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websites. Skyler Fennell, KDZero WHV is 18 years
old from Denver, Colorado. He's an amateur extra
class license holder since 2014. He became a
ham in 2013. Skyler is the 2016 AWRL Rocky Mountain
Division Young Ham of the Year, as well as the
recipient of the Rocky Mountain Division Technical
Achievement Award this year. At the Huntsville
Ham Fest last month, he was presented with the
2016 Bill Pasternak WA6ITF Amateur Radio Newsline
Young Ham of the Year Award. Skyler's interest
in basic electronics began when he was in the
fourth grade. He built a laser spiral graph,
audio amplifiers, and a high voltage transformer
driver or two. And a high school friend, Jordan
Walters, KD0MLV, introduced Skyler to amateur
radio when he was a freshman in high school.
That led Skyler to becoming a ham and engaging
in many technical projects. Schuyler started
operating satellites and became a net control
and webmaster of the Colorado satellite net.
He began working with the AB0BX STEM school amateur
radio club in nearby Littleton, Colorado and
got involved in the group's near space balloon
launches. He became project manager for its 440
megahertz repeater and helped put together an
all -star and echo link repeater for students,
serving as a mentor for the construction of the
project. He also added All -Star to several area
repeaters. Skyler started the Denver School of
the Arts Amateur Radio Club in August 2015 and
was trustee of the club called KE0FXH. This past
May, Skyler spoke at the Youth Forum at the Dayton
Hamvention on the topic, Home Brewing on a Budget.
He is an Eagle Scout, a rank he achieved at age
13. He also combined his interest in cycling
and amateur radio, assembling a bicycle mobile
setup with VHF and UHF radios. Skyler is also
an accomplished pianist and earned the first
place trophy in the recent U .S. international
duo piano competition in Colorado Springs this
past February. He's currently a freshman at New
Mexico Tech, where he is majoring in electrical
engineering. So Skyler, welcome to HamTalk Live!
Thanks so much for having me tonight. It's a
pleasure to be here and I'm excited for the show
tonight. Anyway, sounds like you have a pretty
cool amateur radio club there with a lot of students
and really excited to speak with you tonight.
Yeah, we've had some really good luck with that.
I know you've met a couple of those students.
and we've had a good time and I know that the
STEM school group you know I know a couple of
people out there and that's an excellent group
also so glad you were able to participate in
things with them. We're also joined tonight by
amateur radio news lines Karen Eve Marie Katie
to GUT We talked to Don Wilbanks a e5dw and he
had planned on being here but somehow we kind
of mixed up which week it was and Then this week
he came up with some lame excuse that it was
his wedding anniversary and he probably shouldn't
miss that so Don's not here But, as we lovingly
call her at Amateur Radio Newsline, Karen the
News Squirrel is with us tonight. Hi, Karen!
How are you doing, Neil? I'm very pleased to
be here. I'm also very pleased that Don Will
Banks is a good husband, a good and loving husband
to his wife, and is off celebrating. I hope we
can do this award and Schuyler justice in Dawn's
absence and get the message out about Young Ham
of the Year. Absolutely. So happy anniversary
to Dawn and Dawn and Dawn's wife, Dawn, deserves
a medal for being married to Dawn. That's a good
thing. So Dawn, thanks for all of that. We teach
a lot of things in school. We teach a lot of,
you know, science and history and math and English
and everything. And you get to learn a lot about
those things and you've had a chance to learn
a lot about science. And then at the School for
the Arts, you focused a lot on your music and
all kinds of things. But there's one thing that
they may not teach you and that is you don't
forget birthdays and anniversaries. Okay, Don
may be a little crazy at times, but he's very
smart man That's one of those life lessons that
you just got to pick up along the way so So now
that you've been the the young ham of the year
for a few weeks how did you enjoy your trip to
Huntsville and the award ceremony and and Tell
us about what what's happened since? Well, I
had a great time in Huntsville it was kind of
a hectic week though. We drove down with my dad
down to New Mexico from Colorado to set up a
college. We had to take a flight out Friday just
to make it to Huntsville Friday night. But of
course the flight got canceled. So we arrived
there at around noon on Saturday and had a great
time at the ceremony and met a lot of great people.
Chris, the Hiram -Percy Maximum Award, he's a
great kid. And unfortunately had to leave Sunday
morning to get back to college and start on Monday.
So kind of a busy weekend, but I had a great
time in Alabama. Yeah, I'm sorry. I had to miss
it. I had planned on being there. It just wasn't
working out in the schedule. I kept trying to
move everything around and it just didn't work.
Huntsville is always a great time and I'm glad
you got to be there and you got to see Chris.
Chris is quite a trip himself. Glad you got to
do that. So, Karen, I know you've got to run
here before too long. Stay with us however long
you can. But why don't you take a moment to tell
us about how Newsline heard about Schuyler and
his accomplishments and how he was selected as
this year's Young Ham of the Year. Absolutely.
Absolutely, Neil. We had a pretty big pool of
contenders this year. All of them very tough
competition, so I don't envy the committee. That
was not an easy decision to make. Now, Skyler,
you had two people who were very much in agreement
on wanting you to be Young Ham of the Year and
sent in their applications. This was not an easy
task for one of the folks who nominated you because
computer glitches being what they are, The computer
containing your nomination froze up and could
not be emailed. And we ended up reverting to
good old fashioned snail mail. I had the pleasure
of going to the EO box here in New York and picking
up a hard copy version of an endorsement of you.
And so I confess that while I was scanning it,
to send these scanned pages via email. I read
every page and was completely blown away by what
you have been able to do in such a short amount
of time. And honestly, you embody very much,
I think, the spirit of what Bill Pasternak had
in mind when he created this Young Ham of the
Year Award so many years ago. It's not an easy
decision and the folks in the committee were
impressed by everyone but you were way above
in in so many areas that it just seemed it just
seemed it was going to be you this year and You
have had quite a good year. I must say so things
can only get better as time goes on We are very
excited to watch you develop in the various areas
where your interest lies, and we can't wait to
watch you and see what you're going to do next.
We will be watching, you know that. Well, thanks
so much. Yeah, amateur radio news line. I think
right after I was licensed or maybe even before,
I heard it on just a little VHF radio on the
local repeater. I just really loved listening
in and it's a great program and Bill Pasternak
definitely seems like a really great guy. He
had extremely high standards. I know I'm meeting
him through the friends he left behind when he
passed away and wish I could have known him personally.
To gather some of his wisdom and and also really
to understand why his standards were what they
were They make for a wonderful show certainly
and I'm glad you're a listener but you see in
Being the award recipient you're you're living
out a lot of what he believed in And I think
that's such a good thing. You know, the fact
that you can carry this legacy forward, carry
the hobby forward at a time when technology changes
from day to day, from minute to minute. You know,
you're going to be making a living in it and
this is going to be your hobby and this is your
passion. And you will be mentoring Countless
numbers of people as you as you go into the future
and grow and share Share what you love and what
you believe in and it's just a great thing you
you are a goodwill ambassador for ham radio and
an educator and an advocate and You're only a
college freshman. There's so much more for you
to do yeah Thanks so much and Yeah, I really
look up to all the people who've mentored me
through the hobby and definitely I Keep on that
legacy and mentor other kids get them into the
hobby and Definitely try my best to keep the
hobby going around Well, I think you will be
making news more news. I think you will be making
headlines. I have a feeling This is the first
of many conversations You'll be having with us
And amateur radio news line will certainly be
hearing of you again and again over time all
good all good things and you know, we wish you
so much success and and Discovery and fun because
all of that is ham radio Yeah, definitely well
Skyler While we're talking about inspiring other
kids, and I know that some have inspired you,
why don't you talk a little bit about your inspiration
to Excel and Ham Radio and how you got into that
and some of the things that you did to receive
this award. Said I've always just loved electronics
and always I'm curious about how things work
and that's really what Got me into the hobby
when my friend in ninth grade told me about it.
It just seemed like everything fit perfectly
and when I finally got my license on July of
2013 I Went to my first ham fest with Jordan
my friend Katie zero Mel B and everything there.
It was just everything I would have ever wished
for. I've never, never seen a flea market full
of jungle, not John, but electronics and just
everything I ever want to see. So let's be honest.
Some of it is junk. Not all of it, but some of
it, some of it is junk. I may have been a victim
of the free pile a little too much that first
day. Yeah, that happens. It kicked me back when
I had to go into college and figure out what
to do with all that stuff. But anyway, so after
that I started checking in on nets and really
getting to meet people over the air. And that's
when I started the amateur satellite net. I also
got interested in internet linking and repeaters
through that because of the different links that
I had brought into the net. And eventually I
got worldwide coverage through that amateur satellite
net, and that was a lot of fun. So a lot of the
projects that I've just really loved building
and being a part of or like repeater construction,
high altitude balloon projects. And the STEM
school actually got me interested in their high
altitude balloon team. And from Paul, he heard
me over the net and got me to help with the repeater
project and get that going. But anyway, yeah,
I think just the biggest inspiration Seeing what
I can do with stuff and getting things to work
and maybe not doing what it's intended to do,
but it's always exciting to see some sort of
result and just there's plenty of things you
can do in the hobby and it's just all really
been amazing to me. Very good. Well, you're just
getting started at college. You've just been
there for a few weeks now at New Mexico Tech
and electrical engineering so tell us how that's
going so far and Tell us about the ham radio
club there. It sounds like you've got some good
things Starting back up there at New Mexico Tech
Yeah, um we just had club fair a week ago and
we set up an HF antenna had a VHF stuff set up
as well had a little Fox Hunt demo and a few
other things and actually managed to get 50 members
to sign up so I I was kind of surprised and excited
we got that many because the little high school
club I started baby barely had three showing
up and It's kind of hard to get interest but
I'm glad we had this much interest in the school
and will definitely be working on projects throughout
the year. The first meeting we had about 12 -ish
kids show up, so definitely not the 50, but I
think it was a pretty good turnout and definitely
the club are going to keep it going. I know with
our school it we have two rigs, but only one
real good antenna So, you know, we may use a
rig for listening and some but Trying to manage
We had 20 last year And trying to manage 20 people
in one radio. It's it's a little difficult. So
About a dozen about 12 has been a kind of our
standard number most years and And that seems
to work out pretty well if we plan it right and
rotate people through. So I think if you end
up with a dozen quality members, I think that's
a good thing. Yeah, definitely. And I don't think
only getting on HF will be our primary thing.
I think I'm going to try to bring the technology
in and we're gonna set up a repeater, get it
linked in and work on different projects like
that. Maybe try to get into microwaves and just
try to explore the hobby more. But definitely
we are, our first thing is to work on getting
an actual HF antenna set up and all that figured
out because right now it's just kind of a room
with. No antenna hooked up. There's plenty of
gear in there, but Yeah, okay. So you do have
you do have a room already that that you can
use Yes We Were lucky to keep the room is kind
of in jeopardy over the summer. They're picking
up trying to figure out things but luckily the
Advisor for the club managed to keep the room.
So we're happy about that Yeah, now I've been
in those shoes before when I went away to college
And went to University of Southern, Indiana and
tried to get that club started again We did have
a room that was kind of an arrangement with some
of the telecom Stuff for the university and it
was literally a mop closet There was a sink in
the floor There was an air conditioning unit
that drained into the sink into the floor There
was room for one chair And the humidity was so
high in there with that water that It just destroyed
the contacts on on the radios and so we had to
constantly try to You know revamp stuff and replace
stuff and and we kept trying to Move out of the
mop closet Into some other room that didn't have
the you know that and we tried to get the drain
You know rerouted so that at least it would be
sealed up and everything and and we thought we
were going to be able to move and then All of
a sudden we thought we were gonna have to move
Because they wanted to take that Room and use
it for something else and so, you know, it was
tough We thought we you know, we may end up losing
our space, but fortunately we were able to hang
on to it So I've been in those shoes. So I know
how that goes, but hopefully That'll work out
and that's good If you've already got some gear
and you've got a place to do it why why that
helps and then Now I was I used to be a big repeater
junkie and I still do some repeaters and some
IRLP and echo link linking and streaming of the
repeater and that kind of thing. So, do you have
a nice high site to put your antenna there or
is that going to be a little lower profile system?
Well, there's a few options I'm looking into
right now. There's a big mountain right to the
west of the school. And mountain and and it has
amazing coverage. I can hit hit it with a handheld
in the basement because it's a giant tall mountain
and It's only about maybe three and a half miles
line of sight west So that would be a nice site
And it would be great if we can get up there
unfortunately, it's very hard to get up to the
site because it's the testing facility on the
road up on the way. So it's you have to have
only certain people can go up and there's all
this rules and stuff. So that might be a little
tricky, but that would be option number one.
Number two would be also a pretty good site for
around campus use and probably even 10 miles.
Distance away at least would be just the top
of the big engineering building and that's three
or four floors and it has Already has some antennas
up there for something So, I don't know if we'd
interfere with that or they'd interfere with
us But and the nice thing about that is your
feed line run Your loss is minimal whenever you
do that. So that's always cool. I've only been
able to do that I think once and Well, it sure
was nice to not have to have several hundred
feet of feed line Yeah, that's definitely nice.
And then I guess the third option we would have
to it would be only solar powered and Then unfortunately,
there's also no internet. So we'd have to have
an RF link if we wanted to add one of the linking
systems, and that is Timber Peak, which is right
across from the Magdalene Observatory. It has
a lot of elevation. You can barely see the campus
from it. It's farther west, but it would definitely
also be a good site because I went up on a hike
there and there was a couple solar panels. bunch
of broken antennas and stuff. There's a Wi -Fi
dish like facing towards the dirt. So I think
the school does stuff with that as a relay. They
use that site as they I guess used to use that
site as a relay. Apparently doesn't work now
because it's all broken. But that would be the
third option. And there's probably other stuff.
But we're trying to get it put together so we
can have a good good thing to propose and try
to get a good site. So yeah, that's a Repeater
project. Oh, yeah sounds great and and that's
always the challenge is getting a good site for
those as you know, so that sounds like I Tried
to set up one in my dorm room and I couldn't
even make it around campus Just there's so much
RFI around here on two meters I'm getting all
this pulses and stuff and it I could hear it
around campus. It just couldn't hear me very
well at all Because there's just so much local
interference. Yeah, that runs into things too.
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Skylar Fennel the 2016 Young ham of the year
now while we're waiting on the calls Skylar,
I know that you've done some of these high -altitude
balloon launches, and that seems to be quite
the trend with the Young Ham of the Year award
winners, it seems like. So why don't you fill
us in a little bit on your most recent launch?
Okay, yeah. The most recent launch was with the
club I started up at my school, Denver School
of the Arts. That was a lot of fun. I started
a GoFundMe to raise the funds to launch with
the edge of space sciences and that went pretty
well. And the final decision on the experiment
was an APRS transmitter. We got one donated from
Traxor. We got the parts for an APRS tracker.
We had a last -minute camera that I found in
the basement. Because we have some extra weight
and then the primary payload was a it's called
an electrostatic field mill and it measures the
it's more the DC electric field so not our not
as much RF but the DC field in the atmosphere
and we're testing to see if we could see anything
interesting up there and made a big graph of
time versus the amplitude and saw a lot of spikes
which we thought were lightning and it kind of
varied slowly as it went up and down so we never
quite understood what all the data meant but
it was definitely a fun experiment. Yeah that's
a cool thing to do and I know those are catching
on a lot and it's cool just to even watch on
APRS to just sit back and watch where the thing
is going and watch the altimeter on it and and
see where things can go. So that's that's great
that you were able to to carry that out. 812
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If you have a question or comment for Skyler
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One other thing that we haven't talked about
a whole lot is I Understand you're quite the
accomplished pianist. So so tell us a little
bit about about your music Yeah, well I Started
piano at age seven, I think second grade we got
a baby grand piano donated from my great grandpa
when he had to move to a smaller place and I
always would just pick around on it and try to
play stuff so my parents signed me up for lessons
and of course I hated it initially and I didn't
want to go so she found someone else's Suzuki
method actually where they focused more on More
on the listening and not not jumping right into
the sight reading but and I liked that and Eventually
kept up with piano and a lot of a lot initially
of my parents forcing me but Definitely, I'm
glad I stuck with it. Yeah, and Sometimes they
have to do that. I know about that Yeah So yeah,
recently I've been learning jazz at my school
in the jazz band. I've been exploring other things,
but I've mainly mainly played classical music
for my life and Done that but I'm always always
like to learn new stuff and explore music with
the piano very good now, I played around a little
bit and It's it's always fun to do that. So Congratulations
on all of your accomplishments with that and
also with the Young Ham of the Year Award and
the Rocky Mountain Division Awards. Congratulations
on all of that and just hope that things keep
going well for you out there and especially at
New Mexico Tech. and hope the club gets going
well and the repeater and we'll have to keep
in touch on the repeater stuff. Maybe I can help
you out a little bit on some of that stuff. I've
got a garage full so maybe we can work out something
for you. Yeah, that'd be awesome. That was one
of my big things when I was growing up with repeaters.
I tried to do DX. and see how far away I could
get to repeaters. And just in the last few years,
I've been able to do some of the internet linking
kind of like you're doing. I haven't done the
All -Star, but we've done EchoIRLP and some of
that stuff. And we did a lot of RF linking is
what I did and remote receivers and voting. That
kind of thing and it was fun to play around with
and I've had to cut back on the system some but
Just It's spread too far out across the state
and too much time and money To keep going but
still do a lot with it and it's a lot of fun.
Yeah, I My first deck link that I Set up was
actually an RF link It was, with the Rocky Mount
Radio League, we had their 440 repeater up on
El Dorado Mountain. Unfortunately, they had to
take that machine down. It got too expensive
up there, but anyway, 440 repeater up there,
and then I had a little mobile radio at my place,
which would, it was just a simple input link,
so it just linked like a normal radio, but it
would feed all -star. through the input frequency.
Actually doing it wasn't the hard part, but the
requirements I had to add was kind of crazy.
So the PL tone, the sub audible tone for the
carrier can't be sent to the link because you
don't want all the remote repeaters to hear all
the local stuff like the IDs and courtesy beep.
But the crazy requirement was when there's no
links linked up, we want to be able to send PL
on the carrier. And when there are links, we'll
turn it off. So I had to get some help with the
scripts and have it send DTMF on the first initial
connection up to the repeater and send another
DTMF code after the last connection was lost.
So that was a lot of fun. Trying to get it working,
but it was definitely worth it. Yeah, I've been
through those some of those battles so I know
exactly what you're talking about and Congratulations
on making it work. Sometimes it's difficult to
do that. One last thing here. I know Sterling
in Zero SSE was going to be calling in and he
had to catch a flight. So he's going to have
to listen to this on delay. But he brought up
a video that you guys did with him a couple of
years ago about, you know, Having a radio around
and and you know just having your little bowel
fang and that and that was it So so is your outlook
changed a little bit since then? Well, um, definitely
when you get a bowel fun, there's nowadays a
lot you can do with it I mean, it's cool that
it has extended receives you can listen to different
things and I just don't transmit up there, but
yeah, I still I still use the bowel fun for Talking
into repeaters. There's some features that they
did a good job at a lot of things they I don't
like about it, but the Belfang definitely will
get you pretty far in the hobby and Definitely
for the price. I think it's something worth it
But HF is also a lot of fun and Now you're able
to do that now that you have some some equipment
for that Yeah, definitely that was really nice
of Yezu to give that really nice HF rig, and
I've been playing around with it. It's so many
features. It's a lot of fun. Definitely, I just
like mess around with stuff. The narrow banding
for the commercial radios has really also been
a big outlet because you'll have people just
giving away that stuff. It's really nice for
linking and building different things out of
packet stuff. They're nice radios too. They're
wideband and they're not frequency agile, but
they're really built well on a lot of those commercial
radios that aren't legal anymore for the commercial
service. Yeah, that's really freed up a lot of
stuff. Well, we are out of time, so I'd like
to thank Skyler for coming on. And that's a wrap
for this week's edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks
to everybody out there in cyberspace for listening,
and I'll invite you all back next Thursday night
at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. For a list of all of
our upcoming guests, visit HamTalkLive .com.
So for now, this is Neil rap WB 9 VPG saying
seven three seven five and may the good DX be
yours