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Next weekend, they'll be in 00:05:25.100 --> 00:05:27.920 Peoria for the Superfest in Peoria, Illinois. 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:31.160 And then on the 24th, they'll be in Cedarburg, 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:36.500 Wisconsin. Give them a call at 920 -435 -2973 00:05:36.500 --> 00:05:41.920 or visit their website at pl -259 .com. Be sure 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.959 to listen to HamTalk Live every Thursday night 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:48.899 at 9 p .m. Eastern Time right here on HamTalkLive 00:05:48.899 --> 00:05:51.620 .com and if you missed the show you can download 00:05:51.620 --> 00:05:54.939 the podcast from the website and most popular 00:05:54.939 --> 00:06:00.000 podcasting websites. Sam Rose KC2LRC is from 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.600 Syracuse, New York. Sam was first licensed in 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:08.300 June 2003 at the age of 13. He studied electrical 00:06:08.300 --> 00:06:11.300 engineering at Clarkson University where he was 00:06:11.300 --> 00:06:14.959 president of Clarkson's radio club K2CC from 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:19.839 2010 through 2012. He now works with C -Speed 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.660 in Liverpool, New York doing engineering and 00:06:22.660 --> 00:06:25.180 data performance analysis work on the C -Speed 00:06:25.180 --> 00:06:28.899 LightWave radar. a next -generation S -band air 00:06:28.899 --> 00:06:32.699 traffic surveillance radar. Sam is an avid contester, 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.899 works satellites, public service events, IRLP, 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:40.120 restores radios, and enjoys special events like 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:43.139 balloon launches, international space station 00:06:43.139 --> 00:06:47.310 retransmissions, and weird contests. Since he 00:06:47.310 --> 00:06:49.810 started Ham Radio at a young age, he's particularly 00:06:49.810 --> 00:06:52.410 interested in introducing Ham Radio to youth 00:06:52.410 --> 00:06:55.750 and young adults. And to this end, he spoke this 00:06:55.750 --> 00:06:58.649 past May at the Instructors Forum at the Dayton 00:06:58.649 --> 00:07:01.610 Hamvention about the importance of college radio 00:07:01.610 --> 00:07:04.430 clubs and was selected to attend Youngsters on 00:07:04.430 --> 00:07:07.589 the Air in Austria this past summer. Sterling 00:07:07.589 --> 00:07:10.410 Coffee in Zero SSC is from St. Louis, Missouri. 00:07:10.670 --> 00:07:13.050 Sterling is currently in avionics and communication 00:07:13.050 --> 00:07:16.069 systems. design, test, and integration engineer 00:07:16.069 --> 00:07:19.990 in St. Louis. Sterling became a ham at age 16 00:07:19.990 --> 00:07:23.449 and is one of the former youth editors at ARRL 00:07:23.449 --> 00:07:26.550 and has his own YouTube channel about ham radio. 00:07:26.689 --> 00:07:30.029 He is a 2014 graduate of Missouri University 00:07:30.029 --> 00:07:32.930 of Science and Technology where he was president 00:07:32.930 --> 00:07:37.050 of the WZero Triple E Amateur Radio Club. His 00:07:37.050 --> 00:07:40.110 degree in electrical engineering with an emphasis 00:07:40.110 --> 00:07:43.850 in electromagnetics is from there. He does a 00:07:43.850 --> 00:07:46.790 lot of listening, contesting, and remote operating 00:07:46.790 --> 00:07:49.610 from the W zero triple E shack as well as his 00:07:49.610 --> 00:07:53.290 parents' shack. And he was also selected to represent 00:07:53.290 --> 00:07:57.290 the United States at youngsters on the air in 00:07:57.290 --> 00:08:00.509 Austria this past summer, which is what we're 00:08:00.509 --> 00:08:02.730 talking about this evening. So Sam Sterling, 00:08:02.910 --> 00:08:06.589 welcome to ham talk live. Hey, happy, happy to 00:08:06.589 --> 00:08:09.449 be here. Evening Neil. Thanks for having us tonight. 00:08:11.029 --> 00:08:16.029 Well, I met Sam. a few years ago over at the 00:08:16.029 --> 00:08:20.629 Hamvention with one of my former students and 00:08:20.629 --> 00:08:24.430 we've kind of kept in touch over the years and 00:08:24.430 --> 00:08:28.449 he's had a lot of great ideas especially for 00:08:28.449 --> 00:08:33.509 college radio clubs and so he was selected to 00:08:33.509 --> 00:08:36.629 go over here and then Sterling's been around 00:08:36.629 --> 00:08:41.990 doing the youth editing over at ARRL. that kind 00:08:41.990 --> 00:08:44.710 of thing and I see him at the Youth Forum as 00:08:44.710 --> 00:08:49.090 well. So Sam, I did an interview with you for 00:08:49.090 --> 00:08:51.750 Amateur Radio Newsline a few weeks ago and you 00:08:51.750 --> 00:08:55.669 mentioned how the two of you were selected for 00:08:55.669 --> 00:08:59.029 Youngsters on the Air and why this trip was was 00:08:59.029 --> 00:09:01.750 so important to go on. So why don't you fill 00:09:01.750 --> 00:09:06.990 in our listeners about who sent you guys over 00:09:06.990 --> 00:09:10.269 there and what the goal was for you to go over 00:09:10.269 --> 00:09:14.769 to Yoda. Okay, well this is the fifth year or 00:09:14.769 --> 00:09:17.149 was the fifth year of the Youngsters on the Air 00:09:17.149 --> 00:09:19.529 event. This year it was in Austria. I believe 00:09:19.529 --> 00:09:23.289 last year it was in Italy. And this event has 00:09:23.289 --> 00:09:26.230 picked up so much steam. It's been so successful. 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.440 that a lot of US amateur radio societies have 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:34.379 been looking into this as a model of how can 00:09:34.379 --> 00:09:39.580 we interest enthusiastic youths and provide activities 00:09:39.580 --> 00:09:44.740 and have a get -together of youth amateur radio 00:09:44.740 --> 00:09:47.879 operators in which they can learn some new things, 00:09:47.980 --> 00:09:52.169 meet each other, and just do some... straight 00:09:52.169 --> 00:09:55.350 -out touristy things. So after four years of 00:09:55.350 --> 00:09:58.789 this event picking up steam, Northern California 00:09:58.789 --> 00:10:02.950 DX Foundation and Yasme decided to find a couple 00:10:02.950 --> 00:10:06.169 of us, which we happen to be the two who went, 00:10:06.690 --> 00:10:09.090 and send us out there to take part in the event 00:10:09.090 --> 00:10:13.789 and learn about it, partake, take a lot of photos, 00:10:13.850 --> 00:10:16.629 and come back with some ideas about, you know, 00:10:16.649 --> 00:10:20.070 what Stuff that they do would work well here 00:10:20.070 --> 00:10:22.590 and you know, would we need to change it? But 00:10:22.590 --> 00:10:25.909 the goal is eventually to create a similar event 00:10:25.909 --> 00:10:31.830 or one or many similar events in the US Okay, 00:10:32.049 --> 00:10:38.490 so Who picked you guys out how did that all all 00:10:38.490 --> 00:10:44.000 go? That was Glenn Johnson W zero G J. Hopefully 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.820 I remember his call sign right and That's right. 00:10:46.820 --> 00:10:50.559 Yep, and zero a X among a couple other at the 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:53.960 two foundations Yeah, I gave you guys a teaser 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.759 on the I believe episode 28 with Ward silver 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.220 Thinking him for Yoda and thanking him for the 00:10:59.220 --> 00:11:02.120 consideration and the funding as well. Mm -hmm 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:08.960 Yeah, very good now sterling when I first Heard 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.460 that the two of you were going. I was, I was 00:11:11.460 --> 00:11:14.059 a little curious because you know, I know you 00:11:14.059 --> 00:11:18.179 guys and I was like, wait a minute. These guys 00:11:18.179 --> 00:11:22.539 have graduated college. Why are they going? Why, 00:11:22.539 --> 00:11:25.360 why aren't my students going or, you know, why 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:29.200 aren't some of these, uh, other guys going, uh, 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:34.350 how's that working? And so, um, Lot of the programs 00:11:34.350 --> 00:11:37.490 that we have here in the u .s. Like the culture 00:11:37.490 --> 00:11:40.210 youth the expedition you got to be 17 or younger 00:11:40.210 --> 00:11:43.190 or the youth forum speakers That hamvention or 00:11:43.190 --> 00:11:47.409 young ham of the year 18 and and younger The 00:11:47.409 --> 00:11:50.970 idea of the word Youngster is a little different 00:11:50.970 --> 00:11:56.470 over there with Yoda. So can you explain to us? 00:11:57.350 --> 00:11:59.950 The activities that took place over there and 00:11:59.950 --> 00:12:04.379 how they define Youngster Yeah, sure. Youngster, 00:12:04.460 --> 00:12:06.059 it's definitely a culture, a different culture 00:12:06.059 --> 00:12:09.700 over there. A youngster over there might be more 00:12:09.700 --> 00:12:13.039 portrayed as a young adult. And especially in 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:18.019 the ham radio world, kids, I guess, youngsters, 00:12:18.179 --> 00:12:20.279 young people or young adults or people under 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:25.100 the age of 26, 27 are considered youngsters in 00:12:25.100 --> 00:12:29.000 the ham radio world. In the U .S. that's probably 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:32.940 more like somebody's age 7, age 5, age anywhere 00:12:32.940 --> 00:12:36.820 between 5 and 10 or so before you get into adolescence 00:12:36.820 --> 00:12:38.480 or youth or young adults. So there's a lot of 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:42.299 words for it. But that's what they had. And I 00:12:42.299 --> 00:12:44.179 imagine if we bring it to the U .S. we might 00:12:44.179 --> 00:12:46.919 call it youth on the air or something similar. 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:50.799 There was a myriad of activities. There was a 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.460 whole week full of... activities ranging from 00:12:54.460 --> 00:12:57.980 an ISS contact, a lot of workshops where we built 00:12:57.980 --> 00:13:02.000 things like an HF roll -up antenna, an NFIT half 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:06.440 -wave antenna. We built a Slim Jim J -Pole as 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.259 well. And they provided all of this equipment 00:13:09.259 --> 00:13:12.399 to us, by the way, as part of the application 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:14.860 fee, which was only 25 euro, which was really, 00:13:14.860 --> 00:13:18.940 really good for a week -long stint in a very 00:13:18.940 --> 00:13:22.720 nice youth hotel in Austria with all these activities. 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.519 We all got Raspberry Pi's and we made a whisper 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:28.019 beacon out of it. We built a low pass filter 00:13:28.019 --> 00:13:30.720 to filter out the noise from the harmonics that 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:35.679 it generated. We did HamWan or HamNet. Over in 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:37.720 Europe, they have this, yeah, HamNet, right? 00:13:38.460 --> 00:13:41.419 HamNet is a, to give you a quick description, 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:44.700 it's a high speed data protocol based on WiFi. 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.919 Yeah, and they all use, we got 5 .8 gigahertz 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.799 routers and antennas. We got to connect to that 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.000 and you could you could communicate all across 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:57.100 Europe with the hamnet and it's it's really well 00:13:57.100 --> 00:13:59.700 done and really well like Distributed similar 00:13:59.700 --> 00:14:02.200 to the ham win in Seattle and the one in Austin 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:05.139 and I think there's one in California too, but 00:14:05.139 --> 00:14:09.379 it's much more spread out And I guess completed 00:14:09.379 --> 00:14:13.159 and what else did we do Sam we did we did some 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:17.580 in calm? events like basically setting up a station 00:14:17.580 --> 00:14:19.740 really quickly and learning how to send email 00:14:19.740 --> 00:14:23.659 over the air. We did our main events, which were 00:14:23.659 --> 00:14:26.360 I would think the castle and the ice cave excursions, 00:14:26.740 --> 00:14:30.259 where we went to go activate a castle. You might 00:14:30.259 --> 00:14:32.320 remember the name of it, Sam, better than me. 00:14:32.620 --> 00:14:38.220 Fishtung Hohenwerfen. Say that three times fast, 00:14:38.340 --> 00:14:42.539 would you? Yeah, and there we did a Castles on 00:14:42.539 --> 00:14:44.960 the Air activation. We got to see this cool bird 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:46.899 presentation or this birds of prey presentation 00:14:46.899 --> 00:14:49.320 where they had these trained eagles and hawks 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:52.299 and raptors and I guess they had vultures there 00:14:52.299 --> 00:14:53.860 as well that would fly around and they talked 00:14:53.860 --> 00:14:56.320 about it. But it was in German so we didn't understand 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.500 too much. Which, by the way, everybody spoke 00:14:59.500 --> 00:15:02.080 English at the camp since they had 30 countries 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:04.779 being represented there. They decided the... 00:15:04.649 --> 00:15:07.070 Camp language would be English, and it turns 00:15:07.070 --> 00:15:08.870 out most people know English pretty well, you 00:15:08.870 --> 00:15:12.090 know, with all the accents and countries that 00:15:12.090 --> 00:15:17.610 came. It was no problem for us at all. I could 00:15:17.610 --> 00:15:19.230 bring up the schedule. There was a whole schedule 00:15:19.230 --> 00:15:23.490 of activities to remind me, but Sam, why don't 00:15:23.490 --> 00:15:27.529 you take care of the last half of the week? We 00:15:27.529 --> 00:15:30.730 did a couple of really interesting things, and 00:15:30.730 --> 00:15:33.950 I thought one of the strongest points was the 00:15:33.950 --> 00:15:38.429 camp. was that we really mixed up between just 00:15:38.429 --> 00:15:41.309 straight -out ham radio workshops and touristy 00:15:41.309 --> 00:15:45.649 activities. So the Castle of Hohenwerfen, the 00:15:45.649 --> 00:15:48.570 Ice Cave were really more touristy than ham radio, 00:15:48.590 --> 00:15:50.370 but we had a little bit of ham radio activity 00:15:50.370 --> 00:15:54.610 mixed in. The Summits on the Air activation was 00:15:54.610 --> 00:15:57.809 a big hike to the top of a couple of mountains 00:15:57.809 --> 00:16:01.090 in Austria, which was beautiful. Austria is majestic. 00:16:02.289 --> 00:16:04.629 And there were three different mountains that 00:16:04.629 --> 00:16:08.049 we could go on, different levels of difficulty, 00:16:08.490 --> 00:16:11.450 and each had a cable car or a ski lift getting 00:16:11.450 --> 00:16:13.529 us most of the way to the top. And then we hiked 00:16:13.529 --> 00:16:16.049 the rest and just stayed up there for a couple 00:16:16.049 --> 00:16:19.750 of hours, socialized and operated a few portable 00:16:19.750 --> 00:16:22.789 stations. And then finally, we did a European 00:16:22.789 --> 00:16:26.509 style fox hunt, which is a bit different than 00:16:26.509 --> 00:16:29.590 what I'm used to here. And that was where you 00:16:29.590 --> 00:16:34.909 had a you were up against the clock to do a 1 00:16:34.909 --> 00:16:38.970 .6 mile course where there were five foxes to 00:16:38.970 --> 00:16:42.610 find, each with a little hole punch on them that 00:16:42.610 --> 00:16:45.350 punches a pattern into your card. So one at a 00:16:45.350 --> 00:16:49.049 time, you'd find each fox, punch your card, and 00:16:49.049 --> 00:16:52.029 the person who won was the person who made it 00:16:52.029 --> 00:16:55.649 back the most quickly. So it was not only a... 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:59.220 a radio direction finding event, but it was also 00:16:59.220 --> 00:17:02.899 an athletic event. If you were the fastest person, 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:09.359 then you would do better. That was a lot of fun. 00:17:13.080 --> 00:17:15.839 Finally, we've done a really good job keeping 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:19.140 in touch with the organizers and the people that 00:17:19.140 --> 00:17:22.339 we participated with. There's been an internet 00:17:22.339 --> 00:17:25.160 chat room that was put up by somebody there to 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:29.200 keep us in touch, and they've done some contests 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:33.740 following. In particular, we had a WSPR contest 00:17:33.740 --> 00:17:35.900 where we took the beacons we made out of our 00:17:35.900 --> 00:17:40.170 raspberry pies. got on the air for a week and 00:17:40.170 --> 00:17:43.829 the person who or the team who had the highest 00:17:43.829 --> 00:17:48.009 average distance of their top ten contacts one 00:17:48.009 --> 00:17:51.349 we we were team u .s .a. was number two to team 00:17:51.349 --> 00:17:53.950 germany uh... we all had a lot of fun and that's 00:17:53.950 --> 00:17:56.289 been uh... keeping us in touch there's a couple 00:17:56.289 --> 00:18:00.529 people um... uh... tutoring each other on morse 00:18:00.529 --> 00:18:03.450 code there's a couple people uh... discussing 00:18:03.450 --> 00:18:08.059 how to put better antennas And they've really 00:18:08.059 --> 00:18:11.079 done a good job making sure that people who are 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:14.079 interested have been able to take the activities 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:17.680 forward. Yeah. Yeah, excellent. And there was 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.599 so much more to it. Like, we also had our OE2 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:24.140 -YOTA Special Event Station there. four HF stations 00:18:24.140 --> 00:18:28.859 and a 120 foot tall portable mobile tower with 00:18:28.859 --> 00:18:30.839 a big Optibeam on it. And we had this operating. 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:34.220 We made over 7 ,000 USOs on it during the week. 00:18:34.299 --> 00:18:36.940 And that was a big focus point for the group. 00:18:36.980 --> 00:18:40.039 So that was a lot of fun. And even a little volleyball, 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:43.440 I heard. Yeah, volleyball as well as a lake trip, 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:47.299 a swimming trip we went on. So it sounds like 00:18:47.299 --> 00:18:50.779 there's a good balance there to try to get people 00:18:50.779 --> 00:18:55.480 together. So now that you're back, Sam, and you've 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:59.180 had a few weeks to kind of reminisce and decompress 00:18:59.180 --> 00:19:03.799 about the trip, what did you learn from that 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:11.019 experience that is possibly going to help start 00:19:11.019 --> 00:19:16.289 a similar event here in the US? Well, that is 00:19:16.289 --> 00:19:20.509 quite a big subject of a conversation but we 00:19:20.509 --> 00:19:23.609 hit on a few already and one of them that I thought 00:19:23.609 --> 00:19:27.970 was one of the best was the balance between amateur 00:19:27.970 --> 00:19:34.890 radio activities and some time off so that Socialization 00:19:34.890 --> 00:19:38.369 and resting and going out to bars could occur 00:19:38.369 --> 00:19:44.400 and some activities that were just playing touristy, 00:19:44.539 --> 00:19:48.660 like going to see the ice cave and going to the 00:19:48.660 --> 00:19:51.980 lake and playing beach volleyball. It was a really 00:19:51.980 --> 00:19:56.819 good mix up. The activities were well geared 00:19:56.819 --> 00:20:01.819 towards both hams who were new and hams who were 00:20:01.819 --> 00:20:04.579 pretty experienced. That was one thing that took 00:20:04.579 --> 00:20:08.900 me by surprise was the this was definitely not 00:20:08.900 --> 00:20:11.819 really it was not an introductory camp i thought 00:20:11.819 --> 00:20:15.259 it was much more of kind of an interview camp 00:20:15.259 --> 00:20:19.960 geared towards uh intermediate to advanced uh 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:22.140 youths but there were there were some of everybody 00:20:22.140 --> 00:20:25.200 and some of the kids uh really enjoyed the ability 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:28.339 to uh grab a time shift on the station a lot 00:20:28.339 --> 00:20:30.910 of them turned out to be really good operators 00:20:30.910 --> 00:20:33.869 who had just never had the opportunity to operate 00:20:33.869 --> 00:20:38.430 such a good station and never did things like 00:20:38.430 --> 00:20:40.950 figuring out, oh, my antenna is pointed this 00:20:40.950 --> 00:20:43.670 way because their antennas were just dipoles 00:20:43.670 --> 00:20:49.450 in their yards. I think the activities themselves 00:20:49.450 --> 00:20:54.029 were quite good. There was a lot of diversity. 00:20:54.509 --> 00:20:57.769 There were some optional workshops in which we 00:20:57.769 --> 00:21:01.269 had a There's some things where they explain 00:21:01.269 --> 00:21:05.750 de -expeditions, some workshops on cell phone 00:21:05.750 --> 00:21:09.329 technology, some emergency communications gear. 00:21:09.970 --> 00:21:12.390 There was also a lot of tying together of the 00:21:12.390 --> 00:21:16.589 workshops. The emergency communications antennas 00:21:16.589 --> 00:21:20.190 or portable antennas that we made, which were 00:21:20.190 --> 00:21:23.849 just these simple and fed high -C antennas that 00:21:23.849 --> 00:21:27.819 worked down to about 20 meters. We did those 00:21:27.819 --> 00:21:31.079 one day we built them and then later we took 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:34.960 them up on the Castle and that's where we did 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:38.059 our castle on the air activation. So that the 00:21:38.059 --> 00:21:42.700 stuff kept being carried forward Finally, I think 00:21:42.700 --> 00:21:44.960 one of the strongest parts of the event was that 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:49.240 they focused on Intermediate -level hams people 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:53.880 who were a bit older in some cases and they really 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:58.339 they sold it more and did it more as a an event 00:21:58.339 --> 00:22:02.160 to let people who have interest who want to flex 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:05.299 their muscles flex their muscles and find people 00:22:05.299 --> 00:22:08.339 to quit with and I think that's why there's a 00:22:08.339 --> 00:22:10.299 hundred and twenty five participants in this 00:22:10.299 --> 00:22:13.319 chat room that we started at the end of it and 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:15.539 most of us still talk about things and we're 00:22:15.539 --> 00:22:18.779 all trying to advance in some way so certainly 00:22:18.779 --> 00:22:21.599 a lot of other things to discuss I think those 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.960 were the main points though. Okay, so sterling 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:30.599 now that we've got these ideas How are the plans 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:33.740 coming for you know trying to do something like 00:22:33.740 --> 00:22:37.240 this where where is this sitting now and and 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:42.299 What are you guys hoping to? organize in the 00:22:42.299 --> 00:22:46.880 next year or so Well, this is a big heavy -loaded 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:48.380 question because one thing Sam didn't mention 00:22:48.380 --> 00:22:51.559 is the amount of planning and effort and the 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:54.480 five years prior to this of learning about what 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:57.680 was good, what was bad. This was a very, very 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:01.160 well -run camp and it was done, it couldn't have 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:05.299 been done without the, I think, about 30 volunteer 00:23:05.299 --> 00:23:08.279 leaders who helped. This was performed mainly 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:12.420 by the Austrian Radio Club Society who had a 00:23:12.420 --> 00:23:17.259 lot of very talented project engineers and leaders, 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:21.019 and people were very into, and knew a lot about 00:23:21.019 --> 00:23:24.480 teaching and leading, and especially with a youth 00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:27.259 group like this. There was a lot of negotiations 00:23:27.259 --> 00:23:29.759 with pricing, there was a lot of sponsorships, 00:23:30.099 --> 00:23:32.880 tons of sponsorships actually, like well over 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:37.039 a couple dozen. from companies and donors and 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.720 everything like that. So the plans are really, 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:41.920 really in truly early stages. Currently we're 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.119 writing a sort of a proposal, sort of a lessons 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:46.920 learned. What have we learned from this event 00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:49.920 that we're gonna send off to the guys who sent 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:53.039 us there, NCDXF and Yasme. And currently I'm 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.019 talking with a lot of interested people around. 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:00.460 Eventually I'll be seeing... what the ARRL thinks 00:24:00.460 --> 00:24:02.819 of this, if they can help support us in the future, 00:24:03.460 --> 00:24:08.339 as well as looking into venues, locations, and 00:24:08.339 --> 00:24:10.940 then also finding the people, like this has to 00:24:10.940 --> 00:24:12.539 get out, the word has to get out to everyone, 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:16.470 all the young hams out there. so that we actually 00:24:16.470 --> 00:24:19.049 have people involved and Jamboree on the air 00:24:19.049 --> 00:24:20.970 of the Boy Scouts has a lot of this covered so 00:24:20.970 --> 00:24:22.650 we're going to try to leverage a lot of what 00:24:22.650 --> 00:24:26.849 they know about youth and ham radio and using 00:24:26.849 --> 00:24:30.609 ham radio to get a lot of credit and badges and 00:24:30.609 --> 00:24:34.109 as well as get more youth on the air from that 00:24:34.109 --> 00:24:36.789 event to help us with this camp that'll be mainly 00:24:36.789 --> 00:24:39.470 focused to about ham radio as opposed to focused 00:24:39.470 --> 00:24:43.990 on scouting and camping and that sort of thing. 00:24:45.940 --> 00:24:48.259 We don't know how long it's going to take at 00:24:48.259 --> 00:24:51.200 this moment. It's right now just Sam and I and, 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.339 you know, one or two other people out there. 00:24:53.819 --> 00:24:56.319 And so I'm expecting this to snowball very soon 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.839 once we get this article out and a few newsletters 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:01.940 and really get the word out about our intentions 00:25:01.940 --> 00:25:06.940 of bringing this to Ira Eugene too. Very good. 00:25:07.220 --> 00:25:10.440 Well, get your questions ready folks. We're going 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:14.150 to uh, take a break and pay part of the bills, 00:25:14.150 --> 00:25:18.069 but, uh, we'll be back here just shortly to take 00:25:18.069 --> 00:25:21.390 your calls after this message from the ham station 00:25:21.390 --> 00:25:27.690 right here on ham talk live. This episode of 00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:30.869 ham talk live is brought to you by the ham station 00:25:30.869 --> 00:25:33.430 for 35 years. 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That's the name 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.940 at ham talk live on Twitter or you can post in 00:27:49.940 --> 00:27:54.019 the chat We can do that as well So if you have 00:27:54.019 --> 00:27:56.660 any questions about youngsters on the air or 00:27:56.660 --> 00:28:00.000 want to talk about it, give us a call again 812 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:07.380 -638 -4261 So while you guys were over there 00:28:07.380 --> 00:28:10.680 And while we're waiting on some questions to 00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:15.670 come in and some calls You guys had a chance 00:28:15.670 --> 00:28:18.970 to do a little little sightseeing while you were 00:28:18.970 --> 00:28:21.789 over there did you get to do any operating on 00:28:21.789 --> 00:28:26.430 your own away from the camp or just just Tour 00:28:26.430 --> 00:28:29.809 around and take in the sights. What what were 00:28:29.809 --> 00:28:34.539 you able to to do there? Well, I didn't do much 00:28:34.539 --> 00:28:37.000 operating aside from the camp, but I did do a 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:40.380 lot of sightseeing. I went and hung out in Munich 00:28:40.380 --> 00:28:43.960 for the Saturday after the camp was over to hang 00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:47.539 out with one of my college friends, college peers 00:28:47.539 --> 00:28:49.960 from my Mars Rover team. That was really cool. 00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:52.720 He took me up to a clock tower where you can 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.269 climb up, I think, 14 flights of stairs. So that 00:28:56.269 --> 00:28:57.549 was really cool and it was really convenient 00:28:57.549 --> 00:29:00.170 too because my fiance and I are planning on going 00:29:00.170 --> 00:29:04.230 to do like a European tour this Christmas. We're 00:29:04.230 --> 00:29:05.670 going to like five different countries and the 00:29:05.670 --> 00:29:08.609 whole idea of going to Europe is much more settled 00:29:08.609 --> 00:29:11.589 with me now that I've gone there, saw some sites 00:29:11.589 --> 00:29:15.829 and kind of understand how to spread your wings 00:29:15.829 --> 00:29:18.630 in the European country. It was a whole new thing 00:29:18.630 --> 00:29:20.589 to me because I've never been out of the country 00:29:20.589 --> 00:29:27.759 that far. I think during the camp, there were 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.680 certainly some opportunities to do it around 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:34.259 the Grime, which was the little Austrian ski 00:29:34.259 --> 00:29:40.420 town that we were in. I was more concerned there 00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:44.539 with some photography than getting on the radio. 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:52.660 We did go and work OE2 Yoda by attaching S57LR's 00:29:52.660 --> 00:29:56.519 FT817 to the screen in the window and loading 00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:02.549 it up. only to stroke a c two l r c here in the 00:30:02.549 --> 00:30:04.970 law and pass the microphone the sterling only 00:30:04.970 --> 00:30:08.349 to stroke and zero s s c that's two contacts 00:30:08.349 --> 00:30:12.769 rates but i did go see uh... salsburg for two 00:30:12.769 --> 00:30:16.130 days afterwards it's all munich for the last 00:30:16.130 --> 00:30:20.170 day uh... and i had a good time but that the 00:30:20.170 --> 00:30:22.369 touristy stuff that we did as part of the campus 00:30:22.369 --> 00:30:26.109 uh... phenomenal getting to see the castle the 00:30:26.109 --> 00:30:30.039 uh... the we took the tour of the castle We saw 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:35.200 the birds of prey show. Meanwhile, another group 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:39.400 was in the Ice Rising Vault, the largest ice 00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.480 cave in Austria and maybe the world. So then 00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:47.299 we switched around noon and the two groups did 00:30:47.299 --> 00:30:51.359 alternate activities. So there was plenty to 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:54.859 see and not to mention I want to go skiing in 00:30:54.859 --> 00:31:01.289 Austria now. So maybe planning a return visit 00:31:01.289 --> 00:31:05.829 is that a fair assessment? I think that's called 00:31:05.829 --> 00:31:10.289 Friedrichshafen. There you go, there you go. 00:31:10.470 --> 00:31:14.390 There's a lot of notion that a lot of the people 00:31:14.390 --> 00:31:16.710 that I met there meet Friedrichshafen and you 00:31:16.710 --> 00:31:18.890 know that's something I've been thinking about 00:31:18.890 --> 00:31:21.529 for a few years now as a way to break the ice 00:31:21.529 --> 00:31:24.630 and go to Europe. So the icebreaker turned out 00:31:24.630 --> 00:31:26.490 to be something completely different, but you 00:31:26.490 --> 00:31:30.990 know, what fun would it be to go and see this 00:31:30.990 --> 00:31:35.750 and maybe operate for a day or two at some of 00:31:35.750 --> 00:31:39.309 my new friends' stations, make a special QSL 00:31:39.309 --> 00:31:41.569 card for anybody I work and just have a good 00:31:41.569 --> 00:31:45.170 time. Yeah, it sounds like it was a good time. 00:31:45.170 --> 00:31:49.309 I saw a lot of your pictures and you did get 00:31:49.309 --> 00:31:54.000 some nice photography work in over there and 00:31:54.000 --> 00:32:00.859 even a meal and a beverage or two. Yes, probably 00:32:00.859 --> 00:32:03.779 one of the best aspects of the event and one 00:32:03.779 --> 00:32:06.319 of the hardest we would have recreating in the 00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:11.700 US is in Europe most drinking ages are between 00:32:11.700 --> 00:32:16.700 16 and 18. I showed up at the intercultural night 00:32:16.700 --> 00:32:20.380 they did which was basically bring something 00:32:20.380 --> 00:32:24.460 from your country. Bring some food, dessert or 00:32:24.460 --> 00:32:28.119 something from your country. And there were all 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:32.740 kinds of pastries and snacks. Yeah. Cultural 00:32:32.740 --> 00:32:35.740 dress. Everybody had their flag shown. Yeah. 00:32:36.220 --> 00:32:38.160 And so, you know, if I did this again, I would 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.920 have brought a couple of nice things, bourbon 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.480 whiskey. That would have been very American. 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.359 But instead, we just had a whole bunch of... 00:32:46.670 --> 00:32:49.650 crummy mass market confections and twinkies, 00:32:49.789 --> 00:32:53.150 some KitKats, some Snickers and a bunch of glow 00:32:53.150 --> 00:32:58.170 sticks. They really like that. Red, white and 00:32:58.170 --> 00:33:01.230 blue. You didn't dress up like Justin Bieber 00:33:01.230 --> 00:33:07.009 from the U S not from Canada. Okay. Okay. I mean, 00:33:07.049 --> 00:33:12.089 I can't say Miley Cyrus, but V three yet, but 00:33:12.089 --> 00:33:15.410 we have team W two for the first time that this 00:33:15.410 --> 00:33:21.809 camp. Yeah, they're really expanding. We actually 00:33:21.809 --> 00:33:24.230 thought we were going to be mentors or leaders 00:33:24.230 --> 00:33:26.589 because we thought it was going to be youngsters, 00:33:26.950 --> 00:33:28.910 as in young people, as in people younger than 00:33:28.910 --> 00:33:31.690 us. But that was totally not the case. The youngest 00:33:31.690 --> 00:33:33.750 person there was 15 and I think the oldest was 00:33:33.750 --> 00:33:37.849 26 or 27. I know Sam, you were up there. No, 00:33:38.430 --> 00:33:40.769 the oldest person I was aware of who was with 00:33:40.769 --> 00:33:44.700 a team was 32. One of the Polish team members 00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:47.259 I think the team leader and he was a very interesting 00:33:47.259 --> 00:33:51.119 guy. He works on Installing things on radio and 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.880 comms towers So we were talking about security 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.079 cameras that they were putting up on borders 00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.299 and what infrastructure he had to put up to support 00:34:00.299 --> 00:34:04.420 that Yeah, like I said, that was one of the things 00:34:04.420 --> 00:34:07.799 that I was like, okay Wait a minute. I know these 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:13.690 guys are not you know or at least over 21, what's 00:34:13.690 --> 00:34:15.809 going on with that? We have to consider something 00:34:15.809 --> 00:34:18.449 like that, you know, because it might be really 00:34:18.449 --> 00:34:20.889 shocking to hear, you know, for a lot of people 00:34:20.889 --> 00:34:23.210 who want to, like you, who want to help organize 00:34:23.210 --> 00:34:26.449 and garner some youth for it, that they'll be 00:34:26.449 --> 00:34:28.170 surprised to hear, oh, you know, my 7 -year -old 00:34:28.170 --> 00:34:29.829 or my 10 - or 13 -year -old, they're not allowed? 00:34:30.010 --> 00:34:33.329 What for? So we might look into changing the 00:34:33.329 --> 00:34:34.909 age and changing a whole bunch of things. It's 00:34:34.909 --> 00:34:38.710 just going to be a big project. Well, and maybe 00:34:38.710 --> 00:34:43.710 that you have... better selection of those younger 00:34:43.710 --> 00:34:47.809 younger ages here in the US that they may not 00:34:47.809 --> 00:34:51.389 have over there I know some countries actually 00:34:51.389 --> 00:34:56.150 do have an age requirement on the yeah license 00:34:56.150 --> 00:35:01.150 even so yeah and you know when I took when I 00:35:01.150 --> 00:35:06.170 took my novice class You know, there was an age 00:35:06.170 --> 00:35:09.170 limit of 13 on it and here I am walking in at 00:35:09.170 --> 00:35:12.489 five You know and dad's just like well, you know, 00:35:12.489 --> 00:35:15.550 he's just gonna sit here with me, you know and 00:35:15.550 --> 00:35:17.789 come with me He'll be quiet. He won't cause any 00:35:17.789 --> 00:35:20.710 trouble and and you know, and then all of a sudden 00:35:20.710 --> 00:35:23.909 when I start copying code Everybody starts looking 00:35:23.909 --> 00:35:27.530 around going Why do we have this 13 year old 00:35:27.530 --> 00:35:32.230 age requirement? So You know it all worked out 00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:35.800 and got my license and You know, and that paved 00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:41.360 the way, I think, for a lot of others to start 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.360 out at that kind of, you know, that young of 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:49.380 an age. So, you know, it may be that you have 00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:53.139 to change that, but then, you know, you also 00:35:53.139 --> 00:35:56.519 have issues with, you know, are you going to 00:35:56.519 --> 00:36:01.299 trust your six -year -old kid at a camp? With 00:36:01.299 --> 00:36:04.800 liability. Strangers and liability. Yeah. Yeah, 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.079 so there's a lot to consider. But at the same 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:08.920 time, yeah, at the same time I needed, because 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.019 ham radio was the reason why I got the jobs that 00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:13.139 I did and that I went to the school that I did 00:36:13.139 --> 00:36:16.199 and I feel like, you know, we don't want to exclude 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:18.320 anybody from learning about ham radio and doing 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:19.860 these cool things that really, you know, set 00:36:19.860 --> 00:36:25.079 the hook and, you know. or how you get the bug 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.099 of ham radio, you get bit by the bug. This sort 00:36:28.099 --> 00:36:31.699 of stuff really inspired me to get more involved 00:36:31.699 --> 00:36:33.940 in promoting youth and promoting ham radio to 00:36:33.940 --> 00:36:37.059 youth. So the same thing goes for young people. 00:36:37.099 --> 00:36:39.219 We want more young people so that we can have 00:36:39.219 --> 00:36:41.460 more people in STEM fields, for example. You 00:36:41.460 --> 00:36:46.699 know what I mean? Certainly. Much like I presented 00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:50.719 on at the instructors forum. Hamvention that 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.860 really benefits young people who are Going into 00:36:54.860 --> 00:36:57.659 universities and then who are coming out certainly 00:36:57.659 --> 00:37:00.539 Radar and radio have a lot in common. They're 00:37:00.539 --> 00:37:02.699 the same thing for a different purpose and ham 00:37:02.699 --> 00:37:06.840 radio I think Gave me the advantage in college 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.280 of not just being oh that guy who's done his 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.300 coursework and what's well everybody has well 00:37:12.300 --> 00:37:14.900 How are you gonna appear different than how are 00:37:14.900 --> 00:37:17.039 you gonna appear to have some sort of advantage 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.719 and to me that was dealing with the ham radio. 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:26.179 I think one of the big things that we learned 00:37:26.179 --> 00:37:29.760 here was that, at least in my opinion, I don't 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.579 know how true this is, but from my perception, 00:37:32.699 --> 00:37:37.619 I believe the energy directed towards outreach 00:37:37.619 --> 00:37:43.179 to young hams in the U .S. is directed, maybe 00:37:43.179 --> 00:37:47.072 it's not directed necessarily to young, but it's 00:37:47.070 --> 00:37:50.869 there's not enough of it directed at kind of 00:37:50.869 --> 00:37:54.789 college age and young adult hams, the way that 00:37:54.789 --> 00:37:58.510 it seemed to have been in Europe. And again, 00:37:58.510 --> 00:38:00.170 I don't know if that's a correct perception, 00:38:00.210 --> 00:38:01.929 but at least that's how I feel it is. We have 00:38:01.929 --> 00:38:04.670 big programs like A111, a big project, which 00:38:04.670 --> 00:38:08.210 are focused on middle schools and high schools. 00:38:08.969 --> 00:38:12.130 And then at that point, the kids are kind of 00:38:12.130 --> 00:38:14.070 turned loose. And I think there's a lot to be 00:38:14.070 --> 00:38:16.530 lost there, especially if you build kids up at 00:38:16.530 --> 00:38:20.539 that point and then don't take them further so 00:38:20.539 --> 00:38:25.760 Yoda probably adapted for the US really could 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.960 be a building block in the next step you know 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:33.059 we expose people to more advanced activities 00:38:33.059 --> 00:38:36.920 you know have ice breakers spend a week with 00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:41.480 people your age camp and then keep in touch when 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:45.289 you leave And all in all, it's mutually beneficial 00:38:45.289 --> 00:38:46.969 because, you know, all of the young people that 00:38:46.969 --> 00:38:51.050 came back to their respective country were inspired 00:38:51.050 --> 00:38:54.130 like us. And here we are trying to bring this 00:38:54.130 --> 00:38:57.550 to the U .S. and our region too, and other countries 00:38:57.550 --> 00:39:00.409 that don't have it. And the same goes for them. 00:39:00.570 --> 00:39:03.909 They're bringing the idea that young people in 00:39:03.909 --> 00:39:06.929 ham radio are not a dime a dozen. They're actually, 00:39:07.750 --> 00:39:09.789 or the other way around, are not a diamond in 00:39:09.789 --> 00:39:13.340 the rough. They're actually tons of them. There's 00:39:13.340 --> 00:39:16.780 literally dozens of us out there who are into 00:39:16.780 --> 00:39:19.840 this, and we need to know that as young people 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:24.019 so that we stay interested and included and inspired. 00:39:25.420 --> 00:39:30.280 812 -638 -4261. 812 Net Ham 1. If you have a 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.159 question or a comment for Sam Rose and Sterling 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:36.519 Coffee, we have just a few minutes remaining. 00:39:36.969 --> 00:39:41.010 So if you want to call in, give us a call or 00:39:41.010 --> 00:39:45.190 post something on chat or on Twitter, we will 00:39:45.190 --> 00:39:52.750 sure talk about it. The fox hunt, Sam, that you 00:39:52.750 --> 00:39:55.750 were telling me about back in the news line segment, 00:39:57.150 --> 00:40:00.230 that really fascinated me. And they do that on 00:40:00.230 --> 00:40:04.050 80 meters. Yes, with ferrite bar antennas, which 00:40:04.050 --> 00:40:09.099 are very bi -directional. So they have these 00:40:09.099 --> 00:40:12.300 small transmitters when they use these custom 00:40:12.300 --> 00:40:15.679 -built receivers, which I think is probably a 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:21.059 very simple receiver. And the ferrite bar antenna 00:40:21.059 --> 00:40:23.920 is much more compact than a Yagi that you would 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:29.389 use on VHF or UHF even. And it's remarkably good 00:40:29.389 --> 00:40:32.590 for that because it has strong nulls on either 00:40:32.590 --> 00:40:36.090 side. Now they put some sort of second antenna 00:40:36.090 --> 00:40:38.210 on the thing. It was a little whip on one side 00:40:38.210 --> 00:40:41.329 that you could press a red button on the box 00:40:41.329 --> 00:40:43.530 and it would activate that and that would attenuate 00:40:43.530 --> 00:40:46.409 it to one side so that you could disambiguate 00:40:46.409 --> 00:40:49.110 which side of the ferrite bar you were listening 00:40:49.110 --> 00:40:52.650 on. And that really just meant which side of 00:40:52.650 --> 00:40:56.090 the road is the thing on for the run that we 00:40:56.090 --> 00:40:59.369 did. Now on Sterling's Twitter, I believe you 00:40:59.369 --> 00:41:04.809 can watch his run. He was the video guy. I was 00:41:04.809 --> 00:41:07.170 the still pictures guy. And so he had a GoPro 00:41:07.170 --> 00:41:10.530 on when he did this run. So you can see exactly 00:41:10.530 --> 00:41:14.809 what we did on Sterling's Twitter. That's n0ssc 00:41:14.809 --> 00:41:19.210 on Twitter. We'll try to retweet that, actually. 00:41:19.469 --> 00:41:22.789 Sure. It was intense. I got sweaty, I fell a 00:41:22.789 --> 00:41:26.130 few times, I got wet. It was really a great cross 00:41:26.130 --> 00:41:31.929 -country run. In fact, right now, the 18th World 00:41:31.929 --> 00:41:34.409 ARDF Championships is going on right now until 00:41:34.409 --> 00:41:37.949 tomorrow, I believe. And U .S. actually has a 00:41:37.949 --> 00:41:39.409 team there. I don't know how well they're doing, 00:41:39.690 --> 00:41:42.710 but that's currently going on right now. Yeah, 00:41:43.090 --> 00:41:45.949 it's a much more exhilarating event than your 00:41:45.949 --> 00:41:50.610 typical Foxconn. I've been used to doing it in 00:41:50.610 --> 00:41:55.730 the States. Yeah, that sounded really interesting. 00:41:56.250 --> 00:41:58.130 It'd be cool to bring that to the U .S. too. 00:41:58.690 --> 00:42:01.730 Yeah, that was exactly what I was getting ready 00:42:01.730 --> 00:42:05.110 to say was you think you'll do it that style? 00:42:06.130 --> 00:42:09.289 Can you get a chance to do this here? Yeah, because 00:42:09.289 --> 00:42:11.710 all we've done before is like the, you know, 00:42:11.809 --> 00:42:13.969 there's a fox out in your city and you got to 00:42:13.969 --> 00:42:17.369 go find it and, you know, drive to it with your... 00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:20.139 tape measure Yagi, but this is a totally different 00:42:20.139 --> 00:42:21.980 thing. You got a map, you have to have a compass, 00:42:22.139 --> 00:42:24.840 you got to go run for it, and you're racing against 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:27.460 everybody. So everybody loves competition. Everybody 00:42:27.460 --> 00:42:29.780 loves games. And I really think something like 00:42:29.780 --> 00:42:32.119 that would be great to have over here because 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.300 I don't know if we do it. And we certainly don't 00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:40.579 do it enough if we do. Yeah, I agree. Well, we're 00:42:40.579 --> 00:42:43.239 just about out of time. So if there's anything 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.139 you guys want to throw in here We've we've got 00:42:46.139 --> 00:42:52.760 about a minute to To wrap things up Unintended 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:57.420 No, I I think I've said it I mean there's still 00:42:57.420 --> 00:43:00.079 so much to talk about with with Yoda and we still 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.179 have so much go to go Forward and in bringing 00:43:03.179 --> 00:43:08.079 it over Now for sure while I you know, first 00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.159 of all, I really appreciate the time on tonight 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.039 There's so much more to talk about but we'll 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:17.659 be we'll be putting together the what we think 00:43:17.659 --> 00:43:21.340 about Whatever our event turns into we hope it's 00:43:21.340 --> 00:43:24.099 gonna be successful We think it will be and you 00:43:24.099 --> 00:43:27.219 know I'm always looking forward if they're to 00:43:27.219 --> 00:43:29.800 working with whoever is interested in getting 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:33.199 together to Form this event. So absolutely feel 00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.139 free to contact us Get in touch with us keywords 00:43:36.139 --> 00:43:41.260 ed .com for me For sterling. Yeah in zero SSC. 00:43:41.260 --> 00:43:47.380 Just Google me Okay, so N0SSE and KC2LRC are 00:43:47.380 --> 00:43:49.760 the call signs and yeah, I want to hear more 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.960 about this and if I can interject some things 00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:57.679 into to helping out on that, I'd absolutely love 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.500 to. So guys, thanks for being on the show tonight. 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:03.440 We sure appreciate it. Thank you. I really appreciate 00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:05.719 the opportunity to talk about it. Yeah, thanks 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:09.489 for having us tonight. All right. Well, that's 00:44:09.489 --> 00:44:12.489 a wrap for this week's edition of HamTalk Live. 00:44:13.130 --> 00:44:16.250 Thanks to Sam Rose, KC2LRC, and Sterling Coffee 00:44:16.250 --> 00:44:20.590 N0 SSC and everybody out there listening in cyberspace 00:44:20.590 --> 00:44:23.710 and invite you all back next Thursday night at 00:44:23.710 --> 00:44:28.429 9 p .m. Eastern Time when Skyler Fennell, KD0WHB, 00:44:28.610 --> 00:44:32.130 the 2016 Bill Pasternak amateur radio news line 00:44:32.130 --> 00:44:35.360 Young Ham of the Year We'll be here to talk about 00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:39.139 his award and his future plans. For a list of 00:44:39.139 --> 00:44:41.219 all of our upcoming guests, be sure to visit 00:44:41.219 --> 00:44:44.500 HamTalkLive .com. For now, this is Neil Rapp, 00:44:44.659 --> 00:44:49.639 WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may the good DX 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:50.719 be yours.