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2017 with Carol Perry WB2MGP. It's our hamvention
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I want to let you know about another exciting
event coming up during Hamvention again this
year. The Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting
is just about 30 miles south of Dayton and they're
having an extended open house this year during
Hamvention. They always have one, but this year
it's two days. It's Friday, May 19th from 6 to
9 PM and Saturday, May 20th from 1 to 9 PM. You
can see the control room, one of the old Collins
transmitters, and more from the Bethany Relay
Station that was operated by Voice of America.
And in addition, they have a Cincinnati Museum
of Broadcasting there, the Gray Wireless Collection,
and get this Drake fans, a complete R .L. Drake
collection. Every single radio that was ever
made, it's R .L. Drake's personal collection.
on display. You can also operate the amateur
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And if you want to hear more about it, we did
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they're working on phase two of the renovations.
It's a great time, so try to work that in if
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I've had a very busy day at school. We had our
weekly Ham Radio Club meeting, which is usually
on Thursday, but today we did our first Girl
Scout patch class and we had about a dozen girls
come through that and all get on the air and
learn about ham radio so that was pretty cool
and working on another project everything goes
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afternoon so we'll we'll see how that goes but
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most popular podcasting websites. Carol Perry,
WB2MGP, is our guest once again this evening.
Carol is considered by most to be the leading
authority on teaching ham radio to young people.
She taught ham radio at Intermediate School 72
in Staten Island, New York for 30 years. She
travels across the globe speaking to hams about
involving young people in ham radio and using
it as a teaching tool. Carol Perry is the recipient
of the 1987 Dayton Amateur of the Year Award,
the 1987 ARRL Instructor of the Year Award, the
1991 Marconi Wireless Memorial Award, the 1993
QCWA President's Award and the 1996 RCA Barry
Goldwater Amateur Radio Award and the 2009 and
2012 RCA President's Awards, in addition to an
award from the Yasme Foundation. Carol is an
RCA Fellow, and in 2007 she was elected to the
RCA Board of Directors, a position she still
holds, and created the Youth Activities Committee,
which she now chairs, and created the RCA Young
Achievers Award, given to students in grade 12
and below who have demonstrated excellence and
creativity in wireless communications. Under
her leadership, the Youth Activities Committee
donates equipment, cash, grants, books, and supplies
to chosen schools or youth groups. Carol's moderated
the Dayton Hamvention Youth Forum and Instructors
Forum now for 30 years. She's a member of QCWA,
RCA, ARRL, DARA. the antique wireless association
and Brandeis women. And she's been a friend of
mine since the early days in the ham radio. And,
and we actually got a chance to talk before the
show tonight. We were joking that we never get
to talk at Dayton. So we got a chance to talk
a little bit before the show. Carol, thanks for
coming on. Oh, my pleasure, Neil. And it was
great having a, an opportunity to speak and catch
up with you. Well, there's so many changes coming
to Hamvention this year, and so we want to talk
a little bit about the new venue and some really
nice forum rooms. So tell us what you know so
far about where the forum is going to be held
this year. Okay, on Friday I will be moderating
the Instructor's Forum and that's going to be
in Room 3 from 10 .30 to 11 .30 a .m. That's
in Room 3 and they assure me it's a nice size
room. The Youth Forum, which is the big three
hour forum, is going to be in Room 2. and that's
going to be from 9 a .m. till noon and I am assured
that we won't have to have people sitting in
the aisles or standing room only because it has
a seating capacity of 400 plus. So I only hope
we fill up every seat. Yeah, that's that's great
because we would do run out of room sometimes
and so it's great that That we'll have that option
for some room. So Let's talk about the Instructors
forum first which again forum room 3 10 30 to
11 30 on Friday Who should be attending that
forum? well The ham radio person who should be
attending this is a teacher or instructor of
young people who are either looking to be inspired
or coaxed or cajoled into initiating a program
and want to come and get ideas on how to go about
starting such an initiative. or a person who's
already a scout master, teacher or instructor
working with young people and just wants to get
some new perspectives, some new ideas. And we
always have lots and lots of those at the instructors
forum. And another person who should be looking
to come would be just to become more enlightened
about what's going on with getting young people
recruited and involved in Hamre. So even if you're
a club member looking to get some young people
into your club, we can share ideas of how to
go about recruiting and keeping them involved
and getting involved from a teacher's or instructor's
perspective. Now who's going to be your speakers
this year at the instructors forum? Okay, well,
again, we never seem to have enough time, from
my point of view, of all the interesting people
we've got, both at the Youth Forum and the Instructors
Forum. This year, I have two speakers at the
Instructors Forum. One is Tamitha Slov, who is
the Space Weather Lady. And she's going to be
giving a presentation on the art of teaching
space weather. And it's really interesting. It's
different and a thoroughly enjoyable presentation.
And then I've got Joe K6Wao, who was the vice
president of education outreach for AMSAT. And
besides giving a great demonstration, he is going
to be giving away 10 antenna kits. So you want
to come to this forum. because of the interesting
speakers, because of the networking with other
instructors and teachers, but we're going to
be celebrating the 30th Instructors Forum and
the 30th Youth Forum with really incredible giveaway
prizes. Joe is giving away, as I said, 10 antenna
kits. He and I were working on how to go about.
giving them, giving them away. And I will in
addition be giving away a couple of Kenwood radios
to help. Again, the manufacturers have been extremely
generous in helping us to celebrate the 30th
of both of those forums, instructor and youth
forums. Very good. Well, it sounds like a great
time to come and learn about some teaching strategies
and things that can be useful in teaching a ham
radio class, young or old, and also get some
good prizes. And Dr. Scove has really been quite
a hit with the space weather, and I look forward
to hearing her thoughts on teaching that, because
that's a cool thing. And we've actually got one
of her talks on ham nation. did a little bit
of editing down for it and played it at school
to a lot of our kids. So they're familiar with
her and she's a great resource for space weather.
So definitely looking forward to that. Um, now
the youth forum is on Saturday and that's in
forum room two from nine 15 AM to 12 noon on
Saturday. Um, so who are you looking forward
to attend this one? Everybody. And there you
have it. Ladies and gentlemen, good night. Thanks
for listening. I cannot think of anybody. who
should not have some reason for coming to that
forum. If you are an amateur radio operator.
It is just something that will put a smile right
on your ham heart, I believe, once you see and
enjoy the best and the brightest and the most
wonderful, creative, talented young people that
you could possibly imagine with a variety of
topics that are simply incredible. So I think
everybody has a reason to come to that. And speak
about prizes, I will just whet your appetite.
Beside the kids who do the presentations all
getting the lion's share of prizes, the audience
is going to be having a great amount of prizes
that are going to be given out to the audience,
including ICOM. One of our big, big sponsors
is donating the ICOM 7100 to be given out as
an audience prize. Well, there you go. So you
need to show up, see what these amazing kids
are up to, and they're going to be talking on
a variety of different topics, so be sure to
check that out, and maybe you could even win,
but the kids will be winning, so... Tell us about
this year's speakers. Okay, well, I have nine
young speakers. And by the way, Miss Sloan will
be giving a little presentation at the youth
forum as well. But I've got nine young speakers,
age nine through 18, boys and girls. And just
some of the topics will be robotics and ham radio.
Activations, islands, lighthouses, and ships.
Balloon -based repeater for emergency applications.
Plugging into your valuable club resources. Getting
started with SDR. community services with ham
radio communications, et cetera. And folks, yes,
she said nine to 18 talking about these topics.
And they know what they're doing. They're some
of the brightest stars in the youth of ham radio
right here. And so Hope you can make it and if
you can't, there's some live streaming going
on too of several of the forums. Is that on the
list? That is correct and certainly ICOM is going
to be there live streaming and we have someone
doing video for, it will be put on YouTube. And
oh, this is a good opportunity for your audience
to know that the entire three hour forum is going
to be recorded. And anybody who would like to
request a DVD of the three hour forum to use
it in classrooms, to show role models to your
students. of all of these fabulous young people
getting up and speaking and giving presentations.
It is for free. It is through my RCA Youth Initiatives
program. All you've got to do is contact me or
the person who will be at the forum will give
you his contact information. And for free, it
will be sent to you, the DVD of the entire three
hours. So if you can't make it that's a chance
to do that and also over on YouTube it'll be
there and the live streaming so Get it if you
get a chance at all just just tune into this
or better yet attend and show these kids your
support of their quest of knowledge in ham radio,
so What all will the speakers be receiving this
year without I don't want you to give away any
surprises here, but But what what are some of
the things that they know they'll be getting?
Okay, well the speak we're talking about the
speakers speakers speakers RCA from my youth
activities committee will each be getting a $100
stipend check to go out and spend and have a
good time at the convention. ICOM gives each
of the speakers a handheld radio. MFJ gives them
matching antennas and a utility vest to put the
handy talkie into. They also will be getting
books from AMSAT. that will be going into the
the book bags that ICOM will also give each speaker
with their name and call sign and the RCA Young
Achiever Patch on the book bag. And each young
presenter will also get from ICOM a jacket personalized
with their names and call sign on it. Excellent
stuff. And who's sponsoring? All of this? Okay,
just I'm going to name the really big ones. We
have RCA, ICOM, Kenwood, MFJ, QCWA, who sponsors
the Young Ham Lends a Ham contest, which I would
like to say a word about. AMSAT, Kermis Associates,
Charles Kermis is on my Youth Activities Committee
and he is donating the stipend checks for each
presenter this year and ARRL as well. And the
K4 AMG Amateur Radio Club is supplying a special
30th year Youth Forum banner for us. Alright,
so thanks to all those people for helping out
with with all of that and all kinds of prizes
available both for the young people in attendance
as well as the young speakers and as well as
the OMS and YL's out there that are not as young.
Is that a good way to put it? Well, the young
ham lends a hand I have a surprise let's talk
about I have a surprise every year We run the
young ham lends a hand Contest anybody can recommend
anybody they just have to send their recommendation
to me anytime before April 1st and Tell me why
you think a young Ham, licensed person, deserves
to get this award. We are looking for someone
who demonstrates one of the basic tenets of amateur
radio, which is giving back, giving service to
the community. It could be in the form of reading
books to elderly people. It could be helping
sponsor community events. It could be working
with military personnel. It could be anything
creative in the way of giving back. It could
be doing ham classes for other young people.
And Neil, I am just so happy to tell you that
every year the nominees just keep getting more
and more impressive. And we choose the winner
and that person gets that the winner gets announced
at the youth forum usually. And they get a $100
stipend check. And the surprise that I have for
you is I am going to announce right here on your
show this time that the winner is Ryan Cutshaw,
KD9DAB, a youngster whom you recommended. Wow.
Now I did not expect you to announce that tonight
because that's always the top secret thing until
the Until the forum. Well, congratulations Ryan
Ryan will be ecstatic to hear that and I am very
glad that he won because he's He's done some
pretty cool things since he's been through our
program and and helped out a lot of different
people in a lot of different ways. So I couldn't
agree more with your selection and thanks for
sharing that with us tonight. That's wonderful.
I told you I had a surprise for you. You did.
And if you'll be good enough to forward his address,
I will write him a letter and send him his prize,
the $100 check. And he certainly was an impressive
candidate. I certainly will. I will get that
to you. So thanks for sharing that with us on
the show tonight. And I knew you said, make sure
you ask about that. So wow. That's great. So
congratulations to Ryan and all these speakers
that are coming. They're just going to have a
wealth of information to share and really looking
forward to. to see in all of them. Well, we're
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I know you've got something else that big surprise
you want to put out there as well. So go ahead
and tell us all about it. Okay. Thank you, Neil.
I am excited to share this with you and your
audience. We've been racking our brains trying
to think what else can we do with that three
hour youth forum for the 30th celebration to
really make an impact and commemorate the 30
years. And we have come up with At the forum,
there is going to be a video presentation. We
went back over the 30 years. Many of the young
speakers stay in touch with me and let me know
what they're doing, what schools they're going
to, what careers they're pursuing. And we went
back. over the 30 year period. And we have produced
a video called Where Are They Now? And I just
gave myself a chill because I've seen the finished
version of it. And it's an amazing thing for
all of us to just be so proud of how showcasing
and featuring these youngsters at a venue like
Dayton at the Youth Forum has influenced and
inspired them to go on pursuing technical careers
and technical colleges to go to and all kinds
of really, really interesting things. We've got
a very special, famous person who will be introducing
on the video, how proud he is of what we've managed
to put together. And it's going to be a rather
exceptional video experience, I think, for all
of us to look at. So I invite everybody to come.
I think it's going to be a very special event,
that youth forum, this year. Yeah, that sounds
great. I'm looking forward to hearing about that.
Well, we have a call on the line, so let's go
to that call right now. Who do we have with us
tonight? Hello? Well, we had a call. Hello? Guess
they gave up. Okay, we'll give us a call back.
It's eight one two net ham one eight one two
six three eight four two six one Give us a call
and we'll get you in here just as soon as we
can Let's see we had something else that oh yes,
I had an email here that came in that we want
to get to So this is from DavidAi6ou and he said
he likely couldn't call because of a time conflict
out in six land, but he read your article in
CQ magazine about your trip to India. And so
he says, from that trip to India, you mentioned
similarities we have as teachers, despite our
cultural differences. What are some of those
similarities and what are some ways we can cross
the cultural and generational gaps here in the
US to better teach amateur radio to youth? And
no, you don't get a full hour to answer that
question. that an hour easily, we could do a
separate forum on those open -ended questions.
But the trip to India was absolutely the trip
of a lifetime. I had been invited to go to Hyderabad,
India, by the NIAR, the National Institute of
Amateur Radio there. That's the group that sponsored
young Tom Jost, who spoke at my youth forum in
2014. And they invited me to come so they could
reciprocate the hospitality and to speak at an
education conference there. And I was just thrilled.
They had 200 people at the conference, teachers.
school administrators, principals, college -age
students. high school students and middle school
students. And they wanted to know how I went
about teaching amateur radio in a middle school
for 30 years to sixth, seventh and eighth graders.
And we shared ideas and it was just, the follow
-up was terrific. We had one high school that
thought, the principal thought it was impossible
to ever have such a program at his school. And
I was there. December, this is now April, and
I was just notified that he now does have it
in his school and it's being supported by the
government there. Well, what we have in common
is, and this is part of what I spoke about there,
all teachers, no matter where you are, all teachers
want to have happy, well -motivated students
in a classroom. The question is how we go about
doing that. And to my mind, teaching ham radio
for the 30 years, tying it into the school curriculum
enabled me to do just that. And it doesn't matter
what country you would be in, they are having
tremendous success there in India with local
support, incorporating amateur radio into their
school system and into their curriculums. What
we do is the main goal that I wanted to accomplish
there was getting young people as well on the
radio worldwide speaking with each other. Yes,
sharing what each one's culture is, what different
histories they have, what's different, what's
unique about each one, but most importantly,
what they all have in common. as young people
involved in ham radio and uh... just about everybody
there from the teaching perspective understood
that that point that i was trying to make it's
the enrichment of how we're all different culturally
But it's what we all have in common as teachers,
as educators and communicating with each other,
I think is the key to solving a lot of things
that we're doing out there. So he can certainly
get in touch with me privately if he wants more
specific details about what happened there in
India. It was, it was an incredible, enriching
experience. Well, David says he's, uh, about
50 but he's only been a ham for a couple of years
and heard you speak out in Torrance, California
a couple of years ago and wants to say thank
you for all your work in teaching our youth and
was glad that you could make that first trip
over to India. 812 Net Ham 1 is the phone number
812 -638 -4261. You can call in and talk with
Carol Perry WB2MGP. We have a few minutes remaining
so you can get in on that and also in on the
dipole and one of your speakers Chris Brault
is listening tonight. So hi Chris and we look
forward to hearing you speak. And Carol, you
want to pitch that a little bit? Well, hi, Chris.
Chris, in fact, a perfect example of a talented,
young, wonderful young man in ham radio was at
my youth forum and hamcation in Orlando in February
and gave a terrific presentation there. And Chris,
as well, is going to be one of the speakers at
the youth forum. Chris is 14 years old. That's
KD8YVJ. And his presentation is going to be getting
started with SDR. Very, very talented young ham.
Yeah, he sure is and his parents Jocelyn and
Kim are great people and Look forward to seeing
him again, and he says thanks for the shout out.
So we got we got you in here Chris so thanks
for for picking him up and we've got Troy Simpson,
W9KVR on here. It says, hi Neil and Carol, nice
job as always. No track meet tonight, so I'm
able to listen in. Troy has a school club over
in Watsika, Illinois. So we're glad you're listening
tonight, Troy. 812 Net Ham 1, we've got time
for one quick call. So if you want to get in
on the list here of people to win the antenna,
why give us a call, 812. Net Ham won just a couple
of minutes remain here. So, uh, it just amazes
me every year at the incredible range of talent
from, from five to 18 that you end up with. And
it's just, just fabulous. Okay. I think we've
got our caller back from earlier, so let's try
this again. Who's this? Hey, this is JD in zero
IRS in Kansas City. Yeah. Thanks for calling
in. What's your, uh, what's your question here
for Carol or comment? Well, my question with
Carol is, and I don't know if this is a, this
has ever come up. Has she ever had a chance to
talk to K1JT Joe Taylor, who is obviously, uh,
as a wrote at JT 65 WSJT software and has done
a lot of work with, uh, weak signal, actually
below the ability to hear. Has she ever had the
chance to talk to him and understand what he
has done for knowing the community, but for amateur
radio? I mean, that would be a great topic for
kids. Carol? Are you speaking about the Joe Taylor
who was the Ham of the Year last year? Yes, I
am, Carol. And I saw you at Lebanon, Missouri
a few years back. Good to hear you. Oh, thank
you. Well, Lebanon, Missouri was one of my favorite
places of all times, because that's where astronaut
Steve Nagel got to spend the weekend going to
high schools with me and the Youth Forum. But
yes, Joe Taylor, in fact, was the banquet speaker
at RCA last year. And we have had a chance to
briefly talk, and I certainly agree with you
that there is one brilliant, wonderful, a brilliant
person and a wonderful man as well. So I have
had that pleasure. Okay, super. Well, I appreciate
it. I'm an EME -er and, you know, I always think
about how amateur radio crosses many past reviews
and... of course, the space program, communications,
etc. So but I appreciate what you continue to
do. And I'm glad to hear you tonight on the show.
Thank you. Glad you called. Yeah, thank you for
calling in. Appreciate it. All right. Well, we're
out of time. Once again, it flies by Carol. It's
been great chatting with you and we'll chat here
a little bit after the after the show. But thanks
for coming on. It was totally my pleasure. Well,
I appreciate you doing it and we'll keep on as
long as you'll have us. Well, that's it. That's
a wrap for this week's edition of HamTalk Live.
Thanks to Carol Perry, WB2MGP and everyone out
there in cyberspace for listening and calling
in and invite you back next Thursday night at
9 p .m. Eastern Time when... The Spurious Emissions
Band will be here to talk about their upcoming
concert at Hamvention. So for a list of all of
our upcoming guests, visit HamTalkLive .com.
So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying
7375, and may the good DX be yours. Thanks for
watching!