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pl -259 .com. it's time for another edition of

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HamTalk Live. This is episode number 85, the

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Johnson Space Center Amateur Radio Club anniversary

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and special event station recorded live on Thursday,

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October 12th, 2017. I'm your host, Neil Rapp,

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WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning in to this episode

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of HamTalk Live. Tonight we're joined by Ken

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Goodwin K5RG and we'll take your calls live in

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just a few minutes. Well on the show last week

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was Christian Kudnick K0STH here to talk about

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the 100 watts at a wire fallout and hopefully

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you had a chance to get on the air last weekend.

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I was able to make just a handful of contacts

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on that. But if you missed the show, you can

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listen anytime. It was a lot of fun. It was over

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at hamptalklive .com. And you can also catch

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there. So after a while, we'll give you a chance

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to ask your questions. After we talk to Ken for

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a while and do the interview, you can call us.

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Let me go ahead and give you the telephone number.

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Now we're not ready for your calls just yet,

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but we will be soon. And that telephone number

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And we're on the air every Thursday night at

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.com and check out Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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We have some stuff up there through the week

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as well. Before I talk to Ken tonight, I do have

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one important note about School Club Roundup

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next week from Lou into our cube. The next session

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of Schoolcrub Roundup begins on Monday and on

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20 meters, there's a lot of formal and informal

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traffic being passed for hurricane relief and

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a lot of that is around 14 .250 and 14 .275 which

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is right where the schools usually operate. That's

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kind of the recommended area is 14 -250 to 14

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-280. There's also some stuff up on 40 meters

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but it's down at 7182 and 7188. So the recommended

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frequencies are a little higher for School Club

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Roundup, but the organizers of School Club Roundup

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wanted to make sure that we didn't unintentionally

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interfere with any weak signals that couldn't

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be heard. Um, you know how that goes. Sometimes

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you get on a frequency and you ask if it's in

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use two or three times and you don't hear anything.

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And then all of a sudden, Hey, wait a minute.

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There's these people on here trying to pass traffic.

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So, um, this, uh, time only, uh, we're going

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to shift those frequencies around. So if you're

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running school club round up next week, look

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for schools just above. below the normal frequencies

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of 14 .250 to 14 .280 and the other bands shouldn't

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be affected a whole lot but we want to make sure

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that that word gets out and that we don't cause

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any unintentional interference to those stations

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so be sure to listen first as always and If we

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are on one of those, then we need to move so

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that we can get out of the way. So just wanted

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to mention that and I'll be on from my high school

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with my group. The kids will be on the microphone

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next week. So just wanted to remind everybody

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about School Club Roundup and about the change

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in the frequencies. So help pass the word on

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that. Well tonight our guest is Ken Goodwin,

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K5RG. He was introduced in the hobby in 1955

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in San Juan, Puerto Rico by Father Ed Turner,

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KP4WN and KV4BQ and he was first licensed as

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K1ONW in 1960 as a technician and in 1963 the

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family moved to Boston where Ken became an active

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participant in the Eastern Massachusetts Net

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and the one RN while attending Tufts University.

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W1KN to become an electrical engineer. After

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undergrad, he moved to Texas to work in the space

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program in 1968 with the MIT instrumentation

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lab and Dr. Draper's lab. He became an extra

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class later and picked his current call sign

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of K5RG. He's a life member of ARL, QCWA, and

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the OOTC and a member of an officer of the NASA

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Johnson Space Center Amateur Radio Club, W5RRR,

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the Diamond Club of the ARRL, the A1 Operator

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Club, BPL and Tapper. And he also has a general

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class radio telephone license with endorsements

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and ship radar and radio telegraph. And I found

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out the other day that he was the Puerto Rico

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national yo -yo champion. So we may have to talk

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about that if we have some time later on. Currently

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Ken is the treasurer of W5RRR, the Johnson Space

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Center Amateur Radio Club in Houston, Texas.

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So Ken, welcome to HamTalk Live tonight. Well,

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nice meeting you, Neil, in the audio domain,

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as they say. And congratulations on the Yo -Yo

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Championship. Now, I was... cruising the website

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and and and all of a sudden here comes this trivia

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question and it was the yo -yo championship so

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i'm impressed well only only my closest friends

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usually know about that but uh i i prefer to

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say it was the same time i got interested in

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amateur radio too well i should mention that

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One of the young hams from my hometown club in

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Vincennes, Indiana was Tanner Jones, W9TWJ. And

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now he's all grown up and now he's in the club

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down there. So there was a little connection

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there. And he's currently the webmaster and QSL

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manager of the club. So he's the one that contacted

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me about doing the show. So I'm glad. it all

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worked out and we can talk about this uh special

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event coming up soon and and if you don't get

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enough space tonight and and one of NASA's little

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at least promotions uh slogans is is i need my

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space so if you need your space um December 7th,

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we're going to have Dr. Rob Suggs, KB5EZ, to

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talk about a year -long special event that's

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at all of the NASA facilities. But tonight, we're

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just talking about the Johnson Space Center in

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Houston, Texas. They've got an anniversary coming

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up and a special event station this weekend.

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So, Ken, tell us all about it. Okay. Well, as

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you said, it's our 50th anniversary. We we think

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we probably got a steady state start in 1967

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There had been a few attempts at radio clubs

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at the nearby Ellington Air Force base But I

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think the club started a continuous history in

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late 67 so We decided to commemorate the event

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and this weekend, October 13th through the 15th,

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Friday through Sunday, probably starting around

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four o 'clock on Friday, which I just calculated

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is 2100 UTC, 4 p .m. Central Daylight, till probably

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six o 'clock Sunday. be running the club station,

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no special call. We get plenty of response to

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our normal amateur radio call, W5RRR. So we'll

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be in pretty much continuous operation this weekend.

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We've attempted to emphasize having operators.

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Try to get a few of the astronauts that have

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their license out there some of our new members

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We're trying to get interested in the event so

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most likely 20 meters and 40 meters single sideband

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will be the predominant mode Probably in the

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lower part of the general -class subband and

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In operation with that We have a special QSL

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card we've been working with KB3 IFH Designing

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a commemorative QSL card for the event that turned

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out really nice even though I think we probably

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made Randy a little crazy with all our tweaks

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and changes, but dealing with engineers is never

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easy. So we'll have a special QSL card for the

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event. The only thing we ask is that you QSL

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with a self -addressed stamped envelope, S -A

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-S -E. Our address is good. on QRZ, our webpage,

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w5rrr .org. So we'll have a card if you care

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to. It's pretty, really, really nice QSL card.

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And we ran this, we ran a special events back

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in the 25th anniversary of Apollo and it blew

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up in our face. We ended up with a situation

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where we were gonna have to spend more money

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than the club had to fulfill the certificate

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that we promised. So this time it's a nice QSL

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card, self -addressed stamped envelope this weekend.

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So I think that's the short of it. All right.

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Very good. So listen for W5RRR on sideband mostly

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on 20 and 40 in the lower part of the general

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class. uh, sub band and, um, you can find it

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on the spots too. I'm sure. Yeah. Um, and, uh,

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give them a call and get a, get a nice, uh, QSL

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to boot. So, um, be sure to, to check out their,

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uh, web pipe webpage to w five RRR, uh, dot org

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and, uh, and get on the air this weekend and

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give them a call. So, um, Tell us about this

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shack that you've got for the club and how that

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ties into NASA's mission. Okay. Well, let's see.

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As I say, we got started in 67 and, you know,

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reasonable number of amateurs associated with

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what was then the Apollo project. And at that

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time it was the manned spacecraft center. later

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changed to the Johnson Spacecraft Center but

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the club the club really took off in association

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with our being the force behind Sarex shuttle

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shuttle amateur radio on board the shuttle the

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first time that we got amateur radio into space

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which was back in Because I wrote this down I

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can't find it now, but I think it was 1983 with

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Owen Gary at dr. Gary at w5 LFL Gave them we

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were able to qualify a handheld Ended up with

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a foil antenna that went into the overhead window

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of the shuttle and Dr. Garrett took amateur radio

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into space and talked about lots of contacts.

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It was really quite an event and the club was

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behind it. I think we've had three other shuttle

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missions that carried amateur radio on board.

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Each one got bigger and better. And I guess the

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way I like to tell the story is the amateur radio

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club was so successful with amateur radio and

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space, which became the genesis of C. amateur

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radio on board the International Space Station.

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Gee, all I can think of is AMSAT. ARISS, A -R

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-I -S -S, amateur radio on board Space Station.

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So NASA saw that having amateur radio was quite

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a desirable feature, so they took over the program

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and after... Seven years of doing it, I think

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we were. The ARIS amateur radio equipment became

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an educational tool. The contacts today are scheduled

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between the schools. and the amateur radio stations

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aboard the International Space Station, of which

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there are three, and they're about to get a new

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one. So, ARIS has been really successful. I participated

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in a couple events with some of the schools in

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the local area. We classically use a telebridge

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contact. a telephone call to a station that's

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in the ground track of the space station at the

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time. The students get to ask questions of the

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astronauts for about 20 minutes if it's an optimum

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pass. So those two things, Sarex leading to Eris

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really got the club started. When the Sarex experiment

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started off, one of the major manufacturers I

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forget which one donated a top -of -the -line

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rig, and one of our members had the bright idea,

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well, gee, if one of these guys is willing to

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do it, we should ask the other two. And sure

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enough, we ended up with three top -of -the -line

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rigs from ICOM, Yezu, and Kenwood, which consist

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of the basic resources that we have at the club

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now. along with a satellite station, obviously.

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So the club, I guess as the Johnson Spacecraft

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Center got deeper into providing benefits to

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the employees, the Employees Athletic Association

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at JSC, I was going to go through a construction

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major construction upgrade and they were more

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than willing to to build us a shack and Boy,

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did they I don't think they ever said no to any

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of our requests. You should see the ground system.

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We've got in there Must be a couple thousand

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dollars of copper in there, but our new shack

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was Built in 2007. And as I say, it's got four

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stations that are all set up ready to go. Two

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weekends ago, we refurbished the antenna farm

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for this event and put a new tri -bander and

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a 40 meter rotatable dipole on the top of an

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80 foot tower that we replaced most of the sections.

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So we're ready to go and That's the the club

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shack today Very nice facility works out great

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on field day because it's air -conditioned Wow,

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there you go, but NASA NASA put in a an external

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Electrical system so we could quite easily plug

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in a generator and run run generator power during

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field day Very nice. Well, I remember the Sarex

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missions and in fact, Dr. Garriott's son has

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been on this program and we played some of the

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audio from that and you know, that brings back

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again a lot of memories of being able to talk

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to the space shuttle and like you said, that's

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continued on now with with Eris and they're still

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raising money to get that equipment certified

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and up there to boost the power and the capabilities

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up there. It all started with the W5 RRR. That's

00:20:53.059 --> 00:20:57.920
the start of it. We're very thankful that your

00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:03.779
club got that process rolling and did the Sarex

00:21:03.779 --> 00:21:09.089
thing and got Eris going. Pretty neat stuff.

00:21:10.329 --> 00:21:15.250
And you guys have some other activities that

00:21:15.250 --> 00:21:19.670
you do. Tell us a little bit about those activities

00:21:19.670 --> 00:21:24.950
that are available and who can be a part of those.

00:21:26.069 --> 00:21:30.250
OK. Well, to go back historically, the first

00:21:30.250 --> 00:21:34.609
special event station we ran was Apollo 17. For

00:21:34.609 --> 00:21:39.920
that, we did get a special call sign. WM5 MSC

00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:42.579
for Manned Spacecraft Center, which was the name

00:21:42.579 --> 00:21:48.240
at that time. And then the CERECs came along

00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.460
and we've actively supported AERIS, especially

00:21:51.460 --> 00:21:56.759
in the local school districts. As far as the

00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:05.630
club is concerned, we are associated with the

00:22:05.630 --> 00:22:10.950
Center legally. We support a number of the activities.

00:22:11.049 --> 00:22:15.250
We're a backup communications source to the Emergency

00:22:15.250 --> 00:22:22.430
Operations Center at the Center. You know, when

00:22:22.430 --> 00:22:25.089
you think about amateur radio on board Space

00:22:25.089 --> 00:22:29.210
Station, we're also a backup communications system

00:22:29.210 --> 00:22:33.720
for Space Station, which If I remember, almost

00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:40.019
got used when the computers went belly up one

00:22:40.019 --> 00:22:44.000
day. Luckily, the shuttle was docked at the space

00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:46.259
station, so they were still able to control it,

00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:51.500
but they called us up and made sure we were ready

00:22:51.500 --> 00:22:55.819
to go if they had communication problems. Let's

00:22:55.819 --> 00:23:01.819
see, what else do we do? As far as the club is

00:23:01.819 --> 00:23:07.220
concerned, being that we are legally associated

00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:11.000
with the center, we do support that activity.

00:23:11.099 --> 00:23:16.920
So our members have to be affiliated with the

00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:20.839
NASA activities, the NASA facility in some manner

00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:26.539
or another. So our membership is limited to some

00:23:26.539 --> 00:23:33.109
degree, obviously. We have honorary members and

00:23:33.109 --> 00:23:39.369
things like that, but we also are a... The other

00:23:39.369 --> 00:23:42.109
club in the area is the Clear Lake Amateur Radio

00:23:42.109 --> 00:23:48.369
Club, which is a public service club. And a lot

00:23:48.369 --> 00:23:51.549
of our members are members of both clubs, so

00:23:51.549 --> 00:23:55.869
we participate in their public activities, and

00:23:55.869 --> 00:24:02.079
they and ours. Just this, see, yesterday, in

00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:07.099
fact, we supported a fun run at the center associated

00:24:07.099 --> 00:24:10.880
with Total Health and Safety Day, which has been

00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.359
an activity at the center for a number of years.

00:24:13.819 --> 00:24:15.920
And at the end of the day, they have a fun run

00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:19.500
and we provide communication support to that

00:24:19.500 --> 00:24:25.380
activity. Gee, I should... And some testing,

00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:32.930
right? Yes, one of our members has been run as

00:24:32.930 --> 00:24:37.190
the Honcho VEC in the area, so I think it's the

00:24:37.190 --> 00:24:41.670
second Saturday of every month at the recreation

00:24:41.670 --> 00:24:45.109
facility, which is the Gilruth Recreation Facility.

00:24:46.309 --> 00:24:52.109
He sponsors test sessions and I suspect we've

00:24:52.109 --> 00:24:54.750
had over a thousand people go through that over

00:24:54.750 --> 00:25:02.920
the years. See on the air activities antennas

00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:08.599
It's just like amateur radio you name it we do

00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:15.400
it probably We're we're we're looking at EME

00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:21.950
as a possible next technical activity Well, if

00:25:21.950 --> 00:25:26.210
we get the moon base going, maybe we'll get something

00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:29.630
going up there. We're going to shoot. What's

00:25:29.630 --> 00:25:32.329
that trophy for the first amateur radio contact

00:25:32.329 --> 00:25:35.970
with Mars? That's the one I want. That's the

00:25:35.970 --> 00:25:39.470
one I want. Yeah. Well, there's some, there's

00:25:39.470 --> 00:25:43.099
some cool stuff going on down there and uh, and

00:25:43.099 --> 00:25:46.980
the 50th anniversary of that club being celebrated

00:25:46.980 --> 00:25:50.140
this weekend on the air. So make sure you get

00:25:50.140 --> 00:25:55.579
on, give them a call and look for W5RRR on the

00:25:55.579 --> 00:25:58.599
air. So we're going to take a break and then

00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:00.259
we're going to come back and we're going to give

00:26:00.259 --> 00:26:05.009
you a chance to call in. and ask your questions.

00:26:05.009 --> 00:26:08.369
Again, that telephone number here in just a minute.

00:26:09.630 --> 00:26:13.950
You can give us a call at 812 -NET -HAM -1, 812

00:26:13.950 --> 00:26:19.509
-638 -4261. So we'll be back and we'll do that

00:26:19.509 --> 00:26:22.609
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00:26:22.730 --> 00:26:26.829
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00:29:02.740 --> 00:29:06.740
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00:29:10.380 --> 00:29:13.559
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00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:16.480
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00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.460
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00:29:19.460 --> 00:29:22.680
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00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.680
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00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.380
see if we can get that. Uh, yes. Hello. Who is

00:29:29.380 --> 00:29:39.740
this? Hi, Tanner. How are you? All right. It's

00:29:39.740 --> 00:29:43.920
good to, uh, It's good to hear you. So you have

00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:48.900
a question or comment here for Ken We do collectively

00:29:48.900 --> 00:29:51.339
have a question for Ken. We hear he likes to

00:29:51.339 --> 00:29:53.480
climb mountains The question is has he ever taken

00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:57.779
amateur radio with him? Well evening Tanner,

00:29:57.779 --> 00:30:01.400
I knew you guys were gonna lay for me this evening

00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:07.240
so You know the the the secret of mountain climbing

00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:12.700
is is to carry as little as possible and I Even

00:30:12.700 --> 00:30:16.839
I even found 35 millimeter cameras to be too

00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:20.960
much to carry at 20 ,000 feet. So I've never

00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:26.900
I've never taken amateur radio Into the Himalayas

00:30:26.900 --> 00:30:32.119
there. I I have taken shortwave radio a couple

00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:35.849
of Some expedition members had to get their daily

00:30:35.849 --> 00:30:39.390
ball scores So my job was to listen to the BBC

00:30:39.390 --> 00:30:42.890
and get the ball scores on my shortwave radio,

00:30:42.890 --> 00:30:47.589
but that was about the most we've taken into

00:30:47.589 --> 00:30:55.670
Nepal and Pakistan Wait wait is wait is not your

00:30:55.670 --> 00:30:59.529
friend Now Tanner, how did you find out about

00:30:59.529 --> 00:31:03.839
this yo -yo championship thing? Well, that was

00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.099
actually our vice president, I think, who somehow

00:31:07.099 --> 00:31:10.259
came up with that tidbit and happened just to

00:31:10.259 --> 00:31:14.480
put it on the website. I think I actually, as

00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:16.640
Ken said two weeks ago, we did a big tower event,

00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:18.660
and I think there were some rumblings going around

00:31:18.660 --> 00:31:20.279
when we were doing a lot of work, but I didn't

00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:24.140
get to hear the whole story about that. But Dave's

00:31:24.140 --> 00:31:27.119
the one who posted on our website, anyways. That's

00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:32.869
Dave Lee, W5OC. Our vice president. Right. Now

00:31:32.869 --> 00:31:36.670
the story behind that was my father was stationed

00:31:36.670 --> 00:31:40.069
in San Juan, Puerto Rico with the United States

00:31:40.069 --> 00:31:43.369
Coast Guard and I was a member of the Cub Scouts

00:31:43.369 --> 00:31:47.150
and Coca -Cola showed up at one of the pack meetings

00:31:47.150 --> 00:31:51.369
and Gave a demo and passed out free yo -yos and

00:31:51.369 --> 00:31:55.569
said they'd be back in a month to have a contest

00:31:55.569 --> 00:31:59.109
and I think that evening my father said he'll

00:31:59.109 --> 00:32:01.410
he'll lose interest in this in a couple of weeks

00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:07.130
and But that's all it took. So I won. I won the

00:32:07.130 --> 00:32:11.150
pack, the Cub Scout pack, San Juan Air Force,

00:32:11.470 --> 00:32:15.109
San Juan base championship. And they sent me

00:32:15.109 --> 00:32:18.910
on to the the Nationals right there in San Juan

00:32:18.910 --> 00:32:25.089
and got through that. And I just wish I had kept

00:32:25.089 --> 00:32:28.490
some of the the badges and trophies. Somehow

00:32:28.490 --> 00:32:33.740
they've disappeared over the years. But I like

00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:36.720
to talk about having been introduced to amateur

00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:42.799
radio in Puerto Rico. That was a pivotal event

00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.589
in my life. Well, you didn't make a dipole out

00:32:46.589 --> 00:32:50.910
of the yo -yo, did you, Ken? That's what I was

00:32:50.910 --> 00:32:52.609
thinking. I was thinking, hey, maybe that'd be

00:32:52.609 --> 00:32:57.029
a good launch method for the dipole. Yeah. Yeah.

00:32:57.390 --> 00:33:00.549
Well, I was thinking the big base of the yo -yo

00:33:00.549 --> 00:33:03.190
is the decent insulator. So yeah, maybe an antenna.

00:33:03.230 --> 00:33:08.109
I didn't know. Yeah. I sure got hit with it enough

00:33:08.109 --> 00:33:14.430
times. Well, Tanner, not to put you on the spot,

00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:16.950
but, uh, you're going to be, uh, operating some

00:33:16.950 --> 00:33:21.529
on this special event. Yeah, absolutely. I'm,

00:33:21.690 --> 00:33:23.950
I'm very fortunate that I get, uh, every Friday

00:33:23.950 --> 00:33:27.450
off. So I'll be ready to go Friday and then Saturday

00:33:27.450 --> 00:33:30.190
we've got the V testing here at Gil Ruth. So

00:33:30.190 --> 00:33:31.809
I'll be helping with that and then getting on

00:33:31.809 --> 00:33:33.470
the air and then I'll probably come out again

00:33:33.470 --> 00:33:36.750
on Sunday and just hang out and get on the air

00:33:36.750 --> 00:33:39.210
as the, as the spots come open. I think we're,

00:33:39.450 --> 00:33:41.529
we're going to rotate folks in and out and just.

00:33:41.789 --> 00:33:44.329
Plan to have a really really fun time this weekend.

00:33:44.369 --> 00:33:47.289
So we we hope we hope to hear you on the air

00:33:47.289 --> 00:33:51.569
Yeah, I I think most of these contacts we're

00:33:51.569 --> 00:33:55.150
not we're not allowing our big contesters to

00:33:55.150 --> 00:33:58.210
Get into this I guess so the cut the contacts

00:33:58.210 --> 00:34:01.750
are going to be informal and hopefully more than

00:34:01.750 --> 00:34:06.450
just a signal report and Requests for the QSL

00:34:06.450 --> 00:34:10.440
card that I mentioned so our new members. Hopefully

00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.539
we may even get some astronauts out there that

00:34:12.539 --> 00:34:14.780
are licensed. Almost all the crew members today

00:34:14.780 --> 00:34:19.940
are licensed, predominantly for ARES. So it's

00:34:19.940 --> 00:34:22.880
informal operation, I guess would be the way

00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.199
I'd say it. Very good. So you may have a chance

00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.820
to even talk to an astronaut by getting on this

00:34:30.820 --> 00:34:33.679
weekend and catching the Johnson Space Center

00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.860
Amateur Radio Club 50th anniversary celebration

00:34:36.860 --> 00:34:39.949
on the air. So make sure you get on there and

00:34:39.949 --> 00:34:43.210
Tanner W nine T W J. Thanks for calling in and,

00:34:43.210 --> 00:34:46.190
uh, working with me to get this set up and, uh,

00:34:46.349 --> 00:34:49.949
have fun this weekend. Absolutely Neil. Thank

00:34:49.949 --> 00:34:52.309
you so much for doing this and, uh, your hospitality

00:34:52.309 --> 00:34:53.690
to getting us on the air and a little bit more

00:34:53.690 --> 00:34:56.150
exposure. We really do appreciate it. My phone's

00:34:56.150 --> 00:34:58.110
about to die. So I'm going to get off here. But

00:34:58.110 --> 00:35:00.030
again, thank you, Neil. And thanks to Ken for

00:35:00.030 --> 00:35:02.090
coming on the show to do the interview as well.

00:35:02.650 --> 00:35:06.590
All right. Thanks, Tanner. Seven threes. 73 by

00:35:06.590 --> 00:35:13.679
now. 812 -638 -4261 is the telephone number 812

00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:19.320
-NET -HAM -1. If you have a question about the

00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.699
special event station this weekend or the Johnson

00:35:21.699 --> 00:35:25.530
Space Center Amateur Radio Club. or maybe some

00:35:25.530 --> 00:35:29.409
old Apollo questions for Ken. He worked on the

00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:32.969
Apollo missions quite a bit. So give us a call,

00:35:33.090 --> 00:35:38.269
812 -NATAM -1, 812 -638 -4261. We've got time

00:35:38.269 --> 00:35:44.349
for another call or two. So give us a call. And

00:35:44.349 --> 00:35:47.110
you mentioned that the club is kind of limited.

00:35:47.650 --> 00:35:52.449
So You have to be a NASA employee or an employee

00:35:52.449 --> 00:35:56.789
of a NASA contractor or Previously or how does

00:35:56.789 --> 00:35:59.769
that work? Yeah, you've you've said it exactly

00:35:59.769 --> 00:36:03.110
correct Essentially you had to have been badged

00:36:03.110 --> 00:36:06.530
sometime in your history I guess would be the

00:36:06.530 --> 00:36:10.230
way say it. It's since we were supported by the

00:36:10.230 --> 00:36:15.880
employees at employees activity association you

00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:21.659
know we have to remain true to that that association

00:36:21.659 --> 00:36:25.760
however the the shack is in the non -secure area

00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.099
of the Space Center it is open to the public

00:36:28.099 --> 00:36:32.260
and we do you know during field day and things

00:36:32.260 --> 00:36:36.559
like that we actively seek people to come visit

00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:43.480
us so off space There's a public gate that leads

00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.099
to the Gilruth recreation center. And you can't

00:36:47.099 --> 00:36:49.699
miss us with the 80 foot tower and this three

00:36:49.699 --> 00:36:53.340
element brand new tri -bander on the top of it.

00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.219
Yeah. That's always a good way to, to locate

00:36:56.219 --> 00:36:59.920
the station. Look for the antennas up in the

00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:05.190
air and you can find us. So very good 812 NatTam1

00:37:05.190 --> 00:37:09.570
is the phone number 8126384261 we have time for

00:37:09.570 --> 00:37:13.570
one more call if you'd like to chime in here

00:37:13.570 --> 00:37:18.309
and Again, we'll mention that this NASA on the

00:37:18.309 --> 00:37:20.969
air thing is going to be coming up in December

00:37:20.969 --> 00:37:26.349
and Be sure to listen on December 7th. Dr. Rob

00:37:26.349 --> 00:37:30.650
Sugg's KB5EZ is going to join us. And every NASA

00:37:30.650 --> 00:37:33.389
facility is going to be participating in that.

00:37:33.389 --> 00:37:37.530
That's going to start around the first or second

00:37:37.530 --> 00:37:41.929
week of December. So we'll be right before that

00:37:41.929 --> 00:37:44.969
starts up. But there will be a lot of celebrations

00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:48.869
going on for NASA. And Johnson will be a part

00:37:48.869 --> 00:37:53.219
of that as well. But this one is all about the

00:37:53.219 --> 00:37:56.059
Johnson Space Center and the 50th anniversary

00:37:56.059 --> 00:37:58.800
of their amateur radio club this weekend on the

00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:03.260
air. Again, 40 meters, 20 meters side band is

00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:06.260
where most of the activity is going to take place

00:38:06.260 --> 00:38:09.980
in the general class portion of the band, so

00:38:09.980 --> 00:38:13.710
be sure to look for them. Again that phone number

00:38:13.710 --> 00:38:16.710
eight one two six three eight four two six one

00:38:16.710 --> 00:38:21.050
eight one two net ham one or tweet us at ham

00:38:21.050 --> 00:38:23.590
talk live and in fact I need to run over here

00:38:23.590 --> 00:38:26.989
to Twitter and see if we've got anything over

00:38:26.989 --> 00:38:29.590
there too, and I saw someone else had called

00:38:29.590 --> 00:38:33.329
earlier, but It was during the interview so we

00:38:33.329 --> 00:38:37.170
didn't Good chance to get that in but well I

00:38:37.170 --> 00:38:39.570
can I can tell you about the first special event

00:38:39.570 --> 00:38:44.099
that I had at the club Yeah, okay. Well, um,

00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:50.800
it was Apollo 17 I came off my shift During the

00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.860
mission and you know, it was must have been one

00:38:54.860 --> 00:38:57.980
or two o 'clock in the morning went out to the

00:38:57.980 --> 00:39:02.239
shack to participate in the special event station

00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:08.539
that we had set up WM5 MSC and Walk out there

00:39:08.539 --> 00:39:12.349
and who's there operating? Senator Barry Goldwater.

00:39:14.150 --> 00:39:20.670
So in those days, the NASA recovery ships had

00:39:20.670 --> 00:39:23.449
gone the way of not being needed anymore for

00:39:23.449 --> 00:39:27.710
communication. So the Collins S -lines were a

00:39:27.710 --> 00:39:31.409
surplus. And we had a full Collins S -line out

00:39:31.409 --> 00:39:36.329
there at the shack. And Barry and I sat there

00:39:36.329 --> 00:39:39.590
and made contacts into the wee hours of the morning.

00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:43.070
It's quite a quite an experience. Yeah, that

00:39:43.070 --> 00:39:49.230
would be very very well known ham and and very

00:39:49.230 --> 00:39:53.639
well known public official as well and Just be

00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:57.039
able to sit down next to him and be rattling

00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.579
off the Q says, wow. That was, that was one of

00:40:00.579 --> 00:40:03.559
the worst experiences of worst experiences of

00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:06.260
my life. How could an amateur radio operator

00:40:06.260 --> 00:40:11.940
not become president of the United States? Well,

00:40:11.940 --> 00:40:15.780
he was close. Yeah, it was close. Very good.

00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:23.159
A great memory. All right, well anything else

00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.579
you need to throw in here before we Say well

00:40:27.579 --> 00:40:31.420
again, yeah for four o 'clock Friday afternoon

00:40:31.420 --> 00:40:35.400
until probably six o 'clock Sunday 20 40 meters

00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:43.940
single sideband W5 RRR org and Self -addressed

00:40:43.940 --> 00:40:49.679
stamped envelope for a really nice QSL card association

00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:56.940
with KB3 IFH QSL cards. It turned out a lot better

00:40:56.940 --> 00:41:01.940
than... It's nice. It's a nice card. It commemorates

00:41:01.940 --> 00:41:05.360
all the activities over the last 50 years that

00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:10.079
the club has been involved in. Very good. Well...

00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:14.260
Sounds like a fun time and I wish you great success

00:41:14.260 --> 00:41:16.980
with that this weekend and congratulations to

00:41:16.980 --> 00:41:21.219
you and the club on, on 50 years and, and hope

00:41:21.219 --> 00:41:26.320
there's another 50 coming up. Well, Neil, contact.

00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:29.599
Yeah, that's, uh, that's on the, uh, that's on

00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.539
the bucket list here and no doubt, but, uh, thank

00:41:32.539 --> 00:41:35.780
you very much for giving us an opportunity to,

00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:39.010
uh, put out a little PR associated with this

00:41:39.010 --> 00:41:42.889
special event. We appreciate it and we look forward

00:41:42.889 --> 00:41:47.650
to having some nice informal contacts this entire

00:41:47.650 --> 00:41:53.730
weekend out at W5RRR. All right, very good. Hopefully

00:41:53.730 --> 00:41:58.050
I can squeeze some time in to get that call in

00:41:58.050 --> 00:42:01.829
myself as well. Thank you so much for coming

00:42:01.829 --> 00:42:05.969
on HamTalk Live, and that is a wrap for this

00:42:05.969 --> 00:42:10.030
week's edition. Thanks to Ken Goodwin, K5RG,

00:42:10.210 --> 00:42:13.389
and everybody out there in cyberspace for listening

00:42:13.389 --> 00:42:18.269
and calling in and invite you back next Thursday

00:42:18.269 --> 00:42:22.969
night at 9 p .m. Eastern time. Sean Cutsco, KX9X,

00:42:23.030 --> 00:42:25.289
will be here to talk about more space. He's going

00:42:25.289 --> 00:42:28.329
to talk about getting started with satellite

00:42:28.329 --> 00:42:32.780
operations. So it's your chance to work some

00:42:32.780 --> 00:42:36.900
satellites and talk about that. So Sean will

00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:40.559
be here and we're looking forward to that. For

00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.159
a list of all of our upcoming guests, visit HamTalkLive

00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.139
.com and click on the show schedule link and

00:42:47.139 --> 00:42:49.699
you can see what's coming up over the next few

00:42:49.699 --> 00:42:53.920
weeks. So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG,

00:42:53.980 --> 00:43:27.050
saying 7375 and may the good DX. be yours. I've

00:43:27.050 --> 00:43:31.429
completely forgot you're a ham. I don't know

00:43:31.429 --> 00:43:35.050
your power or the height of your tower. Frankly,

00:43:35.130 --> 00:43:40.170
I don't give a damn. So 73s, to you and your

00:43:40.170 --> 00:43:44.329
family, I'll be seeing you further down the law.

00:43:45.150 --> 00:43:50.170
Yeah, 73s, to you and your family, I'll be seeing

00:43:50.170 --> 00:43:59.360
you further down the law. like a local up here.

00:44:00.260 --> 00:44:04.360
But why don't those whistling Mediterranean's

00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:08.940
check it with frequencies clear? We're warm and

00:44:08.940 --> 00:44:13.119
cozy in our shacks and we have talked about thousands

00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:17.920
of things. About shoes, about ships, about ceiling

00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:23.420
wax, about cabbages and kings. It's the 73's.
