829 --> 00:19:43.150 episode of HamTalk Live is brought to you by 00:19:43.150 --> 00:19:45.990 Tower Electronics. 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Rosalie White, K1STO, is our 00:21:08.329 --> 00:21:10.470 guest this evening from the amateur radio on 00:21:10.470 --> 00:21:13.109 the International Space Station, or ARIS, program, 00:21:13.690 --> 00:21:17.650 sponsored by ARRL, AMSAT, and NASA. And we're 00:21:17.650 --> 00:21:19.630 going to start taking calls now, so feel free 00:21:19.630 --> 00:21:22.059 to give us a call. The best way to do that is 00:21:22.059 --> 00:21:24.980 with Skype. Give us an audio call on Skype at 00:21:24.980 --> 00:21:27.839 HamTalk Live. Or if Skype isn't your thing, you 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:32.920 can call us on the telephone. That's 812 -NET 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:40.019 -HAM -1. That's 812 -NET -HAM -1. And you can 00:21:40.019 --> 00:21:44.700 ask your questions of Rosalie White, K1STO. So 00:21:44.700 --> 00:21:50.069 while we're back with Rosalie here, Tell us about 00:21:50.069 --> 00:21:55.490 your upcoming fundraising and a little bit about 00:21:55.490 --> 00:21:59.269 the needs for some equipment on the space station. 00:22:00.490 --> 00:22:06.049 Okay, well of course we have to keep NASA and 00:22:06.049 --> 00:22:09.509 ARL and MSTAT happy because they help us with 00:22:09.509 --> 00:22:15.329 things we need, but also the radio originally 00:22:15.329 --> 00:22:20.440 was prepared and flight certified back before 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:23.460 2000 because, of course, it was launched to the 00:22:23.460 --> 00:22:28.599 space station before the space station was inhabited. 00:22:29.460 --> 00:22:33.819 And it's old. And it's in a rough environment. 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:36.720 It floats around and gets, you know, the headset 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:40.319 may get bumped into. The radio is Velcroed on 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:43.299 the side. I mean, everything up there is Velcroed 00:22:43.299 --> 00:22:48.319 to the sides and the ceiling and the floor. And 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.559 so it's kind of a rough environment. And the 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:54.880 most expensive thing about it, well, there's 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:56.660 two things that are expensive about it. One is 00:22:56.660 --> 00:22:59.359 that you have to have seven of anything that 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:02.099 you send to the space station because if the 00:23:02.099 --> 00:23:04.779 one that's there, something happens to it, then 00:23:04.779 --> 00:23:07.380 you have to have a backup. But there's also one 00:23:07.380 --> 00:23:10.400 that goes through the shake and bake tests for 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:16.059 whether it's going to survive a launch. It also 00:23:16.059 --> 00:23:20.240 has to be tested for interference to the communication 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:23.799 systems that are up there. And it has to be tested 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:28.140 for outgassing. You don't want any noxious fumes 00:23:28.140 --> 00:23:32.180 if it overheats or something like that. So the 00:23:32.180 --> 00:23:37.039 cost of testing and getting it space flight certified 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:41.619 is incredibly expensive. And back to the seven 00:23:41.619 --> 00:23:45.690 units. There has to be one at Johnson Space Center 00:23:45.690 --> 00:23:50.630 so that if something goes wrong, it can be, our 00:23:50.630 --> 00:23:53.349 hammer operator who works there, although there's 00:23:53.349 --> 00:23:56.150 quite a few who work there, but the one who works 00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:59.490 with the AERS program specifically would have 00:23:59.490 --> 00:24:01.650 to do troubleshooting on the ground. So he has 00:24:01.650 --> 00:24:07.269 to have a flight -like unit. And then there has 00:24:07.269 --> 00:24:11.799 to be another unit that's in Russia because Russia 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.700 also has emission control and so on and so forth. 00:24:15.779 --> 00:24:18.539 So it's very expensive to have any kind of equipment 00:24:18.539 --> 00:24:22.099 up there and not only is it the radio but the 00:24:22.099 --> 00:24:24.680 power supply and the headsets and the cabling 00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.740 and the connectors and it's just not your regular 00:24:27.740 --> 00:24:33.299 PL 259. It's space certified cabling and connectors. 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:38.279 So it is very expensive and We do appreciate 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.240 some sponsors. The Yasme Foundation has given 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:50.039 us some money. The D710 radios are going to be 00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:57.720 given to us for use, we hope. And so we have 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:01.400 a challenge coin. Which anyone, of course, who 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.019 wants to give money to Eris, we would love it. 00:25:04.019 --> 00:25:07.700 But if you give $100 or more, you get a special 00:25:07.700 --> 00:25:10.480 challenge coin. It's a very beautiful coin. And 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.160 if you'll be going to Dayton, you'll be able 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:15.619 to see them there. And we do have pictures of 00:25:15.619 --> 00:25:19.940 those up on our Facebook page. And we tweeted 00:25:19.940 --> 00:25:23.319 those out earlier in the week. So you can see 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:26.279 a picture of the challenge coin if you're interested 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:32.529 in that. That's great. So so if you just go to 00:25:32.529 --> 00:25:35.910 your local ham store and they've got free shipping 00:25:36.789 --> 00:25:39.890 That doesn't help that the free shipping doesn't 00:25:39.890 --> 00:25:42.710 go to the International Space Station. Oh, I 00:25:42.710 --> 00:25:44.650 wish you know those drones They're going to be 00:25:44.650 --> 00:25:46.549 delivering things. That would be really cool 00:25:46.549 --> 00:25:48.589 wouldn't it? Yeah, I mean, you know, it's free 00:25:48.589 --> 00:25:50.589 shipping They didn't say that they didn't deliver 00:25:50.589 --> 00:25:52.750 to the International Space Station. That's right. 00:25:52.750 --> 00:26:00.130 That's right So if you'd like to so if you would 00:26:00.130 --> 00:26:06.380 like to donate to Eris and specifically pick 00:26:06.380 --> 00:26:09.640 up one of these challenge coins, what method 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.660 is best for people to do that? Well, I guess 00:26:12.660 --> 00:26:16.480 I should have said that, huh? Both the ARRL and 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:21.779 AMSAT site have a place that you can, for instance, 00:26:21.819 --> 00:26:25.839 at AMSAT there's a donate button and ARRL's ARIS 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.599 website has a donate button and thanks to AMSAT 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:35.319 they do the processing. It goes directly through 00:26:35.390 --> 00:26:38.509 amsat just as if you made a purchase of any other 00:26:38.509 --> 00:26:41.430 kind from amsat and the money is specifically 00:26:41.430 --> 00:26:44.450 channeled to eras there's a button that says 00:26:44.450 --> 00:26:47.450 eras and that's how you know it's going to come 00:26:47.450 --> 00:26:50.869 um to the right spot and i'm actually the one 00:26:50.869 --> 00:26:55.150 who will take care of making sure you get that 00:26:55.150 --> 00:27:01.150 coin so once you donate by that button it will 00:27:01.150 --> 00:27:03.829 i will be notified and it will be sent to you 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.599 Well, that's excellent. So if you're able to 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.940 donate to that we definitely encourage you to 00:27:10.940 --> 00:27:15.140 do that and Again, you can see the picture of 00:27:15.140 --> 00:27:18.819 the coin up on Facebook or Twitter or see that 00:27:18.819 --> 00:27:23.779 over at Dayton for yourself, so That's that's 00:27:23.779 --> 00:27:27.980 great and that makes some things happen and we 00:27:27.980 --> 00:27:32.099 were able to make this happen kind of on a last 00:27:32.099 --> 00:27:36.720 -minute circumstantial kind of thing. Nick Bauer, 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:41.900 KC9 Cheesy Y, is our assistant producer and he's 00:27:41.900 --> 00:27:45.680 actually in Washington DC this evening. He's 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.980 on assignment. But Nick, tell us about your opportunity 00:27:48.980 --> 00:27:53.599 to talk to the International Space Station. Yeah, 00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.220 hey Neil, hey Rosalie. When I was in high school 00:27:57.220 --> 00:28:00.009 I was in the club of Wilmington High School South, 00:28:00.589 --> 00:28:04.690 K -9 SOU. We had an opportunity to talk with 00:28:04.690 --> 00:28:08.509 a Russian space tourist, Nisen Sari, who's on 00:28:08.509 --> 00:28:14.150 the ISS. It was an incredible experience. Members 00:28:14.150 --> 00:28:16.670 in the club, we had talked to different states, 00:28:16.829 --> 00:28:19.430 different countries, but something about space 00:28:19.430 --> 00:28:23.029 that's just different. We didn't know if it would 00:28:23.029 --> 00:28:25.750 work. We were at the radio. Neil was there with 00:28:25.750 --> 00:28:30.089 us. You know, we heard her come through and it 00:28:30.089 --> 00:28:32.730 was just a really neat experience to say that 00:28:32.730 --> 00:28:35.809 we actually were able to apply what we had learned 00:28:35.809 --> 00:28:38.690 through high school classes and through our ham 00:28:38.690 --> 00:28:41.309 club and reach the International Space Station, 00:28:41.450 --> 00:28:44.170 something that 10 years later still stuck with 00:28:44.170 --> 00:28:52.130 me. Yeah, so I edited down the about six minute 00:28:52.130 --> 00:28:55.309 window we actually had on this particular pass. 00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:58.779 I edited that down to a minute and a half and 00:28:58.779 --> 00:29:03.900 cut out some of the other calls that she made 00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:07.819 that were not there and some of the static and 00:29:07.819 --> 00:29:10.380 the blank time. So we'll play that and let you 00:29:10.380 --> 00:29:15.960 listen to Nick actually on hand at the radio. 00:29:29.789 --> 00:29:32.589 The individual has a sleeping bag that they add 00:29:32.589 --> 00:29:35.630 to a wall or seat by the bag and you float inside 00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:39.130 like you can suck yourself down inside the bag. 00:29:39.450 --> 00:29:45.410 Over. We have special made food that either can't 00:29:45.410 --> 00:29:49.710 or so you add water to it and it doesn't taste, 00:29:49.809 --> 00:29:53.809 it doesn't look good but the taste is fine and 00:29:53.809 --> 00:30:16.240 you have a nice variety. Rx0ISS this is K9OU. 00:30:41.100 --> 00:30:44.660 So listening back at that clip it was amazing 00:30:44.660 --> 00:30:47.599 to me how we were listening to absolute silence 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:52.519 and then just all of a sudden there she is and 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.980 she's talking to another school and she called 00:30:54.980 --> 00:30:56.759 another school there were three of us that were 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.509 trying at the second one didn't didn't connect 00:31:00.509 --> 00:31:04.069 somehow and then by the time they got to us it 00:31:04.069 --> 00:31:06.630 was just enough to get our call sign out there 00:31:06.630 --> 00:31:10.329 and acknowledged and that was that was it and 00:31:10.329 --> 00:31:13.890 she's gone I mean it's just a very narrow window 00:31:13.890 --> 00:31:22.049 of time and it goes from zero to s9 and then 00:31:22.049 --> 00:31:28.890 s9 all the way down to zero in in no time Yeah, 00:31:28.890 --> 00:31:32.549 you can sort of picture in your mind that it's 00:31:32.549 --> 00:31:35.589 going from the horizon to the horizon and that's 00:31:35.589 --> 00:31:40.829 what happens So Nick what tell us tell us a little 00:31:40.829 --> 00:31:46.289 more about About what that means to you after 00:31:46.289 --> 00:31:51.569 that's all over Yeah, so at the time it was just 00:31:51.569 --> 00:31:54.730 a thrill even though it didn't last long it was 00:31:54.730 --> 00:31:58.920 a thrill just to experience that myself and some 00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.539 club members were interviewed by the local newspaper. 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.259 They ran a story about our club and about the 00:32:05.259 --> 00:32:09.380 contact with the space station. I spent 10 years 00:32:09.380 --> 00:32:12.359 since we had that experience and it's still a 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:16.039 story I share with people. I have an enthusiasm 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:20.200 for space and science and I was just at the Air 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.759 and Space Museum here in DC today and it's just 00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:26.960 an experience that I think about. It meant a 00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.539 lot to me and it's just a neat experience to 00:32:29.539 --> 00:32:32.160 talk to people about and and share what amateur 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.660 radio can do because it most people I mentioned 00:32:34.660 --> 00:32:37.519 it to don't realize that we have that capability 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.920 from Bloomington, Indiana to talk with the space 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.460 station Yeah, I was happy that we were able to 00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.019 do it and she got her licenses right at the last 00:32:49.019 --> 00:32:52.180 second and It was kind of like well. Hey, how 00:32:52.180 --> 00:32:54.839 would you like to try this in two days? It was 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:59.430 like Uh, wow. Okay. We'll try it. Sure. Why not? 00:32:59.430 --> 00:33:02.890 You know, uh, that's not the way that, you know, 00:33:02.890 --> 00:33:06.009 we just talked to Rosalie, you know, about all 00:33:06.009 --> 00:33:10.170 this planning and a year, you know, and some 00:33:10.170 --> 00:33:13.069 of them have been waiting two years and in the 00:33:13.069 --> 00:33:15.890 past and, and, you know, planning everything 00:33:15.890 --> 00:33:18.470 and all these backups and everything. And no, 00:33:18.569 --> 00:33:23.630 we, we just, you know, go and we certainly, we 00:33:23.630 --> 00:33:27.390 certainly knew that We certainly knew that your 00:33:27.390 --> 00:33:31.829 school was you know you had you had good education 00:33:31.829 --> 00:33:34.289 going on and we knew that you had a set up and 00:33:34.289 --> 00:33:37.990 it was just fell into place. Well thankfully 00:33:37.990 --> 00:33:41.190 it did thankfully it did and I was able to get 00:33:41.190 --> 00:33:44.329 one of our club members AJ to kind of help me 00:33:44.329 --> 00:33:50.490 out with with some of the antenna issues and 00:33:50.490 --> 00:33:53.289 the Doppler shift that I'd never tried before. 00:33:53.450 --> 00:33:56.269 I'd never done a satellite contact before, so 00:33:56.269 --> 00:34:01.650 that was an amazing first attempt at a satellite 00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:04.970 contact, the International Space Station. Well, 00:34:04.970 --> 00:34:10.289 I know that Nick is very much interested in math 00:34:10.289 --> 00:34:17.150 and also space and of course NASA promotes science, 00:34:17.289 --> 00:34:21.389 technology, engineering, and math. Almost might 00:34:21.389 --> 00:34:25.789 have been something Nick that Kept you going 00:34:25.789 --> 00:34:32.550 toward that math career Yes, definitely Yeah, 00:34:32.769 --> 00:34:37.050 Nick was an outstanding student of mine and and 00:34:37.050 --> 00:34:40.469 he has a lot of talent in science and definitely 00:34:40.469 --> 00:34:44.989 math and and He's been willing to come help us 00:34:44.989 --> 00:34:47.530 on the show here, too. So in the last few weeks, 00:34:47.570 --> 00:34:51.849 so We appreciate that. All right, well, we're 00:34:51.849 --> 00:34:54.949 going to come back and take some more calls and 00:34:54.949 --> 00:34:59.050 talk with Rosalie about the future of the ARIS 00:34:59.050 --> 00:35:01.530 program right after this word from the HamStation 00:35:01.530 --> 00:35:04.530 here on HamTalk Live. This episode of HamTalk 00:35:04.530 --> 00:35:07.670 Live is brought to you by the HamStation. 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The 00:36:41.090 --> 00:36:43.130 amateur radio on the International Space Station 00:36:43.130 --> 00:36:46.590 is our topic tonight. We have some time for a 00:36:46.590 --> 00:36:49.630 call or two more, so give us a call on Skype 00:36:49.630 --> 00:36:55.849 at HamTalk Live or by telephone at 812 -NET -HAM 00:36:55.849 --> 00:37:02.309 -1. Again, Skype us on HamTalk Live or by telephone 00:37:02.309 --> 00:37:05.690 812 -NET -HAM -1 if you have a Question that 00:37:05.690 --> 00:37:08.289 you would like to ask about the heiress program 00:37:08.289 --> 00:37:13.070 about rosalie feel free to give us a call so 00:37:13.070 --> 00:37:18.190 Rosalie what's in store for the future of the 00:37:18.190 --> 00:37:21.690 the heiress program now that the big anniversary 00:37:21.690 --> 00:37:26.010 number 1000 is is over and the 20 -year anniversary 00:37:26.010 --> 00:37:32.110 is nearing What's the future hold for? heiress 00:37:32.110 --> 00:37:39.250 well two thousandth contact or Mars. In fact 00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:43.489 we have had some discussions about Mars capabilities 00:37:43.489 --> 00:37:50.329 and which NASA vehicles would be best for us 00:37:50.329 --> 00:37:54.489 to think about and for instance there's the back 00:37:54.489 --> 00:38:00.510 porch which is a structure that looks like a 00:38:00.510 --> 00:38:03.360 deck. on the back of one of the ISS modules. 00:38:04.699 --> 00:38:08.519 And we're very serious about having some equipment 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:13.119 out on that deck. And there were a lot of benefits 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:17.019 to not having it inside, and have the cabling, 00:38:17.019 --> 00:38:24.639 of course, inside. But for the near future, we 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:28.579 do plan to have more slow -scan television transmissions. 00:38:30.420 --> 00:38:35.500 and just keep everything going as it's been going. 00:38:35.659 --> 00:38:39.760 We always hope to have an astronaut who decides 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.860 that rag chewing is the greatest thing since 00:38:41.860 --> 00:38:45.880 sliced bread. They're so busy, they don't have 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.800 loads of time to just rag chew, but now and again 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:54.059 you get one who decides that it is a lot of fun, 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:59.210 the bug bites them bad. Yeah, that would be great 00:38:59.210 --> 00:39:02.489 if we had somebody that would do you know, I 00:39:02.489 --> 00:39:05.550 think I don't know what comes to mind is Owen 00:39:05.550 --> 00:39:08.710 Gary Which he's the first one that I ever heard 00:39:08.710 --> 00:39:11.849 and I don't know it seems like you know He may 00:39:11.849 --> 00:39:14.289 have been a little bit better at that than than 00:39:14.289 --> 00:39:17.769 some but the demands of the crew I think have 00:39:17.769 --> 00:39:20.409 grown exponentially since that point in time 00:39:20.670 --> 00:39:24.010 Yes, plus Owen was a ham to begin with and Ron 00:39:24.010 --> 00:39:27.849 Preece was and Ken Cameron was and you know, 00:39:27.849 --> 00:39:32.329 there were some that Just were already quite 00:39:32.329 --> 00:39:36.610 experienced but some of them take to it just 00:39:36.610 --> 00:39:40.050 so easily and of course It doesn't take a lot 00:39:40.050 --> 00:39:42.329 for them to pass the test. They're all very smart 00:39:42.329 --> 00:39:48.210 people quick Broad background a lot of it. They 00:39:48.210 --> 00:39:52.260 already know the answers to the tests and if 00:39:52.260 --> 00:39:56.500 they don't know a lot about electronics maybe 00:39:56.500 --> 00:39:58.179 they're more in the medical field or something 00:39:58.179 --> 00:40:02.039 like that it doesn't take them very long to learn 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.739 and like Sunita Williams you know she really 00:40:06.739 --> 00:40:11.679 enjoyed talking and Owen Garriott's son Richard 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.059 was not a ham to begin with but You know, once 00:40:16.059 --> 00:40:20.139 they were up there and saw how much fun it was 00:40:20.139 --> 00:40:23.719 just, they talked about things like how amazing 00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:27.980 it is to come up to the coast of some continent 00:40:27.980 --> 00:40:31.280 and as you were over the ocean, you know, it 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.260 was just deathly silent, black, no lights and 00:40:34.260 --> 00:40:37.519 all of a sudden there was a clamoring of people 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.199 wanting to talk to them and how cool that was. 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.969 Well, I can't, cannot imagine. Going up there 00:40:46.969 --> 00:40:53.710 that's just Beyond anything I can fathom We've 00:40:53.710 --> 00:40:56.250 got time for one more call eight one two net 00:40:56.250 --> 00:41:02.349 hand one give us a call I'll leave one last question 00:41:02.349 --> 00:41:08.170 here Out of all the one thousand contacts which 00:41:08.170 --> 00:41:11.730 which one if you had to pick one that was the 00:41:11.730 --> 00:41:14.460 most memorable which Which one would that be 00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:20.719 for you? Well, that's so difficult because everyone 00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:25.159 I've ever heard, it makes the hair stand up on 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.980 the back of my neck. You know, it's the anticipation 00:41:29.980 --> 00:41:32.880 just like you said, you know, there's silence 00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:38.760 and then you think you hear some static or maybe 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:41.360 it's your imagination. And then you do hear the 00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.300 static and then you start worrying is this all 00:41:43.300 --> 00:41:47.880 I'm going to get is static. And then a voice, 00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:50.699 a syllable comes out and then all of a sudden 00:41:50.699 --> 00:41:55.500 you hear the call sign and every time you hear 00:41:55.500 --> 00:41:59.980 about the students afterwards and the team, the 00:41:59.980 --> 00:42:05.039 many, many people on our team who. Do so much 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.400 and they say the same thing. They just it's a 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:13.079 thrill for them to be able to Facilitate the 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.780 general public learning about space learning 00:42:16.780 --> 00:42:21.119 about some sort of science learning about radio 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:26.019 It's it's just so exciting. I mean I've heard 00:42:26.019 --> 00:42:29.019 so many teachers and there's some really good 00:42:29.019 --> 00:42:33.869 YouTube's out there of students saying what they 00:42:33.869 --> 00:42:36.590 learned and how you can just in the excitement 00:42:36.590 --> 00:42:40.929 I saw a photo of a teacher and a recent contact 00:42:40.929 --> 00:42:43.170 and you know how when you're really surprised 00:42:43.170 --> 00:42:45.050 and you put your hand over your mouth and it's 00:42:45.050 --> 00:42:47.969 like you're going oh my well she was doing that 00:42:47.969 --> 00:42:52.010 she was just so thrilled when it happened as 00:42:52.010 --> 00:42:55.510 it's just the whole thing is a thrill but I guess 00:42:55.980 --> 00:42:59.480 Would have to say that Sunita Williams and Doug 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.360 Wheelock and Mike Finke and Richard Garriott 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.639 some of their contacts were my most memorable 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.320 because they were just so personable and You 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.519 could tell they loved it the emotion came through 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:16.219 That's great and and that's exactly how we what 00:43:16.219 --> 00:43:18.980 we thought too was Okay, is that all I'm gonna 00:43:18.980 --> 00:43:21.539 get is this little static verse and it's this 00:43:21.539 --> 00:43:24.670 roller coaster. You're like Wow, is that it? 00:43:24.769 --> 00:43:28.590 And then all of a sudden it works. And it's just 00:43:28.590 --> 00:43:31.670 fabulous. Well, that's a wrap for this week's 00:43:31.670 --> 00:43:35.769 edition of HamTalk Live. Thank you so much, Rosalie, 00:43:36.150 --> 00:43:39.989 for coming on. My guest tonight has been Rosalie 00:43:39.989 --> 00:43:44.369 White, K1STO. And thanks to the callers and listeners 00:43:44.369 --> 00:43:47.289 out there in cyberspace. And I'll invite you 00:43:47.289 --> 00:43:50.590 all back next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern 00:43:50.590 --> 00:43:54.760 Time. when my guest will be Craig Thompson, K9CT, 00:43:55.460 --> 00:43:58.099 who is recently back from his de -expedition 00:43:58.099 --> 00:44:01.800 to Palmyra. So be sure to call in and ask questions 00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.699 about his trip. And for a list of all of our 00:44:04.699 --> 00:44:07.300 upcoming guests, be sure to visit HamTalkLive 00:44:07.300 --> 00:44:11.539 .com. So for now, with Rosalie White, K1STO, 00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:14.699 Andy Morrison, K9AWM on fake commercial duty, 00:44:15.260 --> 00:44:18.659 and assistant producer Nick Bauer, KC9GZY on 00:44:18.659 --> 00:44:21.590 assignment in Washington. This is Neil Rapp, 00:44:21.750 --> 00:44:27.429 WB9VPG, saying 7375, and may the good DX be yours.