WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.080 This episode of HamTalk Live is brought to you 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:06.559 by Tower Electronics. For connectors, cables, 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:13.880 and more, call 920 -435 -2973 or visit pl -259 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:18.320 .com and by The Ham Station. Get your new radio 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:24.440 or antenna by calling 800 -729 -4373 or go to 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:59.219 hamstation .com. Hey good evening everyone it's 00:00:59.219 --> 00:01:02.289 Thursday and you know what that means it's Time 00:01:02.289 --> 00:01:05.370 for another episode of HamTalk Live. This time 00:01:05.370 --> 00:01:10.650 it's episode number 25, Youth and School Clubs, 00:01:11.250 --> 00:01:14.930 recorded live on Thursday, August 4th, 2016. 00:01:15.709 --> 00:01:18.909 I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, and thanks 00:01:18.909 --> 00:01:23.530 for tuning in to this episode of HamTalk Live. 00:01:24.769 --> 00:01:29.049 Tonight, I'm going solo. I'll take your calls 00:01:29.049 --> 00:01:33.280 about getting young people into ham radio and 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:37.439 starting up the club in your local school and 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:41.739 We'll take your calls live in just a few minutes 00:01:41.739 --> 00:01:46.659 last week on the show Valerie Holtzfeld in V9l 00:01:46.659 --> 00:01:49.799 was here to talk about how to work those big 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:54.420 -time DXpeditions, and analyzing your logs. If 00:01:54.420 --> 00:01:56.680 you missed the show, you can listen anytime at 00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:00.359 HamTalkLive .com or on iTunes, Stitcher, Google 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:04.019 Play, TuneIn, or SoundCloud. We're listed on 00:02:04.019 --> 00:02:07.480 iNet Radio, and we're also available on YouTube. 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:12.240 Well, man, I tell you what, you take a few days 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:16.800 off to go on vacation. Just got back last night. 00:02:17.050 --> 00:02:21.909 late from a trip to Florida and the Ham radio 00:02:21.909 --> 00:02:25.610 world just is full of all kinds of things going 00:02:25.610 --> 00:02:29.629 on so I tried to stay up with that as best I 00:02:29.629 --> 00:02:33.969 could while it was gone but Hamvention has a 00:02:33.969 --> 00:02:39.169 new home now if you haven't heard yet they're 00:02:39.169 --> 00:02:41.830 moving to the Green County Fairgrounds in Xenia 00:02:41.830 --> 00:02:45.069 just east of Dayton so we'll hear more about 00:02:45.069 --> 00:02:47.169 that later on. I haven't even had a chance to 00:02:47.169 --> 00:02:50.770 check that out myself, so hopefully I can take 00:02:50.770 --> 00:02:54.349 a look at that soon, and there's some stuff running 00:02:54.349 --> 00:02:59.050 around out there on the internet. I believe Jeff, 00:02:59.050 --> 00:03:02.210 KE9V, has some insights on that that I hope to 00:03:02.210 --> 00:03:06.050 read soon. So yeah, new home for Hamvention, 00:03:06.169 --> 00:03:11.550 and coming up on Newsline tomorrow, actually. 00:03:11.810 --> 00:03:14.860 It comes out tomorrow. I have an interview with 00:03:14.860 --> 00:03:19.039 Sam Rose, KC2LRC, who he and Sterling Coffey 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:23.120 in Zero SSC were the first United States Hams 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:28.479 to attend the Youngsters on the Air event over 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:31.800 in Austria. So there's that that just happened. 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:35.719 uh... and it's going to be featured on news line 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:39.240 tomorrow as well as the story about convention 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:42.879 moving and also the uh... bill pasternak young 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:46.379 ham of the year award sponsored by image radio 00:03:46.379 --> 00:03:50.180 news line uh... that was uh... the winner of 00:03:50.180 --> 00:03:52.500 that was released this week and so congratulations 00:03:52.500 --> 00:04:00.009 to skyler KD0WHB. He's from the Denver area and 00:04:00.009 --> 00:04:03.330 I've met Skyler a couple of times and he's a 00:04:03.330 --> 00:04:06.629 great choice for that. Of course I was kind of 00:04:06.629 --> 00:04:11.069 rooting for Ryan, one of my students, KD90AB, 00:04:11.849 --> 00:04:14.610 because he's done an awful lot of work and an 00:04:14.610 --> 00:04:17.870 awful lot of stuff and there's just a lot of 00:04:17.870 --> 00:04:21.610 good candidates this year. But Skyler's the winner 00:04:21.610 --> 00:04:26.149 of that KD0WHP so congratulations to him and 00:04:26.149 --> 00:04:29.170 hopefully we can schedule a chance for him to 00:04:29.170 --> 00:04:32.850 be on the show here at some point. So be sure 00:04:32.850 --> 00:04:36.529 to catch up on all that stuff on Newsline tomorrow. 00:04:36.589 --> 00:04:39.889 Amateur Radio Newsline at arnewsline .org or 00:04:39.889 --> 00:04:43.949 a repeater near you. There's a lot that's happened 00:04:43.949 --> 00:04:45.970 this week so if you want to catch up on news 00:04:45.970 --> 00:04:50.230 that's a great way to do that. Okay, so tonight 00:04:50.230 --> 00:04:53.269 again, we're talking about kids. We've got the 00:04:53.269 --> 00:04:55.410 the young ham of the year thing the maximum award 00:04:55.410 --> 00:04:58.829 winner Oh, yeah, I forgot about the maximum award 00:04:58.829 --> 00:05:04.069 winner Chris over in Westchester, Ohio and let 00:05:04.069 --> 00:05:07.529 me pull up his Call sign here because I forgot 00:05:07.529 --> 00:05:15.500 to write it down Chris brought kd8 YVJ. He's 00:05:15.500 --> 00:05:18.879 13 years old and he and his dad are involved 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:22.160 with the Voice of America group over there in 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.399 Westchester, the Westchester Image Radio Club. 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.300 So congratulations to him on winning the Hiram 00:05:27.300 --> 00:05:30.259 Percy Maxim Award. And again, that's going to 00:05:30.259 --> 00:05:33.139 be on the news line tomorrow. So be sure to check 00:05:33.139 --> 00:05:37.160 that out. 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We all started out with 00:07:05.329 --> 00:07:07.930 nothing and still have most of it. You're listening 00:07:07.930 --> 00:07:21.290 to HamTalk Live with Neil Rapp. Welcome back 00:07:21.290 --> 00:07:24.769 to HamTalk Live. The ham station has you covered 00:07:24.769 --> 00:07:29.360 for both your new and used equipment. give Dan 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:35.180 or Jeff a call at 800 -729 -4373 or visit HamStation 00:07:35.180 --> 00:07:38.980 .com. Be sure to listen to HamTalk Live every 00:07:38.980 --> 00:07:42.379 Thursday night 9 p .m. Eastern Time right here 00:07:42.379 --> 00:07:45.339 at HamTalkLive .com and be sure to check out 00:07:45.339 --> 00:07:48.040 our Facebook page and our Twitter feed. Just 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.459 search for HamTalk Live. We try to put some links 00:07:51.459 --> 00:07:54.220 up there to some things and show what's coming 00:07:54.220 --> 00:07:58.860 up in the future. So normally at this time I 00:07:58.860 --> 00:08:03.060 would be reading the biography of tonight's guest, 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:08.360 but since that's me, I won't bore you with all 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.860 the details. The demo episode of the show, episode 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:15.300 number zero, does a pretty good job of that. 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:19.379 So I'll leave it up to that, and my QRZ page, 00:08:19.740 --> 00:08:22.040 you can check that out if you want. But the short 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.500 version of the story is that I became licensed 00:08:24.500 --> 00:08:28.470 when I was five years old. In fact, I just celebrated 00:08:28.470 --> 00:08:33.110 my 40th ham -iversary a couple weeks ago on July 00:08:33.110 --> 00:08:36.610 17th. I was the youngest ham radio operator in 00:08:36.610 --> 00:08:39.330 the world at that time. Since then, those records 00:08:39.330 --> 00:08:43.429 have all been broken for novice technician general 00:08:43.429 --> 00:08:48.409 and advanced. And so, you know, I don't have 00:08:48.409 --> 00:08:51.789 those records anymore, but I've stuck with it. 00:08:51.809 --> 00:08:55.509 I've been... Active in ham radio that entire 00:08:55.509 --> 00:08:58.490 time and I became a chemistry teacher and started 00:08:58.490 --> 00:09:01.450 a ham radio club at Harrison High School in Evansville 00:09:01.450 --> 00:09:04.169 Indiana where I was teaching And then when I 00:09:04.169 --> 00:09:07.370 moved here to Bloomington, Indiana I restarted 00:09:07.370 --> 00:09:10.669 a club that had actually been in existence back 00:09:10.669 --> 00:09:14.610 in the 40s and and again in the in the 70s At 00:09:14.610 --> 00:09:16.470 Bloomington High School South in Bloomington, 00:09:16.470 --> 00:09:21.629 Indiana So we got that going again, and I was 00:09:21.629 --> 00:09:26.720 lucky enough to be awarded the 2004 ARRL Professional 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:30.220 Educator of the Year Award. And, you know, one 00:09:30.220 --> 00:09:33.100 of the things that I get asked a lot is how do 00:09:33.100 --> 00:09:36.580 you get kids interested in ham radio? You know, 00:09:36.620 --> 00:09:39.419 people will ask me, hey, you know, my son, my 00:09:39.419 --> 00:09:44.700 daughter, my grandchild, you know, I want to 00:09:44.700 --> 00:09:47.419 get them into ham radio. How do I do that? And 00:09:47.419 --> 00:09:51.009 so that's what tonight's show is about. I don't 00:09:51.009 --> 00:09:53.929 have all the answers but but I've got some some 00:09:53.929 --> 00:09:57.409 ideas for you and I've got some information that 00:09:57.409 --> 00:10:01.690 I can give you and then also a little bit about 00:10:01.690 --> 00:10:05.429 school clubs really into the school club thing 00:10:05.429 --> 00:10:09.389 and so hopefully I can give you some ideas a 00:10:09.389 --> 00:10:13.110 lot of times after the show I end up talking 00:10:13.110 --> 00:10:17.259 to the people who call in or even the guests 00:10:17.259 --> 00:10:19.759 that are on it and they'll ask me about these 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:22.779 things and so there's been a lot of good conversation 00:10:22.779 --> 00:10:25.299 about this but it's usually either before the 00:10:25.299 --> 00:10:28.240 show or after the show uh... so i want to take 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:32.840 tonight out to you uh... focus uh... really on 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:37.100 uh... on youth and and school club thing and 00:10:37.100 --> 00:10:39.919 uh... we're gonna try to did talk about the uh... 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.240 yoda event that was mentioned uh... while ago 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:46.299 that sam and uh... Sterling were able to go. 00:10:46.539 --> 00:10:50.779 That was actually sponsored by IARU. It's region 00:10:50.779 --> 00:10:55.139 one and there's a group of people including them 00:10:55.139 --> 00:10:58.259 and Ward Silver and Glenn Johnson that are trying 00:10:58.259 --> 00:11:04.740 to work to get that here in region two. So we'll 00:11:04.740 --> 00:11:09.799 see how that goes. uh... but uh... that's the 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.919 plan is uh... you know in the near future to 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.940 get that here in the united states as well so 00:11:16.940 --> 00:11:19.000 uh... good luck to them and maybe we'll uh... 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:22.799 we'll do a show just on that uh... in the future 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.240 but uh... tonight uh... again it's about how 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:30.600 to get kids interested in ham radio and rule 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:34.519 number one uh... in getting kids involved in 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:39.440 ham radio is something that may seem a little 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:46.460 counterintuitive. It may seem like the wrong 00:11:46.460 --> 00:11:50.059 way to go to start with, but this is something 00:11:50.059 --> 00:11:53.679 I learned very early on in doing a youth forum 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:57.559 and bringing in some of the experts like Gordon 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:02.210 West and Carol Perry. You know listening to them 00:12:02.210 --> 00:12:04.909 and going to the instructors forum and the youth 00:12:04.909 --> 00:12:09.169 forum and listening to Carol and going to the 00:12:09.169 --> 00:12:16.080 ARRL teacher, educator, professional development 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:20.259 by Mark Spencer, WA8SME and they all pretty much 00:12:20.259 --> 00:12:22.659 have said the same thing and it's something that 00:12:22.659 --> 00:12:25.480 I have found with experience to be true and that 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:30.000 is rule number one is you don't start out pushing 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:36.320 the license exam. Kids getting tested at school 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:40.620 all the time as it is and if you want to get 00:12:40.620 --> 00:12:46.620 kids fired up about ham radio it might work but 00:12:46.620 --> 00:12:52.460 for a lot of kids starting out with hey you get 00:12:52.460 --> 00:12:55.639 to study for something else and you get to go 00:12:55.639 --> 00:13:00.320 take a test it's probably not the best way to 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:05.320 motivate them and introduce them into ham radio. 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:10.860 So the big thing is get them hooked first. And 00:13:10.860 --> 00:13:13.759 I spent an hour on the phone with Deborah Johnson 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:18.080 here not long ago at ARRL and we'll talk a little 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.620 bit more about what's happening there. But I 00:13:21.620 --> 00:13:24.620 was talking about some of these things and you 00:13:24.620 --> 00:13:27.080 know we all kind of agree that's rule number 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:31.580 one. You start out with Getting them on the radio 00:13:31.580 --> 00:13:34.980 and showing them cool stuff and getting them 00:13:34.980 --> 00:13:39.460 involved with the radio Not oh, here's a whole 00:13:39.460 --> 00:13:44.019 bunch of stuff to study and take a test and so 00:13:44.019 --> 00:13:51.179 it may seem kind of Like I said counterintuitive, 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.500 but you want to start them out talking about 00:13:53.639 --> 00:13:57.179 wireless and technology and and how that stuff 00:13:57.179 --> 00:13:59.840 works and even if they don't get a license at 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:03.419 least they know what ham radio is and if they 00:14:03.419 --> 00:14:06.539 understand what ham radio is they're going to 00:14:06.539 --> 00:14:10.980 be more likely to you know support ham radio 00:14:10.980 --> 00:14:15.379 when you know it's you know your homeowners association 00:14:15.379 --> 00:14:18.700 or you know then they have to decide about antennas 00:14:18.700 --> 00:14:21.139 or you're trying to put a station up in a club 00:14:21.139 --> 00:14:26.259 or a school club you know up in a school and 00:14:26.259 --> 00:14:28.299 you know you need permission to do that and the 00:14:28.299 --> 00:14:31.379 principal oh yeah I remember you know I learned 00:14:31.379 --> 00:14:34.399 about ham radio so just because they don't get 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.740 a license doesn't mean that they won't eventually 00:14:37.740 --> 00:14:41.620 that happened with my dad He learned all about 00:14:41.620 --> 00:14:43.700 ham radio when he was in high school and then 00:14:43.700 --> 00:14:46.840 He didn't get his license until a lot later on 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:49.399 in life, and we ended up doing that together 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:51.840 That's one of the ways that I did that at age 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:57.279 five so Don't push the test first okay get them 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:00.039 on the radio get them hooked get them interested 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:06.279 in the technology and Then they can be motivated 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:10.779 by They want to do it themselves, okay? That's 00:15:10.779 --> 00:15:12.919 the big thing when you're young is, you know, 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:14.840 I want to do this for myself. I don't want to 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:17.820 have to have somebody, you know, standing over 00:15:17.820 --> 00:15:20.759 me being a control operator. They want to do 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:25.080 it for themselves. So do that. Filling out QSL 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:30.019 cards requires some knowledge. You got to figure 00:15:30.019 --> 00:15:34.360 out what UTC is. You got to know what modes are 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:39.750 and what RST is. and all those things and call 00:15:39.750 --> 00:15:43.629 signs and what call signs are and so QSL cards 00:15:43.629 --> 00:15:50.309 can be a very valuable educational tool in teaching 00:15:50.309 --> 00:15:54.970 ham radio and it gives them a reason to learn 00:15:54.970 --> 00:15:58.549 what's on the test so that's rule number one 00:15:58.549 --> 00:16:02.490 don't push the test first okay get them involved 00:16:02.490 --> 00:16:07.409 with it and then Now, you know the test is available 00:16:07.409 --> 00:16:10.830 so that you can do this on your own Here's how 00:16:10.830 --> 00:16:14.470 to do that and hopefully they will rule number 00:16:14.470 --> 00:16:19.710 two make a skid This is one that I learned the 00:16:19.710 --> 00:16:24.769 hard way But rule number two is make a skid sitting 00:16:24.769 --> 00:16:28.909 there for an hour spinning the knob Trying to 00:16:28.909 --> 00:16:33.149 find someone to contact is probably not real 00:16:33.149 --> 00:16:38.919 exciting to a child that's looking to get into 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:43.820 ham radio. Find someone and make a scheduled 00:16:43.820 --> 00:16:47.820 contact so that there's somebody on the other 00:16:47.820 --> 00:16:50.279 end that's going to be kid friendly that's going 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:53.259 to talk about things that they like to talk about. 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:57.279 I always joke that the three things in ham radio 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.559 to talk about are the weather, gardens, and ailments. 00:17:01.610 --> 00:17:04.950 Kids are probably not going to want to make small 00:17:04.950 --> 00:17:08.250 talk and talk about weather gardens and ailments 00:17:08.250 --> 00:17:10.970 So have them you know have somebody on there 00:17:10.970 --> 00:17:12.769 that can talk to them about what they're doing 00:17:12.769 --> 00:17:16.190 in school and what their their interests are 00:17:16.190 --> 00:17:21.349 and Most importantly have someone there So that 00:17:21.349 --> 00:17:24.730 you're not spinning the knob for an hour trying 00:17:24.730 --> 00:17:27.630 to find someone to work because that's pretty 00:17:27.630 --> 00:17:31.400 boring Okay, so have somebody there ready to 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:36.619 go. A script a lot of times will help with mic 00:17:36.619 --> 00:17:39.000 fright and that's why School Club Roundup has 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:42.380 worked so well with our school club is that it's 00:17:42.380 --> 00:17:44.779 all scripted it's all on a piece of paper they 00:17:44.779 --> 00:17:47.539 fill in the blanks we teach them how to fill 00:17:47.539 --> 00:17:49.799 in the blanks and then after it's over we teach 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:52.500 them how to fill out the qsl card so they're 00:17:52.500 --> 00:17:54.779 learning a lot of the things that are going to 00:17:54.779 --> 00:17:59.680 end up on the technician exam so it pays off. 00:17:59.819 --> 00:18:05.019 Rule three, for school clubs, have some kind 00:18:05.019 --> 00:18:09.299 of faculty connection. You know, at Bloomington 00:18:09.299 --> 00:18:13.039 South, I'm a ham and I'm a teacher, and so I 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:18.299 can serve both of those roles. I can be in contact 00:18:18.299 --> 00:18:20.559 with the kids and have a relationship with the 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:26.789 kids. But also, I have the... contacts within 00:18:26.789 --> 00:18:29.369 the ham radio community and the equipment and 00:18:29.369 --> 00:18:32.910 the know -how. That isn't always going to happen 00:18:32.910 --> 00:18:36.549 in a school so it's important that you have some 00:18:36.549 --> 00:18:39.210 kind of a familiar face. Maybe it's not a ham 00:18:39.210 --> 00:18:42.349 but it's a teacher that's a familiar face that 00:18:42.349 --> 00:18:45.789 the kids can trust and be kind of a point of 00:18:45.789 --> 00:18:48.490 contact and who knows maybe you'll get that faculty 00:18:48.490 --> 00:18:53.190 member to be a ham after they see you know what 00:18:53.190 --> 00:18:56.390 fun it is and what all you can do with it. So 00:18:56.390 --> 00:18:59.710 have a familiar face there. Kids are just a lot 00:18:59.710 --> 00:19:02.109 less likely to go to a club meeting or a test 00:19:02.109 --> 00:19:05.869 session in unfamiliar territory. I like to do 00:19:05.869 --> 00:19:09.470 testing sessions at school so that way it's in 00:19:09.470 --> 00:19:11.910 familiar territory and they're more at ease. 00:19:12.809 --> 00:19:16.910 Teachers Institute at ARRL is a fabulous opportunity 00:19:16.910 --> 00:19:20.109 to teach teachers how to do ham radio. So if 00:19:20.109 --> 00:19:22.970 you can encourage people you know, that aren't 00:19:22.970 --> 00:19:27.569 even hams, but teach and are interested in science 00:19:27.569 --> 00:19:29.769 and technology and that kind of thing, even if 00:19:29.769 --> 00:19:33.769 that's not their field of teaching, you know, 00:19:33.910 --> 00:19:37.250 get them interested in the ARRL Teachers Institute. 00:19:37.569 --> 00:19:41.609 It's a great week, all kinds of resources you 00:19:41.609 --> 00:19:44.750 get to bring back, and all kinds of great information, 00:19:44.890 --> 00:19:48.869 so have that connection there, okay? And rule 00:19:48.869 --> 00:19:52.470 number four, don't do everything for the make 00:19:52.470 --> 00:19:55.170 it a learning opportunity whenever it's safe 00:19:55.170 --> 00:19:58.130 to do so and this is something I struggled with 00:19:58.130 --> 00:20:00.789 is I wanted to just I'll just give me the knob 00:20:00.789 --> 00:20:04.009 and I'll find you know somebody now they need 00:20:04.009 --> 00:20:06.690 to turn the knob and find somebody or I'll just 00:20:06.690 --> 00:20:09.509 turn this up for you no they need to know where 00:20:09.509 --> 00:20:11.890 the volume knob is they need to know where those 00:20:11.890 --> 00:20:15.529 things are and so you use that as a teachable 00:20:15.529 --> 00:20:18.970 moment you try to let them do as much as they 00:20:18.970 --> 00:20:23.269 can i i'm getting a lot better at this but i 00:20:23.269 --> 00:20:27.250 i try to really back off and say okay here is 00:20:27.250 --> 00:20:31.230 what needs to take place do it and give them 00:20:31.230 --> 00:20:35.009 a chance to try it give them a chance to figure 00:20:35.009 --> 00:20:38.009 it out and then you can help them along the way 00:20:38.190 --> 00:20:44.130 So a good Elmer is just a big, big, big thing. 00:20:44.329 --> 00:20:46.970 You know, have a good Elmer there that can communicate 00:20:46.970 --> 00:20:51.769 and help out with those kinds of things. Now, 00:20:53.369 --> 00:20:55.789 as far as resources, you know, a lot of people 00:20:55.789 --> 00:20:57.869 will ask me, well how in the world did you pass 00:20:57.869 --> 00:21:02.190 your test at age five? Well, you know, back then 00:21:02.190 --> 00:21:04.630 they didn't have the questions and answers published 00:21:04.630 --> 00:21:08.160 even, so we had to make our own questions and 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.660 answers and so what my mom would do is she would 00:21:10.660 --> 00:21:14.019 type these up on little note cards. She'd type 00:21:14.019 --> 00:21:16.720 up a question and she'd type up an answer on 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:20.180 separate note cards and so I played kind of a 00:21:20.180 --> 00:21:22.640 matching game with it and matched the answer 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.640 up with the question and then tried to understand 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.720 you know why that answer was the right one for 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.680 that question. and kind of made a game into it. 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:36.140 So the flash card thing really worked well for 00:21:36.140 --> 00:21:40.039 me. Now those questions and answers are published. 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:43.339 So you can do the same thing. You can have a 00:21:43.339 --> 00:21:46.539 flash card that has the question on it and then 00:21:46.539 --> 00:21:51.319 you have the possible answers and you match up 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:55.900 the question and the answer. So that's how I 00:21:55.900 --> 00:22:03.009 did it at five years old. and it worked so that's 00:22:03.009 --> 00:22:06.990 one suggestion that I would make and then you 00:22:06.990 --> 00:22:09.549 know a lot of people ask about resources because 00:22:09.549 --> 00:22:11.950 some of the license manuals and especially in 00:22:11.950 --> 00:22:14.109 the past haven't been real kid -friendly they're 00:22:14.109 --> 00:22:17.910 getting better I believe but there are some other 00:22:17.910 --> 00:22:22.450 materials out there one book that I usually bring 00:22:22.450 --> 00:22:25.970 up for especially for the real younger crowd 00:22:25.970 --> 00:22:29.250 you know the preteens and that kind of thing. 00:22:30.049 --> 00:22:32.710 There is a book called Ride the Airwaves with 00:22:32.710 --> 00:22:37.650 Alpha and Zulu and Alpha is ALFA instead of PHA. 00:22:38.690 --> 00:22:41.650 Ride the Airwaves with Alpha and Zulu. John Abbott, 00:22:41.690 --> 00:22:48.410 K6YB wrote this. Now this was last updated in 00:22:48.410 --> 00:22:53.819 2000 so it's 16 years old. It hasn't been updated 00:22:53.819 --> 00:22:58.740 for the new license exams, so it's not going 00:22:58.740 --> 00:23:02.740 to You know be the only source that you want 00:23:02.740 --> 00:23:07.460 to use to prepare kids for the test It's still 00:23:07.460 --> 00:23:10.579 available on Amazon if you go on Amazon you can 00:23:10.579 --> 00:23:13.440 still find some and find some used ones even 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:17.609 on there But just be warned, it is outdated, 00:23:18.170 --> 00:23:20.869 so the question pool has changed several times. 00:23:21.170 --> 00:23:23.690 But the principles are still there, so it's still 00:23:23.690 --> 00:23:27.309 good reading. And of course, a lot of kids, they 00:23:27.309 --> 00:23:29.569 will just get on and take the online practice 00:23:29.569 --> 00:23:32.430 tests over and over again until they're getting 00:23:32.430 --> 00:23:34.930 a passing grade. And there's several of those. 00:23:34.950 --> 00:23:41.049 Some of our favorites are copacetic flows, AA9PW. 00:23:41.650 --> 00:23:45.450 We like the one on QRZ, but we found the randomization 00:23:45.450 --> 00:23:47.890 isn't quite as good as we'd like. We seem to 00:23:47.890 --> 00:23:50.509 get the same ones over and over again. It doesn't 00:23:50.509 --> 00:23:54.990 hit everything. So I kind of steer kids more 00:23:54.990 --> 00:23:59.670 toward the AA9PW one or copacetic flows. And 00:23:59.670 --> 00:24:02.230 of course, HamTest Online is a great resource 00:24:02.230 --> 00:24:05.329 too. Now it is a subscription -based thing. You 00:24:05.329 --> 00:24:08.319 pay for it for a year. But it remembers which 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:10.579 ones you get right, which ones you don't. It 00:24:10.579 --> 00:24:15.140 has explanations and has a lot of good stuff 00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:17.140 there. So, you know, if you're interested in 00:24:17.140 --> 00:24:20.420 that, talk to Pi over at HamtestOnline .com. 00:24:20.619 --> 00:24:22.519 They're the ones that put out the Ham Radio Saves 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:25.900 Lives bumper stickers and everything. But that 00:24:25.900 --> 00:24:30.059 is a paid service. But it does have all the explanations 00:24:30.059 --> 00:24:34.630 and it learns you. It learns as you go. as you 00:24:34.630 --> 00:24:39.089 learn, and so that's a good resource too. One 00:24:39.089 --> 00:24:43.049 that I kind of forgot about is ICOM. ICOM has 00:24:43.049 --> 00:24:46.849 the adventures of Zach and Max comic books and 00:24:46.849 --> 00:24:49.769 coloring books, and that'll help with a lot of 00:24:49.769 --> 00:24:53.230 concepts and some terminology. Now again, it's 00:24:53.230 --> 00:24:55.869 not question -answer, question -answer, question 00:24:55.869 --> 00:24:58.730 -answer. It's not kill and drill, as we like 00:24:58.730 --> 00:25:01.829 to call it in the educational world. But it does 00:25:01.829 --> 00:25:06.309 have some of those concepts in there. So check 00:25:06.309 --> 00:25:09.170 out the Adventures of Zack and Max comic books. 00:25:09.309 --> 00:25:12.690 It's on the ICOM website. It's free. So just 00:25:12.690 --> 00:25:17.450 search ICOM Adventures of Zack and Max or ICOM 00:25:17.450 --> 00:25:21.990 comic book. And there's some good stuff there 00:25:21.990 --> 00:25:25.289 for the younger crowd. The license manuals are 00:25:25.289 --> 00:25:27.509 getting better. Of course, the big two are Gordon 00:25:27.509 --> 00:25:32.839 West and the ARRL. we kind of have pushed the 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:35.220 Gordon West book a little bit more but the ARL 00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:37.839 book has kind of been rewritten and so it's a 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.880 little bit friendlier too so I think it's kind 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:46.240 of a personal preference on on those but they're 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.859 fairly friendly they're not super kid friendly 00:25:48.859 --> 00:25:53.420 but they're pretty easy so if you pair it with 00:25:53.420 --> 00:25:55.640 some of these other things that I've talked about 00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:58.500 that could work and by the way the Bloomington 00:25:58.500 --> 00:26:04.500 High School South website is k9sou .org the k9sou 00:26:04.500 --> 00:26:09.160 website has links to a lot of all of this stuff 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:12.500 so if you're interested in that you can you can 00:26:12.500 --> 00:26:17.799 go over there now on the forefront here of things 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:22.200 in the future ARRL is Just announced in the last 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.119 few months that they're developing a new curriculum 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:28.900 And there's been a group that's already been 00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:31.940 working on some of this stuff But they're trying 00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:35.619 to put together a complete curriculum for schools 00:26:35.619 --> 00:26:41.400 to teach ham radio, so A double RL is working 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:44.160 on that it'll be interesting to see what some 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:46.660 of those things are I've contributed a few things 00:26:46.660 --> 00:26:51.259 to that and done some consulting on it, but it'll 00:26:51.259 --> 00:26:54.039 be interesting to see what they come up with 00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:56.500 for that. And I know they're looking for donations 00:26:56.500 --> 00:27:00.839 to fund some of that stuff. So the other thing 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.539 at ARRL is the Education and Technology Program 00:27:03.539 --> 00:27:06.119 grants. They have a station grant, so you can 00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:09.579 apply for a grant and get a complete station. 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:11.960 You can get the radio, the power supply, the 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.299 antenna, the coax, the connectors, enough to 00:27:15.299 --> 00:27:18.769 get you on the air. And then they have progress 00:27:18.769 --> 00:27:22.150 grants that you can apply for to add small items 00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:27.630 as you go. And those are evaluated once a year. 00:27:27.690 --> 00:27:30.509 So you want to get your applications in for that. 00:27:30.829 --> 00:27:33.150 I believe the deadline for that is November 1st 00:27:33.150 --> 00:27:37.130 each year. But if you've got a program that's 00:27:37.130 --> 00:27:40.910 willing to commit to that, that's a great way 00:27:40.910 --> 00:27:45.420 to get a station without. having to do all the 00:27:45.420 --> 00:27:47.059 the fundraising and everything and of course 00:27:47.059 --> 00:27:50.920 we need people to donate to those so that's available 00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:53.460 and that's what we did at Bloomington South is 00:27:53.460 --> 00:27:56.960 we got that grant in 2003 and then we've just 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:01.359 slowly added things since then with a lot of 00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:04.700 support from the ham radio community so that's 00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:07.589 another way to do that Well, I can talk about 00:28:07.589 --> 00:28:11.130 this forever. I'm already over time and it's 00:28:11.130 --> 00:28:14.470 my own show. 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And a shout out to Troy over at W9GRS, 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:21.960 Glenn Raymond School, in here again tonight. 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.700 He's come over and visited our school and used 00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:29.579 some of our ideas over there and vice versa. 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.380 So good to hear him. And we've got Werner the 00:31:33.380 --> 00:31:37.130 Vulcan here that's I've got a question. He's 00:31:37.130 --> 00:31:40.210 actually calling right now, so let's take that 00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:46.009 call. Good evening, Warner. There we go. We've 00:31:46.009 --> 00:31:50.990 tried a paradigm at our school to get kids involved 00:31:50.990 --> 00:31:53.430 with ham radio, but we didn't sell it as a ham 00:31:53.430 --> 00:31:58.230 radio program. We sold it as a STEM program to 00:31:58.230 --> 00:32:02.950 teach kids the skill on how to get involved with 00:32:02.950 --> 00:32:06.420 tracking satellites. And then as part of the 00:32:06.420 --> 00:32:08.640 program we taught kids how to get their ham license 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:10.940 and that's worked for the last five years. Go 00:32:10.940 --> 00:32:13.880 ahead. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking 00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.400 about is you do something to get them going, 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.480 to get them interested and then you introduce 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:25.500 the testing part of it for the license. So yeah, 00:32:25.660 --> 00:32:28.720 very good. And just reading your comments here, 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.960 you've got 75 techs, 25 generals, five extra. 00:32:32.549 --> 00:32:35.109 and some parents along the way too. So yeah, 00:32:35.230 --> 00:32:37.789 you're doing a great job out there and that's 00:32:37.789 --> 00:32:41.849 exactly what we're talking about. Okay, well 00:32:41.849 --> 00:32:44.369 I just wanted to share that because it's a paradigm 00:32:44.369 --> 00:32:46.829 that's working and we're teaching now other schools 00:32:46.829 --> 00:32:51.150 how to do that. And what's nice about it is that 00:32:51.150 --> 00:32:53.529 the kids are using this to leapfrog into STEM 00:32:53.529 --> 00:32:56.589 careers and get involved in some other cool stuff 00:32:56.589 --> 00:32:59.190 at the school. We have 25 after school programs 00:32:59.190 --> 00:33:03.029 and my tech general and extra class are only 00:33:03.029 --> 00:33:06.450 three of the 25 after school STEM programs. So 00:33:06.450 --> 00:33:08.130 it's cool. Keep up the great work you're doing, 00:33:08.309 --> 00:33:10.109 Neil. I just wanted to chime in with a thought. 00:33:10.150 --> 00:33:12.630 If it helps somebody, then that's great. Anybody's 00:33:12.630 --> 00:33:15.230 welcome. If they wish, they can email me. I'm 00:33:15.230 --> 00:33:18.599 okay on QR said. and i can share more stuff that 00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:20.720 they're sitting in more on that paradigm okay 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.099 yeah very good and we'll make sure we get your 00:33:23.099 --> 00:33:26.259 call sign out there's wb six are a double you 00:33:26.259 --> 00:33:30.700 don't be six that's right yeah very good sets 00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:34.079 real american whiskey yeah very good you know 00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:38.160 that's exactly what we're doing and uh... it's 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.940 working we haven't done so much with satellite 00:33:40.940 --> 00:33:44.470 but the idea is the same you You get them involved 00:33:44.470 --> 00:33:49.390 in those kinds of things and then introduce the 00:33:49.390 --> 00:33:51.329 license thing. So very good. Thanks for calling 00:33:51.329 --> 00:33:54.690 in. You betcha. And speaking of the space station, 00:33:55.109 --> 00:33:58.369 our school puts about 25 experiments on the space 00:33:58.369 --> 00:34:00.529 station every year and we teach other schools 00:34:00.529 --> 00:34:03.490 how to do that. So that ties in well with ham 00:34:03.490 --> 00:34:05.430 radio and of course the astronauts that are hams 00:34:05.430 --> 00:34:07.829 on board. So anyway, keep up the good work. I'm 00:34:07.829 --> 00:34:09.570 sure there's other people who want to chime in. 00:34:09.829 --> 00:34:12.190 All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. 00:34:12.489 --> 00:34:15.090 Taking the time to call in and yeah, we've done 00:34:15.090 --> 00:34:19.190 some of that as well. So great job out there 00:34:19.190 --> 00:34:23.409 and Like to hear that's continuing. Good job. 00:34:23.409 --> 00:34:27.030 All right. Take care. All right, you too All 00:34:27.030 --> 00:34:29.570 right. Well, sorry about the technical problems 00:34:29.570 --> 00:34:31.929 there. Hopefully we've got through that. Let 00:34:31.929 --> 00:34:38.769 me run over here to Twitter got a couple of them 00:34:38.769 --> 00:34:44.550 about about scouting. Any good instruction material 00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:47.849 for teaching the Radio Merit Badge from David 00:34:47.849 --> 00:34:53.630 WX4DMD. And there's another one about Cub Scout 00:34:53.630 --> 00:34:58.349 age kids grades 1 through 5 from Scott Wiley. 00:35:00.190 --> 00:35:04.550 For the scouting, first of all, I'd say take 00:35:04.550 --> 00:35:08.170 a listen to the show that we did just a few weeks 00:35:08.170 --> 00:35:16.750 ago on scouting with Will Jordan and Jim Davis 00:35:16.750 --> 00:35:21.750 that was on. They had a lot of the resources 00:35:21.750 --> 00:35:30.059 on that. So give a listen to that and and find 00:35:30.059 --> 00:35:34.579 that, but the Scout material is pretty self -directed. 00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:38.480 There's a Radio Merit Badge book and so as long 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:44.079 as you follow that Radio Merit Badge book, that's 00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.719 pretty well what you want to do. Now you can 00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.889 supplement some things with the comic books like 00:35:52.889 --> 00:35:55.809 I mentioned that ICOM has that you can download 00:35:55.809 --> 00:35:58.510 for free The Adventures of Zack and Max and Alpha 00:35:58.510 --> 00:36:03.210 and Zulu and some of those same things but the 00:36:03.210 --> 00:36:06.550 Merit Badge book that's put out by the Boy Scouts 00:36:06.550 --> 00:36:09.690 has a lot of that information in it so I would 00:36:09.690 --> 00:36:14.650 suggest that you just follow that that would 00:36:14.650 --> 00:36:17.489 be the best resource and there's a few things 00:36:17.489 --> 00:36:21.710 out there online too but You know, again, I'd 00:36:21.710 --> 00:36:24.889 use kind of the same things that I was just talking 00:36:24.889 --> 00:36:29.090 about. OK, let's see here. I'm trying to do this 00:36:29.090 --> 00:36:33.230 all solo this evening here, so I apologize for 00:36:33.230 --> 00:36:37.329 some of the technical problems. But it's great 00:36:37.329 --> 00:36:39.909 that we've got several questions on here tonight. 00:36:40.829 --> 00:36:45.190 OK, Twitter seems to be good. And oh, yeah, Troy. 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.000 Reminds me here to mention the school club roundup 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.159 and and Hopefully we're going to do a show right 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.280 before school club roundup this year Just about 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.119 school club roundup and how you can help out 00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.179 even if you're just on the air During school 00:37:01.179 --> 00:37:05.420 club roundup week, but again as I mentioned school 00:37:05.420 --> 00:37:10.000 club roundup is a great springboard for Getting 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.690 things started because it's scripted there's 00:37:13.690 --> 00:37:16.210 a script and it helps the kids get over the mic 00:37:16.210 --> 00:37:20.269 fright they fill in the blanks with the things 00:37:20.269 --> 00:37:24.869 it's a contesting type situation and so there's 00:37:24.869 --> 00:37:30.570 just not a whole lot of small talk that they 00:37:30.570 --> 00:37:38.289 have to make so that's That's something that 00:37:38.289 --> 00:37:41.809 you want to check into school club roundup check 00:37:41.809 --> 00:37:48.510 that out on the ARRL website There's a lot of 00:37:48.510 --> 00:37:52.230 information up there, but it's a great demonstration 00:37:52.230 --> 00:37:56.389 tool also that you know kids see other kids Getting 00:37:56.389 --> 00:37:59.869 on the air at school and making those contacts 00:38:00.380 --> 00:38:04.340 Even though they're quick, it gives them some 00:38:04.340 --> 00:38:08.000 interest and provides some competition too. Competition 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.860 has been a big motivator for us. Things like 00:38:11.860 --> 00:38:13.820 School Club Roundup and then we just started 00:38:13.820 --> 00:38:18.380 doing CQ Worldwide here last year. Some of that 00:38:18.380 --> 00:38:23.519 competition definitely helps. Okay, I'm trying 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:30.820 to read all these messages here. Okay, yeah, 00:38:31.179 --> 00:38:35.400 seen some people tell me that the Skype was coming 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.719 through right and that was entirely my fault. 00:38:38.179 --> 00:38:41.139 So I will take the blame on that. Let me check 00:38:41.139 --> 00:38:44.460 and see if we have any other messages here. Again, 00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.699 you can give us a call 812 -NET -HAM -1. We have 00:38:47.699 --> 00:38:51.119 a couple of minutes left. 812 -NET -HAM -1 or 00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.039 Skype us at HamTalk Live or you can tweet at 00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.500 HamTalk Live. Or you can even type in the little 00:38:57.500 --> 00:38:59.840 chat box here. We haven't had too many people 00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:02.920 doing that, but like we do tonight, so we appreciate 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.920 that. Any way that you can interact with us is 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:10.420 great. 812 Nat Ham 1 is the phone number, if 00:39:10.420 --> 00:39:12.920 you have any other questions about that. Otherwise, 00:39:13.099 --> 00:39:15.639 we're going to wrap things up here in just about 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.480 a minute. So if you have anything that you quickly 00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:24.179 want to get in here. you know also there's there's 00:39:24.179 --> 00:39:27.739 a lot of scholarship opportunities that you know 00:39:27.739 --> 00:39:30.239 looks great on a resume all that kind of thing 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.739 so we always encourage kids to to do that too 00:39:34.739 --> 00:39:40.019 so you know as a you know another reason to do 00:39:40.019 --> 00:39:44.739 ham radio is to to show some proficiency and 00:39:44.739 --> 00:39:48.369 get it as a word was saying into some of these 00:39:48.369 --> 00:39:51.670 science and technology engineering and math fields 00:39:51.670 --> 00:39:54.929 to gain some expertise on that and you put that 00:39:54.929 --> 00:39:58.090 on a on a resume that's going to help set you 00:39:58.090 --> 00:40:01.389 aside from everyone else so that's always a good 00:40:01.389 --> 00:40:04.670 way to go. Okay I see we do have another call 00:40:04.670 --> 00:40:07.750 here but unfortunately I'm out of time this evening 00:40:07.750 --> 00:40:11.869 so I would love to do that and if you want I 00:40:11.869 --> 00:40:15.550 can I can stick around after the show and and 00:40:15.550 --> 00:40:17.630 take your call so if you want to give me a call 00:40:17.630 --> 00:40:20.690 back here as soon as the show's over and we can 00:40:20.690 --> 00:40:24.849 do that but it is time to go for right now so 00:40:24.849 --> 00:40:27.989 I want to thank everybody for listening and thank 00:40:27.989 --> 00:40:31.030 everybody for participating this evening it's 00:40:31.030 --> 00:40:33.949 great when people can call in and tweet in and 00:40:33.949 --> 00:40:37.230 message in but that is a wrap for this week's 00:40:37.230 --> 00:40:40.670 edition of HamTalk Live Thanks to everybody listening 00:40:40.670 --> 00:40:44.050 and next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Tony Tolbert, 00:40:44.090 --> 00:40:49.190 W9AMT, the public relations liaison for Hoosier 00:40:49.190 --> 00:40:52.889 DMR will be here to fill us in on DMR, Digital 00:40:52.889 --> 00:40:56.550 Mole Radio. And for a list of all of our upcoming 00:40:56.550 --> 00:41:00.469 guests, visit HamTalkLive .com. So for now, this 00:41:00.469 --> 00:41:05.730 is WB9VPGNeoWrap saying 7375 and may the good 00:41:05.730 --> 00:41:27.820 DX be yours. Outro Music