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Live. Calling Let's Talk. Neil's your guy. Hamtop

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Live. Here we go on Hamtop Radio. We're the Ham

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Band. Hey, good evening everyone! It's HamTalk

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Live episode number 75 with The Ham Band. Recorded

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live on Thursday, August 3rd, 2017. I'm your

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host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning in

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to this episode of HamTalk Live. And tonight

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we're joined by Andrew, OZ5E, and Lisa from The

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Ham Band in Denmark. and we'll take your calls

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live as we always do in just a few minutes. And

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last week here on HamTalk Live, Sam Rose, KC2LRC,

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and Dr. Nathaniel Frisell, W2NAF, were here to

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talk about the Solar Eclipse QSO party coming

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up. So if you missed that or any other show,

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all you have to do is go to HamTalkLive .com

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and you can listen to us on demand. And we're

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also on the podcast things, Apple Podcasts, Stitcher,

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over on YouTube so just check us out wherever

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is most convenient for you. Well I just rolled

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in from taking a few days of vacation down in

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Myrtle Beach and it was a good getaway but wow

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I'm overwhelmed with all the stuff that I have

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to catch up on because there's been a lot going

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on. And I haven't quite caught up with it all,

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but there were a few things that were going to

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happen right away that I did want to mention

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just briefly. First of all, a very hearty congratulations

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to our friend Marty Sulaway, KC1CWF. uh for being

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named this year's amateur radio news line bill

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pasternak young ham of the year award winner

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so congratulations marty he's going to be formally

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receiving that in huntsville at the ham fest

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in just a couple of weeks So congratulations

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to him. Also, there's a FEMA exercise that started

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today called Vigilant Guard, and that continues

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today through August 6th. And Lloyd Colston,

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KC5FM, sent us some information on that, and

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honestly, I haven't had time to read it all.

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But I wanted to mention that, so if you are interested

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in that FEMA exercise, make sure you get ahold

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of Lloyd or look up Vigilant Guard and you can

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find something. about that, and also we'll have

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something over on amateur radio newsline about

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that real soon, but that'll be after the fact.

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And one last thing, a shout out to Ryan Geiser,

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N8VBQ from Lexington KY. Thanks for listening

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and appreciate hearing about you listening to

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the show. So thanks Ryan, appreciate it. So,

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uh, guys, gals. Get your questions ready to go

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for the ham band and we're gonna talk to them

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for a while and listen to some of their music

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at HamTalkLive .com. Well tonight, Andrew and

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Lisa are with us. Andrew has many call signs,

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but is perhaps best known for his contest station

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in Denmark, OZ5E. His personal call signs are

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OZ1XJ and G3WZZ. He and his wife Lisa make up

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the Andrew John and Lisa duo. They are very well

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known musicians, especially in Denmark and are

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members of the Darkford Folk Club Hall of Fame.

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But tonight we're talking about another band

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they formed and that's the Ham Band. Yes, it's

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the people who made that video from Atop that

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hundred foot tower, they're here to talk with

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you this evening. And actually it's three o 'clock

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in the morning in Denmark and I gave them a chance

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to do this pre -recorded and they said, no, no,

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no, we want to do it live. And they may be regretting

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that decision right now as they're, uh, they're

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loading up on coffee. So Andrew and Lisa, thank

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you so much for coming on the show anyway. Yeah,

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but it's it's it's nice to be here and a lot

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of coffee and we'll be okay Lisa's here, too

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Yes, and it's pitch -dark outside and our dog

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refused to come over to the radio room. So he's

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still asleep Yeah, I'd say it's sensible so thank

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you so much for being up at 3 a .m. For the show

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well It's a pleasure to have you here. And a

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few years ago, this music video that you guys

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made, come and join us on the airwaves. It went

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viral over here, at least. It was playing on

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a big screen TV at Dayton a few years ago. And

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it's been a big topic of discussion in the ham

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radio club that I do at my school. That we always

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play that video and they always sing, they're

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singing it. you know, half the time. And so I

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thought, you know, we, we ought to reach out

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and see if, uh, if you'd come on the show and

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talk a little bit about how you made that video.

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But before we do that, you were kind enough to

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send me a copy of your whole CD called seek you

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of course, which that's a play on CQ. Um, And

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I had a chance to listen to it on a drive home

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one night last week and I was I was really really

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impressed and I've been looking forward to doing

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the show because the wit of some of these lyrics

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and and the quality of this CD was just so impressive

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and I know you guys are fans of the Spurry Submissions

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band we've had them on and they do some rock

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and roll parodies but but this is some original

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country songs about ham radio and some of the

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real struggles in hams live so tell us about

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the CD and the musicians that you used for making

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that recording well the we were in the middle

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of doing a recording in Nashville and which is

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where we do all our recording and I had this

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idea let's see whether we can we can write a

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lot of songs that really do tell the whole story

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of about amateur radio and I was so lucky at

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the time I decided to write the songs it was

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you know nothing it's not recently but there's

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not a lot new happened in amateur radio since

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we did the album. So it was very, very lucky

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that we chose the right time and we got the best

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musicians in the world playing the music. So

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it turned out quite nice and I think more than

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a million people have seen the video and a few

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people have bought the album, not enough. And

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amateur radio is not an expensive hobby at all

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in my opinion. but the way we do it at OscarZulu5Echo.

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in Denmark. We're quite an advanced station.

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We've got a lot of nice antennas. And you know,

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the music side of things, it keeps us happy.

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Because every time we do a contest or work DX,

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the people say, hey, isn't that Andrew from the

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hand band? So I think we've made a couple of

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people happy going. Yeah, and and these musicians

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from Nashville Tell us some of the people they

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play with They well with in the past. Well, the

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the owner of the studio is is Wayne Moss and

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he everybody knows that the the Roy Orbison song

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pretty woman and it goes dong dong dong dong

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and the guy who played that riff was was Wayne

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Moss who owns the studio he didn't even play

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on the record and then the bass player I don't

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know if anybody remembers that the Buddy Holly

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when his plane crashed there was a Waylon Jennings

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and a gentleman called Just a moment. My mind

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is this the middle of the night, but Tommy also

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Yeah, Tommy also now Tommy also played the bass

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on this record and he was the guy who flipped

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a coin with the big bopper and the big bopper

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got the seat on the plane and he died in the

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crash and Tommy also Lived to play the bass on

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the handband go ahead Well, that's a deal there.

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That's a deal to play for the hand band. That's

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a good thing. And then some other people. We've

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got a lot of really good musicians. So the strange

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thing about the record is that it is far better

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than you might imagine. It sounds like a parody

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and it sounds like we are not a serious bunch

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of musicians. But I can tell you, we really are.

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and we've got mixed reception few people think

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that it's ridiculous to sing songs about amateur

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radio and to be honest they're absolutely right

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and sometimes that's a good thing yeah it is

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exactly well i admit um country music isn't usually

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my style even though it ironically when I worked

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in radio I was a DJ at a country music station

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for about three years but when I listened to

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this CD It was just so entertaining and I just

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kept listening over and over again. And the last

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song that we're going to play tonight, I don't

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know how many times I've listened to that song

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in the last week, but one of the jokes I always

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heard about country music and Rascal Flatts even

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made a song about it is what happens when you

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play a country song backwards? Do you know? I

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have no idea. Tell us. You get your wife back.

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You get your dog back. Your truck starts running

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again. Now, I didn't hear anything about dogs

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or trucks, but Lisa, I did notice there were

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several songs that had to do with hams that didn't

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keep their wives happy because they were on the

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radio all the time. So is that a real struggle?

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Well, in our little family, it's actually not

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a struggle because Andrew never goes off to work

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and leaves me at home. Because we work together,

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we've been professional musicians together for...

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over 40 years. So we're together 24 hours a day.

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So I think it's actually quite relaxing when

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he goes to his radio room and gives me and the

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dog a little bit of peace and quiet. So we're

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probably not a very typical ham radio family.

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Andrew was telling me about another one of the

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songs that was called Always On The Air, and

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there was an interesting story behind that where

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it was a struggle. So, Andrew, I think you've

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got your guitar there. You want to play a little

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bit of that one? Yeah, what I'm going to do,

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what Lisa and I are going to do, we're going

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to sing the first verse, just a short bit of

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it because we're not really up to scratch at

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three in the morning to play a whole song. But

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we'll play this one and try and concentrate on

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the words because I'm going to tell the story

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afterwards. So this is a little bit of the song

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called Always On The Air. In 1989, a good old

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friend of mine got married to a radio ham like

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I did. They were happy at the start, when they

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began to drift apart. Because he's always on

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the air, my friend confided. Cause he was always

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on the air It really wasn't fair More sing to

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some man who wasn't there Just like a crazy love

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affair It drove her to despair It seemed like

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he was always on the air There's supposed to

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be a real big roar of applause. Oh, we have that

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we have there it is So yeah, tell us the story

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about it's just an amazing story and it's absolutely

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true and this is one of the strange things that

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not a lot of people have picked up on this but

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Morse code is very very interesting because it

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is there are some psychologists that say that

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it's the shortest way for two human brains to

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contact each other because once you're up to

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speed really fast it's just almost it's so fast

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that you can't think about it and what happened

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it's absolutely true story in our city in in

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Denmark the second largest city is Aarhus that's

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alpha radio hotel uniform sugar and there was

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a gentleman who was a very very fanatical morse

00:18:02.569 --> 00:18:05.109
operator and he had a very good friend in in

00:18:05.109 --> 00:18:07.150
switzerland and they used he used to come home

00:18:07.150 --> 00:18:09.710
from work and go straight into the shack and

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operate the radio and this went on for a number

00:18:13.410 --> 00:18:17.390
of years and then the wife finally decided all

00:18:17.390 --> 00:18:20.430
right if you can't beat them join them so she

00:18:20.430 --> 00:18:23.839
got her license learnt Morse code, got up to

00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.180
speed and started using another radio in the

00:18:27.180 --> 00:18:32.359
same house and they went on for a while and then

00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:37.279
she actually fell in love with this Swiss guy

00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.079
who and they'd never met, they'd never seen each

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other before and at some point she asked her

00:18:44.460 --> 00:18:46.640
husband if they could invite the guy to visit

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and the guy came and visited and the love proved

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to be true and she moved away. So that was the

00:18:55.549 --> 00:18:57.890
story always on the air and it is absolutely

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true. And if anybody wants documentation, I have

00:19:00.369 --> 00:19:09.190
it. Okay. Wow. So, so Morse may have some closer

00:19:09.190 --> 00:19:13.470
connections than we actually thought. Well, uh,

00:19:13.609 --> 00:19:17.269
let's, let's get back to the, um, Join us on

00:19:17.269 --> 00:19:19.190
the airwaves and we're gonna play a little clip

00:19:19.190 --> 00:19:22.109
of that and just in case people haven't heard

00:19:22.109 --> 00:19:26.349
that But tell us how you were able to video that

00:19:26.349 --> 00:19:29.619
while you were up on the tower and that's not

00:19:29.619 --> 00:19:32.940
a small tower that's a hundred foot tower and

00:19:32.940 --> 00:19:36.759
i guess some people said wrote in and said they

00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:39.740
were worried about you not being properly secured

00:19:39.740 --> 00:19:42.319
to the tower when you did that and i know you

00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.279
were so so tell us how you were able to pull

00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.710
off that video shoot Well, the real reason we

00:19:49.710 --> 00:19:55.170
had a cherry picker or a crane, we were installing

00:19:55.170 --> 00:19:59.309
the top tower. We have terrible storms here.

00:20:00.049 --> 00:20:02.230
And by the way, I don't think I mentioned it,

00:20:02.230 --> 00:20:04.910
or you mentioned it, that I'm the chief engineer

00:20:04.910 --> 00:20:07.690
of the contest station, so I'm responsible for

00:20:07.690 --> 00:20:11.069
all the technical stuff. So when we did the music

00:20:11.069 --> 00:20:13.519
video, it was actually... we'd got the cherry

00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:16.480
picker to put up this huge antenna. At that time

00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:20.819
it was a Sommar 13 element log periodic sort

00:20:20.819 --> 00:20:23.359
of antenna, very very good multi -band antenna.

00:20:23.789 --> 00:20:26.730
we've grown up now, we use mono -banders nowadays,

00:20:27.069 --> 00:20:30.769
but back then it was multi -band antennas, and

00:20:30.769 --> 00:20:34.470
so when I actually changed from my working clothes

00:20:34.470 --> 00:20:37.450
into the tuxedo that I wore, for some stupid

00:20:37.450 --> 00:20:42.690
reason, I was already quite tired, and this is

00:20:42.690 --> 00:20:45.210
why I don't have a big smile on my face, which

00:20:45.210 --> 00:20:49.089
I rarely do, as my wife will tell you, but the

00:20:49.089 --> 00:20:53.769
idea was that we would film the the thing, and

00:20:53.769 --> 00:20:57.269
the crane was big enough to go above the 100

00:20:57.269 --> 00:21:00.349
-foot tower, so it's actually fairly impressive.

00:21:00.890 --> 00:21:02.809
Nowadays, people would say we've all done it

00:21:02.809 --> 00:21:05.369
using computer, whatever it's called, but this

00:21:05.369 --> 00:21:09.970
was done absolutely... that we were really up

00:21:09.970 --> 00:21:12.970
there. And the strangest thing of all is that

00:21:12.970 --> 00:21:16.630
our little puppy... He had he was down on the

00:21:16.630 --> 00:21:21.150
ground. He was only 12 or 13 weeks old and We

00:21:21.150 --> 00:21:24.410
played the song probably 25 times to get all

00:21:24.410 --> 00:21:27.789
the shots in and of course He probably could

00:21:27.789 --> 00:21:30.150
hear this thing and we're not the kind of people

00:21:30.150 --> 00:21:33.730
who listen to our own music But for the 15 years

00:21:33.730 --> 00:21:37.190
that that dog lived he absolutely howled and

00:21:37.190 --> 00:21:44.140
screamed every time we played that song It amazes

00:21:44.140 --> 00:21:48.119
me that a 13 year old Dog could remember it was

00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:50.559
a traumatic experience for that poor little puppy

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And it was only when we when we got to the chorus

00:21:53.700 --> 00:22:00.380
in the song. Yeah. Yeah And another thing was

00:22:00.380 --> 00:22:04.339
that was even more of a problem for us because

00:22:04.339 --> 00:22:07.839
I had to open champagne up there I was on on

00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.170
20 meters and I had about Six bottles of champagne

00:22:11.170 --> 00:22:14.950
to open and every time he saw us pick up a bottle

00:22:14.950 --> 00:22:22.009
of champagne He was he would freak out completely

00:22:22.009 --> 00:22:26.130
Champagne we had to go into another room a different

00:22:26.130 --> 00:22:32.250
room while we opened it Now Lisa you were up

00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:35.029
there with with that champagne I remember that

00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:39.460
Do you climb regularly, or was that something

00:22:39.460 --> 00:22:42.819
that you just got talked into for that? No, I

00:22:42.819 --> 00:22:49.759
don't. Yeah, I practiced a bit in the weeks before

00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.500
the filming. I practiced climbing up to about

00:22:52.500 --> 00:22:55.440
10 meters with my mountaineering gear and stuff.

00:22:56.099 --> 00:22:58.779
But on the day we did the filming, I went up

00:22:58.779 --> 00:23:02.400
with a photographer in the lift. and then climbed

00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:05.599
over from the lift to the mast. So that was fine.

00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:08.920
And I actually enjoyed it up there. Before then

00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:13.240
I had a bit of a scare about heights. But once

00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:15.960
I was up there on 20 meters and the sun was shining.

00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:19.839
And tied on. And of course I was tied on. We're

00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:22.539
all tied on when we're up there. I thought it

00:23:22.539 --> 00:23:26.980
was wonderful. So pretty view as well. Yeah,

00:23:26.980 --> 00:23:29.440
it was great. And it's just because when you

00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:34.319
see professional tower climbers, they often have

00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:39.359
fairly severely large equipment to keep them

00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:43.180
safe. But when you think about it, when rock

00:23:43.180 --> 00:23:46.480
climbers, mountaineers, they have very lightweight

00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:49.220
stuff, but it's strong enough to save your life.

00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:51.680
And that's what we wear. We wear very, very discreet,

00:23:51.940 --> 00:23:55.799
but very, very strong stuff. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:58.180
I want to make sure that you You mentioned that

00:23:58.180 --> 00:24:00.019
because I know there are some people concerned

00:24:00.019 --> 00:24:05.160
about that. So. All right. Well, let's listen

00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:08.880
to just a little clip of that song. And again,

00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:12.779
you can catch that over on, uh, on YouTube. It's,

00:24:12.819 --> 00:24:16.180
uh, join us on the airwaves by the ham band.

00:24:27.409 --> 00:24:34.210
Let the world unfurl before you. You'll be the

00:24:34.210 --> 00:24:40.569
one who sets the trends. All right, so there

00:24:40.569 --> 00:24:43.809
you have it. There's the story of doing that

00:24:43.809 --> 00:24:50.150
song up on the tower. Now, one of my favorite

00:24:50.150 --> 00:24:54.490
songs on the CD is I'm not climbing up the tower

00:24:54.490 --> 00:24:58.329
anymore. And Andrew, you're 70 years old, you

00:24:58.329 --> 00:25:02.250
told me, and you're still climbing. So was that

00:25:02.250 --> 00:25:06.009
song out of frustration after being on the tower

00:25:06.009 --> 00:25:09.069
so long to make the video? Or what was the story

00:25:09.069 --> 00:25:13.369
behind that? I think the big problem, as many

00:25:13.369 --> 00:25:16.509
people realize, is that when the wind blows,

00:25:16.970 --> 00:25:21.230
The you check the the weather forecast and you

00:25:21.230 --> 00:25:24.910
think well it says this kind of speed of wind

00:25:24.910 --> 00:25:30.450
but for some reason our station is is Incredibly

00:25:30.450 --> 00:25:32.750
windy and even though they tell us it's going

00:25:32.750 --> 00:25:35.730
to be this kind of speed It's always more and

00:25:35.730 --> 00:25:40.690
we lose towers. In fact our summer antenna which

00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:45.470
has survived all sorts of stuff in Florida. It's

00:25:45.470 --> 00:25:48.630
a very, very sturdy antenna. And I remember talking

00:25:48.630 --> 00:25:52.089
to Mr. Sommer in Florida, and he said after the

00:25:52.089 --> 00:25:55.750
second Sommer antenna died a death in the wind,

00:25:56.130 --> 00:26:00.450
he said, you may want to try another kind of

00:26:00.450 --> 00:26:05.470
antenna. So we did. But the problem is that nobody

00:26:05.470 --> 00:26:08.619
except me at the station climbs the tower. So

00:26:08.619 --> 00:26:13.640
I've been doing that for the last 35 years and

00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:19.240
I don't mind it too much. The biggest problem

00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:23.579
was getting past the tick ring halfway up the

00:26:23.579 --> 00:26:26.259
tower. If anybody's done tower climbing, the

00:26:26.259 --> 00:26:30.500
worst thing is climbing past a tick ring. That's

00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:33.640
really unpleasant. But apart from that, as Lisa

00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.740
says, once you're up there and you're tied on,

00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.799
it's a beautiful view and you can work with both

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:41.660
hands. And the height doesn't bother me at all.

00:26:42.579 --> 00:26:46.180
And I was up the tower just two or three days

00:26:46.180 --> 00:26:49.259
ago and fixing something which I hope I will

00:26:49.259 --> 00:26:51.900
never have to climb up and fix again. But I guess

00:26:51.900 --> 00:26:55.619
I will. I'll be up there quite soon. And, you

00:26:55.619 --> 00:26:59.119
know, it's just part of the hobby. Part of the

00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.140
most, I think it's the most fascinating thing

00:27:01.140 --> 00:27:04.559
about it is the antenna work. And so, you know,

00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.140
I'm a rag chewer, even though we have a contest

00:27:07.140 --> 00:27:11.519
station, I'm a rag chewer and I enjoy any kind

00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.519
of proper conversation with somebody. But a lot

00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.579
of the other guys at the station are fanatical

00:27:17.579 --> 00:27:20.980
DXers and fanatical contest people. And there's

00:27:20.980 --> 00:27:24.359
room for everything in this hobby. I think the

00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.240
most unpleasant thing about the hobby is where

00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:31.039
people say, I'm a contestor, you're spoiling

00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.779
my ability to be a contestor, or I'm a DXer,

00:27:33.940 --> 00:27:41.279
you're spoiling my ability to be a DXer. be more

00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.599
tolerant and if there's one thing that radio

00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.119
amateurs aren't is tolerant. Don't you agree

00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:51.220
Neil? I think it depends on the situation. I

00:27:51.220 --> 00:27:54.460
think some people have a little better tolerance

00:27:54.460 --> 00:27:59.390
than others maybe. Yeah, but it's you know, it's

00:27:59.390 --> 00:28:02.170
but it's it's a wonderful hobby and it's it's

00:28:02.170 --> 00:28:04.109
it's really really strange the only thing you

00:28:04.109 --> 00:28:08.150
know I was talking about the the recently you

00:28:08.150 --> 00:28:11.470
have the big Boy Scout Jamboree in the States

00:28:11.470 --> 00:28:14.450
and there was also a similar thing in in Europe

00:28:14.450 --> 00:28:17.069
and that happened to be in Denmark and You know,

00:28:17.069 --> 00:28:19.549
it's a strange thing that in the old days you

00:28:19.549 --> 00:28:23.220
could really at the Scout Jamborees you could

00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:25.539
really impress people by saying you know you

00:28:25.539 --> 00:28:29.599
you come from from Japan now come into the radio

00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.359
tent you can talk to your your folks back home

00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:35.680
in Japan or you can talk to somebody back home

00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:39.380
in Japan and nowadays the nobody in of the younger

00:28:39.380 --> 00:28:42.920
generation is impressed by that and I think that's

00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.740
a shame because it's it's so much different from

00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:50.539
using the the internet and Skype and Facebook

00:28:50.539 --> 00:28:54.279
and all that but You know times have changed

00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.660
and I'm still impressed when when I get visitors

00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:01.329
to the station and you can always see a potential

00:29:01.329 --> 00:29:04.009
radio ham and that's somebody who looks up with

00:29:04.009 --> 00:29:07.369
love at the big antenna and looks at the sky

00:29:07.369 --> 00:29:10.089
and you can see them imagining the ionosphere

00:29:10.089 --> 00:29:16.349
and in one of my songs I wrote a glass of beer

00:29:16.349 --> 00:29:19.349
and a friendly ionosphere and I think that's

00:29:19.349 --> 00:29:23.609
the way we radio hams look at the propagation

00:29:23.609 --> 00:29:27.920
of the waves. Go ahead. Now, you mentioned identifying

00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.220
ham radio operators. You've told me that Lisa

00:29:31.220 --> 00:29:39.599
has a very unique ability. Yeah, I can spot them.

00:29:41.099 --> 00:29:44.819
I've been traveling and been to parties and all

00:29:44.819 --> 00:29:47.400
of a sudden I can turn to the guy sitting next

00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.960
to me and say... You are a radio ham and they

00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.480
look very frightened and they'll see how did

00:29:54.480 --> 00:30:03.859
you know? Well, hey we're good we're gonna we're

00:30:03.859 --> 00:30:07.119
gonna stop here and we're gonna listen to just

00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.990
a couple of minutes of I'm not climbing up the

00:30:10.990 --> 00:30:13.990
tower anymore and then and then after that we're

00:30:13.990 --> 00:30:17.470
going to we're going to take some calls so here

00:30:17.470 --> 00:30:21.230
is I'm not climbing up the tower anymore from

00:30:21.230 --> 00:30:41.490
the ham band Big antennas on a hundred foot tower

00:30:41.490 --> 00:30:46.390
A brand new radio and maximum power I never thought

00:30:46.390 --> 00:30:52.089
I'd ever get to realise that Now Yen and me have

00:30:52.089 --> 00:30:57.750
got the lot But I'm never on the air at all Every

00:30:57.750 --> 00:31:01.670
time I want to chat for an hour Something sends

00:31:01.670 --> 00:31:05.549
me to the top of the tower From today I'm gonna

00:31:05.549 --> 00:31:11.079
put a stop to all that Cause I'm not climbing

00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.640
up the tower anymore I told you once, I told

00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.839
you twice a hundred times before The exercise

00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.839
may do me good, the view may overaw But I'm not

00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.000
climbing up the tower anymore That was the seventh

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.819
time I climbed today, my fingers are all raw

00:31:27.819 --> 00:31:30.920
My nose and toes are frozen and my skinny legs

00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.740
are sore You can beg and you can bribe me on

00:31:33.740 --> 00:31:37.140
your knees you may implore But I'm not climbing

00:31:37.140 --> 00:31:42.660
up the tower anymore I'll just relax and chat

00:31:42.829 --> 00:31:45.250
Okay, well there you have it Andrew's not climbing

00:31:45.250 --> 00:31:47.789
up the tower anymore at least until tomorrow

00:31:47.789 --> 00:31:51.630
so It's time for your calls now. So if you have

00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:55.220
a question for Andrew or Lisa that phone number

00:31:55.220 --> 00:32:01.220
to call is area code 812 and then net ham1 that's

00:32:01.220 --> 00:32:10.680
812 -638 -4261 in numbers 812 -638 -4261 or you

00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.299
can skype us our skype name is ham talk live

00:32:13.299 --> 00:32:15.940
or you can send us a tweet we'll check the tweets

00:32:15.940 --> 00:32:18.990
here in a little bit And that's at ham talk live

00:32:18.990 --> 00:32:21.009
as well. So if you've got a question about the

00:32:21.009 --> 00:32:24.250
video or the contest station or, or any of the

00:32:24.250 --> 00:32:28.630
music on the CD, just give us a call. And the

00:32:28.630 --> 00:32:31.789
time to do that is now. So we'll, we'll take

00:32:31.789 --> 00:32:37.089
those calls, um, as soon as you can make them.

00:32:37.690 --> 00:32:42.470
Um, now while we're waiting on that, uh, we've

00:32:42.470 --> 00:32:44.930
been talking about the contest station a bit.

00:32:45.009 --> 00:32:48.819
So I see that there's some, songs on the CD about

00:32:48.819 --> 00:32:52.720
contesting as well. And so tell us a little bit

00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:56.259
more about your contest station there at OZ5E.

00:32:57.140 --> 00:33:01.480
Okay, but OZ5E is the shortest possible CW call

00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:03.900
from Denmark. It's still a bit long with the

00:33:03.900 --> 00:33:08.019
O and the Z, but the E keeps it a bit short.

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.940
And we have probably the best contest station

00:33:12.940 --> 00:33:17.190
in Denmark and possibly four of the best operators.

00:33:17.650 --> 00:33:20.130
We do have the disadvantage that we're a little

00:33:20.130 --> 00:33:23.589
bit too far to the north, which means that things

00:33:23.589 --> 00:33:26.869
tend to end a little bit earlier than they do

00:33:26.869 --> 00:33:29.349
further south, which means we have a handicap,

00:33:29.849 --> 00:33:35.349
but we really have aimed to go for mono band

00:33:35.349 --> 00:33:39.230
antennas, so we've got a really nice setup and

00:33:39.230 --> 00:33:45.339
with mono bands on 160 all the way up to six

00:33:45.339 --> 00:33:51.980
meters and it works very well and with just to

00:33:51.980 --> 00:33:54.599
give you an idea our our operators they went

00:33:54.599 --> 00:34:00.720
to Qatar I think it was Alpha 73 Alpha I'm not

00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.660
absolutely certain I'm not a person who remembers

00:34:03.660 --> 00:34:06.579
call signs very well but Alpha 73 Alpha were

00:34:06.579 --> 00:34:11.110
number two in the world cq worldwide ssb and

00:34:11.110 --> 00:34:13.909
that was three or four of the operators from

00:34:13.909 --> 00:34:18.269
our station who won that title and if anybody's

00:34:18.269 --> 00:34:20.469
interested in contesting the same team will be

00:34:20.469 --> 00:34:25.809
on oscar zulu 5 echo the cq worldwide cw and

00:34:25.809 --> 00:34:29.769
ssb contest because they don't imagine they could

00:34:29.900 --> 00:34:32.619
possibly do better than number two in the world

00:34:32.619 --> 00:34:35.380
because the competition is of course over in

00:34:35.380 --> 00:34:38.519
the Caribbean. So they decided to stay home.

00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:41.880
So we look forward to that. Is there anything

00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:43.480
else you want to know about the station, Neil?

00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.320
Yeah, so how many how many antennas do you have

00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.880
on that tower right now? Well, as it changed

00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.929
since the video? It has we've got two we've got

00:34:55.929 --> 00:34:59.630
three towers now, so it's a mono band of five

00:34:59.630 --> 00:35:04.030
elements on 20 meters six elements on 15 six

00:35:04.030 --> 00:35:08.789
elements on 10 and then a four square on 80 and

00:35:08.789 --> 00:35:11.929
Vertical on 160 and a couple of things on six

00:35:11.929 --> 00:35:15.269
meters six meters is getting really really popular

00:35:15.269 --> 00:35:20.909
not in my particular experience, but this new

00:35:20.909 --> 00:35:24.449
digital mode which I I can't remember what it's

00:35:24.449 --> 00:35:27.030
called, maybe you know what it's called, but

00:35:27.030 --> 00:35:30.789
very, very, very high degree of activity on six

00:35:30.789 --> 00:35:32.750
meters at the moment. I wonder if you do that,

00:35:32.869 --> 00:35:37.389
Neil. Is that FT8? I'm not sure. It's a brand

00:35:37.389 --> 00:35:41.670
new one. Yeah, and you know, it's never interested

00:35:41.670 --> 00:35:44.949
me. I don't know if you are aware of the fact

00:35:44.949 --> 00:35:48.150
that the difference between amateur radio in

00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:51.150
in the States and in the UK and a lot of the

00:35:51.150 --> 00:35:53.789
other countries in certainly in Europe is that

00:35:53.789 --> 00:35:57.769
a lot of the people don't really like rag chewing

00:35:57.769 --> 00:36:00.530
because English is a second language for them

00:36:00.530 --> 00:36:03.269
and the rag chewing if it's not within their

00:36:03.269 --> 00:36:07.550
own country tends to be a little difficult, whereas

00:36:07.550 --> 00:36:11.150
in the UK and in America, we all write to you

00:36:11.150 --> 00:36:13.130
as we bore each other to death. Don't you agree,

00:36:13.369 --> 00:36:17.750
Neil? And in fact, you talk about that in one

00:36:17.750 --> 00:36:23.190
of your songs that's coming up. And I really

00:36:23.190 --> 00:36:25.989
appreciated that, because one of the things that

00:36:25.989 --> 00:36:31.090
I've always said in ham radio is that there's

00:36:31.090 --> 00:36:35.300
three things you always talk about. The weather

00:36:35.300 --> 00:36:41.500
your garden and your ambulance Those are the

00:36:41.500 --> 00:36:44.159
three things that you always have to talk about

00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.719
Yeah, but under the one you're thinking about

00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.760
is I I think I said I don't know your power or

00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.260
the height of your tower and frankly, I don't

00:36:54.260 --> 00:37:01.179
give a That is the one, and we will play that

00:37:01.179 --> 00:37:03.739
here in just a little bit. In fact, we're going

00:37:03.739 --> 00:37:06.539
to play another little clip about contesting.

00:37:06.659 --> 00:37:10.039
This one's a fairly short one. But again, the

00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:16.059
phone number to call is 812 -638 -4261. So give

00:37:16.059 --> 00:37:20.139
us a call, 812 -NET -M1. And if you have a question

00:37:20.139 --> 00:37:23.579
for Andrew and Lisa, and we'll be back here in

00:37:23.579 --> 00:37:29.980
just a minute. can beat a weekend contest and

00:37:29.980 --> 00:37:33.340
no one in the world can beat us we're busy getting

00:37:33.340 --> 00:37:36.199
ready for the final conquest a lot of little

00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:39.800
plans to discuss just an hour to go before we

00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.239
start the show and then it's 48 hours of hell

00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.539
although it's hard to explain why we split up

00:37:45.539 --> 00:37:48.940
with this pain well we do it again and again

00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.179
I'm sorry, I'm losing you a little bit. We've

00:38:11.179 --> 00:38:14.019
got a, I think we've got a slight ionospheric

00:38:14.019 --> 00:38:19.000
disturbance here. I think there's a little bit.

00:38:19.260 --> 00:38:22.659
Yeah. It's on my end. I noticed the internet

00:38:22.659 --> 00:38:26.699
just cut out on me. So yeah. that was on my end

00:38:26.699 --> 00:38:29.719
so my apologies there and and we'll uh we'll

00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.179
get the recording uploaded so uh so people can

00:38:33.179 --> 00:38:36.059
can hear what was happening there so my apologies

00:38:36.059 --> 00:38:39.860
but uh we were we're talking about the um contest

00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:42.659
uh song we were playing some of that and and

00:38:42.659 --> 00:38:45.340
you could really get pumped up listening to that

00:38:45.340 --> 00:38:49.360
song um before a contest that could give you

00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:54.309
some energy couldn't it yeah use about it. It's

00:38:54.309 --> 00:38:56.769
because it's a fairly tempo thing. I didn't mention

00:38:56.769 --> 00:39:01.269
that the drummer on this is, is absolutely the

00:39:01.269 --> 00:39:03.650
most renowned drummer in the world. He's called

00:39:03.650 --> 00:39:08.550
Kenny. And you all know from Youngsburg and just

00:39:08.550 --> 00:39:16.409
about every in the 70s, 80s, 90s. Andrew, are

00:39:16.409 --> 00:39:19.449
you back with us? Yeah, I've been here all the

00:39:19.449 --> 00:39:24.329
time. The internet here has been cutting out.

00:39:24.550 --> 00:39:30.050
I can see that it's cutting out. So yeah, well,

00:39:30.050 --> 00:39:33.409
we've lost a little bit of this, but we've got

00:39:33.409 --> 00:39:35.789
it on the recording. We should have done it on

00:39:35.789 --> 00:39:41.849
HF instead, you know. Yeah. And the way the ionosphere

00:39:41.849 --> 00:39:46.280
is these days. Wow. If I just point the the five

00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:48.219
element I've got four element I didn't mention

00:39:48.219 --> 00:39:54.059
this four elements monoband on on 40 so It's

00:39:54.059 --> 00:39:58.760
that's pretty good 40 meters for me is a little

00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.820
bit like 20 meters at the moment So if anybody's

00:40:01.820 --> 00:40:04.820
on 40, I can just point the antenna to the America

00:40:04.820 --> 00:40:08.400
and I'll fry you up. Go ahead Yeah, there you

00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.909
go. All right Well, I appreciate you coming on

00:40:12.909 --> 00:40:16.730
here and we're just about out of time here. But

00:40:16.730 --> 00:40:19.409
I know you wanted to talk a little bit about

00:40:19.409 --> 00:40:21.969
one of your passions, getting people interested

00:40:21.969 --> 00:40:26.389
in ham radio. So let's talk just a little bit

00:40:26.389 --> 00:40:29.150
about that and then we're going to have to go.

00:40:29.659 --> 00:40:34.800
Okay, but my Inspiration is I would really like

00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:38.099
people to appreciate why I love amateur radio

00:40:38.099 --> 00:40:41.679
And I've tried to do it and a number of people

00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:49.579
You mentioned Bill Pasternak and the the other

00:40:49.579 --> 00:40:53.679
guy was Dave Bell and Dave Bell actually wanted

00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:58.079
us to do a video about about amateur radio to

00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:01.360
inspire young people and that is partly why we

00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:04.639
did the silly one where we're up the tower but

00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.400
I know that it doesn't really work and in the

00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.900
same way that I'm saying that talking to the

00:41:09.900 --> 00:41:14.739
Boy Scouts and Girl Guides and I think you call

00:41:14.739 --> 00:41:17.260
them Girl Scouts actually but in England we call

00:41:17.260 --> 00:41:22.059
them Girl Guides it just doesn't seem to appeal

00:41:22.059 --> 00:41:24.989
to young people that much because they've got

00:41:24.989 --> 00:41:28.550
their iPhones and all that. What I tend to point

00:41:28.550 --> 00:41:32.090
out is that it's easy enough to pick up the phone

00:41:32.090 --> 00:41:34.630
and call somebody but you have to know a number

00:41:34.630 --> 00:41:36.550
and you have to know somebody in order to be

00:41:36.550 --> 00:41:38.969
able to call them and the beauty of ham radio

00:41:38.969 --> 00:41:44.909
has always been the strange unknown quality about

00:41:44.909 --> 00:41:48.010
who's going to come back to your CQ call and

00:41:48.010 --> 00:41:51.949
that's what I'm trying to explain to people.

00:41:52.329 --> 00:41:58.610
It's just a different world and it's very very

00:41:58.610 --> 00:42:03.510
difficult to communicate the concept and at the

00:42:03.510 --> 00:42:08.670
end of the day we all discovered this for ham

00:42:08.670 --> 00:42:12.230
radio for different reasons and I have not found

00:42:12.230 --> 00:42:15.989
a common factor yet but I'm working on it and

00:42:15.989 --> 00:42:20.369
I'm going to do a proper video that doesn't bore

00:42:20.369 --> 00:42:24.210
people to death because the problem is they show

00:42:24.210 --> 00:42:28.030
you with your Handheld radio and who cares it's

00:42:28.030 --> 00:42:30.869
just like a mobile phone and they show people

00:42:30.869 --> 00:42:34.050
with like us with five elements on 20 and four

00:42:34.050 --> 00:42:37.449
elements on 40 and This makes it frightening,

00:42:37.449 --> 00:42:42.610
but I want to show people with the station on

00:42:42.610 --> 00:42:46.090
Pitcairn Island or Santolina Island with the

00:42:46.090 --> 00:42:49.719
piece of wet string and a 10 watt transmitter,

00:42:50.059 --> 00:42:52.699
and that's what it's all about. You don't need

00:42:52.699 --> 00:42:55.480
a fortune to get into this hobby, I don't think.

00:42:56.099 --> 00:42:58.639
Well, we're going to have to end it there, Andrew,

00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:05.139
but check out OZ5E .com for the Seek You songs

00:43:05.139 --> 00:43:08.860
and about the contest station and tune in next

00:43:08.860 --> 00:43:10.559
week. We hope to have something about Huntsville

00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:13.440
next week, but that's a wrap for this week's

00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:15.860
edition of HamTalk Live. So thanks to Andrew

00:43:15.860 --> 00:43:20.260
and Lisa and I'll say 7375 and may the good DX

00:43:20.260 --> 00:43:32.539
be yours. Well you came right back to my secure

00:43:32.539 --> 00:43:36.300
call Your readability five and strength nine

00:43:36.300 --> 00:43:40.940
You never once mentioned your weather at all

00:43:40.940 --> 00:43:46.179
And I didn't mention mine We talked and talked

00:43:46.179 --> 00:43:50.280
for hours and hours I completely forgot you're

00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:54.960
a ham I don't know your power or the height of

00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:59.389
your tower And frankly I don't give a damn So

00:43:59.389 --> 00:44:04.610
73s, to you and your family, I'll be seeing you

00:44:04.610 --> 00:44:08.969
further down the loch. You're 73s, to you and

00:44:08.969 --> 00:44:12.670
your family, I'll be seeing you further down

00:44:12.670 --> 00:44:16.969
the loch. It's hard to believe that you're empty

00:44:16.969 --> 00:44:20.110
indeed, cause you sound just like a local up

00:44:20.110 --> 00:44:25.869
here. But why don't those whistling Mediterranean's

00:44:25.869 --> 00:44:34.090
check it with green? So we have talked about

00:44:34.090 --> 00:44:38.269
thousands of things About shoes, about ships,

00:44:38.610 --> 00:44:43.269
about ceiling wax About cabbages and kings
