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Talk Live episode number 15. 2013 Young Ham of

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the Year, Patrick Lassendreux, KC9, UUS, recorded

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live on Thursday, May 26, 2016. I'm your host,

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Neil Rapp, WB9VBG. Thanks for tuning into this

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episode of Ham Talk Live. Tonight on the show,

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the 2013 amateur radio news line Young Ham of

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the Year. Patrick Lassendreau, KC9UUS stops by

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to talk about life since the award, including

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his internship at SpaceX, preparing a satellite

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at Cornell and his studies. And we'll take your

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calls live in just a few minutes. Last week on

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the show, we had a great time on the road trip

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to Dayton. Several people stopped by the Spring

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Hill Suites meeting room to hear the show broadcast

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live. And we were able to convince several to

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come on the show. We also checked in with some

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I'm home in Bloomington recovering from missing

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school for two days due to Hamvention and all

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the running around in Dayton. It was a very busy

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week. Contest University on Thursday was a great

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experience as always. as it was for some of my

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high school students that were able to go and

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my assistant sponsor for the school club doing

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the show on Thursday night. This show was very

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fun and thanks again to Ryan Cutshall, KD9DAB

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and his father Rex for helping out with the setup

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and greeting people and thanks to Nick Bauer,

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KC9GZY for managing all the calls that came in

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and making things run smoothly. Then Friday was

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the instructor's forum where the younger sister

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of tonight's guest spoke about getting more women

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into ham radio. And then Ryan helped me set up.

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He was able to operate W8D for the first time

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as a general. He got his upgrade and got to use

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the ICOM 7851, a full legal limit amplifier and

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a hex beam. Thanks to the support of so many

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manufacturers and dealers, ICOM, Yezu, Kenwood,

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Array Solutions, GigaParts, Radio Waves, and

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Heil Sound, just to name a few. Saturday was

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the Youth Forum, and I ended up on video recording

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duty this year for that. Maria was recognized

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there for her talk on Friday, and 11 young people

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shared their stories about ham radio. And then

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in the afternoon, I was able to get on W8D. and

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use the Kenwood TS -990 for an hour or so and

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try that out first time I ever got a chance to

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play with one of those. So that was a lot of

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fun and did a little bit of shopping and then

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stopped by the Voice of America Museum on the

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way home. They had a great turnout for that.

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So shout out to the Westchester Amateur Radio

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Club for putting that on. And then it was time

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to get home. throw everything in the house and

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start working on final exams and finish grading

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and I finally finished last night about 10 30.

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So after some rest, it'll be time to get ready

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for a transmitter hunt for the school. We'll

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be doing that next week and then field day will

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be coming up and some repeater work coming up

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that's long overdue now that I have some time

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to do it. So that's what's coming up. for me.

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Well three years ago Maria's brother Patrick

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was a speaker at the Youth Forum and there he

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shared about his de -expedition to Cyprus and

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after that presentation he was featured in QST.

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He authored an article, won the cover plaque

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award, won amateur radio news line, Young Ham

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of the Year award, the ARRL Goldfarb scholarship,

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and the ARRL Hiram Percy Maxim award. He graduated

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from Bloomington High School South and went to

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Cornell University to study physics and engineering.

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And he got involved with a satellite build there,

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which did involve the amateur radio club due

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to the telemetry that needed to be sent back.

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And he found himself interning during the summers

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with SpaceX. And so next, Patrick will join us

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Patrick Lassendreau KC9 UUS is a 19 year old

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and just finished his sophomore year at Cornell

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University. He has an extra class amateur radio

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license and has been a ham for about four and

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a half years. Uh, he's a former student of mine

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at Bloomington high school south, where he was

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president of the amateur radio club and very

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active in the solar racing program there. Patrick's

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entire family became hands. His mother, Carolyn

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KC9URR is the assistant sponsor of the Bloomington

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south club and is an avid DXer. This father,

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Plato is KC9VIL. And, um, we'd like to wish Plato

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a happy birthday today, by the way. Um, his older

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sister, Helena is KC9VIL. She is attending Purdue

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University studying biology and is doing a summer

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program in medicine at The Ohio State University

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this summer. And younger sister Maria is KD9BUS

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and she will be a senior next year at Bloomington

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High School South. Patrick is a past Hamvention

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Youth Forum speaker, leader of the Expedition

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to Cyprus, QST author, the winner of the ARRL

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Hiram Percy Maxim Award and the Goldfarb Scholarship,

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and the 2013 amateur radio news line Young Ham

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of the Year. Patrick's main interest has been

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making and inventing. He created his own electrical

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laboratory at home and started building. Now

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he's building even bigger and better things like

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satellites and projects for SpaceX. He just made

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it home from Cornell yesterday and leaves for

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his summer internship there in a few days. So

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we were lucky enough to squeeze in an interview

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while he's home. So, Patrick, welcome to HamTalk

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Live. Thank you very much, Mr. App. Yeah, so

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real quick before we get too deep into this,

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we want to wish Plato a happy birthday. He was

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with us this weekend. And so we want to do that.

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So, so go ahead and we'll get that in. Okay.

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So go ahead. All right. Yeah. So happy birthday

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to Plato. Beloved father, he's in the room next

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to me. I don't know if he can hear me, but we're

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going to have dinner tonight with him. So we're

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going to celebrate that. But yeah, so a whole

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family is a ham family. including the dad so

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yeah so I'm home for three days unfortunately

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I could not go to Dayton this year or last year

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finals are pretty much right after Dayton so

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just no way for me to go that's unfortunate I

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really miss it especially the flea market Um,

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but so yeah, that was unfortunate, but now I

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do understand that, uh, that after, um, we got

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done on, on Friday, your mom said I have to go

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take care of Padring shopping list. So you had,

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you, you sent your mom a shopping list for the

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flea market at Dayton. Yeah, I did. Um, well,

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I sent her a list of things to just look. So

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one of the biggest things for me was Michael

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Ostman of Great Scott Gadgets. I wanted her to

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go talk to him. He's got a really cool product,

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the HackRF. Basically a small software -defined

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radio with some really mad specs. Very, very

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cool board. Kind of expensive, but I'm looking

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for that as maybe a birthday or Christmas present.

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Definitely need to get into using GNU Radio and

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SDRs. I also asked her to go look at, see if

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they had any like photovoltaic cells, just for

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my own experimentation. I think a couple other

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parts I couldn't, I can't really remember. But

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yeah, I always give her a list. It's very hard

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to find a specific thing at the Hamvention, but

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it's always, you know, it's worth the look so.

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Well, what they always say about Hamvention is

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if you can't find it at Dayton, it doesn't exist.

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And that's probably true. Well, I'm glad, uh,

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glad she was able to take care of some of that,

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uh, in your absence. So, um, tell us about, um,

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the news line young ham of the year award and

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how, uh, that has impacted what you do and what

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that's meant to you. Absolutely. The Young Ham

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of the Year Award was given to me in 2013 in

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Huntsville, Alabama at the Huntsville Ham Fest,

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which is also a great ham fest for flea market.

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It's a wonderful award. It really promotes technology

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and youth. I felt very supported by that award.

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I'm very grateful for it. And one of the greatest

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outcomes from that is just networking in general.

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I met a lot of really nice and cool people. So

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Don Wildbanks, I met him out of that. I also

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met Scott Wright out of that. I met a ton of

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really great hands. Emmet Hohenzie of Radio Waves.

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Uh, I met a, you know, a ton of really great

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people and there's just so many names I'm not

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listing. Um, I can't think of at the moment,

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but that, I mean, that's definitely one of the

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greatest outcomes. Um, and you know, it's an

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amazing award that they really, they really do

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support, um, uh, young amateurs, um, and their

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journey into the technology world. So, um, yeah,

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I mean, it's a great thing. And the nominating

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period is open now until, um, June 30th, so arnewsline

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.org is the web address and click on the Y -H

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-O -T -Y tab or as I like to call it the Yehody

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tab. Don and I had a show we talked about the

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Yehody thing and we talked about TLAs too, which

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you're the one who introduced me to the TLA.

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Yeah, so the TLAs, the engineering world is full

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of TLAs and FLAs, which are three -letter acronyms

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and four -letter acronyms. And that's just an

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acronym for acronyms. And that was another friend

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of mine at Cornell actually told me that. But

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yeah, we love using that just as a joke, but

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yeah. So Yehudi is a five -letter acronym. It's

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even better. So anyway, that's there. So that's

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one of the reasons we have Patrick on tonight

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is is to promote that award. So Get your nominations

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in again AR newsline org and click on the hoodie

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tab. So Tell us about what you've been doing

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with the amateur radio club at Cornell and How

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you got involved with violet? the satellite and

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your part in building that. Absolutely. So my

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involvement of those two programs were actually

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totally separate at the beginning. It was the

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W2CXM Amateur Radio Club of Cornell, one of the

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oldest clubs. I think it's 101 years old right

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now. It used to be, or it was for a very long

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time, a graduate student club. And the advisor

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for it asked me to sort of go through the process

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of making it an undergraduate club, because there's

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a lot of interest from undergraduate students.

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So that was one of the big goals I had for freshman

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year. And so I did that. And that was a number

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of undergraduate members. And then a separate

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thing that I joined was the Space Systems Design

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Studio. And I joined Project Violet, which is

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a nano satellite, so approximately 0 .5 meters

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cubed. So significantly larger than your normal

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CubeSat. And we couldn't use any CubeSat hardware,

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which is significantly cheaper than pretty much

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any other satellite hardware you could get. So

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all of the PCBs are in -house. So we do have

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a couple COTS components. But primarily, COTS

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is a four -letter acronym. It means commercial

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off the shelf. And so we have a couple of components,

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like a gyroscope that we use, a magnetometer,

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and then the spectrometer, which is why it's

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actually called Violet. We wanted to look at

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the upper Earth atmosphere, basically viewing

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the sun through the top layer of our atmosphere.

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But the primary goal of Violet was to be a technology

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demonstration of these new sort of miniaturized

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actuators called control moment gyroscopes. So

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they're basically just The International Space

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Station uses these as well as a couple other

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telescope satellites. But that's the primary

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goal is to demonstrate those as well as the algorithms,

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the steering algorithms. So that's attitude control

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systems mission, pretty much. And so basically

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what we do is just slew the satellite in our,

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in low Earth orbit and demonstrate these steering

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laws, their efficiencies, and then get the data

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down to ground. So that's the basis of Violet.

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And so I joined Violet as the lead of telemetry

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and command. So basically I had to deal with

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all RF communication, all the radio communication.

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And so I sort of joined those two clubs, WCXM

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and Violet, in an effort to get a ground station,

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a satellite ground station developed. So that

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happened. So now we have a wonderful azimuth

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elevation rotator system on the top of Barton

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Hall. on Cornell campus. We also have all of

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the peripheral equipment that would be required,

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so we do all the satellite com through a TS -2000.

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But I've been remaining kind of hands -off on

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that part. I gave the ground station lead his

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responsibilities, let him do all that stuff.

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And so this semester I sort of moved on from

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my telemetry and command position. I've been

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doing a lot of power work and other electronics

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debugging. I'm really a huge electronics guy

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in general, so I wanted to sort of get some more

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experience with other stuff like a custom PCB

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fab debugging and just in general the electronics

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that might go in a satellite. So this semester

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I worked a lot on the photovoltaic system, charging

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system, state of charge algorithm. inhibit system,

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which pretty much means when we want to turn

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on the satellite, use these lodging relays. And

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a bunch of other power systems. That's been my

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main focus for the last two semesters. I've also

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been doing a ton of telemetry, so a lot of the

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RF stuff was sort of finished and good when I

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came in, but there were a lot of packet structure

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issues, so I worked on a lot of debugging with

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that. A lot of CRC problems, checksum, like whenever

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you send a packet, you need to basically do a

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checksum or just check that the packet is real

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and okay. So I did a lot of that debugging. But

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I've been kind of hopping around subsystems.

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So our team is made of like 11 different subsystems.

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So we know structures, CDH, which is command

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and data handling, attitude control, power. TNC

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telemetry and command and a couple other ones

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and So most of my work has been on power telemetry

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command and I've just recently gotten really

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into attitude control systems And that's sort

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of my new my new obsession right now in terms

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of electronics is is control systems But yeah,

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I'm really in love with spacecraft and so I found

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a great way to kind of connect those two amateur

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radio and spacecraft and so now I'm just sort

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of taken off, if you will, and sort of exploring

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the whole realm of technology and space. And

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it's really a beautiful thing. And I think that

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there's going to be a huge explosion of sort

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of space exploration in the next couple years.

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Everything's getting cheaper now, as you might

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see with launch vehicles, and especially the

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Falcon 9, being able to be returned. That pretty

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much lobs off $30 million straight off the launch

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cost. And that's a pretty astounding thing. So

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I think more youngsters that are into ham radio

00:22:51.869 --> 00:22:54.809
will have the chance to get into space just since

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it's getting cheaper and cheaper. And a lot of

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schools are doing CubeSat programs now, and a

00:23:00.730 --> 00:23:03.609
lot of space competitions, they're hosting them.

00:23:04.470 --> 00:23:07.369
So if anybody's interested, they can email me

00:23:07.369 --> 00:23:10.349
and see. Uh, I don't know, just ask about opportunities,

00:23:10.849 --> 00:23:13.890
but, um, yeah, certainly space has been kind

00:23:13.890 --> 00:23:18.170
of my biggest or my, my highest obsession. Um,

00:23:18.349 --> 00:23:21.410
that leads us right into the next thing. So,

00:23:21.650 --> 00:23:24.509
uh, last summer you were able to land an internship

00:23:24.509 --> 00:23:29.450
with, uh, SpaceX and, um, I actually got to visit

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you for a short time down there at Cape Canaveral.

00:23:31.970 --> 00:23:34.170
So tell us a little bit about, uh, what you did

00:23:34.170 --> 00:23:37.549
down at Cape Canaveral and then. what you're

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getting ready to do here in a few days for this

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summer? Certainly. So with all the work that

00:23:45.390 --> 00:23:49.529
I sort of did on Violet, I sort of grabbed attention

00:23:49.529 --> 00:23:54.569
of a recruiter and landed an interview. And so

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the first interview actually was in headquarters

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and it was for a co -op, which means I had to

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take off a semester. And I ended up just turning

00:24:01.049 --> 00:24:04.130
that down because I was unable to do that early

00:24:04.130 --> 00:24:07.509
on in my education. I did a second interview

00:24:07.509 --> 00:24:09.190
for Cape Canaveral, and that's one of their other

00:24:09.190 --> 00:24:12.289
sites, which of course they do most of their

00:24:12.289 --> 00:24:15.450
launches from. They have one launch site in Vandenberg,

00:24:15.849 --> 00:24:19.809
but primarily SLC 40, Space Launch Complex 40

00:24:19.809 --> 00:24:24.069
in Cape Canaveral. And so I got hired as a launch

00:24:24.069 --> 00:24:30.970
intern among 17 other kids, and my more specific

00:24:30.970 --> 00:24:35.109
job was instrumentation and range interns. So

00:24:35.109 --> 00:24:37.990
I pretty much worked on a lot of the instrumentation,

00:24:38.809 --> 00:24:42.150
all the electronics underneath the bay. I actually

00:24:42.150 --> 00:24:46.890
worked on SLC -39A, which is complex 39A, which

00:24:46.890 --> 00:24:51.250
is where all the Apollo missions launched from

00:24:51.250 --> 00:24:53.410
and roughly half of the shuttle missions launched

00:24:53.410 --> 00:24:56.430
from. NASA just leased it to SpaceX for their

00:24:56.430 --> 00:24:59.910
new Falcon Heavy vehicle. The launch pad will

00:24:59.910 --> 00:25:04.079
also launch Falcon 9s, but it was primarily developed

00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:07.079
for Falcon Heavy. So I worked on a lot of the

00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:09.819
electronic systems down there, a couple different

00:25:09.819 --> 00:25:13.700
RF systems, but yeah, a lot of data acquisition,

00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.339
instrumentation, stuff like that. And I had a

00:25:17.339 --> 00:25:21.259
specific project I worked on, which was really,

00:25:21.259 --> 00:25:24.240
really fun. I won't talk too much about it, might

00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.140
be a little boring for you. But it was really

00:25:27.140 --> 00:25:29.680
great working there. I had a lot of one -on -one

00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:34.599
time with my boss, who's a manager of electrical

00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:38.220
engineering on the pad. A really great guy. And

00:25:38.220 --> 00:25:40.920
the people there are just really passionate and

00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.859
really knowledgeable. So that was an incredibly

00:25:43.859 --> 00:25:47.579
fun internship. I got to drive around the Air

00:25:47.579 --> 00:25:50.119
Force base all day. I got to look at other launch

00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:54.400
pads. I got to watch rocket launches. And so

00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.920
it was a great experience. Very, very fun summer.

00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.220
And picked up surfing. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:26:01.900 --> 00:26:05.059
Yeah. A lot of a lot of people there go surfing.

00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:08.839
And so I just sort of hopped on. I got a I rented

00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:13.200
a board for a while. Incredibly fun. But I was

00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:15.299
surfing on Cocoa Beach, which is sort of the

00:26:15.299 --> 00:26:18.980
best place if you want a shark bite. And so there

00:26:18.980 --> 00:26:22.660
were I had a couple of experiences where I would

00:26:22.660 --> 00:26:24.880
see sharks just a couple feet away from me. Uh,

00:26:24.940 --> 00:26:27.460
one time I had a little, a baby shark, uh, hit

00:26:27.460 --> 00:26:30.779
me in the leg, just swam right into me. Uh, but

00:26:30.779 --> 00:26:32.500
you know, it was a, it was a really great experience.

00:26:32.660 --> 00:26:35.079
A lot of fun surfing, totally recommend. Great,

00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:38.240
great, great way to get out there. So. All right.

00:26:38.299 --> 00:26:40.819
Well, now you're on the way to the other end

00:26:40.819 --> 00:26:43.700
of the continent. So tell us what's, what's coming

00:26:43.700 --> 00:26:48.390
up this summer. Absolutely. So, um, I was in

00:26:48.390 --> 00:26:50.990
Cape Canaveral last summer, and this summer I

00:26:50.990 --> 00:26:54.990
interviewed and got a position in Hawthorne,

00:26:54.990 --> 00:26:59.470
California, which is basically right outside

00:26:59.470 --> 00:27:03.369
Los Angeles. It's the headquarters of SpaceX,

00:27:03.569 --> 00:27:07.730
and so I will be working as an avionics intern

00:27:07.730 --> 00:27:12.490
on Dragon. Dragon is the spacecraft that goes

00:27:12.490 --> 00:27:15.390
on top of the Falcon 9. It does all of the CRS,

00:27:15.490 --> 00:27:18.819
the cargo resupply missions. to the International

00:27:18.819 --> 00:27:25.259
Space Station and in 2017 and 2018 that the Dragon

00:27:25.259 --> 00:27:28.680
capsule will be flying our astronauts, our very

00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:30.640
own astronauts. We don't have to use the Russians

00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.980
anymore for that and so there's a great deal

00:27:33.980 --> 00:27:37.440
of patriotism there and so I'm very excited to

00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.839
be working on that. I can't really give any more

00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:42.859
specifics mostly because I don't really have

00:27:42.859 --> 00:27:46.539
any more specifics myself but as far as I know

00:27:46.539 --> 00:27:49.880
right now avionics and the dragon vehicle so

00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.200
I'm incredibly excited I've never been to California

00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:54.880
before hopefully I'll get some more surfing in

00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:58.099
maybe get a little sun but it should be a fun

00:27:58.099 --> 00:28:00.740
summer should be a very fun one well it sounds

00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:04.140
like a great opportunity for you and I couldn't

00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:07.759
be more proud that you're able to do that hey

00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.119
it's time for us to take our final break but

00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:12.579
we'll be back with more with Patrick Lassendreau

00:28:12.579 --> 00:28:16.720
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00:29:50.210 --> 00:29:53.829
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00:29:53.829 --> 00:29:56.029
see here that we've had a couple of people trying

00:29:56.029 --> 00:29:59.410
to call. So now's the time. So give us a call.

00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.500
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00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:11.420
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00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:14.559
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00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:21.519
here with Patrick Lassendre KC9 UUS and we'll

00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.920
wait just a second here I saw that there was

00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:28.450
a Dexter Moore I believe that was calling So

00:30:28.450 --> 00:30:31.950
hopefully he'll give us a call back here. We

00:30:31.950 --> 00:30:34.029
couldn't do that in the middle of the show. Yep,

00:30:34.069 --> 00:30:38.029
there he is. So we'll connect with Dexter here.

00:30:38.049 --> 00:30:48.329
How are you? Are you there? Good. Thank you for

00:30:48.329 --> 00:30:56.650
giving us call. On the live feed is very low.

00:30:58.109 --> 00:31:02.410
Yes, I'm here your audio on the live feed was

00:31:02.410 --> 00:31:09.450
very low Yeah, Patrick Patrick was fine your

00:31:09.450 --> 00:31:14.730
audio was low Well, okay Looks okay on this end.

00:31:14.730 --> 00:31:17.809
So I will dig around and try to find what's going

00:31:17.809 --> 00:31:21.690
on with that I don't see anything here, but we'll

00:31:21.690 --> 00:31:25.269
give it a try. Did you have a question for for

00:31:25.269 --> 00:31:30.000
Patrick? No, I didn't. Just letting you know.

00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:32.819
Oh, okay. Very good. Well, thanks for letting

00:31:32.819 --> 00:31:36.119
me know. I'll check into that and see what's

00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:42.000
going on with that. Thank you very much. Well,

00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.599
thank you. I'm going to send off now. All right,

00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:52.039
take care. 812 Natham 1. 812 Natham 1 or 812

00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.890
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00:31:56.890 --> 00:32:01.130
us at HamTalk Live and we'll see if we get another

00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:09.009
call here. Let's see here. Oh, we have a message

00:32:09.009 --> 00:32:13.009
here from Troy. You remember Troy from Illinois?

00:32:13.130 --> 00:32:16.289
Good to hear you, he says. Troy Simpson over

00:32:16.289 --> 00:32:21.369
at Glenn Raymond School over in Illinois. Patrick,

00:32:21.789 --> 00:32:26.799
what would you tell aspiring young hams out there

00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:30.380
that are working on, you know, still finishing

00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:34.480
up middle school, high school, maybe even elementary

00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:40.900
school. What would you say to those hams that

00:32:40.900 --> 00:32:46.039
are looking to study more beyond high school?

00:32:47.779 --> 00:32:52.220
All right, so definitely, you know, go and get

00:32:52.220 --> 00:32:55.099
your license. try and go as high as possible.

00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:59.000
I think that sort of will bring you as much knowledge,

00:32:59.059 --> 00:33:00.740
especially if you're passionate about the hobby.

00:33:01.259 --> 00:33:04.539
I would also definitely study electronics on

00:33:04.539 --> 00:33:08.759
your own time because, you know, hand radio is

00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.299
inherently tied to electronics. Everything is

00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:17.720
electrical. It's, you know, based purely on,

00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:23.130
you know, LCs and... I would just study electronics

00:33:23.130 --> 00:33:27.309
and even start building. A great book, a great

00:33:27.309 --> 00:33:30.130
couple of series of books that got me into the

00:33:30.130 --> 00:33:33.529
hobby were the Forrest Mims engineered notebooks.

00:33:34.130 --> 00:33:38.710
They have tons of examples of 555 circuits and

00:33:38.710 --> 00:33:41.970
op -amp circuits that really teach you the basics

00:33:41.970 --> 00:33:46.970
of electronics. You know in analog circuitry,

00:33:47.230 --> 00:33:50.549
so I would you know get passionate about it What

00:33:50.549 --> 00:33:53.009
maybe watch some YouTube videos of people in

00:33:53.009 --> 00:33:56.470
their homebrew projects? That's definitely something

00:33:56.470 --> 00:33:59.670
that motivated me is like watching people Kind

00:33:59.670 --> 00:34:01.930
of build something from nothing and then have

00:34:01.930 --> 00:34:05.509
it You know work and do a really cool thing so

00:34:05.509 --> 00:34:08.510
building a transmitter is amazing You know you

00:34:08.510 --> 00:34:11.590
you just have like this pile of of like carbon

00:34:11.590 --> 00:34:15.320
and silicon And then you solder it together and

00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.500
you end up creating something that can talk to

00:34:17.500 --> 00:34:19.099
somebody halfway across the world. I mean, that's

00:34:19.099 --> 00:34:21.880
amazing. And you really don't feel that until

00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.460
you've sort of done it. And so until you've built

00:34:25.460 --> 00:34:27.179
it. And once you've built it, it's kind of the

00:34:27.179 --> 00:34:28.980
most amazing feeling. I think there's a great

00:34:28.980 --> 00:34:31.860
Nikola Tesla quote that says there's nothing

00:34:31.860 --> 00:34:34.300
greater than the feeling that or there's nothing

00:34:34.300 --> 00:34:37.519
greater than the inventor who sees a creation

00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:41.360
of their mind come to be. I'm super paraphrasing,

00:34:41.380 --> 00:34:45.739
but. Look that quote up to just you know the

00:34:45.739 --> 00:34:49.840
internet is a great A great resource pretty much

00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:51.599
everything you could possibly want to learn is

00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:55.139
on the internet And so that's what I would say

00:34:55.139 --> 00:34:57.980
is just kind of teach yourself. I mean if you're

00:34:57.980 --> 00:35:00.179
passionate about something There's there should

00:35:00.179 --> 00:35:02.260
be no barriers there for you, and you should

00:35:02.260 --> 00:35:06.179
try and break them down And so that's you know

00:35:06.179 --> 00:35:09.039
that's what I did in high school is I sort of

00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.539
Asked for a soldering iron for my birthday I

00:35:12.539 --> 00:35:15.460
got that and I started taking apart stuff. Just

00:35:15.460 --> 00:35:18.760
even televisions, old cathode ray tube stuff.

00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:20.860
You've got to be really careful because sometimes

00:35:20.860 --> 00:35:24.079
they have some capacitance that will shock you.

00:35:24.539 --> 00:35:28.119
But take apart stuff safely and then use those

00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.920
parts in like the TV or the microwave or whatever

00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.840
it might be to build a project and then just

00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.039
build one thing and then you'll really realize

00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:41.019
how cool it is. But beyond that, I mean, you

00:35:41.019 --> 00:35:43.250
know. I guess try to educate yourself as much

00:35:43.250 --> 00:35:45.469
as possible. And it's great, you know, go to

00:35:45.469 --> 00:35:48.630
a school, you know, to learn just at college

00:35:48.630 --> 00:35:52.030
or a couple year program. Definitely teach you

00:35:52.030 --> 00:35:55.570
a ton. And I think understanding and being able

00:35:55.570 --> 00:35:58.170
to build and design electronics is an incredibly

00:35:58.170 --> 00:36:02.650
valuable tool. And we see that its value is skyrocketing

00:36:02.650 --> 00:36:07.469
as time goes on. So. Do you have an opportunity

00:36:07.469 --> 00:36:13.050
to go to several summer programs that Had some

00:36:13.050 --> 00:36:18.550
pretty cool science to them. Oh Yeah, so there's

00:36:18.550 --> 00:36:22.269
a ton of there are a ton of summer programs that

00:36:22.269 --> 00:36:24.710
are totally free So I'm gonna give a shout out

00:36:24.710 --> 00:36:26.670
to the people at Michigan State University There's

00:36:26.670 --> 00:36:29.690
a physics of atomic nuclei pan program. Look

00:36:29.690 --> 00:36:32.449
it up totally free program You basically will

00:36:32.449 --> 00:36:35.550
learn about atomic nuclei and the nucleosynthesis.

00:36:35.550 --> 00:36:41.519
So pretty much how a star will generate nuclei

00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.719
up to iron. And then once it explodes, there's

00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:47.000
enough activation energy to create other nuclei.

00:36:47.659 --> 00:36:50.300
It's a great program that teaches kids a lot

00:36:50.300 --> 00:36:53.619
about physics. And in the process, you learn

00:36:53.619 --> 00:36:55.679
a little bit about programming and other stuff

00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.739
totally free week at Michigan State University.

00:37:00.260 --> 00:37:03.679
Great programs like that will push you into the

00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:07.869
STEM fields. And so I, there's a couple other

00:37:07.869 --> 00:37:11.070
stuff. Uh, I did a program at like Brown university

00:37:11.070 --> 00:37:14.389
on Nikola Tesla. I'm kind of have a thing. He's

00:37:14.389 --> 00:37:17.869
a, he's one of my favorite, um, scientists. Um,

00:37:17.909 --> 00:37:19.510
but this, you know, plenty of is a, you know,

00:37:19.590 --> 00:37:21.469
a plethora of programs that you can look into

00:37:21.469 --> 00:37:23.929
that are, you know, free and highly educational

00:37:23.929 --> 00:37:26.090
and just great things to do. So I would look

00:37:26.090 --> 00:37:28.989
into those. And did you see the Tesla bumper

00:37:28.989 --> 00:37:33.400
stickers from, from Hamvention? Yes, Maria just

00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:36.079
gave me one. It's a yellow bumper sticker. I

00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:40.260
think it's ICOM from ICOM. It has his face, Nikola

00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:44.380
Tesla's face, and it says Tesla was right. I

00:37:44.380 --> 00:37:49.019
assume alternating current. But yeah, wonderful,

00:37:49.019 --> 00:37:59.019
wonderful stickers. A question about the Young

00:37:59.019 --> 00:38:02.440
Ham of the Year Award or any of these things

00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.940
that Patrick's talking about or SpaceX and his

00:38:06.940 --> 00:38:09.460
internship there, why give us a call? We've got

00:38:09.460 --> 00:38:13.840
just time for maybe one call. So if you want

00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.559
to get that in, now's the time to do that. 812

00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:23.960
-NATAM -1 or Skype HamTalk Live. So tell us just

00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:29.389
quickly about your classes. How are classes going

00:38:29.389 --> 00:38:32.929
for you and how's Ham Radio helped you out in

00:38:32.929 --> 00:38:38.510
those? Certainly. So this semester I took a couple

00:38:38.510 --> 00:38:41.449
electrical engineering classes, one of them being

00:38:41.449 --> 00:38:43.670
Introduction to Circuits and the other being

00:38:43.670 --> 00:38:47.230
Introduction to Digital Logic. So Introduction

00:38:47.230 --> 00:38:51.130
to Circuits was sort of just, I don't want to

00:38:51.130 --> 00:38:52.829
be like mean or anything, but it was kind of

00:38:52.829 --> 00:38:57.650
a cakewalk. And so definitely learning All of

00:38:57.650 --> 00:39:00.829
the material that leads up to the extra class

00:39:00.829 --> 00:39:03.829
significantly helped. And if you know a little

00:39:03.829 --> 00:39:06.030
bit about math, you can understand Laplace transforms.

00:39:07.650 --> 00:39:10.289
And Laplace transforms are incredibly valuable

00:39:10.289 --> 00:39:13.730
when it comes into circuit analysis, and especially

00:39:13.730 --> 00:39:17.130
sinusoidal circuit, steady state analysis. So

00:39:17.130 --> 00:39:20.469
that was a fun class. Ham Radio has certainly

00:39:20.469 --> 00:39:23.159
helped me with that one. I really... did not

00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.340
struggle with that at all. Digital logic, that's

00:39:26.340 --> 00:39:29.719
sort of more, you know, computer architecture

00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:34.519
stuff. I didn't get a whole lot of exposure to

00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:36.679
that from ham radio. Obviously I knew all the

00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.619
gates, I knew how they all work. I understood

00:39:39.619 --> 00:39:42.440
like sort of the basic of flip -flops, a little

00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.980
bit of memory, stuff like that. But there's a

00:39:45.980 --> 00:39:49.280
lot of stuff that I didn't know, like, you know,

00:39:49.579 --> 00:39:54.079
doing... time analysis, CPI, like cycles per

00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.880
instruction, ALUs, I didn't really know anything

00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.320
about that, and in general, like the computer

00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:03.119
architecture of a processor. Didn't know too

00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.860
much, but Hammer Day still helped out with the

00:40:05.860 --> 00:40:08.420
sort of basics of that class, you know, inverters

00:40:08.420 --> 00:40:13.480
and NAND gates, all that sort of stuff. And so,

00:40:13.739 --> 00:40:18.260
next semester, I will be taking signals. ECE

00:40:18.260 --> 00:40:21.219
class. ECE is the program at Cornell. It's at

00:40:21.219 --> 00:40:24.000
electrical and computer engineering. And I'll

00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.639
be also taking an ECE design class, which pretty

00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.639
much needs to design a line following robot that

00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:36.179
utilizes an FPGA, which is a field programmable

00:40:36.179 --> 00:40:38.480
gate array, which is definitely something I would

00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.559
advise youngsters to get into. It's an incredible

00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.260
technology, as well as microcontroller architecture.

00:40:45.190 --> 00:40:47.550
And one of my friends actually included sort

00:40:47.550 --> 00:40:50.670
of an RF chipset in that as well. So that'll

00:40:50.670 --> 00:40:52.769
be a fun class. I'll get to just really do a

00:40:52.769 --> 00:40:56.170
lot of design work, be creative. I'll also be

00:40:56.170 --> 00:40:59.730
taking a couple mechanical and airspace engineering

00:40:59.730 --> 00:41:03.369
classes, one of them being Introduction to Spaceflight

00:41:03.369 --> 00:41:05.829
Mechanics, which will be really cool. It's basically

00:41:05.829 --> 00:41:09.130
celestial mechanics, understanding orbits, Hohmann

00:41:09.130 --> 00:41:11.809
transfers, and different things like that. And

00:41:11.809 --> 00:41:13.750
then I'm also taking something that I'm really

00:41:13.750 --> 00:41:17.429
excited about called feedback control methods.

00:41:18.269 --> 00:41:21.010
And so that sort of dials into my my interest

00:41:21.010 --> 00:41:25.869
in attitude control and guidance. So for spacecraft,

00:41:26.110 --> 00:41:29.329
basically that it is an intellectual engineering

00:41:29.329 --> 00:41:33.510
class. It sort of teaches you how to build controllers

00:41:33.510 --> 00:41:36.829
with with feedback mechanisms. And so you can

00:41:36.829 --> 00:41:39.630
use like op amps to build PID controllers, which

00:41:39.630 --> 00:41:42.500
is proportional and integral derivative controller.

00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.039
And so I would also advise kids to get into that

00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:47.719
kind of stuff, because that's really cool. That

00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:50.599
goes into robotics. That goes into pretty much

00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.940
everything in the future. So that's going to

00:41:53.940 --> 00:41:56.719
be a really, really fun class. And I'm excited

00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.739
for that. And then, of course, there'll be cooler

00:41:59.739 --> 00:42:01.699
classes in the future beyond that. But that's

00:42:01.699 --> 00:42:05.019
what I have for now. Well Patrick, thank you

00:42:05.019 --> 00:42:08.480
so much for sharing everything and telling us

00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.860
getting us caught up on what you've been up to

00:42:11.860 --> 00:42:15.880
and how ham radio ties into all that and Thanks

00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.380
for taking some time out of your few days off

00:42:19.380 --> 00:42:23.320
here between school and work to To let everybody

00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:25.920
know about it Certainly. Thanks for having me

00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:28.820
on mr. Epp All right. Thank you. That's Patrick

00:42:28.820 --> 00:42:32.699
Lassandra KC9 UUS the 2013 amateur radio news

00:42:32.699 --> 00:42:38.400
line Young Ham of the Year, among other awards

00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:42.280
and recognitions. Thanks so much for being here,

00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.980
and that's a wrap for this week's HamTalk Live.

00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.300
I'd like to thank my guest Patrick and all the

00:42:48.300 --> 00:42:50.579
callers and listeners out there in cyberspace,

00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.760
and I invite you all back next Thursday night

00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:58.429
at 9 p .m. Eastern when Joe Eisenberg, K0NEB,

00:42:58.610 --> 00:43:01.250
will be here. He's the kit guy, and he'll be

00:43:01.250 --> 00:43:03.829
here to catch us up on what's going on in kit

00:43:03.829 --> 00:43:06.610
building. And for a list of all of our upcoming

00:43:06.610 --> 00:43:10.690
guests, visit HamTalkLive .com. So for now, this

00:43:10.690 --> 00:43:15.750
is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7375, and may the

00:43:15.750 --> 00:43:37.820
good DX be yours. Thanks for watching!
