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number 40. Last Man Standing producer John Amadeo,

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NN6JA, recorded live on Thursday, November 17th,

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2016. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks

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Eastern Time right here on hamtalklive .com and

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or you can download it from most of those podcasting

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websites. Originally from Long Island, John started

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an amateur radio as a tech plus in the early

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1970s quickly upgrading to general class. He

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moved to Los Angeles in the early 1980s where

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he ultimately upgraded to extra and changed his

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call to NN6JA. John has worked in the entertainment

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industry as an editor, director, and producer

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for the past 30 years. He's produced familiar

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shows like Titus, Arrested Development, Samantha

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Who, and Sports Night. And he's currently producing

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Last Man Standing, starring Tim Allen, which

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is now in its sixth season on ABC and is nationally

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syndicated. On the show, Tim Allen's character,

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Mike Baxter, is a ham radio operator. And all

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the radio equipment you see on the set is real

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and working. And over the show's six seasons,

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A number of the staff and crew have become licensed

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and often use the show radios to get on the air.

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So John, thank you so much for taking time out

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to come on HamTalk Live. Well, hi Neil. Thank

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you for having me on HamTalk Live. It's nice

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to be on a show that I actually listen to and

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enjoy. Well, thank you so much for for tuning

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in and for joining us so tell us a little bit

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about how Tim Allen's character Mike Baxter Came

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to be a ham radio operator in the show Well,

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thanks for asking, you know that came about really

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organically in that The first time I met with

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mr. Allen and we talked about his character Mike

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Baxter and then he wanted him to be a man's man,

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you know, a hunting, camping, fishing, backpacking

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kind of a guy. And of course, these days, when

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you do any kind of an activity, even outdoor

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activities, there's some amount of technology

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that comes along with it. Tim himself is a big

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believer in technology. He loves radios and he

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loves cell phones and computers and stuff. And

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he surprised me by saying, Mike Baxter is a bit

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of a survivalist, and he would have radio equipment.

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And of course I went like radio equipment. What

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do you mean by that Tim? And he said, you know

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ham radio and I said well as it turns out I've

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been a ham for a really long time and if you

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want Mike Baxter to be a ham radio operator I

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can totally hook you up and make a ham radio

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theme for the show So we did that and as you

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said we didn't just do it as a prop for the show

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we made it real so I think you know, we can talk

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more about that but That's sort of an aspect

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of this show that I believe is the first time

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anyone's ever done real ham radio on a TV show.

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Yeah. Now we were talking a little bit before

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the show about there's been a ham radio done

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in some different shows, but it's never quite

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real. That's true. And I think for me, and I've

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seen all those shows, everything from frequency,

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um, To how many shows the Munsters had ham radio

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the new CW show frequency It goes on and on and

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almost always ham radio is shown first of all

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inaccurately It's usually an old CB radio or

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a big box labeled ham radio with some blinking

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lights on or something like that Or it's viewed

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negatively that is to say you know hams are guys

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sitting in their basement Talking to each other

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on these old vintage radios So if we were going

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to do ham radio on our show I wanted it to be

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accurate and I wanted it to be as positive a

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portrayal as possible and I especially wanted

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the equipment to be really cool and modern and

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Especially digital and that's kind of what we've

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accomplished. I think so far So as a result of

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doing all this Tim Allen got his ham license.

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So how often does he get on the air? And any

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any secrets about where to find him on the air

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every once in a while? Well, you know, he does.

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He's we have, of course, on the show, we have

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a ton of ham gear. And if anyone that watches

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the show, you pretty much see it every week.

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And personally, Tim, I know that he asked me

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a lot of questions, so I know when he's more

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or less on. Of course, I'm not going to divulge

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the secrets of when and where he might be because

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my goodness, you can imagine he'd get the pileup

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of a lifetime and it would probably scare him

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away from ham radio. But because it was it was

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Tim that wanted ham radio on the show because

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I think he saw it as a good way to stay in touch

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with his family as he moves around the country.

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And of course, he's right. And the first piece

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of gear that we got for him was an icon D star

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radio because You know as you move around the

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country on hf you may or may not be able to make

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contact But for the most part with d star you

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can go anywhere and at least get back to your

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home base You know either through the radio and

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a repeater or through a dev app or dongle or

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whatever And I can tell that he does use the

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radio by by the conversations we have Although

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I have to say, you know tim works hard and long

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hours. So when he's with us on the show I can

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sort of tell what he's doing, but when he goes

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home, that's his personal life. So what he does

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on the weekends or at nights, I certainly don't

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monitor his activities. And that's of course

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when he would be playing with radios just like

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all of us do. And it's hard for me to report

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about that because I'm certainly not spying on

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Mr. Allen. One of the reasons we created, we

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could talk about later, we created the club,

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the Last Man Standing Amateur Radio Club, which

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and got the call sign KA6LMS was to allow our

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licensed operators that didn't have general class

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or above privileges and or TEM the ability to

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go on the air using the club call. So that helps

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a little bit with anonymity if you want to go

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on the air and not be mobbed under your original

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call sign. So that might be some secret information,

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I don't know. Well, you've been able to use the

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rig quite a bit you guys have been able to get

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on every week With some of the crew and some

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of the cast maybe tell us the best way to find

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you on the air from the set of last man standing

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and Tell us a little bit about the the setup.

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Of course, we see the the rig and everything

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But what's the antenna setup? Well, you know,

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I've gone through many many antennas Currently,

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I've got two inverted V's on the roof of the

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stage. So now the quick backstory We are a 20th

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Century Fox television show and we air on ABC

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and we produce the show at CBS in Studio City,

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California So we're in stage 9, which is the

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Seinfeld stage. So it's a really good karma stage

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We have a lot of luck there and it's about 60

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feet high. So on the roof of that stage I've

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got a 40 meter inverted V and a 20 meter inverted

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V and they are radio waves dipoles and I'm using

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LMR 400 all the way up there because I like to

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keep as much power going up there as possible

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and those those cables come down to our ICOM

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IC 7700 in the Mike Baxter office in the fictitious

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Outdoor Man store, and that's the basics of it

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I can't run any power because I am about a thousand

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feet away from the West Coast Broadcast Center

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for CBS And they would probably frown on our

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operation. If we took their nightly news off

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the air, that might cause a ruffle or two. Absolutely.

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Um, and they've been amazing. When you think

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about where I am physically and the ability to

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run a ham radio, it's, uh, it's pretty wonderful.

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And it's, it's mostly due to, uh, Tim Holly,

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who's one of the engineers at CBS, who's an extra

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class and an old friend of mine who kind of helped

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us, uh, get permission to do all this stuff.

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but it's really worked great. We go on the air

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usually on Tuesday nights during our dinner breaks.

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The crew plays ping pong and listens to music,

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and we go over to the Mike Baxter radio, flip

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on the radio, and we work 20 or 40 meters. And

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we've also worked D -Star. And we only have about

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an hour, an hour and a half, and we'll, on average,

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make about 100 contacts. And I don't know of

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any other TV show that ever had a real live ham

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radio station. transmitting from the set, minutes

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before the actors take positions. I mean, when

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we're in Mike Baxter's office and we're transmitting,

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within about let's say 30 minutes after we go

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QRT, the actors are standing right in front of

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those radios that you see on the air every week.

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So it's pretty exciting. Yeah, absolutely. And

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it sounds just like a grand time and a great

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place. to come visit and you've had several guests,

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uh, able to come out and visit the station and

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you've got some people that I know real well,

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uh, that, uh, that I've seen, uh, growing up,

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uh, tell us about, uh, your, your next, uh, guest

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family that's coming out to, uh, to. December

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on December 6 now we shoot our show on Tuesday

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nights and we shoot in front of a live audience

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of about 200 guests and on December 6th the Lee

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family is coming out now as if your listeners

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are not familiar the Lee family is an entire

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family of ham radio operators starting from mom

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and dad all the way down to I believe eight years

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old is it Hannah or or faith faith. That's a

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she's the youngest extra in the country and we're

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gonna carve out some time to put the family on

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the radio and Hoping we'll get our biggest pile

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up ever on that night. So the way to track with

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whatever we're doing on the air is to go to our

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K a zero X TT Facebook page and I will always

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post Information about our operations on that

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Facebook page We generally don't know whether

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we'll be on 40 or 20 Until we kind of get a sense

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of the propagation for that night Then we'll

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fish around for a clear frequency and once we

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find one I posted on the Facebook page And then

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oftentimes we'll spot ourselves on one of the

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spotting networks Always have a big pilot And

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it's just a lot of fun for us. In fact, we had

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operations last Tuesday of one of our club members,

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Rob, who's AA6RA, and he was one of the VE for

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the Tim Allen test. So he's a friend of the show

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and a great ham. And we had tough propagation

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last week, but he pulled out about 60 or 70 people.

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So my hat's off to Rob. Yeah, I saw the video

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from that. He was having a fight. It was worth

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it. We had some great ... The trick is it's easy

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to just go with the biggest signals, but he really

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worked at it and he pulled out some real noisy

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signals. That's really what you're supposed to

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do, I think. We really enjoy it. Oftentimes,

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we record it so other people can enjoy hearing

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themselves on the radio. Seeing themselves coming

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into the Mike Baxter radios on the set Now I

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know James is gonna love that trip too because

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he does a lot of Film work too. So mm -hmm. Oh,

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yeah, I mean, you know ham radio is not our primary

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thing as I'm sure you know We are a family comedy.

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We're a multi -camera sitcom. So we shoot for

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camera high -definition television It's basically

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like a play like a stage play shot in front of

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a live audience. So it's a real fun place to

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be and you know it's especially if you can snake

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your way down onto the stage and you know the

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hams have a little bit of an edge because oftentimes

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if you're coming to the show and you and you

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let me know ahead of time and my uh my email

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address is easy to find and i will oftentimes

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bring hams down on the stage and let them take

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a picture with the gear and all that stuff so

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you know we've had just so much fun with this

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whole concept of having ham radio on the show

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that i don't know hopefully keep going for a

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few more years. Yeah you've got six in and you

00:17:06.980 --> 00:17:09.480
know on a show that's that's pretty good and

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you're still going strong so hopefully that will

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for John about the Last Man Standing show or

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the setup. give us a call at 812 -NET -HAM -1

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00:20:04.700 --> 00:20:06.859
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00:20:06.859 --> 00:20:12.140
on a speaker But if you have any questions or

00:20:12.140 --> 00:20:15.339
comments for John, why go ahead and give us a

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call again. The phone number is 812 -NET -HAM

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-1. While we're waiting on the calls to come

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in, John, I want you to talk a little bit about

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how you feel the media deals with ham radio and

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what as hams we should be learning from that.

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Well, you know, I'm glad you asked that it's

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like it's important for us to keep ham radio

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alive and That means we need to attract young

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people or people in general to the hobby But

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you know for the most part the media has not

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been kind to us they do tend to see us as Old

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people sitting in basements talking on radios.

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And of course, there's so much more to ham radio

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than that I'd like to see a little bit less coverage

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of emergency operations only, and maybe a little

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bit more coverage of how much fun ham radio is,

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and how much one can learn from it. I know for

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me, I just delighted in everything I could learn

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about electronics and radio propagation from

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playing with ham radios, and a little bit less

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about emergencies, but you know, on field day,

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you get a lot of coverage on local news, and

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all they talk about is how hams are preparing

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for the ultimate disaster. And although we certainly

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are capable of handling disasters and certainly

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do participate in that, what I think they're

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missing is just how much fun it is and how much

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one can learn from it. I would agree that, you

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know, there needs to be some balance there of

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those kinds of things and hopefully we can work

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on that and make it a little more... balance.

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There's so many different aspects of ham radio.

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And it's like, you know, somebody asks you, well,

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just what is ham radio? And, and it's kind of

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hard because there, there's so many different

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modes and so many different things that you can

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do with it, that, um, it, it's hard to sum it

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all up. Yeah, it's almost an obstacle. I have

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to tell you, because we've now licensed something

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in the neighborhood of 30, 30 some odd people

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on the show. Um, And they'll they'll pass their

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test and then the VEs are so exuberant about

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ham radio and they start filling them with Oh

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and you can repeaters and satellites and you

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know all in they and like you see their eyes

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start to glaze over. Oh my god It's like it's

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too much information because ham radio is a massive

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hobby There are so many little subdivisions of

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things you can do that. You don't want to scare

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someone away and I've heard The term people use

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on the elevator speech, which is to say the very

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short concise explanation of what ham radio is

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and we all need to have that in our back pocket

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because honestly on the show the one thing I

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could hope for would be that someone might see

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all that equipment on my show and ask their neighbor

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who has a ham radio antenna Hey, what is that

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stuff and what is ham radio and how does that

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work? And then hopefully that person that one

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of my viewers could say in a very simple and

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concise way, here's what Ham Radio is and what

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it could do for you in a way that might entice

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somebody to check it out a little bit more. Very

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good. 812 -NET -HAM -1 is the phone number. Give

00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:46.640
us a call. 812 -638 -4261 or you can tweet us

00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:50.200
at HamTalk Live if you're mic shy or... You can

00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:53.380
also Skype us at HamTalk Live, so give us a call

00:23:53.380 --> 00:23:56.680
with any questions or comments about The Last

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Man Standing and John's role in that with both

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the Ham Station and producing the show. Now you've

00:24:05.859 --> 00:24:09.819
had several guests. We talked about the Leah

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family coming soon. What are some of the other

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guests that you've had and any others coming

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up soon that we should... take note of? Well,

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you know, over the years, I've had some wonderful

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people, you know, Gordon West came to our show

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very early on, and did an entire episode of ham

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nation live from the set, which was real fun

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for us. And, and Bob Hile came by and they both

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got to meet Tim Allen. And that was a fun night.

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And then of course, I've had Katie Allen and

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Katie Allen came down to the show with With Dwayne

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her husband and also at that same time Chip more

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jelly and Janet more jelly came down and all

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of them worked the station and got got their

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each their own Huge pileup, but of course none

00:25:01.829 --> 00:25:05.109
bigger than Katie's because Katie was you know

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She's a fairly known commodity as a ham radio

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celebrity and also coming from the stage was

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was a good way to go I've had Michael Corey Who's

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the I believe the emergency manager coordinator

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for the a double RL came and work CW. In fact,

00:25:19.339 --> 00:25:24.960
there's a a C a QSL card on my QSL wall of fame

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from Japan from a contact that Mike made We regularly

00:25:31.220 --> 00:25:35.299
have guest operators I will say that it's a it's

00:25:35.299 --> 00:25:37.240
a little hard for the crew. The crew loves the

00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:39.670
radio stuff and wants to play with it But when

00:25:39.670 --> 00:25:42.809
we're on the radio, we're minutes away from shooting

00:25:42.809 --> 00:25:46.089
the show so it it can sort of be distracting

00:25:46.089 --> 00:25:48.269
too So it is it is helpful for me to have guest

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operators and I've had a number of skilled guest

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operators Not the least of which is Rob a six.

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All right, who was there last week? And in fact,

00:25:56.069 --> 00:25:59.849
you can see a video of Rob on our K a zero XTT

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Facebook page kind of a fun night so, you know

00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:07.500
we We use it as best we can and we get as many

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people on the air and as many contacts as we

00:26:09.380 --> 00:26:13.140
can possibly make Unfortunately, we can only

00:26:13.140 --> 00:26:16.059
do it during our dinner break. So it's a it's

00:26:16.059 --> 00:26:19.400
only an hour to an hour and a half And we are

00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.160
as as our all hams. We're at the mercy of the

00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.740
propagation of each individual night So we do

00:26:25.740 --> 00:26:28.640
the best we can We've worked 20 meters. We were

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40 meters. We had a couple of weeks ago we had

00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:40.039
Ed and Amy who are part of the D star info? organization

00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:44.099
working D star and I wanted to do that so that

00:26:44.099 --> 00:26:46.839
you know, there are technicians that cannot cannot

00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:50.640
context on 20 or 40 and Ten's not such a good

00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.660
band for us at night on the stage as you can

00:26:53.660 --> 00:26:56.819
imagine So that gave the technicians a way in

00:26:56.819 --> 00:26:59.680
And I think our goal is to work as many modes

00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:01.839
and as many bands as we can. So everybody has

00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:05.480
a shot at us Well, that's great. I appreciate

00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:09.400
you doing that. I'm sure speak for a lot of others

00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:13.380
that appreciate you. taking the effort to to

00:27:13.380 --> 00:27:17.339
make all that happen and so if you have or if

00:27:17.339 --> 00:27:20.220
you have a question give us a call at 812 net

00:27:20.220 --> 00:27:25.220
ham one that's 812 -638 -4261 give us a call

00:27:25.220 --> 00:27:27.759
we've still got a little time left here in the

00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:32.160
show so give us a call and chime in here on last

00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:38.980
man standing 812 net ham one so how many of the

00:27:38.980 --> 00:27:44.670
crew And the the cast Have ended up becoming

00:27:44.670 --> 00:27:50.750
hams as a result of all this Well, you know,

00:27:50.750 --> 00:27:52.970
I don't actually have an exact number I I think

00:27:52.970 --> 00:27:57.430
we're in the middle 30s of a licensed ham members

00:27:57.430 --> 00:28:01.089
and of course what happens on a TV show is from

00:28:01.089 --> 00:28:05.410
season to season people come and go so People

00:28:05.410 --> 00:28:07.769
that I might have licensed in the first season

00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:10.440
Might have left in the third and then some new

00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:14.339
people took tests So, you know overall probably

00:28:14.339 --> 00:28:18.960
30 35 On the show currently probably in the 20s.

00:28:19.019 --> 00:28:21.720
I have a couple of people that are studying right

00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:23.680
now Probably three people that are studying right

00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.859
now that will level test in the next few weeks

00:28:26.859 --> 00:28:31.779
Generally when a crew member takes and passes

00:28:31.779 --> 00:28:36.599
a test we give them a free handheld radio and

00:28:36.990 --> 00:28:40.230
Some other incentives to to do it, but I think

00:28:40.230 --> 00:28:44.009
it started for me when I realized many of my

00:28:44.009 --> 00:28:48.549
young crew members You know the TV show is you

00:28:48.549 --> 00:28:51.309
know, they say about war It's like hours of nothing

00:28:51.309 --> 00:28:54.349
followed by moments of terror and a TV shows

00:28:54.349 --> 00:28:56.930
like that Well, we have we have a pretty much

00:28:56.930 --> 00:29:01.089
hard days or tend to be ten hour days And you

00:29:01.089 --> 00:29:03.450
sit around a lot and then suddenly you're like

00:29:03.450 --> 00:29:06.009
involved in the production, which is very intense

00:29:06.380 --> 00:29:08.660
So it occurred to me that rather than having

00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:11.380
my production assistants and writers assistants

00:29:11.380 --> 00:29:14.400
Sitting around Facebooking and texting each other

00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:17.339
they could they could learn something so I proposed

00:29:17.339 --> 00:29:21.579
in season one that if if the kids wanted to you

00:29:21.579 --> 00:29:23.640
know pick up the question pool and start reading

00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.440
and talking about the Questions that we would

00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.599
do it and provide them with a radio if they pass

00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:31.000
the test and and we had quite a lot of takers

00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:34.779
and It's funny Hear them going from downloading

00:29:34.779 --> 00:29:37.759
music illegally one day to talking about SWR

00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.680
the next I Thought that was just so much fun.

00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.740
I the first time I heard somebody talking about

00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:47.380
Wavelength wavelength versus frequency outside

00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:49.519
my office. I'm like, oh we may be on to something

00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:55.579
here Yeah, and then You know and it's not I would

00:29:55.579 --> 00:29:57.079
think that people think like well, we've made

00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:58.920
a whole lot of technicians but that's not true

00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.980
either because We've got a number of people that

00:30:01.980 --> 00:30:05.440
have since upgraded to both general and extra.

00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:10.519
And I'll tell you that our video engineer, Doug,

00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.680
he's an extra class. And one of my favorite success

00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:16.980
stories is our mixer, Laura. Now Laura came to

00:30:16.980 --> 00:30:20.640
us with no idea about ham radio. And most people

00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.839
on the show had no idea what ham radio was. And

00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.400
Laura got excited about it. She studied, passed

00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.740
the technician with us. past the general in the

00:30:28.740 --> 00:30:31.440
next year and past the extra third year. And

00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:37.180
she's now K6MIX, which is a perfect call sign

00:30:37.180 --> 00:30:40.680
if you're a sound mixer. Oh, yeah. That's beautiful.

00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.880
She's really enjoying it. She got on the air

00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:49.640
last season and first time ever on HF created

00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.359
a big pile up and worked it pretty flawlessly

00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:55.660
when you consider, you know, you know what a

00:30:55.660 --> 00:30:57.930
pile up is like and my goodness. When we get

00:30:57.930 --> 00:31:00.029
a pile up, it could be 1 ,000 people calling

00:31:00.029 --> 00:31:03.730
your name. So she did great, and it was a real

00:31:03.730 --> 00:31:07.589
fun thing to watch. But of course, when we turn

00:31:07.589 --> 00:31:09.970
the radio off, we've got to go shoot a show.

00:31:10.589 --> 00:31:12.809
So we have to be careful about how much stress

00:31:12.809 --> 00:31:17.269
we put the crew through before the show. Usually

00:31:17.269 --> 00:31:20.069
while we're operating, if anyone's ever watched

00:31:20.069 --> 00:31:22.829
any of the videos I've posted on the KA6 LMS

00:31:22.829 --> 00:31:26.710
Facebook page, can hear the noise level slowly

00:31:26.710 --> 00:31:29.950
growing and while we're operating at a certain

00:31:29.950 --> 00:31:32.690
point it becomes impossible to operate because

00:31:32.690 --> 00:31:36.450
the audience loads into the to the audience to

00:31:36.450 --> 00:31:39.130
the bleachers the warm -up we have a warm -up

00:31:39.130 --> 00:31:40.869
comedian who entertains them while we're waiting

00:31:40.869 --> 00:31:43.069
for the show to start and there's a DJ playing

00:31:43.069 --> 00:31:46.549
music so you're the operator trying to make trying

00:31:46.549 --> 00:31:49.609
to bust pileups and at the same time you're listening

00:31:49.609 --> 00:31:54.000
to loud music coming from the DJ Jokes coming

00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.700
from the warm -up guy and also the crews playing

00:31:56.700 --> 00:31:59.660
ping -pong in the background You know, it's just

00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:02.440
that you know moments before the show starts

00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.839
before we all sort of take our places so it's

00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.819
a it's a challenging place to work for radio,

00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.299
but it's it's it's sort of I think it adds to

00:32:11.299 --> 00:32:17.039
the fun and the immediacy of being on the radio

00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:20.720
moments before the show starts that reminds me

00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:26.819
of some of the CW, uh, training, uh, videos,

00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.759
uh, that Gordon West made, uh, because he would,

00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.099
you know, be going along and then all of a sudden

00:32:33.099 --> 00:32:37.539
the vacuum cleaner starts up and you got a copy

00:32:37.539 --> 00:32:40.799
code or the vacuum cleaner, you know? And, and

00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.579
so it is distracting. It's tough to, uh, to be

00:32:45.579 --> 00:32:49.569
able to focus on that while you've got, uh, all

00:32:49.569 --> 00:32:52.450
the music blaring and everything, so that is

00:32:52.450 --> 00:32:56.690
difficult. It's like real world training. I did

00:32:56.690 --> 00:32:59.990
a few weeks ago, I tried something I think is

00:32:59.990 --> 00:33:03.910
fun, and that is because people are very disappointed

00:33:03.910 --> 00:33:05.890
when you have to pull the plug, and there's a

00:33:05.890 --> 00:33:07.690
point where you just really need to get off the

00:33:07.690 --> 00:33:11.509
stage because we need to make that set ready

00:33:11.509 --> 00:33:14.589
to go for the actors. So I had a camera pointed

00:33:14.589 --> 00:33:18.400
at the audience in real time. I posted it as

00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:21.259
a little tile in the bottom of the image so you

00:33:21.259 --> 00:33:24.740
could see the operator working on the main part

00:33:24.740 --> 00:33:26.740
of the screen and in the bottom corner you can

00:33:26.740 --> 00:33:29.900
see the audience slowly loading in and you can

00:33:29.900 --> 00:33:32.519
hear the noise level increase and I thought it

00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:34.579
was really kind of cool because you can kind

00:33:34.579 --> 00:33:36.599
of see why oh they have to get off the air now

00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:39.359
because now there's 200 people talking and clapping

00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:41.480
and yelling and screaming and the music is playing

00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:46.579
so it at least gave our ham fans a sense of what's

00:33:46.579 --> 00:33:49.740
really happening while we're on the radio. Um,

00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:51.759
you know, now if you're on CW with headphones,

00:33:51.819 --> 00:33:53.619
it's not so bad, but if you're, if you're on

00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:56.059
SSB, it's kind of hard to keep talking once you're

00:33:56.059 --> 00:33:58.440
hearing, uh, loud music playing in the background

00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:01.859
with audiences cheering. Yeah, that, that would

00:34:01.859 --> 00:34:07.380
be a bit of a distraction. So it sounds like

00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:11.360
a lot of fun and a great thing that, uh, that

00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:15.639
this all come together. And so I'm so glad you

00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.639
stopped in here and gave us a chance to get a

00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:24.039
little insight on how the whole production works

00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:28.699
and how you're able to. get the the rig going

00:34:28.699 --> 00:34:32.719
and get it the station operated so give us a

00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.639
call we're going to run out of time here shortly

00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.860
but give us a call if you have any comments about

00:34:38.860 --> 00:34:42.239
the show or questions about the show or anything

00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.719
for John to give us a call at 812 net ham one

00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.219
that's eight one two six three eight four two

00:34:50.219 --> 00:34:53.599
six one we have just a few minutes remaining

00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.820
so I want to give everybody a chance to to call

00:34:56.820 --> 00:35:05.360
in and say hello or ask anything about the operation

00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:09.719
there. Now here's something I need to do, because

00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:12.000
I worked you guys a couple of weeks ago with

00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:15.000
some students of mine at school. What do you

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:21.960
do with QSLs? What's your QSL? Well, we are absolutely

00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:26.519
well we are we're ka6 LMS for last man standing

00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:30.039
and What we ask is that you simply send us We

00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.380
like to have your qsl card if you have one and

00:35:32.380 --> 00:35:34.760
if you don't it's not essential maybe just a

00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.219
note on a piece of paper and a self -addressed

00:35:37.219 --> 00:35:41.340
stamped envelope to the address on our QRZ so

00:35:41.340 --> 00:35:45.800
our QRZ page is good for ka6 LMS and We will

00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.389
respond with this special ka6 LMS To SL card

00:35:50.389 --> 00:35:52.650
that we had made and it's it's a it's a very

00:35:52.650 --> 00:35:56.570
cool card. I mean We have a number of QSL cards

00:35:56.570 --> 00:35:58.409
that we've created over the time again. We've

00:35:58.409 --> 00:36:01.150
been on for six years now So certainly the first

00:36:01.150 --> 00:36:05.690
one was Mike Baxter's card k a zero X TT Which

00:36:05.690 --> 00:36:08.329
is a fictitious call sign, although it sounds

00:36:08.329 --> 00:36:10.889
real pretty real and we've been giving those

00:36:10.889 --> 00:36:13.750
cards away for years We've given probably eight

00:36:13.750 --> 00:36:18.309
thousand k a zero X TT cards away Then the next

00:36:18.309 --> 00:36:21.789
one we had created was Mike's daughter Mandy

00:36:21.789 --> 00:36:25.170
the middle daughter Mandy who is seen on our

00:36:25.170 --> 00:36:34.389
episode 217 on the radio and she became Kf0 Xie

00:36:34.389 --> 00:36:36.409
which if you kind of write that on a piece of

00:36:36.409 --> 00:36:40.050
paper spells foxy because she is foxy and we

00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:42.929
had a special call special QSL card made for

00:36:42.929 --> 00:36:45.730
her and we've given many thousands of those away

00:36:46.090 --> 00:36:49.590
And then we decided at a certain point, let's

00:36:49.590 --> 00:36:52.369
have a club. So we created the Last Man Standing

00:36:52.369 --> 00:36:56.630
Amateur Radio Club and got KA6LMS, which I like

00:36:56.630 --> 00:36:59.170
that call sign quite a lot. And we don't really

00:36:59.170 --> 00:37:02.210
ID as Last Man Standing because there are some

00:37:02.210 --> 00:37:05.369
rules and regulations, as you imagine, with the

00:37:05.369 --> 00:37:07.969
FCC. We're not specifically promoting the show.

00:37:08.190 --> 00:37:10.630
We can't really talk too much about. You know

00:37:10.630 --> 00:37:12.550
if you if you call me on the radio I'm not going

00:37:12.550 --> 00:37:14.630
to tell you to tune in on Friday nights at 8

00:37:14.630 --> 00:37:18.369
o 'clock on ABC because that would be wrong Right,

00:37:18.369 --> 00:37:21.230
but we can do that on the internet. Well we can

00:37:21.230 --> 00:37:26.889
And I always say that Most important thing that

00:37:26.889 --> 00:37:29.710
any ham can do for ham radio really is to watch

00:37:29.710 --> 00:37:33.289
Lesman standing on Friday nights on ABC But we

00:37:33.289 --> 00:37:35.150
would never do that on the air, but so we're

00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:38.539
a little vague about that But I think that you

00:37:38.539 --> 00:37:40.179
know the hams know where we are and who they

00:37:40.179 --> 00:37:42.659
are I think they delight in seeing the radio

00:37:42.659 --> 00:37:46.539
equipment on the set and Just knowing that it's

00:37:46.539 --> 00:37:50.800
real and that it all works It's kind of an unusual

00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.820
thing. I don't know anybody that's done it But

00:37:52.820 --> 00:37:55.199
it was a lot of fun for me to do personally.

00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.960
I installed it all myself Climbed onto the roof

00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.039
of the stage put up the antennas bounce them

00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:05.559
with my Comet ca 500 antenna analyzer and made

00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.460
them mean, I don't know that I've tuned any antennas

00:38:08.460 --> 00:38:10.219
in my life any better than those they're they're

00:38:10.219 --> 00:38:14.880
completely flat SWR and with the IC 7700 we're

00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.760
putting at about 200 watts, so I think we're

00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:21.079
ahead of the game and We make a lot of contacts

00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.679
I'm happy for everyone that tries to contact

00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:26.739
us and we do the best we can to dig everyone

00:38:26.739 --> 00:38:29.440
out Even if you're not a strong signal call us

00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.239
and we will try our best to contact you Send

00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.269
us a sazy get our QSLs. It's You know, we do

00:38:36.269 --> 00:38:38.429
it for a reason. We do it because we enjoy it

00:38:38.429 --> 00:38:40.250
and because we have a love of hammer radio and

00:38:40.250 --> 00:38:42.989
we want to try to keep this great hobby going

00:38:42.989 --> 00:38:46.110
as long as possible before, before the cellular

00:38:46.110 --> 00:38:49.070
companies try to horn in on our spectrum. Take

00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:52.329
it, take all the spectrum away. Absolutely. Well,

00:38:52.489 --> 00:38:56.949
um, we do have a picture of the, um, KASIX LMS,

00:38:57.170 --> 00:39:01.239
um, QSL card on our Facebook page and a Twitter

00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.760
feed. So you can check that out. We do have a

00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:07.440
tweet here, um, for Mike would, uh, he was, uh,

00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.960
talking, uh, referring to the, uh, working the

00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.139
pileups, uh, with all the stage noises that my

00:39:13.139 --> 00:39:16.139
dad learned CW and the British army with instructors

00:39:16.139 --> 00:39:20.500
that were whacking canes on tables to distract

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:27.219
them. Yeah. It's it's reality. You got to deal

00:39:27.219 --> 00:39:30.320
with, uh, with all that noise around. And so,

00:39:31.179 --> 00:39:33.340
uh, so it's true. It's like that. You know, there's

00:39:33.340 --> 00:39:36.300
a point where I'm, I'm usually on, on the stage

00:39:36.300 --> 00:39:39.320
with whoever's operating and you know, we feel

00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:41.320
bad about having to pull a plug at some point,

00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:43.139
but you could just, we just look at each other

00:39:43.139 --> 00:39:45.940
and go, okay, well at this point that crowd is

00:39:45.940 --> 00:39:49.880
cheering and the, you know, the warmup guy is

00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.260
telling jokes and all this stuff is happening.

00:39:53.019 --> 00:39:55.079
I'm going to have to kill that. How do I do that?

00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:58.619
Just like this. Like this, as a matter of fact,

00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:00.820
speaking of take the battery out of a phone and

00:40:00.820 --> 00:40:03.760
it stops ringing. And it's exactly like whacking

00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:07.219
a cane on a table because as I say, you know,

00:40:07.219 --> 00:40:09.639
I have had comments from people. It's like, I

00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.360
love your show, but I hate your fake laugh track.

00:40:12.659 --> 00:40:15.099
And to them, I challenge them and say, come to

00:40:15.099 --> 00:40:17.719
our show and be become a part of our quote unquote

00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.159
fake laugh track. Because the laugh track is

00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.699
200 people that love the show and love Tim Allen.

00:40:23.210 --> 00:40:26.329
They laugh their heads off and applaud and that's

00:40:26.329 --> 00:40:28.250
great for the show But of course, it's bad for

00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:30.929
ham radio operation because it's pretty distracting

00:40:30.929 --> 00:40:36.610
Well, it sounds like a lot of fun just you know,

00:40:36.610 --> 00:40:38.429
you may have to fight through that a little bit

00:40:38.429 --> 00:40:41.610
but that's it, but it sounds like a lot of fun

00:40:41.610 --> 00:40:45.130
Yeah, always a challenge and you know, that's

00:40:45.130 --> 00:40:47.449
that's a lot of what a ham radio is all about

00:40:47.449 --> 00:40:50.179
is trying to figure out how to work the place

00:40:50.179 --> 00:40:52.639
you want to work with with the conditions that

00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:56.079
you're dealt on a given day and of course we

00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.340
know conditions these next few years are not

00:40:59.340 --> 00:41:03.559
going to be great so you got to accept the challenge

00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.539
and fight your way through it. I agree and I

00:41:06.539 --> 00:41:09.539
think what we're going to try to do is use all

00:41:09.539 --> 00:41:12.380
of the modes and all of the bands that we can

00:41:12.380 --> 00:41:15.579
to try to extend that so we have not at this

00:41:15.579 --> 00:41:19.329
point done anything like Any of the digital voice

00:41:19.329 --> 00:41:21.670
formats, but I'd like to try to do that and we

00:41:21.670 --> 00:41:24.949
probably at some point We'll do some ready. We'll

00:41:24.949 --> 00:41:28.510
do some You know some of the digital text formats

00:41:28.510 --> 00:41:31.190
and everything we can do and I just want to try

00:41:31.190 --> 00:41:34.289
to include everybody We've done a number of CW

00:41:34.289 --> 00:41:37.469
sessions already, but beyond that I want to do

00:41:37.469 --> 00:41:40.269
whatever I can to get more people to contact

00:41:40.269 --> 00:41:41.989
us who want I know the technicians have a tough

00:41:41.989 --> 00:41:45.820
time because Ten meters would not really be that

00:41:45.820 --> 00:41:50.340
fruitful for us at four o 'clock at night Especially

00:41:50.340 --> 00:41:54.500
this time as we approach solar minimums So that's

00:41:54.500 --> 00:41:57.340
why we did a D star night and I think we'll do

00:41:57.340 --> 00:42:01.099
other digital voice formats as time goes on and

00:42:01.099 --> 00:42:04.360
other Text like formats. So we're gonna try to

00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:06.380
cover all the bases and include as many people

00:42:06.380 --> 00:42:10.219
as we can That's wonderful, John. Thank you.

00:42:10.219 --> 00:42:13.840
And speaking of running out of time, we've run

00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.320
out of time. So thank you so much for coming

00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:22.280
on and we'll be listening for you. My pleasure.

00:42:23.219 --> 00:42:26.039
All right. Well, that is a wrap for this week's

00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.840
edition of HamTalk Live. I'd like to thank my

00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.159
guest, John Amadeo, NN6JA and everyone out there

00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.400
in cyberspace for listening and our tweeter tonight

00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:39.719
and invite you all back in two weeks. We are

00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:41.980
going to take next week off for Thanksgiving.

00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.579
So give thanks next week and then we'll be back

00:42:45.579 --> 00:42:49.780
the following Thursday. And our guest that following

00:42:49.780 --> 00:42:52.579
Thursday at 9 p .m. Eastern Time will be Harold

00:42:52.579 --> 00:42:56.440
Kramer, WJ1B. He's going to be here to talk about

00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:00.519
his key collection and his experiences as the

00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.119
former COO at the American Radio Relay League.

00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:06.579
For a list of all of our upcoming guests, visit

00:43:06.579 --> 00:43:10.239
HamTalk .com. So for now, this is Neil Rapp,

00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.139
WB9 VPG, saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may the good

00:43:15.139 --> 00:44:00.369
DX be yours. 7 -3 and good luck from ham talk

00:44:00.369 --> 00:44:00.989
live
