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websites. Karen Eve Murray, KD2GUT's writer at
Amateur Radio Newsline, Amateur Radio's first
independent news and bulletin service. Karen
began an interest in amateur radio at age 12,
but waited until 2014 to take the test and officially
become a ham. She quickly earned a general -class
license and she's taken over the editing duties
at Newsline after the passing of its founder
Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF. Karen has spent most
of her career working in print, but also had
a brief stint in radio. She moved to New York
City to write for New York Newsday until its
end. in 1995 and then she transferred to Newsday's
Long Island edition where she edits copy for
the Daily Paper as well as its website. She is
a member of the Great South Bay Amateur Radio
Club where she is one of the editors for its
monthly newsletter. Besides news and ham radio,
Karen's other passion is wildlife rehabilitation
and her specialty, well it's squirrels. So Karen's
all about the squirrels. She also has a horse
and she enjoys horse riding. And so we may talk
about that a little bit too if we have some time
here at the end. Karen, thanks for taking time
out of your work break tonight to be on HamTalk
Live. Thank you so much, Neil. Actually, it's
good to take a break. from work and what's even
better than taking a break from work is taking
a break from work and playing radio. So I'm very
happy to be here tonight. Yeah. One of the things
we often talk about is how our jobs get in the
way of ham radio. You know, we need, we need
the ham radio 24 seven and it just gets in the
way. Yes, it does. It does. I keep telling myself
the job. pays for the ham radio, um, and the
job makes the ham radio possible. And in this
case, what's really nice is the job actually
is part of the reason I'm with amateur radio
newsline now, because I was able to bring my
newspaper skills to the table in order to really
come back to radio. So it's all good. Yup. It's
worked out really well. And, um, We've had Don
on the show to tell us a little bit about the
changes that's happened at Newsline in the last
year or so. And we've heard his side of the story
of how you ended up, you know, taking over Bill
Pasternak's position with Newsline. But let's
hear it from your perspective. How did you come
into that? Well, at the time I found out that
there was a need for somebody, Bill was still
alive. I believe if memory serves me, what was
happening is Bill was definitely quite ill and
needed an assistant, someone who could pick up
the slack and move the news line ahead while
he... covered while he got his strength back.
And I may have seen on, I think it was on Facebook,
a posting looking for people. And it's like,
hey, I haven't written for radio in ages. I really
haven't. But radio has always been my first love.
And so I sent a note off. At that point, it was
to Skeeter, Skeeter Nash, one of our anchors
and correspondents. Wrote him and waited a week
waited another week But in the interim while
I was waiting Bill unfortunately passed away
and I just decided to sit tight. I wasn't sure
what was going to be happening they Got back
in touch with me. I think after a period of time
both Skeeter and on Conted me and indicated that
Bill had actually seen my resume in my note and
really signed off on bringing me on board Which
is about as close as I will ever get to knowing
Bill Pasternak but it's nice to know at least
he you know, he kind of tapped me for this and
that it's With his blessing that we were able
to go forward after his Death and we started
up midsummer. I think it was sometime in July
and we've been cranking ever since Yes Very good.
Well, yeah bill bill put a lot into getting everything
started and keeping everything going and we're
so glad that you've been able to to pick up just
at the nick of time to To take that over. So
speaking of bill Tell us about this week's edition
of Amich Radio Newsline that's going to be coming
out tomorrow. I understand there's a special
about Bill. Yes, I am so glad. The timing on
this, Neil, could not be better. I'm so glad
you asked about that. We are especially proud
of this week's newscast. because in addition
to our two segments, which are strong news segments,
and we try to bring variety every week. We try
to bring some harder -edged news. We try to bring
some lighter features. We announce a couple of
things that are happening. We have news of BXing
and legislation and whatever else is out there
circulating. In the news and before we wrap up
for the week we added a third segment which comes
on the first year anniversary of Of bills passing
that segment was produced by Don will banks And
there are some segments in there of folks who
knew and worked with and cared for bill and We're
buddies with Bill and we're just all about sharing
Ham radio with him and having him as the strong
influence in their lives. That's all I'm going
to say about that because I want folks to listen.
It is truly a beautiful, beautiful tribute to
him. Helped me understand a little bit more about
what Bill Pasternak was all about and why he
kept amateur radio news line running successfully
or as long as It ran and continues to run even
with him gone that says an awful lot about Bill
Pasternak So I encourage people to listen to
the whole newscast, but please Stick around for
that third segment. It's it's worth. It's worth
hearing And if somebody wants to listen to news
line and they haven't been listening to news
line How should they do that? Well, the simplest
way is, of course, the website www .arnewsline
.org. That's the easiest way to download the
podcast. If you're lucky enough to have a repeater
that broadcasts us in connection with a weekly
net, by all means, Listen there. Most of our
listeners usually hear it one of those two ways.
That's the simplest. Some folks even just go
to the website and read the script. But honestly,
this week, if anything is worth the extra effort
to hear the newscast, it's to hear all those
voices talking about Bill. You can feel the emotion.
You can feel the love for Bill. So I encourage
folks to find some way to get an addition to
listen to. Okay, so it's carried on many repeaters
around the country, so you'll just have to check
the list and see. And then the other way is arnewsline
.org just to recap all of that to check out Amateur
Radio Newsline this week. And that comes out
sometime tomorrow, right? Yes, indeed. Just a
few hours from now, so it will be available.
Obviously, folks who are on Facebook can see
a preview of the script that's posted up on Facebook
on our amateur radio newsline Facebook page.
But again, for a real treat, find the newscast,
listen to the newscast. We have one of our correspondence,
making his debut as an anchor. It was a wonderful
effort on his part. I think as great a team as
we have on Newsline, and my goodness, we do have
quite a team, this particular edition, everybody
worked extra hard to make this happen. And we're
talking about a team that spans the globe here.
We've got everybody on board for this. And I
think, Bill would be proud. Bill would be very
proud, I suspect. I think so too, and I look
forward to getting that released out in the public
eye tomorrow. So, as I've read your scripts,
a lot of your scripts kind of reflect Bill's
writing, but I noticed that it seems like just
about every script that I get to read anyway.
um commonly you'll take multiple perspectives
on a story and put kind of a happy turn at the
end a feel -good turn and and i guess it's so
different from what we get in the headlines of
just regular news all the time so how did you
how did you come up with that style of of writing
to do that well unless the story is Some straightforward
news like for instance legislation Something
like a tragedy Well when it's more feature II
we like to be able to bring it to life a little
more it's it's a luxury we have because We come
out once a week, so we are not really looking
at being competitive the way daily journalism
is you know by the time we've produced Our newscast
the news is old. I mean here in the newspaper
business. It's different because every moment
Your stories are evolving and at least in the
case of a newspaper website or any web -based
news product You can change moment to moment
much like broadcasts But with the amateur radio
news line, we need to package it a little differently.
We need it to have legs for a whole week. We
need it to be relevant so that people won't listen
and say, ah, that's old news. What do I need
that for? We want it to make sense to them. We
want them to be entertained. And my goodness,
there's a lot of stuff out there that's just
plain funny. or at least amusing or worth smiling
at, unusual things we've come across. One of
the first reports I remember doing when I was
still getting accustomed to writing for AR Newsline
was a report out of Ireland. It was a wedding
between two radio amateurs, and I don't know
if it was held at the Ham Club, but we had some
fun with that. We have indeed had some Some cute
stuff our main purpose Of course is to let folks
know what's going on Let them know if an Aries
Aries Hams have responded in a tragedy how they
did what they did the fact that they succeeded
and that's certainly part of this week's report
But the point is it's also okay to have fun.
It's okay to be a little entertained News can
be funny And, uh, we had an interesting one,
uh, this week with a, uh, I don't want to give
too much away here because we want people to
listen, but, uh, we had a, an interesting, uh,
story this week that, that was mine that, uh,
involved, uh, a lighthouse. Yes. Yes. Um, that
was in Canada. Yes. So you'll have to. have to
listen to that but that was one of those those
feel -good stories and and so we appreciate those
and um so I guess the the next question is so
so how does that compare to your your day job
in in print and do you get tired of writing or
does that variety of the immediate hard -hitting
uh style that you do day in and day out does
Does the news line style add some variety to
that? Oh, absolutely. I think it's, it's the
difference between, uh, the difference between
walking and dancing. Okay. In the newspaper business,
we walk most of the time, uh, because you've
got to be straightforward. You've got to put
one foot in front of the other and you have to
very, very carefully craft your story and make
sure it's news. the news is accurate. You have
to get all the facts out there that you can.
And it's, it's laborious. It's, it's craft. With
the features on Newsline, it's, it's a way to
kick back and breathe a little bit. And I think
it's a good blend of the two. Newspapering typically
You put your your hard -edged stuff up front
and and we do that as well in the news line report
But I think we have the ability to intermingle
it and to break it up a little bit here so that
Folks don't get too depressed by by the the unfortunate
stuff by the the earthquake stories and the wildfire
stories and the flood stories All of which, you
know required ham intervention and we report
on that or the news of the silent keys and prominent
silent keys in the ham community. We also report
on people achieving and we interview interesting
unusual hams. We spoke, we had an interview with
quite a older ham who was making, must have been
his 20th trip to Dayton. So we got a perspective
from him. How nice, how nice that all of this
is out there in our universe and all we have
to do is reach out and, and there are people
they're willing to talk. Hands are great talkers
as you know, and, uh, this is just one big rag
chew. Very good. Well, what's your, what's your
favorite part of doing Newsline? Gee, you know,
I thought about that question. I think. I could
take the easy route and say, oh, Neil, it's the
writing. I love the writing. I never get tired
of the writing. And that's true. That's true.
But you know what? I can write. I can write for
my newsletter. I can write for a magazine. I
can write for anybody. I think the best part
about Newsline in particular is the teamwork.
We have amazing talent. We have good people.
These guys are just... Very cool. Very fun. Very
crazy. Uh, put us all in one room one day and
watch out. We, we do have a very good time and
everybody is committed to doing their very best.
We're all volunteers. I mean, how good is that?
We are here because we want to be here. And I
think there's, there's something to be said for
that. I totally agree. Well, we're gonna take
a break. We gotta you gotta pay a few bills here,
but We'll be back with more from Karen Eve Murray
KD to GT and we'll take your calls at 812 net
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So let us know what your questions are for Karen
Eve Murray. While we're waiting for some calls,
what would you like to see in the future? Where
do you see amateur radio news line heading? What
I would like to see is more more back -and -forth
work with the listeners More distribution in
chance all Down the line down the line not not
this year But definitely more interactivity with
listeners. I'd like between Newscasts to engage
the listeners in in more dialogue. I think that
will help them take ownership of this as their
newscast It will make them have more of a sense
of input. And I think it will build community.
And Ham Radio is about community. We are a community.
We are a global community. And having that kind
of interactivity in this age, in this day and
age, with the technology that we have, I think
it would be easy enough to create that. We do
get an awful lot of news tips and we rely on
that. We get contributions from people. We rely
on that. But, you know, I think having greater
interactivity from our constituents would build
a stronger responsiveness. And I think Bigger
better news line. I don't think we need to grow
in size or in length We we did pare down and
that was actually one of Bill's Final recommendations
last year. He thought we could go shorter lighter
brighter and tighter and indeed it is a better
newscast with with a shortened version, but I
Think getting folks greater greater participation
would would really be the icing on the cake very
good very good well let's let's talk a minute
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have a question for Karen Eve Murray I can't
let this go by without at least talking about
squirrels because you just have this this thing
about squirrels tell us about the squirrels and
and i'm going to play the the squirrel background
here you've heard this before so i knew this
was coming yes you knew this was going to happen
Tell us about the squirrels. Well, first of all,
I issue with disclaimer here. My squirrels are
not the coax eating type. They have not eaten
any of my coax. I have plenty of coax and there
is not a tooth mark to be found on any of my
coax. So that I just want to say in defense and
I rest my case. I got my New York State license
to rehabilitate wildlife long before I got my
FCC license for amateur radio. I'm now, oh I
don't want to say semi -retired, but I'm not
as active taking in orphaned and injured wildlife.
It is very time consuming and unfortunately I
don't have the time I used to. But it is rewarding
to work with these animals and to get them in
good enough shape that they can go back into
the wild and we take them to the woods where
they can resume their lives far from other people's
coax. And have you come up with a training program
to make sure that they stay away from coax? A
few of them come up to me when I was when I was
studying for my tech and then my general and
I was it was a summer I was sitting outside on
the deck a few of them came up and jumped up
on my lap and looked at my study guide and I
thought you know I could get licenses for them
and then they would understand the importance
of staying off the coax. And then we could have
squirrels on the air. Squirrels on the SOTA.
We like that. And of course, the ones on the
air are the flying squirrels. I could train them
to hang the dipoles. I mean, there's a whole
untapped market here for getting squirrels into
ham radio. But these guys, the property and back
of the house, we do have nest boxes for them.
And we believe in live and let live, I think.
They need to be where they need to be, and we
need to be where we are, and it's really mutual
respect. And it's been a good run. But I think
now we just look out for them. And we still love
them, but just not as busily as we used to. We
don't have a little nursery in the house with
the newborns anymore. And we also have to mention
the horse. Ah, the horse, yes. The horse is an
acquisition from last year. You mentioned at
the start of the program that around age 12 I
wanted my license. At the time that would have
been the novice. There was something else I wanted
at age 12 and that was a horse. So it took me
my lifetime to get both. And he's a wonderful
horse. He's worth waiting for. He's a good guy.
And I'm back to riding after many, many years
of not. And now, as you say, our jobs get in
the way of ham radio. The horse doesn't get in
the way of ham radio. But when I'm on the horse,
I think I could be on the air. When I'm on the
air, I think I could be on the horse. So wherever
you are, wherever you are, you're thinking where
else you could be. But this horse is an awesome
quarter horse and he's nine years old. And there
is a picture on our Facebook page. We've got
a picture of Karen on the horse. So if you want
to check that out, you can go to our Facebook
page. We can probably get an HT to take along
maybe one day on a trail ride. Maybe hit a repeater
and activate the horse. So we've got aeronautical
mobile and maritime mobile. Would that be an
equine mobile? Equine mobile. There you go. Equine
mobile. I'm going to find out if we can't perhaps
get a new category going for equine mobile. Now
when I was a kid, I had bicycle mobile. I had
a little gel cell pack underneath the banana
seat. And the radio in the basket. And a magnet
mount on the back of the seat. And I had a bicycle
mobile. Very nice. Now I imagine it was a metal
frame bicycle. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. So, you
know, that's... And and you were on you were
on what two two meters? Yeah, yeah that was that
was on two meters and actually it was some 11
meters too, but we won't talk about that but
but yeah And and I can I've done and I've done
pool Mobile to cool. Oh Living dangerously. Yes.
Yes. I've done for a little too. No, no No, just
that would be for propagation. Yeah. Yeah that
might help but no So equine mobile think about
that we may be on something here So I think we
could get more than a few people to help with
that. In fact my own club I The wife, the X,
Y, L of one of our members is involved in horses.
She just now got her tech and they're trying
to figure out a way to blend the two universes.
Perhaps if ever there are wildfires out there
to do equine evacuation safely because out east
is horse country. So that's a smart. good use
of ham radio as With so many things in emergency
work now the squirrel mobile. I'm not sure Yeah,
itty -bitty radios itty -bitty itty -bitty -bitty
-bitty radios wouldn't know no, and I think they
would chew chew those Definitely you would you
would get much of a signal after about ten minutes
It looks good, and they chomp down on it, and
that would be it Yeah, yeah, probably not good,
but a line gray line propagation But I like the
idea of the dipoles though helping hang the dipoles
That could be that could be very good. Maybe
we should try that for field day Well, it's coming
up like squirrels. So yeah Two weeks from now.
I may raise that with the club too. It's like
hey, you know, we do have a native Flying squirrel
population here. Let's get some wire. Tie an
acorn to the end. See what they do with it. There
you go. Sounds like a plan to me. 40 meters,
flying squirrel. Yep, there we go. The flying
squirrel antenna. Maybe you can market that.
Yeah, why not? Well, you know what? Check the
next catalog. That comes your way and you'll
see somebody put that in there. Wait a minute,
this was our idea on HamTalk Live. How dare you?
I can hear the calls to the ham station right
now. Hey, do you carry the flying squirrel antenna?
There you go. Or you know, I hear a lot of chatter
on the line. Oh no, that's just the squirrel.
That's just the squirrel. That's the squirrel.
Well, Karen, I know you've got to get back to
work, so we are going to let you go, but thanks
so much for taking time to be on the show tonight,
and we'll be looking forward to that special
edition of Newsline coming out tomorrow. Yes,
thank you for that. Anyone who's never heard
Newsline, And I hope there aren't too many folks
in that category. But if you've never heard it,
this is the one to hear. And anyone else who
is a regular listener, you're in for quite a
treat. Sit quietly, make yourself a cup of whatever,
and give a listen and enjoy. There she is, it's
Karen Eve Murray KD2GUT live from the news table
at this point in New York, but going back to
the news desk there. Thanks so much for being
on the show, Karen. My pleasure, Neil. Thanks
for having me aboard. This is KD2GUT, all clear.
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Murrow. Or answer C, Keith Olbermann. So if you
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-1 or Skype us at HamTalk Live. will make you
a winner if you know who the famous broadcaster
is that's also a ham. Walter Cronkite, Edward
Murrow, or Keith Olbermann. So let's check Skype
again. I guess nobody's gonna be brave enough
to call in. We're gonna have to work on that.
We're gonna have to get you guys to call in.
So, well, I guess we will wrap up tonight's show.
Thanks for tuning in to HamTalk Live. Thanks
to Karen Eve Murray, KD2GUT, and all the listeners
out there in cyberspace. Next Thursday night
at 9 p .m. Eastern, Dan Romanchik, KB6NU, is
going to be here. He's going to talk about study
materials for license testing. He's just released
his new book for the extra class pool that's
changing here next month. So if you are interested
in upgrading, That'd be a good show to tune in
and listen to. Again, that's KB6NU. We'll be
here next week. He has the No Nonsense License
Study Guides. And for a list of all of our upcoming
guests, be sure to visit HamTalkLive .com. So
for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7
-3, 7 -5, and may the good DX be yours. The end.