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It's him ready everyone it's time 00:01:42.689 --> 00:01:45.590 for another ham talk live it's episode number 00:01:45.590 --> 00:01:51.510 87 the new 2018 arrl handbook with editor ward 00:01:51.510 --> 00:01:56.689 silver in zero ax recorded live on thursday october 00:01:56.689 --> 00:02:02.629 26 2017 i'm your host neil rap wb9 vpg thanks 00:02:02.629 --> 00:02:06.170 for tuning in this episode of ham talk live tonight 00:02:06.170 --> 00:02:10.500 we're joined by ward silver in zero ax and we'll 00:02:10.500 --> 00:02:14.240 take your calls live in just a few minutes. Last 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:18.099 week on the show Sean Cutsco KX9X was here and 00:02:18.099 --> 00:02:20.759 he was talking about getting started with Satellite. 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:23.379 So if you missed that show you can catch it over 00:02:23.379 --> 00:02:26.699 at our website hamtalklive .com or on any of 00:02:26.699 --> 00:02:30.180 the podcast outlets like Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, 00:02:30.219 --> 00:02:33.900 iHeart Podcasts, Google Play, TuneIn, SoundCloud 00:02:33.900 --> 00:02:36.759 or even over on YouTube. You can find us there 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:41.139 so make sure you check that out. and get your 00:02:41.139 --> 00:02:43.280 handbook questions ready to go. We're going to 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:46.120 talk to Ward here about that. The number you 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.939 can call whenever we're ready for that. I'll 00:02:48.939 --> 00:02:50.500 let you know, but I'll go ahead and give you 00:02:50.500 --> 00:02:58.360 the number. 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Gary over at Ham Radio 00:03:41.750 --> 00:03:44.110 Now was just telling me he was planning on doing 00:03:44.110 --> 00:03:48.030 a show before ours and due to some mix -ups in 00:03:48.030 --> 00:03:51.949 the time zones they're going to start here in 00:03:51.949 --> 00:03:54.909 a little bit. So you can catch that on the replay 00:03:54.909 --> 00:03:57.689 that's over at Ham Radio Now. They're going to 00:03:57.689 --> 00:04:01.110 be talking about Puerto Rico and talking to a 00:04:01.110 --> 00:04:04.599 couple of people who... we're on that trip to 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:09.039 do some disaster communications down there so 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:12.719 that'll be coming up in a little bit live on 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:17.180 Facebook but the replay will be on there as well 00:04:17.180 --> 00:04:21.000 so that you don't miss either one and also good 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.980 luck to everyone this weekend at CQ Worldwide 00:04:23.980 --> 00:04:28.160 this weekend and as we say on the show here may 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:33.279 the good DX be yours so Hopefully we'll hear 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:37.259 you on the air and plan on getting in on part 00:04:37.259 --> 00:04:39.660 of it. We've got to do some things this weekend, 00:04:40.660 --> 00:04:44.560 but hopefully Sunday can get in on some of that. 00:04:45.339 --> 00:04:48.160 So be sure you catch us here every Thursday night 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.420 on HamTalk Live at 9 p .m. Eastern Time at HamTalkLive 00:04:51.420 --> 00:04:54.279 .com. Check us out on Facebook, Twitter, and 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.800 Instagram. We'll have some more stuff up there 00:04:56.800 --> 00:05:01.540 here after the show. Well Ward Silver N0AX was 00:05:01.540 --> 00:05:07.399 first licensed at age 16 in 1972 and earned a 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:10.000 degree in electrical engineering at the University 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:14.060 of Missouri Rolla which is now the Missouri University 00:05:14.060 --> 00:05:17.879 of Science and Technology. Ward spent time in 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:21.180 broadcast engineering and field and product development 00:05:21.180 --> 00:05:25.699 engineering for many years and he's an avid contester, 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:30.000 DXer, he's on the DXCC honor roll. the top ten 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.300 in several contests and record lists and one 00:05:33.300 --> 00:05:35.819 of the founders of the World Radio Sport Team 00:05:35.819 --> 00:05:38.980 Championships. He's currently the president of 00:05:38.980 --> 00:05:41.180 the Yasme Foundation, which he's been on the 00:05:41.180 --> 00:05:45.480 show talking about that before and he's... Pursued 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:48.379 technical writing and he's been the lead editor 00:05:48.379 --> 00:05:53.040 of the ARRL handbook and antenna book for a while 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:56.899 He's authored many others such as some of the 00:05:56.899 --> 00:06:01.000 study guides ham radio for dummies recent one 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:05.939 on grounding and many many articles. He was the 00:06:05.939 --> 00:06:10.860 2008 Dayton amateur of the year and in 2015 inducted 00:06:10.860 --> 00:06:14.560 into the CQ contest hall of fame and he enjoys 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.660 his music especially with the world famous spurious 00:06:18.660 --> 00:06:21.899 emissions band each year at Dayton. So Ward thanks 00:06:21.899 --> 00:06:25.360 for coming back on the show. Oh thank you Neil 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:29.579 glad to be here and Yeah, that's I'm gonna have 00:06:29.579 --> 00:06:33.120 to edit that Introduction down. It's about time 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:37.740 to go. How about that? Yeah, well, I actually 00:06:37.740 --> 00:06:42.220 cut it from last time so yeah and by the way 00:06:42.220 --> 00:06:46.160 any time any time we mention a Certain brand 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.360 of radio on this program. Now. We have a little 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.160 clip of one of the spree submissions band songs 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.319 So anytime somebody, you know, one of those, 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:58.439 like some of those TV shows, whenever you say 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:00.860 the word, you know, the sirens go off and everything, 00:07:00.860 --> 00:07:06.040 you know. So anytime somebody says, says Balfang, 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.839 we play a little clip of the, the Balfang song. 00:07:11.389 --> 00:07:13.670 There you go. Yeah, Neil, that was a big hit 00:07:13.670 --> 00:07:17.829 and thank you for the idea. Now, now we'll see. 00:07:17.930 --> 00:07:20.250 We'll see how this other idea pans out. I don't 00:07:20.250 --> 00:07:22.129 know. I'm still trying. I want, I want to get 00:07:22.129 --> 00:07:25.670 the whole song this time. I don't know. Well, 00:07:26.069 --> 00:07:30.110 everybody will see, you know, uh, have fun. Well 00:07:30.110 --> 00:07:33.870 tonight we're going to talk about the new ARRL 00:07:33.870 --> 00:07:38.230 handbook that just came out here recently and 00:07:38.230 --> 00:07:41.370 I wanted to mention something I saw on Twitter 00:07:41.370 --> 00:07:44.670 today. Kay Craigie, the past president of ARRL, 00:07:44.930 --> 00:07:48.310 N3KN tweeted out when she saw that you were going 00:07:48.310 --> 00:07:51.209 to be on tonight with this. She said, any technical 00:07:51.209 --> 00:07:54.670 concept Ward can't explain clearly probably made 00:07:54.670 --> 00:07:58.209 no sense to begin with. And experts, newbies 00:07:58.209 --> 00:08:03.589 like benefit from his work. So, one of the things 00:08:03.589 --> 00:08:07.310 that we want to talk about tonight is your work 00:08:07.310 --> 00:08:12.589 in trying to explain complicated things and technical 00:08:12.589 --> 00:08:19.129 things. Well, Kay is very kind and I appreciate 00:08:19.129 --> 00:08:25.910 the endorsement. You know, 15 years of doing 00:08:25.910 --> 00:08:29.120 hands -on radio and trying to fit complicated 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:35.379 ideas into a two -page format is quite a challenge. 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:40.460 And I understand Mark Twain's remark about, I'm 00:08:40.460 --> 00:08:42.659 sorry, I wrote you such a long letter, I didn't 00:08:42.659 --> 00:08:46.259 have time to write you a short one. But you know, 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:51.639 yeah, it's really true. And she's very kind. 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:56.039 I really appreciated the feedback from the readers 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:01.539 over the years and the handbook is really something 00:09:01.539 --> 00:09:05.039 that I enjoy putting together. I really have 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:08.980 to acknowledge the work of all the people that 00:09:08.980 --> 00:09:12.340 put their shoulder to the wheel and contribute 00:09:12.340 --> 00:09:15.220 so much to the handbook because some of it I 00:09:15.220 --> 00:09:20.279 do write but not very much compared to all the 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:23.600 articles and updates and reviews and everything 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.779 else that come in. I think the contributor list 00:09:26.779 --> 00:09:31.179 was in, you know, dozens this year in a major 00:09:31.179 --> 00:09:35.019 revision like this. Well, we're going to put 00:09:35.019 --> 00:09:38.759 that theory to the test here. So we've got a 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.980 little piece here that we want to play and we're 00:09:41.980 --> 00:09:45.080 going to have you explain everything. So here 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:50.360 we go. This is this is test number one. Here 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.360 at Rockwell Automation's world headquarters, 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:54.779 research has been proceeding to develop a line 00:09:54.779 --> 00:09:57.360 of automation products that establishes new standards 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:00.580 for quality, technological leadership, and operating 00:10:00.580 --> 00:10:04.000 excellence. With customer success as our primary 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.440 focus, work has been proceeding on the crudely 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:08.580 conceived idea of an instrument that would not 00:10:08.580 --> 00:10:11.100 only provide inverse reactive current for use 00:10:11.100 --> 00:10:14.419 in unilateral phase detractors, but would also 00:10:14.419 --> 00:10:16.940 be capable of automatically synchronizing cardinal 00:10:16.940 --> 00:10:21.549 grammeters. Such an instrument, comprised of 00:10:21.549 --> 00:10:24.330 Dodge gears and bearings, Reliance electric motors, 00:10:24.830 --> 00:10:27.529 Allen -Bradley controls, and all monitored by 00:10:27.529 --> 00:10:31.269 Rockwell software, is Rockwell Automation's retro 00:10:31.269 --> 00:10:34.529 -incabulator. Now basically, the only new principle 00:10:34.529 --> 00:10:37.070 involved is that instead of power being generated 00:10:37.070 --> 00:10:39.830 by the relative motion of conductors and fluxes, 00:10:40.370 --> 00:10:44.190 it's produced by the modial interaction of magneto 00:10:44.190 --> 00:10:48.330 -reluctance and capacitive directance. The original 00:10:48.330 --> 00:10:51.090 machine had a base plate of pre -famulated amulite 00:10:51.090 --> 00:10:53.690 surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing 00:10:53.690 --> 00:10:56.289 in such a way that the two spurving bearings 00:10:56.289 --> 00:10:58.830 were in a direct line with a panametric fam. 00:10:59.690 --> 00:11:02.409 The lineup consisted simply of six hydrocoptic 00:11:02.409 --> 00:11:05.629 marzel veins, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar 00:11:05.629 --> 00:11:08.429 waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively 00:11:08.429 --> 00:11:12.210 prevented. The main winding was of the normal 00:11:12.210 --> 00:11:15.330 lotus o deltoid type placed in panandermic semi 00:11:15.330 --> 00:11:18.629 -boloid slots of the stator. every seventh conductor 00:11:18.629 --> 00:11:21.090 being connected by a non -reversible tremie pipe 00:11:21.090 --> 00:11:23.529 to the differential girdle spring on the up end 00:11:23.529 --> 00:11:27.090 of the gram meters. Moreover, whenever fluorescent 00:11:27.090 --> 00:11:29.669 score motion is required, it may also be employed 00:11:29.669 --> 00:11:32.190 in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation dingle 00:11:32.190 --> 00:11:36.169 arm to reduce sinusoidal depleneration. The retro 00:11:36.169 --> 00:11:38.509 -encabulator has now reached a high level of 00:11:38.509 --> 00:11:40.889 development, and it's being successfully used 00:11:40.889 --> 00:11:44.110 in the operation of milfer trunnions. It's available 00:11:44.110 --> 00:11:47.220 soon. wherever Rockwell Automation products are 00:11:47.220 --> 00:11:53.399 sold. All right, so there you go. So explain 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:59.039 to us how the retro -encabulator works. Well, 00:11:59.059 --> 00:12:02.220 you see the dingle arm and the cross product 00:12:02.220 --> 00:12:06.460 with the divergence of the gradient of the Thelman 00:12:06.460 --> 00:12:10.940 wire is really important. You haven't got that 00:12:10.940 --> 00:12:14.590 under control. Why you could have a hyper prompt 00:12:14.590 --> 00:12:20.070 disassembly. There you go. Yep. Sinusoidal depleneration. 00:12:20.230 --> 00:12:26.509 That's just a bad thing. Yeah. Zoom night. Yeah. 00:12:27.590 --> 00:12:30.090 Oh, we've had some, we've had some fun with that. 00:12:31.029 --> 00:12:34.490 Just tweeted out the the YouTube address if you 00:12:34.490 --> 00:12:37.450 want to watch the video of that because the guy 00:12:37.450 --> 00:12:41.990 is the latest one anyway, the guy actually was 00:12:41.990 --> 00:12:47.750 was doing it as a Demo tape so, you know to prove 00:12:47.750 --> 00:12:51.429 that he could sell anything, you know on TV And 00:12:51.429 --> 00:12:54.850 so he's got the whole set and you know moves 00:12:54.850 --> 00:12:57.350 his hands and everything, you know, like it like 00:12:57.350 --> 00:13:01.659 that actually works Yeah, I'll take the guys 00:13:01.659 --> 00:13:05.399 a master Yeah, he did a good job with it. So 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.820 if you want to watch that that's retro in tabulator 00:13:08.820 --> 00:13:13.840 on YouTube and as I said, I tweeted the The link 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:15.960 to that out while ago if you want to watch that 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:19.320 after the show, it's it's pretty funny. Well, 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:27.580 let's talk about some serious stuff The 95th 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:29.759 edition of the handbook caught off the press. 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:34.360 So tell us about what a reader would find in 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:38.740 the handbook. Well, retro -cabulators are not 00:13:38.740 --> 00:13:44.919 in there. The handbook gets a big facelift every 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:50.179 once in a while. My first attempt at this was 00:13:50.179 --> 00:13:53.919 in 2010 when we took it apart and reorganized 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:58.549 it and then again in 2014 and The 2018 edition 00:13:58.549 --> 00:14:03.409 is another one of these major reworks. So I think 00:14:03.409 --> 00:14:08.009 the biggest change to a long -term reader at 00:14:08.009 --> 00:14:12.330 the handbook is that you'll find the chapters 00:14:12.330 --> 00:14:17.649 that used to be receivers and transmitters and 00:14:17.649 --> 00:14:21.269 transceivers and that sort of thing are now more 00:14:21.269 --> 00:14:25.470 about functions, receiving, transmitting. and 00:14:25.470 --> 00:14:29.509 that sort of thing. Everything in ham radio, 00:14:29.830 --> 00:14:33.990 in terms of the equipment, is starting to change 00:14:33.990 --> 00:14:38.909 with SDR and DSP techniques and stuff. So instead 00:14:38.909 --> 00:14:43.549 of trying to tell people how to build a specific 00:14:43.549 --> 00:14:45.809 device, basically we talk about the functions 00:14:45.809 --> 00:14:49.190 and then how they would be done in an analog 00:14:49.190 --> 00:14:54.009 way, say the old SuperHat. and then how they 00:14:54.009 --> 00:14:57.710 would be done digitally through software -defined 00:14:57.710 --> 00:15:00.950 radio techniques. So this is sort of a transition, 00:15:00.970 --> 00:15:04.110 I think, in five years, four or five years. You 00:15:04.110 --> 00:15:07.909 may not be able to buy a new radio that's fully 00:15:07.909 --> 00:15:12.909 analog, except for maybe some niche -type transceivers. 00:15:13.590 --> 00:15:16.049 So it was important to move the handbook in that 00:15:16.049 --> 00:15:22.460 direction. Another big plus is Ken Norton, Norris, 00:15:23.539 --> 00:15:30.080 KK9N has brand new update of the remote control 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:34.500 section in the building a station chapter. And 00:15:34.500 --> 00:15:38.179 that's quite a cool thing. We're also starting 00:15:38.179 --> 00:15:43.960 to include more microwave material, notably Paul 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:50.350 Wade, W1GHZ. has contributed a bunch of new material 00:15:50.350 --> 00:15:55.509 and so there is a lot of new stuff. We're trying 00:15:55.509 --> 00:15:58.230 to hang on to the basics that are not changing 00:15:58.230 --> 00:16:02.250 but we're trying to update the handbook to reflect 00:16:02.250 --> 00:16:06.190 the current state and trends of technology. I 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:08.950 think that's a really good assessment of where 00:16:08.950 --> 00:16:13.110 we are with things right now because the the 00:16:13.110 --> 00:16:18.769 digital trend, even even VHF and UHF, and now 00:16:18.769 --> 00:16:23.570 HF is right there. And so we're in that transition 00:16:23.570 --> 00:16:28.450 right now of moving from one to another. And 00:16:28.450 --> 00:16:32.730 there's a lot of both going on. And SDRs are 00:16:32.730 --> 00:16:36.809 just catching on like wildfire. And I've been 00:16:36.809 --> 00:16:42.519 lucky enough to play with With the SDR in a box 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:46.679 at school the ICOM 7300 and just fell in love 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:50.360 with it And I think you're going to see more 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:56.940 of that Well, we're just starting SDR is not 00:16:56.940 --> 00:17:03.139 only taking over the the existing radio, but 00:17:03.139 --> 00:17:08.880 it's going to enable entirely new ways of Looking 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:14.259 at the radio spectrum And that is going to change 00:17:14.259 --> 00:17:16.880 the way the radio looks, the way we operate, 00:17:16.980 --> 00:17:18.799 the way we think about operating, the way we 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.859 think about radio. And you'll still have radio 00:17:22.859 --> 00:17:25.380 waves going from point A to point B. But the 00:17:25.380 --> 00:17:28.920 equipment on each end is going to start looking 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:32.559 quite a bit different. The current radio is still 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:36.180 a box with some numbers on it and a big knob 00:17:36.180 --> 00:17:39.880 in the middle. And that's pretty much been the 00:17:39.849 --> 00:17:44.730 the standard for radios since the 1930s. And 00:17:44.730 --> 00:17:48.170 this DR is going to enable big changes. So it's 00:17:48.170 --> 00:17:50.809 important to know what's under the hood. We don't 00:17:50.809 --> 00:17:55.809 all have to become hotshot DSP coders, but it's 00:17:55.809 --> 00:17:59.410 important to know the basic functions and the 00:17:59.410 --> 00:18:05.089 basic elements so that you can use and understand 00:18:05.089 --> 00:18:08.509 what it is that your radio is doing. So the handbook 00:18:08.509 --> 00:18:14.250 is It's not a design manual for SDR, but it's 00:18:14.250 --> 00:18:18.529 a how to use SDR and how SDR works document. 00:18:20.589 --> 00:18:23.190 Very good. Well, you mentioned it's the first 00:18:23.190 --> 00:18:28.089 big revision in a while. It was actually 2014. 00:18:29.309 --> 00:18:35.990 So what are some of the additions that are in 00:18:35.990 --> 00:18:42.410 the book this time? Well, how long you got? Well, 00:18:42.750 --> 00:18:46.309 you know, we've touched every chapter except 00:18:46.309 --> 00:18:50.690 the chapter on telemetry and navigational data, 00:18:50.730 --> 00:18:55.230 and that is in work with the two primary authors 00:18:55.230 --> 00:18:57.730 to come in a future edition. So everything's 00:18:57.730 --> 00:19:00.589 going to be touched. Chapters two, three, and 00:19:00.589 --> 00:19:04.630 four that used to be the electronic fundamentals 00:19:04.630 --> 00:19:08.589 and then analog basics and digital basics. all 00:19:08.589 --> 00:19:13.109 that's been reorganized now and you've got a 00:19:13.109 --> 00:19:15.529 fundamentals chapter and then a circuits and 00:19:15.529 --> 00:19:19.890 components chapter and you know that kind of 00:19:19.890 --> 00:19:22.809 thing. So that's in the digital basics chapter 00:19:22.809 --> 00:19:27.930 is now a downloadable PDF. There's a big radio 00:19:27.930 --> 00:19:31.069 math article that's downloadable and radio math 00:19:31.069 --> 00:19:35.869 cheat sheet to help you out. Then we talk about 00:19:35.869 --> 00:19:41.690 toroidal cores Noise materials all been updated. 00:19:42.130 --> 00:19:44.710 There's a really nice new section on electromagnetic 00:19:44.710 --> 00:19:49.869 simulator software by the founder sonnet software 00:19:49.869 --> 00:19:55.970 Jim ratio aj3k If you read hands on radio the 00:19:55.970 --> 00:20:00.750 November column mentions Jim's online article 00:20:00.750 --> 00:20:04.069 about Maxwell's equations is very knowledgeable 00:20:04.069 --> 00:20:07.460 guy started out with Apple IIe programs, and 00:20:07.460 --> 00:20:10.579 now he's got a big company that does electromagnetic 00:20:10.579 --> 00:20:15.119 simulations. And you keep going. We've got a 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:18.839 new chapter on DSP and SDR fundamentals by Doug 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:23.200 Grant, K1DG. The oscillators chapter has new 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:26.359 material. There's a lot of new filter stuff. 00:20:26.980 --> 00:20:31.339 I'll get into the projects in a minute. Just 00:20:31.339 --> 00:20:34.420 jumping through all this, not to dwell on SDR 00:20:34.420 --> 00:20:39.890 too much. In 5AC, Steve Hicks, who's VP of engineering 00:20:39.890 --> 00:20:44.289 at Flex, wrote a lot on SDR signal chains and 00:20:44.289 --> 00:20:48.349 user interfaces. We have some stuff on GNU radio, 00:20:48.589 --> 00:20:52.549 GNU radio, FPGA tools, and all sorts of stuff. 00:20:53.369 --> 00:20:59.529 So then you get into the free DV protocols. That's 00:20:59.529 --> 00:21:03.329 all new. It's in discussion of the Pallet amplifier. 00:21:03.740 --> 00:21:10.319 modules, the new system fusion and DMR. I guess 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:13.539 protocols are really their systems. Propagation 00:21:13.539 --> 00:21:17.019 chapter is updated. We've got new treatment on 00:21:17.019 --> 00:21:20.619 waveguides, a bunch of new antenna projects. 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:25.119 Even added some connectors, connector material. 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.440 And it just goes on, vector impedance analyzers, 00:21:31.940 --> 00:21:36.349 time domain. reflectometry discussions, an amplifier 00:21:36.349 --> 00:21:40.009 repair section got updated, all sorts of things. 00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:42.890 So hey, there's some grounding and bonding stuff 00:21:42.890 --> 00:21:45.009 in there. How about that? Oh, some grounding 00:21:45.009 --> 00:21:50.730 stuff from you? Yeah. The satellite stuff got 00:21:50.730 --> 00:21:54.869 updated, the EME stuff got updated. Digital and 00:21:54.869 --> 00:21:58.289 ATV stuff got updated, too. So we touched an 00:21:58.289 --> 00:22:01.809 awful lot of it. And just some of the new projects, 00:22:01.950 --> 00:22:05.630 there's a bunch of new VHUHF and microwave filters 00:22:05.630 --> 00:22:12.130 from Paul, W1GHZ. There's a couple of nice pre 00:22:12.130 --> 00:22:14.690 -selectors for your SDR if you start playing 00:22:14.690 --> 00:22:19.930 around with the little dongle RTL SDR for example. 00:22:20.750 --> 00:22:23.650 Those don't have very good front end rejection 00:22:23.650 --> 00:22:26.789 of strong signals and you need a pre -selector. 00:22:27.650 --> 00:22:32.369 So got a couple of those. Some new audio interfaces. 00:22:33.649 --> 00:22:37.289 Arduino and pickaxe stuff, a couple of new antennas, 00:22:37.809 --> 00:22:42.789 and we have a spud gun antenna launcher article. 00:22:42.789 --> 00:22:46.849 Oh, there we go. Yeah, so there's also something 00:22:46.849 --> 00:22:51.750 with that element of danger, fire, imminent death. 00:22:52.569 --> 00:22:57.269 Oh my. Well, I remember, you know, back in the 00:22:57.269 --> 00:23:01.180 day, I picked up a copy of of the handbook from 00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:04.240 my college bookstore it was on clearance it was 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:08.200 the the previous year's edition and got it real 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:10.619 cheap you know and I thought well you know I'll 00:23:10.619 --> 00:23:13.200 pick this up and come to find out they were using 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:18.240 it as a textbook for the broadcast electronics 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:22.339 course and there's just all kinds of stuff in 00:23:22.339 --> 00:23:26.980 there and and so much information just packed 00:23:26.980 --> 00:23:32.920 into to one big book And it's changed over the 00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:35.500 years. And you mentioned all these recent changes. 00:23:36.660 --> 00:23:41.299 But this thing can serve a lot of different people. 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:45.900 It can serve as a textbook for this class, as 00:23:45.900 --> 00:23:52.940 well as just for the casual ham that wants to 00:23:52.940 --> 00:23:57.079 launch an antenna. There's a lot of professionals 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.720 out there that keep a copy. On hand as well because 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:05.579 it's got a lot of day -to -day stuff in it and 00:24:05.579 --> 00:24:10.059 so they'll buy a copy it's only what is it 50 00:24:10.059 --> 00:24:15.759 bucks now and If you go in and price college 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:20.319 textbooks or material you're in the three digits 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:24.099 So I would tell my students even if you're not 00:24:24.099 --> 00:24:26.359 really interested in ham radio. This is a great 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.390 book full of reference material, basic theory, 00:24:32.549 --> 00:24:37.170 projects, tables of interesting stuff and things 00:24:37.170 --> 00:24:41.049 about feed lines and transistors. And you can't 00:24:41.049 --> 00:24:43.309 beat the bang for the buck. You really can't. 00:24:43.890 --> 00:24:47.750 And I'm just delighted that we're, you know, 00:24:47.829 --> 00:24:50.690 working hard on trying to make it a real practical, 00:24:51.130 --> 00:24:54.470 useful thing. And even if you don't read it, 00:24:54.470 --> 00:24:56.890 it'll hold stuff down because it's real heavy. 00:25:00.260 --> 00:25:03.400 Well, that brings us to the next question. So 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.839 let's talk about how people can get ahold of 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:10.460 a copy and what different formats are available 00:25:10.460 --> 00:25:13.299 for that. And then we're going to take a break 00:25:13.299 --> 00:25:16.240 here in a minute and take some calls. So, so 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:19.440 tell us about, about how you would get a copy 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:26.210 of the handbook. Well, arrl .org slash Store 00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:30.970 go to the ARL store. That's the best place It's 00:25:30.970 --> 00:25:35.450 available from ham radio outlet and DX engineering 00:25:35.450 --> 00:25:38.730 and all of the ham radio vendors just go down 00:25:38.730 --> 00:25:42.650 to your local ham fest and There's a book vendor 00:25:42.650 --> 00:25:46.009 there. They should have a copy. So They're all 00:25:46.009 --> 00:25:49.490 over the place one note this year. We dropped 00:25:49.490 --> 00:25:54.339 the CD -ROM All the material that comes out as 00:25:54.339 --> 00:25:57.480 a supplement is downloadable. So you get a code 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:01.640 with each book and then you can download a CD's 00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:04.140 worth of material and put it on your hard drive. 00:26:04.940 --> 00:26:07.220 So a lot of good stuff in there too, but you 00:26:07.220 --> 00:26:11.460 know online at your local electronics dealer 00:26:11.460 --> 00:26:15.539 as they say. Okay, very good. Well, we're going 00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:18.940 to take a quick break and then we'll come back 00:26:18.940 --> 00:26:22.440 and give you a chance to call in and ask some 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:25.799 questions about the handbook and other things 00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:28.579 from Ward right after this from Tower Electronics 00:26:28.579 --> 00:26:32.700 right here on HamTalk Live. This episode of HamTalk 00:26:32.700 --> 00:26:35.759 Live is brought to you in part by Tower Electronics. 00:26:35.980 --> 00:26:38.380 Tower Electronics has been the Ham's Dime Store 00:26:38.380 --> 00:26:41.779 since 1978. 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And I may have to... Pull this 00:29:34.950 --> 00:29:38.970 up here. I did have a question that came in earlier 00:29:38.970 --> 00:29:47.809 this week It was about Oh, I don't see it at 00:29:47.809 --> 00:29:55.150 the moment it was about Some I can't remember 00:29:55.150 --> 00:29:59.390 what was radio or something that was drawing 00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:04.019 power even while it was turned off, and they 00:30:04.019 --> 00:30:07.960 didn't understand why it would draw power while 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.779 it was turned off. So you want to try that one? 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:16.599 Well, sure. That's typical of a lot of electronics 00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.640 these days. You turn the power off, really all 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.799 you've really done is turn off the display, and 00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:28.200 maybe in a radio you turn off power to the... 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.880 amplifier section and whatnot. But what's going 00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:38.420 on inside is it's still still live. It may be 00:30:38.420 --> 00:30:44.799 waiting for some kind of a signal or perhaps 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.500 if a signal comes in and it's above a certain 00:30:48.500 --> 00:30:52.779 level the radio will wake up. Usually that's 00:30:52.779 --> 00:30:56.960 a configurable item inside the menus. they're 00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.119 sort of a standby setting. And if you turn that 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.720 off, you can make it really turn off. But usually 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.900 that's the radio can wake up on some kind of 00:31:07.900 --> 00:31:14.079 an event. I found the exact question here too. 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.980 It's from Gail Harris and says her ICOM 706 Mark 00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:25.039 2G has phantom power. Her solar system gets drained 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:29.420 when it's hooked up, but not turned on. Yep. 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.859 Go in and see if there's a configuration item 00:31:34.859 --> 00:31:39.859 to kill whatever it is that's sucking down the 00:31:39.859 --> 00:31:45.880 juice. And phantom power is a name also used 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.940 to power microphones. So if you plug in on that 00:31:49.940 --> 00:31:57.839 microphone, like icons have power on a certain 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:04.079 pin of the output connector. And that's for powering 00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:06.660 an electorate mic and it's called phantom power. 00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:10.160 And as long as I'm on that subject, there's a 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:14.859 big section. What's that? 48 volts. And if it's 00:32:14.859 --> 00:32:18.700 turned on and you accidentally plug in your phone, 00:32:19.469 --> 00:32:23.190 into a mixer that has phantom power turned on 00:32:23.190 --> 00:32:26.170 because somebody didn't know and turned it on 00:32:26.170 --> 00:32:28.990 and you walk in and just plug it in and not realize 00:32:28.990 --> 00:32:32.130 it. It does quite a number on your headphone 00:32:32.130 --> 00:32:37.509 jack I've heard. Yep, you got to be careful about 00:32:37.509 --> 00:32:40.910 mixing different types of gear. Pro audio has 00:32:40.910 --> 00:32:44.230 its way of doing business and that's not always 00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:48.269 the same as how hams do it. There is a big new 00:32:48.269 --> 00:32:54.710 section on the microphones by Jim Brown, K9YC, 00:32:55.089 --> 00:32:59.069 and a big section on how to properly set up your 00:32:59.069 --> 00:33:03.029 microphone levels. Plus, Jim Ton, before Echo 00:33:03.029 --> 00:33:07.589 November Echo E &E, contributed some updated 00:33:07.589 --> 00:33:13.349 compressor and other circuits for speech amps 00:33:13.349 --> 00:33:15.630 and that sort of thing. The circuits in there, 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.059 have been out there a long time and there's better 00:33:19.059 --> 00:33:22.700 technology in there. So we're trying to get to 00:33:22.700 --> 00:33:26.559 the how to actually operate your equipment part 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.839 of things in the handbook. Very good. 812 -638 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.079 -4261 is the phone number if you have a question 00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:39.000 or you can tweet us like she did at HamTalk Live 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:43.240 and ask whatever you want to. We'll give it a 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:49.289 try. Ward, while we're waiting to see if we have 00:33:49.289 --> 00:33:52.109 any of those questions come in, why don't you 00:33:52.109 --> 00:33:54.789 talk a little bit about the history of the handbook. 00:33:54.910 --> 00:33:58.609 It's been 95 editions, so talk about a little 00:33:58.609 --> 00:34:02.890 bit of the history behind it. The very first 00:34:02.890 --> 00:34:08.630 edition was in 1926 and it was a little book 00:34:08.630 --> 00:34:14.150 that was about the thickness of a couple QSTs, 00:34:14.230 --> 00:34:19.469 two and a half QSTs in the old format, the old 00:34:19.469 --> 00:34:23.610 smaller format. And as the saying goes, it's 00:34:23.610 --> 00:34:29.849 grown a bit. And that pretty much had everything 00:34:29.849 --> 00:34:33.650 you needed to know to hook up a typical ham station 00:34:33.650 --> 00:34:37.110 of the day, which everybody was using the same 00:34:37.110 --> 00:34:42.380 stuff. I can't remember when they finally got 00:34:42.380 --> 00:34:45.260 rid of Spark for sure, but everybody was using 00:34:45.260 --> 00:34:49.099 the same type of radio equipment in those days. 00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.460 And so the handbook could focus on that. And 00:34:52.460 --> 00:34:57.579 then later, the antenna book came out in 1939. 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:04.719 So for 13 years, the handbook was it. After World 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:08.010 War II, Well, actually, there's an interesting 00:35:08.010 --> 00:35:12.969 little sidebar here. There was a defense edition, 00:35:13.170 --> 00:35:18.829 1942, after Pearl Harbor. And there's a few copies 00:35:18.829 --> 00:35:20.989 of those floating around out there. They printed 00:35:20.989 --> 00:35:24.829 a special edition of the handbook for amateurs 00:35:24.829 --> 00:35:29.989 engaged in homeland defense and the military. 00:35:30.429 --> 00:35:35.199 And then they kept putting out handbooks and 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.820 then World War II ended and everybody came home 00:35:38.820 --> 00:35:41.760 and hand radio took off again and so there were 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:48.480 lots of handbook editions every year. So 1926 00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:52.280 was 91 years ago there's been a couple of different 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:56.119 editions sometimes they came out at the same 00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:00.079 time they were not all the same, like there was 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.699 the Defense Edition, that sort of stuff. So this 00:36:03.699 --> 00:36:06.320 is the 95th edition. We got five years to go 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:11.699 for the Centennial. There was a supplementary 00:36:11.699 --> 00:36:18.159 book in the 1960s and 70s called Understanding 00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:21.480 Ham Radio, Understanding Amateur Radio, and it 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.739 was sort of the gateway to the ham book. We laugh 00:36:25.739 --> 00:36:29.099 about that. retro and cabulator but when you're 00:36:29.099 --> 00:36:33.699 just getting started out in ham radio a lot of 00:36:33.699 --> 00:36:36.800 the more advanced projects and things that you're 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:40.639 not familiar with do have that retro and cabulator 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:44.760 flavor about it and so I remember reading as 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:48.260 a kid I read a copy of the handbook and hit something 00:36:48.260 --> 00:36:51.000 that totally bamboozled me and then I could go 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:54.880 back to this understanding ham radio book and 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:57.719 And then I go, oh, oh, I kind of get it. And 00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:59.800 then I go back to the handbook and read it. A 00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.679 lot of us learned electronics out of the handbook 00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:07.260 that way. So it's a long tradition of both teaching 00:37:07.260 --> 00:37:10.880 and instruction and guidelines for practical 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:16.340 use. And the handbook has always been approached 00:37:16.340 --> 00:37:20.940 with the idea that the first rung of the ladder 00:37:20.940 --> 00:37:25.300 is low enough for a motivated amateur to reach 00:37:25.300 --> 00:37:30.219 like a general class licensee or a somewhat experienced 00:37:30.219 --> 00:37:34.239 technician. And the first rung has to be low 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:38.219 enough that somebody who wants to get there can 00:37:38.219 --> 00:37:42.260 do it. It's not an engineering textbook. It's 00:37:42.260 --> 00:37:44.980 for ham radio operators. And we recognize that 00:37:44.980 --> 00:37:48.840 not all of us are engineers and technical experts. 00:37:49.889 --> 00:37:52.650 So, that information is valuable to everybody. 00:37:53.070 --> 00:37:56.349 Hope that wasn't too long, but that's basically 00:37:56.349 --> 00:38:00.409 how the handbook has come together over the years, 00:38:00.469 --> 00:38:04.170 and it's a great honor for me to be the editor 00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:07.369 of this book, and not only that, the antenna 00:38:07.369 --> 00:38:10.210 book and the license manual. So, it's about 3 00:38:10.210 --> 00:38:15.590 ,000 pages of material, and I'm very proud to 00:38:15.590 --> 00:38:20.530 be responsible for it. Very good. Well, we've 00:38:20.530 --> 00:38:24.630 got another question here. I think we kind of 00:38:24.630 --> 00:38:28.050 got this answered already since he typed it in 00:38:28.050 --> 00:38:33.130 but Carl KD9HQT says he has the handbook from 00:38:33.130 --> 00:38:37.510 1993 that was owned by his grandfather in 9SNK 00:38:37.510 --> 00:38:40.010 and covers most of the theories and covering 00:38:40.010 --> 00:38:44.570 components and designing antennas and such even 00:38:44.570 --> 00:38:47.050 though you know some of that's outdated would 00:38:47.050 --> 00:38:51.769 some of that information from before 93 and forward 00:38:51.769 --> 00:38:55.869 be reused and revised to meet current information 00:38:55.869 --> 00:39:02.210 standards in this new book? Oh yes. Laws of physics 00:39:02.210 --> 00:39:06.650 haven't changed very much since 1993 so the fundamentals 00:39:06.650 --> 00:39:11.730 of electronics are still valid. You'll find some 00:39:11.730 --> 00:39:13.929 antenna bits and transmission line bits that 00:39:13.929 --> 00:39:21.760 are verbatim from earlier editions. And that's 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:25.119 an important part of the handbook is some things 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.199 are not changing. And so we need to be consistent 00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.320 in the way that we present them and treat them. 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.019 And it's kind of fun to keep some of this old 00:39:36.019 --> 00:39:40.340 stuff alive. For example, in the antenna book, 00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.309 there's a couple of pen and ink drawings. that 00:39:44.309 --> 00:39:46.969 were in the very first edition back in 1939. 00:39:47.409 --> 00:39:49.670 And as long as I'm the editor, we're going to 00:39:49.670 --> 00:39:53.489 keep them in there. Oh, that's cool. Well, as 00:39:53.489 --> 00:39:58.250 they say on Star Trek and also Dr. Demento, you 00:39:58.250 --> 00:40:03.730 cannot change the laws of physics, Jim. Yeah, 00:40:03.730 --> 00:40:06.750 that's true. And I thank Carl for his question. 00:40:07.869 --> 00:40:10.409 It's good to keep some of these old books around 00:40:10.409 --> 00:40:17.429 and, you know, find your the notes or the signature 00:40:17.429 --> 00:40:20.530 of somebody from long ago and far away. I have 00:40:20.530 --> 00:40:23.769 a handbook from the year I was born and a handbook 00:40:23.769 --> 00:40:28.650 from the year I was licensed. Some guys try to 00:40:28.650 --> 00:40:31.050 collect them all. I'm not sure my house could 00:40:31.050 --> 00:40:36.690 stand the weight there, but a handbook is a real 00:40:36.690 --> 00:40:40.409 piece of ham radio tradition, even as it changes 00:40:40.409 --> 00:40:44.159 every year. So that's important. Thank the caller 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.880 for the question. All right. Well, just checked. 00:40:48.139 --> 00:40:50.239 I think we've got all those covered and we've 00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:54.280 got two minutes left. So with these last two 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:58.519 minutes, why don't you touch a little bit more 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:02.739 on that new remote control section of the handbook? 00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:06.860 Yes, very good. Remote control is a big deal. 00:41:07.980 --> 00:41:12.000 Many hams are using stations by remote control. 00:41:12.019 --> 00:41:17.159 There's more every week and you can do that with 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:20.599 very simple setup or you can make it as complex 00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:24.260 as you want but the internet connecting us to 00:41:24.260 --> 00:41:28.579 our radios is enabling people who couldn't get 00:41:28.579 --> 00:41:32.239 on the air because of living conditions or restrictions 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:36.360 or whatever. They set up a remote station someplace 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.900 or they share a remote station with somebody 00:41:38.900 --> 00:41:43.110 else. Anyway, there's a brand new section on 00:41:43.110 --> 00:41:48.710 how to do that. Ken, KK9N, wrote it. It updates 00:41:48.710 --> 00:41:54.210 from Rick, K6VBA stuff before. It's really good 00:41:54.210 --> 00:41:57.889 material. It's not exactly cookbook because every 00:41:57.889 --> 00:42:01.090 station is different. But if you're contemplating 00:42:01.090 --> 00:42:05.929 remote station control, this is a good chunk 00:42:05.929 --> 00:42:09.369 of the handbook. that you'll find really useful. 00:42:09.630 --> 00:42:16.030 Ken is very knowledgeable about networking things 00:42:16.030 --> 00:42:19.289 and he lays it out very clearly what you need 00:42:19.289 --> 00:42:22.489 to do and how you can do it and the manufacturers 00:42:22.489 --> 00:42:24.789 are making their equipment more network friendly 00:42:24.789 --> 00:42:29.230 every year or so. This is a big new area of ham 00:42:29.230 --> 00:42:32.130 radio and I think the readers will appreciate 00:42:32.130 --> 00:42:36.050 it. Now the one section that I need for that 00:42:36.059 --> 00:42:40.480 is how do you get your IT administrator to allow 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.880 that through the firewall at a school? Is that 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:53.730 a specific enough question? Yeah. Ken should 00:42:53.730 --> 00:42:56.050 give you enough information that at least you 00:42:56.050 --> 00:42:58.070 can ask the right questions. You may still get 00:42:58.070 --> 00:43:02.389 to know, but, um, um, at least you can sound 00:43:02.389 --> 00:43:04.710 intelligent while you're getting there. There 00:43:04.710 --> 00:43:07.789 you go. I'm still fighting that battle. Uh, we've 00:43:07.789 --> 00:43:10.130 got it all set up and ready to go and works great 00:43:10.130 --> 00:43:14.389 inside of the, inside the network. Well, you 00:43:14.389 --> 00:43:17.309 know, uh, if you're planning on doing a demo 00:43:17.309 --> 00:43:19.710 of ham radio, you know, you're going out to a 00:43:19.710 --> 00:43:23.289 shopping mall or. Affair or something like that. 00:43:23.590 --> 00:43:27.369 I suggest people consider using a remote station 00:43:27.369 --> 00:43:31.369 the portable setups are always a compromise and 00:43:31.369 --> 00:43:34.429 You often spend time trying to explain to people 00:43:34.429 --> 00:43:37.289 why you can't talk to anybody You know, it's 00:43:37.289 --> 00:43:40.610 noisy low antennas and stuff like that Why not 00:43:40.610 --> 00:43:43.750 use a remote station and have a nice big monitor 00:43:43.750 --> 00:43:47.190 there so they can see what's going on and use 00:43:47.890 --> 00:43:51.789 full -size antennas in a good location and really 00:43:51.789 --> 00:43:54.750 show them what ham radio is about and most people 00:43:54.750 --> 00:43:57.610 will think that's just fine have some radio gear 00:43:57.610 --> 00:44:00.650 to show them but say hey we're connected to a 00:44:00.650 --> 00:44:03.429 station someplace and and how about that we're 00:44:03.429 --> 00:44:07.010 talking to Europe or South America or California 00:44:07.010 --> 00:44:10.559 or whatever Yeah, and some some great stuff and 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.920 Troy do we 9k VR just chimed in and says says 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.179 yeah That's a great question because he has the 00:44:16.179 --> 00:44:21.280 same issues All these school networks. All right. 00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.239 Well, we're out of time Ward, but thank you so 00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:28.860 much for coming on Thanks everybody and Glad 00:44:28.860 --> 00:44:32.099 to have a Have you invite me back? Thank you, 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.440 Neil Alright, well that's a wrap for this week's 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.659 HamTalk Live. Thanks to Ward in Zero AX and everybody 00:44:38.659 --> 00:44:42.739 out there for tweeting in and next week Don Greenbaum 00:44:42.739 --> 00:44:46.400 in one DG will be here to talk about the KH1 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.739 Baker Island De -Expedition and you can see all 00:44:49.739 --> 00:44:53.000 of our upcoming guests at HamTalkLive .com. This 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.539 is Neil, WB9VPG saying 7375 and may the good 00:44:57.539 --> 00:44:59.539 DX be yours.