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HamTalk Live! HamTalk Live is on the air every
Thursday night, 9 p .m. Eastern Time. Well tonight
our guest is Bryant Rascal KG5 HVO. He's 13 years
old He's an avid CW operator and contest or and
recently won the SA contest for the Dave Coulter
Memorial youth DX adventure He'll be going to
Costa Rica in August on that DX adventure trip
Bryant's been a ham for about two years and found
out about ham radio through the Boy Scouts And
he is the only ham in his family That was his
sole journey into Ham Radio. Bryant's been in
several of the big contests like CQ Worldwide,
Strait Key Night, North American Q So Party,
ARRL DXCW, and CQ Worldwide CW, just to name
a few. And he is a member of ARRL and Yacht,
which is the Young Amateurs Communications Ham
Team, the Jefferson ARC, and the Crescent City
ARG. So we'd like to thank them for their support
of Bryant, and he lives in the greater New Orleans
area. So Bryant, welcome to HamTalk Live tonight.
Thank you, Mr. Neal. It's great to be here. Well,
I was very happy to run into you at Hamvention
because it gave us a chance to chat a little
bit and talk. So I wanted to make sure to get
you on the show and share some of the stories
from Hamvention. But before we get into that,
I've got to introduce a new feature on the show.
And I apologize you won't be able to hear it
because the sound effects and stuff doesn't go
through the skype line here. But we've got a
new feature on the show. I don't know if you
heard the Spurious Admissions Band episode, but
we talked to the Spurious Admissions Band and
I kind of jokingly said, hey, we've got this
idea for a song. And in fact, when I saw you
at Hamvention, you were talking to Ward Silver,
the lead guy in the band. And so he was saying,
yeah, you got to listen to this song that we
did. And it's about... Bow thing and instead
of wild thing, it's it's bow thing So I decided
that we're gonna have a new feature on the show
and every time somebody says the word bow thing
we're gonna play a little clip of The bow thing
song. So so here we go. So if some this is somebody
says bow thing So we're gonna play that whenever
somebody says bow thing so that's just the usual
craziness here on ham talk live so It's kind
of like some of those other shows, you know,
whenever somebody says a word like bow thing
They'll play a little clip of it. So anyway,
so that so we'll throw that in so be aware if
you if you say that word We're gonna play it
again, so anyway, hey, let's get into the the
CW bit now at Contest University Tim Duffy K3LR
was talking about a contact that he had made
with you and kind of gave some of the the history
of that and Thanks to Tim K3LR for providing
some audio of this we're gonna listen to it here
in a minute, but but tell us about About your
contact with with K3LR Well, my contact with
K3LR was very special to me. I was in the CQ
worldwide 2016 CW contest in late November And
the special thing about it was I was using the
hand mic of my Yesu FT900, and it was very challenging
to be able to use the hand mic. I used it in
the form of a straight key, if you could imagine
that, using a push -to -talk key to key the CW.
And I stumbled onto K3LR's frequency and gave
him a call. And it took him a couple tries to
get the call down. Uh, and he eventually, at
least I think he eventually got it. My copying
wasn't so up to date yet, although I could recognize
the K3LR and the 5995 was the exchange. Oh, and
I was, I was able to make the contact and I sent
him a QSL card afterwards, which gave me a new
state, Pennsylvania. And so you're operating
this big CW contest without a key. You're just
using. the button on your microphone Pretty much
people most people think of a microphone for
a phone contest, which is a good generalization
But I figured out how to use the hand mic to
just use as like a straight key since I didn't
have a straight key at the time Nothing was good.
Nothing was gonna stop me from participating
in the CQ worldwide contest. So yeah, and I remember
when we were standing there and Talking to you
and your mom and your mom says, I don't, I don't
get this. What, what's the big deal about using
your microphone as a Morse code key? And so,
you know, like, well, you know, most people don't
actually do it that way. It's that's kind of
a hard way to do it because, you know, it's just
a little bit. Switch and while yes, it does do
the same function That's just not a That's not
one of the easier ways to do it. And so most
people don't don't do it that way. So She was
kind of like, you know, well, you know, what's
the big deal? So that was that was kind of fun
that that was we explained it to her but so So
I'm going to I'm going to mute you here for a
second and we're going to play the audio of this
that K3LR sent me. He was able to get this on
one of the remote SDRs. He was able to find a
copy of this contact. So let's listen to that
now. And you can listen and see how good Brian
is with this hand mic sending the CW. you All
right, so there you've got it. Hey, right, that's
a pretty good job on that hand mic now. It was
very difficult to use it. I'd never heard the
recording until contest university, and I was
blown away, blown away, especially by being able
to hear the side tone, because I didn't have
a side tone to hear basically the da da da da
da. So it was basically all just transmitting
and I had to judge it on the time intervals But
it was a fun contact. That's for sure Yeah, and
and getting K3LR. That's a you know, they don't
get much bigger than that. So Thanks again to
K3LR for for sending that audio along and I was
telling you also dating about you know As hams
we have to improvise and so that this is what
you did you? You took the mic that you had and
and you you know put the tone on as you said
you couldn't even hear You know what you were
really sending and and improvise and made it
so I was telling you about this recording that
I had found on YouTube and it was this guy using
his mic but he didn't use the mic as the the
CW key he just keyed down and used his used his
mouth used his voice as the CW so take a listen
to this this is Mouth Morse on on YouTube I took
a little little clip of it That's another way
to improvise. I'm not sure how legal that would
be, but it didn't sound too bad. You heard it.
What did you think? I thought it was amazing.
I mean, I've never thought about using your voice
to make side tones. And I saw that he had switched
his radio onto upper sideband. So I guess the
science just worked out. And when you're talking
about hams improvising, I met, I met a gentleman
at contest university, uh, that used a piece
of wire as a CW key. And I don't know how he
did it, but he saw it. He just made a pigtail
with some wire and used it as a CW key. And he
said he made three contacts in about three hours.
Well, again, I'm not sure of the legality of
going up or side band and using your mouth, but
it was. pretty funny, whatever. I actually found
that looking for some YouTube recordings of some
Morse code kusos for the kids at school to listen
to and to practice with. And we ran across that
and we just died laughing because it was just
so funny to hear this guy doing that. So as a
result of this and Tim finding out about you
know you're using your your hand mic on this
he and some of the guys uh got together and presented
you with a bencher straight key so that way you
didn't have to do that anymore so tell us a little
bit about that Yes, the people at DX Engineering
generously presented me with a straight key,
and it arrived on Christmas Eve. I had no idea
that it came, she just got a weird email saying
that some products from DX Engineering had been
shipped to our house. I didn't know it at the
time. So when this package arrived, she wrapped
it up and put it under the Christmas tree. And
on Christmas morning, when I opened up, she was
like, this is from the people at DX Engineering.
Look inside. And I was like, wow. Wow. I was
not expecting this. Very generous. Very generous.
So you get your straight key, and so you're doing...
A lot of these contests with it and, and we're
now, I know, you know, did straight key night.
Did you have the straight key, the bencher, uh,
straight key by then, or were you still using
your mic? I was using the straight key on straight
key night. Uh, I made about 10 contacts. Uh,
I had a blast doing it. Uh, I had some very good
rag shoes with hams across the Southeast and,
uh, even one QSO to Arizona on 40 meters. I had
a lot of fun, I'm sure a lot of other people
did. I was just glad to have 10 QSOs in the log.
And my first contact with the straight key was
with KP4JRS in Puerto Rico on 17 meters. So that
was very special. Getting a new band country,
that was a new band country to me, with a new
key. Yeah, well that's pretty cool. And then,
at Contest University, you get surprised again.
Tim calls you up in the front of everybody, about
300 people, and goes through and plays the audio
that you just heard here on the show, and starts
talking about Bryant and presented you with something
pretty special. So why don't you tell everybody
about that? Yes, sir. So when Tim Duffy, Mr.
Duffy called me up to the stage, I was very nervous.
I didn't know what was going on. He played the
recording of the CW contact, and I was holding
up the hand mic so everybody in the room could
see what I was using as a key. And I'm trying
to remember all this. So then he pulls out a
white box, and in the box is a Bagali vertical
type paddle. I'm not sure the exact name of it.
And now he's like, and there's another surprise,
and he gives me this Bagali. I'm like, wow, did
this seriously just happen? I mean, not every
13 -year -old gets to have a Bagali. It was very
special, very special. And there was yet another
surprise to it Yes, and it even been autographed
by mr. Bagali I to TRF And I really appreciate
that that's really special that means a lot to
me Yeah, so not only do you have a Bagali which
I don't even have but an autographed You can
see the pictures of that. We put them up on our
Facebook and Twitter just a few minutes ago and
we'll get them on Instagram a little bit after
the show. You can check those out at HamTalkLive
.com on our social media sites and see the autograph
and the presentation there. You can see his three
keys, which is the hand mic and then the Bencher
street key. and then the Begali. So, you can
get over there and check those out when you get
a chance and see those. What made you interested
in getting on CW as a 13 -year -old? What inspired
you to do that? What got me interested in CW?
Well, I have these little snap circuit kits.
It's an electronics kit, mainly aimed at kids.
And one of the projects was a Morse code oscillator.
And so I made this oscillator in about an afternoon.
And I learned how to call CQ using a Morse code
legend that you can get off of Google. And I
learned how to call CQ. I think it was like CQ,
CQ, D, E, K, G, 5, H, V, O, K. And I started
talking about my project to some of the members
of the Jefferson Amateur Radio Club. And one
of the members said, here, how about you just
borrow this? And it was a iambic paddle with
a side -tone speaker in it. So I started using
this paddle, trying to get the hang of how to
use a paddle, trying to figure out when you squeeze
the two together, it makes da -da -da -da -da.
And I just kept increasing my speed about two
words a minute every day. And so in about a month,
I was, I'm not going to say I was at 60 words
a minute, but I was pretty proficient at around
20 words a minute. And that was some high speed
to me at the time. And so I would call CQ test,
CQTEST, as you'll hear contesters do. Uh, and
so that was, it just basically took off from
there and I got my receiving skills up and I
started having rag shoes with myself. So that's
how I got into CW. That's a great, great way
to practice. That's a great idea. Um, so what's
been your favorite contest to work so far? My
favorite contest to work, I really like working
the CQ Worldwide Contest, because you're allowed
to work domestic stations, unlike ARL DX, where
it's just DX. But I also like how you're allowed
to work, it's a DX -oriented contest, so there's
a lot of DX stations pointing their antennas
at North America, which makes getting DX a little
easier for smaller stations. I also really like
the North American QSO Party, because it's a
more relaxed contest. And with this contest,
you can get worked all states in about one day
if you stick with it. Very cool. Well, I'm glad
that we ran into you at Hamvention and and heard
about all this and You got a chance to to go
on this big trip here in August to Costa Rica
and and just glad to hear that you're interested
in all of this and Keeping with it and making
things work even when you don't have necessarily
all the best equipment, but now you're covered
on the CW keys for sure. Alright, well we're
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on the tweets and the calls and the Skype and
all that, let's talk a little bit about DXCC.
Where are you with DXCC so far and how's that
going for you? Well, DXCC, for me at least, it's
going particularly well for my situation, a very
small station, although on Saturday mornings
the very generous people at the Jefferson Amateur
Radio Club have allowed me to use their equipment.
to get some new entities in. Currently, my account
for DXCC is 83 entities confirmed. I have about
125 total entities. Not all have been confirmed.
I'm using QSL cards for my confirmation method,
so it's not as easy as LOTW. I'm still working
on getting some of those cards back. I don't
even have Italy confirmed yet, so I'm hoping
to get an Italian card soon. I'm using the contest
as a way to get the DXCC at least started. I
think contests are a great way to just score
a lot of new entities in just one weekend. Yeah,
great. Okay. We're going to stop here and see
if our audio is working here. So we've got a
phone call on the line. Are you there? Hello?
hello yeah it sounds like our our audio problem
is still there yeah and they're calling back
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Live. Okay sorry I cut you off there but I wanted
to try to get the call in so yeah DXCC is one
of the things that we're working on at school.
We've got you know like you we've got about 120,
130 countries confirmed or worked, but trying
to get all the confirmations has been a real
challenge. Yes. That's the frustrating thing
is when you work a DXCC and then you see they
only do EQSL. That's the frustrating thing for
me. See, I've gotten a few of the de -expeditions.
There was a de -expedition back in August to
Pitcairn Island, VP6AH. I got that card and so
I was very happy. And then in February, I think
the TX5T de -expedition wrapped up, so I was
able to actually get them on CW and Sideband.
We had a good solar sun spot. during that de
-expedition. So I was able to work them on the
high bands, which was quite a surprise to me
because I don't have very good antennas for the
high bands. So y 'all used the two element step
IR at club. How does it work out? Yeah, oh yeah,
we love that. At school we've got the two element
with the dipole loop and it really, really Makes
a difference we can bust through the pileups
a lot easier and Just it's a great antenna So,
let's see here. We've got some messages Coming
in and looks like Dr. Scott right case your MD
was person that was trying to call so he's over
here on Twitter here and let's see Does Bryant
have advice on how to make contesting more appealing
to young hams How to make contesting appealing
to young hams well out first and foremost I would
say make it fun Don't make it where you have
to sit in the chair for 48 hours You have to
make it fun. There's an article written by a
ham in the New Orleans area and he said that
contesting in kids' eyes was like gaming on the
radio because you have to get certain points
like multipliers. There's running, which I really
like running. So I it's kind of gaming on the
radio but except with gaming There's there's
not that unpredictability of the ionosphere,
which I really like it's just so unpredictable
And we've got a tweet here from Chris Bro, KD8YVJ.
It says he's excited to go to Costa Rica with
you this summer on the Youth DX petition. And
Chris is a cool guy, spent some time with him
and his dad and some of the gang from Voice of
America over Hamvention Weekend, too. And so
it sounds like you guys are going to have a ton
of fun down there. Oh yes, hello Chris, it's
good to hear you at least. Yeah, so I'm looking
forward to going to Costa Rica with Chris and
Austin, WA8CCS. He'll be going with us as well
for the Dave Calter Memorial Youth DX adventure.
We'll be on HF, not sure what bands, maybe we'll
be able to work a little bit at 160 meters, but
not sure yet. We have, it looks like the station
is going to be really nice. We're gonna have
a long periodic, a six meter beam and some very
nice radios to operate. So I'm really looking
forward to it. And I'm sure Chris is too. Yep.
Sounds like a good team going again on that.
And, uh, that's a, that's a pretty cool thing.
I wish, uh, wish I'd been able to go on those
things when I was a kid, that would have been,
that would have been a ton of fun, but, um, You've
actually, I know in reading some of your stuff,
you actually have tried doing the SO2R thing.
So how did you get roped into that and how's
the SO2R thing coming along? Well, I got into
SO2R at one of the big contest stations in the
southeast Louisiana area. The station was KN50.
This was during the ARRLDXCW contest, and he
has two operating positions, and each operating
position has two FT1000Ds. And so that's a basic
SO2R setup, and he runs multi -multi. And we
had one radio on 20, one radio on 10. And so
we could balance between 20 and 10 meters, and
so we would grab multipliers in 10 meters, so
the conditions were not that great from what
I hear. But 20 meters was a great running band,
lots of Europe, very good European conditions.
We had a few islands call us, EA6, which is the
Balearic Islands off of the coast of Spain. I
think we even made a contact to Jersey, which
is... island off of the coast of France and the
English Channel. So it was really fun running
SO2R at KN50, and I'm trying to set it up at
my own station. I'll be using a Yesu FT900 and
a Lincoln DXSR8T, each one radio going into a
vertical and one into a dipole. And SO2R is a
very tricky technique. Uh, cause you have to
balance out to, uh, audio to audio channels if
you use a headphones, but I'm going to try it,
uh, in, I'm going to try doing it in the IARU
contest, which is in July. And I hope it all
goes well. Yeah. It's a challenge to keep up
with one sometimes let alone two, but, uh, at
least you're not going to be doing that with.
your hand mic on CWs. That would be really, really
tough to pull that off with SO2R. So now your
mom got to come with you to all this stuff. She
got to go to that Dayton Hamvention. She got
to go to contest university and all this stuff.
So the big question out there is Are your parents
going to get licensed? Are your parents going
to become hams? I think my mom is leaning towards
getting her license after going to Dayton. She
learned a lot of things. I learned a lot. My
club is putting on a one -day license class and
she may go to the license class. She just received
a few emails today with the study guides and
some other material for the class and so I'm
hoping she decides to go because I think it'll
be great for her to get involved in ham radio
um and my dad too my dad's a pilot in the navy
and so he's very familiar with uh hf communications
and radio technology so i think he may get his
license although i'm not sure yet but i think
my mom is gonna get her license well We're going
to finish up here, but I'll tell you a little
story of mine when I was five and got my license.
My dad and I did it together, but my mom could
not stand to hear us talking in Morse code and
not have a clue what we were saying. And so that
got her into ham radio because she had, she said,
Oh no, I'm not going to get into ham radio. I'm
just going to learn the code so I can know what
you guys are saying. And so. That was her thing
was the code and she got the code and then she
was, Oh, okay. I'll go ahead and take that. You
know, I'll go ahead and take the test. And so
we, we all ended up, uh, doing it, uh, about
the same time. Mom was a year later, so, um,
it all worked out. So maybe ham vision was, was
the push that needed to happen. So. So yeah,
we hope that both of your parents end up becoming
hams and studying for that. But it was an absolute
pleasure to meet you and your mom at Hamvention
and just happened to run into you talking to
Ward Silver and wanted to jump in there. and
say hi since I didn't get a chance to at Contest
University. And thanks so much for coming on
the show and sharing the stories. I hope it's
been fun and it's been a lot of fun to talk about
all this stuff and hope it was fun for our listeners
as well. So thanks a lot for coming on. Thank
you for having me on Mr. Rapp. It was great being
here. I had a lot of fun. All right. Well, That's
Bryant Rascal, KG5HVO, and so you'll hear him
on the air. Give him a call and hopefully you
can give him a call from Costa Rica coming up
in August along with Chris and a bunch of those
guys down there. So looking forward to that.
Well, that is a wrap. For this week's ham talk
live thanks to my guest Bryant rascal kg5 HVO
and everyone out there in cyberspace for listening
and For those of you tweeting in again. Sorry
about the phone line problems. We'll try to get
those Solved unless Skype throws us another curveball
next week at 9 p .m. Eastern time and Speaking
of hamvention Michael Coulter w8 ci is going
to be here to talk about what happened at Hamvention
and what changes they're going to be making so
if you have any questions or anything that you
want to follow up on with Hamvention why jump
in here next week and we'll have the official
spokesperson of the Dayton Hamvention here to
talk about the adjustments that they're going
to make and how things went this year. So don't
miss out on that. And also don't forget, Sean
Kutzko, KX9X, will be here the following week,
I believe it is. That's the Thursday before field
day for your field day questions. And he spent
many years as the contest branch manager at ARRL.
He's now in public relations. But he's going
to be around to answer your field day rules questions
and talk about field day. So if you have any
last -minute questions or concerns about field
day, be sure to give Sean a call here on the
show the Thursday before field day at our regular
time. And for a list of all of our upcoming guests,
you can find those at HamTalkLive .com. So for
now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7 -3,
7 -5, and may the good DX be yours. Thanks for
watching!