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It's time for yet another episode of HamTalk

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Live. It's number 52, DXing with Fred Rigenider

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in K4IU, recorded live on Thursday, February

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16th, 2017. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG.

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Thanks for tuning into this episode of HamTalk

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Live. Tonight, we're joined by Fred Reganider

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Time right here at HamTalkLive .com and if you

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podcasting websites. Fred Rigginiter, K4IU, is

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a retired orthodontist and consummate DXer and

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contestor. He traveled the world as an officer

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in the US Army as an orthodontist, being stationed

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in Germany, Seoul, South Korea, and the Canal

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Zone, as well as across the USA, including as

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the commander of orthodontics while stationed

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at Fort Knox, Kentucky. While at Fort Knox, he

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had a stealth Yagi living next door to the base

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commander even. He's operated from Germany, Korea,

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and the Canal Zone with his wife Judy K0UH. He

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was a big contester in the Canal Zone working

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with Jim K4SQR who started Comtech Products.

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Fred worked DXCC from the canal zone and from

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Korea. He was transferred back to the continental

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United States in the 80s and landed at Fort Knox,

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Kentucky. He and Judy raised two children, Chris

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and Jill. Chris followed his dad's footsteps

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and did a short career in the army after graduating

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from West Point. And Chris is now an executive

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with Frito -Lay and Jill went on to the best

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university south of the Ohio river. It's the

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university of Kentucky where she majored in marketing

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and was a member of my beloved big blue nation.

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Uh, she's a strong UK fan even to this day and

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she lives in Chicago. And that instantly just...

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Made her okay in my book. I haven't met her,

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but that's okay. She's a part of big blue nation.

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So, uh, Fred and Judy have six grandchildren

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and, uh, he taught at that other big university

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in Kentucky that I try not to talk about. That's

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the university of Louisville, uh, in the dental

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school and was a member of the Kentucky contest

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group. So Fred now, uh, competes with wires in

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his backyard. He has an off center fed dipole.

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runs a Flex 6700 and an ICOM 7700. He's a local

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contest mentor to hams in the Rochester Minnesota

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community and is a board member of the Minnesota

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Wireless Association. Fred's an active contester

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weekly in the CWT and nearly every weekend in

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a contest. He has more quesos per foot of wire

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than most hams ever dream possible. And he's

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almost completed 80 meter DXCC just on an off

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-center fed dipole. So Fred, welcome to HamTalk

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Live. Well, thanks, Neil. I'm honored to be your

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guest on this first anniversary of your radio

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talk show. Happy birthday. Thank you. Thank you.

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And I'll try not to hold the Louisville thing

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against you. We were talking about that a little

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bit before the show. well thank you what we'll

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try to skip over there is a lot of work my resume

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they're exactly but everything else you know

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we could we could we could overlook that being

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that being u k fan that i am so uh... we we just

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want to talk some dexing tonight and you've had

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uh... a rare experience of being able to work

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the act cc uh... from several different places

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and and uh... and DX from not just here in the

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United States but from several locations. So

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the first question here is for somebody starting

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out in DXing and wants to work toward getting

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100 entities for DXCC, what would you recommend

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is the best way to accomplish that goal for the

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first time? Well, you have to get on the air.

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You know, Neil, it's often easy to work DXCC

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in a single contest weekend. And I think electronic

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logs have taught a lot. A log book of the world

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makes it easy to get the confirmations without

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doing all the busy work with QSL -ing and SASCs.

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You know, consider the major DX contests promoted

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by the American Radio Relay League, CQ Magazine.

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There's one this weekend, the American Radio

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Relay League CW DX Contest. If you don't do Morse

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code, wait until next month when it's single

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sideband. And don't forget, there are some of

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the DX contests, good ones, sponsored by countries

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outside of North America that worked all European

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contests, Russian Federation contests, JARL,

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French contests, HA, Hungarian, Polish, and Scandinavian,

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just to name a few. There are weekly and monthly

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annual contest calendars. You can find these

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on a number of different sites. One of them is

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WA7B &M's site, the CQ and QST publications.

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On a day -to -day basis, I think spotting networks

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are helpful. And of course, there are newsletters

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like the Daily DX, QRZDX, you know. Neil, DX

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is relative. It can be a remote rock or island,

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or it can be an entity, which prohibits ham radio.

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If you take a look at the 10 most wanted lists,

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10 most wanted DX entity lists, now it's different

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than it was 10 years ago, or 20 years ago. Number

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two on that list is Bouvet Island. You've had

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one of your guests, Ralph Fedora, KZO Isle, I

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think. So he's been there and that's number two

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on the list. P5 is number one the North Korean

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Republic. Which by the way, I saw that come across

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DX Summit today. Really? Somebody decided to

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spot P5DX today. Well, I don't know if it's a

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pirate or a swimmer or who that is. Today was

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the day that It was supposed to happen from the

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guy that was stateside. Today was the day he

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was supposed to go. The cancelled trip. Well,

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I could definitely put that one in my log book.

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Yeah. As could I. So those are just some suggestions.

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I mean, the radios are sophisticated now. They

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do what you have to do for antennas, but 100

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watts to wire. a good contest weekend with a

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little help from the solar cycle, I think it's

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entirely possible to get it knocked out pretty

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fast. Well, there's a lot of opportunities to

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get these. And like you said, in a contest, we

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did this at school where I teach. We got DXCC.

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worked at least. We didn't get it all confirmed

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yet, but we got it all worked in just a weekend

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on CQ Worldwide. So there's opportunities like

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that. And then how do you like to keep up with

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all the de -expeditions, the Bouvet Islands and

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the Peter Wands and those? How do you like to

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keep up with those? Well, probably the best is

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some of the the DX newsletters, I like the daily

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DX. And then, you know, I just get on. I'm more

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interested in the contesting aspect of it now

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than chasing down the DXCCs. I have work to do,

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you know, I need a few more on 80 for five band

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DXCC from this QTH and I think, you know, a contest

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we can do. I could probably knock that out. We're

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not out of time for this season though. Yeah,

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it's not an optimal time for a lot of those with

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the cycle where it is as well, so it makes it

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difficult. Well, let's talk about DXing from

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other countries. So do you think it's easier

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to get contacts when you're not in the United

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States and you've got that call sign from someplace

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else? What's different about DXing when you're

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not here in the United States? Well, it never

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hurts if you're on the air to have a rare, cool

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call. DX is kind of irrelevant. It just depends.

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So what's DX for me is maybe not necessarily

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DX for a JA. So DXing is the... Kind of the pursuit

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of distance with the goal of earning an award

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like the FCC or worked all zones And your DX

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and neighbors are all going to be a little different.

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So for example in Korea You know, it's difficult

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from that part of the world to work into the

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Caribbean So we had to get through a wall of

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Jay's to overcome to be able to work the VP fives

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and you know the KP twos and and to the west

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at least in the 80s there was this huge interference

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from what was known as the Russian Woodpecker.

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And this was kind of their over -the -horizon

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radar, and it would randomly show up in 20 meters,

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and it was a lot of interference. In the canal

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zone, from KZ -5, we had great propagation worldwide.

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We were near the water in the equatorial zone,

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and it was always good. In Germany, You know,

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we had Russians and Italians. I didn't really

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have a very good set -up in Germany antenna -wise.

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It was tough to, you know, if you're working

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in, let's say, a double RL VX contest, you know,

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we're trying to work the west coast and we have

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to get over the east coast first. So differences

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can also occur in some of these countries, not

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so much in the ones, you know, like Germany,

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Korea, Panama, but differences can occur in,

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you know, just the local infrastructure, you

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know. electricity may not be always 100 % reliable.

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You might need generators. 20 or 30 years ago,

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we didn't have the luxury of the internet. Now,

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you're in VP5 and the internet goes down. It's

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like somebody cut one of your antennas, but you

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know what I mean. The climates, like I go back

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to Ralph's, his free wife, Bouvet Island expedition,

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the harsh climates. In some countries, we just

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talked about P5, restrictive governments, they

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all make a difference. A few years ago, it was

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the ZAs, Albanians weren't on, BYs weren't on.

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Now you've got some of my mentors like Scott

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KZRMD going over there and operating a contest

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from a club station. So it's kind of a moving

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landscape. Well, tell me a little bit more about

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this stealth. Yaggy. Now, Scott tells me that

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you had this set up next to the base commander's

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house. Well, we have to get one thing straight.

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So a base is an Air Force location. A post is

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an Army post. So on the Army post at Fort Knox,

00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.900
it was right in his backyard. We had been stationed

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in Fort Knox before, and I had a tower up one

00:18:14.099 --> 00:18:17.359
of the other. housing developments, but this

00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:20.500
time we were kind of up on Colonel's Row and,

00:18:20.500 --> 00:18:24.539
you know, post commander is a two -star, major

00:18:24.539 --> 00:18:28.480
general, and so I had this TA -33 Junior, which

00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:30.200
is kind of a small, lightweight antenna. I put

00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:32.779
it on a TV mass, I spray painted it, not Army

00:18:32.779 --> 00:18:35.180
camouflage back then, but spray painted it so

00:18:35.180 --> 00:18:38.519
it didn't stand out too much, but it was fine.

00:18:38.619 --> 00:18:40.859
I had to turn it up with the Armstrong method.

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And it worked out okay. I mean, it was better

00:18:45.390 --> 00:18:47.910
than not being on the air. And it really didn't

00:18:47.910 --> 00:18:50.910
have any problems. You know, in the military,

00:18:51.029 --> 00:18:55.150
I'd move most of my hardware, the tower and the

00:18:55.150 --> 00:18:59.890
antennas with being a Mars affiliate, military

00:18:59.890 --> 00:19:02.509
amateur radio service. And that's still in existence

00:19:02.509 --> 00:19:06.130
today. But the weight did not count against your

00:19:06.130 --> 00:19:09.329
household goods. So when you move in the Army,

00:19:09.859 --> 00:19:11.680
The amount of stuff you can move kind of depends

00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:15.619
on your rank That did not come against my my

00:19:15.619 --> 00:19:17.539
move which was good because we still need to

00:19:17.539 --> 00:19:21.079
close in furniture Well, yeah, you might need

00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:25.140
those things, but you have to decide if you had

00:19:25.140 --> 00:19:28.759
to decide that wouldn't be a good good decision

00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:31.680
Yeah, even having the next while who's a ham

00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.299
she probably wouldn't side with me on that one

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Probably probably correct Well, that's a good

00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:42.799
story. Well, we're going to take a quick break

00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:46.359
and then we're going to come back and we're going

00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:49.339
to take your calls live. So if you have some

00:19:49.339 --> 00:19:54.180
questions about DXing and some of Fred's adventures,

00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:59.539
give us a call. It's 812 -NET -HAM -1 is the

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00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:43.119
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00:21:43.140 --> 00:21:46.759
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00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:07.240
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00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:10.819
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tweet us at HamTalk Live, and we do have a couple

00:22:14.500 --> 00:22:18.319
of tweets ready to go here too. But while we're

00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:22.559
waiting on the calls, Fred, you had a couple

00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:27.119
other things about working from overseas that

00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:29.400
you wanted to throw in here, so why don't you

00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:32.859
go ahead and do that? Well, many hams don't have

00:22:32.859 --> 00:22:36.019
like a high school club like you have. We were

00:22:36.019 --> 00:22:38.099
lucky, I was in rural Iowa, small town Iowa,

00:22:38.740 --> 00:22:44.289
and there was a ham K0RLX Anton helped me earn

00:22:44.289 --> 00:22:47.930
my license and my brothers. And as I was active,

00:22:48.029 --> 00:22:51.069
I met another guy who later would become a good

00:22:51.069 --> 00:22:55.630
friend, Steve W0HT, who was a radiologist, retired.

00:22:55.950 --> 00:22:58.150
And he got me interested in DXing back in the

00:22:58.150 --> 00:23:01.289
70s. So between him and the mentor I previously

00:23:01.289 --> 00:23:05.430
mentioned, KZ5JM, that was kind of my learning.

00:23:06.970 --> 00:23:10.230
And KZ -5 was a looting experience with DX and

00:23:10.230 --> 00:23:13.710
DXing. We had 24 -7 propagation pretty much everywhere.

00:23:13.890 --> 00:23:17.210
I had good antennas, mono -banders, big power,

00:23:17.369 --> 00:23:20.769
and it was just fun. Hotel Lima 9 was fun because,

00:23:20.910 --> 00:23:23.329
as a U .S. ham, all of the call signs in that

00:23:23.329 --> 00:23:25.730
part of the planet were exotic to me because

00:23:25.730 --> 00:23:30.109
I just worked the stateside stations. So the

00:23:30.109 --> 00:23:35.079
deep Central Asia stations and... Malaysia and

00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:37.039
Indonesia, you know, those were like my back

00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:40.319
hair, but they felt like real DX. In Germany,

00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:46.500
DA to call, you know, I was just, again, this

00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:49.859
garden variety DX, really not that much of a

00:23:49.859 --> 00:23:52.920
DX station, but it was fun to be able to hear

00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.779
what DX sounded like from that QTH. And so I

00:23:56.779 --> 00:23:59.500
think with contesting that helps in kind of knowing

00:23:59.849 --> 00:24:02.430
when those guys were listening and what their

00:24:02.430 --> 00:24:05.430
conditions are like too. So that's just the continuation

00:24:05.430 --> 00:24:07.529
of the story, what it was like to operate for

00:24:07.529 --> 00:24:10.970
a protracted period of time from other QTHs.

00:24:11.569 --> 00:24:15.009
812 -NET -HAM -1 is the phone number. If you'd

00:24:15.009 --> 00:24:19.450
like to talk to Fred about DXing, give us a call.

00:24:19.690 --> 00:24:25.349
812 -NET -HAM -1 is the number or you can Skype

00:24:25.349 --> 00:24:30.299
us or tweet us. at HamTalk Live. Well, Dr. Scott

00:24:30.299 --> 00:24:36.039
Wright, K0MD, as we mentioned, did have a couple

00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:41.700
of questions ready for you. And he wants to know

00:24:41.700 --> 00:24:44.619
which of the five locations you've worked DXCC

00:24:44.619 --> 00:24:49.299
from was the hardest and the most interesting.

00:24:50.460 --> 00:24:52.960
And he wanted to know, can you compare DXing

00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.779
from those as an operator, which I think we We

00:24:55.779 --> 00:24:58.299
kind of addressed that a little bit, but if you

00:24:58.299 --> 00:25:00.279
have anything else you can think of on that,

00:25:00.380 --> 00:25:04.420
that's fine, too. Well, I've been a ham a long

00:25:04.420 --> 00:25:07.559
time, and so I wouldn't say working DXAC from

00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.539
the States is that difficult. Over the time that

00:25:10.539 --> 00:25:13.799
we were in Germany, it was difficult. Probably

00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:16.319
the fastest time was a weekend, a couple weekends

00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:19.359
in the VP5 land, so we got on there for the contest.

00:25:19.460 --> 00:25:21.519
We've been down there, I think, three times.

00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:27.359
with Scott and his team W0B and KC0W and K0PC.

00:25:28.099 --> 00:25:31.420
You know, we worked out a day practically. And

00:25:31.420 --> 00:25:35.980
so I think the Caribbean has been a good location

00:25:35.980 --> 00:25:41.480
for me to knock out DXCC the fastest. All right,

00:25:41.500 --> 00:25:46.660
very good. Now, what do you think made Germany

00:25:46.660 --> 00:25:51.660
a little more challenging? Well, you don't have

00:25:51.660 --> 00:25:54.200
that cool call sign. The antennas really were

00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:57.859
the problem. I lived in a restricted antenna

00:25:57.859 --> 00:26:01.440
network, so I didn't have good location right

00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:06.299
next to the post commander. We were in a stairwell,

00:26:06.619 --> 00:26:11.339
which it's Army slang for living in multi -unit

00:26:11.339 --> 00:26:16.160
dwelling, like a series of condos. You've got

00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.839
to keep a low profile antenna and minimize all

00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:21.359
the RFI. We had a club station there as well,

00:26:21.420 --> 00:26:23.619
but it was just too lazy to get down there and

00:26:23.619 --> 00:26:29.119
use it routinely. And another question from Dr.

00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:33.940
Scott Wright, KZeroMD. Can you tell a substantial

00:26:33.940 --> 00:26:38.079
difference in the receivers between your ICOM

00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:43.140
7700 and the FLEX 6700 when contesting or DXing?

00:26:43.529 --> 00:26:48.529
other than the top drawer pan adapter? On the

00:26:48.529 --> 00:26:51.390
Flex. Well, I like them both. I've had the Flex

00:26:51.390 --> 00:26:54.230
for a little bit less than a year. I have to

00:26:54.230 --> 00:26:56.029
tell you, I just scratched the surface on this

00:26:56.029 --> 00:27:00.150
radio's capability. So it's a 6700. And Neil,

00:27:00.170 --> 00:27:03.250
it's got eight receivers. You can look at eight,

00:27:03.250 --> 00:27:09.849
and it's two radios in one. So it's just a multi,

00:27:09.990 --> 00:27:12.390
I mean, there's so much flexibility with it.

00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.460
It's an amazing radio, so I try to use it. I

00:27:16.460 --> 00:27:18.599
have to say, though, in all honesty, it is not

00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:21.640
my go -to contest radio, but it is my, that radio

00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:25.700
is on all the time. And, you know, I come downstairs

00:27:25.700 --> 00:27:28.619
and I look at the pan adapters and see what's

00:27:28.619 --> 00:27:31.460
going on. I mean, it's just kind of a cool thing.

00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:34.180
So I'm looking forward to kind of really getting

00:27:34.180 --> 00:27:36.759
into that radio. Superheterodynes, you know,

00:27:36.859 --> 00:27:39.579
like... I've done 70, 700, I've been around for

00:27:39.579 --> 00:27:42.619
a long time, 100 years. But recently you've probably

00:27:42.619 --> 00:27:45.640
have seen the SDRs make the top of Rob Sherwood's

00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:51.079
list. But like I said, for serious contest activity,

00:27:51.140 --> 00:27:55.480
I'm on the ICOM, and I've had ICOMs for many,

00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.700
many years. And so part of it is just familiarity

00:27:57.700 --> 00:28:00.640
with the dial layout, and as I get older I'm

00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:05.380
a little less flexible. But the flex is, like

00:28:05.380 --> 00:28:09.079
Scott said, The pan adapter is amazing and it's

00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:14.099
such a visual experience. The integration of

00:28:14.099 --> 00:28:18.259
the visual and the sound, being able to look

00:28:18.259 --> 00:28:21.140
at not just one band but say eight bands, which

00:28:21.140 --> 00:28:26.000
I rarely do, but you could, it's just remarkable.

00:28:27.220 --> 00:28:30.759
On my webpage I've got a couple of picture QSLs

00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.980
from way back when, and none of those pictures,

00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:39.069
are there any computers? Okay, so very few computer

00:28:39.069 --> 00:28:40.650
monitors now you look at the average station

00:28:40.650 --> 00:28:44.150
They may have one or more and you know the bigger

00:28:44.150 --> 00:28:46.250
the better so there's a lot of power in this

00:28:46.250 --> 00:28:49.809
visual Sound interaction and and really if you

00:28:49.809 --> 00:28:52.329
look at those pan adapters now you've got a sense

00:28:52.329 --> 00:28:54.309
of time as well So you can almost say it's three

00:28:54.309 --> 00:28:55.869
-dimensional. I know that you've had some of

00:28:55.869 --> 00:28:59.890
the SDR folks on here, too I I hate to highlight

00:28:59.890 --> 00:29:02.670
my Ignorance about you know some of the more

00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:05.569
some of this technology, but I like them both

00:29:05.849 --> 00:29:10.130
Oh yeah, I think they both have a lot of benefits.

00:29:11.930 --> 00:29:14.549
It's always a good question to ask. It's one

00:29:14.549 --> 00:29:16.990
that we ask a lot is, which one do you like better?

00:29:17.089 --> 00:29:21.750
Because there's still some advantages and disadvantages

00:29:21.750 --> 00:29:26.750
to both and so we'll see how it all plays out.

00:29:27.029 --> 00:29:29.390
Right, and you've got a 7300 and so you've got

00:29:29.390 --> 00:29:33.769
a taste of the SDR at a price point that is very

00:29:33.769 --> 00:29:38.150
good. Oh yeah. What do you think? I tell you

00:29:38.150 --> 00:29:42.130
what, I've been a Kenwood fan all my life and

00:29:42.130 --> 00:29:47.930
the 7300 at school that we have, we're just falling

00:29:47.930 --> 00:29:52.950
in love with it. The options of the scope and

00:29:52.950 --> 00:29:56.970
the touchscreen and how quiet it is compared

00:29:56.970 --> 00:30:01.519
to what I'm used to with the SDR is just... Just

00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:05.000
fabulous, so. That's a lot cheaper than the 991,

00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:07.779
isn't it? Oh yeah, it's a lot cheaper than that

00:30:07.779 --> 00:30:11.819
990 that I keep wanting, and Scott keeps reminding

00:30:11.819 --> 00:30:14.920
me that I need. Well, we've got a caller on the

00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:17.839
line. He's been patiently waiting, so let's see

00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:23.440
who we have here. Welcome to HamTalk Live. Hello?

00:30:25.940 --> 00:30:31.680
Are you there? Okay, we have lost our caller,

00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:36.299
so if you want to call back, give us a call.

00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:44.519
812 -NET -HAM -1 is the number. 812 -638 -4261

00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:49.759
to talk with Fred, and hopefully they'll call

00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:58.519
us back here in a minute. Oh, here we go. Let's

00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:01.599
see if we can pick this up. Yeah, now we've got

00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:08.579
you. Who's this? This is WB0WIV Gordon. Hey,

00:31:08.579 --> 00:31:11.420
Gordon. Thanks for calling. I had a question

00:31:11.420 --> 00:31:14.240
for Fred since he was kind of my mentor, got

00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.279
me started in AM radio years ago. We both came

00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:21.099
from the same hometown. And I just kind of wondered

00:31:21.099 --> 00:31:26.279
if Fred had any ideas on how to work. some of

00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:32.259
the more Central Asian countries from Eastern

00:31:32.259 --> 00:31:37.000
Iowa since I don't have much luck at it Well,

00:31:37.180 --> 00:31:39.460
thanks Gordon good to hear you again and Gordon

00:31:39.460 --> 00:31:44.680
was One of yes, we worked him on 10 meters from

00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:46.960
HL 9 land which is pretty remarkable feet at

00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.140
the time He was using the dipole. So if you can

00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:52.920
work Korea, I think that Gordon if you If you

00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:54.440
just kind of keep your ears out, watch those

00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:59.660
spotting networks. First of all, ham activity

00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:02.099
tends to cluster around technology. And in certain

00:32:02.099 --> 00:32:05.000
parts of the world, that technology doesn't exist.

00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.740
And I think some of the Stans, and I think that's

00:32:07.740 --> 00:32:10.640
what you're referring to, Tersmekistan, and let's

00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:14.660
see, that's number 10 or 11 on the list, Kazikistan.

00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:21.400
Those countries just don't have a lot of operators.

00:32:22.579 --> 00:32:26.220
Again, the governments are restrictive, so the

00:32:26.220 --> 00:32:31.099
Maldives, Diego Garcia, those may be a little

00:32:31.099 --> 00:32:34.539
bit further south than Central Asia, but you

00:32:34.539 --> 00:32:36.160
got to have people that are hamps who are there.

00:32:36.700 --> 00:32:39.799
Does that help? Yes, it does. Thank you, Fred.

00:32:39.859 --> 00:32:43.160
Appreciate it. Good to hear you. Thanks for calling

00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:48.700
in, Gordon. Appreciate it. 812 Net Ham 1 is the

00:32:48.700 --> 00:32:52.900
phone number 812 -638 -4261 or you can Skype

00:32:52.900 --> 00:32:57.700
us or tweet us at HamTalkLive. We do have a few

00:32:57.700 --> 00:33:01.059
minutes remaining so if you want to ask a question

00:33:01.059 --> 00:33:04.980
about DXing or something about Fred's experiences

00:33:04.980 --> 00:33:08.299
why go ahead and give us a call or a tweet right

00:33:08.299 --> 00:33:16.420
now at 812 Net Ham 1. So, talk a little bit about

00:33:16.420 --> 00:33:20.299
contesting. What is your favorite contest award?

00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.019
Well, Neil, I'm, as you know, antenna restricted,

00:33:26.099 --> 00:33:30.019
so we have some limitations. So I personally

00:33:30.019 --> 00:33:32.799
like the CWA contest. I feel like I'm a better

00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.660
competitor and I like the CQ Worldwide CWA contest

00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:40.180
in November. We've done the CQ Worldwide Single

00:33:40.180 --> 00:33:43.359
Side Band in October, as I mentioned, with Scott

00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:49.619
down from BP5 land. These are big league contest

00:33:49.619 --> 00:33:52.440
events with a variety of operators. There are

00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:56.660
big guns and little pistols together. No matter

00:33:56.660 --> 00:34:00.180
what the contest, every competitor is important

00:34:00.180 --> 00:34:04.700
to the success of the event. If you're a big

00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:07.079
gun station, you need little guns to give you

00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.199
a call. keep your rate up. So everybody's important,

00:34:10.219 --> 00:34:12.860
everybody has a role. With the skills and the

00:34:12.860 --> 00:34:17.880
station designs, some of those can change, but

00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.219
there are also some equalizers like solar conditions,

00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:24.219
and they all tend to affect the conditions, the

00:34:24.219 --> 00:34:27.139
conditions affect the contestants equally. So

00:34:27.139 --> 00:34:29.539
you've had some amazing guest operators as well

00:34:29.539 --> 00:34:32.820
as owners and operators of super stations, so

00:34:32.820 --> 00:34:38.300
you know this too. 812 net ham one is the phone

00:34:38.300 --> 00:34:40.800
number. We have a few minutes left. So give us

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:47.800
a call 812 net ham one So yeah the the favorite

00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:53.260
contest maybe Whatever one is this weekend? Seeker

00:34:53.260 --> 00:34:57.679
worldwide CW man. Yeah. Yep. Yep. The I'm sorry.

00:34:57.739 --> 00:34:59.420
That's not right. That's not right. It's a double

00:34:59.420 --> 00:35:02.460
RLCW Got too excited about the CQ worldwide.

00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:11.179
Yeah, there you go I didn't mention the RTTY

00:35:11.179 --> 00:35:14.400
contest, so that's kind of a new mode for me.

00:35:14.500 --> 00:35:16.659
I've been active probably for only about eight

00:35:16.659 --> 00:35:20.199
or nine years, but that's a whole different world

00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.840
in itself, and some of these guys were in eight

00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.679
and single operator, four radials or three radials.

00:35:26.860 --> 00:35:29.699
That's amazing. Think about the way that these

00:35:29.699 --> 00:35:33.039
guys... And so that's why a radio like the Flex

00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:44.639
has a lot of potential. Sure. Well, what's your

00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:54.039
best recommendation to someone who hasn't worked

00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:58.440
one of these contests before and somebody that's

00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:03.639
new? What would you suggest to them to try to

00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.639
knock out, you know, 100 countries in a weekend?

00:36:07.579 --> 00:36:12.139
Get on 20 meters, get on with your 100 watts

00:36:12.139 --> 00:36:17.179
in a wire and just give somebody a call. Kind

00:36:17.179 --> 00:36:18.760
of know what the rules of the contest are. You

00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:22.139
go to one of the websites I mentioned, W7BNM's,

00:36:22.699 --> 00:36:24.519
and each one of those links tells you what the

00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:28.360
rules and the scoring is. It helps if you have

00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.960
computer logging, but you don't have to. You

00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.059
can still keep a paper log and just get on Saturday

00:36:35.059 --> 00:36:37.239
night or Sunday, Sunday morning, Sunday afternoon

00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.079
when things kind of thin out, the frenzy is over,

00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:43.960
and the big guns are looking for the little pistols.

00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:48.699
If you like phone, you don't do CW, get on phone.

00:36:49.059 --> 00:36:51.360
20 meters is going to be your go -to band with

00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.260
declining solar conditions. 40 meters might be

00:36:54.260 --> 00:36:56.090
a little bit more of a challenge, but I think

00:36:56.090 --> 00:37:00.409
20 for a stateside guy in the morning or afternoon,

00:37:00.449 --> 00:37:02.369
you're going to find some DX. Remember, it's

00:37:02.369 --> 00:37:07.789
all relative. Now, what is your strategy for

00:37:07.789 --> 00:37:13.769
the next few years when the dead bands are going

00:37:13.769 --> 00:37:18.630
to get worse? So what's your strategy for the

00:37:18.630 --> 00:37:21.750
next few years? Well, the low bands are going

00:37:21.750 --> 00:37:25.610
to probably be your new favorite bands, you know,

00:37:25.710 --> 00:37:29.449
2040, 80, maybe 160 if you've got some real estate

00:37:29.449 --> 00:37:34.610
you can put up. So I think, you know, you can

00:37:34.610 --> 00:37:38.650
work a lot of DX on 20 and 40 and that will keep

00:37:38.650 --> 00:37:41.289
us into the solar minimum and through the next

00:37:41.289 --> 00:37:48.010
maximum. Very good. 812 Nat Ham 1. We've got

00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:54.630
time for one more. 812 -638 -4261. If you have

00:37:54.630 --> 00:37:58.769
a question give us a call or a tweet here real

00:37:58.769 --> 00:38:01.809
quick and we're just about to finish things up

00:38:01.809 --> 00:38:06.070
with Fred and want to appreciate or extend our

00:38:06.070 --> 00:38:10.250
appreciation for you coming on the show and sharing

00:38:10.250 --> 00:38:14.050
some of your experiences with us. Tell us a little

00:38:14.050 --> 00:38:17.730
bit more about the canal zone and we actually

00:38:17.730 --> 00:38:23.059
posted a picture from Your QSL card from the

00:38:23.059 --> 00:38:27.380
canal zone on social media Tell us a little more

00:38:27.380 --> 00:38:30.900
about about operating from there Well, it's pretty

00:38:30.900 --> 00:38:34.280
amazing So, you know, I was done with school

00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:36.980
just finished a fellowship at Fort Brad, North

00:38:36.980 --> 00:38:39.440
Carolina So this is my first overseas first time

00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.599
really ever out of the country. So Junie and

00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:45.019
I we had a one -year -old went down there and

00:38:45.019 --> 00:38:49.059
We were stationed on the Atlantic side of the

00:38:49.059 --> 00:38:53.510
canal zone Remember, this was a 10 -mile wide,

00:38:53.570 --> 00:39:00.150
15 -mile long U .S. territory and had been there

00:39:00.150 --> 00:39:04.269
since the 1990s. And we took down the radio equipment.

00:39:04.809 --> 00:39:08.449
We were able to get a canal zone call through

00:39:08.449 --> 00:39:11.269
the local administration. We met some really

00:39:11.269 --> 00:39:14.670
good hands. I mentioned one of them, KZ -5JM.

00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:17.719
He was on the Pacific side. But on our side,

00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:22.300
I was able to help mentor a Ham KZ -5 RO. Ron,

00:39:22.659 --> 00:39:26.260
he's silent key now, but he was a fireman. There

00:39:26.260 --> 00:39:28.780
were a couple of physicians at the Cocosolo Hospital

00:39:28.780 --> 00:39:34.219
there, and we just made some friends, and I had

00:39:34.219 --> 00:39:38.059
the real estate and the antennas, four element

00:39:38.059 --> 00:39:42.699
mono -band or 204BA on 20, 153, three elements

00:39:42.699 --> 00:39:49.840
on 15, and. Three elements went 10. And it was

00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.860
just a great setup and a great location. They

00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:56.360
had tennis help, but I think the location was

00:39:56.360 --> 00:40:00.139
even better. So I'd seen patients during the

00:40:00.139 --> 00:40:03.019
day and we did some contest weekends with Jim.

00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.460
His favorite contest was always the... the CQ

00:40:07.460 --> 00:40:09.900
Worldwide WPX contest. We always had a unique

00:40:09.900 --> 00:40:15.699
call, KZ0DX. At the time, KZ5FR was a U .S. territory,

00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.280
so it was for sweepstakes, it was kind of like

00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:21.860
an entity that everybody wanted, so it was kind

00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:25.420
of cool to operate sweepstakes from down in KZ5

00:40:25.420 --> 00:40:31.500
land as well. So it was just a lot of fun. It

00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:34.349
really became a solid part of my... identity

00:40:34.349 --> 00:40:39.150
and happy to carry it through to this point in

00:40:39.150 --> 00:40:41.929
time. All right. Well, if you haven't checked

00:40:41.929 --> 00:40:49.409
out that QSL card on Fred's QRZ page or on our

00:40:49.409 --> 00:40:53.469
social media that we tweeted out and on Instagram

00:40:53.469 --> 00:40:56.530
and Facebook, check that out. It's a pretty cool

00:40:56.530 --> 00:41:00.550
picture. And Fred, thanks so much for coming

00:41:00.550 --> 00:41:03.860
on the show tonight. Really enjoyed it. And Hope

00:41:03.860 --> 00:41:07.059
to catch you down the log. Well, Neil, thank

00:41:07.059 --> 00:41:10.559
you. Good luck with your school roundup and thank

00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:13.139
you for all the work you do with the kids in

00:41:13.139 --> 00:41:16.119
your radio club. They're the future of the hobby.

00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:21.800
73. Thank you very much. That's a wrap for this

00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:25.340
week's edition of HamTalk Live. I'd like to thank

00:41:25.340 --> 00:41:30.480
my guest. Fred Rigginite or k4iu and everyone

00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.940
out there in cyberspace for listening and calling

00:41:32.940 --> 00:41:36.139
in and Invite you all back next week now next

00:41:36.139 --> 00:41:41.059
week Looking at doing the show actually on Wednesday

00:41:41.059 --> 00:41:43.139
night and we'll probably do that a little earlier

00:41:43.139 --> 00:41:47.420
so we don't run up against ham nation, but I've

00:41:47.420 --> 00:41:49.539
got to announce a basketball game next Thursday

00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:53.750
night happens once every other year and Next

00:41:53.750 --> 00:41:57.250
Thursday is the night that it happens on Thursday.

00:41:58.210 --> 00:42:02.769
So check Twitter or Facebook for the time, but

00:42:02.769 --> 00:42:04.670
I think we're going to do that a couple hours

00:42:04.670 --> 00:42:08.750
early, probably on Wednesday next week. And of

00:42:08.750 --> 00:42:11.969
course, if you tune in at the normal time, we're

00:42:11.969 --> 00:42:15.070
still there on the archive. You can listen to

00:42:15.070 --> 00:42:18.969
it anytime. So if you tune in at the regular

00:42:18.969 --> 00:42:21.889
time, just go ahead and hit play at that point.

00:42:22.539 --> 00:42:26.679
And so I just wanted to let you know that we

00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:30.679
won't be live during our normal time slot next

00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:35.119
week. But we will bring you another episode of

00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:39.699
HamTalk Live. And as we bring year one to a close.

00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:42.420
We thank you for listening, tweeting, and calling

00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:45.920
in, and hope you enjoy year number two even more

00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.099
than the first. For a list of all of our upcoming

00:42:49.099 --> 00:42:53.300
guests, visit HamTalkLive .com. So for now, this

00:42:53.300 --> 00:42:57.739
is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying seven three, seven

00:42:57.739 --> 00:43:20.519
five, and may the good DX be yours. Thanks for

00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:46.739
watching! 73, and good luck from HamTalk Live.
