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Good evening, everyone. It's time for another

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edition of HamTalk Live. It's episode number

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34, School Club Roundup with Lou Malchik. Into

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our queue. Recorded live on Thursday, October

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6th, 2016. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG.

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Thanks for tuning in to this episode of HamTalk

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Live. Tonight we'll be joined by School Club

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Roundup leader, Lou Malchik. Into our queue.

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and how you can talk to schools during a very

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special week. And we'll take your calls live

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in just a few minutes. Last week, Ralph Fedor

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K0IR was here to talk about the upcoming Bouvier

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Island De -Expedition. If you missed the show,

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you can listen anytime. Just go to HamTalkLive

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.com. You can also download it on a podcasting

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app. through a service like iTunes, Stitcher,

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Google Play, TuneIn, SoundCloud, or you can even

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catch us over on YouTube. Tonight we're talking

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about some operating activities that are open

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to everyone. We have several, so first a few

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quick reminders. Coming up this weekend on the

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air it's the 100 watts and a wire fallout. Get

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outside if you can with 100 watts or less and

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get on the air. Details are at 100WattsInAWire

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.com and on HamTalk Live episode number 32. And

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we've posted a list of all of the frequencies

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that are being used for the hurricane nets on

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our Facebook page and Twitter feed this afternoon.

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Make sure you stay away from those frequencies

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during the fallout or any other operating. Of

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course, the main ones are 14 .325 and 7 .268.

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But the complete list is up there. The AWRL compiled

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that and we retweeted that and sent that out

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on Facebook. So be sure to check that out and

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try to stay away from those locations. Also,

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before we go to break, I want to remind you that

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JOTA is coming up, the Jamboree on the Air. That's

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coming up here. next weekend, so don't forget

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about that. And also, don't forget you have a

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chance to work the set of Last Man Standing on

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Tuesday. Special guests Amy and Ed Woodrick.

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That's K -E -4 -I -K -F and W -A -4 -Y -I -H.

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They'll be visiting the Last Man Standing show.

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They'll be on D -Star Reflector 30 Charlie from

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the Mike Baxter office set. on the last man standing

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stage in Studio City, California. The show usually

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operates from the set. They shoot every Tuesday

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night, and so during the dinner break, they get

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on the air. Usually about 2245 UTC for an hour,

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so be sure you give them a call. Well, tonight

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during the show, we're going to be talking about

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yet another operating opportunity for everyone.

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It's called School Club Roundup. Get you all

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your questions ready to go after the interview.

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chemistry joke, but he probably wouldn't get

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a reaction. Now, more HamTalk Live. And we're

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called Hurricane Matthew, and they had to postpone

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that, so the HamFest has been postponed to October

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21st and 22nd. So instead, Scott and Jill will

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and then they will resume their normal schedule.

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They'll be in Greenville, Tennessee on October

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15th and then Chattanooga, Tennessee on October

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and DC cord to get ready for this weekend and

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some projects that we're working on at school.

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So give them a call, tell them you heard it on

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HamTalk Live. HamTalk Live is on the air every

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Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time right

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here on HamTalkLive .com and if you missed the

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show be sure to check out the archive on the

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website. download it from one of those podcasting

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things. Lou Malchik, N2RQ, is the amateur radio

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club advisor and former chemistry teacher at

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Brooklyn Technical High School. Lou was first

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licensed in 1959 as WV2FBX while in eighth grade.

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He's a past president of the Erasmus Hall High

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School Amateur Radio Club and the Brooklyn College

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Amateur Radio Society. He was the faculty advisor

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at Brooklyn Tech W2CXN from 1977 through 2003.

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He has administered the school club roundup since

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its inception more than 30 years ago. Lou is

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a VE, has taught classes and mentored students

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mostly at Brooklyn Tech. He's a life member of

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ARRL and QCWA. He's active in Aries, He's a Hudson

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Division Assistant Director and also served more

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than 30 years in Army Mars. He's the co -chairman

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of the Education Committee and a director of

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the Long Island Mobile Amateur Radio Club or

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LIMARC, which sponsors the event in cooperation

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with the ARRL. In 2005, He was awarded the Grand

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Ole Ham Award from the ARRL Hudson Division,

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and Lou has also received an award from the American

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Chemical Society chapter in his area for his

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many years of work at Brooklyn Tech with chemical

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education and safety. And since Lou and I both

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have teaching chemistry and sponsoring high school

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ham radio clubs in common, I cannot be responsible

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for any bad chemistry jokes that may occur throughout

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this broadcast. Because all the good ones are

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gone Right Lou, right? We were swapping chemistry

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jokes before the show. So here we go Lou. Welcome

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to ham talk live. Thanks for coming on Well,

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it's pleasure to be here. Well, tell us a little

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bit about school club roundup Tell us when it

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is and how that got started Okay. Well, I'll

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start with how it got started, really. The upcoming

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session this month will be the 41st session of

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the School Club Roundup. It did not start quite

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that long ago. It started in either 1985 or 86.

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And if you think about it, our late colleague,

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Marty Smith, K2NRR, came up with this idea and

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It really fit We constantly tell our children

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do not talk to strangers and Then we put them

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on the radio and say now talk to strangers there's

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a basic conflict there and Marty came up with

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the idea of having a straightforward exchange

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It was inspired by the old Novice Roundup, and

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we made it so that it runs from Monday morning

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through Friday evening for an entire week, so

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that it's running during a school week. And the

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next session begins Monday morning, the 17th

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of October, and runs through the 23rd. No, it's

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the 21st, right? 21st, yes, 21st. And one of

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the things that we found is that, well, we used

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to run it in February only. And by popular demand

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and a great deal of resistance that had to be

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overcome from me, we added a second one. It's

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rather time consuming to take care of the The

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logs and checking and stuff like that But we

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added the October session and now they are both

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popular And So we're looking forward to it Well

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having everyone come on yeah, we've we've participated

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in it for quite a while now and we've done both

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the October roundup and the February roundup

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and it's always one of the highlights of our

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year So it's always great to have a way to get

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the kids on the air where everything is It's

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kind of scripted. It's kind of a contest format.

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Although we'll talk a little bit about that whether

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Truly a contest or or not and I know what your

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answer is already, but we'll talk about it but

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It's a scripted predictable way to get kids on

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the air and get them over some of that mic fright

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and So it's worked out really well for us And

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I know that there's a lot of other schools out

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there that that feel the same way so We want

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to get more schools involved in this of course,

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but we realize that most of the people listening

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tonight Probably aren't associated with the school.

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So tell the folks out there listening how they

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can get involved with school club roundup and

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support what these kids are doing. Even if they're

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not a part of a school club or sponsoring one

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of those. Okay. The first of all, I just want

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to correct something in the intro. Although I

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retired in 2003 from Brooklyn tech. I have still

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been the advisor and or trustee there to this

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day And so we're getting ready now but the whole

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idea is there aren't that many school stations

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out there and For the kids to get on the air

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and make contacts during the week there have

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to be other stations that they can work and So

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that's where individual stations other non -school

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clubs, stations, anyone can make contacts. As

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a matter of fact, anyone can make contacts with

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anyone. It's just that the scoring is different.

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If you're familiar with contest -style scoring,

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you have points for each contact. Phone is one

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point, and CW and digital modes are two points

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each. And then there are multipliers. Multiplier

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for a school contact is five. The multiplier

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for a non -school club is two. And then there

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are multipliers for states and Canadian provinces

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and territories and for DX entities. And so it

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gets to be rather fun competing. And I know Neil

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finds that it's more of a competitive piece.

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And what I have to tone people down on is you

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don't have to be competitive. If you want to

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be, you don't have to be competitive with anyone

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but yourself. I have, I'm fond of saying, you

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know, there's only one station that has been

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in every one of the previous 40 sessions of the

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School Club Roundup, and that is W2CXN at Brooklyn

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Tech. And there's only one operator who has been

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in all of the sessions, and that's me. Not that

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I have been competitive most of the time, nor

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has Brooklyn Tech been competitive most of the

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time. We operate with a very modest station.

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We once had a very good station, but because

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of changes in the building and things like that,

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we are now running a hundred watt radio into

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a mobile whip and whatever resonance we can get

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out of that system, that's it. And it's sometimes

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quite challenging, but we get the kids on the

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air. and they have fun. And talking about mic

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fright, I actually had a kid operating, not in

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the roundup, but just operating, with an old

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grip, I'm trying to remember, the G -stand, that's

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what it is, the oldest static D104. And he made

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a contact, and got so excited that he could not

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release the push to talk. I literally had to

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pry his fingers loose. And so this is something

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that I have not seen happen in the Roundup. It

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really makes it very easy to do. We have different

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levels of categories for the different schools

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so they're not mismatched. We have elementary,

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middle school, high school, and college university.

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We also separate DX from domestic stations. But

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again, anyone may participate. We have had entries

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from six continents and really interesting experiences.

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And, you know, getting back to the contest thing

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and whether it's a contest and whether it's not.

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And I always kind of chuckled whenever you'd

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say, well, it's like field day. You know, it's

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not a contest. And I'm sitting here thinking,

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wait a minute, field day is a contest. And so

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it's really both. It's a chance that you can

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contest if you're competitive, which my high

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schoolers, they're all about it. I mean, they

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formed a rivalry against another school that

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I won't mention on the air, but they're always

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gunning for them and they want to beat them and

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they want to get in there and they want to, you

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know, rack up the score and that's what they

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want to do. They want to see how many they can

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get and how well they can do. But there's other

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schools that are out there just to get kids on

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the air and get them talking. And so it's really

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great that it's both. It's competitive if you

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want it to be, and it's not competitive if you

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don't want it to be. Absolutely. And I've seen

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plenty of field day operations that are not competitive.

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Oh, yeah. Awful lot of fun. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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That's always kind of a... The thing you know

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is it or isn't it and and I guess the answer

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to field day early is it's both I mean it can

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be and some people do that and some people you

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know tend to just you know, hey Let's have a

00:18:28.619 --> 00:18:31.519
good time and let's set up and operate and see

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what we get one of the things that I've been

00:18:35.500 --> 00:18:40.200
asked recently is From new people, you know,

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how do we what do we have to do to enter? Just

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this week I had an email from somebody from a

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home school. And the question was, are you going

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to have a category for home schools? I don't

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foresee a category for home schools, but we've

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accepted entries from home schools for decades.

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All we ask is put yourself in the category that

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corresponds to one of the school levels. And

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usually if you have multiple grade level equivalents,

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you pick the highest grade level of the operators.

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So if somebody's equivalent to eighth grade,

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so you know, they'd maybe be, or seventh grade

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or something like that, maybe it'd be at middle

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school level. Somebody a little higher, high

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school level, it all works. And what we've seen

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an upsurge in the last couple of years is colleges

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and universities coming in in greater numbers

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than they used to. And from what I understand,

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the ARRL is now involved in sponsoring a push

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to revitalize college radio clubs. Absolutely.

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I love having it. I use it, by the way, having

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the colleges on there. I use it to try and point

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out to the school administration that it's a

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worthwhile activity. Otherwise, why would all

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these big name schools that we want our students

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to aspire to be sponsoring them? I use that as

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a selling point. I also have at least one student

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who I refer to as my mentor. And he got an ARRL

00:20:48.940 --> 00:20:55.579
scholarship and he's doing very well. So there

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you go. Well, you know, we've had a lot of kids

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from here get scholarships too and they've done

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really well and the school club roundup has been

00:21:06.730 --> 00:21:10.130
an important part of that and so we can't thank

00:21:10.130 --> 00:21:14.829
you and your crew enough and of course Marty

00:21:14.829 --> 00:21:19.089
when he was around to start it and help out with

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it. We worked him several times in the roundup

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and Just can't thank you all enough for providing

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that opportunity And let me tell you as a high

00:21:30.970 --> 00:21:34.190
school teacher I'm I'm glad that I'm in the high

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school division because that middle school division

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is fierce I mean Who? It just it just blows my

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mind now in the world these middle schools. Oh

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the competition is Up at the top is just is totally

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fierce You're right. It's it's amazing. But you

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know, there's one thing that you bring to mind

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We have seen a problem Not just with radio clubs,

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but just in general but the radio clubs in particular

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almost always a school club is tied to an individual

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operator who is the advisor or sponsor of the

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club and Year after year, we hear of teachers

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or other staff people who were sponsoring the

00:22:27.539 --> 00:22:33.200
club, retiring, and not being able to find someone

00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:36.339
to pick it up afterward. And I'd like to put

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this out here. You don't have to be a staff person

00:22:40.140 --> 00:22:44.599
at a school to operate in the roundup from a

00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:48.660
school. I've been telling people this for a long

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time. If you are a parent or even a friend of

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somebody who works in the school and you can

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develop some kind of a relationship, it doesn't

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matter what kind of an operation you have. You

00:23:04.750 --> 00:23:08.930
can set up a temporary station in the school

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parking lot, operate from the mobile or something

00:23:12.170 --> 00:23:19.990
like that, anything to get on the air. You may

00:23:19.990 --> 00:23:27.390
have seen, oh boy, Jay, who's the trustee for

00:23:27.390 --> 00:23:31.750
K -3 FBI. There was an email from him today.

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It was posted that he's fully retired now. But

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I remember the first time he entered the school

00:23:38.630 --> 00:23:41.509
club roundup from Virginia, and it wasn't from

00:23:41.509 --> 00:23:45.690
K -3 FBI. It was from his own station. I can't

00:23:45.690 --> 00:23:50.210
remember the call sign now. But he was operating

00:23:50.210 --> 00:23:54.549
as a parent at his daughter's school. And he

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did that for a few years. Nobody says you have

00:24:00.490 --> 00:24:03.890
to be on from Monday through Friday. Some people

00:24:03.890 --> 00:24:07.829
just get on one day. And there is a limit, by

00:24:07.829 --> 00:24:12.109
the way, of 24 hours maximum operation and also

00:24:12.109 --> 00:24:18.940
a maximum of six hours per day. It's not a super

00:24:18.940 --> 00:24:23.440
marathon. Well, that's some great ideas on how

00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.099
schools can get on the air, and we do need to

00:24:26.099 --> 00:24:29.799
take a break. But real quick, some comments about

00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:32.740
how schools should go about getting involved

00:24:32.740 --> 00:24:36.519
if they want to participate in this coming up

00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:42.500
here in just a couple of weeks. Well, the ARRL

00:24:42.500 --> 00:24:45.579
website is featuring School Club Roundup on the

00:24:45.579 --> 00:24:48.900
home page. I think that's probably the best place

00:24:48.900 --> 00:24:54.279
to look. If you want to contact us at Limark,

00:24:54.859 --> 00:25:00.500
we have an email address that is scr at limark

00:25:00.500 --> 00:25:04.960
.org. Limark is Long Island Mobile Amateur Radio

00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:10.799
Club. It's just the initials. And that comes

00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:14.640
to me and to at least one other member of our

00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:20.900
committee. We also have a Yahoo group that is

00:25:20.900 --> 00:25:29.299
SCR -L SierraCharlieRomeo -Lima at yahoogroups

00:25:29.299 --> 00:25:36.299
.com and both of those are excellent ways of,

00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:41.160
especially the Yahoo group, for getting in touch

00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:44.650
with the other people. Yep, very good. We do

00:25:44.650 --> 00:25:49.470
that quite a bit and always some lively conversation

00:25:49.470 --> 00:25:53.650
on there around this time of year, so check those

00:25:53.650 --> 00:25:58.289
out. Again, that's SCR at Limark .org and SCR

00:25:58.289 --> 00:26:02.589
-L on Yahoo Groups. Well, we're going to take

00:26:02.589 --> 00:26:04.849
a break. We'll be back and we're going to take

00:26:04.849 --> 00:26:08.950
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00:28:28.900 --> 00:28:34.779
So Lou, welcome back and want to talk a little

00:28:34.779 --> 00:28:37.940
bit about Lymark and their support while we're

00:28:37.940 --> 00:28:40.900
waiting for some calls. Again that number 812

00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:45.119
-NET -HAM -1. Give us a call and we'll talk here

00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.839
while we're waiting on people to do that. Talk

00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.700
a little bit about Lymark and how Lymark has

00:28:51.700 --> 00:28:57.880
supported this event. Marty and I were doing

00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:03.059
this for a long time I was doing it with the

00:29:03.059 --> 00:29:05.920
kids at Brooklyn Tech helping to do the scoring

00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:10.519
and This is all almost all before computer logging

00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:18.759
People would send in stacks of paper and After

00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:25.019
I retired I realized that and especially after

00:29:25.019 --> 00:29:29.049
Marty passed We weren't going to go on forever

00:29:29.049 --> 00:29:35.490
and I wanted to try to get the event to continue

00:29:35.490 --> 00:29:39.730
and I brought it to the Limark Board of Directors

00:29:39.730 --> 00:29:43.089
and proposed that they pick it up as sponsoring

00:29:43.089 --> 00:29:46.630
and so we formed a committee. They adopted it

00:29:46.630 --> 00:29:51.589
and we formed a committee. Mainly I have a friend

00:29:51.589 --> 00:29:57.259
who's a computer person. Ken, WB2KWC, who helps

00:29:57.259 --> 00:30:02.259
a great deal with the anomalies in the logs and

00:30:02.259 --> 00:30:05.799
things like that. We're looking to expand the

00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:09.380
committee within the club, but Limark just celebrated

00:30:09.380 --> 00:30:15.759
its 50th year. Right now we're somewhere around

00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:20.480
400 members on Long Island. Wow, we're good.

00:30:22.009 --> 00:30:26.670
Very good. Well, we do have a couple of questions

00:30:26.670 --> 00:30:34.849
coming in here on Twitter first of all Kg0ufo

00:30:34.849 --> 00:30:39.990
wants to know how many schools are involved I've

00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:43.970
talked it says I've talked with some SCR schools

00:30:43.970 --> 00:30:46.769
Whenever I hear them on the air and got QSL cards

00:30:46.769 --> 00:30:49.950
from some so about how many schools are involved

00:30:49.950 --> 00:30:53.230
and I'm going to go ahead and answer this call

00:30:53.230 --> 00:30:58.130
to so on the phone stand by there and Go ahead

00:30:58.130 --> 00:31:00.269
and answer that one and then we'll we'll move

00:31:00.269 --> 00:31:03.289
on to the call It's actually a little bit hard

00:31:03.289 --> 00:31:14.470
to say Typically We will see 60 70 clubs but

00:31:14.470 --> 00:31:18.490
What I know is that there are definitely more

00:31:18.490 --> 00:31:22.450
of them out there Just like in any other operating

00:31:22.450 --> 00:31:25.690
event, there are people who will make contacts

00:31:25.690 --> 00:31:31.849
and will not send in a log. And I make a point

00:31:31.849 --> 00:31:35.049
of asking for every log. I don't care if you

00:31:35.049 --> 00:31:37.769
made a single contact, we'd like to hear from

00:31:37.769 --> 00:31:44.349
you. And we've had a few of those. And one thing

00:31:44.349 --> 00:31:47.009
I wanted to mention about logging, if I may,

00:31:47.569 --> 00:31:52.440
Neil, There's been a tremendous transition to

00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:58.420
computer logging. And we have two logging programs

00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:01.559
that have been created specially for School Club

00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:08.380
Roundup. One is by Scott N3FJP, and I believe

00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:12.700
it's Windows only. And then we have from Dave

00:32:12.700 --> 00:32:18.730
AD8B SCR log. And he's been supporting us for

00:32:18.730 --> 00:32:23.130
quite a few years. And SCR log is available for

00:32:23.130 --> 00:32:28.670
both Windows and Mac OS. But anything will work.

00:32:28.950 --> 00:32:32.750
Whatever logging program or paper is welcome.

00:32:34.450 --> 00:32:38.589
Generally, if it's paper, we like it to be not

00:32:38.589 --> 00:32:43.509
more than 100 contacts. But your choice. Yeah,

00:32:43.549 --> 00:32:47.890
SCR log is bailed us out many many times. So

00:32:47.890 --> 00:32:52.349
thanks Dave and Sterling coffee in zero SSC is

00:32:52.349 --> 00:32:55.329
on the line. Good evening Sterling. Thank you

00:32:55.329 --> 00:32:58.490
for waiting so patiently. No problem evening,

00:32:58.490 --> 00:33:02.009
Neil I just want to call in and say just give

00:33:02.009 --> 00:33:04.930
Lou a big. Thanks I'm the former president of

00:33:04.930 --> 00:33:07.269
a college club at the University of Missouri

00:33:07.269 --> 00:33:10.319
Arala or it's now called Missouri S &T As some

00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.740
might know, their call sign is Whiskey Zero Triple

00:33:12.740 --> 00:33:15.559
Echo. And School Club Roundup was always a big

00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.180
staple for us and a lot of college clubs and

00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:22.460
always helped us get huge numbers interested

00:33:22.460 --> 00:33:25.000
and involved and participating and doing all

00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:26.779
this on the air thing. At the same time, we did

00:33:26.779 --> 00:33:30.299
things like little mini field days and took the

00:33:30.299 --> 00:33:33.640
whole week out of the semester to really promote

00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.259
Ham Radio in college and colleges and schools

00:33:36.259 --> 00:33:39.180
around the area. So it was always a lot of fun.

00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.180
Lately I've been trying to work on since I graduated.

00:33:42.180 --> 00:33:44.079
I'm you know, no longer in college obviously,

00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.799
so I have a little more time to kind of devote

00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:51.400
to promoting ham radio in educate like colleges

00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.680
and schools and youth in general so lately I've

00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:58.039
been working on a big database of Colleges like

00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.519
a mailing list so to speak so that we can go

00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.019
out and distribute this You know big school club

00:34:03.019 --> 00:34:05.920
roundup go do this or no sweepstakes has a school

00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.400
club category the November sweepstakes as well,

00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.920
so I don't know, if you guys want any help, because

00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:16.159
we have a few ideas maybe to improve the contest,

00:34:16.420 --> 00:34:19.079
or not contest, improve School Club Roundup,

00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:21.960
and help promote it too, because I always see

00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.360
after the fact, sometimes there's somebody like,

00:34:24.500 --> 00:34:26.280
oh, School Club Roundup was last week? Dang,

00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.880
missed it. So anything you guys need to help,

00:34:29.940 --> 00:34:36.380
I'm willing. Well, thank you. Thank you for your

00:34:36.380 --> 00:34:39.039
comments, and appreciate it. It's always nice

00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:47.559
to have positive feedback. Yeah, it really has

00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.260
surprised me how much publicity and promotion

00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:54.360
it has received, especially in recent years.

00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:04.079
ARRL has really featured it. Ward, I'm blanking

00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:06.889
out on his call sign. Thank you. Ward Silver

00:35:06.889 --> 00:35:14.550
has put together a plan or a goal of having a

00:35:14.550 --> 00:35:19.710
school -related activity each month. And School

00:35:19.710 --> 00:35:24.369
Club Roundup is two of those. And of course,

00:35:24.530 --> 00:35:28.590
the school category in the November sweepstakes,

00:35:28.789 --> 00:35:31.349
which has always been before school club round

00:35:31.349 --> 00:35:34.250
up, that was always my favorite activity. Yeah,

00:35:34.309 --> 00:35:36.590
same. It was a big capstone for us for the year.

00:35:37.329 --> 00:35:40.789
He actually helped us get, one year we participated

00:35:40.789 --> 00:35:44.550
in CW sweepstakes and Ward Silver, Enzo AX was

00:35:44.550 --> 00:35:49.710
his call. He won us first place. So it was a

00:35:49.710 --> 00:35:53.949
big help to the triple E, the dit dit dit. But

00:35:53.949 --> 00:35:55.710
man, he was a huge help. So that's really good

00:35:55.710 --> 00:36:00.440
to hear that he's on it. Thanks so much Sterling

00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.699
for giving us a call appreciate it my pleasure.

00:36:02.699 --> 00:36:06.500
Thank you All right, take care eight one two

00:36:06.500 --> 00:36:09.980
net ham one is the phone number or you can Skype

00:36:09.980 --> 00:36:16.320
at hand talk live Let's go to our other Tweet

00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:21.480
here Dr. Scott right key zero MD says great show

00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.519
and Wants to know what the best way to have students

00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:30.219
work in pairs is during SCR, and what's the best

00:36:30.219 --> 00:36:34.360
thing that adults can do working in schools in

00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.639
SCR to encourage the students to be more active?

00:36:38.619 --> 00:36:40.599
I'll take the easy one first. They're working

00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:45.960
in pairs. One operates, one logs. That's sort

00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:51.019
of an obvious one to me. Very often I'll have

00:36:51.019 --> 00:36:57.199
more kids in the shack than two. And the additional

00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:01.760
thing I do is I hand out paper logs and I ask

00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:06.519
everyone to practice logging because the listening

00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:12.679
skills are most important whether on phone or

00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:16.960
CW. Of course the digital modes, most of us are

00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:24.380
not listening, but all three work out. What I

00:37:24.380 --> 00:37:29.840
have found in terms of getting kids excited or

00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:35.639
within school and stuff like that is to be an

00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:39.559
example. When I was actively teaching it was

00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.840
easier for me to get the kids going because I

00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:47.780
would talk about it when I could in class and

00:37:47.780 --> 00:37:51.119
many of my students would come. disproportionately

00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:56.340
to the overall school. So if you're not directly

00:37:56.340 --> 00:37:59.440
in school and you have a friend who's teaching

00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.000
or something like that, we've had building custodians

00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:06.360
who are advisors to clubs, that sort of thing,

00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:12.559
anything works. And one thing that we found years

00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:20.099
ago, I happen to like digital and We got feedback

00:38:20.099 --> 00:38:23.940
that said Digital is too much like texting they

00:38:23.940 --> 00:38:28.360
like phone Other places say hey the CW is great

00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.880
Others prefer the digital Everybody's got their

00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.340
own thing and that's one of the greatest things

00:38:34.340 --> 00:38:37.559
about ham radio anyway And that's one of the

00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:43.130
things that I've noticed is that some years My

00:38:43.130 --> 00:38:45.929
group is all about doing digital they want to

00:38:45.929 --> 00:38:49.469
get on PSK 31 they want to run the macros they

00:38:49.469 --> 00:38:52.809
want to do everything on there and then I have

00:38:52.809 --> 00:38:56.070
other groups that They don't want to do that.

00:38:56.070 --> 00:38:58.010
They want to get on the microphone They want

00:38:58.010 --> 00:39:01.869
to get on there and talk and so we we vary a

00:39:01.869 --> 00:39:05.090
lot on that from year to year Just depending

00:39:05.090 --> 00:39:08.789
on the group of kids we have You know, I think

00:39:08.789 --> 00:39:16.590
it's a great chance to offer both and That's

00:39:16.590 --> 00:39:19.469
definitely a possibility with school club roundup

00:39:19.469 --> 00:39:23.530
Well, why don't we just got a couple of minutes

00:39:23.530 --> 00:39:26.869
left so Lou why don't you remind everybody again

00:39:26.869 --> 00:39:32.789
about the the times and the dates and get everybody

00:39:32.789 --> 00:39:37.329
making contacts that week with schools and then

00:39:37.329 --> 00:39:40.869
the addresses again in case There's a school

00:39:40.869 --> 00:39:43.170
out there that wants to sign up and get going,

00:39:43.429 --> 00:39:47.369
how they can do that. OK. I'll repeat, first

00:39:47.369 --> 00:39:54.170
of all, the scr -l at yahoogroups .com. That's

00:39:54.170 --> 00:39:57.210
the longest running and most active discussion

00:39:57.210 --> 00:40:01.730
group for this. And if you want a direct question

00:40:01.730 --> 00:40:08.860
here, it's scr at limark .org. The and of course

00:40:08.860 --> 00:40:13.639
the a double RL website has full listing of the

00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:19.599
rules and times and all of that this This October

00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:24.000
session is going to run from Monday the 17th

00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:28.320
of October through Friday the 21st and it starts

00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.380
Off the top of my head. I really don't have it

00:40:31.380 --> 00:40:34.860
in front of me I think in daylight saving time.

00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:43.159
It's 8 o 'clock Eastern and goes through 8 o

00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:55.420
'clock p .m. on Friday 2359 Friday UTC and It

00:40:55.420 --> 00:41:04.360
is about 1300 UTC on Monday morning And you do

00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:06.500
not have to sign up in advance. You don't have

00:41:06.500 --> 00:41:08.719
to do anything like that. Just get on the air

00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.360
and have some fun. Okay, and there are recommended

00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.019
frequencies. Those are posted up there too, so

00:41:15.019 --> 00:41:17.980
you can know where the schools are more likely

00:41:17.980 --> 00:41:20.179
to be. It doesn't guarantee they'll be within

00:41:20.179 --> 00:41:23.559
those regions, but they're more likely to be

00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:26.099
there. So get on the air and work some of these

00:41:26.099 --> 00:41:30.000
schools and give them some contacts during school

00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.610
club roundup. Great way to Show off amateur radio

00:41:34.610 --> 00:41:38.150
in a school and then maybe you take it further

00:41:38.150 --> 00:41:42.269
and, you know, do some more work with the kids

00:41:42.269 --> 00:41:46.829
and get them going into a club and maybe even

00:41:46.829 --> 00:41:50.010
do a little contesting. So, Lou, thanks so much

00:41:50.010 --> 00:41:52.190
for coming on the show. Appreciate it and look

00:41:52.190 --> 00:41:54.610
forward to talking to you on School Club Roundup

00:41:54.610 --> 00:41:57.329
here in a couple of weeks. My pleasure. Thank

00:41:57.329 --> 00:42:00.889
you. Alright, that is a wrap for this week's

00:42:00.889 --> 00:42:03.030
edition of HamTalk Live. I'd like to thank my

00:42:03.030 --> 00:42:06.110
guest Lou Malchik into our queue and everyone

00:42:06.110 --> 00:42:08.110
out there in cyberspace for listening and calling

00:42:08.110 --> 00:42:10.849
in and invite you back next Thursday night at

00:42:10.849 --> 00:42:15.590
9 p .m. Eastern Time when Marty Solaway, KC1CWF,

00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:18.369
Chicken with Fries will be here to talk about

00:42:18.369 --> 00:42:22.309
setting up a remote station. So for a list of

00:42:22.309 --> 00:42:24.449
all of our upcoming guests, be sure to visit

00:42:24.449 --> 00:42:28.309
HamTalkLive .com. So for now, this is Neil Rapp,

00:42:28.449 --> 00:42:33.949
WB9VPG, saying 7375, and may the good DX be yours!

00:42:34.699 --> 00:42:50.400
Thanks for watching
