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It's time for ham talk live episode 00:01:46.790 --> 00:01:50.829 number 38 It's the author of the book contact 00:01:50.829 --> 00:01:56.269 sport JK George in 3 BB recorded live on Thursday 00:01:56.269 --> 00:02:01.750 November 3rd 2016 I'm your host Neil rap WB 9 00:02:01.750 --> 00:02:05.269 VPG. Thanks for tuning in to this episode of 00:02:05.269 --> 00:02:08.550 ham talk live Tonight will be joined by noted 00:02:08.550 --> 00:02:12.969 author JK. Jim George in 3 BB to talk about his 00:02:12.969 --> 00:02:16.770 latest book entitled Contact Sport and we'll 00:02:16.770 --> 00:02:20.590 take your calls live in just a few minutes. Last 00:02:20.590 --> 00:02:24.009 week on the show Gerald Youngblood K5SDR was 00:02:24.009 --> 00:02:27.930 here to talk about his company Flex Radios. 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And if you missed the 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:53.040 show, the archive is always there on the website 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:56.279 or you can download it. from most of those popular 00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:01.339 podcasting websites. JK Jim George in 3BB has 00:05:01.339 --> 00:05:04.439 been an avid amateur radio enthusiast with a 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.959 special love for Morse code and radio sporting 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:11.819 since his teenage years over 50 years ago. He 00:05:11.819 --> 00:05:14.720 started his hobby listening to shortwave broadcasts 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:18.300 and long -distance AM radio stations. He is a 00:05:18.300 --> 00:05:20.879 graduate of Virginia Tech where he was president 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:24.500 of the VT Amateur Radio Club and was inducted 00:05:24.500 --> 00:05:27.279 into the Virginia Tech Academy of Engineering 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.500 after serving as chair of the advisory boards 00:05:30.500 --> 00:05:32.860 for both electrical and computer engineering 00:05:32.860 --> 00:05:36.459 as well as the College of Engineering. He is 00:05:36.459 --> 00:05:40.019 an avid Virginia Tech sports fan and has completed 00:05:40.019 --> 00:05:44.040 grad school at Arizona State University specializing 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:48.029 in semiconductor materials physics. Jim's professional 00:05:48.029 --> 00:05:51.569 career was primarily at Motorola, where he worked 00:05:51.569 --> 00:05:54.250 in the semiconductor business for nearly 40 years 00:05:54.250 --> 00:05:57.209 and served as corporate vice president for nearly 00:05:57.209 --> 00:06:00.589 15 years. Following his retirement, he was a 00:06:00.589 --> 00:06:04.209 founding member of the advisory board for KUTFM, 00:06:04.449 --> 00:06:07.290 the public radio station of the University of 00:06:07.290 --> 00:06:11.480 Texas at Austin. George enjoys reading and writing 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.420 and he and his wife live in the Hill County west 00:06:14.420 --> 00:06:18.579 of Austin and have three grown children and five 00:06:18.579 --> 00:06:22.680 grandchildren. His first book was entitled Reunion. 00:06:23.180 --> 00:06:25.579 a novel about a difficult relationship between 00:06:25.579 --> 00:06:29.079 a father and son as well as a lifelong friendships 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.480 with a unique high school peer group in his latest 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:36.939 book, Contact Sport, tells the story of the 2014 00:06:36.939 --> 00:06:41.220 World Radio Team Championships. And let me also 00:06:41.220 --> 00:06:43.279 add that Jim spent part of his youth growing 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:47.860 up down in Eastern Kentucky around uh, Paintsville, 00:06:47.860 --> 00:06:50.639 uh, Kentucky, which is the home of four number 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:53.660 university of Kentucky basketball star and current 00:06:53.660 --> 00:06:58.800 Alabama assistant coach John Pelfrey. And so 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.620 anybody that knows me knows I'm a UK fan. So 00:07:01.620 --> 00:07:04.060 I had to throw that in there. Jim, welcome to 00:07:04.060 --> 00:07:08.180 am talk live. Hello, Neil. And obviously you're 00:07:08.180 --> 00:07:11.139 a member of big blue nation. And, uh, I guess 00:07:11.139 --> 00:07:14.360 I have to confess here that obviously if you 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:19.269 grew up in, uh, Eastern Kentucky, Southwestern 00:07:19.269 --> 00:07:23.910 Virginia and Southern West Virginia. Note those 00:07:23.910 --> 00:07:26.870 geographic adjectives are really important. You 00:07:26.870 --> 00:07:30.610 are clearly a child of Appalachia. So I confess 00:07:30.610 --> 00:07:34.050 I am. Yep. Yep. Very good. So, so do you know 00:07:34.050 --> 00:07:38.290 John Pelfrey? Did you know who he was? Uh, yeah, 00:07:38.290 --> 00:07:40.509 no, I, I know the name, but actually to show 00:07:40.509 --> 00:07:44.110 you how old I am, the big sports hero for, uh, 00:07:44.209 --> 00:07:46.730 for UK at the time that I was a kid and pencil 00:07:46.730 --> 00:07:51.389 was babe perilla of the football team. Ah, okay. 00:07:51.629 --> 00:07:54.660 Well, very good. So you, you've got that whole, 00:07:54.660 --> 00:07:58.019 whole UK history going there. So, and everybody 00:07:58.019 --> 00:08:00.139 always wants to know how in the world did a UK 00:08:00.139 --> 00:08:03.800 fan end up in Bloomington, Indiana? There you 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:07.800 go. Uh, you know, lifelong Hoosier, but I grew 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:12.040 up watching the wrong TV channel, I guess. Got 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:15.740 started on UK basketball very, very early on. 00:08:15.819 --> 00:08:19.560 And, uh, and so, um, yeah, I'm kind of a fish 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:23.180 out of water in Bloomington, Indiana, but. anyway 00:08:23.180 --> 00:08:26.819 well let's let's get into you the book here contact 00:08:26.819 --> 00:08:30.120 sport tell us a little bit about that book and 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.759 the storyline and what inspired you to write 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.919 it well first of all thanks very much for having 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:41.460 me on ham talk live and also I don't know if 00:08:41.460 --> 00:08:44.100 people know about you but you're such an effective 00:08:44.100 --> 00:08:46.460 and inspirational high school teacher you know 00:08:46.460 --> 00:08:49.720 you teach AP you're an outstanding you're sort 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:53.299 of like Mr. Perfect in terms of high school teaching 00:08:53.299 --> 00:08:56.700 and I admire that so much and and I want to say 00:08:56.700 --> 00:09:00.519 hello to hopefully a number of my friends family 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.700 high school buddies from long ago plus people 00:09:03.700 --> 00:09:06.299 I know from ham radio and scattered over the 00:09:06.299 --> 00:09:09.639 US and probably other countries so Hello out 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:14.320 there in internet land Thank you But to it to 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:17.460 address your question that the book came up as 00:09:17.460 --> 00:09:21.250 somewhat of a surprise to me I have competed 00:09:21.250 --> 00:09:26.830 in the WRTC. I was a competitor in 2000 in Slovenia, 00:09:26.830 --> 00:09:31.529 and I was a referee two years later in 2002 in 00:09:31.529 --> 00:09:37.049 Helsinki, Finland. It's one of my favorite radio 00:09:37.049 --> 00:09:40.269 sporting events, other than the Morse code sprint. 00:09:41.230 --> 00:09:45.190 But the idea for this came in a phone call or 00:09:45.190 --> 00:09:49.899 an email from Doug Grant. Doug is... K1DG and 00:09:49.899 --> 00:09:52.879 I've known him for years through the we competed 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.919 in the semiconductor industry but Doug had read 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.200 my first book which was you know as you mentioned 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:02.220 Reunion a somewhat autobiographical novel but 00:10:02.220 --> 00:10:06.659 that book came out in December of 2011 and Doug 00:10:06.659 --> 00:10:09.840 had read it he liked it he felt I could write 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.399 and he was looking for somebody to write a book 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:17.200 about the WRTC which is the world Radio Sport 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:21.039 Team Championship that he was hosting and chairing 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:27.679 in 2014 up near Boston in New England and To 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:30.759 be perfectly candid. I was not Doug's first choice. 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:34.779 He had Lined up a very well -known professional 00:10:34.779 --> 00:10:39.779 writer and journalist named Mark of Mossack OB 00:10:39.779 --> 00:10:44.039 MAS CIK and Mark lives in Denver and he had written 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.720 a number of popular books. The best known, I 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.679 guess, is the book about really obsessive, competitive, 00:10:50.940 --> 00:10:53.379 wacko, wonderful birdwatching called The Big 00:10:53.379 --> 00:10:57.120 Year. Of course, that went on to be a movie with 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:00.620 Steve Black and Owen Wilson and Steve Martin. 00:11:01.779 --> 00:11:05.919 And he had agreed to write the book, but a mosaic 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:08.320 was pulled off the project somewhat at the last 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.820 minute. by his publisher in Colorado to write 00:11:11.820 --> 00:11:14.580 a book about the legalization of marijuana out 00:11:14.580 --> 00:11:20.139 there. And so he left Doug high and dry, so to 00:11:20.139 --> 00:11:25.460 speak. And just as a personal note, Marco Mosic 00:11:25.460 --> 00:11:29.039 did end up contacting me. He did ask that I send 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:32.259 him a copy of the manuscript of the book, and 00:11:32.259 --> 00:11:35.769 he read it and liked it. wrote a wonderful review 00:11:35.769 --> 00:11:40.070 that's on the front cover of Contact Sport. But 00:11:40.070 --> 00:11:43.309 I only had one month to decide whether I could 00:11:43.309 --> 00:11:46.809 do this to get back to Doug Grant. I told him 00:11:46.809 --> 00:11:49.330 I would, I feel I can do it, I love the contest, 00:11:49.490 --> 00:11:52.389 I have the background, but I'm gonna have to 00:11:52.389 --> 00:11:55.250 get a publisher to support this work. I want 00:11:55.250 --> 00:11:58.049 it in all the retail stores, I want it... available 00:11:58.049 --> 00:12:01.970 worldwide. And I pitched it and luckily, I got 00:12:01.970 --> 00:12:05.470 a contact through a local publisher here in Austin 00:12:05.470 --> 00:12:08.049 called Greenleaf Book Group. They're very good 00:12:08.049 --> 00:12:12.230 and they were wonderful. And so, you know, that 00:12:12.230 --> 00:12:17.269 all fell together and boom, I was, I was ready 00:12:17.269 --> 00:12:21.149 to commit to Doug about the project. Well, you 00:12:21.149 --> 00:12:23.649 know, that explains a little bit about some of 00:12:23.649 --> 00:12:29.100 Doug's comparisons of contesting to birdwatching. 00:12:30.299 --> 00:12:33.139 So that actually ties together a few things there. 00:12:33.860 --> 00:12:36.820 So yeah, he's he's familiar with certainly the 00:12:36.820 --> 00:12:39.960 big year and had, you know, contact to get more 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.440 of a mosaic. And so Doug is quite a quite a mover 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.700 and shaker. And I will say that the World Radiosport 00:12:46.700 --> 00:12:49.360 Team Championship would a not have happened and 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:52.899 B wouldn't have happened so extremely well under 00:12:52.899 --> 00:12:58.639 his stern but fair leadership. Very good. Well, 00:12:58.980 --> 00:13:06.379 let's go into that a little bit. The WRTC championships, 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:11.740 you traveled to Boston to start doing your interviews 00:13:11.740 --> 00:13:16.340 and writing and recording everything and trying 00:13:16.340 --> 00:13:19.700 to put all this together. Tell us about how you 00:13:19.700 --> 00:13:23.080 did that. How did you go about getting everything? 00:13:24.539 --> 00:13:28.940 observed and recorded and how you turn that into 00:13:28.940 --> 00:13:35.919 a story in line for a book that is for both experienced 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:43.740 contesters and non -hams. I'm glad you mentioned 00:13:43.740 --> 00:13:47.059 that, Neil, because there are a lot of hams in 00:13:47.059 --> 00:13:49.200 the world. There are two million amateur radio 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:52.139 operators worldwide and about a third of those, 00:13:52.139 --> 00:13:55.779 or about 700 ,000, are in this country. So, you 00:13:55.779 --> 00:13:57.860 know, it seemed like to me, hey, it's a potentially 00:13:57.860 --> 00:14:01.519 big audience inside the hobby. But I would not 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.379 have done it only for the ham radio audience, 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:08.779 the ham radio market. It's really important to 00:14:08.779 --> 00:14:11.539 me that I wrote this for the broad audience, 00:14:11.659 --> 00:14:13.700 people that have never even heard of ham radio. 00:14:14.419 --> 00:14:17.539 And so when when the thing when the project got 00:14:17.539 --> 00:14:19.879 a green light all across the board, I booked 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:24.250 a flight literally a week before the event. Doug 00:14:24.250 --> 00:14:26.509 had gotten me a room into the hotel which was 00:14:26.509 --> 00:14:29.570 clearly sold out and he somehow magically made 00:14:29.570 --> 00:14:33.610 a room available for me to book. I got an all 00:14:33.610 --> 00:14:36.769 -access pass from Doug and simply I went down 00:14:36.769 --> 00:14:39.590 to the local Staples office store and bought 00:14:39.590 --> 00:14:44.730 a great big 300 page black notebook and a handful 00:14:44.730 --> 00:14:49.840 of ballpoint pens and I just showed up. I wasn't 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:52.159 quite sure how to be a journalist. My training 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:55.879 is in engineering and science. So I simply started 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:59.059 walking around talking to people and, you know, 00:14:59.100 --> 00:15:02.340 tell me about yourself and what do you do? And 00:15:02.340 --> 00:15:05.080 I thought, oh, this is cool. I noticed they were 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:08.940 looking for people to be volunteer drivers for 00:15:08.940 --> 00:15:12.840 the teams because most of the teams, probably 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:14.820 three quarters of them were from outside the 00:15:14.820 --> 00:15:17.700 U .S. There were people from 40 different countries. 00:15:18.139 --> 00:15:22.740 And so I volunteered to be a team driver. I ended 00:15:22.740 --> 00:15:26.820 up with a team that I had never met, but I had 00:15:26.820 --> 00:15:30.480 contacted over the air, especially one, Stefan 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:35.120 von Balz, who's called us DL1IAO. I started talking 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.360 to Stefan on Morse code when he was a teenager, 00:15:38.019 --> 00:15:41.200 and now he's an ophthalmologist in Europe. Actually, 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:44.840 he's moving from Germany to Sweden to take up 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.460 a new life there. So, you know, how in the world 00:15:47.460 --> 00:15:51.139 do you cover an international event with 59 teams 00:15:51.139 --> 00:15:56.019 of two people and 59 single referees and What 00:15:56.019 --> 00:15:58.500 do you do? So, you know, I just I read up on 00:15:58.500 --> 00:16:01.419 it a bit and the first thing I realized is even 00:16:01.419 --> 00:16:03.840 though I did have content knowledge of this and 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:08.500 I loved it You can't focus on everyone. You can't 00:16:08.500 --> 00:16:12.529 include everyone equally. So I I knew for sure 00:16:12.529 --> 00:16:16.070 that I would cover between five and 10 teams, 00:16:16.669 --> 00:16:18.809 although all the teams are mentioned at the end, 00:16:18.970 --> 00:16:21.429 all the results for every one of these events 00:16:21.429 --> 00:16:25.509 going back to I think 1996 or earlier, they're 00:16:25.509 --> 00:16:29.809 all in the book in an appendix. So anyhow, I 00:16:29.809 --> 00:16:32.590 knew that I would focus, I knew the story would 00:16:32.590 --> 00:16:34.850 cover the winning teams, the top one or two or 00:16:34.850 --> 00:16:38.080 three. You knew that by definition. But then 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:39.860 I decided, well, there would be some over -the 00:16:39.860 --> 00:16:43.899 -top people, some well -known people. In addition, 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.580 since for the first time we had a women's team 00:16:46.580 --> 00:16:49.139 that happened to be two women from Germany that 00:16:49.139 --> 00:16:53.220 had fully qualified with no reservations, I wanted 00:16:53.220 --> 00:16:55.679 to cover them. A, I thought they would be interesting, 00:16:55.779 --> 00:16:59.460 and B, frankly, I wanted to reach out to the 00:16:59.460 --> 00:17:02.440 women readers who may not be hams. And there 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:04.460 were some really over -the -top personalities. 00:17:05.509 --> 00:17:08.829 George de Montrand a very well -known civic leader 00:17:08.829 --> 00:17:12.190 from Houston who owns a bunch of car dealerships 00:17:12.190 --> 00:17:15.869 and RV centers and Scott Redd who's a retired 00:17:15.869 --> 00:17:18.329 Admiral in the Navy who was the first director 00:17:18.329 --> 00:17:21.490 of the United States Counterterrorism Center, 00:17:21.650 --> 00:17:24.750 you know a huge name and a fellow named Tom Georgians 00:17:24.750 --> 00:17:28.529 who was a CEO of a big data networking company 00:17:28.529 --> 00:17:31.789 in California and A fellow from Europe called 00:17:31.789 --> 00:17:35.430 Tano Vak, who's an Estonian guy, very strong 00:17:35.430 --> 00:17:38.789 personality who, you know, has a big track record. 00:17:39.250 --> 00:17:41.410 And there were the defending champions from Russia 00:17:41.410 --> 00:17:44.470 who won the one in Moscow. So, you know, I ended 00:17:44.470 --> 00:17:47.750 up with a good mix of interesting people and 00:17:47.750 --> 00:17:50.329 also people from a meritocracy point of view 00:17:50.329 --> 00:17:53.990 that finished really, really well. And then I 00:17:53.990 --> 00:17:56.569 found, I guess, which is not too surprising, 00:17:56.650 --> 00:18:00.009 but I didn't think about it at the time, I since 00:18:00.009 --> 00:18:03.009 I was more or less embedded with a team as the 00:18:03.009 --> 00:18:06.230 driver and on their site, not all the time, but 00:18:06.230 --> 00:18:08.930 almost all the time, you know, I got really close 00:18:08.930 --> 00:18:12.130 to this team, I saw the setup, I saw them working, 00:18:12.390 --> 00:18:16.329 I, I had my meals out there, I drove them to 00:18:16.329 --> 00:18:20.869 and from and. And so anyhow, You know, you just 00:18:20.869 --> 00:18:23.089 sort of get into it that way and then things 00:18:23.089 --> 00:18:28.109 start to happen and It really it really worked 00:18:28.109 --> 00:18:34.029 out fabulously well Sounds like a great experience 00:18:34.029 --> 00:18:37.390 where you can take some time to get to know these 00:18:37.390 --> 00:18:42.470 people and and Really really dig into it. So 00:18:42.470 --> 00:18:47.240 that sounds great One of the comments that's 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:52.400 on the Amazon store had this quote, with the 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.819 turn of each page, I found myself becoming increasingly 00:18:56.819 --> 00:18:59.900 engrossed in not only the details of the story, 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:04.160 but also the intense suspense that made it extremely 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:08.519 hard to put the book down. So tell us how can 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:13.259 we get a hold of a copy of this book? We can't 00:19:13.259 --> 00:19:16.700 put it down either and and and also talk about 00:19:16.700 --> 00:19:21.880 your upcoming audible book release coming Well, 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:25.799 thank you great great great setup questions and 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:29.819 I I stumbled into a number of things that made 00:19:29.819 --> 00:19:33.200 the book absolutely I think fascinating First 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:36.019 of all roughly a third of the book has nothing 00:19:36.019 --> 00:19:39.119 to do with radio sporting with ham radio or with 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:45.190 anything to do with this technical event. The 00:19:45.190 --> 00:19:48.369 book has to do, since I was writing it for a 00:19:48.369 --> 00:19:49.990 broader audience, there were a lot of things 00:19:49.990 --> 00:19:53.089 in it that were not controversial or dramatic. 00:19:53.630 --> 00:19:57.630 It has a ham widow's ball for the people who 00:19:57.630 --> 00:20:00.410 were there who were not competing. It has backgrounded. 00:20:00.730 --> 00:20:03.769 But then I got lost. Here I am, a U .S. driver 00:20:03.769 --> 00:20:06.509 and I... I was completely lost and really put 00:20:06.509 --> 00:20:10.549 my team into danger. There's a big chapter which 00:20:10.549 --> 00:20:12.569 many people feel is the best chapter in the book 00:20:12.569 --> 00:20:15.670 called A Bad Trip. And it's not about drugs, 00:20:15.769 --> 00:20:18.690 it's about an incompetent guy from Texas getting 00:20:18.690 --> 00:20:22.309 lost in the woods of Massachusetts. It was a 00:20:22.309 --> 00:20:27.109 very, very isolated site. But I also lucked into 00:20:27.109 --> 00:20:31.119 the tightest and most controversial of these 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:34.400 World Radio Sport Team Championships of any to 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:38.279 date. The judges really focus on the top three 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.480 medals. All teams are ranked, but number one 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:43.779 wins the gold. It's like the Olympics. Number 00:20:43.779 --> 00:20:46.039 two wins the silver, and number three wins the 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:48.859 bronze. And those are the three teams that come 00:20:48.859 --> 00:20:52.019 up on the podium, get their medallions, get their 00:20:52.019 --> 00:20:54.220 pictures taken, and they're really the ones in 00:20:54.220 --> 00:20:56.759 the photographs. And that's where you want to 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.089 be, of course. Now, in this one, the number one 00:21:00.089 --> 00:21:02.829 and two teams, the first one were two Americans 00:21:02.829 --> 00:21:09.089 from California and Alaska via Idaho. The number 00:21:09.089 --> 00:21:12.529 two teams were two fellows from Slovakia, and 00:21:12.529 --> 00:21:15.329 they pretty well had a lock on number one and 00:21:15.329 --> 00:21:19.150 number two. Their scores were really far enough 00:21:19.150 --> 00:21:22.690 ahead that sort of just a meteor hitting the 00:21:22.779 --> 00:21:24.819 computers scoring everything, they were they 00:21:24.819 --> 00:21:27.859 were a lot. But number three, four, five, and 00:21:27.859 --> 00:21:30.880 six were so close together that, you know, you 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.400 take all the results and grind them into a gigantic 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:36.940 database and you eliminate the errors and bad 00:21:36.940 --> 00:21:40.500 context and this and that. And so the whole controversy 00:21:40.500 --> 00:21:43.940 was about who was going to get the bronze and 00:21:43.940 --> 00:21:48.160 as it turns out, The number three team, as the 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:51.440 scores were reported, were a USA team who had 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:55.079 a pretty reasonably comfortable lead. The number 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:57.940 four team was actually one fellow from the US 00:21:57.940 --> 00:22:01.539 and one guy from Canada up in Ontario. The number 00:22:01.539 --> 00:22:05.740 five team was the German team that I drove incompetently, 00:22:06.339 --> 00:22:09.019 quote unquote, my team, because you get to feel 00:22:09.019 --> 00:22:12.690 that way when you're embedded. And the number 00:22:12.690 --> 00:22:15.970 six team were a Lithuanian duo that had done 00:22:15.970 --> 00:22:19.170 this amazing recovery from having one of their 00:22:19.170 --> 00:22:21.990 computers totally break. At one point I think 00:22:21.990 --> 00:22:24.730 they were dead last or maybe next to last and 00:22:24.730 --> 00:22:28.069 they came back with a really amazing recovery 00:22:28.069 --> 00:22:30.930 and they ended up number six and they were in 00:22:30.930 --> 00:22:35.690 the mix. And the drama about the book is... What 00:22:35.690 --> 00:22:38.630 how did they sort out three four five and six 00:22:38.630 --> 00:22:41.630 and essentially without giving the entire story 00:22:41.630 --> 00:22:45.769 away. The whole thing came down to number three 00:22:45.769 --> 00:22:49.430 team and number five team the USA team and the 00:22:49.430 --> 00:22:52.529 German men's team which I had driven and I had 00:22:52.529 --> 00:22:55.930 been at their site and it came down to every 00:22:55.930 --> 00:22:58.410 time they ran the computer run of another batch 00:22:58.410 --> 00:23:02.420 of. of electronic log books came in from all 00:23:02.420 --> 00:23:04.339 over the world. I think they ended up with over 00:23:04.339 --> 00:23:07.500 3 ,000. And so every time they would run another 00:23:07.500 --> 00:23:10.779 50 or 100 after the first big slug of these, 00:23:11.380 --> 00:23:14.220 frankly the places would change. Number three 00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:16.180 would go to number four or number five would 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:17.940 come to number three and they bounced around. 00:23:18.420 --> 00:23:24.319 Finally it came down to number... The USA team 00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:27.079 and the German team, every time they ran it, 00:23:28.019 --> 00:23:30.460 they would flip, they would flop. They did not 00:23:30.460 --> 00:23:33.339 know who won this contest when the judges went 00:23:33.339 --> 00:23:37.799 to bed late Sunday night around midnight. And 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:39.500 remember, they were going to award the prizes 00:23:39.500 --> 00:23:43.920 at a big banquet on Monday night, roughly at 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:46.299 eight o 'clock local time. In fact, when they 00:23:46.299 --> 00:23:49.500 woke up Monday morning and Doug Grant and the 00:23:49.500 --> 00:23:53.119 other the other chief judges all met with these 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:58.579 two fellows, a guy named Tree Tyrell from the 00:23:58.579 --> 00:24:01.200 Portland area and a fellow named Trey Garlo from 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:05.099 the Bay area. He lives near Santa Cruz, California. 00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:09.759 They were the super data maven wizard guys who 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.059 know how to do this. And they finally on Sunday 00:24:12.059 --> 00:24:14.200 morning, Doug Grant said, who won it? They said, 00:24:14.220 --> 00:24:17.740 we don't know. And so Grant ordered two little 00:24:17.740 --> 00:24:21.400 stick -on bronze scripts to go on the one and 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:26.279 only big, handsome oak plaque. And roughly, I 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.900 guess, at about 11 or 12 or noon on Sunday, Grant 00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:33.799 said, well, we have to make a decision here because 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:35.980 we're not going to have a tie, although some 00:24:35.980 --> 00:24:39.480 of the judges were prepared to award a tie. And 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:43.140 it came down to rightly or wrongly. rightly or 00:24:43.140 --> 00:24:47.019 wrongly, it came down to one contact because 00:24:47.019 --> 00:24:50.160 the contact was with a different country, which 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:52.799 is called a multiplier, and the different country 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:58.460 would sway it more than simply a couple of new 00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:02.099 contacts, plus or minus. And I'm not going to 00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:04.160 spoil it, but the different country, which happened 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:08.359 to be a Greek island, a small, tiny Greek island 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.619 with was something like 600 people that lived 00:25:11.619 --> 00:25:15.019 on it within 10 miles of the Turkish mainland. 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.390 It was part of the Greek, the Dakanese island 00:25:18.390 --> 00:25:21.609 chain, Rhodes is the largest island. It came 00:25:21.609 --> 00:25:24.849 down to a single contact with an elderly British 00:25:24.849 --> 00:25:28.190 gentleman who was vacationing there with a really 00:25:28.190 --> 00:25:30.950 simple little teeny ham radio set. And he had 00:25:30.950 --> 00:25:34.170 only gotten on and had made four contacts, believe 00:25:34.170 --> 00:25:37.009 it or not. He really wasn't in the context. He 00:25:37.009 --> 00:25:39.789 got up and probably had a cup of tea and heard 00:25:39.789 --> 00:25:43.390 a couple of people. And so it came down to that. 00:25:43.990 --> 00:25:47.259 Was it going to be valid? or was it not, and 00:25:47.259 --> 00:25:51.079 I will simply say that it was an agonizing decision. 00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:54.720 It went one way and not the other, and that's 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:57.900 the way the book turned out. And so I was pleased 00:25:57.900 --> 00:26:04.170 to have the beneficiary of that. And very briefly, 00:26:04.289 --> 00:26:06.309 I know we're probably running a bit long on time, 00:26:06.690 --> 00:26:08.490 but to answer your question about the Audible 00:26:08.490 --> 00:26:11.650 book, contact sports available basically every 00:26:11.650 --> 00:26:14.269 way you can do it. There's a hardcover print 00:26:14.269 --> 00:26:19.609 copy on retail in Amazon, Barnes and Noble. There's 00:26:19.609 --> 00:26:23.190 a paperback version everywhere, and there's an 00:26:23.190 --> 00:26:27.329 ebook download on every ebook, Kindles, Nooks. 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:31.579 iTunes, Google, ebooks. They're all available 00:26:31.579 --> 00:26:34.680 in those three, hardcover, softcover, and ebook. 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.799 But I felt we needed to have an audible version. 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:41.920 And my son happens to run and own a small recording 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.220 studio here in town. And he does mainly singer 00:26:45.220 --> 00:26:48.700 -songwriter people, Austin people with a low 00:26:48.700 --> 00:26:52.259 budget. And so I decided to hire my son. I'm 00:26:52.259 --> 00:26:57.769 myself the reader. I can read it. I'm not a professional, 00:26:58.430 --> 00:27:01.529 but I understand the subject matter. I've got 00:27:01.529 --> 00:27:05.829 one more session with my son to finish my portion, 00:27:06.230 --> 00:27:08.470 and then it's going to take him four to six weeks 00:27:08.470 --> 00:27:12.609 to eliminate the breaths and the silences and 00:27:12.609 --> 00:27:15.589 the coughs and all the stuff to mix and master 00:27:15.589 --> 00:27:19.589 it. It then gets uploaded to an organization 00:27:19.589 --> 00:27:22.630 called, I'm going to do this from memory, Audible. 00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:28.400 creation exchange. I think it's ACX, audio creation 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.079 exchange. Anyhow, that's close if not exact. 00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:34.160 And then they basically host it. And then you 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.680 can download it from audible .com and from any 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.019 other ebook source. I'm sorry, audible book source. 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.460 And it should be out hopefully by about the end 00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:46.940 of the year. So, you know, maybe somebody can 00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:49.099 order it as a Christmas present or something. 00:27:49.470 --> 00:27:53.230 And at that point, I'm going to say this deed 00:27:53.230 --> 00:27:56.630 is done. I do promote it. I go to hamfests. I 00:27:56.630 --> 00:27:59.910 go to book clubs that read my books, either of 00:27:59.910 --> 00:28:02.309 them, and I appear in person if anybody is interested, 00:28:03.029 --> 00:28:06.170 if they're reasonably close. And then there's 00:28:06.170 --> 00:28:07.970 going to be a number three book started in the 00:28:07.970 --> 00:28:12.849 first of next year. Oh, very good. Sounds like 00:28:12.849 --> 00:28:15.430 you've got it available in all the different 00:28:15.430 --> 00:28:18.950 formats, so should be easy to get a hold of. 00:28:19.029 --> 00:28:21.809 And we do need to take a break here, but we'll 00:28:21.809 --> 00:28:25.589 be back and we're going to take your calls for 00:28:25.589 --> 00:28:29.410 Jim George right after this word from Tower Electronics 00:28:29.410 --> 00:28:33.289 right here on HamTalk Live. This episode of HamTalk 00:28:33.289 --> 00:28:36.349 Live is brought to you in part by Tower Electronics. 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.980 Tower Electronics has been the Ham's Dime Store 00:28:38.980 --> 00:28:42.380 since 1978. When you need connectors, mobile 00:28:42.380 --> 00:28:45.640 and handheld antennas, cables, or adapters, visit 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.240 Scott or Jill at a HamFest near you. Or you can 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:55.420 order online at PL -259 .com or call 920 -435 00:28:55.420 --> 00:29:00.440 -2973. 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Any of that kind of thing why give 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:20.500 us a call eight one two net ham one is the easy 00:31:20.500 --> 00:31:23.680 way to do that eight one two six three eight 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:29.950 four two six one Well I know one of your passions 00:31:29.950 --> 00:31:34.650 in addition to contesting is getting young people 00:31:34.650 --> 00:31:37.910 into amateur radio so how do you see this book 00:31:37.910 --> 00:31:41.130 helping that out while we're waiting on on people 00:31:41.130 --> 00:31:44.849 to call here? I do hope some people do have some 00:31:44.849 --> 00:31:47.970 questions or just can check in by the way by 00:31:47.970 --> 00:31:52.109 telephone but in the meanwhile you're right getting 00:31:52.109 --> 00:31:55.230 young people into the hobby and then getting 00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:58.970 young people into contesting is obviously critically 00:31:58.970 --> 00:32:03.269 important. I think contesting is what one would 00:32:03.269 --> 00:32:09.109 call a critical app to our hobby. It's one of 00:32:09.109 --> 00:32:12.069 the things that people really enjoy doing, certainly 00:32:12.069 --> 00:32:15.049 not the only thing, and not everybody likes it, 00:32:15.170 --> 00:32:19.930 but it's something that does push the state of 00:32:19.930 --> 00:32:23.029 the art in terms of equipment design. It does 00:32:23.029 --> 00:32:26.630 result in the breakthrough developments on new 00:32:26.630 --> 00:32:29.289 receivers. In fact, I guess Gerald Youngblood 00:32:29.289 --> 00:32:32.190 last week talked about software -defined radios 00:32:32.190 --> 00:32:35.569 with his company FlexRadio. And you know, Flex 00:32:35.569 --> 00:32:38.630 is responding to the demand of contesters. But 00:32:38.630 --> 00:32:41.970 basically, it's critical that we get young people 00:32:41.970 --> 00:32:45.970 in. And contesting is an interesting thing. It 00:32:45.970 --> 00:32:51.039 has a... It's got a startup, it's challenging, 00:32:51.259 --> 00:32:53.819 you know, you can't simply just do it with no 00:32:53.819 --> 00:32:58.420 experience. And also people that start, especially 00:32:58.420 --> 00:33:00.079 if you're young, you don't have a lot of money, 00:33:00.180 --> 00:33:03.279 you're maybe working a part -time job or mowing 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.660 yards or something to get your equipment. So 00:33:05.660 --> 00:33:08.099 realistically, you can dabble from your home 00:33:08.099 --> 00:33:10.799 station, you can make plenty of contacts, but 00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:12.700 you're never going to be winning the things. 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.759 So one thing I'd recommend people do is they 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:18.730 find First of all, it's critical you join the 00:33:18.730 --> 00:33:22.089 local ham radio club and in a place like Austin 00:33:22.089 --> 00:33:24.650 here There are you know three or four ham. They're 00:33:24.650 --> 00:33:26.789 more than there are big a number of ham radio 00:33:26.789 --> 00:33:29.430 clubs Some are very general, you know, some are 00:33:29.430 --> 00:33:32.849 pretty stayed Some are into operating like going 00:33:32.849 --> 00:33:35.930 to DX locations and faraway places and some are 00:33:35.930 --> 00:33:39.349 into contesting and some are into Emergency communications, 00:33:39.349 --> 00:33:42.009 but join an active ham radio club where you can 00:33:42.009 --> 00:33:46.220 get mentoring That's crucial. Get somebody that's 00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:49.500 experienced to help you learn this game. Then 00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:52.220 you're going to find that there are people that 00:33:52.220 --> 00:33:55.359 own stations and they just love to have people 00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:57.980 come out and operate their stations in a team. 00:33:58.579 --> 00:34:01.640 Those are called multi -operating, multi -operator 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.519 events. So number one, join a club. Number two, 00:34:05.740 --> 00:34:08.760 join a club that's got a - an element of interest 00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:11.880 in radio contesting, radio sporting. And then 00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.079 once you're there, you'll find somebody who owns 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.099 the station and is looking to train a young person, 00:34:17.420 --> 00:34:20.199 to mentor a young person, and let you have some 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.059 on -the -air time in a big station with good 00:34:23.059 --> 00:34:26.420 antennas and running competitive transmitter 00:34:26.420 --> 00:34:28.760 power. And you're just going to have so much 00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:32.099 fun. You'll just find, wow, this is like a video 00:34:32.099 --> 00:34:35.079 game, but it's even better and there's no video. 00:34:35.340 --> 00:34:38.710 All of a sudden, voices are coming in or Morse 00:34:38.710 --> 00:34:41.110 code is coming in from all over the world and 00:34:41.110 --> 00:34:44.690 dialects and accents and the voices are wobbly 00:34:44.690 --> 00:34:47.090 and verbally and they're coming over the North 00:34:47.090 --> 00:34:50.289 Pole and they're distorted by magnetics and foreign 00:34:50.289 --> 00:34:53.769 accents and it's just it's just plus you learn 00:34:53.769 --> 00:34:56.610 a lot about geography or learn a lot about other 00:34:56.610 --> 00:35:01.869 cultures. So bottom line is find a club, find 00:35:01.869 --> 00:35:04.309 an active club, get mentored in radio sporting. 00:35:04.699 --> 00:35:06.920 Go to somebody and, and, and join their team 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:10.679 as an operator and, uh, highly recommend it. 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.480 Yeah. I've found that ham radio is, is really 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:18.960 a truly interdisciplinary, uh, activity that, 00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:23.579 that reinforces everything math, chemistry, physics, 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.849 history, geography. foreign language, you name 00:35:28.849 --> 00:35:32.530 it, it covers it. And so it's a great tool to 00:35:32.530 --> 00:35:35.710 use for educating young people. And speaking 00:35:35.710 --> 00:35:39.369 of young people, we do have a tweet here from 00:35:39.369 --> 00:35:42.909 Sterling Coffee in Zero SSC who says that I stole 00:35:42.909 --> 00:35:47.469 his question already, but wants to know how many 00:35:47.469 --> 00:35:52.489 young people were participating in the WRTC that 00:35:52.489 --> 00:35:56.980 you wrote the book about. Wow, I'm so glad you 00:35:56.980 --> 00:35:59.300 I'm so glad you asked that question because I 00:35:59.300 --> 00:36:02.860 had neglected to mention that one of the teams 00:36:02.860 --> 00:36:07.780 one of the 59 teams sterling was was actually 00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:12.820 specifically designated to be a youth team and 00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:16.000 The youth team actually was very interesting. 00:36:16.059 --> 00:36:18.360 I'm actually looking in the book now to find 00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.969 the Coal letters from the youth team, but and 00:36:21.969 --> 00:36:23.969 and for some reason, let me see. Let me see. 00:36:24.050 --> 00:36:28.849 Let me see Well, I'm under pressure here I'm 00:36:28.849 --> 00:36:30.989 not finding it but I can tell you that the youth 00:36:30.989 --> 00:36:34.750 team had two people on it. It had Whiskey, Quebec 00:36:34.750 --> 00:36:39.789 to Mexico and it had a wonderful Italian guy. 00:36:39.909 --> 00:36:45.989 Here it is. It had I said one LBG Lima Bravo 00:36:45.989 --> 00:36:50.570 golf and their call was k1t k1 tango and they 00:36:50.570 --> 00:36:55.369 finished number 29 out of 59 teams and They were 00:36:55.369 --> 00:36:59.530 they were specifically Designated as the youth 00:36:59.530 --> 00:37:03.650 team and as such we wanted to and I think I think 00:37:03.650 --> 00:37:07.530 to be qualified one you could not be 25 years 00:37:07.530 --> 00:37:12.030 of age or older and They were a wonderful team. 00:37:12.650 --> 00:37:15.449 Paul is a graduate student at Seton Hall up in 00:37:15.449 --> 00:37:18.889 New York in international relations. He'll be 00:37:18.889 --> 00:37:25.309 wonderful. And IZ1LBG, for some reason, I've 00:37:25.309 --> 00:37:30.730 got a brain blank on his name, but he's a wonderful 00:37:30.730 --> 00:37:34.590 guy, very expressive, very outgoing, wonderful, 00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:38.610 a head of You know, tussled hair and full of 00:37:38.610 --> 00:37:41.710 moving his hands around and talking very expressive. 00:37:41.750 --> 00:37:43.849 And he was, he was over there with traveling 00:37:43.849 --> 00:37:45.849 with his mom and dad and they were going on to 00:37:45.849 --> 00:37:49.409 see the U S so, uh, they were the only team under 00:37:49.409 --> 00:37:52.070 25, although there were, there were several teams 00:37:52.070 --> 00:37:54.989 who were there in their thirties. Uh, but, you 00:37:54.989 --> 00:37:58.550 know, but, uh, a lot of people were probably 00:37:58.550 --> 00:38:02.389 over, over the mid forties or over. Okay. Very 00:38:02.389 --> 00:38:05.460 good. We do have a, uh, call on the line here. 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:10.039 So welcome to HamTalk Live. Who is this? Yeah, 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:18.400 thank you. This is Dave, K4COG. Jim, K8JTV. I 00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.960 knew him as K8JTV in Princeton, West Virginia. 00:38:23.099 --> 00:38:28.480 And Jim is the one that got me and my brother 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:35.789 involved in ham radio. K -A -Q -Q -S, so hello 00:38:35.789 --> 00:38:41.309 Jim, it's been a long time. Wow, yeah, it's David 00:38:41.309 --> 00:38:44.269 Jenkins, David Jenkins and his brother David, 00:38:45.230 --> 00:38:48.030 and their father was the minister of one of our 00:38:48.030 --> 00:38:50.389 churches in Princeton, West Virginia, and they 00:38:50.389 --> 00:38:54.909 happened to live literally maybe 120 yards from 00:38:54.909 --> 00:38:58.969 where my parents lived. a super guy, in fact, 00:38:58.969 --> 00:39:04.389 David went on to work for a ministry in the Philippines 00:39:04.389 --> 00:39:08.010 and in Africa as a, I'm gonna make up your title, 00:39:08.090 --> 00:39:10.610 you can correct me, David, but it's basically 00:39:10.610 --> 00:39:15.670 you were the communications guy, to put it. And 00:39:15.670 --> 00:39:17.369 I know you live, you and your wife, your family 00:39:17.369 --> 00:39:20.530 live in North Carolina now, I believe. We live 00:39:20.530 --> 00:39:24.650 in Cary, North Carolina. I wanna say one thing, 00:39:24.670 --> 00:39:28.539 okay, you were my, I remember my brother's Alan 00:39:28.539 --> 00:39:33.360 or he goes by Andy. Yeah so we used to come up 00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:36.960 to your house and you had an SX 43 and the DX 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:42.179 20 and we just love to see you operate CW and 00:39:42.179 --> 00:39:47.860 you really inspired us and so you know we're 00:39:47.860 --> 00:39:53.099 not too active right now but wow it's good to 00:39:53.099 --> 00:39:57.929 hear that you're riding. Anyway, I wanted to 00:39:57.929 --> 00:40:02.550 mention Emory Reesert. What kind of impact did 00:40:02.550 --> 00:40:07.679 he have in your life, Jim? Neil Wheat, are we 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:09.739 okay on time for this? Yeah. Yeah. We've got 00:40:09.739 --> 00:40:11.920 about, we've got about two or three minutes here, 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.300 but I was just going to say that, uh, we may 00:40:14.300 --> 00:40:16.980 have to rename the show instead of calling it 00:40:16.980 --> 00:40:20.239 ham talk live. We may have to call it. This is 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:24.980 your life. Yeah. Well, no, go ahead. You got 00:40:24.980 --> 00:40:28.940 about two minutes. Okay. Well, well, Dave is 00:40:28.940 --> 00:40:31.699 correct. And his brother, Alan, not, not, uh, 00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.670 I've missed the name, but or Andy. But yeah, 00:40:34.750 --> 00:40:39.269 I have a DX20 and an SX43 and a long wire sort 00:40:39.269 --> 00:40:42.389 of antenna, mainly on 40 meters. But yeah, and 00:40:42.389 --> 00:40:46.670 you were KQQS, as you said. And I will say also, 00:40:46.809 --> 00:40:48.750 I remember when you were in the Philippines, 00:40:50.230 --> 00:40:54.610 you were K4COG stroke DU7 or DU something. And 00:40:54.610 --> 00:40:57.150 we actually had a contact once, I think, on 40 00:40:57.150 --> 00:41:01.460 meters. and you were running QRP, so that was 00:41:01.460 --> 00:41:04.400 pretty cool, but you mentioned Emory Reesor, 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:08.800 it was W8 Golf Charlie Zulu, and he was my mentor, 00:41:08.980 --> 00:41:11.800 and to people that don't know this term, there's 00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:14.880 a term in ham radio, whoever has a mentor, the 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.179 word is, and don't ask me where it came from, 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:21.960 it's Elmer, E -L -M -E -R, but an Elmer is a 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:26.269 term of great, admiration and respect. And Mr. 00:41:26.489 --> 00:41:30.050 Reecer was my Elmer and a very, very prim and 00:41:30.050 --> 00:41:33.349 proper older man, a wonderful, wonderful guy. 00:41:33.730 --> 00:41:40.170 And I owe him a lot. Well, thanks for calling, 00:41:40.250 --> 00:41:42.090 Dave. It's really good to hear your voice and 00:41:42.090 --> 00:41:45.289 regards to your wife. Okay. Good luck on your 00:41:45.289 --> 00:41:48.710 books. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for calling, 00:41:48.829 --> 00:41:52.800 Dave. Appreciate it. Thank you, Neil. All right, 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.679 take care, 73. 73. All right, well, we're just 00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.579 about out of time. We've got a minute here. Sterling 00:42:00.579 --> 00:42:04.239 said thanks for the answer to the question. And 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.940 now he's disappointed because when WRTC 2018 00:42:07.940 --> 00:42:12.820 comes around, he's going to be 27. So he said 00:42:12.820 --> 00:42:16.260 he's disappointed about the youth team thing. 00:42:17.179 --> 00:42:20.460 So we've got. We've got just like 30 seconds. 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:25.840 Tell us about the 2018 coming up. Oh, yes. I'm 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.179 glad you mentioned that. The German, the German, 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:33.860 a group of German hams put in a bid for 2018. 00:42:34.059 --> 00:42:36.719 And this, by the way, this event now runs every 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.679 four years. So, you know, with with it up in 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.739 New England and in 14, it's going to be in Germany. 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:49.030 And I think it's northern Germany in 2018. There's 00:42:49.030 --> 00:42:52.250 a handful of people coordinating this, and I'm 00:42:52.250 --> 00:42:54.650 not going to mention their calls. One is Michael 00:42:54.650 --> 00:42:58.090 Hoding. I can't remember his code. He's a DL6, 00:42:58.269 --> 00:43:01.250 DL1QQ. Sandy Raker is part of the fundraising 00:43:01.250 --> 00:43:05.090 group. They're going to have a terrific event, 00:43:05.369 --> 00:43:09.530 well -organized. It should be just great, and 00:43:09.530 --> 00:43:13.599 I wish them all the best. All right. Well, thank 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.500 you so much, Jim, for coming on. We really appreciate 00:43:16.500 --> 00:43:20.260 you taking the time to talk to everybody about 00:43:20.260 --> 00:43:24.139 this and take the calls. And best of luck on 00:43:24.139 --> 00:43:26.159 getting that audible finished up. We'll be looking 00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.519 forward to it. Neil, thanks so much for the opportunity 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.420 to be on your show. You did a great job. And 00:43:32.420 --> 00:43:37.429 I'm a fan now. And thank you very much. Oh, you're 00:43:37.429 --> 00:43:40.809 very welcome. Well, that is a wrap for this week's 00:43:40.809 --> 00:43:43.389 edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks to my guest, 00:43:43.670 --> 00:43:46.829 Jim J .K. George in 3BB, and everyone out there 00:43:46.829 --> 00:43:49.710 in cyberspace for listening and calling in. And 00:43:49.710 --> 00:43:52.090 I'll invite you all back next Thursday night 00:43:52.090 --> 00:43:55.349 at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. And for a list of all 00:43:55.349 --> 00:43:58.909 of our upcoming guests, visit HamTalkLive .com. 00:43:59.269 --> 00:44:02.610 So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 00:44:02.610 --> 00:44:08.989 7 -3. 7 -5 and of course may the good DX be yours 00:44:54.420 --> 00:44:59.019 Seven three and good luck from ham talk live