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Some upgrades to the National Voice 00:01:43.299 --> 00:01:47.180 of America Museum of Broadcasting and their 75th 00:01:47.180 --> 00:01:50.579 anniversary celebration recorded live on Thursday, 00:01:51.140 --> 00:01:55.959 September 14th, 2017. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, 00:01:56.140 --> 00:02:00.290 WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning in. To this episode 00:02:00.290 --> 00:02:03.230 of HamTalk Live tonight, we're joined by Gary 00:02:03.230 --> 00:02:09.729 West, K8DEV and Jay Adrick, K8CJY from the National 00:02:09.729 --> 00:02:13.729 Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting in Westchester, 00:02:13.810 --> 00:02:17.449 Ohio. And we will take your calls in just a few 00:02:17.449 --> 00:02:20.789 minutes. On HamTalk Live last week, Bobby Graves 00:02:20.789 --> 00:02:23.629 was here, KB5HAV, to talk about the Hurricane 00:02:23.629 --> 00:02:27.270 Watch Net, and Lloyd Colston, KC5FM from the 00:02:27.270 --> 00:02:30.370 Voice over IP Hurricane Net, and talked about 00:02:30.370 --> 00:02:33.430 the status of their nets, and a lot of that health 00:02:33.430 --> 00:02:36.189 and welfare traffic is still passing around on 00:02:36.189 --> 00:02:39.210 some of the nets, and so if you missed out on 00:02:39.210 --> 00:02:42.550 the information on the hurricane nets, you can... 00:02:42.569 --> 00:02:45.949 Tune us in at HamTalkLive .com or you can check 00:02:45.949 --> 00:02:50.990 out one of our podcast versions on Apple Podcasts, 00:02:51.009 --> 00:02:54.530 Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Google Play, TuneIn, SoundCloud. 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:59.759 And we're also over on YouTube. Do have two announcements 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.580 here before we take our break and then talk to 00:03:02.580 --> 00:03:07.879 Gary and Jay tonight. Nathan N7NAN wants to share 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:13.120 a special event station W7NTV. Will be operating 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.360 from the National Tribal Emergency Management 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:19.620 Conference at the Tai Chi Palace Casino and Resort 00:03:19.620 --> 00:03:23.360 in Lemoore, California, September 18th through 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.949 the 22nd. They'll be on 20 and 40 meters and 00:03:26.949 --> 00:03:29.629 they'll post frequencies and times on their Facebook 00:03:29.629 --> 00:03:32.650 page. Post your call sign, date, time, frequency 00:03:32.650 --> 00:03:35.590 you made contact on the Facebook page. That's 00:03:35.590 --> 00:03:39.830 the NTARA, National Tribal Amateur Radio Association. 00:03:40.550 --> 00:03:42.969 So if you get a chance, get on the air and do 00:03:42.969 --> 00:03:46.030 that. And one other announcement, we want to 00:03:46.030 --> 00:03:48.830 give a shout out to Gail, the mother of Marty, 00:03:48.949 --> 00:03:53.550 KC1 Chicken with Fries. and his sister Emma, 00:03:54.129 --> 00:03:57.210 who both passed their license exams this week. 00:03:57.949 --> 00:04:02.330 So congratulations and welcome to Ham Radio. 00:04:03.310 --> 00:04:06.810 I'm just really glad to see that happened. here 00:04:06.810 --> 00:04:09.650 recently. So get your questions ready to go about 00:04:09.650 --> 00:04:11.830 the Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting. 00:04:11.909 --> 00:04:15.729 We'll be talking to Gary and Jay. The telephone 00:04:15.729 --> 00:04:20.430 number when we get to that point is 812 -NET 00:04:20.430 --> 00:04:28.120 -HAM -1. That's 812 -638 -4261. 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You know, September is 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:10.560 buy your husband a ham radio month, I saw on 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.970 Twitter. if you saw it on Twitter it has to be 00:06:13.970 --> 00:06:17.810 true right so you know all you gotta do is just 00:06:17.810 --> 00:06:21.129 drop a little hint and the phone number for the 00:06:21.129 --> 00:06:28.290 ham station it's 800 -729 -4373 and you know 00:06:28.290 --> 00:06:34.009 just mention you know a ICOM 7300 or a TS 990 00:06:34.009 --> 00:06:36.930 Kenwood would be would make a real nice present 00:06:36.930 --> 00:06:41.259 you know so they can do that or or go to hamstation 00:06:41.259 --> 00:06:44.120 .com maybe you just leave the page up maybe maybe 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:48.279 that'll work well thanks to the ham station for 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.120 helping us out pay part of the bills on the show 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:53.680 and make sure you listen to us every thursday 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:57.699 night at 9 p .m eastern time right here hamtalklive 00:06:57.699 --> 00:07:02.279 .com. Our guest tonight, Gary West, K -8 DEV, 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:05.019 was born and grew up in rural Ohio and came to 00:07:05.019 --> 00:07:08.939 Cincinnati in 1964 to attend the University of 00:07:08.939 --> 00:07:11.339 Cincinnati where he graduated with a Bachelor 00:07:11.339 --> 00:07:14.379 of Science degree in Industrial Management. Gary 00:07:14.379 --> 00:07:16.720 and his wife Dee Dee have been married for 49 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.480 years and lived in the Cincinnati area that entire 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:25.399 time and he is now retired. He was the co -owner 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:29.639 of GW Associates that did consulting, packaging, 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:33.439 brokers, and manufacturers representatives, and 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.920 during his career he held various management 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.970 positions at Kroger Company, and was also employed 00:07:39.970 --> 00:07:44.930 at Procter & Gamble, WONE Radio, and WUBE Radio. 00:07:45.769 --> 00:07:48.329 And currently Gary is on the board of the National 00:07:48.329 --> 00:07:51.269 Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting and the 00:07:51.269 --> 00:07:54.870 Gray History of Wireless Museum. He's an advanced 00:07:54.870 --> 00:07:57.870 class amateur radio operator and licensed in 00:07:57.870 --> 00:08:01.970 1961. And also with us tonight is Jay Adrick, 00:08:01.970 --> 00:08:06.389 K8CJY. He's been active in ham radio since 61. 00:08:06.850 --> 00:08:09.870 He's a 51 plus year veteran of the broadcast 00:08:09.870 --> 00:08:13.490 industry. In 2013, he retired from the Harris 00:08:13.490 --> 00:08:16.029 Corporation as their vice president of broadcast 00:08:16.029 --> 00:08:20.129 technology, but continues as a consultant in 00:08:20.129 --> 00:08:23.529 the industry for digital television. spectrum 00:08:23.529 --> 00:08:28.110 issues and some of those repacks where they're 00:08:28.110 --> 00:08:31.230 moving some of the channels around. He was awarded 00:08:31.230 --> 00:08:33.350 the Television Engineering Achievement Award 00:08:33.350 --> 00:08:37.289 by the NAB and a fellow of the Society of Motion 00:08:37.289 --> 00:08:42.029 Picture and Television Engineers and IEEE and 00:08:42.029 --> 00:08:45.850 SBE as well. Jay serves as a board member of 00:08:45.850 --> 00:08:49.509 the Voice of America National Museum of Broadcasting. 00:08:49.610 --> 00:08:51.710 So guys, welcome back to the show. It's been 00:08:51.710 --> 00:08:56.879 a while. Well, thanks for having us Yeah, now 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:02.259 that you've got a big gala event coming up here 00:09:02.259 --> 00:09:06.740 in a little over a week and the 75th anniversary 00:09:06.740 --> 00:09:10.559 of the voice of America is coming up and You 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:13.240 got a big celebration there in Westchester, Ohio 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.879 on the north suburbs, I guess we will say of 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:21.120 Cincinnati and The big celebration is coming 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:25.600 up next Saturday on the 23rd of September. So, 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:27.960 Gary, why don't you tell us about the big party? 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:31.340 Well, we're looking forward to having a great 00:09:31.340 --> 00:09:35.340 time, Neil. It's a dinner and dance party that's 00:09:35.340 --> 00:09:40.259 a fundraiser for the museum. And it's going to 00:09:40.259 --> 00:09:44.279 be very exciting because longtime journalist 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:48.759 and entertainer, Nick Clooney, will be our MC 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:52.779 and will lead the gala and For those of us in 00:09:52.779 --> 00:09:55.779 Cincinnati, we know Nick as the longtime anchor 00:09:55.779 --> 00:09:58.480 here on one of the TV stations. He was also an 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.580 anchor at Station out in Los Angeles for many 00:10:03.580 --> 00:10:07.519 years and also was a host on AMC which I believe 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:12.279 was American movie classics Cable TV channel 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:14.659 and if I'm wrong, correct me. Yeah, that's right. 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:20.409 Yeah, okay But to the rest of the world, he's 00:10:20.409 --> 00:10:23.289 better known, I guess, as Rosemary Clooney's 00:10:23.289 --> 00:10:28.070 brother or George Clooney's dad. So it's really 00:10:28.070 --> 00:10:30.009 going to be great to have him there because he 00:10:30.009 --> 00:10:36.070 has quite a knowledge of broadcasting. He's quite 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:38.370 a reader and writer and a student of history 00:10:38.370 --> 00:10:41.830 and has a tremendous knowledge of how the VOA 00:10:41.830 --> 00:10:46.399 was involved in. helping shape our democratic 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:51.059 way of life here in America. But also Carmen 00:10:51.059 --> 00:10:54.480 de Leon and the new studio big band will play 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:57.059 music selections from the days of live radio 00:10:57.059 --> 00:11:01.000 broadcasting and that'll be real interesting 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.870 I think. The museum also plans to offer some 00:11:05.870 --> 00:11:08.590 special one -of -a -kind items for bid during 00:11:08.590 --> 00:11:12.370 the evening. But the main thing that's going 00:11:12.370 --> 00:11:15.289 to be exciting other than all the stuff I've 00:11:15.289 --> 00:11:18.090 talked about before is we're opening a new exhibit 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:23.389 on radio entrepreneur, Powell Crosley, and Jay 00:11:23.389 --> 00:11:27.360 has a real thorough knowledge of Powell. Yeah, 00:11:27.500 --> 00:11:31.159 well, that's a great deal. And Jay, let's talk 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:34.279 about that here in just a second. But Gary, before 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:38.019 we do that, I want to mention, too, that your 00:11:38.019 --> 00:11:40.879 club station does have a special event station 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:45.659 planned for the day of the gala, right? Yes. 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:49.440 We do plan to operate starting mid -morning, 00:11:49.500 --> 00:11:52.679 probably around 9 o 'clock, and be on the air 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.769 up until just for the event begins at six o 'clock. 00:11:57.830 --> 00:12:00.570 Don't know for sure what frequencies will operate. 00:12:00.809 --> 00:12:03.250 With conditions the way they are we'll have to 00:12:03.250 --> 00:12:07.110 pick spots. So keep your ears for us and hopefully 00:12:07.110 --> 00:12:09.730 somebody will spot us so you can have a little, 00:12:10.750 --> 00:12:14.009 don't have too much trouble finding us. Yeah 00:12:14.009 --> 00:12:18.789 okay so listen for that call sign it's WC8VOA. 00:12:19.330 --> 00:12:22.429 So it should be an easy one to pick out on the 00:12:22.429 --> 00:12:25.049 bands, but they'll be on there. So yeah, let's 00:12:25.049 --> 00:12:29.509 go to Jay and I was there over Hamvention weekend 00:12:29.509 --> 00:12:32.210 and was amazed at all the stuff you've added 00:12:32.210 --> 00:12:36.250 to the museum. And now there's this new Powell 00:12:36.250 --> 00:12:40.190 -Crosley exhibit. So tell us a little history 00:12:40.190 --> 00:12:42.909 on Powell -Crosley. I know there's a good book 00:12:42.909 --> 00:12:45.730 out there too. I've seen it. I wish I had time 00:12:45.730 --> 00:12:50.299 to sit down and read it. Tell us about Powell 00:12:50.299 --> 00:12:54.879 -Crosley and a little sneak peek into the exhibit 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.220 that's going to open up next week. Okay, very 00:12:58.220 --> 00:13:01.659 good, Neil. Well, Powell was a very interesting 00:13:01.659 --> 00:13:09.320 gentleman in his era. If he were evaluated by 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.080 today's standards, people would say that he was 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:18.769 ADHD. the guy was going in 20 directions at all 00:13:18.769 --> 00:13:22.549 times. Started out as an entrepreneur at a very 00:13:22.549 --> 00:13:25.690 young age. His dad was a well -established lawyer 00:13:25.690 --> 00:13:30.090 here in Cincinnati and he wanted Powell to go 00:13:30.090 --> 00:13:33.929 to law school but Powell had I think a semester 00:13:33.929 --> 00:13:36.570 or two of law school at the University of Cincinnati 00:13:36.570 --> 00:13:40.049 and decided that was not for him. The thing that 00:13:40.049 --> 00:13:44.809 really interested him when he was quite young, 00:13:45.029 --> 00:13:48.950 were automobiles, which were just coming into 00:13:48.950 --> 00:13:56.029 their own. And Powell started with the idea that 00:13:56.029 --> 00:13:58.110 eventually he wanted to be an automobile manufacturer, 00:13:58.129 --> 00:14:00.870 and he was much later in life. But he wanted 00:14:00.870 --> 00:14:06.190 to be a manufacturer, but he started small. He 00:14:06.190 --> 00:14:09.950 came up with an invention that would put a liner 00:14:09.950 --> 00:14:15.039 inside of the tires of the day. that helped prevent 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:20.740 flats. He also developed a radiator cap with 00:14:20.740 --> 00:14:23.700 a flag holder that was popular during World War 00:14:23.700 --> 00:14:29.379 I. Powell had a brother, Lewis, who became his 00:14:29.379 --> 00:14:33.960 business partner. And he had some ups and downs 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:39.679 in business. He also got into a business that 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:44.899 was woodworking that made cabinets for Victrola's. 00:14:46.299 --> 00:14:56.379 And in the early 20s, around 1921, Powell's son, 00:14:56.460 --> 00:14:59.299 who at that time was about I think 10 or 12 years 00:14:59.299 --> 00:15:02.720 old, was really interested in this new thing 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:06.279 called radio, not so much broadcast radio, but 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:09.860 radio in general. because there were very few 00:15:09.860 --> 00:15:11.740 broadcast stations on the air. There were a couple 00:15:11.740 --> 00:15:14.820 of experimental stations, but it was mostly amateur 00:15:14.820 --> 00:15:19.279 communications. And Ian tried to get his dad 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:23.039 to buy a radio receiver and they went out to 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:26.580 Cincinnati and shopped around and found that 00:15:26.580 --> 00:15:31.740 the average radio receiver was about $130 in 00:15:31.740 --> 00:15:36.580 1920, which was big money at that time. And he 00:15:36.580 --> 00:15:40.309 figured there was a a better way to do it, a 00:15:40.309 --> 00:15:46.450 cheaper way to do it. So he contacted the electrical 00:15:46.450 --> 00:15:49.490 engineering department at the University of Cincinnati 00:15:49.490 --> 00:15:52.330 and hooked up with a student, a fellow of them 00:15:52.330 --> 00:15:57.029 with Dorman Israel, and with Dorman, he was able 00:15:57.029 --> 00:16:03.570 to come up with an inexpensive radio receiver, 00:16:03.929 --> 00:16:08.919 but he also realized that if you were gonna market 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:10.620 radio receivers, you had to have something to 00:16:10.620 --> 00:16:14.159 listen to. And at the time, there were only two 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:16.539 or three stations that were on the air, but they 00:16:16.539 --> 00:16:19.000 were on the air at sporadic times, the programming 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:23.120 wasn't very good, and it was not something that 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:27.279 would drive people to want to necessarily have 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:33.600 a receiver. So he, at that point in time, commercial 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:35.480 radio was just coming around, but he started 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:39.820 out actually, with an amateur radio call, 8CR. 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.659 And he had Dorman build a small transmitter that 00:16:45.659 --> 00:16:50.340 was an AM transmitter that he set up in the living 00:16:50.340 --> 00:16:55.419 room of his home. And he played music. He had 00:16:55.419 --> 00:16:58.779 a piano that could be played for live music. 00:16:59.340 --> 00:17:02.519 But one of his favorites was the song of India. 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:06.559 And the Song of India was a popular tune at the 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:11.440 time. He had a 78 disc that he played on a crank 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:16.240 up Victrola. And he was fascinated by the fact 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.579 that he could, with this 50 watt station, be 00:17:20.579 --> 00:17:24.140 heard in quite a few locations around the Cincinnati 00:17:24.140 --> 00:17:28.900 area by those who actually had receivers. And 00:17:28.900 --> 00:17:33.579 he... Realized that there was a future in this 00:17:33.579 --> 00:17:36.339 thing that was coming about at that time called 00:17:36.339 --> 00:17:41.000 broadcasting so he moved the station from his 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.220 living room to the plant where he was building 00:17:45.220 --> 00:17:49.420 the the woodworking materials though the Victorian 00:17:49.420 --> 00:17:57.140 cabinets and began to build radios for sale, 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:01.940 but also applied for a license and in March of 00:18:01.940 --> 00:18:10.519 1922 was granted the call WLW. Crosley increased 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:14.400 the power to 500 watts with a homemade transmitter 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.140 that didn't work very well and eventually that 00:18:18.140 --> 00:18:21.740 was replaced by a western electric transmitter 00:18:21.740 --> 00:18:26.410 and Powell sort of dreamed in 10 dB steps. So 00:18:26.410 --> 00:18:31.869 his next step was to move to 5 ,000 watts. And 00:18:31.869 --> 00:18:35.970 for the first time in broadcast history, the 00:18:35.970 --> 00:18:38.950 transmitter was located away from the studio. 00:18:39.009 --> 00:18:42.390 It was located out in Harrison, Ohio. And that 00:18:42.390 --> 00:18:50.089 happened in 1925. So Powell believed in good 00:18:50.089 --> 00:18:54.970 programming. He hired musicians and talent. and 00:18:54.970 --> 00:19:01.529 began building up the station. By the late 20s, 00:19:01.650 --> 00:19:06.549 the station was at 5 ,000 watts, and he acquired 00:19:06.549 --> 00:19:11.369 a second station, WSAI, which was owned by the 00:19:11.369 --> 00:19:18.670 U .S. Playing Card Company. So Powell acquired 00:19:18.670 --> 00:19:26.950 the transmitter site out at Mason that WSAI And 00:19:26.950 --> 00:19:33.029 he moved WLW out to Mason alongside of WSAI. 00:19:33.069 --> 00:19:36.930 And again, thinking in 10 dB steps, he went to 00:19:36.930 --> 00:19:42.829 50 ,000 watts in 1928. And at that point, he 00:19:42.829 --> 00:19:51.369 needed, since he was heard in many areas far 00:19:51.369 --> 00:19:54.470 off from Cincinnati, needed better programming, 00:19:55.150 --> 00:19:58.710 so he built a new factory for his radio business 00:19:58.710 --> 00:20:03.589 and also his appliance business that he had started. 00:20:05.009 --> 00:20:08.690 In that building, he also set up the WLW Studios, 00:20:09.190 --> 00:20:11.990 which were magnificent studios for their time, 00:20:12.529 --> 00:20:17.049 and again had major improvements in programming. 00:20:18.329 --> 00:20:25.460 He was... part of the NBC radio network around 00:20:25.460 --> 00:20:31.700 1928. The network was beginning and he added 00:20:31.700 --> 00:20:36.279 WLW to the network, but unlike a lot of stations 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:40.019 that only took the network in as a source, he 00:20:40.019 --> 00:20:43.660 was originating programming for the network as 00:20:43.660 --> 00:20:46.640 well as carrying some of the network programs. 00:20:48.299 --> 00:20:55.599 Well again thinking in 10 DB steps in 1932 He 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:59.079 had a new antenna system built for the station 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:01.940 the Blahnach tower that still stands today in 00:21:01.940 --> 00:21:12.019 Mason He also Ordered a 500 kilowatt amplifier 00:21:13.029 --> 00:21:17.730 From RCA who actually was a program manager for 00:21:17.730 --> 00:21:21.289 the project the majority of the of the works 00:21:21.289 --> 00:21:24.390 of the transmitter were built by the folks at 00:21:24.390 --> 00:21:29.450 Westinghouse and at General Electric and That 00:21:29.450 --> 00:21:35.309 transmitter went on the air in in 1934 500 kilowatts 00:21:35.309 --> 00:21:39.069 It was the highest power commercial AM station 00:21:39.069 --> 00:21:42.920 in the country and by then He was, in essence, 00:21:43.140 --> 00:21:49.859 a network all to his own. His talent was there 00:21:49.859 --> 00:21:54.599 at the time, was really some of the top people 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:58.720 in the industry. Red Skelton was one of the entertainers. 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:03.039 Derwin Kirby, Red Barber was a sportscaster because 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:05.720 at this point in time, he had acquired the Cincinnati 00:22:05.720 --> 00:22:10.009 Reds. So he was quite an entrepreneur. Radio 00:22:10.009 --> 00:22:13.470 wasn't his only business. I mentioned appliances 00:22:13.470 --> 00:22:18.450 and he got into the business of manufacturing 00:22:18.450 --> 00:22:24.029 things like refrigerators. He developed some 00:22:24.029 --> 00:22:33.049 very unusual appliances and home devices. He 00:22:33.049 --> 00:22:36.750 started a shortwave station, WLWO, focused on 00:22:36.750 --> 00:22:39.670 Latin America. He had some products that were 00:22:39.670 --> 00:22:44.390 for areas that typically didn't have reliable 00:22:44.390 --> 00:22:46.730 electricity. So he, for example, he developed 00:22:46.730 --> 00:22:52.029 a thing called the Icy Ball, which was a, looked 00:22:52.029 --> 00:22:57.549 like a copper barbell with a handle on it. And 00:22:57.549 --> 00:23:01.289 the Icy Ball, you could heat one end of the Icy 00:23:01.289 --> 00:23:07.339 Ball, put the other end in an insulated compartment, 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.640 like a refrigeration compartment, and it would 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:16.720 keep food cold. It was based on a chemical reaction 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:21.140 with a solution that was similar to ammonia. 00:23:21.980 --> 00:23:25.480 Ammonia was one of the chemicals in it, and it 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:29.019 was used for refrigeration, again, in areas where 00:23:29.019 --> 00:23:36.509 electricity wasn't prevalent at the time. Was 00:23:36.509 --> 00:23:41.589 very very diversified Building radios building 00:23:41.589 --> 00:23:46.730 appliances Running a radio network and a broadcasting 00:23:46.730 --> 00:23:52.890 operation Owning the Cincinnati Reds With Crosley 00:23:52.890 --> 00:23:57.269 Field at the time So he was quite quite an entrepreneur 00:23:57.269 --> 00:24:00.349 and all this time in the background was his brother 00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:06.319 Lewis who would Sort of hold Powell's feet to 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:09.220 the ground Powell, you know was always running 00:24:09.220 --> 00:24:13.339 off to to develop new ideas new things that would 00:24:13.339 --> 00:24:16.160 generate money but Lewis was the one who made 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:19.539 sure they made money and They were very successful. 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:23.259 I think we have a break coming up. Yeah, we do 00:24:23.259 --> 00:24:27.099 We're just about time for the break and then 00:24:27.099 --> 00:24:32.480 we'll take people's calls so let's Let's kind 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:35.819 of fast forward here to to the exhibit if we 00:24:35.819 --> 00:24:41.180 can real quickly and And talk a little bit about 00:24:41.180 --> 00:24:44.460 this exhibit that's going to open up and that's 00:24:44.460 --> 00:24:50.339 going to celebrate all of Crosley's Feats here, 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:54.619 so Paul so Powell really has never been recognized 00:24:54.619 --> 00:25:00.779 via a collection or a museum he There are there 00:25:00.779 --> 00:25:04.319 are two facilities, one in Sarasota, which was 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:08.220 his home down there, and also the home in suburban 00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:11.740 Cincinnati called Pinecroft. But both of those 00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:15.539 are now what I would call meeting and social 00:25:15.539 --> 00:25:18.559 gathering places for wedding receptions, etc. 00:25:19.019 --> 00:25:22.799 But there's really nothing to celebrate all the 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.220 successes of Crosley. He did leave a legacy of 00:25:26.220 --> 00:25:29.210 buildings throughout Cincinnati and though. one 00:25:29.210 --> 00:25:34.529 of them the home of WCET and WVXU, WGUC, the 00:25:34.529 --> 00:25:41.029 other the Crosley Y. So we've pulled together 00:25:41.029 --> 00:25:47.430 many of the inventions that Powell created. We're 00:25:47.430 --> 00:25:50.990 going to have, I mentioned earlier that he was 00:25:50.990 --> 00:25:54.150 in the automobile business with a factory over 00:25:54.150 --> 00:25:59.099 in Richmond, Indiana, and We have a couple of 00:25:59.099 --> 00:26:03.200 cars that will be on exhibit. We have the shelved 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:07.440 or refrigerator, the shelved or the concept of 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.240 shelves inside the door. There's a very interesting 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:14.720 story we can tell later on on that one. The IC 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:20.279 ball. He has the thing that was called an extra 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:24.640 back. Powell was a bit follic Lee challenged. 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.519 And he thought by putting this helmet on his 00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:31.839 head with a vacuum that he might be able to stimulate 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:36.240 growth of hair. So he had several different versions 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:41.559 of this thing called the XRVAC. He had another 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.579 very unique device way ahead of its time called 00:26:45.579 --> 00:26:52.190 Rideau. Rideau was, think of it as a One way 00:26:52.190 --> 00:26:56.670 fax machine receive only fax machine that would 00:26:56.670 --> 00:27:02.210 tune in to WLW overnight and would deliver on 00:27:02.210 --> 00:27:09.029 a thermo Type paper Thermo fax type paper it 00:27:09.029 --> 00:27:14.190 would deliver your newspaper So WLW overnight 00:27:14.190 --> 00:27:20.250 broadcast analog data that was the local newspaper 00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:25.960 There were two other stations WGN and WOR that 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:31.440 also were equipped and broadcast the Rideau news 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:38.039 that Crosley developed and marketed. So we have 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:39.940 all of those things that are coming together 00:27:39.940 --> 00:27:43.400 in this collection will be on display and we'll 00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:48.099 be able to tell the story of how Crosley and 00:27:48.099 --> 00:27:52.130 the great things that he has done. in the world 00:27:52.130 --> 00:27:56.289 of commercial consumer products. But he also 00:27:56.289 --> 00:28:00.450 did some very unique things to help the country. 00:28:01.549 --> 00:28:03.809 We all know about the VOA, the Voice of America, 00:28:04.089 --> 00:28:09.269 the Bethany Station that was built in 19, started 00:28:09.269 --> 00:28:14.710 in 1942, was dedicated in 1944, but actually 00:28:14.710 --> 00:28:19.150 went on the air in late 43. But there's one other 00:28:19.150 --> 00:28:22.019 thing that few people know about and that's called 00:28:22.019 --> 00:28:26.799 the proximity fuse. In the early days of World 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.059 War Two, many of the artillery shells or the 00:28:30.059 --> 00:28:35.319 shells that were fired by the naval ships did 00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:40.859 not hit their mark. The average strike was about 00:28:40.859 --> 00:28:45.359 one in 10 and it was because the shells got close 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.960 but never actually struck the target and therefore 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:53.000 When they exploded, they didn't do too much damage. 00:28:55.779 --> 00:29:01.720 What Powell's engineers developed was a, think 00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:04.859 of it as a small nose cone that went on the front 00:29:04.859 --> 00:29:09.900 end of a projectile. And in that was a battery 00:29:09.900 --> 00:29:13.819 powered transmitter and receiver that acted sort 00:29:13.819 --> 00:29:18.259 of like radar. And when the shell got close to 00:29:18.259 --> 00:29:21.099 a target, particularly, for example, shooting 00:29:21.099 --> 00:29:24.480 at aircraft, where you have a moving target to 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.279 begin with, and then the shell would just whiz 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.200 right on by, the proximity fuse would sense that 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.960 it was near an object and fire the shell. So 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:38.539 the success rate on hits went from a mere 10 00:29:38.539 --> 00:29:44.920 % to well over 30 % on every shell that was fired. 00:29:45.420 --> 00:29:49.119 by the ships. So the proximity fuse was a real 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:55.079 secret. It was invented and built for the naval 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.940 department, a Navy department at the factory. 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.880 And it's the reason, by the way, that WLW in 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:07.519 1942 was moved out of the factory to 9th and 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.579 Elm in downtown Cincinnati to what became Crosley 00:30:10.579 --> 00:30:14.920 Square, because The Navy didn't want any of those 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:19.799 singers and banjo players and entertainers hanging 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.460 around a factory where top secret work was going 00:30:22.460 --> 00:30:27.720 on. So we happened to have a proximity fuse in 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:31.589 the collection. Very nice. Well, we do need to 00:30:31.589 --> 00:30:34.450 take a break here but we'll come back. 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Call us on voice 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:04.500 with Skype at HamTalk Live or give us a call 00:32:04.500 --> 00:32:11.559 at 812 -NET -HAM -1. That's 812 -638 -4261. Now, 00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:16.779 here's more HamTalk Live. And thanks to Scott 00:32:16.779 --> 00:32:18.839 and Jill at Tower Electronics for sponsoring 00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.660 the show to help bring you HamTalk Live. This 00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:24.259 weekend they're in Peoria, Illinois at the Superfest 00:32:24.259 --> 00:32:26.640 this weekend. And then you can catch them in 00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.359 Cedarburg, Wisconsin, September 23rd and in Belton, 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.539 Texas on October 7th. Or you can give them a 00:32:33.539 --> 00:32:38.819 call at 920 -435 -2973 or visit their website 00:32:38.819 --> 00:32:42.960 at pl -259 .com. Tell them you heard it on HamTalk 00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.019 Live and tell them you want to take advantage 00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:48.819 of the 0 % off sale going on right now. So give 00:32:48.819 --> 00:32:51.619 them a call. Well, it's time for your calls. 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.880 If you have a question about the Voice of America 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.619 Museum or the new Powell -Crosley exhibit, give 00:32:57.619 --> 00:33:02.299 us a call at 812 -NET -HAM -1. That's 812 -638 00:33:02.299 --> 00:33:07.799 -4261. Or you can Skype us or Tweet us at HamTalk 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:11.519 Live. So give us a call right now. We do have 00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.619 time to take a couple of calls this evening. 00:33:14.349 --> 00:33:17.349 And we've got so much stuff to talk about with 00:33:17.349 --> 00:33:20.609 the museum and the history of Crosley and everything 00:33:20.609 --> 00:33:24.970 that we can't cram it all in in 45 minutes. So 00:33:24.970 --> 00:33:27.289 we're going to try to finish up with some of 00:33:27.289 --> 00:33:29.569 the high points here. So give us a call, 812 00:33:29.569 --> 00:33:33.490 -NET -HAM -1 is the number. And while we're waiting 00:33:33.490 --> 00:33:37.009 on that, we do have some news about some changes 00:33:37.009 --> 00:33:39.670 to the hours of the museum. So Gary, why don't 00:33:39.670 --> 00:33:42.869 you take that one and tell us about the good 00:33:42.869 --> 00:33:46.779 news. Well, Neil, as you probably know, and anyone 00:33:46.779 --> 00:33:51.019 that has tried to visit the museum knows, we've 00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:55.640 only been open one Saturday a month. And that's 00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:57.900 still the situation we're in. But beginning in 00:33:57.900 --> 00:34:02.599 October, on October 7th, we do plan to be open 00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.940 every Saturday and Sunday. And we hope to continue 00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:10.760 to do that until next summer. And if we've got 00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.199 the arms and legs and things are working out, 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.599 Hopefully we will be open two or three days during 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.219 the week as well. So, you know, I know a lot 00:34:20.219 --> 00:34:22.179 of folks have said, geez, we'd like to come see 00:34:22.179 --> 00:34:24.619 you, but it's awfully tough to get it scheduled. 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:26.739 So we're trying to make that a little bit easier. 00:34:27.340 --> 00:34:31.300 Yeah, that's great news and I know for me it 00:34:31.300 --> 00:34:34.440 was hard to make sure that I had that scheduled 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:38.199 in and fortunately with the summers I was able 00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:42.719 to do it a few times but that's great news that 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:46.760 will be open every Saturday and Sunday starting 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:51.869 in October. That's great news. Well if you have 00:34:51.869 --> 00:34:56.690 a question, give us a call. 812 -638 -4261 is 00:34:56.690 --> 00:35:00.869 the telephone number to call. Give us a call 00:35:00.869 --> 00:35:04.969 and we can talk about some stuff. We've got the 00:35:04.969 --> 00:35:08.250 WC8VOA station that's also been getting some 00:35:08.250 --> 00:35:10.889 upgrades. We may talk about that here in a minute. 00:35:12.619 --> 00:35:15.780 You know, the Crosley exhibit is going to be 00:35:15.780 --> 00:35:19.780 open. That's the new thing. And Jay told us all 00:35:19.780 --> 00:35:24.739 about that and how WLW, the big one, came about 00:35:24.739 --> 00:35:30.800 and has worked too with building the Voice of 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.400 America station there in Mason. So give us a 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:41.119 call, 812 -NET -HAM -1 is the number. Until then, 00:35:41.260 --> 00:35:43.579 Gary, why don't you tell us a little bit about 00:35:43.579 --> 00:35:45.739 the club station. I know you've got a new repeater 00:35:45.739 --> 00:35:49.960 up, you've got some new rigs, you've got a 7300 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:54.960 now and an SDR that you can operate remotely 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.579 and all kinds of stuff. So tell us about some 00:35:57.579 --> 00:36:02.119 of the upgrades to WCHVOA at the museum. Yeah, 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.760 we're very excited, Neil, and I know you've been 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:09.170 there and operated. really different when you're 00:36:09.170 --> 00:36:11.829 there. It's kind of like B and DX, you know, 00:36:11.829 --> 00:36:14.610 so we're looking for folks to come and operate 00:36:14.610 --> 00:36:17.630 this equipment. But one of the things that has 00:36:17.630 --> 00:36:20.690 happened over the last year or so, we have had 00:36:20.690 --> 00:36:24.469 to reconfigure the antennas to accommodate a 00:36:24.469 --> 00:36:27.909 new handicap accessible building entrance and 00:36:27.909 --> 00:36:30.550 a parking area. And as a matter of fact, the 00:36:30.550 --> 00:36:33.489 event that we're holding is going to be outside 00:36:33.489 --> 00:36:38.090 with a tent on the new parking area. But with 00:36:38.090 --> 00:36:42.550 the reconfiguration, we now have two tri -banders 00:36:42.550 --> 00:36:47.849 and an R7 vertical and a fan dipole for 80, 40 00:36:47.849 --> 00:36:52.869 and 17 and a 75 meter dipole, 40 meter dipole, 00:36:53.550 --> 00:36:56.429 160 meter dipole, 6 meter beam and 2 meter beam. 00:36:56.530 --> 00:36:59.230 So we've got most of the bands covered from HF 00:36:59.230 --> 00:37:06.440 up to VHF. and we now have seven operating positions 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:12.420 in the WC8VOA station and the newest one is the 00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:16.960 IC7300 that you mentioned and we've got an ALS1306 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.780 amp that goes with that and then we've also got 00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:25.219 an IC9100 with an ALS600 amp and a TS590S with 00:37:25.219 --> 00:37:27.980 a Henry 2K classic amp for you guys that are 00:37:27.980 --> 00:37:34.059 into classic tube amps. FT450 digital rig, a 00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:37.059 beginner's rig, and then we've got an IC746 Pro, 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:41.260 which we use for CW and VHF and UHF. And then 00:37:41.260 --> 00:37:43.840 we do have a couple of vintage rigs. We have 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:48.179 an FT101e that was donated to us by Yezu. It 00:37:48.179 --> 00:37:53.139 was the last FT101 to come off of the service 00:37:53.139 --> 00:37:56.699 line in California before they shut that down. 00:37:56.780 --> 00:37:59.480 So it's really great to hear the audio out of 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:03.610 that rig, too. And we also have a TS520 rig and 00:38:03.610 --> 00:38:05.730 some others we're going to rotate through there. 00:38:06.590 --> 00:38:09.969 But we also have something that you can kind 00:38:09.969 --> 00:38:15.630 of get involved in from home. Andy Crew, NDAD, 00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:23.349 or NDAD, I'm sorry, has installed an SDR radio 00:38:23.349 --> 00:38:28.230 at VOA. And you can actually access that radio 00:38:30.010 --> 00:38:34.230 through the wc8voa .org website get in there 00:38:34.230 --> 00:38:36.949 and you can see where to click to get into the 00:38:36.949 --> 00:38:40.190 receiver and it's kind of interesting we had 00:38:41.380 --> 00:38:47.000 Chris and Jocelyn, ChrisKD8YVJ and JocelynKD8VRX 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.420 took part in the Youth DX adventure to Costa 00:38:50.420 --> 00:38:53.719 Rica, and they actually used the SDR to monitor 00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:57.739 their signals out of Costa Rica to see how propagation 00:38:57.739 --> 00:39:00.139 was to the Midwest, so I thought that was a pretty 00:39:00.139 --> 00:39:05.829 cool thing to do. And the other thing that we've 00:39:05.829 --> 00:39:07.969 got new that's right there at VOA, we've got 00:39:07.969 --> 00:39:12.369 a low profile 440 MHz repeater we've put on the 00:39:12.369 --> 00:39:14.349 air, and there's quite a bit of information about 00:39:14.349 --> 00:39:18.500 that on the website as well. if anyone is interested. 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.840 You know, we've had the repeater on 145 .39 for 00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.880 several years, but this is something we put on 00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.179 the air to kind of play with some new digital 00:39:28.179 --> 00:39:32.699 things. Both of our repeaters are Fusion digital 00:39:32.699 --> 00:39:36.260 repeaters, but we haven't done as much as we 00:39:36.260 --> 00:39:38.079 thought we would when we got them, so we're trying 00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:44.300 to change that. And I don't know, Neil, what 00:39:44.300 --> 00:39:46.900 else did you want to hear about? Oh, I think 00:39:46.900 --> 00:39:51.619 we hit everything there. and you mentioned the 00:39:51.619 --> 00:39:58.579 website wc8voa .org and then you've got voamuseum 00:39:58.579 --> 00:40:02.260 .org for the museum for information about that 00:40:02.260 --> 00:40:05.960 and over on the VOA site I know you can sign 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:09.019 up for an email list. I'm on that and get some 00:40:09.019 --> 00:40:12.400 information from the museum from time to time 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:16.460 and what's happening there. So check that out 00:40:16.460 --> 00:40:21.320 and you can try out the the SDR from there and 00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:26.480 listen to some stuff from the Voice of America 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:30.760 Museum of Broadcasting. So if you want to call 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.440 us, you're just about out of time. So give us 00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:39.940 a call. It's 812 -638 -4261. 812 -NET -HAM -1 00:40:39.940 --> 00:40:42.179 for the calls. We just have a couple of minutes 00:40:42.179 --> 00:40:45.760 remaining. uh... give us a call but uh... didn't 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.380 want through those uh... websites in there and 00:40:48.380 --> 00:40:51.340 again uh... the big celebration is september 00:40:51.340 --> 00:40:55.199 twenty third saturday september twenty third 00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:58.239 and uh... that starts uh... at six o 'clock in 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.539 the evening so uh... the special event station 00:41:00.539 --> 00:41:03.699 will be on during the day leading up to that 00:41:03.699 --> 00:41:09.760 and uh... You can You can check all of that out 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:17.000 on the air. So be looking in the spots for WC8VOA 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:19.739 All right. Well, yeah, we're just down to the 00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:24.500 last two minutes here. So Anything else Jay that 00:41:24.500 --> 00:41:27.559 that you want to throw in there? Sure, there 00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.139 is one other thing that Gary didn't mention on 00:41:30.139 --> 00:41:33.929 the club station and that is that We're looking 00:41:33.929 --> 00:41:38.469 at developing a rhombic antenna for the club. 00:41:40.170 --> 00:41:43.769 The 24 original antennas that were located out 00:41:43.769 --> 00:41:50.409 at the VOA were all rhombics and we are planning 00:41:50.409 --> 00:41:55.769 a rhombic antenna that would replicate the type 00:41:55.769 --> 00:41:59.130 of antenna structure that the VOA operated with. 00:41:59.190 --> 00:42:03.360 This antenna would be northeast southwest pattern. 00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.079 And there's actually starting, I guess tomorrow, 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.039 Gary, tomorrow and Saturday, they're going to 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.360 be erecting a test version of the antenna and 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.960 doing some some testing and checking out the 00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:26.719 effectiveness of the antenna. You still there, 00:42:26.820 --> 00:42:31.889 Gary? Yes. I'm sorry, you pretty well covered 00:42:31.889 --> 00:42:33.690 it Jay, you know, that is what we're planning 00:42:33.690 --> 00:42:38.570 on doing and hopefully after we get a little 00:42:38.570 --> 00:42:41.570 more experience with this, we'll be able to put 00:42:41.570 --> 00:42:46.409 up a permanent antenna. But we're looking at 00:42:46.409 --> 00:42:49.989 it. We're developing a display, but we're also 00:42:49.989 --> 00:42:53.050 looking at it as a real good learning activity 00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:56.929 for people in the club. And one of the things 00:42:56.929 --> 00:43:00.530 I did want to mention, Neil, with these expanded 00:43:00.530 --> 00:43:03.469 hours, we're looking for volunteers. We need 00:43:03.469 --> 00:43:07.809 people to be docents and people to help us in 00:43:07.809 --> 00:43:09.949 the ham station, come in and operate the ham 00:43:09.949 --> 00:43:13.510 station and welcome people in. So anybody that's 00:43:13.510 --> 00:43:16.170 in the Cincinnati area, Cincinnati Dayton area, 00:43:16.659 --> 00:43:19.420 or if you'd like to spend a weekend in Cincinnati 00:43:19.420 --> 00:43:21.400 every now and then, we'd love to have you sign 00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:24.780 up and you can get information on that on the 00:43:24.780 --> 00:43:28.679 voamuseum .org website as well. Yeah, I'm gonna 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:32.019 need some volunteers to take care of that so 00:43:32.019 --> 00:43:35.880 That'd be be great. I may have to take you up 00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.300 on that at some point, too So we'll maybe in 00:43:39.300 --> 00:43:41.280 the summer rule. We'll see how that goes. Well 00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:44.599 guys, we're out of time again but thanks for 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.119 coming on and sharing with us about everything 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:51.480 happening next weekend and All the things that 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:57.170 are being added to the museum It's been a pleasure, 00:43:57.510 --> 00:44:01.929 Neil. Thank you, Neil. Yep. Always good to see 00:44:01.929 --> 00:44:05.750 you guys and talk with you and appreciate you 00:44:05.750 --> 00:44:08.309 coming on the show. So that is a wrap for this 00:44:08.309 --> 00:44:10.929 week's edition of HamTalk Live. Again, thanks 00:44:10.929 --> 00:44:15.909 to Gary West, K8DEV, and Jay Adrick, K8CJY, and 00:44:15.909 --> 00:44:18.789 everybody out there in cyberspace for listening 00:44:18.789 --> 00:44:22.539 in. And next Thursday night at 9 p .m. uh... 00:44:22.539 --> 00:44:25.800 eastern time scott westerman w nine w s w will 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:29.019 be here to talk about ham radio public relations 00:44:29.019 --> 00:44:33.219 and the great lakes ham con up in uh... michigan 00:44:33.219 --> 00:44:36.019 so for a list of all of our upcoming guests just 00:44:36.019 --> 00:44:39.219 go over to ham talk live dot com so for now this 00:44:39.219 --> 00:44:43.039 is neil rap w b nine v p g saying seven three 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:48.019 and seven five and may the good the x be yours 00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.739 Well you came right back to my secure call