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I'm your host, Neil Rapp, 00:01:56.459 --> 00:01:59.659 WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning in to this episode 00:01:59.659 --> 00:02:03.799 of HamTalk Live. Tonight we'll be joined by the 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:07.099 one and only Ward Silver, N0AX, the president 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:12.539 of the Yasme Foundation and editor and columnist 00:02:12.539 --> 00:02:16.419 at ARRL and a member of the famous Spurious Emissions 00:02:16.419 --> 00:02:20.139 Band. 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Call 920 -435 -2973 or visit their 00:05:23.860 --> 00:05:28.100 website at pl -259 .com. Be sure to listen to 00:05:28.100 --> 00:05:30.360 HamTalk Live every Thursday night at 9 p .m. 00:05:30.540 --> 00:05:33.600 Eastern Time right here at HamTalkLive .com and 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.839 if you missed the show you can download the podcast 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:40.000 from the website or most popular podcasting websites. 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.139 Ward Silver, N0AX, was first licensed at age 00:05:44.139 --> 00:05:48.019 16 in 1972. His am radio interest led him to 00:05:48.019 --> 00:05:51.699 a degree in electrical engineering from the University 00:05:51.699 --> 00:05:55.000 of Missouri at Rolla, which is now the Missouri 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:58.839 University of Science and Technology. Ward spent 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:02.339 his time in broadcast engineering and field and 00:06:02.339 --> 00:06:04.779 product development engineering for many years. 00:06:05.209 --> 00:06:08.329 and he's an avid DXer and contestor and has been 00:06:08.329 --> 00:06:11.689 on the DXCC honor roll in the top 10 in several 00:06:11.689 --> 00:06:15.029 contests and several record lists. He's one of 00:06:15.029 --> 00:06:18.050 the founders of the World Radio Sport Team Championships 00:06:18.050 --> 00:06:21.189 and continues to support that organization. He's 00:06:21.189 --> 00:06:23.389 currently the president of the Yasme Foundation, 00:06:23.910 --> 00:06:25.550 which you'll hear more about in just a couple 00:06:25.550 --> 00:06:28.139 of minutes. He's operated for many of the big 00:06:28.139 --> 00:06:33.720 -time contest stations like K3LR, HC8N, K9CT, 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:38.300 and VE7SV. Ward has pursued technical writing 00:06:38.300 --> 00:06:43.779 and is the lead editor of the ARRL handbook and 00:06:43.779 --> 00:06:47.579 antenna book. He's authored many others. such 00:06:47.579 --> 00:06:51.459 as the ARRL license study guides, ham radio for 00:06:51.459 --> 00:06:54.579 dummies, and many many articles. For 20 years 00:06:54.579 --> 00:06:58.379 he was the author of the ARRL contest corral 00:06:58.379 --> 00:07:02.360 and he's written several ham radio novels. He 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:05.620 was the 2008 Dayton Hamvention amateur of the 00:07:05.620 --> 00:07:09.759 year and in 2015 he was inducted into the CQ 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:14.040 contest Hall of Fame, and he enjoys his music 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:17.339 and performs with his spurious admissions band 00:07:17.339 --> 00:07:21.100 each year at Dayton. Ward, welcome to HamTalk 00:07:21.100 --> 00:07:26.600 Live. Thanks, Neil. It's great to be here. Yeah, 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.959 so glad you're here, and we want to talk first 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:34.009 about the... Yasme Foundation. So tell us all 00:07:34.009 --> 00:07:37.430 about the Yasme Foundation and where that name 00:07:37.430 --> 00:07:40.889 comes from and what the goal is of that foundation. 00:07:42.069 --> 00:07:44.930 Okay, well the Yasme Foundation has been around 00:07:44.930 --> 00:07:49.110 since the late 50s. It was really formed originally 00:07:49.110 --> 00:07:53.930 to take care of some of the travel expenses and 00:07:53.930 --> 00:07:57.329 boat maintenance for one of the very first real 00:07:57.329 --> 00:08:00.970 de expeditioners guy named Danny wild who was 00:08:00.970 --> 00:08:05.550 an Englishman his young watchmaker decided to 00:08:05.550 --> 00:08:09.990 hit the salty seas like many many English do 00:08:09.990 --> 00:08:14.170 and bought a small boat sailed across the Atlantic 00:08:14.170 --> 00:08:18.209 by himself and Somebody told him, you know, you 00:08:18.209 --> 00:08:20.589 really got to check out this ham radio stuff 00:08:20.589 --> 00:08:23.889 while you're out there it would give you some 00:08:23.889 --> 00:08:26.569 communications and so he did get his license 00:08:26.569 --> 00:08:31.670 and while he was sailing around the Atlantic 00:08:31.670 --> 00:08:34.289 got acquainted with a lot of the hams of the 00:08:34.289 --> 00:08:38.230 day and then make a long story short wound up 00:08:38.230 --> 00:08:41.570 visiting quite a number of countries in the Caribbean 00:08:41.570 --> 00:08:46.110 and the Pacific via three different Yasme boats 00:08:46.110 --> 00:08:50.710 and the name of the boats were Yasme. And to 00:08:50.710 --> 00:08:53.950 help keep Danny going, these guys formed a foundation 00:08:53.950 --> 00:09:00.409 and helped out with QSLs and replacing the boat. 00:09:00.830 --> 00:09:04.870 I said there were three of them. One hit a rock. 00:09:06.370 --> 00:09:08.769 Let's see, two sank, I guess. I'll just put it 00:09:08.769 --> 00:09:13.419 that way without getting into the details. There 00:09:13.419 --> 00:09:16.480 was there was actually a fourth but it it caught 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:19.759 fire and blew up and sank in the harbor before 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.299 he could even start with it And so there was 00:09:22.299 --> 00:09:25.600 actually four yasme's Reminds me the old Monty 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:28.080 Python and the holy grail scene where the guy 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.480 talks about his castle building the castle that 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.620 sank into the swamp and eventually builds enough 00:09:33.620 --> 00:09:39.419 castles and Gets one to stay up. Yes sort of 00:09:39.419 --> 00:09:43.279 an offshoot of a Japanese word, yasumi, that 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:47.559 means a variety of things. Peace, to make peaceful, 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:51.740 to make calm. It's one of those semi -translatable 00:09:51.740 --> 00:09:55.960 concepts. And so the word yasumi is the title, 00:09:56.220 --> 00:10:00.980 or the name of Danny's boat. Okay, so Danny knocked 00:10:00.980 --> 00:10:04.980 off the expedition in the early 60s. The Foundation 00:10:04.980 --> 00:10:08.320 was dormant for a little while, and then this 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.700 pair of expeditioners, a couple from California, 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:17.980 Lloyd and Iris Colvin, W6KG and W6QL, decided 00:10:17.980 --> 00:10:20.399 that they would give it a try, and they wound 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.600 up visiting over 260 countries and operating 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:29.000 from nearly 170 over 20 years or more. And the 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:32.850 Yasme Foundation took care of handling all their 00:10:32.850 --> 00:10:37.370 cards, and this is quite a story. It's all described 00:10:37.370 --> 00:10:42.330 in this book called The Azmi Book, The Azmi Dexpeditions, 00:10:42.669 --> 00:10:47.409 and it's available from the ARRL. If you've just 00:10:47.409 --> 00:10:50.529 gotten into the DX game and you hear stories 00:10:50.529 --> 00:10:53.330 about the Colvins and Danny Weill and Don Miller 00:10:53.330 --> 00:10:57.129 and Gus Browning and all these guys and gals, 00:10:57.149 --> 00:11:00.789 and you're wondering what the heck is all this? 00:11:00.909 --> 00:11:04.350 It's an excellent research book by Jim Kane, 00:11:04.769 --> 00:11:10.190 K1TN, and it really lays it all out for you. 00:11:10.409 --> 00:11:14.289 It's a great historical thing. So anyway, that's 00:11:14.289 --> 00:11:16.970 basically the history, the early history of the 00:11:16.970 --> 00:11:22.720 Foundation. Today, the Foundation lives on. It's 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:25.600 funded by an endowment from the Colvin's estate. 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:30.100 And so we're not interested in getting any donations 00:11:30.100 --> 00:11:34.019 or anything. We support a variety of projects. 00:11:34.220 --> 00:11:36.639 We're a non -profit and official, a real -life 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:45.190 501C3 non -profit corporation. organized to support 00:11:45.190 --> 00:11:48.169 scientific and educational projects related to 00:11:48.169 --> 00:11:51.529 amateur radio. And mostly we're interested in 00:11:51.529 --> 00:11:54.470 DXing. There are eight board members currently 00:11:54.470 --> 00:12:00.169 and we are all of the history of DXing and contesting 00:12:00.169 --> 00:12:04.509 an HF operation. So we're really interested in 00:12:04.509 --> 00:12:07.090 promoting amateur radio in developing countries 00:12:07.090 --> 00:12:11.720 and we have supported various projects. relating 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.480 to amateur radio, but really interested in opening 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:19.419 doors for amateur radio. Technically, administratively, 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:23.919 we have board members from Europe and they help 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:28.179 with various projects around the world. And we're 00:12:28.179 --> 00:12:31.500 really getting into encouraging youth participation 00:12:31.500 --> 00:12:35.259 in amateur radio. So that, in a nutshell, is 00:12:35.259 --> 00:12:38.940 what the YASME Foundation is about. We deliberately 00:12:38.940 --> 00:12:41.559 keep it a little bit vague so we don't get tied 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.179 down too specifically. And we're always on the 00:12:46.179 --> 00:12:50.000 lookout for good projects. So that's basically 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:55.889 what we do, Neil. Oh, that sounds great. Why 00:12:55.889 --> 00:12:59.370 don't you tell us a little bit, I know that Yasme 00:12:59.370 --> 00:13:03.330 has done some excellence awards. Why don't you 00:13:03.330 --> 00:13:06.610 tell me about the recent winners? You've got 00:13:06.610 --> 00:13:11.950 some excellent choices that are close to my heart. 00:13:13.210 --> 00:13:14.750 Why don't you tell us a little bit about those 00:13:14.750 --> 00:13:17.129 excellence awards that just happened in the last 00:13:17.129 --> 00:13:21.210 few months? I'll do that. Yasme sponsors some 00:13:21.210 --> 00:13:23.629 operating awards. These, and that's the usual 00:13:23.629 --> 00:13:26.649 thing, make some contacts and get a prize, and 00:13:26.649 --> 00:13:30.970 there's some very nice ones. But this is an award 00:13:30.970 --> 00:13:35.029 that the Yasme Foundation makes to individuals 00:13:35.029 --> 00:13:41.590 who have achieved something special. They have 00:13:41.590 --> 00:13:44.429 labored in the trenches in support of ham radio. 00:13:44.590 --> 00:13:49.330 They've exhibited some kind of payback to amateur 00:13:49.330 --> 00:13:52.330 radio and we're kind of looking for people who 00:13:52.330 --> 00:13:57.570 are not really on the beaten track, not always 00:13:57.570 --> 00:14:01.330 the same faces in the news, although in 2016 00:14:01.330 --> 00:14:04.529 we have a nice mix of people who are lesser known 00:14:04.529 --> 00:14:08.870 and people who are well known. We started this 00:14:08.870 --> 00:14:14.690 award program in 2008 and the award is basically 00:14:14.690 --> 00:14:19.889 a nice check and a handsome Crystal Globe with 00:14:19.889 --> 00:14:24.190 the name of the awardee engraved on it. This 00:14:24.190 --> 00:14:29.690 year, we gave three awards, one to Tim Duffy, 00:14:29.750 --> 00:14:34.450 K3LR, who is a well -known amateur, but it's 00:14:34.450 --> 00:14:37.830 not so well -known that he is the driving force 00:14:37.830 --> 00:14:43.610 behind Contest University. www .contestuniversity 00:14:43.610 --> 00:14:47.789 .com. It's an all -day radio sport education 00:14:47.789 --> 00:14:51.710 program that's held every year on Thursday before 00:14:51.710 --> 00:14:57.210 the Dayton Hamvention and it is now seeding over 00:14:57.210 --> 00:15:01.750 200 every year selling out with used and experienced 00:15:01.750 --> 00:15:04.909 and not so experienced hams who want to learn 00:15:04.909 --> 00:15:08.929 more about contest operating, attending. There's 00:15:08.929 --> 00:15:14.870 a lot of professors which are experienced contester 00:15:14.870 --> 00:15:20.090 and we have a pretty good time all day. Absolutely. 00:15:20.789 --> 00:15:24.769 It's been a great thing and we've been able to 00:15:24.769 --> 00:15:28.230 take some of my high school students over to 00:15:28.230 --> 00:15:31.570 Contest University the last couple of years and 00:15:31.570 --> 00:15:35.159 we've learned a lot from it. It's starting to 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:38.200 happen around the world, and it's inspired others 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:45.539 to create CTU -like training programs for DXing 00:15:45.539 --> 00:15:49.720 and other things. So Tim got one of the prizes 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.879 this year. We gave it to him at Contest University, 00:15:53.019 --> 00:15:57.059 so that was kind of neat. A face that you see 00:15:57.059 --> 00:15:59.460 in the news, and Neil, I know you know her well, 00:16:00.019 --> 00:16:05.419 is Carol Perry, WB2 Mike Golf Papa. Carol is 00:16:05.419 --> 00:16:11.139 a huge force in the teaching and mentoring of 00:16:11.139 --> 00:16:14.419 youth interested in amateur radio. She's been 00:16:14.419 --> 00:16:18.860 at this for decades, literally decades, and she's 00:16:18.860 --> 00:16:25.580 now the QCWA youth coordinator and She directs 00:16:25.580 --> 00:16:28.379 programs for youth through the Radio Club of 00:16:28.379 --> 00:16:31.820 America, both fine organizations in and of themselves. 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:35.179 And so we wanted to recognize that. And so we 00:16:35.179 --> 00:16:39.860 were able to give Carol her prize at the Dayton 00:16:39.860 --> 00:16:43.440 Instructors Forum. So that was kind of neat. 00:16:44.379 --> 00:16:48.399 And the third is a fellow that not many people 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:57.990 know of. Tom Rauch, W8 Japan India. Tom has made 00:16:57.990 --> 00:17:02.929 many, many contributions to technical areas in 00:17:02.929 --> 00:17:08.190 the amateur service, top band operating, lightning 00:17:08.190 --> 00:17:13.109 grounding, antenna design, all sorts of electronics, 00:17:13.609 --> 00:17:22.039 and his website, www .w8ji .com. is a real resource 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:27.220 in a lot of areas. Tom exemplifies one of the 00:17:27.220 --> 00:17:30.960 amateur principles, and that is to teach yourself. 00:17:31.539 --> 00:17:35.339 Tom has taught himself a lot of what he's found 00:17:35.339 --> 00:17:39.000 out. He's not willing to just accept the say 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:43.039 -so of the authorities. He's gone out and verified 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:47.440 it in some cases, unverified certain electrical 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:51.000 and electronic myths. we're all the better for 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:54.920 it. So Tom got the third award this year. That's 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:57.220 typical of the people that we give the award 00:17:57.220 --> 00:18:00.940 to. People that pay back to Ham Radio and make 00:18:00.940 --> 00:18:07.440 contributions. All excellent and worthy recipients 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.960 and thanks a lot for recognizing those people. 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:16.039 I know that they all have done marvelous marvelous 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:19.670 things and it's great that you're able to to 00:18:19.670 --> 00:18:25.589 recognize all that they do. Absolutely. So I 00:18:25.589 --> 00:18:29.190 understand YASME has a brand new website coming 00:18:29.190 --> 00:18:32.210 very soon. Why don't you tell us a little bit 00:18:32.210 --> 00:18:35.809 about that? Yep. If you go out and Google YASME, 00:18:36.009 --> 00:18:39.509 and I'm sure some people did, it's spelled Y 00:18:39.509 --> 00:18:46.180 -A -S -M -E, Nike Alpha Zero Mike Echo. Our old 00:18:46.180 --> 00:18:48.279 website was getting a little long in the tooth 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:53.519 and we've contracted to have it redone. It's 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.299 almost finished and we should have it released 00:18:56.299 --> 00:18:59.839 next week. It's going to have a lot of history, 00:19:00.180 --> 00:19:05.940 some photos. It has some really cool old scans 00:19:05.940 --> 00:19:10.500 of the YASME news, which was a publication put 00:19:10.500 --> 00:19:14.930 out. the early 60s sort of the newsletter and 00:19:14.930 --> 00:19:18.089 these are fairly rare artifacts and they've been 00:19:18.089 --> 00:19:23.730 scanned by our web mistress Susie Coleman and 00:19:23.730 --> 00:19:28.329 we're gonna have a nice much nicer presentation 00:19:28.329 --> 00:19:32.430 so take a look at it next week it'll be yasme 00:19:32.430 --> 00:19:36.009 .org should be available by the end of the month 00:19:36.009 --> 00:19:42.099 very good well that's Always good to to have 00:19:42.099 --> 00:19:45.579 some more resources out there. And so That's 00:19:45.579 --> 00:19:48.019 uh, that's great that you're able to do that. 00:19:48.099 --> 00:19:49.940 Well, the other thing we wanted to talk about 00:19:49.940 --> 00:19:54.940 of course is The spurious emissions band and 00:19:54.940 --> 00:19:58.799 and you guys you guys get together and play every 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:03.000 year at Dayton and Tell us who else is in the 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:06.440 band with you and who comes up with the idea 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:12.950 for for all these songs Well, the band consists 00:20:12.950 --> 00:20:17.509 of me. I play mandolin. Kirk Pickering, Kilo 00:20:17.509 --> 00:20:22.170 Four Radio Oscar, is our guitarist, and he's 00:20:22.170 --> 00:20:25.569 quite an amazing guy. He plays a lot of different 00:20:25.569 --> 00:20:28.869 stringed instruments, and he's mostly interested 00:20:28.869 --> 00:20:31.769 in the fiddle right now. He's an old -timey fiddle 00:20:31.769 --> 00:20:36.849 player, but he can pick up a Stratocaster and 00:20:36.849 --> 00:20:41.000 whip out a pretty good... solo on a variety of 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:45.180 songs. Scott Robbins, the owner of Vibraplex 00:20:45.180 --> 00:20:51.059 Whiskey Four, Pale Ale, he is a semi -pro bass 00:20:51.059 --> 00:20:54.539 player on the side. Scott apparently has several 00:20:54.539 --> 00:20:58.000 clones that get everything done. He plays in 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:02.680 at least two bands and runs the company and travels 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:06.799 around and still manages to Show up and play 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:10.880 bass. He said it made his time in a cover band 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.140 all worthwhile back in the day and then our drummer 00:21:15.140 --> 00:21:22.140 is Sean Cutsco KX9X the ARRL's public relations 00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:27.559 manager and We're all just sort of approximately 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:29.680 the same age. We have a lot of the same musical 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:34.549 taste. We like classic rock you know, Country 00:21:34.549 --> 00:21:41.289 Rock, AOR stuff, Grateful Dead, The Blues, Bob 00:21:41.289 --> 00:21:44.730 Dylan, all these different things. So we get 00:21:44.730 --> 00:21:48.390 together once a year. We've been getting together 00:21:48.390 --> 00:21:51.269 at Kirk's house the last couple of years in Nashville. 00:21:52.329 --> 00:21:55.529 And it's great to be able to say, yes, I'm flying 00:21:55.529 --> 00:21:58.549 to Nashville to rehearse. It sounds so cool. 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:02.000 But basically, we hang out in the basement, drink 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.279 beer, and eat pizza, and laugh our rear ends 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:10.000 off. And we just practice for a weekend. And 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:13.079 I'm typically the guy that comes up with the 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:18.339 ideas for the song lyrics. It's either a bug 00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:20.299 or a feature. I haven't quite figured it out. 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:23.660 But when the muse calls, the muse calls. And 00:22:23.660 --> 00:22:28.130 I just really enjoy it. There's about 160 different 00:22:28.130 --> 00:22:31.789 songs in the book right now. So we have a lot 00:22:31.789 --> 00:22:35.130 of material to play with. And then we just try 00:22:35.130 --> 00:22:38.789 to work out an arrangement for it. And if it 00:22:38.789 --> 00:22:40.769 works, it works. And if it doesn't, it doesn't. 00:22:41.069 --> 00:22:44.329 It's surprisingly difficult to make some of these 00:22:44.329 --> 00:22:49.930 songs sound good. But we'll do, in any particular 00:22:49.930 --> 00:22:53.609 year, we might do Pink Floyd and David Bowie. 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:56.359 Like I said, Bob Dylan and the Rolling Stones 00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:58.579 and the Beatles, you know, it's just whatever 00:22:58.579 --> 00:23:02.359 works. And it's just funny lyrics, sort of, I 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:07.339 call it hammifying lyrics of rock songs to be 00:23:07.339 --> 00:23:10.619 ham, ham -ish. And everybody gets a big laugh 00:23:10.619 --> 00:23:15.539 out of it. We play on Friday night and that's 00:23:15.539 --> 00:23:17.599 basically it. And then we fade back into woodwork. 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:21.000 And sometimes we're joined by the lovely Katie 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:26.920 Allen, W -Y -7 -Y -L. Her husband Dwayne, WY7FD, 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:31.859 Mark Beckwith, K5OT has sung with us and occasionally 00:23:31.859 --> 00:23:37.220 Bruce Fromm, K0BJ will show up and sing. We were 00:23:37.220 --> 00:23:43.359 also joined by Val Hotsfeld, NV9L this year on 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:47.400 a wonderful version of Walk on the Wild Side 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:51.440 and she and Katie did a great job on chorus. 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.799 It's all on YouTube. Our plausible deniability 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:59.579 is completely shot. And we have a great time. 00:24:00.460 --> 00:24:04.960 So I guess I'm sort of the chief irritant that 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.279 comes up with these things. But everybody else 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.140 contributes. And the song you're going to play 00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:15.400 here is actually written by Sean. And it's our 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:22.210 cover of the NCJ signature tune. And it's all 00:24:22.210 --> 00:24:25.549 him. So it's great. We had great fun with it. 00:24:25.690 --> 00:24:27.890 All right. Well, let's take a listen. If you 00:24:27.890 --> 00:24:29.750 haven't heard the spurious emissions ban, you 00:24:29.750 --> 00:24:32.430 really, really should. Um, so we're going to 00:24:32.430 --> 00:24:35.490 take a listen to on the cover of the NCJ right 00:24:35.490 --> 00:27:31.319 here on am talk live. Give it. the NCJ on HamTalk 00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:37.319 Live, so are you guys wanting to get on the cover 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:41.880 of the National Contest Journal? Oh, that's beautiful. 00:27:44.380 --> 00:27:47.740 Well, that sort of occurred to us afterwards. 00:27:48.019 --> 00:27:51.259 Kirk was actually the editor of the NCJ at the 00:27:51.259 --> 00:27:54.299 time, so it was kind of funny to think about. 00:27:55.100 --> 00:27:58.079 Sean came up with it. I don't know quite what 00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.440 the inspiration was. Usually it's something like 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.579 you just notice there's a rhythm and something 00:28:04.579 --> 00:28:08.119 just kind of pops into your head that this word 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:12.799 sort of has the same flow as that word and suddenly 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:16.420 you've got a line and then the muse takes over 00:28:16.420 --> 00:28:19.329 and a half an hour goes by. you got most of it 00:28:19.329 --> 00:28:21.789 roughed out. So I don't know, alcohol might have 00:28:21.789 --> 00:28:26.769 been involved. No, I think I think Sean just 00:28:26.769 --> 00:28:30.670 got the cover of the NCG. Well, was it practice? 00:28:30.769 --> 00:28:34.269 I'll put it that way. We were laughing. It was 00:28:34.269 --> 00:28:38.440 great. And then Scott says, you know, here I 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.099 am. I've won contests. I've labored to get in 00:28:42.099 --> 00:28:44.980 the top 10 all these times and stuff. And what 00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:48.180 do I get on the cover of the NCJ for? A parody 00:28:48.180 --> 00:28:53.480 band. So anyway, that was the deal. Sean came 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:55.980 up with it. It's a big hit. Everybody enjoys 00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:58.980 it. It's our closing number, which may be why 00:28:58.980 --> 00:29:01.819 everybody enjoys it. I don't know. Sorry. Our 00:29:01.819 --> 00:29:07.930 concerts are free. $5 to get out. Um, we're just 00:29:07.930 --> 00:29:09.930 trying to have a good time. We practice once 00:29:09.930 --> 00:29:12.390 a year, so we don't have any pretensions about 00:29:12.390 --> 00:29:16.289 being really, um, you know, super duper, uh, 00:29:16.369 --> 00:29:19.089 cover band people. Uh, we're just having a good 00:29:19.089 --> 00:29:21.609 time. Well, I've been, I've been trying to work 00:29:21.609 --> 00:29:25.789 on this, on this idea. I had is, is pow thing. 00:29:26.670 --> 00:29:32.990 Yeah. You know, wow. You make my wallet sing. 00:29:33.069 --> 00:29:36.549 Oh, you make my belt sink. Oh, belt sink, yeah. 00:29:36.890 --> 00:29:40.470 You make my belt sink. You make radio go roof. 00:29:41.190 --> 00:29:43.529 There we go. We haven't come up with anybody 00:29:43.529 --> 00:29:47.869 to do the bad recorder solo yet, so. Might not 00:29:47.869 --> 00:29:50.650 make the big time. Might get left on the cutting 00:29:50.650 --> 00:29:53.890 room floor, as they say. Yeah, yeah, I think 00:29:53.890 --> 00:29:58.470 so. I think I better stick to broadcasting and 00:29:58.470 --> 00:30:00.779 not... Yeah, better stay with that day job there. 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.880 Yeah, stick with the teaching job. All right. 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.180 Well, Hey, we're going to take your calls. Uh, 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.859 we'll come back and do that right after this 00:30:08.859 --> 00:30:11.779 word from the ham station right here on ham talk 00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:14.579 live. 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Also check 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.000 out our Facebook page and Twitter feed. Just 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:54.099 search for HamTalk Live. Well, it's time to take 00:31:54.099 --> 00:31:56.980 your calls if you have a question for Ward or 00:31:56.980 --> 00:32:01.940 maybe even a long -distance dedication. Call 00:32:01.940 --> 00:32:08.480 812 -NATAM -1. It's 812 -638 -4261. Or you can 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.200 Skype your questions at HamTalk Live or you can 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.039 post in the chat room or whatever. Just get a 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.000 hold of us and we actually have a caller with 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.339 us this evening. Ryan, KD9DAB. Good evening, 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:27.789 Ryan. Hello, I am live from Ashton dorm room 00:32:27.789 --> 00:32:32.009 here on IU's campus. Very good. Yeah. You just 00:32:32.009 --> 00:32:36.210 moved in this week. Um, so first week of classes 00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:41.230 are down. Yeah. It's been a fun time. Great. 00:32:41.509 --> 00:32:46.309 Well, what's your, uh, Sean, an IU alumni, by 00:32:46.309 --> 00:32:52.849 the way. Oh, really? Yes. Yes. Very nice. Yeah, 00:32:52.849 --> 00:32:59.230 we love it here So Ward I know we've been in 00:32:59.230 --> 00:33:03.690 contact before because as a youth and ham especially 00:33:03.690 --> 00:33:11.430 with a Passion for contesting and I think we 00:33:11.430 --> 00:33:15.009 are pretty like -minded that youth in contesting 00:33:15.009 --> 00:33:19.190 is definitely a Very good way of getting new 00:33:19.190 --> 00:33:27.059 people in the hobby What do you think could enhance 00:33:27.059 --> 00:33:33.640 the ability of young contesters or make them 00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:38.539 feel more included in the community? Well, let's 00:33:38.539 --> 00:33:40.640 see, you know the old joke about how do you get 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:43.079 to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice. 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:48.160 There is no substitute for just getting on the 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:53.740 air and operating and operate in little contests 00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:56.960 and big ones whatever make sure you get your 00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:00.819 call out there into the results and you'll build 00:34:00.819 --> 00:34:03.200 some visibility and that's how the community 00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:08.219 sort of notices you just by operating a lot and 00:34:08.219 --> 00:34:11.019 turning in scores. If you find out that there's 00:34:11.019 --> 00:34:16.420 a multi -op in your area contact the host ask 00:34:16.420 --> 00:34:21.190 them if You can come over and take a shift or 00:34:21.190 --> 00:34:25.329 whatever. And if there isn't one in your area, 00:34:25.590 --> 00:34:28.610 start one. Basically, just get your call sign 00:34:28.610 --> 00:34:30.750 out there and the community will notice you. 00:34:31.389 --> 00:34:35.869 Plus, contesting is a terrific way to get a powerful 00:34:35.869 --> 00:34:39.570 dose of ham radio know -how real quick. You learn 00:34:39.570 --> 00:34:43.650 how to operate. You learn how to. fix equipment, 00:34:44.010 --> 00:34:47.730 you learn how to, you know, you learn about propagation, 00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:50.969 you learn all sorts of things real fast, and 00:34:50.969 --> 00:34:54.090 it makes you, it gives you some skills you can 00:34:54.090 --> 00:34:57.090 use for less competitive activities. So anyway, 00:34:57.250 --> 00:35:01.869 that's my advice. Okay, yeah, and kind of to 00:35:01.869 --> 00:35:06.070 expand on what you said, as a young hand that 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.360 I got started in a contest club, Neil's Club, 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.380 and we kind of migrated into a contest -oriented 00:35:12.380 --> 00:35:17.699 club. It really does teach me faster than any 00:35:17.699 --> 00:35:21.400 other way that I can imagine. Just learning how 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.260 to operate propagation, that was a big thing 00:35:25.260 --> 00:35:27.980 that I learned through contesting. And then, 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:32.860 of course, the Murphy's Law and having to fix 00:35:32.860 --> 00:35:37.139 broken things. But yeah. I definitely agree with 00:35:37.139 --> 00:35:39.199 you on that one. We've had our share, haven't 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:43.900 we, Ryan? I'm sorry? I said we've had our share 00:35:43.900 --> 00:35:49.579 of those fixing broken things. There was only 00:35:49.579 --> 00:35:55.179 that one time I almost had heatstroke. Yeah, 00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:58.119 you haven't lived until a linear amplifier blows 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.460 up at 3 in the morning when you're half asleep. 00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:08.679 Anyway, thanks for calling. I'm glad you called. 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.119 Yeah, thank you. I hope to keep in touch with 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.719 you. I appreciate what you've been trying to 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:19.860 do as a young ham. To get more people like me 00:36:19.860 --> 00:36:26.659 into the hobby, I think more people like you 00:36:26.659 --> 00:36:29.619 are needed in the community to really keep it 00:36:29.619 --> 00:36:32.300 alive and thriving. I just wanted to say thank 00:36:32.300 --> 00:36:35.570 you from all the young hams. Well, thanks for 00:36:35.570 --> 00:36:37.769 the kind words. We try to have fun with it, and 00:36:37.769 --> 00:36:41.610 I think that's the key. Absolutely. Thanks for 00:36:41.610 --> 00:36:44.550 taking my call. Thanks, Ryan, for calling. Appreciate 00:36:44.550 --> 00:36:48.409 it. And we have another caller on the line. We 00:36:48.409 --> 00:36:51.909 have Mr. Sterling Coffee in zero SSC. How you 00:36:51.909 --> 00:36:56.190 doing, Sterling? Hey, Neil. Hey, Ward. I bet 00:36:56.190 --> 00:36:59.369 Ward knows me pretty well. I'm an alumni of his 00:36:59.369 --> 00:37:02.889 alma mater at Missouri S &T. We both share a 00:37:02.889 --> 00:37:08.400 BSEE. and I said that right, BSWEEE is the call 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.780 sign down there. I don't have any questions, 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:14.480 I just wanted to publicly embarrass and thank, 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:18.599 also thank, you know, just like Ryan, all of 00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:21.280 the stuff that you've done for me in the past, 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.000 all of the help you've given the club, the Triple 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.380 E club, and all of the rides you've given me 00:37:27.380 --> 00:37:30.159 to Dayton, and all of the great songs you put 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.719 out at Spurrier Submissions. I've been there 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:36.309 as many years as I've and I've remembered when 00:37:36.309 --> 00:37:38.389 you guys were in the corner of the smallest room 00:37:38.389 --> 00:37:40.409 in the Crown Plaza and you guys have expanded 00:37:40.409 --> 00:37:42.710 out and now it feels like I'm going to an Eagles 00:37:42.710 --> 00:37:47.210 concert or something. Well, thanks for the kind 00:37:47.210 --> 00:37:51.050 words. It's been fun and everybody, you haven't 00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:53.880 lived until... You listen to Sterling operate 00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:56.699 a six meter mobile opening as we go right through 00:37:56.699 --> 00:38:00.260 a violent thunderstorm and hailstorm and the 00:38:00.260 --> 00:38:03.380 band opens up along the front and he's trying 00:38:03.380 --> 00:38:05.900 to operate at the same time I'm trying to keep 00:38:05.900 --> 00:38:08.780 us from getting killed on I -70. It was pretty 00:38:08.780 --> 00:38:12.079 impressive. There was good stories and the story 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.880 about the one where we lost our keys and got 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:19.579 them back via Simplex ham radio 14652 saved our 00:38:19.579 --> 00:38:22.539 butts. Oh man. We could have been in that rest 00:38:22.539 --> 00:38:26.659 stop for a long time. Oh my. Yeah. Well, I also 00:38:26.659 --> 00:38:30.380 wanted to thank you and the Yasme Foundation 00:38:30.380 --> 00:38:33.539 and NCDXF for the support you guys gave youngsters 00:38:33.539 --> 00:38:36.519 on the air. Ward is the president, as you all 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:40.039 know, of Yasme, and they helped support the youngsters 00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:42.860 on the air camp, which I've been trying to spread 00:38:42.860 --> 00:38:45.239 the news around the US. I just got back from 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.110 Huntsville and I talked up Yoda. We're trying 00:38:48.110 --> 00:38:52.530 to do something to bring Yota to the US or to 00:38:52.530 --> 00:38:54.329 region 2 and spread it around the world so we 00:38:54.329 --> 00:38:57.989 can really have this week -long camp type scenario 00:38:57.989 --> 00:39:01.429 for young people to enjoy. I really can't thank 00:39:01.429 --> 00:39:04.630 you enough. First of all, emailing me in the 00:39:04.630 --> 00:39:07.329 first place whether or not I was interested. 00:39:08.170 --> 00:39:12.829 I can't overstate my appreciation. You look like 00:39:12.829 --> 00:39:15.530 you had a great time. Let me give everybody a 00:39:15.530 --> 00:39:18.659 little... a whiff of what's going on here. Go 00:39:18.659 --> 00:39:25.079 to ham -yoda, Y -O -T -A, yankeeoscrotangoalpha 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:28.219 .org and check it out. And there's also a Facebook 00:39:28.219 --> 00:39:31.679 page called Youngsters on the Air. And the Youngsters 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.079 on the Air is a European name. And basically, 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.159 that doesn't mean children. It means young people 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:42.099 up to about the age of 30, any place from... 00:39:42.090 --> 00:39:45.070 pre -teens all the way through 30 having a great 00:39:45.070 --> 00:39:47.929 time on their own doing whatever they want to 00:39:47.929 --> 00:39:53.090 do in Hammer Radio and the region one folks have 00:39:53.090 --> 00:39:55.530 really put together this terrific organization 00:39:55.530 --> 00:39:59.750 and so Sterling and I believe your next week's 00:39:59.750 --> 00:40:04.809 guest Sam Rose KC2LRC went over had a rockin 00:40:04.809 --> 00:40:08.389 good time in Austria and they're gonna bring 00:40:08.389 --> 00:40:11.369 that Yoda goodness back over here to region one 00:40:11.369 --> 00:40:13.809 and let's see if we can get something going Yeah, 00:40:13.889 --> 00:40:17.369 we're gonna do a show exclusively on that with 00:40:17.369 --> 00:40:20.409 Sam soon and we may have to see if we can pull 00:40:20.409 --> 00:40:23.030 sterling into that as well Glad to give you a 00:40:23.030 --> 00:40:25.909 little look in there. Yeah, it's looking looking 00:40:25.909 --> 00:40:30.429 like it's gonna be fabulous. So Looking forward 00:40:30.429 --> 00:40:34.949 to talking about that a little bit more Yeah, 00:40:35.030 --> 00:40:37.989 Yoda Yoda is a good thing. I want to see a lot 00:40:37.989 --> 00:40:42.170 of hams Especially the younger hands getting 00:40:42.170 --> 00:40:44.909 on do what you want to do. Don't hang around 00:40:44.909 --> 00:40:48.949 with us old guys Do what you want to do and Yoda 00:40:48.949 --> 00:40:54.730 is a good way to do that Very good. Well Sterling. 00:40:54.730 --> 00:40:56.869 Thank you for calling in and yeah, we'll have 00:40:56.869 --> 00:41:01.510 to uh, we'll have to get you in here I can't 00:41:01.510 --> 00:41:04.920 remember. I don't think it's in Two weeks or 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:06.519 three weeks. I'll have to check the calendar 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:09.739 but But yeah, we'll uh, we'll have to get you 00:41:09.739 --> 00:41:12.320 in here, too. I'd love to all right guys Thanks 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.079 for taking the call. Have a great rest of the 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:19.539 show and thanks Neil. All right All right. Well, 00:41:19.619 --> 00:41:22.260 we're just just about to finish up and we had 00:41:22.260 --> 00:41:25.179 a pile up tonight there were some people calling 00:41:25.179 --> 00:41:29.559 earlier that we weren't able to to squeeze in 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.329 so my apologies for that but We've had a lot 00:41:33.329 --> 00:41:37.650 of response tonight. Good to have that. So Ward, 00:41:37.969 --> 00:41:41.070 any closing comments here? We have about a minute. 00:41:42.050 --> 00:41:45.269 Well, I'd say thanks for the interest. I hope 00:41:45.269 --> 00:41:51.690 people check out Yasmeen and check out the history 00:41:51.690 --> 00:41:53.929 of Ham Radio. I've got one foot in the history, 00:41:54.010 --> 00:41:57.429 the deep history of DXing and another foot in 00:41:57.429 --> 00:42:01.239 what I hope is the future of lot of ham radio 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:05.960 and that is bringing in young people and of all 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:11.000 sorts to have a great time Try to help them Find 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.699 out activities they want design their own activities 00:42:13.699 --> 00:42:15.980 put together their own organizations. Just like 00:42:15.980 --> 00:42:20.159 we did when we got started and Come one come 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.260 all let's have a good time ham radio is where 00:42:22.260 --> 00:42:25.739 it's at Thank you so much for coming on the show 00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:30.550 ward and thank you for all your responsibilities 00:42:30.550 --> 00:42:33.429 that you're taking care of and with the Yasme 00:42:33.429 --> 00:42:38.469 and with the band and we're gonna be watching 00:42:38.469 --> 00:42:42.309 for those new songs next year at Dayton. I got 00:42:42.309 --> 00:42:47.170 a ton. Alright. Can't wait to hear them. That's 00:42:47.170 --> 00:42:52.170 Ward Silver, N0AX. And that's a wrap for this 00:42:52.170 --> 00:42:56.000 week's edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks again 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.619 to Ward Silver, N0AX, and everyone out there 00:42:58.619 --> 00:43:01.360 in cyberspace for listening and calling in. And 00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:03.460 we'll invite you back next Thursday night at 00:43:03.460 --> 00:43:06.739 9 p .m. Eastern Time. For a list of all of our 00:43:06.739 --> 00:43:10.940 upcoming guests, visit HamTalkLive .com. So for 00:43:10.940 --> 00:43:15.179 now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.079 7 -5, and may the good DX be yours. And we're 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.760 gonna send you out with a little more cover of 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:38.079 the NCJ. phone we can see code ready by ear. 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:41.400 With the bell of daughter skills give us all 00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:42.360 kinds of thrills.