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at the Hamventions new home recorded live on

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Thursday, February 2nd, 2017. I'm your host,

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Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning into this

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episode of Ham talk live. Tonight on the show,

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Joe Eisenberg, KZeroNEB, the kit building editor

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at CQ Magazine. is here to talk about his recent

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trip to the Green County Fairgrounds in Xenia,

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Ohio, which is the new home of the Dayton Hamvention.

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And we'll probably talk some kit building as

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well. I know he's got a new kit he's excited

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to talk about. So we'll probably throw in some

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kit building as well. But we're going to start

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off with some Hamvention stuff tonight and we

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Eisenberg K zero in EB recently returned from

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Or to his beloved Nebraska from Xenia, Ohio Where

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Dayton hamvention is on the move? Joe is well

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known for his picture shows of hamvention and

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that gave him a chance to check out the new gigs

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over at Over at Xenia and hear about some of

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the planning that's taking place for this year's

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Hamvention. He is the longtime kit building editor

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at CQ Magazine and often makes presentations

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about kit building and offers kit builds at HamFest

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conventions and club meetings. Joe started Ham

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Radio at a very early age and has been licensed

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since 1969 and he's also very well known for

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his Dr. Seuss hat that he wears only at Dayton.

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And, uh, he lives in Lincoln, Nebraska and avid

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corn husker fan. We won't hold that too far against

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him since you don't play Kentucky. So we'll deal

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with that. And he works at the IT industry for

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his day job. So Joe, thanks for coming on ham

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talk live tonight. And especially on such short

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notice, we, uh, we were kind of holding the spot

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open here and, um, I appreciate you coming on

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on short notice tonight. Well, thank you very

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much Neil and I can tell you that the people

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in Dayton are very very busy You'll never see

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a more dedicated group of people. In fact having

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dinner with the general chairman before the club

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meeting Four weeks ago. I was astonished at how

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many texts and phone calls he gets and He's retired,

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so his real full -time job is being chairman

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of Hamvention. And he says it starts when he

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gets up and it goes till late in the evening

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that he's getting calls over all different aspects

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because he's basically trying to reinvent the

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biggest ham show in the world in a new place.

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In past years, it's only been minor changes here

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and there, and now it's a complete sea change

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of what it's gonna look like. Now one year when

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I was doing the my little ham fest down in Evansville,

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which was nowhere close to Dayton We had A little

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mix -up shall we say with the the fairgrounds

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people and They they rented our building out

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And so we had to change locations and it was

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still, you know, the same fairgrounds, but it

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was different building, different setup. and

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oh my goodness it was like starting all over

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again because you just got to replant everything

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and try to make things fit with less room and

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and you know locate this and locate that and

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change this traffic pattern and change and oh

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it was it was just like starting all over again

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so I can only imagine what they're having to

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go through changing things, trying to park everybody

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on site now and splitting up into separate buildings

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and just all of the things that are that are

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going on to make that change where normally you

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get into a routine and you know people kind of

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know their jobs and everything's you know running

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fine. You make some little tweaks here and there

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to improve and then now all of a sudden all that's

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gone and It's kind of exciting in a way. It's

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also kind of a downer in a way that, you know,

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after going for so many years to Hera, it's like,

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you know, the pattern, you know, where you want

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to go, which places you want to make sure to

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get to, you know, and you can prioritize things

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and you've got this plan. Well, I, and now it's

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all God. Yeah, I told them I said you know I

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can tell somebody on my UHF frequency or on DMR

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Hey, meet me in front of the icon booth well

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everybody knew where that was it was right across

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from the prize booth and Now you know we don't

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know where that's going to be we don't know where

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anything is I have been there, and I can tell

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you that the amount of Square footage inside

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is smaller than what was at hair arena The good

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news is is that the buildings where the forums

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are are much bigger the rooms are much bigger

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Than what we had at hair arena for forums, and

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we no longer have that room with the partitions

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That separated from the exhibit hall where I

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had to pretty much yells for everybody to hear

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over it All the forms are going to be in heated

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and air -conditioned buildings, and they're very

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quiet, and they're completely, absolutely separated

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from the commercial exhibits. So if you want

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to attend the seminars, get ready for a nice,

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comfortable time. Heated, air -conditioned, comfortable,

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and quiet. And most of the buildings that have

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the forms have their own restrooms in those buildings

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as well. You can't hear this. But you just got

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a standing ovation round of applause from no

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more dividers in the forum rooms. Yeah, well,

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I have to take it back. The two largest forum

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rooms will have a divider, but it's a lot more

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soundproof, OK? OK, we'll take it. But still,

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it's heated and air conditioned and more well

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lit. The carpet isn't beginning to grow roots

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and things like that. No black mold on the ceiling.

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No, no, it's going to look good. In fact, I made

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a special slideshow in black and white, did some

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artistic photography and I shot it a year ago

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this month when I was there to do a kit build.

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A year ago this month I went. Over to hair arena

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and I started taking pictures and I went in and

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found Karen Wampler who ran the place And I asked

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her if I could just wander around and take pictures

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and she she asked Why do you want to take pictures

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now? And I said well, you know, I I want I just

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want to document this place and then she kind

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of figured out what I was doing and she asked

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if I Wanted to have the main arena lit up which

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was set up for hockey And I said, sure. And so

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there's a lot of very artistic photos in this.

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They were shot in color and then converted manually

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to black and white. And I had to pay attention

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to the shading and the contrast and so forth

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to make it flow. And so there's a lot of artistic

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photography that's involved in that slideshow.

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And it's called Wish You Were Here. It has the

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theme song from Pink Floyd. But the forum rooms,

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you're going to love it. Three of them are pretty

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close by. And the fourth one is kind of closer

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to the horse track. But it's also indoors, heated,

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and air conditioned, and a very comfortable building

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with plenty of room. So I think we're going to

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have the quietest forum rooms we've ever had

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at Dayton. the exhibit halls Quite frankly are

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not heated or air -conditioned, but they're extremely

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heavily ventilated and Big big fans and stuff

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something that we did not have at hair arena

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because at hair arena They could not heat or

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air -condition those buildings and the reason

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was is that the doors are always open It could

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never keep up so What people don't realize is

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for most of the history of hamvention it was

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never heated or air -conditioned people don't

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realize that So we're kind of at the mercy of

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Ohio weather like we were before but these buildings

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are very well insulated and You'll like it because

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the buildings are square There isn't the hodgepodge

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that you saw at hair arena There's also a covered

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walkway between the three largest buildings.

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So if it's raining, you can walk between them

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and not have to get wet. However, as in all hamfests,

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I'd say watch the weather and bring an umbrella

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if you need. The flea market is going to be,

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most of it is going to be inside the horse track.

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There's an exception. There's a zone kind of

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near the grandstand area that looks like it if

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you look at it on a Google map It's it's kind

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of brown mud and that's really what it is. It's

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a mud bog that's used for tractor poles and so

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Obviously, there's not gonna be a tractor poles,

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but it's not a place you want to have a flea

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market table either But otherwise the flea market

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will be pretty similar to what we're used to,

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but it'll also have a row of tables that goes

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around the outside of the track, at least most

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of it, except for the bog area. There's also

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going to be more entrances to the track than

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you can see on the Google map, as they make it

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a lot easier for people to walk and drive in

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and out of it. But one of the neat innovations

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that they're going to do to make sure they have

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enough room for all the inside exhibitors that

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need it is they're going to have what they call

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chateau type tents. I call them wedding tents.

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They call them chateau tents. But they're very

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nice. And those will be on concrete. There's

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a paved parking lot that you can see that's to

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the south of the main buildings. And that's going

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to have these chateau tents that have more inside

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exhibitors. And the inside exhibitors are not

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only going to be in those three buildings, but

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there's a fourth building kind of on the lower

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right. If you look at the PDF that they now have

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on the Hamvention web page, it has the booth

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diagram. But it does not have the tent area yet,

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as they're going to see how many inside exhibitors

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they have. Figure out how much tent space they

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need now for the flea market vendors They will

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also have a new tent area now. I don't know if

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you remember back around 2000 or 2001 they had

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a tent in the far corner of the flea market yeah,

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and this where That's where the old Radio Shack

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as his place was yeah, and and that's gonna be

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where You'll have some inside Tent vendors now

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there were some vendors that came like those

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surplus electronics places that had their own

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tents And they will be probably accommodated

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in that area as well So there's a grassy area

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That's also in front of the main buildings between

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that and the street and that will be for the

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flea market tents and the Flea market vendors

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that bring their own tents So the flea market

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vendors that need normal stalls will be in the

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stalled area that's in the horse track and then

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there's an area on one edge of the track on the

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outside of the fence that will also have flea

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market stalls and then there will be this tented

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area. that's immediately adjacent. And there

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may also be some outside vendors that are in

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tents or stalls that are between these, because

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there will be all sorts of spaces. And the big

00:18:32.750 --> 00:18:35.549
question was food. Is there going to be the beer

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truck? Yes, there is. They've invited the guy

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with the cheesecake on a stick. Yeah, it wouldn't

00:18:41.569 --> 00:18:43.730
be ham -vention if you didn't have the cheesecake

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on a stick. That's right. That was the first

00:18:46.410 --> 00:18:49.430
question was, Is the cheesecake on a stick going

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to be there? Yeah, and is the beer trucks going

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to be there? And there'll be at least one beer

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truck. They also have talked about the fact that

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there's going to be a large catering. type vendor

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that will be under a large tent serving, as well

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as some local food trucks. And they said that

00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.859
there will be some healthier eating options,

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but there's also going to be possibly some fair

00:19:16.259 --> 00:19:21.680
food as well. And speaking about fair food, when

00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:24.740
you go to a state fair or a large county fair,

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how do you get from the parking lot to the fairgrounds,

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to the gate? It's usually a tractor pulled wagon,

00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:35.579
correct? Well, yeah, I've seen some do that well,

00:19:35.579 --> 00:19:37.980
that's what's gonna happen here so it'll be like

00:19:37.980 --> 00:19:40.359
going to our Nebraska State Fair where you park

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your car and you jump in the wagon that's being

00:19:42.819 --> 00:19:46.799
pulled by a big tractor and It'll take you up

00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.900
to the front gate where you get your tickets.

00:19:48.900 --> 00:19:51.440
So very nice So that's what they're going to

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do. They're also going to have many more golf

00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:56.400
carts than they had before. They're going to

00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:58.900
have pretty much an army of golf carts to help

00:19:58.900 --> 00:20:01.160
people out that are having trouble getting around

00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:05.859
or have boat anchors or things like that, power

00:20:05.859 --> 00:20:08.680
transformers and so forth that are probably a

00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:12.359
little more difficult to deal with. And so there

00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:15.109
will be golf carts. But the nice thing is is

00:20:15.109 --> 00:20:17.269
that you'll be able to ride those wagons out

00:20:17.269 --> 00:20:19.829
to the parking area and get a lot closer to your

00:20:19.829 --> 00:20:22.750
car because as fairgrounds, if you measure the

00:20:22.750 --> 00:20:24.990
distance from one end to the other is a little

00:20:24.990 --> 00:20:27.849
over one half mile from one end to the other.

00:20:28.809 --> 00:20:33.410
Now, for the bicycle mobile hams, they never

00:20:33.410 --> 00:20:35.809
had anything near her arena. They could do a

00:20:35.809 --> 00:20:39.730
decent demo. This place has a bike trail that

00:20:39.730 --> 00:20:44.099
actually bisects. Part of the fairgrounds and

00:20:44.099 --> 00:20:47.579
it continues across the street along a trail

00:20:47.579 --> 00:20:52.460
as well so the bicycle mobile people will actually

00:20:52.460 --> 00:20:58.140
have a Great on -site demo area as well That's

00:20:58.140 --> 00:21:01.859
that's all excellent. I'm glad to hear that those

00:21:01.859 --> 00:21:06.380
things are coming and and Have they have they

00:21:06.380 --> 00:21:12.930
given any? guarantees about No sewage well, you

00:21:12.930 --> 00:21:15.569
know they've they've kind of talked about that

00:21:15.569 --> 00:21:18.789
and It sounds like it's going to be through a

00:21:18.789 --> 00:21:21.309
combination of things number one the facilities

00:21:21.309 --> 00:21:25.289
here are much newer The fairgrounds was pretty

00:21:25.289 --> 00:21:30.269
much leveled in an EF for tornado in 2000 and

00:21:30.269 --> 00:21:33.230
rebuilt in 2001 so most all the buildings are

00:21:33.230 --> 00:21:35.690
brand new and when they did that they changed

00:21:35.690 --> 00:21:40.339
the drainage And that also goes with the drainage

00:21:40.339 --> 00:21:43.960
from the infield of the horse track where the

00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:51.539
flea market is and things like that. And so what

00:21:51.539 --> 00:21:55.359
they've done is they've taken some of the parking

00:21:55.359 --> 00:22:00.940
area and made it into a... soccer field area

00:22:00.940 --> 00:22:03.900
during the summer and so to keep those usable

00:22:03.900 --> 00:22:06.779
they obviously have subsurface drainage that

00:22:06.779 --> 00:22:11.160
they've put in and The sewage system within the

00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:15.720
place is also modernized and They're also talking

00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:20.079
about bringing in large truck type washrooms

00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:24.980
mobile washrooms and I've seen that before at

00:22:24.980 --> 00:22:29.640
other events and they're very nice. So so we're

00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:32.579
hoping everything goes well and we don't get

00:22:32.579 --> 00:22:36.180
too much rain and Everybody has a great time

00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:38.700
and I'm looking forward to it because it's my

00:22:38.700 --> 00:22:45.460
37th Very good. Very good. Well, we've been trying

00:22:45.460 --> 00:22:47.539
to get some dates scheduled here on the show

00:22:47.539 --> 00:22:50.480
for the dear folks to come on and take everybody's

00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:53.750
questions and We just haven't You know, they've

00:22:53.750 --> 00:22:58.150
been busy. We haven't received any response from

00:22:58.150 --> 00:23:00.329
them yet other than to assure they're going to

00:23:00.329 --> 00:23:04.349
come on the show. So hopefully we'll have them

00:23:04.349 --> 00:23:08.569
on soon and then we'll try to get them on again

00:23:08.569 --> 00:23:12.630
within a few weeks of Hamvention when things

00:23:12.630 --> 00:23:15.529
are closer to being finalized. I'm sure there's

00:23:15.529 --> 00:23:19.940
a lot of scrambling going on. Here on HamTalk

00:23:19.940 --> 00:23:23.359
Live, we've got five weeks of Hamvention coverage,

00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:25.539
so you'll have to listen to that. Obviously,

00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.519
they have more up -to -date information than

00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:31.140
I do. Basically, the hints I got when I was there

00:23:31.140 --> 00:23:34.599
was what the theme was going to be, which is

00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.099
interesting because I always have a theme as

00:23:37.099 --> 00:23:40.200
well. As you know, my slideshows, I take a song

00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:46.069
and it has a theme. Two songs I'm actually gonna

00:23:46.069 --> 00:23:49.809
do two of them this year one is the grand illusion

00:23:49.809 --> 00:23:54.990
by sticks and Twice or three times in the song

00:23:54.990 --> 00:23:59.750
it says deep inside were all the same and so

00:23:59.750 --> 00:24:04.609
when they said it's same friends New home. I

00:24:04.609 --> 00:24:07.009
thought well. This is perfect. It goes with the

00:24:07.009 --> 00:24:09.569
song the other song I'm gonna use is the show

00:24:09.569 --> 00:24:13.109
must go on it'll be a funnier look at people

00:24:13.109 --> 00:24:15.940
getting around in the new venue. And that's by

00:24:15.940 --> 00:24:18.460
Three Dog Night. So you'll dig around that song

00:24:18.460 --> 00:24:21.440
and you'll say, what is Joe gonna do with that?

00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:26.079
And it's gonna be fun. That camera's gonna be

00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:28.980
busy this year, very busy. They've asked me to

00:24:28.980 --> 00:24:31.680
be part of like the ribbon cutting. They want

00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.579
me to do two things. They want me to take a picture

00:24:34.579 --> 00:24:37.720
of the ribbon cutting and possibly don the hat

00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:42.420
at that point. So we'll see. Because this will

00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:46.420
be the 20th. uh Hamvention that it has been won.

00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:50.640
Oh well look look for the dawning of the Dr.

00:24:50.859 --> 00:24:54.180
Seuss hat at uh this year's Dayton Hamvention

00:24:54.180 --> 00:24:57.599
and um Like I said, here on the show, we've got

00:24:57.599 --> 00:25:01.960
five weeks of Hamvention preview shows leading

00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:04.740
up to that weekend of May 19th. So be sure to

00:25:04.740 --> 00:25:07.740
listen to HamTalk Live for what's coming up over

00:25:07.740 --> 00:25:10.940
at Hamvention in Xenia. And we're going to broadcast

00:25:10.940 --> 00:25:16.740
live again on Hamvention Eve, Thursday, May 18th.

00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:19.539
That's going to be again from the Spring Hill

00:25:19.539 --> 00:25:23.720
Suites in Miamisburg. Come join us in the live

00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:27.359
audience if you can and if you can't make sure

00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.640
you tune in at HamTalkLive .com and we're gonna

00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.359
take a break but we're gonna be back and have

00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:37.480
some more with Joe Eisenberg and talk some kits

00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:40.299
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gonna be running into them soon. Yes, I will

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I'll be seeing them at the Orlando hamcation

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and I like to put in a plug for them as well

00:27:44.420 --> 00:27:47.039
because they have some neat low -cost soldering

00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.880
equipment and plugs, jacks, and connectors, which

00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.400
is the thing that I preach the most to have on

00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:56.440
hand as a kit builder to make sure you're ready

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to use your kit when it's done. And I rely on

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Scott and Jill and Tower Electronics for all

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of my connector needs, so definitely visit TowerElectronics

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or PL259 .com. Yep, I do as well. They take really

00:28:13.609 --> 00:28:17.730
good care of me. So we appreciate you guys and

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thanks for throwing that in, Joe. Again, that's

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920 -435 -2973 or PL -259 .com. Okay, it's time

00:28:30.990 --> 00:28:35.329
to take some calls, but we didn't talk kits because

00:28:35.329 --> 00:28:37.549
we got all excited about Hamvention and we've

00:28:37.549 --> 00:28:40.190
even got more that we can talk about on Hamvention,

00:28:40.769 --> 00:28:44.670
but let's take a couple of minutes at least to

00:28:44.670 --> 00:28:50.519
talk about this. this new kit that you want to

00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.660
talk about. And if you want to call in, go ahead

00:28:54.660 --> 00:28:59.240
and give us a call. It's 812 -NET -HAM -1. 812

00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.900
-638 -4261. You may just have to wait a couple

00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:07.480
of minutes while we're talking about the Bayou

00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.690
Jumper. So what's a Bayou Jumper? Well a Bayou

00:29:11.690 --> 00:29:14.710
jumper is kind of an interesting kit it was partially

00:29:14.710 --> 00:29:18.589
designed by N5ib from Louisiana hence the name

00:29:18.589 --> 00:29:22.529
Bayou and the transmit part and the integration

00:29:22.529 --> 00:29:25.450
part of it and the circuit board layout was done

00:29:25.450 --> 00:29:30.329
by David Kripe NM0S and for those of you who

00:29:30.329 --> 00:29:33.029
don't know him he's designed a lot of the four

00:29:33.029 --> 00:29:38.470
state QRP groups kits and he is Design engineer

00:29:38.470 --> 00:29:43.410
for Rockwell Collins Collins radio in Cedar Rapids

00:29:43.410 --> 00:29:46.730
So he knows what he's doing and he put together

00:29:46.730 --> 00:29:50.869
some pretty incredible radios at very low cost

00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:54.539
This particular kit fits in a wooden box that

00:29:54.539 --> 00:29:57.779
you have to buy from Hobby Lobby and that's bought

00:29:57.779 --> 00:30:01.380
separately from the kit. You order the kit from

00:30:01.380 --> 00:30:04.299
the four -state group and it does come with four

00:30:04.299 --> 00:30:06.960
blocks of wood that you need to mount the board

00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.900
inside that box. So it does come with that part

00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:13.140
of it, but you actually need the wooden box itself

00:30:13.140 --> 00:30:15.680
from Hobby Lobby. And if you go to the four -state

00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:22.170
QRP page, which is 4sqrp .com, you can... See

00:30:22.170 --> 00:30:26.710
the number of the box that you need to put together

00:30:26.710 --> 00:30:29.829
this kit now What it is is it's a replica of

00:30:29.829 --> 00:30:32.910
a world war two paracet And what these were was

00:30:32.910 --> 00:30:36.430
the originals were a crystal controlled transmitter

00:30:36.430 --> 00:30:42.440
and a variable frequency regenerative receiver

00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.319
very simple they were three tube sets and of

00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.440
course they had to be plugged in or used with

00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.180
some heavy batteries and these were dropped by

00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:54.720
parachute behind enemy lines for people of the

00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:58.339
resistance and underground to pick up and use

00:30:58.339 --> 00:31:02.440
to communicate back to London and so forth so

00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:06.039
just before of course when our military went

00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:12.170
into Europe and so they were by nature very simple

00:31:12.170 --> 00:31:14.309
transmitters and receivers they put out about

00:31:14.309 --> 00:31:17.329
five watts and they had a simple regenerative

00:31:17.329 --> 00:31:21.349
receiver well this is the same thing except for

00:31:21.349 --> 00:31:24.950
solid state so you can run it off of 12 volts

00:31:24.950 --> 00:31:29.369
the CW key is built into it just like it was

00:31:29.369 --> 00:31:32.480
in the original and you plug in headphones just

00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.420
like the original and you got to calibrate the

00:31:35.420 --> 00:31:37.980
dial yourself with it and make a chart just like

00:31:37.980 --> 00:31:40.440
the original was because it is a regenerative

00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.279
receiver and the knobs and the placement and

00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:46.660
the way it works is pretty much identical to

00:31:46.660 --> 00:31:49.059
the way the original worked it's just with solid

00:31:49.059 --> 00:31:52.720
state components instead of tubes so the receiver

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.180
only draws about 20 milliamps on receive which

00:31:56.180 --> 00:31:59.200
is pretty phenomenal But it draws a lot more

00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.079
than that when you transmit because it's putting

00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:03.619
out five watts But there's no heat sink or anything

00:32:03.619 --> 00:32:07.720
because he uses class E And there's one toroid

00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.279
to wind and that's for the regenerative receiver

00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.900
But there's no toroids to wind for the transmit

00:32:13.900 --> 00:32:17.460
filters because they are spiral wound coils that

00:32:17.460 --> 00:32:20.559
are built into the circuit board Already done

00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:24.460
for you. It's it's pretty phenomenal and so The

00:32:24.460 --> 00:32:27.339
Bayou Jumper has become a great big seller and

00:32:27.339 --> 00:32:30.279
any money that's made from that helps to finance

00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.720
Ozarkon, which is the four -state QRP's annual

00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:37.660
gathering the first weekend in April in Branson,

00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:41.319
Missouri. A great place to go. All right, and

00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:44.940
we've got a picture of that on our social media

00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:48.940
on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. So if you

00:32:48.940 --> 00:32:50.920
want to see a picture of the Bayou Jumper, I

00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.970
know my friend Scott in 4JN was Commenting how

00:32:54.970 --> 00:32:58.650
beautiful that thing was earlier today. So yeah

00:32:58.650 --> 00:33:02.190
the one I picture The one I sent is the one I

00:33:02.190 --> 00:33:05.369
built and I'm I've yet to sand it and stain it

00:33:05.369 --> 00:33:07.470
yet So, of course, obviously in the photo, it's

00:33:07.470 --> 00:33:10.369
not gonna look as much different But when it's

00:33:10.369 --> 00:33:12.910
done, they would will be a lot smoother and it'll

00:33:12.910 --> 00:33:14.890
be stained and everything and people are putting

00:33:14.890 --> 00:33:17.470
like travel stickers on an old -style travel

00:33:17.470 --> 00:33:20.390
stickers like Paris Rome London or whatever and

00:33:20.390 --> 00:33:22.960
I'm I'm going to decorate mine a little differently.

00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:26.140
It'll have luggage tags and stickers from different

00:33:26.140 --> 00:33:32.920
airlines. Nice. Very nice. 812 Net Ham 1 is the

00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.779
telephone number. If you'd like to call in and

00:33:35.779 --> 00:33:39.500
ask a question or a question about Hamvention,

00:33:39.819 --> 00:33:42.779
give us a call. 812 Net Ham 1 or you can Skype

00:33:42.779 --> 00:33:46.619
us at HamTalk Live or you can tweet to us. over

00:33:46.619 --> 00:33:50.000
there on that Twitter thing at HamTalk Live.

00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:55.140
And by the way, KB8DNS has sent us a tweet from

00:33:55.140 --> 00:33:58.640
Michigan and says this will be his 12th trip

00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:03.380
in a row to Dayton and will be at the Buildathon.

00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:08.340
So he'll be there with you. And so Rod says seven

00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:11.659
three and he's looking forward to the trip to

00:34:11.659 --> 00:34:17.769
Dayton. The Buildathon at FDIM is hosted by Rex

00:34:17.769 --> 00:34:24.010
W1REX from Maine and the kit this year is a combination

00:34:24.010 --> 00:34:27.230
of previous kits he's made but he's kind of integrating

00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:29.590
them and kind of redesigning them to make it

00:34:29.590 --> 00:34:32.429
a lot more stable and what it is is a crystal

00:34:32.429 --> 00:34:37.730
oscillator and a more stable crystal oscillator

00:34:37.730 --> 00:34:40.710
that runs a frequency counter so that you can

00:34:40.710 --> 00:34:45.039
plug a crystal in and Test it and what what the

00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.659
object is is because so many people are building

00:34:47.659 --> 00:34:52.300
these Bayou jumpers that use the the regular

00:34:52.300 --> 00:34:56.179
old style crystals People are either taking the

00:34:56.179 --> 00:34:58.860
guts out of a crystal and then putting a modern

00:34:58.860 --> 00:35:01.940
crystal in the same case and closing it up Or

00:35:01.940 --> 00:35:05.489
they're actually grinding down the quartz element

00:35:05.489 --> 00:35:08.550
in the crystal like if it's just below the 40

00:35:08.550 --> 00:35:11.750
meter band is ideal and they sand it down a bit

00:35:11.750 --> 00:35:15.349
with the special method and they they get it

00:35:15.349 --> 00:35:18.670
to resonate on one of the popular qrp frequencies

00:35:18.670 --> 00:35:22.289
and so what Rex is going to do is everybody is

00:35:22.289 --> 00:35:24.349
going to get to grind down their own crystals

00:35:24.349 --> 00:35:28.530
to use with this kind of a kit and test it and

00:35:28.530 --> 00:35:31.699
see what exact Frequency it's on and then obviously

00:35:31.699 --> 00:35:34.699
take home that device so that you can sand down

00:35:34.699 --> 00:35:38.920
and adjust your own crystals Wow Which I think

00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.420
is I think it's spectacular now. He did this

00:35:41.420 --> 00:35:46.340
he did this with one test set So everybody had

00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:52.039
to test from the same machine in at Ozark on

00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.880
About eight or nine years ago or so and it was

00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.360
a lot of fun and so now he's modernizing that

00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.159
so everybody gets to build the test set and take

00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.000
it home and have a couple of crystals that they've

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:08.260
ground and can use with these parasat type radios

00:36:08.260 --> 00:36:11.019
and obviously these crystals once they're ground

00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:13.079
and stuff can be used both in the solid state

00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.519
version and some people are making tube type

00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.039
replicas that are are even more hewn towards

00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.219
the original But I like the solid state one,

00:36:22.420 --> 00:36:24.420
because it's a lot lighter and a lot easier to

00:36:24.420 --> 00:36:27.980
deal with. But it's going to be a lot of fun.

00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:33.280
Now, the Buildathon at Ozarkon, this one is going

00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:39.619
to be an 80 meter CW transceiver. And it's also

00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:44.579
designed by David Kripe, NM0S. And it's kind

00:36:44.579 --> 00:36:49.000
of a better version of a Pixi. Much more sensitive

00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.300
receiver so you can actually hear something a

00:36:51.300 --> 00:36:54.780
lot easier And it will still have the spiral

00:36:54.780 --> 00:36:58.280
wound coils on the board just for 80 meters so

00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:02.239
that the output matches the FCC specs for harmonic

00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.539
output and so forth and makes a bandpass filter

00:37:05.539 --> 00:37:09.820
for the input so It's going to be a spectacular

00:37:09.820 --> 00:37:13.530
build -a -thon season Excellent, and we want

00:37:13.530 --> 00:37:16.730
to get into some more ham -vincing stuff, but

00:37:16.730 --> 00:37:19.110
if you've got a question, we just have a few

00:37:19.110 --> 00:37:22.849
minutes left. So give us a call now at 812 -NATAM

00:37:22.849 --> 00:37:28.730
-1. That's 812 -638 -4261. or tweet us over at

00:37:28.730 --> 00:37:32.929
HamTalk Live. And again, on the questions, realize

00:37:32.929 --> 00:37:35.329
that Joe isn't the official spokesperson for

00:37:35.329 --> 00:37:38.429
Dara. He's just one of their special guests and

00:37:38.429 --> 00:37:43.429
has documented by photography tons and tons of

00:37:43.429 --> 00:37:46.869
Hamvention history. So he'll be able to answer

00:37:46.869 --> 00:37:49.329
your questions as best he can, but we're still.

00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:54.440
hoping to get some of the committee on here soon

00:37:54.440 --> 00:38:01.079
and again before hamvention takes place so we

00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.360
can get as much information as possible that's

00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:09.059
up to date so 812 net ham one is the number if

00:38:09.059 --> 00:38:12.079
you want to give us a call do that right now

00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:16.429
and i know During the commercial we were talking

00:38:16.429 --> 00:38:18.989
you said you want to talk a little bit about

00:38:18.989 --> 00:38:24.449
traffic and the Talk -in arrangements and some

00:38:24.449 --> 00:38:28.250
changes that were going on on that. So Go ahead

00:38:28.250 --> 00:38:32.590
and address those and we'll see if we have some

00:38:32.590 --> 00:38:37.510
questions for you All right, Neil. Well The obvious

00:38:37.510 --> 00:38:40.130
obstacle here when you're looking at the Google

00:38:40.130 --> 00:38:42.630
map is the fact that the road that goes in front

00:38:42.630 --> 00:38:45.750
of it is two lanes without a turn lane or shoulder

00:38:45.750 --> 00:38:49.210
So you're going to have to have some active traffic

00:38:49.210 --> 00:38:52.469
control to get things moving there Correctly

00:38:52.469 --> 00:38:54.829
and obviously the local residents are going to

00:38:54.829 --> 00:39:00.110
have to avoid that area They said that they actually

00:39:00.110 --> 00:39:04.190
have somebody who is a professional traffic engineer

00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:09.139
And he is working carefully on traffic patterns

00:39:09.139 --> 00:39:12.659
and ideas to get people in and out the quickest

00:39:12.659 --> 00:39:16.320
way possible. And is working with, I think they

00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.800
said four different law enforcement agencies,

00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:22.480
including the county sheriff, the Xenia police,

00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.139
the people that run the park, as well as the

00:39:27.139 --> 00:39:31.440
Ohio Highway Patrol. And they're going to. make

00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:34.559
an effort to make sure that traffic moves smoothly

00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.380
going in and out because once again, you're bringing

00:39:38.380 --> 00:39:41.699
in 25 ,000 people into a county fairgrounds that

00:39:41.699 --> 00:39:44.719
previously has seen about 8 ,000 or more on a

00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:49.179
peak day in the county fair. So not that it can't

00:39:49.179 --> 00:39:53.019
handle it because it will, but we're going to

00:39:53.019 --> 00:39:57.139
be needing to use the resources as best possible.

00:39:57.460 --> 00:40:00.099
And they showed me how they're going to have

00:40:00.099 --> 00:40:03.179
a group that Normally is responsible for parking

00:40:03.179 --> 00:40:05.940
the cars during the county fair and they will

00:40:05.940 --> 00:40:10.360
be Premarking the parking area and organizing

00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.420
and routing the cars in so everybody gets parked

00:40:13.420 --> 00:40:16.119
as quickly as possible and gets out gets in those

00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:20.639
wagons and on to the gates Very good, and then

00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.179
you mentioned something about talking. Yeah,

00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:27.760
of course 146 .94 is the main Darrow repeater

00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.630
they may have Another repeater that may or may

00:40:31.630 --> 00:40:34.530
not we're not sure you know might have some recorded

00:40:34.530 --> 00:40:38.369
messages or something and There might be other

00:40:38.369 --> 00:40:41.210
outlets through the local broadcasters and so

00:40:41.210 --> 00:40:45.670
forth to make sure that people know what they're

00:40:45.670 --> 00:40:48.809
dealing with because absolutely the first day

00:40:48.809 --> 00:40:52.809
or two of this thing is going to be Interesting

00:40:52.809 --> 00:40:56.780
because nobody's been there And everybody knew

00:40:56.780 --> 00:40:59.260
where they were going going to hair arena because

00:40:59.260 --> 00:41:02.380
each year only a small percentage five or ten

00:41:02.380 --> 00:41:04.519
percent or so were people who had never been

00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.659
there So here you're dealing with almost a hundred

00:41:07.659 --> 00:41:10.500
percent of people have never been to this place

00:41:10.500 --> 00:41:13.960
so the talking is going to be important and keeping

00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.099
an ear out because obviously there'll be people

00:41:16.099 --> 00:41:19.019
going the same way you are and Listening to those

00:41:19.019 --> 00:41:21.980
instructions as well as having some kind of GPS

00:41:21.980 --> 00:41:26.329
or something might be handy as well Yeah, everybody

00:41:26.329 --> 00:41:30.949
had their own little favorite way to to get there

00:41:30.949 --> 00:41:35.030
and and to get to where you wanted to go and

00:41:35.030 --> 00:41:38.849
That's all gone now. So Well, we're just gonna

00:41:38.849 --> 00:41:42.250
be alerting experience We'll find our new favorites

00:41:42.250 --> 00:41:45.190
and a lot of people are changing where they stay

00:41:45.190 --> 00:41:49.190
My hotel is now in the Beaver Creek area. So

00:41:49.900 --> 00:41:52.760
I don't have to travel as far if I if I kept

00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:56.019
my old reservation I'd be driving an extra 25

00:41:56.019 --> 00:41:59.480
30 minutes each way so It's a big difference

00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.920
and so there will be people changing where they

00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:05.239
stay now now those who stay like at UD at the

00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.519
University of Dayton dorms and the downtown hotels

00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:11.460
They aren't any farther. It's just a different

00:42:11.460 --> 00:42:13.800
direction. It's about the same time in the same

00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:17.820
distance, and I've checked it out And, uh, but

00:42:17.820 --> 00:42:20.039
if you're staying like in the Northwest part

00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.179
of town, because you were closer to hair arena

00:42:22.179 --> 00:42:25.400
that that's going to be a longer drive. Yeah.

00:42:25.579 --> 00:42:28.559
And it looks like, uh, mine's about the same.

00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.699
Uh, I usually end up on the South and, and, uh,

00:42:32.699 --> 00:42:35.099
it looks like about the same. Yeah. Miami's burger

00:42:35.099 --> 00:42:38.860
will be right about exactly the same. Yeah. So,

00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.559
well, Joe, I hate to say it, but We've run out

00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:47.519
of time We could go on and on. Oh, yes, we could

00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:52.119
and I enjoy working with you Neil Well, I enjoy

00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.840
having you come on and talk about this stuff.

00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.760
And of course, we'll have you back soon, and

00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.059
maybe we'll get more into some of the kits and

00:43:03.059 --> 00:43:06.019
that kind of thing. But thanks for coming on

00:43:06.019 --> 00:43:09.079
the show and sharing what you've learned from

00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.500
your visit to Xenia, Ohio, and I look forward

00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:17.079
to seeing you there, if not before. You bet.

00:43:17.460 --> 00:43:20.599
I really look forward to it. All right. That's

00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:26.130
Joe Eisenberg, KZeroNEB, and that's a wrap. for

00:43:26.130 --> 00:43:28.309
this week's edition of HamTalk Live. I'd like

00:43:28.309 --> 00:43:31.010
to thank Joe and all the callers and listeners

00:43:31.010 --> 00:43:33.489
and tweeters out there in cyberspace and invite

00:43:33.489 --> 00:43:36.250
you back next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern

00:43:36.250 --> 00:43:40.190
Time when George Nicholson in for GRN is gonna

00:43:40.190 --> 00:43:42.670
be here and I'm really looking forward to this.

00:43:43.420 --> 00:43:46.059
We've had all kinds of shows about the big de

00:43:46.059 --> 00:43:48.780
-expeditions and some of those top ten de -expeditions

00:43:48.780 --> 00:43:51.440
and this is the guy who does all the packing

00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:55.159
for those. This is the guy who takes care of

00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.260
all of the packing and logistics for Bob Alfen

00:44:00.260 --> 00:44:05.079
and several of the big de -expeditions. So looking

00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.280
forward to that next week and for a list of all

00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.860
of our upcoming guests be sure to visit HamTalk

00:44:10.860 --> 00:44:15.750
Live. So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG,

00:44:15.829 --> 00:44:20.750
saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may the good DX be yours.

00:44:52.809 --> 00:44:57.289
Seven three and good luck from ham talk live
