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It's time for HamTalk Live. It's episode number

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71. The national Boy Scout Jamboree and also

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Jamboree on the air and on the internet with

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Jim Wilson. K5ND recorded live on Thursday, June

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29th, 2017. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG.

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Live tonight. We are joined by Jim Wilson, K5ND,

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on HamTalkLive .com. Jim Wilson, K5ND is retired

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from the Boy Scouts of America headquarters where

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he spent 21 years in publishing and communications.

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He is now a freelance writer and continues to

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volunteer as chairman of the National Radio Scouting

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Committee, National Jamboree on the Air organizer,

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and a member of World Jota and Jodi team. He

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is the president of the K2BSA Amateur Radio Association.

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You can check out their website at k2bsa .net

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and over 172 ,000 scouts have earned the radio

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merit badge over the years and formally exposed

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to amateur radio. So Jim, welcome back to HamTalk

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Live. Well, thank you very much, Neil. It's good

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to be back here and I appreciate you hosting

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us and the opportunity to talk about radio scouting.

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Yeah, and we're going to talk about several things,

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but the one that we kind of wanted to hit right

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away because it's coming up here in just a couple

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of weeks, is the National Scout Jamboree. Now

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this isn't Jota, this isn't Jamboree on the air,

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this is the real Jamboree, but you're gonna be

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on the air at the Jamboree, so tell us all about

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what's coming up at the National Boy Scout Jamboree.

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Okay, well... I usually start at the top of the

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funnel and work my way down, but the national

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jamboree happens every four years. In 2013 was

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the first jamboree at the summit, Bechtel Scout

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Reserve, in West Virginia. And actually, it was

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the first event there in West Virginia. It's

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a new property for the Boy Scouts. It's 10 ,600

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acres nestled in the mountains of West Virginia,

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adjoining the new river, National River. Quite

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frankly, there's everything you could possibly

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want to do in high adventure at this facility,

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from mountain biking to rock climbing to whitewater

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rafting, shooting sports, archery, skateboarding,

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you name it, there are world class facilities

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there. And frankly, there's world class facilities

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there for amateur radio as well. ICOM America

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is a big sponsor of amateur radio and scouting.

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They've installed three repeaters there. They're

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active year round for all the scouting events

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there. So they'll be on the air during during

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Jamboree. Our operation is about just over 40

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,000 staff members have signed up to work for

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two weeks at the Jamboree putting amateur radio

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on the air. Now we'll be joined by a total of

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about 9 ,000 staff members running the Jamboree

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for 30 to 35 ,000 scouts that will be participating.

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The Jamboree runs from the 19th through the 28th.

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I'll be getting there on the 15th. Most of our

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staff members will be arriving on the 15th and

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the 16th. We'll be setting up, so we'll be beyond

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the air. probably on the 16th, 17th, 18th doing

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some testing, 19th or yes, the 19th that the

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scouts arrive. And so we'll be actively engaged

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running demonstrations for the scouts. We'll

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be operating a demonstration station. We'll be

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running radio merit badge training and will have

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amateur radio direction finding course as well.

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Now the. For the operation itself, there are

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will be the. The area that we're located in is

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called the Summit Center and that's the area

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of the Jamboree that's open to all scouts as

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well as all guests and they've set it up kind

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of nice so guests and visitors can come in and

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participate in certain elements of the Jamboree.

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but not the really high adventure stuff that

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the Scouts have paid big money and made big trips

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to get there. But the Summit Center is only open

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from 8 a .m. to 5 p .m. And so those are the

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hours of our station, although we also hope to

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get on the air in the evening just to hand out

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some QSOs. We're going to do that by remote control

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from our staff camp, and we'll see how that goes.

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We expect to have run 3 ,000 scouts through our

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demonstration station. That's what we did in

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2013. Maybe we'll beat that number in 2017. But

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we need other people on the, we need other hams.

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on the other side of that conversation, and Scouts.

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An example of one of the stations that's going

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to be on the air during the Jamboree is station

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K5K operating from the Philmont Scout Ranch in

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New Mexico. They're going to be active right

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from the Tooth of Time traders there at Philmont,

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getting on the air, working the Jamboree station,

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and other people that happened to be on the air

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at that time. That's our big call to amateur

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radio operators is get on the air. Talk to scouts,

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share with them some of your experiences in scouting

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and amateur radio, but help us out. We think

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we're going to be challenged because of the propagation,

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but we'll see. 20 meters should be good, 40 meters

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too probably, 17 meters mostly will be on phone.

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I'll also mention that we have a nightly net

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on EchoLink. We're going to be using the Jambo

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conference node, J -A -M -B -O, and that net

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is at 7 .30 p .m. Eastern Time during the Jamboree.

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So we'll be taking calls into the net from those

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that are at the Jamboree, as well as via Echolink

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from around the world, actually. All right, so

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again, the dates on that, July 19th through the

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28th is the active time. We'll be setting up

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a couple of days prior to that. Uh, but July

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19th and 28th, we need people on the air, uh,

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between eight and five Eastern time, uh, to talk

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to scouts. And then, uh, it'll be on the air

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some in the evenings as the remote control goes

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and then, um, echo link on Jambo. So, um, 7 30

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PM Eastern there. So just, uh, another rundown

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of all of that. And we'll kind of recap that

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again at the end in case you missed it. And then

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you've got some scout camps on the air this summer

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as well. Well we do and I would encourage those

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of you that are putting scout camps on the air

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to register your station at the program that

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we have called Scout Camps on the Air. It's at

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scota .us SCOTA .US. And so there's a lot of

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scout camps that are on the air. We also authorize

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the K2BSA portable stroke five or stroke six

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also to use the call sign. There's a number of

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those that are active. And then I'll mention

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that this summer there are national jamborees

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in Norway, Canada, Luxembourg and Germany. as

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well as the World Scout Moot that is operating

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in Iceland right after, I think maybe right after

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the U .S. National Jamboree closes down. Okay,

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very good and you're going to have frequencies

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available on Facebook and Twitter and the website

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so why don't you give that information also.

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Go to K2BSA slash. Jamboree -Live. Jamboree -Live.

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On there, we've listed all the scouting frequencies,

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the Echolink conference nodes, the Echolink repeater

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nodes, and we're also on D -Star. We have a D

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-Star repeater there and we'll be connecting

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that to Reflector 033A. So all on k2bsa .net

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slash jamboree -live. And then as Neil said,

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we're going to be putting up. in real time on

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social media, Twitter, K2BSA scouting Twitter,

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and the K2BSA Facebook page will be posting frequencies

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as we speak, live at the time. So that's a good

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way to keep up with it. There's also the spotting

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networks that should be helpful there too. All

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right, very good. So we need you guys and gals

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to get on the air and and talk to these scouts

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and the Staff that's trying to set things up.

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So get on the air track them down and and give

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them some contacts here in Just a couple of weeks

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So that's the the big news here That's coming

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up right away, but I know we've got a couple

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of other things we want to talk about there's

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been some changes to the radio merit badge and

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So let's talk about the radio merit badge for

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just a minute Yeah, I'll mention that a radio

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merit badge over the years has grown quite a

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bit in the number of scouts that earn it back

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in the the Eight back in the 50s through the

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80s. It was a thousand a year starting in the

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90s. It started to climb coincidentally when

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the Morris code requirement dropped away and

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now it's in the six to seven thousand a year

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range that are in In January of this year, we

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announced new requirements. We added a new option

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for amateur radio direction finding or fox hunting.

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Now, there are four options. One of those options

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is amateur radio. Another one is broadcast radio.

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A third one is short wave listening, medium wave

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listening. And then we've added this fourth one

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of amateur radio direction finding, which is

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a perfect match with scouting. It gets some outdoors,

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finding hidden transmitters, combining orienteering

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with amateur radio. But we've made quite a few

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revisions to bring this up to date as well. We're

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talking about cellular telephones. Those are

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another radio that you have in your pocket. and

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how that applies to help make better connections

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with scouts. But we also dropped some circuit

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requirements, schematic symbols, and components.

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They're already covered in electricity and electronics

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merit badges. So this would allow us to focus

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on expanded radio modulation as just one example.

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New things in Radio Merit Badge. We've also created

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some incredible slide decks for our Radio Merit

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Badge program at the Jamboree. They have a lot

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of animations. They're very eye -catching. They

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teach the Radio Merit Badge in less than four

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hours. And so those are online as well, ready

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for those who are putting on Radio Merit Badge

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workshops back at their councils. So that's what's

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happening with Radio Merit Badge, Neil. Okay

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and there you heard it. You don't have to reinvent

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the wheel. The PowerPoint slides are there for

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you to download and they're very well done and

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ready to go. So you don't have to reinvent the

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wheel when you're teaching the radio merit badge

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so that's some good stuff and then the thing

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that i think most hams are familiar with uh at

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least the most is uh jamboree on the air so let's

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mention that uh that's a little ways off yet

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but it'll be here before we know it Well, it's

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getting closer all the time and we recommend

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you start planning of course in January and You

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work at this time to make sure that a scouting

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event Maybe a camp out or a camperee is lined

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up with Jambri on the air weekend Which is always

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the third weekend in October this year. It's

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the 20th the 21st and the 22nd of October This

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is the 60th anniversary of the largest scouting

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event in the world with over a million participants

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across 150 different countries. So check in with

00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.920
your local club, see what's happening, connect

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with a scout unit, see if you can help out. And

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I'll mention that in 2016, interest, I saw it

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explode inside scouting for Jambri on the Air.

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And there's a big reason for this. There's a

00:19:42.940 --> 00:19:46.180
participation requirement for the Webelow's Arrow

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of Light Award. Check that requirement off by

00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:54.259
participating in Jambri on the Air or Jambri

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on the Internet. So parents and unit leaders

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were really out in force during 2016, looking

00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:06.039
for a way to get involved in this. So things

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are coming together very nicely. Okay, so we'll

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look for that and of course I always remember

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it because it's the weekend either before or

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after the fall school club roundup so I've been

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on the air all week and then then the scouts

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get on so That's a great week there to get on

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and encourage the youth to get involved in Ham

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Radio. We're going to come back here in just

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a moment and talk some more with Jim and we're

00:20:39.349 --> 00:20:42.849
going to take your calls live. So if you have

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a question, get that ready to go and we'll open

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up the phone lines and the Skype lines here in

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just a moment. Take your calls with Jim Wilson

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00:22:41.509 --> 00:22:44.910
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00:23:24.140 --> 00:23:30.779
about the Boy Scouts and Ham Radio. Jim, while

00:23:30.779 --> 00:23:33.740
we're waiting on those calls to roll in here,

00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:37.519
let's talk a little bit about one of our favorite

00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:40.680
topics on the show, which is the Dayton Hamvention.

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You guys had a nice set up at Hamvention again,

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and tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, it

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was really a great experience. Just from the...

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From the perspective of the Hamvention, let me

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mention that in years past, every time the Hamvention

00:24:02.630 --> 00:24:05.569
would be over, there would be much wringing of

00:24:05.569 --> 00:24:08.289
hands as to whether Hera Arena would close or

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not. I was generally myself personally praying

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that it would close. But now the conversation

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is, how are we going to improve it? add a new

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building, add some more tents, better drainage,

00:24:24.349 --> 00:24:26.789
all kinds of things. So the conversation is just

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completely flipped. So I'm delighted to see this.

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But I'll share, you know, we had a good booth

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there. In years past, the ARRL has provided us

00:24:38.589 --> 00:24:42.609
space in their exhibit for amateur radio and

00:24:42.609 --> 00:24:45.950
scouting in the K -2 BSA operation. We really

00:24:45.950 --> 00:24:48.670
appreciated that. As they moved into the new

00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:51.920
facilities, they found themselves without the

00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.140
space to host us, but they were, we all together

00:24:56.140 --> 00:24:59.559
worked with the Dayton Amateur Radio Association.

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We had a booth right next to the, the ARRL exhibit.

00:25:04.180 --> 00:25:08.200
It went. very, very well. ICOM America stepped

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up and sponsored our booth and helped us with

00:25:13.019 --> 00:25:17.839
that. So we had a great display. Staff members

00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:22.839
from the Jamboree and elsewhere volunteered to

00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:25.200
staff the booth. So we had excellent coverage.

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We had a lot of good traffic. It was it was it

00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.940
was great. I really enjoyed how it all worked

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out Yeah, we've had had Michael Coulter on the

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show and talking about some of the the improvements

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that are forthcoming and We'll see if that new

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building ends up being a reality and it's told

00:25:50.619 --> 00:25:53.359
us a lot of those things So we're looking for

00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:57.380
for great things in Hamventions to come well

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again the phone number if you want to join in

00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:04.180
on the conversation is eight one two six three

00:26:04.180 --> 00:26:08.299
eight four two six one that's eight one two net

00:26:08.299 --> 00:26:14.440
ham one and You can also Skype us or tweet us

00:26:15.210 --> 00:26:19.269
If you have a question about the National Jamboree

00:26:19.269 --> 00:26:22.589
or Jamboree on the Air, Radio Merit Badge teaching

00:26:22.589 --> 00:26:25.930
that or any of these other things. And it looks

00:26:25.930 --> 00:26:32.410
like here Jim, you've got some CW operators involved

00:26:32.410 --> 00:26:36.990
in Boy Scouts as well. Back in the day and as

00:26:36.990 --> 00:26:39.750
I always say back in the day when I had to walk

00:26:39.750 --> 00:26:43.190
to school uphill both ways Through ten feet of

00:26:43.190 --> 00:26:45.890
snow without any shoes in the middle of a sharknado

00:26:45.890 --> 00:26:49.609
We went to school at the same place. Yes, we

00:26:49.609 --> 00:26:55.730
did When when I did my radio bear badge we had

00:26:55.730 --> 00:27:01.190
to learn code and so You know, you said that's

00:27:01.190 --> 00:27:04.390
been dropped, but you still have some CW activity.

00:27:04.549 --> 00:27:09.230
So tell us about the CW Ops Award. Well, I'll

00:27:09.230 --> 00:27:13.390
actually mention too, way back in the day, to

00:27:13.390 --> 00:27:17.250
get your first class badge in scouting required

00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:23.210
you to learn Morris Code. And interestingly enough,

00:27:24.230 --> 00:27:27.640
but so, For a first class badge, you need to

00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:31.259
learn Morris code. Radio merit badge, I think

00:27:31.259 --> 00:27:35.619
at one point it was 10 words a minute and it

00:27:35.619 --> 00:27:37.660
might have dropped down to five words per minute

00:27:37.660 --> 00:27:40.460
and then in the 90s they dropped it entirely.

00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.660
I'll mention a funny story. The CW Ops, we'll

00:27:46.660 --> 00:27:49.660
get to that here pretty quick, provided an award

00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:52.440
to the Boy Scouts of America, and I attended

00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:57.019
their dinner at Hamvention, and I sat next to

00:27:57.019 --> 00:28:01.900
a guy there, a member of the CW Operators Club,

00:28:02.099 --> 00:28:05.960
so he's a very high -speed CW operator. And he

00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.680
said he was in scouting and he never earned his

00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.460
first -class badge because he couldn't do the

00:28:11.460 --> 00:28:17.480
Morris Code. So some things change, some things

00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:21.200
change over time. But yeah, the Boy Scouts of

00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.779
America was honored by the CW Operators Club

00:28:25.779 --> 00:28:30.740
with their award for advancing the art of communicating

00:28:30.740 --> 00:28:35.500
with Morris Code. And this is the second year

00:28:35.500 --> 00:28:39.920
that they've made these awards. Some pretty distinguished

00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.779
people have earned them in last year. The fellow

00:28:43.779 --> 00:28:48.500
that wrote the art of the Zen of radio telegraphy

00:28:48.500 --> 00:28:53.400
and some of the founders of CWOPS. So Boy Scouts

00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.960
was very, very pleased to get that. And it was

00:28:55.960 --> 00:29:00.039
chiefly in recognition of the Morris Code interpreter

00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.900
strip. And for those in the audience who aren't

00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:07.259
familiar with this, it was introduced about four

00:29:07.259 --> 00:29:09.980
years ago, three or four years ago by the Boy

00:29:09.980 --> 00:29:13.480
Scouts. They have interpreter strips that go,

00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:17.720
they're sewn on the uniform above the right pocket.

00:29:20.210 --> 00:29:24.930
Typically, they say Espanol or they'll be written

00:29:24.930 --> 00:29:31.789
in Arabic or Francais. Scout can see that and

00:29:31.789 --> 00:29:34.589
recognize that here's somebody that can translate

00:29:34.589 --> 00:29:37.150
for them, that can talk to them in their native

00:29:37.150 --> 00:29:41.809
language. So they introduced one in Morris code

00:29:41.809 --> 00:29:45.869
and it spells out in dots and dashes the word

00:29:45.869 --> 00:29:52.079
Morris. now the backstory on that is The radio

00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.279
scouting committee the national radio scouting

00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.299
committee was searching out a way to get recognition

00:29:57.299 --> 00:30:00.519
on the uniform a patch because that's what works

00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:04.579
in Boy Scouts for amateur radio and we we our

00:30:04.579 --> 00:30:07.579
proposal to the awards and insignia committee

00:30:07.579 --> 00:30:10.839
was why don't you just say ham radio on it and

00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:13.539
and this will recognize the skill set that it

00:30:13.539 --> 00:30:17.390
evolved and they after quite a few weeks, if

00:30:17.390 --> 00:30:20.150
not months, of deliberation came back to us with

00:30:20.150 --> 00:30:25.089
a memo that said, well, we looked at this and

00:30:25.089 --> 00:30:28.829
we realized that ham radio really isn't a language.

00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.420
And then we said, well, wait a minute. What about

00:30:31.420 --> 00:30:33.420
Morris code? And we went back and looked at your

00:30:33.420 --> 00:30:36.160
proposal and no, you didn't say anything about

00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.740
Morris code. So no, we can't approve this. Well,

00:30:40.259 --> 00:30:43.880
30 minutes later, we had a proposal in front

00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:47.460
of them for the Morris code interpreter strip.

00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:50.720
And about an hour later, they had it approved.

00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.960
But and later I met. up in person. Actually,

00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:01.660
he's one of the major Jamboree organizers. I

00:31:01.660 --> 00:31:06.880
met up with Russell Smart in person, who was

00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.380
on that committee, and he said, well, Jim, I

00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:16.819
guess we telegraphed our intentions to you. So,

00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:24.700
yeah. Several years later, the CW Operators Club

00:31:24.700 --> 00:31:28.259
recognized Boy Scouts for keeping Morris Code

00:31:28.259 --> 00:31:31.319
alive and well. And it is a pretty popular patch

00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:35.400
for both leaders and the scouts. They can show

00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:37.700
that you've got five words per minute, and you

00:31:37.700 --> 00:31:41.319
can sew the patch on your uniform. Very cool.

00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:46.339
Well, that's... Amazing and that keeps on going

00:31:46.339 --> 00:31:51.500
so Good job. I'll get that proposal to them in

00:31:51.500 --> 00:31:54.559
quick order that I didn't have a chance to to

00:31:54.559 --> 00:32:00.660
say no, so I Will mention as well there was a

00:32:00.660 --> 00:32:04.940
the we did end up with yet another patch It's

00:32:04.940 --> 00:32:08.880
called the amateur radio operator rating strip

00:32:09.339 --> 00:32:12.940
And it says amateur radio operator. And it goes

00:32:12.940 --> 00:32:15.519
on. I've forgotten which sleeve of the uniform,

00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:20.099
but it goes back to there were rating strips

00:32:20.099 --> 00:32:24.740
for scouts in the 1940s. Earned several merit

00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:28.200
badges and you could have the the radio man rating

00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.619
strip. And there were several others. And so.

00:32:31.980 --> 00:32:35.400
They liked our proposal and we got it approved

00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:38.599
and so it's an official badge for Boy Scouts

00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:41.180
of America. So we eventually got that one approved

00:32:41.180 --> 00:32:48.500
as well. Very good. 812 -638 -4261 is the telephone

00:32:48.500 --> 00:32:53.140
number that spells Net Ham 1. 812 -Net Ham 1

00:32:53.140 --> 00:32:57.799
or Skype us or tweet us. And join in the conversation

00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.799
here with Jim Wilson, K5ND, the voice of the

00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:09.890
K2BSA Amateur Radio Association. I know there's

00:33:09.890 --> 00:33:14.490
some other upcoming radio scouting activations,

00:33:15.430 --> 00:33:19.109
and over at my other volunteer job, over at Amateur

00:33:19.109 --> 00:33:23.069
Radio Newsline, we have Mr. Bill Stearns in E4RD,

00:33:23.089 --> 00:33:28.130
which I still love that call sign. And he gets

00:33:28.130 --> 00:33:32.910
on there almost every week and kind of runs down.

00:33:33.210 --> 00:33:36.410
what radio scouting events are coming up in the

00:33:36.410 --> 00:33:39.309
next few weeks. So that's another way that you

00:33:39.309 --> 00:33:44.089
can find out about some of these scouting events

00:33:44.089 --> 00:33:48.589
on the air is listen over on amateur radio newsline.

00:33:49.329 --> 00:33:52.329
But can you give us a few that are coming up

00:33:52.329 --> 00:33:55.490
in addition to the big ones here that we've talked

00:33:55.490 --> 00:34:00.000
about? Yeah, let me I've got to pull that we

00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.420
actually on the K2 BSA website we have a calendar

00:34:04.420 --> 00:34:09.139
of the We have an application process if somebody

00:34:09.139 --> 00:34:13.900
wants to use the K2 BSA call site for a scouting

00:34:13.900 --> 00:34:20.880
event and we're limited of course to the we authorize

00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.559
K2BSA slash four in the four call sign area,

00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.219
for example, so there can only be one at a time

00:34:27.219 --> 00:34:33.719
on any particular day. But let's see. It is July

00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:38.880
29th. We've got K2BSA slash eight at Rock Creek,

00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.400
Ohio at the Beaumont summer camp. They're on

00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:46.679
the air. right now. Tomorrow K2BSA stroke four.

00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:50.500
It's the Order of the Arrow Friday Net from Camp

00:34:50.500 --> 00:34:55.559
Barstow in Batesburg, South Carolina. And then

00:34:55.559 --> 00:35:02.360
let's see K2BSA stroke zero at Camp Geiger in

00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.019
St. Joseph, Missouri starts on Monday and is

00:35:06.019 --> 00:35:09.349
operating through the week through Well, wait

00:35:09.349 --> 00:35:12.389
through two weeks, two and a half weeks to the

00:35:12.389 --> 00:35:18.070
14th of July. K2BSA stroke eight, trail to eagle

00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:22.809
in Matamora, Michigan is on the air Monday, Tuesday

00:35:22.809 --> 00:35:28.050
and Wednesday of next week, 26th, 27th, 28th.

00:35:28.349 --> 00:35:34.190
And then we've got, let's see here. I should

00:35:34.190 --> 00:35:37.110
have mentioned this the USA radio scouting net

00:35:37.110 --> 00:35:41.550
is the second Thursday of every month and It's

00:35:41.550 --> 00:35:44.710
at 9 p .m.. Central time. It's on the next one

00:35:44.710 --> 00:35:50.210
is the 13th of July. It's on echo link the Jota

00:35:50.210 --> 00:35:55.969
365 conference note Jota -365 conference node

00:35:57.309 --> 00:36:00.170
And then, of course, the end of July, we've got

00:36:00.170 --> 00:36:05.090
the K2BSA National Scout Jamboree in West Virginia.

00:36:05.989 --> 00:36:09.909
All right. So k2bsa .net for those. And again,

00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:13.550
amateur radio news line. You can listen for Bill

00:36:13.550 --> 00:36:18.710
over there and check those out. So again, the

00:36:18.710 --> 00:36:23.440
phone number 812. Six three eight four two six

00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.280
one if you want to join in we have just a few

00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:30.440
minutes left One other thing we can talk about

00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.019
here. Well, we see if we have have any questions

00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:38.280
out there is People that are teaching the radio

00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:41.619
merit badge now I've gone through this and you

00:36:41.619 --> 00:36:45.139
know our club here in town has done that several

00:36:45.139 --> 00:36:50.559
times and and so It's always nice to have some

00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:56.480
ideas. And we mentioned a while ago that those

00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:00.179
slide decks are available on the website, so

00:37:00.179 --> 00:37:03.179
you can just pull those down. But what are some

00:37:03.179 --> 00:37:07.280
tips that you have for those people who are trying

00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:14.880
to teach the Radio Merit badge? OK, well, I've

00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:22.039
not taught it. My suggestion for Radio Merit

00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:26.059
Badge or Jamboree on the Air or however you want

00:37:26.059 --> 00:37:30.300
to engage scouts with amateur radio is to go

00:37:30.300 --> 00:37:35.000
where the scouts are. So Radio Merit Badge, line

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.800
up with a merit badge university that might be

00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.579
happening in your... Local Scout Council, they're

00:37:42.579 --> 00:37:46.739
always eager to add more merit badges to those

00:37:46.739 --> 00:37:50.739
gatherings The Scout shows is there are a number

00:37:50.739 --> 00:37:55.619
another way to do that Mentioned before Jambri

00:37:55.619 --> 00:37:58.159
on the air, you know what weekend that is. It's

00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.960
the third weekend in October work with a scout

00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.880
unit, that's the easiest way to work with it,

00:38:03.980 --> 00:38:07.699
or the next level up is a district, or there's

00:38:07.699 --> 00:38:13.440
the council. But line up a camp out or a camperee

00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.360
during that weekend, and that way you've got

00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:20.889
a built -in activity for the scouts. I talked,

00:38:22.090 --> 00:38:26.449
field day was an opportunity to engage scouts,

00:38:26.610 --> 00:38:29.269
to invite them out to your field day activation.

00:38:30.510 --> 00:38:34.050
I've heard some were successful with that, but

00:38:34.050 --> 00:38:37.849
I heard quite a few were not. And it's the age

00:38:37.849 --> 00:38:41.670
-old problem of trying to get scouts to go to

00:38:41.670 --> 00:38:45.929
your event. Scouts are busy. Man, when I check

00:38:45.929 --> 00:38:49.289
in with my grandkids, They've got back -to -back

00:38:49.289 --> 00:38:52.750
events going on all weekend long, so it's really

00:38:52.750 --> 00:38:58.150
hard for them to check in anywhere. That's somewhat

00:38:58.150 --> 00:39:01.630
of a random activity. If they're already at a

00:39:01.630 --> 00:39:06.869
camperee, you're golden. So, while that's, I've

00:39:06.869 --> 00:39:09.210
taken your question about Radio Maribach and

00:39:09.210 --> 00:39:15.320
morphed it, but. But that's, I think, a timeless

00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:18.559
message. Go where the Scouts are so that you

00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.800
can be an activity where they're at. Summer camp,

00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.800
many of these summer camps that I mentioned,

00:39:26.699 --> 00:39:29.300
they're there because they're putting on radio

00:39:29.300 --> 00:39:33.199
merit badge during the summer camp. So that's

00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:35.059
where the Scouts are. They're working on all

00:39:35.059 --> 00:39:37.599
kinds of merit badges, canoeing and swimming

00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.460
and stopping by and checking out. amateur radio

00:39:41.460 --> 00:39:44.599
as well. That's a great way to do it. One of

00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:49.360
the things that I've found in teaching, which

00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.980
I teach outside of the scouting community, I

00:39:51.980 --> 00:39:56.159
do it at the high school, is a captive audience

00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:02.920
always helps. That's a great tip. How do you

00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.320
get kids to show up? Well, you offer it when

00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:09.719
they're already there. And that's a big thing

00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.320
because these kids are busy. They really do.

00:40:14.570 --> 00:40:18.170
do a lot of stuff. In fact, sometimes too much.

00:40:18.489 --> 00:40:22.550
And so if you can offer that at a time and location

00:40:22.550 --> 00:40:25.289
where they're already there, why that makes it

00:40:25.289 --> 00:40:29.170
a whole lot easier for them. So well, Jim, thanks

00:40:29.170 --> 00:40:32.710
so much for coming on. I want to finish up here.

00:40:33.570 --> 00:40:37.519
Just reminding everyone with some information

00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:42.619
here. In fact, K3FHP Dave over on QRZ .com said,

00:40:43.139 --> 00:40:45.360
just give me the dates and times and frequencies.

00:40:45.860 --> 00:40:50.460
So let's go over where somebody like Dave could

00:40:50.460 --> 00:40:54.639
find just dates and times and frequencies. So

00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:59.019
remind everyone about the websites and what's

00:40:59.019 --> 00:41:02.619
available there and the social media sites one

00:41:02.619 --> 00:41:09.969
last time. You bet, it's k2bsa .net slash jamboree

00:41:09.969 --> 00:41:14.170
-live. And we've listed all of the frequencies.

00:41:14.570 --> 00:41:17.489
There are actually frequencies, HF frequencies,

00:41:17.989 --> 00:41:21.690
that are designated scouting frequencies. And

00:41:21.690 --> 00:41:26.429
so they're used around the world, promoted primarily

00:41:26.429 --> 00:41:28.849
by the World Organization of the Scout Movement.

00:41:29.329 --> 00:41:34.150
We also list the EchoLink nodes. for the demonstration

00:41:34.150 --> 00:41:37.530
station, for the repeaters that are there, the

00:41:37.530 --> 00:41:41.110
D -Star reflectors and the D -Star repeater.

00:41:42.449 --> 00:41:48.909
So it's all there at k2bsa .net slash jamboree

00:41:48.909 --> 00:41:54.010
live and then monitor social media, k2bsa on

00:41:54.010 --> 00:41:59.869
Facebook and k2bsa underscore scouting on Twitter.

00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.280
posting live when we are available and what frequencies

00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:12.059
that we're on. I'll also mention k2bsa .net has

00:42:12.059 --> 00:42:15.719
a Jambri on the Air email newsletter that goes

00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:18.340
out from time to time more frequently as we get

00:42:18.340 --> 00:42:21.519
closer to Jambri on the Air. So subscribe to

00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:26.039
that and on every page in the upper right hand

00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.940
corner there's a subscription form and fill in

00:42:28.940 --> 00:42:31.260
your email address and your name and your call

00:42:31.260 --> 00:42:34.639
sign and you'll get on the list. We have about

00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:38.599
almost 1700 people on that list right now and

00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:44.059
the issue just went out today. The other website

00:42:44.059 --> 00:42:50.519
to look at for activities is JodaJody .info J

00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:55.099
O T A J O T I dot info. It's the world scouting's

00:42:55.099 --> 00:42:57.840
website for jamboree on the air, jamboree on

00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.840
the internet. And don't neglect a jamboree on

00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:03.179
the internet for some of your activities this

00:43:03.179 --> 00:43:06.980
October. Propagation isn't our friend these days.

00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.380
And there's a lot of things that you can do on

00:43:09.380 --> 00:43:14.619
social media, Skype, YouTube, et cetera, engaging

00:43:14.619 --> 00:43:18.960
scouts and keeping them active for a really fun

00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:23.780
weekend. So, yeah, that's, oh, and Scout Camps

00:43:23.780 --> 00:43:28.880
on the Air, scota .us, Scout Camps on the Air,

00:43:29.099 --> 00:43:32.900
great way to find active events, what frequencies

00:43:32.900 --> 00:43:35.980
they're on, et cetera, and to register your own

00:43:35.980 --> 00:43:40.480
so other people will be aware. All right, Jim.

00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:43.639
Thank you so much for all that great information

00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:47.400
and hopefully we can get some people on the air

00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:51.539
to talk to the scouts at that National Jamboree

00:43:51.539 --> 00:43:54.079
coming up here in a couple of weeks as well as

00:43:54.329 --> 00:43:59.110
the Joda and Jodi. So that is a wrap for this

00:43:59.110 --> 00:44:02.409
week's edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks to Jim

00:44:02.409 --> 00:44:06.070
Wilson, K5ND, and everybody out there in cyberspace

00:44:06.070 --> 00:44:10.210
for listening and invite you back next Thursday

00:44:10.210 --> 00:44:14.309
night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. And if you want

00:44:14.309 --> 00:44:16.630
to know who's coming up on the show, you can

00:44:16.630 --> 00:44:20.050
go to HamTalkLive .com. There's a link there

00:44:20.050 --> 00:44:23.530
that says... schedule and you click on that and

00:44:23.530 --> 00:44:26.710
it will give you the latest schedule of upcoming

00:44:26.710 --> 00:44:30.369
guests. Again, HamTalkLive .com and click on

00:44:30.369 --> 00:44:34.250
the show schedule link. So for now, this is Neil

00:44:34.250 --> 00:44:40.829
Rapp, WB9VPG saying 7375 and may the good DX

00:44:40.829 --> 00:44:58.179
be yours. Thanks for watching!
