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The Ham Station, proud to sponsor this 00:04:22.339 --> 00:04:27.509 episode of HamTalk Live. ham talk live with Neil 00:04:27.509 --> 00:04:40.810 rap welcome back to ham talk live the ham station 00:04:40.810 --> 00:04:44.189 has you covered for both new and used equipment 00:04:44.189 --> 00:04:50.180 give Dan or Jeff a call at 800 Well, 729 -4373 00:04:50.180 --> 00:04:56.720 again, 800 -729 -4373 or go to hamstation .com. 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.139 Be sure to listen to the show every Thursday 00:04:59.139 --> 00:05:02.220 night, 9 p .m. Eastern time right here on hamtalklive 00:05:02.220 --> 00:05:05.519 .com and check out our Facebook page and Twitter 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:11.199 feed. Just search for HamTalk Live. Nathan Nixon, 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:16.029 N7NAN lives in Phoenix, Arizona. He is a retired 00:05:16.029 --> 00:05:18.610 police officer of 14 years and a single father 00:05:18.610 --> 00:05:21.629 of two boys. Currently Nathan works in the emergency 00:05:21.629 --> 00:05:26.009 management for the inter -tribal council of Arizona 00:05:26.009 --> 00:05:31.129 and the Indian country. intelligence network 00:05:31.129 --> 00:05:33.870 where he assists the Native American tribes in 00:05:33.870 --> 00:05:36.569 Arizona with their emergency preparedness activities 00:05:36.569 --> 00:05:40.769 and public safety programs. Nathan has a bachelor's 00:05:40.769 --> 00:05:44.689 and master's in emergency management and disaster 00:05:44.689 --> 00:05:48.509 preparedness. He's into emergency communications 00:05:48.509 --> 00:05:51.730 and operates several different modes from APRS 00:05:51.730 --> 00:05:57.740 to portable VHF, UHF, HF, and PSK -31. He's a 00:05:57.740 --> 00:05:59.899 member of the local Aries and Skywarn groups 00:05:59.899 --> 00:06:02.959 and enjoys working with Aries groups and often 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:06.980 does the incident command system training. Nathan 00:06:06.980 --> 00:06:09.879 is the national president for the National Tribal 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:13.579 Amateur Radio Association, NTARA, and please 00:06:13.579 --> 00:06:17.779 visit the NTARA Facebook page at National Tribal 00:06:17.779 --> 00:06:21.480 Amateur Radio Association. So Nathan, welcome 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:25.959 to HamTalk Live. Thank you, Neil. Thank you for 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:29.860 having me. Yeah, it's great to to finally have 00:06:29.860 --> 00:06:33.480 you on the show here we've been talking for quite 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:36.959 a while online and So why don't you start off 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:41.259 a little bit first? By just telling us what Ntara 00:06:41.259 --> 00:06:45.879 is and what its role is in assisting the American 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:50.819 Indian tribes well as you said in your opening 00:06:50.819 --> 00:06:54.610 I was a Police officer here in Arizona for 14 00:06:54.610 --> 00:06:56.769 years and the last four of those I worked for 00:06:56.769 --> 00:06:59.790 a Native American tribe up in the northwest part 00:06:59.790 --> 00:07:01.889 of Arizona called the the wallop I tribe they're 00:07:01.889 --> 00:07:05.569 the ones on the Grand Canyon skywalk and While 00:07:05.569 --> 00:07:08.990 I was there Working for them. I lived in a community 00:07:08.990 --> 00:07:14.629 about 40 miles 40 to 45 miles west of the community 00:07:14.629 --> 00:07:19.750 that I patrolled in and So while I was there 00:07:20.300 --> 00:07:22.720 I was heavily involved with local clubs there, 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.399 always carried my HT and my mag mount with me 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:28.019 on top of my patrol vehicle while I was at work. 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.139 And it was interesting because I found that working 00:07:31.139 --> 00:07:34.180 in that community, my portable radio would work 00:07:34.180 --> 00:07:36.360 better than our government radios would, both 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.980 our portables and our mobile radios and our vehicles. 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:42.079 From 45 miles away, I couldn't talk to my dispatch 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:44.699 on my radio sitting in my driveway at my house. 00:07:45.100 --> 00:07:49.379 But if I had the frequency programmed in my HT, 00:07:49.889 --> 00:07:51.889 with my mag mount, I could sit in my driveway 00:07:51.889 --> 00:07:54.449 and talk to them clear as day. And same way in 00:07:54.449 --> 00:07:56.470 the community, there were parts within the community 00:07:56.470 --> 00:07:59.029 where I patrolled where my portable radio didn't 00:07:59.029 --> 00:08:01.810 work, I would pull out my HT and it would work. 00:08:01.850 --> 00:08:04.850 So after I retired from there and went to work 00:08:04.850 --> 00:08:07.029 for the Inter -Tribal Council of Arizona, I met 00:08:07.029 --> 00:08:09.810 the executive director for a group called the 00:08:09.810 --> 00:08:11.790 National Tribal Emergency Management Council. 00:08:12.850 --> 00:08:17.019 They're an organization that does... emergency 00:08:17.019 --> 00:08:20.540 management preparedness and planning and training 00:08:20.540 --> 00:08:23.259 for about 300 plus tribal nations across the 00:08:23.259 --> 00:08:26.699 US. And so I had the fortunate opportunity to 00:08:26.699 --> 00:08:29.360 meet her, sat down with her, started talking, 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:32.139 found out that she was also a licensed amateur 00:08:32.139 --> 00:08:35.379 and that their organization had trained a lot 00:08:35.379 --> 00:08:38.299 of folks in CERT. And as part of their CERT training, 00:08:38.820 --> 00:08:41.519 they were having many of those individuals obtain 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:44.860 their ham radio licenses. And so she found out 00:08:44.860 --> 00:08:48.740 that that I was into it. We talked back and forth 00:08:48.740 --> 00:08:54.240 several times. And the idea was developed that, 00:08:54.539 --> 00:08:57.259 hey, amateur radio could be really useful in 00:08:57.259 --> 00:08:59.600 tribal communities, not only because of the distances 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:05.720 that are covered, but also just as a secondary 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.980 form of communications. And so out of that came 00:09:08.980 --> 00:09:10.639 the National Tribal Amateur Radio Association. 00:09:11.539 --> 00:09:15.289 And as I've said on previous shows, that I've 00:09:15.289 --> 00:09:18.129 been on. One of the big things that we had to 00:09:18.129 --> 00:09:19.769 decide when we put this organization together 00:09:19.769 --> 00:09:23.049 was did we do it as a freestanding organization 00:09:23.049 --> 00:09:27.629 and then apply for 501C3 or do we go under the 00:09:27.629 --> 00:09:29.110 National Tribal Emergency Management Council. 00:09:29.190 --> 00:09:32.610 So we decided to do the latter and put National 00:09:32.610 --> 00:09:34.509 Tribal Amateur Radio Association under the National 00:09:34.509 --> 00:09:37.549 Tribal Emergency Management Council. That way 00:09:37.549 --> 00:09:41.629 we're 501C3, all that sort of stuff. So after 00:09:41.629 --> 00:09:45.049 we started it, We made the Facebook page. We 00:09:45.049 --> 00:09:47.950 made the Twitter feed. We applied for a club 00:09:47.950 --> 00:09:51.490 call sign. We got that. So we have our club page 00:09:51.490 --> 00:09:55.649 on QRZ. And just slowly but surely, every chance 00:09:55.649 --> 00:09:58.309 I get, I've been putting information out. And 00:09:58.309 --> 00:09:59.970 slowly but surely, we've been getting more members. 00:10:00.710 --> 00:10:03.309 And as of Tuesday, when I was on another show, 00:10:04.210 --> 00:10:07.190 we were up to about 330 that are on the roster 00:10:07.190 --> 00:10:09.970 right now for National Tribal Amateur Radio Association. 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:14.720 Out of the 567 federally recognized tribal nations, 00:10:15.620 --> 00:10:18.340 we have about 15 tribes that have become associate 00:10:18.340 --> 00:10:23.200 members, the actual tribe. And then with actual 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:27.320 membership and the tribal nations that are represented 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:29.700 through our membership, we've got about 30 different 00:10:29.700 --> 00:10:31.379 tribal nations that are represented out of those 00:10:31.379 --> 00:10:39.340 567. OK, so what's the role of ham radio taking 00:10:40.299 --> 00:10:44.360 taking place there. Is it just to fill in the 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:48.580 missing communications link then with the public 00:10:48.580 --> 00:10:53.539 safety radios, the lack of coverage there, or 00:10:53.539 --> 00:10:57.179 is that for them to take some ownership of it? 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:01.740 What's the role of getting ham radio into their 00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:05.480 Mcom plan? Well, I guess the biggest part of 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:13.110 it is And I'll use Arizona as an example. In 00:11:13.110 --> 00:11:17.190 Arizona, we have about six or seven tribal nations 00:11:17.190 --> 00:11:19.129 that are co -located next to several of the big 00:11:19.129 --> 00:11:22.809 metropolitan areas, Phoenix, Tucson, and Flagstaff. 00:11:23.490 --> 00:11:26.110 But most of our other tribal nations are very, 00:11:26.110 --> 00:11:30.129 very remote. Any form of communications are limited. 00:11:30.350 --> 00:11:31.889 I've been on some of the tribal nations here 00:11:31.889 --> 00:11:34.950 in Arizona where You can go from one village 00:11:34.950 --> 00:11:37.289 and have Wi -Fi and cell phone coverage, and 00:11:37.289 --> 00:11:40.409 you can drive 50 miles in any direction to another 00:11:40.409 --> 00:11:43.289 village, and you may not have any sort of cell 00:11:43.289 --> 00:11:47.370 phone reception, no Wi -Fi, whatever it may be. 00:11:47.929 --> 00:11:50.250 So even within those tribal nations or individual 00:11:50.250 --> 00:11:53.110 villages or communities, it varies as to what 00:11:53.110 --> 00:11:55.990 sort of communications they have. And as you 00:11:55.990 --> 00:11:59.049 and your listeners know, with ham radio, basically 00:11:59.049 --> 00:12:02.169 as long as you have electricity, and you have 00:12:02.169 --> 00:12:04.190 the space to put up an antenna and put a radio 00:12:04.190 --> 00:12:08.690 in, you can have that. In the western half of 00:12:08.690 --> 00:12:12.610 the United States, I've met many people from 00:12:12.610 --> 00:12:14.350 tribal nations who are licensed amateurs, and 00:12:14.350 --> 00:12:17.710 then I haven't met anybody from some of the other 00:12:17.710 --> 00:12:22.870 ones. So the way we envisioned it was, and part 00:12:22.870 --> 00:12:26.289 of our strategic goals, is to assist those tribal 00:12:26.289 --> 00:12:28.009 nations or members of those tribal nations who 00:12:28.009 --> 00:12:31.279 may be licensed now who want to get more individuals 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.620 from those tribal nations licensed is we've got, 00:12:34.299 --> 00:12:36.360 at least in the Pacific Northwest and here in 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:39.419 Arizona and over in California, I've got groups 00:12:39.419 --> 00:12:42.080 that have become associate members of National 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:46.000 Tribal Amateur Radio Association who said, hey, 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.700 we'll go out and we'll provide licensing classes 00:12:48.700 --> 00:12:52.580 and testing sessions for them. Because we're 00:12:52.580 --> 00:12:56.259 the 501C3, we're always asking for donations 00:12:56.259 --> 00:12:58.519 of equipment. When we get that equipment, if 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:01.190 it's in If it's in good working order, we turn 00:13:01.190 --> 00:13:02.690 around and ship it right back out to one of the 00:13:02.690 --> 00:13:05.669 tribal nations. If it's not, we have people that 00:13:05.669 --> 00:13:08.230 volunteer to fix it. Once it's fixed and ready 00:13:08.230 --> 00:13:12.129 to go and in working order, again, we send it 00:13:12.129 --> 00:13:13.990 out, make sure that they have the operators in 00:13:13.990 --> 00:13:17.049 place. Once all that's in place, then we go back 00:13:17.049 --> 00:13:21.129 about 90 to 180 days later and follow up with 00:13:21.129 --> 00:13:23.330 them, make sure that they have some sort of income 00:13:23.330 --> 00:13:27.320 training, whether it's Augustcom. MCOM, ICS, 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.139 whatever it may be. And if not, then we try and 00:13:30.139 --> 00:13:31.840 make the arrangements to get that training for 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:37.019 them so that they do have that as a secondary 00:13:37.019 --> 00:13:40.039 means of communication for public safety. But 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:42.960 also too, like I said at the beginning of this, 00:13:44.019 --> 00:13:45.919 is many of the villages and communities are so 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:49.399 far spread out that it may be one of their only 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:52.340 forms of communication. And that's huge to me. 00:13:52.750 --> 00:13:57.289 Oh yeah, that's going to give you some communications 00:13:57.289 --> 00:14:00.230 in those remote areas that normally wouldn't 00:14:00.230 --> 00:14:03.330 be served. So what challenges have you found 00:14:03.330 --> 00:14:09.809 then with these tribes in setting this up and 00:14:09.809 --> 00:14:12.149 getting the training done that might be a little 00:14:12.149 --> 00:14:18.820 different from some other populations? You know 00:14:18.820 --> 00:14:21.059 because the the tribal nations are sovereign 00:14:21.059 --> 00:14:23.659 nations so when you look at the big picture of 00:14:23.659 --> 00:14:26.019 things You know the United States itself is a 00:14:26.019 --> 00:14:28.000 sovereign nation and each one of the states within 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.039 the United States is a sovereign nation and Then 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:34.179 each one of the 567 recognized tribal nations 00:14:34.179 --> 00:14:37.940 is a sovereign nation as well so I think one 00:14:37.940 --> 00:14:40.019 of the big hurdles is especially if it's a community 00:14:40.019 --> 00:14:43.720 where They've never heard it of ham radio. They 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:46.559 don't know what it is to go in and explain to 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:48.659 them, here's what it is, and here's how it can 00:14:48.659 --> 00:14:52.720 be beneficial to you. However, in many Native 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.539 communities, at least here in Arizona, when you 00:14:55.539 --> 00:14:59.320 go in and start talking about emergency preparedness 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:05.080 and the bad things that can happen, some of the 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:07.240 elders have told me that by having that discussion, 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.750 they feel that it can bring that... situation 00:15:11.750 --> 00:15:15.990 onto them or onto their people. And so trying 00:15:15.990 --> 00:15:19.110 to explain it in a way where how it can be useful 00:15:19.110 --> 00:15:21.669 to them has probably been one of the biggest 00:15:21.669 --> 00:15:27.490 challenges that we faced. Now how can people 00:15:27.490 --> 00:15:35.210 help out with NTARA? Are you looking for radios, 00:15:35.470 --> 00:15:40.940 manpower? What are you looking for on that? Pretty 00:15:40.940 --> 00:15:42.639 much everything you mentioned Neil. I mean when 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:45.399 we started NTA RE we didn't limit the membership 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:50.559 You know you do have some clubs groups associations 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:53.980 whatever it may be that have You know limited 00:15:53.980 --> 00:15:56.940 their membership. We didn't do that. We opened 00:15:56.940 --> 00:16:01.200 it up to you know individuals who are Native 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.759 American Native American tribes individuals who 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:06.240 work within Native American communities and anybody 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:07.919 who just wants to learn about history and culture 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:12.549 and what You know what Native American communities 00:16:12.549 --> 00:16:15.029 are all about. So we've opened it up to everybody 00:16:15.029 --> 00:16:17.509 So anybody who's listening tonight if they want 00:16:17.509 --> 00:16:20.809 to join You know, we're always looking for membership 00:16:20.809 --> 00:16:23.629 and that's my big push is is we're always looking 00:16:23.629 --> 00:16:27.529 for membership You know, I'll provide my my email 00:16:27.529 --> 00:16:31.929 address and some of our social media outlets 00:16:31.929 --> 00:16:34.769 Here in a little bit and you know, they can get 00:16:34.769 --> 00:16:38.360 a hold of us through any of those As you said, 00:16:38.539 --> 00:16:40.100 yeah, you know, we're also looking for donations 00:16:40.100 --> 00:16:44.179 of equipment. You know, anybody who's willing 00:16:44.179 --> 00:16:47.620 to go out to a tribal nation that may be near 00:16:47.620 --> 00:16:52.379 them and provide a licensing class or testing 00:16:52.379 --> 00:16:54.779 session for individuals from within the community 00:16:54.779 --> 00:16:58.720 or the surrounding community. And also, too, 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.860 once we go in and do some sort of emergency communications 00:17:01.860 --> 00:17:03.559 training with them, like I mentioned earlier, 00:17:03.580 --> 00:17:08.059 whether it's the MCOM or AUGSCOM or... ICS training, 00:17:08.619 --> 00:17:12.160 you know, to have those individuals on a call 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:13.960 list so if something does happen and they need 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.220 those operators to get there, you know, they 00:17:16.220 --> 00:17:18.759 have the contact information for them and they 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:21.019 can get them there. So, you know, there's several 00:17:21.019 --> 00:17:23.240 areas where people can help out and get involved, 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:26.140 but I think the biggest one right now is membership. 00:17:27.339 --> 00:17:30.500 We're working on fixing some bugs. 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We're here with Nathan Nixon N7NAN from 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.359 the National Tribal Amateur Radio Association 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.619 and Nathan why don't you go ahead and give us 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.940 the social media outlets and the email that people 00:20:22.940 --> 00:20:25.740 can contact you and then we'll start taking some 00:20:25.740 --> 00:20:32.160 calls. The phone number is 812 -NET -HAM -1 812 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:35.339 -NET -HAM -1 or you can Skype us at HamTalk Live, 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:38.960 either one works. So get your questions out there, 00:20:39.059 --> 00:20:42.240 give us a call and Nathan go ahead and give us 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:46.089 your contact information for NTARA. Okay, Neil. 00:20:46.190 --> 00:20:48.150 Well, I'll start with my email address first. 00:20:48.269 --> 00:20:49.950 So anybody that would like to contact me through 00:20:49.950 --> 00:20:53.930 email the easiest way to do that is It's Nathan 00:20:53.930 --> 00:21:06.529 so it's nathan .nixonnixon at itcaonline .com 00:21:06.529 --> 00:21:12.809 our Facebook page is ntara -national tribal amateur 00:21:12.809 --> 00:21:17.009 radio association on Facebook, on Twitter, our 00:21:17.009 --> 00:21:20.690 Twitter handle, excuse me, is at National Natl 00:21:20.690 --> 00:21:26.250 Ham, or I'm sorry, at National Tribal Ham, so 00:21:26.250 --> 00:21:31.230 it's Natl Tribal Ham on Twitter, and then on 00:21:31.230 --> 00:21:34.910 QRZ, you can look us up at the call sign, W7N. 00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:39.970 TV and QRZ gives you direct email addresses for 00:21:39.970 --> 00:21:43.069 myself as well as the national vice president 00:21:43.069 --> 00:21:46.529 who lives out in Virginia, Eric Evans K4 NDN. 00:21:47.210 --> 00:21:49.109 So those are the easiest ways to get a hold of 00:21:49.109 --> 00:21:52.630 us. Email goes right to my phone though so anybody 00:21:52.630 --> 00:21:54.690 that wants to email me that's the best way to 00:21:54.690 --> 00:21:58.019 do it. All right, very good. Hopefully you've 00:21:58.019 --> 00:22:01.259 got those and if not check that out on their 00:22:01.259 --> 00:22:05.119 qrz .com page and You can get a hold of Nathan 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:07.400 if you have any questions. We did have a couple 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:10.240 of questions come in through the week. This week 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:12.839 we'll get to hear momentarily, but just want 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:16.559 to remind everybody that it is now time for your 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.680 call. So if you have a question for Nathan or 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:22.880 a comment, give us a call on Skype at HamTalk 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:27.720 Live or you can just use your telephone 812 -NET 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:35.799 -HAM -1 812 -638 4261 is the phone number and 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:38.319 give us a call for that. So we'll go ahead and 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:40.200 start taking calls here as soon as they come 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:44.240 in and we'll go ahead and while we're waiting 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:46.680 and talk a little bit about a couple of these 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:49.259 questions that came in through the week. The 00:22:49.259 --> 00:22:56.339 first one is from KF7CG and KF7CG asked especially 00:22:56.339 --> 00:23:02.000 about the Navajo tribe. why they kind of frown 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:06.400 upon operations at the Rainbow Bridge National 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:09.920 Monument. So the Navajos I guess have a history 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:14.160 of being some code talkers and it's part of their 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:20.180 heritage but they have frowned on the NPOTA setups 00:23:20.180 --> 00:23:24.160 there and operating from the Rainbow Bridge. 00:23:24.180 --> 00:23:26.539 So can you fill us in a little bit about why 00:23:26.539 --> 00:23:32.640 that's a touchy subject, I guess. Yeah, so the 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:37.440 Rainbow Bridge is a very historical site for 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:40.460 the Navajo Nation. Not only that, it's very, 00:23:40.460 --> 00:23:43.779 very remote to try and get to. The last time 00:23:43.779 --> 00:23:45.799 I was there, I can remember we needed a four 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.880 -wheel drive just to traverse out to get to it. 00:23:49.660 --> 00:23:52.000 And very, very sacred. I know in the last few 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.759 months, I think they've put in some restrictions 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:58.049 on even photography. if I remember correctly, 00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:00.509 while people are up there, just because that's 00:24:00.509 --> 00:24:04.029 how much of a sacred site it is. You know, I 00:24:04.029 --> 00:24:07.970 think if you were to reach out to their tribal 00:24:07.970 --> 00:24:13.589 council or some of the community member who's 00:24:13.589 --> 00:24:17.730 part of the tribal council there for that area 00:24:17.730 --> 00:24:21.269 where Rainbow Bridge is, start with them and 00:24:21.269 --> 00:24:24.269 just explain what it is you want to do. Even 00:24:24.269 --> 00:24:26.410 if you can get close to it, you know, I would 00:24:26.410 --> 00:24:28.349 include that information that, hey, we'd like 00:24:28.349 --> 00:24:30.410 to get close to it. We'd like to set up a station, 00:24:30.410 --> 00:24:34.089 you know, just say that we're operating near 00:24:34.089 --> 00:24:37.029 Rainbow Bridge and go that route. But again, 00:24:37.109 --> 00:24:39.710 they're a sovereign nation and that's a very, 00:24:39.710 --> 00:24:42.809 very historical and very cultural site for them. 00:24:43.130 --> 00:24:46.349 So it's kind of a sensitive area too. And so 00:24:46.349 --> 00:24:48.250 that could be one of the big reasons why they 00:24:48.250 --> 00:24:51.910 don't want to participate. Okay, very good. Again, 00:24:52.089 --> 00:24:56.470 the phone number 812 -NET -HAM -1. 812 -NET -HAM 00:24:56.470 --> 00:24:59.990 -1, if you have a question for Nathan Nixon. 00:25:00.849 --> 00:25:04.529 The other question that came in this week was 00:25:04.529 --> 00:25:11.269 from Rich, N1CW, and he wants to get a tribe 00:25:11.269 --> 00:25:16.589 involved in ham radio. that isn't currently active 00:25:16.589 --> 00:25:21.410 and so he was asking for some pointers on how 00:25:21.410 --> 00:25:26.210 he might be able to initiate that momentum to 00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:31.029 get a tribe actively involved in ham radio. Well, 00:25:31.029 --> 00:25:33.230 I guess with that question, Neil, I would have 00:25:33.230 --> 00:25:34.950 some follow up questions and the first one would 00:25:34.950 --> 00:25:38.529 be, you know, obviously, if is he a member of 00:25:38.529 --> 00:25:41.450 that tribal nation? Is he aware of other individuals 00:25:41.450 --> 00:25:46.009 who are federally recognized members of that 00:25:46.009 --> 00:25:48.569 tribal nation? And if so, have they talked amongst 00:25:48.569 --> 00:25:52.190 themselves about all together going and talking 00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:54.809 to that tribal council about what it is they 00:25:54.809 --> 00:25:59.220 want to do, what it is they want to set up? Normally, 00:25:59.259 --> 00:26:00.960 what I've found when we've talked to some of 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.000 the tribal nations here in Arizona is when one 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.319 person goes in and talks to the tribal council, 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.160 they haven't had any luck. When they get, you 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:14.039 know, four, five, six, seven, even ten. individuals 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.220 together who are all licensed operators and they 00:26:16.220 --> 00:26:18.720 go in there together and present and say, hey, 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:20.839 you know, we want to represent such and such 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:24.599 tribe as your tribal amateur radio group. We're 00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:26.819 all tribal members, you know, here's what it 00:26:26.819 --> 00:26:29.700 involves. I've seen tribal councils approve it 00:26:29.700 --> 00:26:32.400 right away with no questions even being asked. 00:26:32.900 --> 00:26:34.940 So, you know, I would ask that individual to 00:26:34.940 --> 00:26:38.200 email me, let me know, you know, some of the, 00:26:38.339 --> 00:26:40.279 you know, if he knows if other members of that 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:43.259 tribe are licensed, you know, if they are. then 00:26:43.259 --> 00:26:45.779 I would start talking amongst themselves. But 00:26:45.779 --> 00:26:49.380 he can email me directly, and I'll get the follow 00:26:49.380 --> 00:26:52.180 -up information I need, and then go from there. 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:57.019 OK, very good. 812 -NATAM -1 is the phone number 00:26:57.019 --> 00:26:59.680 if you would like to join the conversation here 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.440 with Nathan, N7NAN, with the National Tribal 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:08.279 Amateur Radio Association. 812 -NATAM -1, 812 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:14.940 -638. 4261, we will take your call. We do have 00:27:14.940 --> 00:27:17.359 some time here for some calls and we've got a 00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.720 couple of other things that we could talk about 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:24.119 here. What are some of the responses that you've 00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:28.039 been involved with that have needed Ham Radio 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:34.099 to be the main communications choice? Well, that's 00:27:34.099 --> 00:27:35.880 a really good question, Neil. When I was working 00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:40.170 for the Wallopi Tribe, Back in 2012 we had a 00:27:40.170 --> 00:27:43.470 major wildfire that happened in between the community 00:27:43.470 --> 00:27:46.490 of Peach Springs which is the tribal seat and 00:27:46.490 --> 00:27:48.390 Grand Canyon West where the skywalk is and it's 00:27:48.390 --> 00:27:51.190 a very desolate road. There's very few houses 00:27:51.190 --> 00:27:55.650 out there, very mountainous terrain and there 00:27:55.650 --> 00:27:58.490 was very limited communications. I just happened 00:27:58.490 --> 00:28:00.890 to be working that day when the fire kicked off 00:28:00.890 --> 00:28:04.049 so my chief asked me to drive up there along 00:28:04.049 --> 00:28:07.589 with the fire department. We got about, and that 00:28:07.589 --> 00:28:09.450 road between Peach Springs and Grand Canyon West 00:28:09.450 --> 00:28:12.190 is about 52 miles. And so we got about halfway 00:28:12.190 --> 00:28:16.150 up there and everybody had lost communications. 00:28:16.769 --> 00:28:18.549 Well, fortunately for me, I had my mag mount 00:28:18.549 --> 00:28:21.130 sitting in inside my police vehicle. So I stopped, 00:28:21.589 --> 00:28:24.289 put the mag mount up on top, connected the HT 00:28:24.289 --> 00:28:28.390 and had my dispatch frequencies already programmed 00:28:28.390 --> 00:28:30.869 in there. Because I had the programming cables 00:28:30.869 --> 00:28:36.480 with me, I was able to, program the fire frequencies 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.980 into my radio right away and was able to talk 00:28:40.980 --> 00:28:43.359 to their dispatch as well and was able to pass 00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.059 messages along from the fire chief who was the 00:28:46.059 --> 00:28:48.059 incident commander back to their dispatch when 00:28:48.059 --> 00:28:53.200 their radios didn't work. So there's all kinds 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:57.099 of opportunities and other stories like that 00:28:57.099 --> 00:29:02.720 where ham radio can play a big role and so hopefully 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.420 If you're involved in a tribe or you want to 00:29:07.420 --> 00:29:11.019 help out with that, you'll check out the Facebook 00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:16.240 page and Twitter feed and email Nathan and give 00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:20.019 some help there. So also Nathan, what's your 00:29:20.019 --> 00:29:23.660 plan for the future of NTA -RA? Where do you 00:29:23.660 --> 00:29:27.839 see this going? What do you hope to accomplish 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:31.240 with this organization in the future? That's 00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.400 another really good question, Neil. When we put 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.299 the organization together, we developed three 00:29:37.299 --> 00:29:40.460 areas that we wanted to touch on. And we've already 00:29:40.460 --> 00:29:42.319 addressed two of those. That was to be able to 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:46.839 provide equipment to tribal nations, also provide 00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:51.099 licensing and testing classes to. members of 00:29:51.099 --> 00:29:53.440 tribal nations or tribal nations themselves that 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:54.880 are interested. The third one that we wanted 00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.579 to do was the STEM stuff, so the science, technology, 00:29:57.819 --> 00:29:59.880 engineering, and mathematics, and we really wanted 00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:02.059 to bring amateur radio into the tribal schools. 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.960 One of the examples I use is John Harrington, 00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.619 who's an astronaut, is a member of a tribal nation, 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:10.460 although he's not a licensed ham radio operator. 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.079 When I go out into some of these communities 00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:16.849 and talk to their schools, I use John Harrington 00:30:16.849 --> 00:30:18.670 as an example and I say, look, you know what, 00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:21.470 by bringing ham radio into your schools and getting 00:30:21.470 --> 00:30:24.470 your students involved, you know, it can lead 00:30:24.470 --> 00:30:28.390 to that sort of career. I've given examples of 00:30:28.390 --> 00:30:31.390 Barry Goldwater. I've given examples from here 00:30:31.390 --> 00:30:34.569 in Phoenix, Lou Grubb, who was a well -known 00:30:34.569 --> 00:30:37.609 auto dealership owner here in the Phoenix metropolitan 00:30:37.609 --> 00:30:39.890 area. He was a licensed amateur radio operator. 00:30:40.089 --> 00:30:41.490 I've brought up a lot of those famous people 00:30:41.490 --> 00:30:45.299 and said, through the STEM, program and and through 00:30:45.299 --> 00:30:47.480 amateur radio in your school that can be some 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.400 of these kids and So those those are our three 00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:54.880 big areas that we focus on Moving forward what 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.960 we would like to do is have at least one if not 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.319 more licensed operators within all 567 tribal 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.140 nations or a member, you know licensed member 00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:09.420 or members from all 567 tribal nations, so they're 00:31:09.420 --> 00:31:12.359 all represented within NTA RA and to have the 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:14.539 membership up over a thousand within the next 00:31:14.539 --> 00:31:17.819 five years. Just so that, you know, as we move 00:31:17.819 --> 00:31:20.799 forward we can say, yeah, we are, you know, this 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.039 group and we do have membership from all 567 00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.319 tribal nations here and, you know, take it from 00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.259 that and start, you know, nets for different 00:31:30.259 --> 00:31:31.980 areas, you know, like the west, western half 00:31:31.980 --> 00:31:34.900 of the US, midwest, east coast, that sort of 00:31:34.900 --> 00:31:38.640 stuff. each different group can have their own 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.079 net and then we'll have, you know, a fourth net 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:42.920 where everybody can come in and it's a national 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:44.980 one and that's what we like to do moving forward. 00:31:46.700 --> 00:31:50.880 Okay, sounds great. 812 -NET -HAM -1 is the phone 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.500 number, 812 -NET -HAM -1. You can also tweet 00:31:54.500 --> 00:31:59.009 your questions at HamTalk Live. So we have a 00:31:59.009 --> 00:32:01.990 few minutes left here. We can check them and 00:32:01.990 --> 00:32:06.329 wait for your questions. So send us a tweet or 00:32:06.329 --> 00:32:11.769 give us a call 812 -NATAM -1 with your questions 00:32:11.769 --> 00:32:15.130 about the National Tribal Amateur Radio Association. 00:32:15.630 --> 00:32:18.650 Now you mentioned that you do have a vice president 00:32:18.650 --> 00:32:24.410 out in Virginia, so you do cover the whole country. 00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:32.140 We do, yes. So, Eric Evans, K4NDN, he's in, I 00:32:32.140 --> 00:32:34.640 believe, Elkton, Virginia. Of course, I'm out 00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.599 here in Phoenix. And then we have an individual 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.640 who monitors our social media for us. She's up 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.519 in New York. So, we're spread out all over the 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.160 place. Again, National Tribal Emergency Management 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:49.119 Council, who we fall under. A lot of their licensed 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.119 operators are up in the Pacific Northwest. So, 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:56.799 Oregon... Washington, Montana, Idaho area. A 00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:58.700 good chunk of our membership is from up in that 00:32:58.700 --> 00:33:01.180 part of the country. We've got several members 00:33:01.180 --> 00:33:06.940 from Oklahoma, some of the tribes out there, 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.180 just all over the place right now. But as far 00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:13.200 as the leadership goes, yeah, I'm here in Phoenix, 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.819 and then Eric is out in Virginia. And with that, 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.900 Neil, I know we're pressed for time. I just wanted 00:33:18.900 --> 00:33:22.720 to mention to everybody that September 19th through 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.319 the 23rd, the National Tribal Emergency Management 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.059 Council is going to have their annual conference 00:33:27.059 --> 00:33:29.220 out at the Tachi Nation, which is in Lemoore, 00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:31.960 California, about 50 miles south of Fresno. And 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:33.559 this year is going to be the first year ever 00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.259 that we will have a special event station up 00:33:36.259 --> 00:33:40.400 and running the entire week. We haven't worked 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:41.940 out the frequencies yet. We're still discussing 00:33:41.940 --> 00:33:44.339 that. But again, that'll go out on our social 00:33:44.339 --> 00:33:46.440 media stuff. We do have a special one by one 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:50.140 call sign, which is NAV. Also during that week 00:33:50.140 --> 00:33:54.079 on the 21st, we got contacted by our partners 00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:57.779 at DHS Office of Emergency Communications, as 00:33:57.779 --> 00:33:59.680 well as a FEMA exercise office. And they've partnered 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.799 with NTARA and the National Tribal Emergency 00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:08.230 Management Council to do the first ever. tribal 00:34:08.230 --> 00:34:10.650 emergency communications exercise. And so what 00:34:10.650 --> 00:34:12.570 we're going to do is we're going to pass messages 00:34:12.570 --> 00:34:15.670 from California, hopefully all the way to New 00:34:15.670 --> 00:34:19.090 York, over about a three or four hour period. 00:34:19.369 --> 00:34:22.210 And so we're looking for relay stations all throughout 00:34:22.210 --> 00:34:25.090 the country. Anybody that wants to participate 00:34:25.090 --> 00:34:27.030 in that, again, they can email me and get involved 00:34:27.030 --> 00:34:29.409 that way. But during that week of the 19th through 00:34:29.409 --> 00:34:32.090 the 23rd, we definitely like to work as many 00:34:32.090 --> 00:34:33.730 people as we can from the special event station. 00:34:33.909 --> 00:34:37.360 We ordered 500 QSL cards that look really, really 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.300 good. And so those are going to go out to the 00:34:40.300 --> 00:34:43.440 first 500 contacts that we make. And I just, 00:34:43.619 --> 00:34:45.019 I look forward to talking to as many people as 00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:47.320 we can during that week. Okay. Give us those 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:50.780 dates again. It's September 19th through the 00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:54.800 23rd. Okay. Very good. And it seems like that 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.880 was on amateur radio news line. And I think I 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.039 read that story as a matter of fact. So yes, 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:06.079 you did. Yeah. So so I got it twice here. So 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.019 okay, very good. Well, that's a great way for 00:35:09.019 --> 00:35:13.980 people to Join in and help pass messages and 00:35:13.980 --> 00:35:17.960 kind of show what ham radio can do so hopefully 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.880 our listeners out there can get involved with 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:27.559 that and Let's go over the contact information 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.340 one more time. We'll take one more standby here 00:35:30.340 --> 00:35:34.460 for any comments or questions on Twitter. Or 00:35:34.460 --> 00:35:38.360 again, the phone number 812 -NET -HAM -1. But 00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.300 we're just about to wrap things up. So give us 00:35:41.300 --> 00:35:43.480 that contact information one more time, Nathan. 00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.639 So again, my email address is Nathan, N -A -T 00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:57.880 -H -A -N, dot Nixon, N -I -X -O -N, at ITCAonline 00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.619 .com. And the second half of that is I as in 00:36:00.619 --> 00:36:04.900 Ida, T as in Tom, C as in Charles, A as in Adam, 00:36:06.179 --> 00:36:10.320 online .com. And then, of course, we have our 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:14.760 Facebook page, which is NTARA -National Tribal 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.739 Amateur Radio Association on Facebook, and at 00:36:17.739 --> 00:36:20.440 National Tribal Ham, and National is abbreviated 00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:24.860 N -A -T -L on Twitter. And then on QRZ, they 00:36:24.860 --> 00:36:29.860 can look us up at W7NTV. All right. All great 00:36:29.860 --> 00:36:33.139 ways to get a hold of the National Tribal Amateur 00:36:33.139 --> 00:36:36.619 Radio Association. And I want to thank you for 00:36:36.619 --> 00:36:40.960 all of your work that you do in the emergency 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:46.099 management mode and your work in law enforcement 00:36:46.099 --> 00:36:48.920 previously and all the work that you're doing 00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:53.289 with NTA -RA. And I wish you a lot of luck. Hopefully, 00:36:53.309 --> 00:36:56.250 this will get some more people involved with 00:36:56.250 --> 00:37:01.170 the NTA -RA. Thank you. I appreciate that. All 00:37:01.170 --> 00:37:04.030 right. Well, that's a wrap for this week's edition 00:37:04.030 --> 00:37:07.010 of HamTalk Live. I'd like to thank my guest, 00:37:07.150 --> 00:37:10.690 Nathan Nixon, N7NAN, and all the callers and 00:37:10.690 --> 00:37:13.289 listeners out there in cyberspace, and invite 00:37:13.289 --> 00:37:16.630 you back next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern 00:37:16.630 --> 00:37:20.909 Time, when Valerie Holtzfeld, NV9L, will be here 00:37:20.909 --> 00:37:25.650 to share some of her ideas on DXing and analyzing 00:37:25.650 --> 00:37:30.449 your contest logs. For a list of all of our upcoming 00:37:30.449 --> 00:37:34.610 guests, visit HamTalkLive .com. So for now, this 00:37:34.610 --> 00:37:39.349 is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and 00:37:39.349 --> 00:38:00.769 may the good DX be yours. Thanks for watching!