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83 the handy hands recorded live on Thursday
September 28th 2017 I'm your host Neil rap WB
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ham talk live tonight We're joined by Lucinda
moody a b8wf from the courage Kenny handy ham
program and we'll talk about how they bring ham
radio to people with disabilities and some of
the resources they have and we'll take your questions
by telephone and by Skype live in just a few
minutes. Well last week here on the show Scott
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State and was talking about public relations
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talk to Lucinda, just wanted to say godspeed
to the The crew of 50 ham radio volunteers that
just arrived in Puerto Rico a few hours ago to
help the American Red Cross with disaster communications
over there. And our prayers are with all of the
victims of the recent hurricanes and those who
are volunteering to help bring things back to
some kind of order. So, you know, Val's over
there and Andy's over there and some others.
And so. We want to have a safe trip for them
and hope to hear them and they can do some good
work and get home soon. So keep them in your
prayers and hopefully they can do a lot of good
over there in Puerto Rico and they've been getting
a lot of press coverage lately with that too.
So be sure to watch. social media and some of
the websites The latest updates health and where
far well, yeah, if I could talk health and welfare
traffic has been pretty busy and so There's some
suggested ways to do that and some ways that
you can help so keep an eye on that and And give
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on June 26th, Lucinda Moody, AB8WF, became the
program coordinator for the Courage Kenny Handy
Ham program, taking over for Patrick Tice, who
retired after 25 years of service. Lucinda holds
an extra class amateur radio license and has
been a Handy Ham volunteer since 2011. She has
served as an instructor at several radio camps
and worked with Handy Ham members online. Outside
of the Handy Ham program, she served as a volunteer
coordinator for local Salvation Army Emergency.
disaster services, including incident command,
communication specialist, recruitment, and training
of volunteers. And this year, Handy Hams is celebrating
their 50th anniversary. So we want to talk about
that a little bit. And, and she let the choir
out early tonight to be on the show. So we appreciate
that. And Lucinda, welcome. Well, thank you.
I don't know if the choir is happy or sad about
getting out early, but thankfully they worked
with me. Yeah. Yeah, we're trying to schedule
it and was like, well, we got choir practice
started. We got to do that. So thank you for
rearranging things a little bit to come on the
show. So 50 years of service. So tell us how
this all got started. Well, 50 years ago, so
1967, if you can believe that, Ned Carmen, he
was W0ZSW, and that is a call sign that the Handy
Ham Club still has, was working with people in
Rochester who had disabilities. And he realized
something was missing. Yes, there was lots of
services for people with disabilities, but there
wasn't things that involved a social hobby. That's
the part that was not there. And so he realized
amateur radio would work. Amateur radio would
allow people to be identified by a call sign
instead of disability. And so he enlisted the
Sisters of St. Francis to help him out, and that
included Sister Alverna. Lots of people who know
the history of the program know her. She was
W -A -0 -S -G -I. And she was the former, one
of the former education coordinators for the
Handy Hand Program. So, you know, it kind of
started Rochester. It seemed like it was just
going to be a little program and word started
spreading. And, you know, some of the things
that you think are going to be little don't stay
that way. And the Handy Hand Program was one
of them. quickly got bigger than they could handle.
They didn't have the infrastructure to deal with
what was happening. And so they sought help from
the Minnesota Society for Crippled Children and
Adults, and that's what later became Courage
Center. And at that point, they just helped with
money and equipment, kind of giving a little
bit of help in the background. But As the Handyham
program spread not just in Minnesota and Iowa
and Wisconsin area but throughout the Midwest
and then throughout the world, it was clear they
needed a whole lot more help and that's where
it became an official Courage Center program.
And so the Minnesota Handyham system, which is
what it was known as back then, merged with Courage
Center. how it got to where it is now. In 2013,
Courage Center then merged with Sister Kenny
Rehabilitation Institute. The two had worked
together quite a bit over the years, so this
was a natural merger to take place. And then
because Alaina Health already had a relationship
with Sister Kenny Rehabilitation Institute, the
hand -to -hand program essentially then became
part of Alaina Health. So currently we're housed
under the assistive technology department, which
is a really great fit with amateur radio because
when we need assistance in making amateur radio
technology available to people with specific
disabilities, they're the right people to help.
Very good. I've remembered Handy Ham since I
was a kid. We had some people who were blind
and wanted to get into ham radio and so we modified
some of the Morse code testing and helped some
of those people become licensed and Handy Hams
was there to give some assistance and just a
couple of years ago right here in Bloomington
we had someone that needed some assistance like
that and was able to get a radio and get some
help. So it's been a great 50 years of assistance
and it's grown and so now you're actually under
like a medical group then. Is that what Alina
Health is? Yes, Alina Health runs hospitals and
clinics throughout Minnesota and western Wisconsin.
So it's quite a big organization which is nice
because we can kind of lean on them for some
assistance as well. Very good. Well, tell us
what kinds of services you have for people with
different disabilities and what you all do. Well,
interestingly enough, with just coming out, I've
been doing interviews and talking with members
to find out what they wanted because the program
was basically in limbo for about 18 months between
when the previous person retired and I came on.
And the most popular thing is the weekly e -letter,
which is also made into a podcast. People really
look forward to that. We provide that to anyone
who requests. You do not have to be a member
to get that. What we do have also is a large
section in our website that is members only.
And there we're able to put Things like training
materials, tutorials, things that will help people
get their license, develop operating skills,
that kind of thing. One of the big things is
that about two thirds of our members are blind
or visually impaired. So our website is really
aimed at being accessible for them. While we
serve people with any type of disability, we
kind of have a niche market there because there
aren't a lot of other resources for people who
are blind. So we have everything recorded. We
have pictures described. Our tutorials, we try
to have members that are blind do those because
Somebody who has lived it will do a better job
at making a tutorial for somebody else who is
living that experience and making that available
to people. Also, there's a email list for members
who choose to be part of the Handy Hand Radio
Club where they can talk to each other and say,
hey, you know, this radio is accessible or this
radio, if you do this, you can make this modification
and now this will work and that kind of thing
where people can help each other. We do offer
license class study materials for technician,
general, and extra. We cover a lot of different
topics in operating skills. And we run a daily
net, actually sponsored by the Hindiham Radio
Club. And the purpose there is to give people
an opportunity to get experience on the air.
In a safe environment, we don't run a highly
structured net or one that's meant to be intimidating
to people. We want people to feel welcome and
enjoy being social on it. That's, like I said
earlier, an important thing for people with disabilities.
We refer people to local clubs, helping them
find clubs in their area that they may not be
aware of. And one of the things that we're working
on bringing back is radio camp. That's very popular
with a lot of different members. And it serves
an important part of giving us the chance to
have one -on -one assistance for people. That
chance for people to get their hands on a radio
that maybe they were thinking about but they're
not really sure and have a chance to try it out.
A chance to learn some on -air skills with somebody
right there to help you. And so we're working
on bringing that back hopefully next year. I
get a lot of requests every week about, are you
bringing Radio Camp back? So we're working on
it. The equipment loan program, again, we're
having to kind of reinvent that. Years ago when
the Handy Hand Program had five staff, we could
have that all in -house. And now it's me and
Nancy, our secretary, and there's only so many
hours in a week. We can only get so much done.
So working on getting the equipment loan program
back up and running, but using multiple volunteers
in multiple locations so that we can still serve
members and get them what they need and also
provide a place for people that want to donate
their old equipment. Okay, very good. Now, I'm
presuming, you know, with your visually impaired,
you're looking for radios that have some kind
of definite feel to them. more knobs and less
buttons and has that frequency readout that will
tell you what frequency you're on and speak it
rather than just a display. Do you have a list
of radios that are more accessible to those people?
We kind of know. At this point, Kenwood has basically
the most accessible radios of any of the manufacturers.
We're hoping to get some of the others on board.
We'd really like to see that. Obviously, a touchscreen
radio doesn't work that well for a person who's
blind, but there are some adaptive equipment
that we can get for them. So there's still even
some options there. It's been interesting to
see some of these new cheaper radios are actually
decently accessible. But then I will tell you
the latest and greatest HT out of Kenwood is
the most accessible thing I've ever seen. You
can power it up. If you hold the pound key down
and you power it up, it comes up talking. I tell
people, if you have an option, that's a great
radio to get if you're visually impaired. And
obviously, we have people with other disabilities,
and that's where sometimes we come up with things
like adaptive switches that they can access,
things like sip and puff keyers to allow people
to do Morse code where they aren't able to use
their hands. We had one guy years ago that sent
Morse code with his foot, and a very large cure
was made that he could use with his foot. So
there you go. Yeah, great. Well, let's tell people
how to get in touch with you if they have a need.
or need to be referred to the program, or if
they want to refer someone or maybe donate equipment,
let's tell them how to do that. Well, you can
always phone the program. You can reach us at
612 -775 - That'll get you to Nancy who can then
pass you on to me if necessary or some of the
stuff she can just handle as far as donations,
getting people set up with a membership, that
kind of thing. Membership in the program is extremely
affordable at $12 a year. You just can't beat
it. And we've done that to make it affordable
for people with disabilities because we don't
want people to be left out. You can always reach
me via email at lucinda .moody at alina .com.
Alina is A -L -L -I -N -A. We get packages in
the mail, so I'll give you the mailing address
because people just package up equipment and
send it, so it does happen. Our mail route is
78446, and if you don't put that on there, the
packages go somewhere in a line, but don't get
to us very quickly. But our address is 3915 Golden
Valley Road in Golden Valley, Minnesota, and
our zip is 55422. Okay, and you said the website
has a members -only portion and a public portion,
correct? Correct. You can always, anyone can
go to Hanneham .org and check out the public
portion. There's all of our e -letters are up
there and announcements for people and whatnot
you'll find there. But when you want to get into
things like the study materials and that kind
of thing, then you need a membership so that
you can get into the members only section. Okay,
very good. And then how can hams help? You mentioned,
you know, donating equipment. And you're looking
for some of that that you can make use of one
way or another. But are there other ways that
hams can can volunteer and help your organization?
Well, one of the things is get your local club
to become a handy him affiliate. That means that
we know that we can refer our members to your
club. You have people in your club that are willing
to Elmer people and take the time, have the patience
to work with people who have different abilities,
maybe need different type of assistance than
they're used to giving to someone. So we're looking
for that, kind of spreading that out so that
lots of people can be there to help. Also with
volunteering, putting together things like a
radio camp or dealing with donated equipment,
we need lots of people that like to play with
donated equipment or maybe even make a trip to
radio camp and come and help us out for a week.
So there's also, in volunteering, we need people
to read materials that'll be put on the members
only section of the website, so if you got a
good voice and you like to record yourself, we
got a job for you. We can always use you as a
volunteer. So and of course, you know if you
got money that you just don't know what to do
with we take that too. Yeah I would presume that
you would so that's good deal. All right. Well
there you you've got a snapshot of what Handy
Hams does and by the way, that's h -a -n -d -i
-h -a -m Handy Ham and that's dot -com, right?
Handyham .org is our website. OK, very good.
Well, you can check that out and get some more
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-1 Well while we're waiting on some of those
calls and tweets to come in I noticed on your
website that you do have some remote stations
available and a lot of times you know, people
may not be able to have antennas where they are
living and have some of those challenges and
so the remotes can overcome some of those challenges.
So why don't you tell us a little bit about the
remotes that you have available? Well, right
now we're running two remote base stations. One
is located physically in Woodbury, Minnesota.
And the other one's up north near Lake George,
actually. And like you said, we have a lot of
members that have had to move into locations
where antennas aren't an option. And so the idea
is to come up with something beyond things like
EchoLink, where someone can actually operate
HF but with the equipment in another location.
Right now the stations unfortunately have limited
accessibility for people that are blind. The
software that we're using isn't as accessible
as we'd like. So we're working on figuring out
how to address that and also looking to test
out some other remote -based equipment that might
be more accessible just to find out. When I moved
here, I left a beautiful antenna farm in Michigan,
which is really a sad thing, and moved into an
apartment out here. So I am working to set up
a remote base there to test out some other equipment
and see what might be maybe more accessible,
see if we can come up with something. And it
may be that in the end, we actually offer more
than one type of remote base for our members
so that we have the different types that are
more appropriate for different individuals. All
right, very good. So you've got a chance to to
do that so even you know people that are in a
nursing home or an assisted living facility and
they can't Get antennas or you know an apartment
or something that where the antennas aren't possible
you then you've got this option for them, so
some great options there and hopefully you can
can keep improving on all of that. The number
again is 812 -NET -HAM -1 812 -638 -4261. Please
give us a call or Skype us or tweet us and ask
your questions about Handy Hams or if you know
of a situation where there's some assistance
needed uh... and there's something you wanna
ask about that why uh... give us a call and we'll
uh... we'll see what we can uh... come up with
here uh... again that number is eight one two
six three eight four two six one well you mentioned
the the e uh... letter uh... that uh... comes
out once a week and and then uh... you have that
converted into a podcast and and we we we do
that podcast thing too not only are we live but
we do uh... do a podcast, so tell us about the
podcast and where people can listen to that.
Well, actually, if you go to the weekly e -letter,
there's always a link to the podcast and you
can also use your favorite podcast catcher to
be able to sign up for that to show up automatically.
We're still getting some of the technical stuff
figured out. Right now, the former coordinator
for the Handy Hand Program is still having to
put the stuff up because everything is associated
with an email account of his, so we're still
working on getting that all moved over where
I can have access to it, but he's taking care
of that right now. In the meantime, while we
get that all, we'll get the logistics of that
figured out. Yeah, sometimes the podcast has
some things that aren't in the weekly e -letter
and vice versa. So if you listen and read, you'll
find that I refer to things that either are or
aren't in one or the other. So you get to hear
about it. And for some reason, whatever, some
people just don't want to read it themselves.
They want me to read it to them. So I guess they
want to make me work. Well the the podcast version
is always nice because you can listen to it anytime
and you can just set it up to automatically download
and and then whenever you You have the time you
can you can pop that up and that's what most
of our listeners do Is they actually listen to
the show? Sometimes two three four weeks later
and they can do that automatically on on all
those podcasts It's a good option, and if it's
not live and timely and that kind of thing, it's
a really good option for getting information
out. So we appreciate all of our podcast listeners,
too. And I'm glad to hear that you have that
option available, and that's starting to really
take off. So I'm glad you have that. Okay, again,
the phone number is 812 -638 -4261, 812 -Netham1,
and give us a call or tweet. And we do have a
question here from Carl, KD9HQT, on the chat
and says, has Handy Ham's worked with individuals
with developmental disabilities, such as autism?
since anybody within the US can be an operator
regardless of disability and their interest toward
ham radio if they have the capability to get
on the air. So any developmental type things
like autism? Absolutely. Interestingly enough,
some people with autism do really well on digital
modes. That seems to be something that really
piques their interest. You do have to adjust
how you teach for that to work with their basically
work with the way that they need to learn. And
that's one of the things that we have the ability
to do within the program is to adjust things
to teach it in the way that needs to be done
for a specific individual. In particular at camp
we often will pair people one on one In some
cases, people with autism do really well simply
working with a question pool, and then once they've
got that, then we can pair them with somebody
to begin to get some understanding of the technology.
So you have to take people and kind of assess
where they're at, what they want to do, where
their interest lies, and then use that to figure
out what area of amateur radio would fit best.
One of the nice things about amateur radio is
it's a really broad hobby. There's lots of different
things that you can do in it, and usually there's
something that'll work. All right, very good.
Well, Carl, thanks for sending that question
in, Katie9HQT. We can get you some more information
on that if you need that. There are some things
available from Handy Ham. So again, check them
out at handyham .org, H -A -N -D -I -H -A -M
dot O -R -G. And Lucinda Moody, 88WF, is our
guest tonight. let the choir out a little early
to be with us. So we appreciate that. We've got
time for another call or two maybe. So again
812 -638 -4261. It spells 812 Net Ham 1. If you
have a question for us or give us a tweet or
if you're on Spreaker you can get on the chat
like Carl did. and text something to us there.
So let's hear from you. And there's a lot of
things that can be done. You mentioned the keyer
with the foot. I remember Helping a ham again
as a child growing up that you know didn't have
much control with his arms and used his foot
just as a like a straight key and just had a
strap on there and slide the shoe in and and
and send and That really enjoyed code even though
You know it had to be adapted a little bit really
enjoyed working CW and doing that and again,
you know using the The adaptive technologies
like the voice synthesizer and and knobs that
have some you know positions to them and you
know, things that you can remember and set really
made a big difference. And so, handy hams can
help you figure that out as well. And I know
the camps are real popular. I've heard about
those for a long time. And why don't you kind
of talk us through what maybe a typical day at
camp would be? Well, it's probably a little different
than the camp she went to as a kid because we
start out in the morning. If you're at Courage
North, you usually start out in the dining hall
first thing in the morning with coffee and chit
chat with everybody. It's kind of the place together
early in the morning while you wait for breakfast.
And once breakfast is over, classes start. And
depending on if you're studying for a license
exam, then there will be an intense review that
goes on during that week. You are expected to
come to camp having already studied because we
can't possibly teach you everything in a week.
But we do reviews offering people the ability
to get their hands on stuff that helps them understand
the concepts. behind amateur radio, what makes
things work and that kind of thing so that you're
not just memorizing answers and actually developing
the ability to understand. And then if you say
already have whatever license you want and you
want to get on the air, we're going to have a
class for that. And you may go into a classroom
where you work on Getting on the air talking
to as many stations as possible Practice calling
CQ and see how fast you can build a pile up that
kind of thing And then for people that are interested
in something else we there will be classes on
things like digital modes Maybe building an antenna
for direction finding Because by the way there
there is a direction finding for people who are
blind or visually impaired And it also can be
a handy skill to have in that situation. It's
actually saved a few of our members. So you may
get into something like antenna building. You
may get into something like kit building, maybe
even a lecture on more advanced antenna theory,
that kind of thing. So depending on where you're
at depends on what class you go to. And you're
going to basically be in class to lunch. And
then after lunch, that's usually when our volunteers
have a break. We'll try to have a couple of volunteers
paired with a radio so if there's somebody that
wants to get on during break, they can. Other
than that, the rest of the volunteers get a couple
hours off to rejuvenate before the afternoon
classes start. And in the meantime, there's usually
some camp activities. You may go out on the water
and operate the radio on a pontoon boat. You
might have a chance to just get out and do a
little bit with the camp staff, the non -amateur
radio staff. And then somewhere at 3, 3 .30,
you're back at it in the classroom. So you're
there till suppertime. And then after supper,
we tend to do things like jam sessions. We have
some pretty good musicians in the hand -ham group.
And we always encourage people to bring their
instruments to radio camp. And so we'll get some
pretty good jam sessions going. Usually we try
to have a couple volunteers available so people
can get on radios if they need assistance there
and kind of get a chance to relax a little bit
in the evening before the next morning you start
it all over again. So it's a little different
in that you do a bunch of work but people tend
to have the time of their life. Very good. Sounds
like a very... rewarding experience and hope
that you're able to bring that back soon. Well,
Lucinda, that's going to be it for tonight, but
thank you so much for taking the time to come
on and talk to us about Andy Hams. Well, one
other thing, I guess, real quick before we go,
do you have any big plans for the 50th anniversary
celebration? Well, right now, we've kind of been
limited. Normally, we would have had a very large
radio camp, but seeing as how I just came on
this summer, we were way too late to do that.
So we're working on celebrating 50 and year 51.
And we've been doing a lot in our e -letter,
just kind of going back into the archives of
the program, letting people read articles that
are 20, 30, 40 years old. And that's been kind
of fun, too. And hopefully, In the next six months,
we're going to roll out a whole new website.
So we'll get some stuff in there for the 50th.
All right. Very good. Well, thank you so much
for coming on and telling us all about Handy
Hams and the services that are available. And
again, if you want to check that out, that's
H -A -N -D -I -H -A -M dot org. And you can get
a hold of the staff there. and get some some
assistance for some of these things so thank
you for coming on and that is a wrap for this
week's edition of ham talk live so thanks to
lucinda moody ab8wf and everybody out there in
cyberspace for listening and to carl for chatting
in this evening and invite you back next Thursday
night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. Christian Kudnick
K0STH, the host of 100 Watts and a Wire will
be here and he's going to talk about Fallout
2. It's the sequel. the second year of the fallout
activity on the air. So that's coming up next
weekend. So we'll be talking about that and talk
to Christian a little bit and take your calls.
So be sure to tune in for that next Thursday
night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. And for a list
of all of our upcoming guests, be sure to visit
HamTalkLive .com. So for now, this is Neil Rapp,
WB9V. saying seven three seven five and may the
good DX be yours. I completely forgot you're
a ham I don't know your power or the height of
your tower