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KB6NU, is coming to you live from Ann Arbor,
Michigan. Dan is the author of several books,
including the No Nonsense Amateur Radio License
Study Guides, 21 Things to Do After You Get Your
Amateur Radio License, and the CW Geek's Guide
for Having Fun with Morris Code. Dan was first
licensed in 1971, but didn't become very active
until, or in ham radio rather, until field day
of 2002. Since then he's been very active on
the air and has one of the top ham radio blogs
that's over at KB6NU .com. Dan works a lot of
CW and encourages others to use the mode and
at the Dayton Hamvention this year he spoke about
how to learn and have fun with CW at the CW forum.
Dan serves as the ARRL Michigan section training
manager and three or four times a year he teaches
a one -day technician class. For those classes
he uses his own no -nonsense study guide. The
PDF version is available for free on his website,
but it's also available in Kindle and Nook versions
for a modest charge, and the print version is
also available. That's on Amazon. Professionally,
Dan is a freelance technical writer and a website
developer. Dan, welcome this evening to HamTalk
Live. Nice to be here, Neil. So let's start off
with the extra class because the extra class
question pool is going to change here in just
about two weeks on July the 1st. The new question
pool takes effect and thus your new book, the
known insets guide to the extra class license
study guide. includes all of those changes, and
so what are some of the changes to the question
pool this time around? Well, you know, I was
really impressed with the new question pool because
what they've done is gotten rid of a lot of the
old questions and reorganized some of the sections
so that the relevant questions are grouped together
more closely. I'll give you an example. In one
of the sections, they had questions about klystrons
and parametric amplifiers. Well, I don't know
about you, but I've never used the klystron and
I would guess 99 .9 % of hams out there haven't.
And I didn't even know what a parametric amplifier
was. So they removed those questions. On the
other hand, they added questions. In a later
section, they added some questions on solar array
charge controllers, and that's gotten to be a
big thing as powering your station by using solar
panels. So they've added a lot of more relevant
questions and gotten rid of some of the old ones,
and that's the major change. Yeah, I think over
the years they're doing a little bit better job
of that. I remember one of the things that we
used to always complain about on the technician
exam was the question about Guam. I don't know
if you remember that one, but what ITU region
is Guam in? That was one of the questions. Okay,
now wait a minute. The intent of the question
here is so that people realize Guam is in a different
ITU region, therefore there are different band
allocations. But instead of making the question
ask that, The question was, what ITU region is
Guam in? And so that was one of the things that
I was adamant about and some others were as well.
I wasn't the first that said, hey, we need to
revamp these questions around and we've got maybe
the right material, but we're not asking them
in the right way. And I think over the years,
that's gotten a lot better. Yeah, I do too and
and that bomb question hasn't been on the last
couple of question pools anyway, so yeah Yeah,
it's been it's been changed around so that it
does ask the you know the intent rather than
right, you know, just oh Is it one two or three,
you know, which which region is it? So I think
it's three, isn't it? Yeah, I believe it is.
I believe it is three actually You know that
one always always threw me and Don't know but
I think they're doing doing a better job. So
if you're taking an extra class test and You've
been using the current study materials. We want
to make sure everybody knows you've got until
the end of the month and after that uh, starting
on July 1st, the new question pool takes effect.
Now, just because that happens doesn't necessarily
mean that you're out of luck. It's just the way
the questions are worded, right? Right. And I
think about between 15 and 20 % of the questions
are different. So, you know, if you theoretically,
if you knew all the, all the answers to all the
questions, you'd still pass the test, but You
know, there's quite a few questions that are
different. So if you want to practice those particular
questions, make sure you pay attention to the
dates on your study guides or on your manuals
and make sure that it's the right one. And the
practice tests. And taking the practice tests
online. Yes, yes. And there's many different
sites for that. We may even talk about that a
little bit if we want. but those practice tests
there are different versions because that's going
to change on July 1st so make sure you're using
the right ones. Well tell us a little bit about
your study guide that's just coming out for the
extra and how that's different from some of the
others that are available. Well you know I call
it the no -nonsense study guide because It really
is kind of no -nonsense. I don't really, and
I get criticized for this, I don't really try
to teach the material, but I try to teach people
how to pass the test. And especially for the
technician class test, I do that because I think
that people need to get a license to, a lot of
people learn by doing, and how can they do without
a license? So they... you know, they really want
to get that license and that's what my study
guide's about, just to cut to the chase. I had
one guy email me after he passed this test and
he said, you know, Dan, he said, your study guide
said in one paragraph, he was talking about a
particular topic, said in one paragraph what
it took the ARRL study guide one or two pages
to do. So that kind of gives you a feel for how
my study guides are written. Now I was looking
at a sample on the Kindle app and we were talking
about this before the show. The way I would kind
of describe your study guide is that it's a narrative,
it's a story where you're starting out with this
topic and then you write a story and then in
bold you've got the questions. You know, the
information that's in the question itself. So
it reads like a story. It's not so much a manual
but a true study guide. It's a thing that you
read and you notice the bold print things and
so it really does cut down to the chase where
you may still need some explanations on some
of these things but This is the study guide version
exactly and and It's kind of interesting story
how I started doing these things About I guess
maybe ten years ago now. We were at field day,
you know field days coming up We're at field
day I'm at the public information table and a
guy comes up to me and he says hey, you know
I've written this study guide and I'm trying
to get more people to use it And he'd read my
blog, I guess. And so I looked at it, and it
was written in that same style. And I said, well,
I'll put it on my blog. And I put it on my blog.
Two years later, the question pool was updated.
And it was pretty popular on the blog. Two years
later, the question pool was updated. And I tried
to find this guy. I tried to find him and ask
him if he was going to update it. And I couldn't
even find him. I looked him up on QRZ .com. He
had no email address listed. I sent him a postal
mail. Never got a response. I said, well, this
thing's too good to just let go. So I updated
that version, and then I added the general and
extra class versions. So that's how I kind of
got into it. So I can't even really take credit
for the style per se, although a lot of that
content is mine, the storytelling part. Sure.
One of the things we were talking about again
before the show, maybe we ought to record before
and after these shows. It seems like we always
have good discussions before and after the shows
that people would benefit from. But one of the
things that I was talking to you about being
an educator professionally is learning styles.
different people learn in different ways. There's
auditory learners and visual learners and tactile
learners and all these different types of learning.
And most people, for some reason, I once again
am the exception to this, but most people favor
one heavily. And so where some people may do
better with one of the traditional study manuals,
let's we'll call it, They really need this this
Reading this narrative style to help them get
it and like you said it cuts to the chase so
You know, it's it's a different approach to the
same thing And we're ending up at the same point
And because like think think about this, you
know, I'm I have an electrical engineering degree
it took me four years to learn this material
from from a engineering slash scientific viewpoint.
Well, you know, we're not going to do that in
ham radio, right? Nobody's going to take that
much time. So it's, you know, like I said, get
criticized sometimes for the, for the lack of
technical depth, but that, I mean, this is a
hobby, you know, that's still, that's still kind
of the way it is. Yeah. It's unfortunate that,
um, that we don't have a chance to, you know,
Teach more and build more in at at the beginning
You know your philosophy here and a lot of people
is that you know, you get the license and then
you start learning it and it takes time it does
it takes a lot of time to to do that and there's
just too much to cram in all at once and So I
think you know, I think that's a good approach
for a lot of people is is to to do it that way
And I consider every one of my students, and
even almost every one of my readers, as my Elmaris.
And they're free to contact me, call me, email
me if they've got questions about anything. And
a lot do, a lot of them do. And I help them as
much as I can. And if they're... not here in
Ann Arbor, it's kind of harder. But even so,
I get lots of emails on different topics and
I try to answer them. And that's how I work around
the lack of actually teaching the material, if
you will. Yeah, the depth. Yeah, the depth. Yeah,
very good. And there are other sources for the
depth. You could use this with one of the other.
uh, manuals or, um, I know, um, reading on your
blog, you often just recommend Google. Yeah.
There's lots of stuff on Google. You know, I
mean, it's, it's, it's, it's amazing how much
is on Google. Really? Yeah. It's just so much.
Yeah. There's just so much stuff out there and
thank goodness for Google for pointing us in
the, where to go on the net to get it. Um, so
remind everybody how, uh, they can get a copy
of this. Okay, just go to my website, kb6nu .com.
There's a link right on the homepage to the study
guides page. And like you said, the PDF version
of the Technician Class Study Guide is free.
There's a charge for the Kindle and Nook versions.
And then there's a link to Amazon for the print
version. And that's for all three study guides.
Okay, so be sure to check that out. That's KB6NU
.com and then you can look on Amazon or on Nook
for the print and the ebook version of the study
guide. The other thing that I want to talk about
before we take a break and take everybody's questions
here, hopefully we've got some questions lined
up for you. If not, I do. How do you? Cram everything
for a technician class into a single day. I've
I've done a lot of classes I teach for living
and and I teach ham radio as well and I've done
You know, I've done the traditional 10 to 13
week classes. I've done four weeks of You know
a variety of things but one time three of us
Kind of pitched in and and did a weekend class.
We did it in two days and We liked it never finished.
I mean the last couple of sub elements. It was
like Okay, and now that Okay, now it's time to
take your test and and so how do you cram all
that into one day? Well, so so there's several
sort of tricks of the trade first off. I eat
I'm require everybody to pre -register. Not that
I really need them to pre -register, but it gives
me their email addresses so I can email them
information about the class. One of the most
important things I tell them is to download the
study guide immediately, however long before
the class is going to take place, and just start
reading through it and maybe take some online
practices. That gets them prepared for the class.
Then once we get into the class that one of the
first things I'd say in the class is I'm not
really trying to teach you the material here
I'm trying to teach you enough to pass the test
and I tell him I said I'm gonna I'm gonna go
through all this material pretty quickly I will
take some questions, but at some point, but I'm
but I don't get distracted. I you know at some
point if the answer gets too long, I just cut
it and move on, because we do have to get through
all the questions in the question pool before
the VEs come in. So armed with those two, and
I start and stop on time. I start right on time
in the morning. We take a half an hour for lunch.
I don't wait. If people aren't back from lunch,
I have to start, because there's all that material
to get through. The other thing I do, and I think
this is kind of an important thing, I follow
my study guide from front to back, okay, just
in that exact order. And the way my study guide
is organized is all the technical material comes
first. So the first thing I teach about, cover,
is the Ohm's law, how to calculate power. Then
we get into the circuit diagrams and talk about
the components. So we cover all that. that technical
material early in the morning when they're still
kind of fresh and then we go through the rules
and regulations and operating practices later
in the afternoon where it doesn't really matter
you don't have to Think so much about that stuff,
but just sort of memorize the answers and you
know That's the other thing about the tech test
a lot of those thought of those questions you
can only learn by memorizing, right? I mean,
there's no there's no way to memorize that 52
.5 I guess you can't calculate that but but there
are a lot of quite especially the rules, you
know, there's no way you're you can What is the
function of a control operator? That's right.
No Well, how much power can you run when operating
a radio control model? I mean, those are all
just memorization, you know? So anyway, I think
that's a key point, too, is the order in which
I cover the topics. Very good. Any other big
suggestions to people who are teaching one of
these one -day or weekend classes as opposed
to the long -grown -out? Yeah, but one thing
one thing I one thing I do is is I and of course
not I've done this a number of times already
So I'm I've pretty practiced at it, but but go
to go along with what you said about my study
guide I tell stories I tell stories as we go
through that keeps people's interest and it brings
home the point I'll give you an example. There's
several questions on the test about Using ferrite
chokes if you have a noise problem And I always
tell the story of the first 40 meter dipole I
put up at my house here. I stretched out the
dipole. I got my antenna analyzer out. I tuned
it up. Everything looked great. I go down to
the shack and start calling CQ. The next thing
I know, my wife's running down the stairs. What
are you doing? She says. I said, well, I'm just
here calling CQ. She says, well, you're opening
and closing the garage door. And it's true. So
the way it worked was that the dipole was run
almost parallel to the wire from the switch on
the wall to the garage door opener. And of course,
those garage door openers did not have any noise
suppression on their input. And it was just picking
up that RF and opening and closing. So what did
I do? I got a fairy choke, wound a few turns
around it. work like a charm. I haven't had trouble
since. So telling that story brings home that
point about the ferrite choke. That reminds me
of a story. I had found this thing that I just
thought was just incredible. It was a wireless
microphone. So you'd plug in the little receiver
into the mic jack and then you had this little
almost walkie talkie like microphone with this
telescopic antenna on it and it used 49 megahertz
I think it was and so I love that thing because
I could turn the radio up in my parents bedroom
which is where the radios were and I could go
into my room and I could still hear it you know
and I could be you know walk into my room and
grab something and then come back you know without
having to having to drop it this before we had
$30 handhelds and one day I noticed that I made
a phone call and On my cordless phone and every
time I hung up I heard but uh I'm like wait a
minute. That's the courtesy tone on the repeater
and and so I I You know got a dial tone and then
I hit it again and turned the phone off and I
hear but uh And yep sure enough my cordless phone
was on the same frequency as the wireless microphone
and so yeah thankfully whoever I called that
day did not answer. So yeah those things happen
and that does make you know it makes it interesting
so that way you know you can use that to teach
something like interference or A lot of people
don't realize just how much stuff is up there
at 2 .4 gigahertz and why your Wi -Fi doesn't
work well. There's a bazillion things up there.
Stories are always good. The other suggestion
I'd make, and everybody's different and I've
gotten the little pushback on this, I don't use...
PowerPoint slides at all. It's all me talking
to them and telling them stories. I think, I
think PowerPoints generally put people to sleep,
especially if you're talking about six hours
of it, right? And so I, you know, I just don't,
I just don't use them. I walk around, I draw
things on the board, all that activity gets them
to follow me and not fall asleep. There's a balance
there, definitely. I use PowerPoint a lot, but
you can get PowerPointed to death. Right, right.
So I go the total, you know, totally off it,
but everybody's got a little different way to
do it. But I just say be careful of that, you
know? Sure, sure. Well, it's time to take our
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we can answer those for you. Dan Romanchuk, KB6NU's
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Guides. So we will stand by here and see if we
get any phone calls for you. While we're waiting
here, let's talk a little bit about the CW. I
know that's one of your big things and you had
a presentation at Dayton this year on CW. So
tell us a little bit about the CW and if you
want to call in, just go right ahead and call
in. We'll take your call. Oh, I'm sorry, Dan,
I forgot to hit your button here. Oh, that's
right. Go. So they didn't hear that. So go ahead.
OK, you know, so for old timers like me, I got
my license in 1971. You know, we had to pass
a code test, so we knew all about code. But since
there's been no code test requirement, CW has
gotten to be kind of a little there's going to
be kind of a little bit of a mystique about it.
And so I just wanted to try and break down that
mystique, show that it's not rocket science and
it's a lot of fun. So that was the whole thrust
of my talk at Dayton. And of course I have another
book, The CW Geek's Guide to Having Fun with
Morse Code, where I went through basically the
same material, still talks a little bit about
how to learn the code and then a little bit about
how to operate and basically how to have fun
with it. Very good. Um, so, um, why, why CW?
What, what's your, um, what fascinates you more
about that than some of the other modes? I don't
know. That's a good question. I think that it's,
uh, you know, it's kind of, I don't know, maybe
it's kind of a flow thing. You know, it's a,
it's certainly a skill. You know, I take certain
pride in the, in developing my skill at sending
and receiving, uh, I sometimes joke that anybody
can talk, but it takes some skill to send and
receive Morse code. So that's not quite the case.
Of course, phone operation is a skill, too. But
I think that's it. More than anything is the
skill involved. OK, very good. Well, yeah, I
remember taking my test when I was five and you
had to copy a whole minute. of a solid copy and
first time I got 23 letters, I needed 25. Didn't
make it, but the second time I got 104, so made
it and finally got up to 20 words a minute. I
put it off for a long time. I got up to advanced
by the time I was nine, but the 20 words a minute,
I just, I was like, yeah, the theory, yeah, I
can do that, but the code, no, there's no way.
When I was 18, I finally said, okay, I need to
be a VE now that we've got this VE stuff going
on and I need to pass this. I finally got the
20 words a minute down. It took a few times,
but finally got it right before they dropped
all the code tests. It's a lot of fun and I still
teach it. I still remember it and I still teach
it because some people want to do that just so
they have a secret code. Right, right. I encourage
people to try it. If it's not your thing, fine,
don't do it. Don't let anybody browbeat you into
thinking that you got to know code to be a real
ham because that's the least of my, the farthest
thing in my mind. But I think everybody should
try it just because I have a lot of fun with
it and you won't know unless you try it. Very
very good very good, and you know it hasn't it
hasn't gone away. There's still a lot of a lot
of people using CW so give it a shot and There's
all kinds of resources out there to to help you
do that as well 812 net ham one is the phone
number 812 net ham one if you want to ask a question
to KB6 in you about His license study guides
or the new extra class Pool that's out or the
blog, you know, we haven't haven't even mentioned
the blog Talk a little bit about the blog. Sure.
So I sometimes joke that I have the number one
rated ham radio blog The reason I say that is
most often if you Google ham radio blog or amateur
radio blog I come up number one And the reason
for that is, I think, not so much that it's the
best thing out there, because there's lots of
great blogs. But I've been at it a long time.
I've been doing it over 12 years now, and there's
over 2 ,500 posts. And Google rates that highly,
longevity and amount of content. But there is
a lot of good content on there, I think, and
a lot of people like to read it. Very good. I
think we've got yeah, it came through we have
our first call of the night Familiar 1k zero
MD. How are you this evening? Good evening. I
Nice to hear you on I enjoy your show as always
and I've enjoyed hearing Dan's story tonight
and reading his blog Then what's your secret
for keeping your blog so well read? I mean sometimes
you tackle some controversial issues Do you ever
get criticized or get a lot of heat from that,
especially when you criticize the ARRL and what's
your experience been with that? Oh, Scott just
opened up a big can of worms there. All right,
go ahead, Dan. It's all yours. Well, you know
what? This is a call -in show, right? We have
to have some controversy. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, I'm not afraid of tackling controversy.
And, you know, it would be one thing if I just
criticize the ARRL. But I'm, you know, as you
know, as you probably know, since you read my
blog, I'm a big ARRL supporter. So all my criticism
is aimed at making the ARRL better and making
ham radio better, not just the ARRL. So yes,
I take on some controversial topics, but I walk
the walk too. I just don't talk the talk. You
know, I ran for the board of directors twice.
And so I was ready to serve, you know, and it
didn't work out. I didn't get elected, and that's
another story, but yeah, I'll take on controversial
topics. And the other part of it is, maybe I
spent too much time doing this, I'm on like every
ham radio mailing list you can think of. So I
get all the new, and I'm on Twitter, I get news
via Twitter about ham radio. And so I'm kind
of, tuned in to what's happening in ham radio.
And conversely, I turn around and put it on my
blog for other people to read. So I think that's
how I keep that fresh as well. That makes sense.
And I recall, I think that your criticism of
the league was simply focused on the fact that
they were not growing membership as aggressively
as you thought they should. Had Dayton made a
point of saying the league has increased membership
by 200 ,000 or it will fold financially in the
long run because of the age of the ham population?
So you were just probably a few years too early,
but you were right on. Well, right. Yeah. And
I was going to mention that because you're right.
That was one of my latest. I won't say criticisms,
my latest things about the ARRL. And I was at
that meeting, too. I was at that forum. And I
just haven't gotten around to writing about it
yet. But you're right on. That new president,
he's got that in his mind. I don't know that
he set a goal like I would like to have them
set. My thinking was that they should set a goal
of 25 % of licensed radio amateurs. as the membership
goal for the ARRL. But you're absolutely right.
He's hot on increasing membership, and I think
that's great. I want to ask you a question about
CW, if Neil will give me a little more time tonight.
I have a work colleague who's an extra class
ham, but really a five word per minute ham. And
I'm sort of a higher speed CW contester. I like
to do 35, 38 words a minute. during contests.
So I find it hard to converse with CW at the
slower speeds now because of the setup that I
have and just the fact that once you get used
to doing it at higher rewards per minute it's
a challenge. Are there any nets or any times
of events on the air where someone who wants
to increase their speed from say 5 or 10 up to
20, are there regular... groups of hams getting
on to help one another, and what would you tell
this colleague of mine that he should do to increase
his code speed? Other than get on the air, but
he said it's hard to find people, and he actually
says, we hams are a bit rude to him. They won't
stand to talk to him because he's so slow. And
I wasn't surprised to hear that, but I was disappointed.
And that'll be my last question, Neil. Thanks
for taking the call. Oh, thanks for calling in,
Scott. Go ahead. I'm kind of disappointed to
hear here. He's gotten that reaction, too But
you know, there is a little portion of the 40
meter bands from 7100 to 7125 Where a lot of
slower speed the operators hang out. He might
try that the other thing I would suggest is if
he is having look into the CW ops CW Academy
and he can go to CW ops dot org for that the
CW ops is a group that Yeah, you know, in a way,
they're kind of a little bit of elitist. You
have to be able to operate at 25 words a minute
or more and get five of the current members to
support your membership. But the one thing they
do right... and totally right, is the CW Ops
Academy. And it's totally designed to take slower
speed operators and turn them into higher speed
operators. The goal is to get them to that 20
word per minute plateau. So he might want to
look into that. Well, thanks very much. And Neil,
I'm excited about your program going forward.
You've got some great people lined up after Dan.
So congratulations on the success of your call
and show. And thanks for taking my call tonight.
Yeah, we added several of your suggestions to
the list today, so we'll look forward to hearing
from you and thanks for the support and calling
in. We appreciate that. All right, well that's
going to finish things up pretty much for us
tonight. We're just about out of time, Dan, but
we've got about a minute here, so if you've got
any other tips that you've thought of or anything
that you want to Throw in why go ahead and if
not, we'll just wrap things up Well, I just say
one last thing so Getting back to the classes.
I would like to encourage everyone all the clubs
out there to Teach teach some tech classes. You
don't have to do the one day if that's not your
thing You can do the more traditional ones, but
I think it's important to have classes because
you know hams are not getting any younger and
people transfer from town to town. And I think
the only way the clubs are gonna stay in business
is if they teach classes. And so I would encourage
that. And if anyone has any questions about that,
I would love to. to take your emails or even
your phone calls you can email me at cwgeek at
kb6nu .com and I'll do what I can to help you
get get a class set up in your club. Very good
again at cwgeek at kb6nu .com to contact Dan.
Well thank you Dan for coming on the show really
appreciate it and good luck with the with the
books and good luck with your class coming up
this weekend. Well, thanks, Neil. It was a real
pleasure. I hope I've gotten a few neurons firing
out there. Alright, very good. Thank you so much.
Quick shout out to the Xenia Wireless Association.
One of the guys from the Xenia, Illinois wireless
association came by the program that we had at
Dayton. They're a 501c3 non -profit that's raising
money for repeaters and emergency assistance
and communications so a shout out to them and
also Jtron .com. They have a lot of parts and
kits and that kind of thing and they want me
to mention that they have a monthly soldering
iron contest so if you want to win one of those
go over to J -tron .com Well, that's a wrap for
this week's edition of HamTalk Live. I'd like
to thank my guest Dan Romanchik, KB6NU, and all
the callers and listeners out there in cyberspace
and invite you back next Thursday night at 9
p .m. Eastern Time when Sean Kutsko, KX9X, the
public relations manager and former contest manager
at ARRL, will be here to talk about Field Day.
So, for a list of all of our upcoming guests,
visit HamTalkLive .com. So, for now, this is
Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7375, and may the good
DX be yours!