WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.160 This episode of HamTalk Live is brought to you 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:06.639 by Tower Electronics. For connectors, cables, 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:13.980 and more, call 920 -435 -2973 or visit pl -259 00:00:13.980 --> 00:00:18.379 .com and by the HamStation. Get your new radio 00:00:18.379 --> 00:00:24.519 or antenna by calling 800 -729 -4373 or go to 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:59.130 hamstation .com. Good evening, everyone. This 00:00:59.130 --> 00:01:03.210 is HamTalk Live episode number 10. Dayton Hamvention 00:01:03.210 --> 00:01:08.129 preview satin odds recorded on Tuesday, April 00:01:08.129 --> 00:01:13.709 26, 2016. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks 00:01:13.709 --> 00:01:17.150 for tuning into this episode of HamTalk Live. 00:01:17.409 --> 00:01:20.950 Tonight on the show, Corey Shields, KB9JHU will 00:01:20.950 --> 00:01:23.849 be on the show to talk about the upcoming Tapper 00:01:23.849 --> 00:01:26.930 Forum at the Dayton Hamvention and his presentation 00:01:26.930 --> 00:01:31.579 there. on SatNogs. Last week on the show, Don 00:01:31.579 --> 00:01:34.980 Wilbanks, AE5DW, was back to talk about amateur 00:01:34.980 --> 00:01:38.140 radio newslines Bill Pasternak -Youngham of the 00:01:38.140 --> 00:01:41.939 Year Award. Last year's winner, Anna Veale, WZeroANT, 00:01:42.180 --> 00:01:45.620 called in, and Andy Morrison, K9AWM, played our 00:01:45.620 --> 00:01:49.659 live contest and almost walked away with a brand 00:01:49.659 --> 00:01:53.920 new ICOM IC7300. So if you missed that show or 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.040 any future show, you can listen to the replay. 00:01:56.379 --> 00:02:01.260 That's on HamTalkLive .com or on Spreaker, iTunes, 00:02:01.659 --> 00:02:04.700 Stitcher, SoundCloud, Google Play, TuneIn or 00:02:04.700 --> 00:02:08.060 YouTube. Tonight is the start of our Dayton Hamvention 00:02:08.060 --> 00:02:11.840 preview and due to some unfortunate circumstances 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:15.360 our original guest had to reschedule so tonight 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.539 Corey Shields KB9GHU is here to talk about his 00:02:19.539 --> 00:02:22.680 SatNogs presentation which will take place at 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:26.409 the Tapper Forum on Friday morning of Hamvention. 00:02:27.169 --> 00:02:29.650 In the weeks to come, we'll be joined by the 00:02:29.650 --> 00:02:33.169 instructors and youth forums moderator, Carol 00:02:33.169 --> 00:02:37.629 Perry, WB2MGP, then the general chairman and 00:02:37.629 --> 00:02:40.949 the official spokesperson for Hamvention, and 00:02:40.949 --> 00:02:43.090 last but not least, the director of the Dayton 00:02:43.090 --> 00:02:47.069 Contest University, Tim Duffy, K3LR. 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The show is being recorded tonight 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:53.360 simply as a podcast on Tuesday. We'll be back 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:56.620 to taking your calls live on Thursday night when 00:03:56.620 --> 00:04:00.979 Carol Perry WB2MGP joins us. The reason that 00:04:00.979 --> 00:04:03.919 this show was not live on Thursday night is that 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:08.599 my mother Margie Rapp WD9HE became a silent key 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:12.060 earlier that morning. So I was tending to my 00:04:12.060 --> 00:04:16.199 dad Dell WB9 UKG and mom's funeral arrangements. 00:04:17.459 --> 00:04:20.379 I appreciate everyone that sent condolences and 00:04:20.379 --> 00:04:22.500 hopefully I won't have to miss another show for 00:04:22.500 --> 00:04:26.060 a long time. I feel like I should take just a 00:04:26.060 --> 00:04:29.240 moment to talk about mom. She was always supportive 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:33.079 of what I did, especially ham radio. While my 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:35.300 dad and I both took a ham radio class and became 00:04:35.300 --> 00:04:39.550 licensed in 1976, My mom couldn't stand not knowing 00:04:39.550 --> 00:04:42.689 what we were saying in Morse code, so the following 00:04:42.689 --> 00:04:45.029 year mom signed up for the class and got her 00:04:45.029 --> 00:04:48.769 novice license and we upgraded together as a 00:04:48.769 --> 00:04:51.990 family, fighting through the struggles of faster 00:04:51.990 --> 00:04:54.649 code speeds and more complicated theory questions 00:04:54.649 --> 00:04:58.410 at the same time. Soon mom was on the radio talking 00:04:58.410 --> 00:05:00.970 to the world and not just eavesdropping on dad 00:05:00.970 --> 00:05:04.709 and I. She loved the YL International Sideband 00:05:04.709 --> 00:05:07.189 System on 40 meters and used it to get her work 00:05:07.189 --> 00:05:10.569 to all states. Many nights she would be on the 00:05:10.569 --> 00:05:14.389 local repeater with another YL friend, WB9RXG, 00:05:14.589 --> 00:05:18.269 talking about recipes while all the guys were 00:05:18.269 --> 00:05:20.089 sitting back listening and wondering why they 00:05:20.089 --> 00:05:23.490 would waste such precious repeater time talking 00:05:23.490 --> 00:05:26.889 about cooking when they could be talking about 00:05:26.889 --> 00:05:30.170 things they talk about, gardens, ailments, and 00:05:30.170 --> 00:05:33.939 the weather. Finally, they picked a simplex frequency 00:05:33.939 --> 00:05:37.240 and got off the repeater, but secretly people 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:42.439 were turning the dial to listen. Mom always had 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:44.459 a friendly voice to those passing through or 00:05:44.459 --> 00:05:48.639 needing help. Mom even helped track down a bootlegger. 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:53.759 ABCDEF was his call. He said it was a new 6x0 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:58.439 call sign. His supposed friend in the car, which 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:01.129 mysteriously sounded like the same guy, throwing 00:06:01.129 --> 00:06:06.610 his voice, said he tried to get AAAAAA, but it 00:06:06.610 --> 00:06:13.170 was already taken. So he was BBBBBB. Well, Mom 00:06:13.170 --> 00:06:17.470 kept talking to him as some of the club members 00:06:17.470 --> 00:06:20.490 were driving around doing some direction finding 00:06:20.490 --> 00:06:25.889 and trying to triangulate the signal. Then there 00:06:25.889 --> 00:06:30.029 was Ken Conduff, WB9ZHL, who came the way to 00:06:30.029 --> 00:06:33.329 Vincent's just to meet us all and Their whole 00:06:33.329 --> 00:06:36.170 family became lifelong friends and when we traveled 00:06:36.170 --> 00:06:40.889 to take our upgrade Test in Louisville She told 00:06:40.889 --> 00:06:43.029 Ken where we were along the way as we were driving 00:06:43.029 --> 00:06:47.290 on two meters only just discover that He had 00:06:47.290 --> 00:06:49.670 arranged a surprise State Police escort to take 00:06:49.670 --> 00:06:53.509 us the rest of the way to our hotel You can imagine 00:06:53.509 --> 00:06:57.389 our look When they pulled us over and said are 00:06:57.389 --> 00:07:00.160 you guys the ones? that we're supposed to take 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:04.519 in. And one night in the early 80s, Chuck at 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:08.279 9 ESO, who I would later reunite with when I 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:11.759 moved here to Bloomington in the Bloomington 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:15.740 Amateur Radio Club, was traveling from Bloomington 00:07:15.740 --> 00:07:18.459 to Vincennes to host a meeting with management 00:07:18.459 --> 00:07:20.980 people in southwest Indiana and he was chatting 00:07:20.980 --> 00:07:24.100 with a friend, Woody Parks. As he got further 00:07:24.100 --> 00:07:27.000 away from Bloomington and the Bloomington repeater, 00:07:27.339 --> 00:07:29.740 He moved to the Vincennes repeater, and Woody 00:07:29.740 --> 00:07:32.180 suggested that he give a shout to Mom. Well, 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.839 before he could even reply, my mom jumped into 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:38.120 the queue cell. Later that evening, Mom and I 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:40.699 went to the Holiday Inn and picked him up and 00:07:40.699 --> 00:07:43.180 took him to the local ham club meeting that night. 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:49.199 Mom's call sign was WD9HE, but everyone knew 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:56.290 her by her phonetics. Happy Easter egg. In the 00:07:56.290 --> 00:07:58.889 last several years, as her mobility became limited 00:07:58.889 --> 00:08:03.889 to just driving a scooter, even though she hadn't 00:08:03.889 --> 00:08:06.470 been on the air in years, she proudly displayed 00:08:06.470 --> 00:08:09.790 her old ham radio call sign license plate on 00:08:09.790 --> 00:08:14.170 the back. Please join me for a moment to remember 00:08:14.170 --> 00:08:26.509 my mom, Margie, the happy Easter egg. 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Just search for HamTalk Live. Corey Shields, 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:05.960 KB9GHU, has spent most of his life in and around 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:08.759 Terre Haute in Bloomington, Indiana and has been 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:11.919 a ham since 1994. He studied computer science 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.559 and informatics at Indiana University. Cory is 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.899 a manager of system administrators for Mozilla, 00:10:19.220 --> 00:10:22.340 the group behind the Firefox web browser. He 00:10:22.340 --> 00:10:24.379 has a strong interest in digital communications, 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:27.299 particularly packet, as well as weather spotting, 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:30.919 emergency communications, and contesting. Cory 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:34.220 is with a group called SatNogs that is an open 00:10:34.220 --> 00:10:37.860 source ground station network for satellites, 00:10:37.860 --> 00:10:41.799 and he'll be presenting about SatNogs at the 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:44.889 Tapper Forum on Friday morning of Hamvention, 00:10:45.190 --> 00:10:50.309 which starts at 9 .15 a .m. in room one of the 00:10:50.309 --> 00:10:53.370 forum area. And Cory's part of the program is 00:10:53.370 --> 00:10:57.629 at about 9 .35 a .m. So, Cory, welcome to HamTalk 00:10:57.629 --> 00:11:01.190 Live. Thanks, Neil, and hello to you and all 00:11:01.190 --> 00:11:02.690 of your listeners. It's good to be here with 00:11:02.690 --> 00:11:06.710 you. Yeah, I'm glad you could step in here this 00:11:06.710 --> 00:11:10.230 evening and talk about the SatNogs program. So, 00:11:10.230 --> 00:11:13.899 tell us what exactly SatNogs is. and how it got 00:11:13.899 --> 00:11:16.600 started. Sure. Well, you touched on the name. 00:11:17.059 --> 00:11:20.580 It's a bit of an acronym. SATNOGS stands for 00:11:20.580 --> 00:11:24.259 Satellite Networked Open Ground Station. And 00:11:24.259 --> 00:11:28.340 there are multiple parts to this project. At 00:11:28.340 --> 00:11:32.100 the core, the problem that we're looking to solve 00:11:32.100 --> 00:11:34.379 is that there are more and more satellites up 00:11:34.379 --> 00:11:37.539 in space today, especially with the CubeSat movement, 00:11:38.460 --> 00:11:42.679 that are downlinking data constantly. day and 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:45.340 night, and there are not enough people listening 00:11:45.340 --> 00:11:49.259 for the data down here on Earth. Typically, a 00:11:49.259 --> 00:11:51.620 lot of these satellites, especially put up by 00:11:51.620 --> 00:11:55.220 universities, are looking to amateur radio operators 00:11:55.220 --> 00:11:58.519 to use the equipment that they have and the experience 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.240 and the knowledge that they have to capture the 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.179 telemetry that comes down from these satellites 00:12:03.179 --> 00:12:07.080 and then relay that telemetry back to the satellite 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:10.110 operators. And there are a good number of amateur 00:12:10.110 --> 00:12:14.850 radio operators who do this today and are very 00:12:14.850 --> 00:12:17.970 successful at it. What we're looking to do is 00:12:17.970 --> 00:12:21.409 get ahead of the, I guess what you could call 00:12:21.409 --> 00:12:26.129 the space race in CubeSats with the ever growing 00:12:26.129 --> 00:12:29.350 number of CubeSats being launched every month 00:12:29.350 --> 00:12:33.850 and make sure that there is enough capacity of 00:12:33.850 --> 00:12:35.789 ground stations that are here on earth listening 00:12:35.789 --> 00:12:40.320 for all of that data. The way that we want to 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:45.700 do this is making this collection of data as 00:12:45.700 --> 00:12:49.480 automated and autonomous as possible. That way 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:52.840 we can be collecting data from any location, 00:12:53.299 --> 00:12:56.279 any time, day or night, without having to have 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:00.600 an operator there specifically stating the frequency 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:04.259 or the Doppler shift or tuning knobs like most 00:13:04.259 --> 00:13:07.480 people have to do today. So to make that happen, 00:13:07.700 --> 00:13:13.080 we have some software, both for a ground station 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.860 that would run at an operator's house and for 00:13:16.860 --> 00:13:20.899 the network that runs out in the internet. And 00:13:20.899 --> 00:13:24.059 the two can talk to each other and the network 00:13:24.059 --> 00:13:26.720 can send commands to the ground station saying, 00:13:27.259 --> 00:13:29.980 hey, there's a satellite that we are interested 00:13:29.980 --> 00:13:33.340 in and it's going to pass by you. Here's the 00:13:33.340 --> 00:13:35.759 telemetry data for the satellite. Here's the 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:38.179 frequency that I want you to watch. And here's 00:13:38.179 --> 00:13:41.340 the time range. And then the ground station knows 00:13:41.340 --> 00:13:45.620 to put that in its list of tasks to do. And when 00:13:45.620 --> 00:13:48.519 that satellite passes by, it's going to track 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.000 that satellite, track its azimuth elevation, 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:55.279 and perform all of the Doppler shifting and receive 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:59.360 the frequency. And then it will take that data 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:03.059 and pass it back up to the network where it is 00:14:03.059 --> 00:14:06.200 freely available for all researchers to have. 00:14:07.500 --> 00:14:10.559 The other component to this project is the ground 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:16.379 station itself. There are very few options for 00:14:16.379 --> 00:14:18.899 azimuth elevation rotator systems out there. 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:21.580 And while they're very good, they're also very 00:14:21.580 --> 00:14:26.940 expensive. So we're looking to get people into 00:14:27.100 --> 00:14:29.000 setting up a ground station at a lower price 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:33.659 point. We have homebrew antenna designs out there 00:14:33.659 --> 00:14:37.879 on our website that people can make for fairly 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:42.259 low cost, anything from cross -yogis, helical 00:14:42.259 --> 00:14:47.179 antennas, and the likes. We also have what's 00:14:47.179 --> 00:14:50.360 I think most interesting to many people is the 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:54.919 ground station. Rotator itself which is mostly 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:59.580 3d printed parts like your gears and your the 00:14:59.580 --> 00:15:02.139 parts to actually hold everything together inside 00:15:02.139 --> 00:15:07.120 the case and Everything fits inside a frame of 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.259 metal using some some pretty standard equipment 00:15:11.259 --> 00:15:17.019 These 3d printed parts then make an azimuth elevation 00:15:18.150 --> 00:15:23.409 tracking rotator that we can use to track these 00:15:23.409 --> 00:15:27.009 satellites. The price point of this, if you have 00:15:27.009 --> 00:15:29.929 access to a 3D printer, comes down substantially 00:15:29.929 --> 00:15:34.929 compared to a commercial option, albeit maybe 00:15:34.929 --> 00:15:40.690 not as strong in terms of wind loading. We've 00:15:40.690 --> 00:15:43.970 tested it. It's pretty strong in terms of what 00:15:43.970 --> 00:15:47.860 kind of weight it can hold up against. but you're 00:15:47.860 --> 00:15:50.679 talking plastic versus metal gears, there is 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.000 going to be a shorter breaking point there. But 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.600 that's pretty cool that you can just print your 00:15:55.600 --> 00:16:01.799 own rotator. Yeah, it really is. It's every ham's 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:04.600 excuse to go buy a 3D printer. Oh yeah, absolutely. 00:16:04.860 --> 00:16:09.480 As if we need an excuse, another excuse to go 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:13.860 buy a 3D printer. So that's pretty cool. And 00:16:13.860 --> 00:16:16.179 so you gather all this data and the more ground 00:16:16.179 --> 00:16:20.139 stations you have that can link into this, then 00:16:20.139 --> 00:16:23.500 the more continuous the reception of all of this 00:16:23.500 --> 00:16:26.740 data is going to be. Absolutely. The more coverage 00:16:26.740 --> 00:16:31.519 we can get. I mean, there are some great hands 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:34.059 that are out there collecting satellite data. 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:37.500 Constantly as much as they can on their free 00:16:37.500 --> 00:16:40.700 time and these guys are doing a great job And 00:16:40.700 --> 00:16:43.039 we're just looking to take that to the next step 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:45.820 and make it fully automated so that you know 00:16:45.820 --> 00:16:48.460 when they go off to their day job their their 00:16:48.460 --> 00:16:52.059 stations can still be Collecting data and sending 00:16:52.059 --> 00:16:54.940 that back up to the network So we want to make 00:16:54.940 --> 00:16:58.679 this a fully autonomous process. Well, that sounds 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:01.279 sounds really great. So how exactly did this 00:17:01.580 --> 00:17:04.240 Let's get started. I saw some of the history 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:09.880 of this. Sure, yeah. This is mostly kicked off 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:14.059 by the hackerspace group out in Athens, Greece. 00:17:14.500 --> 00:17:17.259 In fact, that comprises most of the core team 00:17:17.259 --> 00:17:21.259 to this day. They were looking to solve this 00:17:21.259 --> 00:17:24.799 problem of not enough data being collected from 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:28.319 all these CubeSats that are going up. And in 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:32.859 process of starting this project, they also entered 00:17:32.859 --> 00:17:35.519 into a couple of competitions. I think there 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:39.680 was an ESA competition, and they were finalists 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:43.619 for People's Choice Award there. And then recently, 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:47.900 just a couple years ago, the website Hackaday 00:17:47.900 --> 00:17:52.160 has their annual contest, and the Sat Nox Project 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.890 won the Hackaday Prize. as one of the coolest 00:17:55.890 --> 00:17:59.789 projects of the year. So that has definitely 00:17:59.789 --> 00:18:02.390 helped out in popularity and helped spread the 00:18:02.390 --> 00:18:04.650 word and get some more people involved. And since 00:18:04.650 --> 00:18:07.650 it is an open source project, it really is a 00:18:07.650 --> 00:18:10.690 community where we are looking for people to 00:18:10.690 --> 00:18:12.849 get involved, not just from a ground station 00:18:12.849 --> 00:18:17.269 standpoint, but to help the entire system come 00:18:17.269 --> 00:18:20.849 along and grow. Oh, that's great. So that's a 00:18:20.849 --> 00:18:24.680 little bit about the program now. This is our 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:28.940 Dayton Hamvention preview time and so we want 00:18:28.940 --> 00:18:32.339 to kind of tie this into what's going on at Hamvention. 00:18:32.460 --> 00:18:35.500 So you're going to be talking more about this 00:18:35.500 --> 00:18:37.859 and we're not going to give everything away because 00:18:37.859 --> 00:18:40.839 we want to save some things for people who are 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:45.079 going to the Tapper Forum, the Tucson Amateur 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.640 Packet Radio Group. But what's happening at the 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.750 Tapper Forum this year at Hamvention? Yeah, great. 00:18:54.390 --> 00:18:58.490 And yes, Thursday morning we'll be there. I'm 00:18:58.490 --> 00:19:00.390 sorry, Friday morning. We'll be there at Tapper 00:19:00.390 --> 00:19:03.769 Forum. And please do come, not just for my presentation, 00:19:03.930 --> 00:19:07.269 but the entire forum. There's a great lineup. 00:19:08.329 --> 00:19:11.809 Right now, this year, there's a lot going on 00:19:11.809 --> 00:19:15.869 in the digital space with amateur radio. Just 00:19:15.869 --> 00:19:19.269 scratching the surface, you mentioned SDR. for 00:19:19.269 --> 00:19:22.829 one. There are a couple of presentations about 00:19:22.829 --> 00:19:26.809 that and SatNogs itself makes heavy use of SDR. 00:19:27.410 --> 00:19:29.849 The entire radio component in a ground station 00:19:29.849 --> 00:19:34.289 can be as simple as a $30 software -defined radio 00:19:34.289 --> 00:19:40.329 stick. So with that kind of a jump in technology 00:19:40.329 --> 00:19:44.450 where you can build a ground station or build 00:19:44.450 --> 00:19:48.509 some kind of receiver or even people doing home 00:19:48.700 --> 00:19:51.940 aircraft receiver, aircraft telemetry receivers 00:19:51.940 --> 00:19:56.460 with components that are as cheap as a $25 radio 00:19:56.460 --> 00:20:01.799 and a $35 computer in a Raspberry Pi is quite 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:08.559 a feat and there's a lot to be learned in terms 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:12.200 of crossing over amateur radio with these technologies 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:15.400 and that's a lot of what you'll hear in Tapper. 00:20:17.309 --> 00:20:21.450 There's also some high -speed digital forum going 00:20:21.450 --> 00:20:24.869 on as well. Some ham -wan. People also know it 00:20:24.869 --> 00:20:30.410 as broadband ham nets, taking 802 .11 devices 00:20:30.410 --> 00:20:35.029 and using them for amateur radio purposes. And 00:20:35.029 --> 00:20:37.190 it's coming up with long distances there. So 00:20:37.190 --> 00:20:40.910 you'll find that in the Tapper form. The digital 00:20:40.910 --> 00:20:43.990 space now in ham radio, personally, this is what 00:20:43.990 --> 00:20:48.599 excites me. Uh, in, in amateur radio, it spans 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:52.759 all frequencies. You go down to HF and you've 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:57.279 got things like PSK 31 and, and free DV all the 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.619 way up to the microwave frequencies. And some 00:21:00.619 --> 00:21:02.460 of these satellites that are down, like, it's 00:21:02.460 --> 00:21:06.140 an exciting time. Oh, there's, there's just all 00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:10.019 kinds of, uh, innovations taking place and, um, 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.079 it's hard to keep up with them all. You know, 00:21:12.939 --> 00:21:16.099 I get on the, on the air and I hear these new 00:21:16.099 --> 00:21:17.799 things. I'm like, wait a minute. That doesn't 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.380 sound like what I usually hear. Oh, it's a new 00:21:21.380 --> 00:21:26.319 mode. Yeah. And even those modes are ever evolving 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:28.880 and changing. It's, it's not just, uh, what mode 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:30.880 is it anymore? It's what baud rate of the mode 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.880 of my hearing. And, uh, it's kind of, it really 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:36.880 is hard to tell sometimes. Yeah. I used to be 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.359 really good at just listening and I can tell 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:42.720 you which one it was. It just doesn't work that 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:46.220 way anymore. So tell us exactly, you know, if 00:21:46.220 --> 00:21:49.940 somebody does come to the Tapper Forum without 00:21:49.940 --> 00:21:53.339 giving everything away, what are you going to 00:21:53.339 --> 00:21:55.640 be? What are the topics that you're going to 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:59.019 cover in your part of that forum with the Sat 00:21:59.019 --> 00:22:02.099 Nox? Sure, definitely. And please do come to 00:22:02.099 --> 00:22:06.079 the forum. I know that Friday morning is a very 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:08.220 tough time to compete against the flea market. 00:22:09.019 --> 00:22:13.339 But I promise you we will have something to keep 00:22:13.339 --> 00:22:16.259 you awake that time of morning. We're going to 00:22:16.259 --> 00:22:20.279 definitely go through the entire project, the 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:22.180 different aspects of the project both in the 00:22:22.180 --> 00:22:24.779 ground station and in the network components 00:22:24.779 --> 00:22:27.099 and the problems that we're trying to solve, 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:32.920 as well as show off a couple of what demonstrations 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:36.079 of what the network looks like, what some of 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:39.180 the telemetry that we collect looks like, and 00:22:39.180 --> 00:22:44.839 how people can interact with the network. And 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:49.259 in addition, the forum isn't quite the place 00:22:49.259 --> 00:22:53.259 to demonstrate a ground station fully operational 00:22:53.259 --> 00:22:57.839 itself, but we will have a 3D printed ground 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:01.400 station on the floor demonstrated in the North 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:06.380 Hall inside the Pihara Arena as well. Oh, that 00:23:06.380 --> 00:23:09.799 sounds great. And hopefully people can make it 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:13.579 to the Tapper Forum to check all of that out. 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.859 So it's time to take our final break, but we'll 00:23:16.859 --> 00:23:20.519 be back with more with Cory Shields Keep me dying 00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:23.420 change you right after this message from tower 00:23:23.420 --> 00:23:26.180 electronic This episode of ham talk live is brought 00:23:26.180 --> 00:23:29.240 to you by tower electronics tower electronics 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:32.579 has been the hams dime store since 1978 bringing 00:23:32.579 --> 00:23:35.400 connectors antennas cables and other parts to 00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:38.180 the world Scott and Jill travel the country bringing 00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:40.920 their store to you at ham fest but you can also 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:47.099 order online at PL -259 .com or by calling 920 00:23:47.099 --> 00:23:53.440 -435 -2973. 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And some 00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.380 other upcoming shows include Cedarburg, Wisconsin, 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:54.279 Sandwich, Illinois, and Dayton, Ohio. Corey Shields, 00:24:54.339 --> 00:24:57.359 KB9JHU is joining us during our Dayton Hamvention 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:00.099 Preview. Corey will be one of the presenters 00:25:00.099 --> 00:25:04.490 at the Tapper Forum. Hamvention, and since we're 00:25:04.490 --> 00:25:08.170 just recording this episode, since we're doing 00:25:08.170 --> 00:25:10.470 this late, we won't be taking any calls this 00:25:10.470 --> 00:25:12.890 evening, but if you do have a question, feel 00:25:12.890 --> 00:25:17.069 free to go to the Tapper forum at Dayton, or 00:25:17.069 --> 00:25:20.549 you can check out their website. That's satnogs 00:25:20.549 --> 00:25:27.390 .org. So Cory, how does someone get started being 00:25:27.390 --> 00:25:29.970 a ground station if somebody wants to do this? 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:35.279 Great. Good question. The answer is there are 00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:38.960 many ways. The nice thing about the design is 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:41.279 that from the very beginning it was designed 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:46.220 to be very modular in that there's no set defined 00:25:46.490 --> 00:25:49.670 way that a ground station should be set up. And 00:25:49.670 --> 00:25:53.309 the ground station that is designed and 3D printed 00:25:53.309 --> 00:25:57.809 is using standard libraries. So in Linux, it's 00:25:57.809 --> 00:26:02.470 using Hamlib, which can talk to any kind of rotor 00:26:02.470 --> 00:26:07.150 or any kind of radio that has PC control. So 00:26:07.150 --> 00:26:10.950 with that in mind, if somebody had an existing 00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:16.849 ASL rotor set up with their own a system at home 00:26:16.849 --> 00:26:20.529 and had no need to, let's say, 3D print a rotator, 00:26:21.250 --> 00:26:24.470 we could make use of that and the client could 00:26:24.470 --> 00:26:26.869 be installed and interfaced with the antennas 00:26:26.869 --> 00:26:31.630 that are up on the tower today. Or if you're 00:26:31.630 --> 00:26:34.250 starting from nothing and you have access to 00:26:34.250 --> 00:26:37.329 a 3D printer, then you could start printing out 00:26:37.329 --> 00:26:41.670 your own rotator. look for local hackerspace 00:26:41.670 --> 00:26:43.589 and see if they can help you with such a project. 00:26:44.809 --> 00:26:48.769 We are often asked about kits. I know I did Dayton 00:26:48.769 --> 00:26:54.230 last year and at the Maker Faire this past year, 00:26:54.690 --> 00:26:57.390 the kits were a really big thing and everyone 00:26:57.390 --> 00:27:01.569 wanted to build one for a kit. We don't have 00:27:01.569 --> 00:27:04.109 any kits right now. It's definitely something 00:27:04.109 --> 00:27:06.650 that may be in the future, but right now we're 00:27:06.650 --> 00:27:10.609 still working on getting the design really well 00:27:10.609 --> 00:27:14.930 honed. It's in its third iteration and we feel 00:27:14.930 --> 00:27:18.650 pretty good about this one. So getting a ground 00:27:18.650 --> 00:27:20.569 station and getting started with the ground station, 00:27:20.990 --> 00:27:25.250 if you have gear we could get a client installed 00:27:25.250 --> 00:27:28.529 and the latest version of our client that just 00:27:28.529 --> 00:27:31.630 was released last week supports hardware radios 00:27:31.630 --> 00:27:36.930 even. So I tested it against my Kenway TS2000 00:27:36.930 --> 00:27:43.140 with a fixed antenna outside as well. Or if you, 00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:45.579 like I said, if you want to make your own antennas, 00:27:45.700 --> 00:27:47.940 you want to make your own rotator, you're free 00:27:47.940 --> 00:27:50.680 to do that as well. We have designs linked from 00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:54.220 our website at satnogs .org. Okay, and yeah, 00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:56.680 tell us a little bit about what people will find 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.759 at the website and about that, how they can find 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:05.559 those resources. Yeah, definitely. We have multiple 00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:09.940 ways to get in touch with us and to reach out. 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.079 Like I said, the project itself is all open source 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:18.900 and right now github .com is a very popular place 00:28:18.900 --> 00:28:23.839 as a code repository. So all of our code is available 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.380 on GitHub and that's linked to from our website 00:28:27.380 --> 00:28:31.380 as well. So in terms of code for the client or 00:28:31.380 --> 00:28:35.839 even code to build the rotator, it's all there. 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:41.500 We do have documentation that we maintain as 00:28:41.500 --> 00:28:45.599 the core project, both for building the rotator 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.460 on the hardware side and for setting up the client 00:28:48.460 --> 00:28:51.980 on the software side. And those are linked to 00:28:51.980 --> 00:28:55.400 from the website too. We also have a wiki that 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.210 just started up. Like I said, there's no one 00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:02.670 set way in which we want to dictate how a ground 00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:06.130 station has to be set up. So we are looking to 00:29:06.130 --> 00:29:10.410 the community to contribute their tips and their 00:29:10.410 --> 00:29:13.930 tricks and various tweaks that they've made to 00:29:13.930 --> 00:29:17.029 their stations. And then we have a community 00:29:17.029 --> 00:29:19.869 link. And what this is is this is a web forum. 00:29:20.299 --> 00:29:23.819 Like you would commonly find on in many communities 00:29:23.819 --> 00:29:27.519 where we have various categories in the web forum 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:32.059 one devoted to hardware and the software and 00:29:32.059 --> 00:29:35.539 a web forum specifically for some some observation 00:29:35.539 --> 00:29:39.680 conversations, so if There we find an observation 00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:42.380 that is is of interest and want to discuss that 00:29:42.380 --> 00:29:45.819 we can do that there as well Great. So that website 00:29:45.819 --> 00:29:53.059 is sat nogs org. That's SAT N O G S dot org Sat 00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:56.359 nogs dot org and be sure to stop by there and 00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.460 there's some some pretty cool pictures too of 00:29:59.460 --> 00:30:04.200 some of these antennas and Some of the ground 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.539 stations that are out there Yeah, and we've got 00:30:06.539 --> 00:30:08.720 again and that's another category that we have 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.339 on the the community forums site is specifically 00:30:12.339 --> 00:30:16.640 for a picture gallery and Personally, one of 00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:19.539 the neatest things I think about about this project 00:30:19.539 --> 00:30:23.240 is is when you see, you know a random picture 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.380 of a ground station that a group is building, 00:30:27.380 --> 00:30:30.380 you know overseas somewhere in some country you 00:30:30.380 --> 00:30:32.119 didn't even know somebody was was attempting 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:35.180 this in and I think by now we're hitting most 00:30:35.180 --> 00:30:38.039 of the continents with ground stations. They're 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:42.079 being built. Okay, so let's say somebody doesn't 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.920 have the access to the 3D printer, doesn't have 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:50.500 the azimuth and elevation rotator. How does somebody 00:30:50.500 --> 00:30:54.519 get involved with this without really being a 00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:59.079 ground station? Great. We need lots of help outside 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:03.819 of ground stations. Given that this is an open 00:31:03.819 --> 00:31:07.200 source project and we are looking for code contributions 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.440 from people who have programming skills, so we're 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.240 definitely looking for programmers. The code 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.240 on both the network side and the client side 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:22.019 is all written in Python. So if you're good with 00:31:22.019 --> 00:31:24.539 Python and you don't have the resources for a 00:31:24.539 --> 00:31:26.259 ground station but still want to get involved, 00:31:26.619 --> 00:31:29.900 we can definitely use your help there. And going 00:31:29.900 --> 00:31:33.319 back to the software -defined radio aspect, we 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.369 want to... push the limits of software -defined 00:31:36.369 --> 00:31:39.269 radio in these ground stations with the newer 00:31:39.269 --> 00:31:42.650 modes that are going up in satellites today. 00:31:43.990 --> 00:31:47.529 They're downlinking in faster baud rates and 00:31:47.529 --> 00:31:51.309 newer experimental modes that require a lot of 00:31:51.309 --> 00:31:55.369 tweaks on the reception side to be able to demodulate 00:31:55.369 --> 00:31:58.089 and then decode these signals. So we're getting 00:31:58.089 --> 00:32:02.410 into a software package called GNU Radio, which 00:32:02.410 --> 00:32:07.450 then defines how that radio looks like in software. 00:32:08.509 --> 00:32:11.869 So people who are good with radio, good with 00:32:11.869 --> 00:32:15.329 RF, good with GNU radio, we're definitely looking 00:32:15.329 --> 00:32:20.470 for help there. Anybody who wants to just get 00:32:20.470 --> 00:32:23.250 involved and help with keeping satellite data 00:32:23.250 --> 00:32:27.230 up to date, that's another big need that we have. 00:32:27.710 --> 00:32:31.630 We've got a database that we've started that 00:32:31.630 --> 00:32:36.089 is One aspect of the project, but it's not Completely 00:32:36.089 --> 00:32:39.369 tied to the project is is just a general satellite 00:32:39.369 --> 00:32:44.930 database that DB sat nogs org and then there's 00:32:44.930 --> 00:32:47.529 a Programming hook into this where other people 00:32:47.529 --> 00:32:50.170 can make use of this data outside of sat nogs 00:32:50.170 --> 00:32:53.799 as well Cube sats are going up all of the time. 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:56.900 We just had three new CubeSats launched yesterday 00:32:56.900 --> 00:33:00.400 on amateur radio frequencies. And so keeping 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.839 the data up to date, keeping those frequencies 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.779 up to date and any changes in the status of those 00:33:07.779 --> 00:33:11.119 satellites is definitely a big community effort 00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.940 as well. And the nice thing about this whole 00:33:14.940 --> 00:33:19.529 network is that people Once you get involved, 00:33:20.109 --> 00:33:24.569 you can send commands to the network. You can 00:33:24.569 --> 00:33:27.730 specify a satellite and a time of day that you 00:33:27.730 --> 00:33:30.430 want to watch the satellite and look for observations. 00:33:30.769 --> 00:33:32.390 And then you can actually collect the data from 00:33:32.390 --> 00:33:35.410 other people's ground stations. So you don't 00:33:35.410 --> 00:33:38.230 necessarily have to have a ground station of 00:33:38.230 --> 00:33:41.779 your own. But we're looking for contributors 00:33:41.779 --> 00:33:44.980 all across the board. So hop on our forums, check 00:33:44.980 --> 00:33:47.480 out the websites. We also have a chat channel 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:52.339 on IRC on Freenode. It's pound sat knobs. We 00:33:52.339 --> 00:33:55.180 will love to hear from you in any way possible. 00:33:55.660 --> 00:33:58.900 All right. Well, that sounds like a major undertaking. 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:02.720 So I'm sure you can use some help. And this is 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.799 probably a never ending quest here. But what 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:13.500 is the status of things just right now? It does 00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:15.880 seem like a never -ending quest because ultimately 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.420 you would love to see hundreds of ground stations 00:34:19.420 --> 00:34:23.860 across the world and a network that is sending 00:34:23.860 --> 00:34:26.179 commands and keeping them busy day and night. 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.760 Right now it's still in heavy development phase. 00:34:31.420 --> 00:34:34.710 There is... There are a few ground stations that 00:34:34.710 --> 00:34:37.889 we have across the globe that are fully functional 00:34:37.889 --> 00:34:43.349 today, and even more that are in development 00:34:43.349 --> 00:34:47.989 and that are in testing on our dev site. So we 00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:50.829 have a couple of instances of the network software, 00:34:50.969 --> 00:34:53.550 one that we have for true production and one 00:34:53.550 --> 00:34:56.670 we have for testing and development. So we've 00:34:56.670 --> 00:34:59.429 got a lot more of the ground stations that are 00:34:59.429 --> 00:35:02.969 still in that kind of sandbox mode as we're testing 00:35:02.969 --> 00:35:07.349 things out. So what we're working on right now 00:35:07.349 --> 00:35:10.070 is fixing that software -defined radio piece 00:35:10.070 --> 00:35:14.469 in GNU Radio so that we can have better autonomy 00:35:14.469 --> 00:35:17.690 of collecting the data, not only demodulating 00:35:17.690 --> 00:35:19.949 it, but then taking that next step and actually 00:35:19.949 --> 00:35:22.429 decoding the data. So let's say it's a Morse 00:35:22.429 --> 00:35:27.190 code stream and it's sending telemetry, we've 00:35:27.190 --> 00:35:30.369 got a lot of observations collected from satellites 00:35:30.369 --> 00:35:33.849 that are just downlinking Morse code, and somebody 00:35:33.849 --> 00:35:36.670 can go on our website and actually listen to 00:35:36.670 --> 00:35:40.750 those streams and decode by hand, but we'd like 00:35:40.750 --> 00:35:44.269 to go to the next step and actually have a software 00:35:44.269 --> 00:35:48.449 that then decodes it, which is a little bit tricky 00:35:48.449 --> 00:35:52.989 given Doppler shift and not having a perfect 00:35:52.989 --> 00:35:57.460 Doppler shift. every millisecond. So taking that 00:35:57.460 --> 00:36:01.820 a step further, we also have plans of doing the 00:36:01.820 --> 00:36:05.900 same kind of thing for other data modes. AFSK 00:36:05.900 --> 00:36:10.619 is a very popular mode for satellites, 1200 baud. 00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:14.039 That's going to be the next one to hit on. And 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.780 then getting into the... Excuse me. the experimental 00:36:17.780 --> 00:36:20.940 modes and the faster baud rates. So as it is 00:36:20.940 --> 00:36:23.860 today, we do have some ground stations with more 00:36:23.860 --> 00:36:28.139 coming up here in the near future that can automatically 00:36:28.139 --> 00:36:32.579 capture observations from satellites. So that 00:36:32.579 --> 00:36:36.000 pool of resources is only going to grow over 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:40.619 time and the capabilities of what we can automatically 00:36:40.619 --> 00:36:43.739 demodulate and then automatically decode is growing 00:36:43.739 --> 00:36:46.969 as well. We have new code getting put into this 00:36:46.969 --> 00:36:53.849 project every week and I'm seeing commits every 00:36:53.849 --> 00:36:56.349 week getting caught up with the changes that 00:36:56.349 --> 00:36:58.989 are going into this. I know there are a lot of 00:36:58.989 --> 00:37:01.090 projects out there kind of like this and there 00:37:01.090 --> 00:37:04.869 have been in the past. I think one thing that 00:37:04.869 --> 00:37:08.389 really helps this project that I've seen is that 00:37:08.389 --> 00:37:11.309 there is a lot of community momentum behind the 00:37:11.309 --> 00:37:13.969 project so there are a lot of good things to 00:37:13.969 --> 00:37:17.489 come. That's great. I'm glad you were able to 00:37:17.489 --> 00:37:20.849 come on to the show and tell us all about this 00:37:20.849 --> 00:37:23.829 technology. And again, Corey's presenting at 00:37:23.829 --> 00:37:27.269 the Tapper Forum. That's on Friday morning of 00:37:27.269 --> 00:37:30.590 Hamvention in Forum Room 1. The forum starts 00:37:30.590 --> 00:37:34.429 at 9 .15 a .m. and Corey's first step, I believe, 00:37:34.510 --> 00:37:38.250 after the introduction. So about 9 .30, 9 .35 00:37:38.250 --> 00:37:42.670 a .m. will be the SatNog's presentation and then 00:37:42.670 --> 00:37:46.489 the demonstration will be in the North Hall in 00:37:46.489 --> 00:37:51.130 space 212 so if you can't get by the forum at 00:37:51.130 --> 00:37:53.650 least go by and check out the demo and you said 00:37:53.650 --> 00:37:57.650 you'll have the 3d printed rotator on display 00:37:57.650 --> 00:38:00.510 is that right yes we'll have it on display and 00:38:00.510 --> 00:38:03.289 depending on the booth layout you know we are 00:38:03.289 --> 00:38:06.349 limited by space we should have it moving as 00:38:06.349 --> 00:38:09.300 well now Um, you know, we would love to have 00:38:09.300 --> 00:38:12.539 it receiving signals as well, but, uh, you know, 00:38:12.579 --> 00:38:17.659 the, the Hara arena might not be so, uh, so forgiving 00:38:17.659 --> 00:38:20.099 in, in letting signals through the, the ceiling 00:38:20.099 --> 00:38:23.320 there. So, uh, we'll, we'll definitely try, but, 00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:27.159 uh, no promises in indoors there. Okay. So again, 00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.400 that's the North hall space two 12. And, uh, 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.380 Corey, thanks so much for joining us on the show 00:38:32.380 --> 00:38:35.460 tonight and good luck with your presentation. 00:38:35.849 --> 00:38:37.869 Thank you. Appreciate it. We'll see you then. 00:38:38.150 --> 00:38:41.730 Yeah, that's Corey Shields KB9GHU and that's 00:38:41.730 --> 00:38:45.110 a wrap for this week's edition of HamTalk Live. 00:38:45.150 --> 00:38:47.190 I'd like to thank Corey and all the listeners 00:38:47.190 --> 00:38:50.210 out there in cyberspace and invite you all back 00:38:50.210 --> 00:38:53.269 next Thursday night or actually it's this Thursday 00:38:53.269 --> 00:38:57.710 night this time at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. Carol 00:38:57.710 --> 00:39:02.829 Perry WB2MGP will be here to talk about the Instructor's 00:39:02.829 --> 00:39:05.719 Forum and the Youth Forum. to be held at this 00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.579 year's Dayton Hamvention. And if you haven't 00:39:08.579 --> 00:39:13.320 seen the Twitter post, you have a chance to win 00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:18.639 a big radio just for attending that forum. So 00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.340 we'll be talking about that on Thursday night 00:39:21.340 --> 00:39:24.440 live with Carole Perry. So for a list of all 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.500 of our upcoming guests, be sure to visit HamTalkLive 00:39:27.500 --> 00:39:31.469 .com. So, for now with Corey Shields, KB9GHU, 00:39:31.530 --> 00:39:35.929 this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 7 -5, 00:39:36.070 --> 00:40:11.019 and may the good DX be yours. Thanks for watching!