WEBVTT 00:00:08.369 --> 00:00:11.189 Thanks for tuning in. Hamtalk Live will be on 00:00:11.189 --> 00:00:29.129 the air shortly. Please stand by. Thanks for 00:00:29.129 --> 00:00:31.890 tuning in. Hamtalk Live will be on the air shortly. 00:00:32.170 --> 00:00:43.100 Please stand by. This episode of HamTalk Live 00:00:43.100 --> 00:00:46.960 is brought to you by Tower Electronics. For connectors, 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:53.780 cables, and more, call 920 -435 -2973 or visit 00:00:53.780 --> 00:01:30.689 pl -259 .com. Good evening, everyone. It's HamTalk 00:01:30.689 --> 00:01:36.010 Live, episode number 88. It's the KH1 Baker Island 00:01:36.010 --> 00:01:39.370 D Expedition, recorded live on Thursday, November 00:01:39.370 --> 00:01:44.609 2nd, 2017. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. 00:01:44.650 --> 00:01:48.450 Thanks for tuning in to this episode of HamTalk 00:01:48.450 --> 00:01:53.069 Live. Tonight, we're joined by Don Greenbaum, 00:01:53.170 --> 00:01:57.250 N1DG, and we'll take your calls live in just 00:01:57.250 --> 00:02:00.159 a few minutes. Last week here on The Big Show, 00:02:00.379 --> 00:02:03.420 Ward Silver N0AX was here to talk about the new 00:02:03.420 --> 00:02:08.439 2018 ARRL handbook. And so if you missed that, 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:12.919 you can check it out at HamTalkLive .com. Or 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:17.280 if you have one of those podcast apps, you can 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:22.060 find us on those. We're on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, 00:02:22.139 --> 00:02:25.840 iHeart Podcasts, Google Play, TuneIn, and SoundCloud. 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.340 And there's a bunch of others that get us too, 00:02:29.419 --> 00:02:33.259 so from those. So check out your favorite podcasting 00:02:33.259 --> 00:02:35.280 app and you'll find us there. 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You 00:03:39.659 --> 00:03:43.740 can find some stuff about the show there as well. 00:03:44.409 --> 00:03:48.030 Well, our guest tonight is Don Greenbaum, N1DG. 00:03:48.050 --> 00:03:51.689 He was licensed in 1962. He's operated from several 00:03:51.689 --> 00:03:55.110 remote locations and has been the pilot webmaster 00:03:55.110 --> 00:03:59.189 and QSL manager for several DXpeditions. He's 00:03:59.189 --> 00:04:04.090 a member of ARRL, DDXA, and YCCC, and he's the 00:04:04.090 --> 00:04:08.150 treasurer of the NCDXF, the Northern California 00:04:08.150 --> 00:04:12.490 DX Foundation, and one of the founders of CWO. 00:04:14.710 --> 00:04:18.949 And Don resides in Duxbury, Massachusetts and 00:04:18.949 --> 00:04:26.050 is a 2006 inductee into the CQDX Hall of Fame. 00:04:26.310 --> 00:04:29.069 So Don, welcome to HamTalk Live this evening. 00:04:30.029 --> 00:04:32.250 Well, thank you very much, Neil, and it's an 00:04:32.250 --> 00:04:35.930 honor to be on your show. Well, thanks. We're 00:04:35.930 --> 00:04:41.129 always excited about these DXpeditions. Getting 00:04:41.129 --> 00:04:44.110 those in the logbook. So we want to learn all 00:04:44.110 --> 00:04:47.250 we can about those and So tell us a little bit 00:04:47.250 --> 00:04:50.529 about yours. The latest one on your plate is 00:04:50.529 --> 00:04:53.069 Baker Island so tell us about the island where 00:04:53.069 --> 00:04:57.709 it is and a little bit about it and When you're 00:04:57.709 --> 00:05:03.209 looking to go and activate the island Okay, well 00:05:03.209 --> 00:05:07.990 Baker Island is part of the Fish and Wildlife 00:05:07.990 --> 00:05:13.319 Service refuge It's pretty close to the equator. 00:05:13.459 --> 00:05:16.879 It's only at four degrees north, and it's practically 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:20.660 on the dateline out in the Pacific. It's the 00:05:20.660 --> 00:05:27.680 last place you can go on for today, Midway, of 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:32.699 course, being on the other side of it. We're 00:05:32.699 --> 00:05:38.990 going in June. Pongo Pongo, around the 22nd of 00:05:38.990 --> 00:05:43.870 June of 2018. It's a three -day sail, well, powerboat. 00:05:44.370 --> 00:05:47.730 We will get there in approximately three days, 00:05:48.009 --> 00:05:51.430 depending on the waves and the weather. We should 00:05:51.430 --> 00:05:54.910 be on the island and operating around the 25th 00:05:54.910 --> 00:05:58.069 of the month. We're allowed at the refuge for 00:05:58.069 --> 00:06:02.670 14 days, one day set up, 12 days operating. One 00:06:02.670 --> 00:06:05.170 day teardown and it should all wrap up around 00:06:05.170 --> 00:06:08.569 the 10th of July You know if we get there late 00:06:08.569 --> 00:06:10.810 we operate late if we get there early we go home 00:06:10.810 --> 00:06:17.889 early Baker Island is tropical. It's equatorial. 00:06:18.089 --> 00:06:22.389 So there's very little rain The average temperature 00:06:22.389 --> 00:06:25.930 during the day is about 125 degrees. So we'll 00:06:25.930 --> 00:06:30.670 bring lots of water. Oh, I would hope Yeah, that's 00:06:30.670 --> 00:06:38.680 that's That's hot. So, do you have any kind of 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:43.060 cover on the island to help with that? Or is 00:06:43.060 --> 00:06:49.339 it just pretty much wide open? There are no trees 00:06:49.339 --> 00:06:53.199 on the island. There's some low scrub. We're 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.079 putting up tents. We'll have tarps below the 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:58.600 tents on the coral, which we'll only be able 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:01.569 to flatten out. The tents, of course, will have 00:07:01.569 --> 00:07:05.370 sides that roll up during the day or will bake 00:07:05.370 --> 00:07:12.290 in the in the tents. And we'll try to build little 00:07:12.290 --> 00:07:15.990 berms to somehow keep out the crabs, which are 00:07:15.990 --> 00:07:21.209 notorious on Baker Refuge. So we'll have we'll 00:07:21.209 --> 00:07:23.750 have shelter from the sun, which is constant. 00:07:24.269 --> 00:07:28.990 OK, very good. And I was digging around a little 00:07:28.990 --> 00:07:32.930 bit. There's an old abandoned lighthouse on the 00:07:32.930 --> 00:07:35.750 island, is that right? Yeah, it's only about 00:07:35.750 --> 00:07:41.389 24 feet tall. Back in the 1930s, they tried to 00:07:41.389 --> 00:07:45.629 colonize it. The island was discovered by Captain 00:07:45.629 --> 00:07:48.949 Folger of Nantucket. He was on a whaling ship, 00:07:48.990 --> 00:07:52.250 and it had been visited several times by whalers, 00:07:52.490 --> 00:07:56.759 including a Captain Baker who decided to name 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.459 it after himself, which was sort of interesting. 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:05.439 So like most of the islands out there in the 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:11.459 1800s, they established some guano mining operations. 00:08:11.540 --> 00:08:14.319 And then in the 1930s, somebody actually tried 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.199 to colonize it. That's when the lighthouse was 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:20.060 built during the war, of course. They built a 00:08:20.060 --> 00:08:23.420 landing strip and all that's falling apart and 00:08:23.420 --> 00:08:29.399 can't be used. Okay. Well, sounds like out in 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:32.620 the middle of nowhere as we were discussing before 00:08:32.620 --> 00:08:36.159 the show. Um, so, um, who's going to be going 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:41.100 on, uh, the, the expedition with you. So we're 00:08:41.100 --> 00:08:44.159 allowed 11 people on the Island plus a fish and 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:49.460 wildlife monitor. Um, and I'm going, uh, nine 00:08:49.460 --> 00:08:53.559 V one Y C James Brooks, who's been on an awful 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:57.220 lot of the expeditions. and is famous for his 00:08:57.220 --> 00:09:00.679 movies about the expeditions. Kevin Rowitt, who 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:05.019 is on Midway with me. John Miller, who's been 00:09:05.019 --> 00:09:08.860 to Navassa and Wake. Our doctor is Arnie Schatz. 00:09:08.940 --> 00:09:11.320 And if you look at most the expeditions, including 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:14.620 the upcoming Bouvier, Dr. Arnie is there taking 00:09:14.620 --> 00:09:20.379 care of us. Ned Stearns, who Last year was on 00:09:20.379 --> 00:09:23.139 the South Sandwich South Georgia operations and 00:09:23.139 --> 00:09:25.360 has been all over the world. That's a a seven 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:29.960 a George Waller and Tom Pekarek They are a duo 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:32.559 of low band experts that have been all over the 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:38.000 Pacific including Navassa Tom Berson who most 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:42.960 recently was president of NC DXF and was on South 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:47.200 Orkney Island and Midway with me back about 10 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:51.279 years ago. So lastly, we have Dave Farnsworth, 00:09:51.460 --> 00:09:55.080 WJ2O, who's currently on a boat about a day out 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:58.379 from being on Melish Reef. The common thread 00:09:58.379 --> 00:10:01.820 is we've all been all over the Pacific, the South 00:10:01.820 --> 00:10:07.220 Atlantic. We know the hazards and dangers and 00:10:07.220 --> 00:10:11.799 the care we must take in this protected refuge. 00:10:12.509 --> 00:10:17.269 And we've all been somewhere together. So one 00:10:17.269 --> 00:10:23.809 member I left out from Japan is Ken Tanuma, JN1THL, 00:10:23.809 --> 00:10:27.710 and he was with me in Mozambique four years ago. 00:10:28.350 --> 00:10:31.350 So again, we've all been all over the world together, 00:10:31.350 --> 00:10:36.269 and we're all very experienced de -expeditioners. 00:10:37.730 --> 00:10:42.460 Sounds great. Well, what... bands and modes are 00:10:42.460 --> 00:10:47.159 you going to attempt while you're there and What 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:55.019 all can we expect to hear from you? The Will 00:10:55.019 --> 00:10:58.159 be on all bands will be the first operation from 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.100 Baker to also be on 60 meters So we'll cover 00:11:01.100 --> 00:11:07.419 six meters right up through 160 CW sideband data 00:11:07.419 --> 00:11:11.759 modes and we are currently working with K1JT 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:19.759 on a de -expedition mode of FT8 and if we can 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:25.559 pull this off a lot of the 6 meters, 10 meter 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:30.669 paths that people think are closed might result 00:11:30.669 --> 00:11:34.269 in some quesos on what used to be known as dead 00:11:34.269 --> 00:11:38.549 band. So we're quite excited about this new mode 00:11:38.549 --> 00:11:43.190 that we'll be activating with a new version of 00:11:43.190 --> 00:11:47.850 FT8. Oh, wow. And FT8 is spreading like wildfire 00:11:47.850 --> 00:11:55.019 right now. So that's exciting. Given that Sean 00:11:55.019 --> 00:11:57.700 was pushing for satellite operation. I have to 00:11:57.700 --> 00:12:01.600 ask this any any satellite operation? Absolutely, 00:12:01.820 --> 00:12:07.919 we're taking a Vertically polarized six meter 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:13.259 beam We are only allowed vertical antennas We're 00:12:13.259 --> 00:12:16.539 doing some engineering. So we have vertical beams 00:12:16.539 --> 00:12:24.029 on most bands And we will be aiming up at the 00:12:24.029 --> 00:12:27.830 moon although i predict given that it's june 00:12:27.830 --> 00:12:30.090 and he sees in the end of june will probably 00:12:30.090 --> 00:12:33.409 have a lot of west coast six meter contacts just 00:12:33.409 --> 00:12:37.210 on the skip and of course will be in asia and 00:12:37.210 --> 00:12:42.629 japan. The skip so it should be a lot of fun. 00:12:44.169 --> 00:12:49.049 No right well. Let's talk a little bit about 00:12:49.049 --> 00:12:51.389 supporting this because these the expeditions 00:12:51.389 --> 00:12:56.669 are never cheap so how can people support this 00:12:56.669 --> 00:13:01.509 and what what methods can they use to do that 00:13:01.509 --> 00:13:09.549 and How's the fundraising coming along? So any 00:13:09.549 --> 00:13:15.669 large Far away place requires a lot of money 00:13:15.669 --> 00:13:20.440 because it's a long sail from anywhere. All your 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:26.039 equipment has to be frozen, has to be purchased 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.539 new. We are not taking any chances of bringing 00:13:30.539 --> 00:13:34.320 any invasive species or bugs, new bugs onto the 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:40.200 refuge. The boat, by its nature, had to be approved 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:43.879 by Fish and Wildlife. It needs to be scrubbed. 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:49.759 All this drives up the costs and as people say 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:52.679 they're rare for a reason and this one's going 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:58.919 to cost about $430 ,000 to put on the air. The 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.860 11 team members are each putting in about $20 00:14:01.860 --> 00:14:06.700 ,000. So $220 ,000 or roughly half of the cost 00:14:06.700 --> 00:14:11.000 of this is coming from the team members and that 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:14.559 doesn't even include the cost of flying to pongo 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:20.460 pongo and home and buying all new clothes. So 00:14:20.460 --> 00:14:23.120 it leaves about two hundred and ten thousand 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.919 dollars that we have to raise from the ham radio 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:30.139 community. And we're doing that by public media 00:14:30.139 --> 00:14:33.720 like the Facebook page. We're doing that with 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:38.740 mailings to every DX club. We've applied to foundations. 00:14:40.899 --> 00:14:43.980 We hope to make lots of cues. So when people 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:47.860 work us and request a QSL card, they put in a 00:14:47.860 --> 00:14:54.080 little tip for our good efforts. And we have 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.539 just started the fundraising because we only 00:14:56.539 --> 00:15:00.059 got permission to go a couple of months ago. 00:15:00.059 --> 00:15:03.379 And then we had to negotiate with the Fish and 00:15:03.379 --> 00:15:07.879 Wildlife Service on the actual operating conditions 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.720 and finding a boat. We've already Put down two 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.159 deposits on the boat already. So we're about 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:17.500 seventy five thousand dollars committed to our 00:15:17.500 --> 00:15:20.899 vessel, which is the Naya it's based in Fiji 00:15:20.899 --> 00:15:24.220 so it has to sail three or four days to pongo 00:15:24.220 --> 00:15:30.179 pongo where It has all the scrubbing And the 00:15:30.179 --> 00:15:32.460 charter for the boat doesn't even include the 00:15:32.460 --> 00:15:36.980 scrubbing costs That the Fish and Wildlife Service 00:15:36.980 --> 00:15:43.230 requires So if you're hearing this go to our 00:15:43.230 --> 00:15:47.970 webpage Baker 2018 net click on the PayPal button 00:15:47.970 --> 00:15:52.990 and Help us bring you this new one Baker Island 00:15:52.990 --> 00:15:57.210 is currently number four on the wanted list and 00:15:57.210 --> 00:15:59.429 It's going to be number three on the wanted list 00:15:59.429 --> 00:16:03.470 after the folks going to be they get done. So 00:16:03.470 --> 00:16:07.370 They don't get much rarer than this Okay. Well, 00:16:07.370 --> 00:16:11.889 yeah, make sure you check out the website with 00:16:11.889 --> 00:16:15.990 all the information there and and donate to it 00:16:15.990 --> 00:16:20.490 because it's gonna be be quite a trip and quite 00:16:20.490 --> 00:16:24.509 an expense and and while we're speaking of of 00:16:24.509 --> 00:16:28.549 sponsorships and and expenses and things I know 00:16:28.549 --> 00:16:32.909 you let me know just this afternoon that You've 00:16:32.909 --> 00:16:36.289 got a big announcement to make about the trip. 00:16:36.529 --> 00:16:41.169 So Once you go ahead and do that We've applied 00:16:41.169 --> 00:16:44.549 to the Northern California DX Foundation for 00:16:44.549 --> 00:16:48.389 support, and they let us know this morning, of 00:16:48.389 --> 00:16:52.450 all things, that we will be receiving a grant 00:16:52.450 --> 00:16:57.929 of $75 ,000, and to put that into perspective, 00:16:58.809 --> 00:17:02.769 it's the second largest grant ever given by NC 00:17:02.769 --> 00:17:07.789 DXF, the biggest one being $100 ,000 to the upcoming 00:17:07.789 --> 00:17:12.940 Bouvée. We're honored. They, uh, had so much 00:17:12.940 --> 00:17:17.000 faith in this group that, uh, the wallets were 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:21.019 opened and, and quite a substantial way. And 00:17:21.019 --> 00:17:24.619 so show your support for NC DXF cause that's 00:17:24.619 --> 00:17:28.740 what makes these happen. Absolutely. NC DXF has 00:17:28.740 --> 00:17:31.799 done so many, uh, many great things and, uh, 00:17:31.859 --> 00:17:35.750 no, they, uh, They've been sponsoring my students 00:17:35.750 --> 00:17:38.730 to go to Contest University and those kinds of 00:17:38.730 --> 00:17:41.289 things and these de -expeditions especially. 00:17:42.410 --> 00:17:46.170 So thanks for sharing your big announcement with 00:17:46.170 --> 00:17:51.670 us tonight that 75 ,000 has been promised from 00:17:51.670 --> 00:17:55.650 NC DXF for the trip and I know you'll be sending 00:17:55.650 --> 00:17:59.390 out some information about that in probably just 00:17:59.390 --> 00:18:03.150 a few hours or so. So thanks for... But you, 00:18:03.309 --> 00:18:07.049 but you heard it here first. Exactly. Live local 00:18:07.049 --> 00:18:11.710 and light breaking. There we go. So thanks for, 00:18:11.710 --> 00:18:15.609 uh, for getting that in there. We appreciate 00:18:15.609 --> 00:18:18.740 it. And, um, We appreciate all that you've done 00:18:18.740 --> 00:18:23.119 to get this trip going and get all the equipment 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.039 together and all the negotiations and everything 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.519 and so we'll talk a little bit more about that 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:35.019 and give you a chance to call in with some questions. 00:18:35.259 --> 00:18:39.559 We've already got Several on Twitter, so we'll 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:42.220 get to as many of those as we can and we'll take 00:18:42.220 --> 00:18:45.619 your phone calls next with Don right after this 00:18:45.619 --> 00:18:49.259 word from Tower Electronics here on HamTalk Live. 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:51.900 This episode of HamTalk Live is brought to you 00:18:51.900 --> 00:18:55.200 in part by Tower Electronics. Tower Electronics 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:58.420 has been the Ham's Dime Store since 1978. 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Hey, 00:20:26.529 --> 00:20:29.450 thanks to Scott and Jill over at Tower Electronics 00:20:29.450 --> 00:20:33.309 for sponsoring the show once again tonight to 00:20:33.309 --> 00:20:36.049 help bring you ham talk live. Hey, tomorrow, 00:20:37.170 --> 00:20:40.589 Friday, they'll be at Lawrenceville, Georgia 00:20:40.589 --> 00:20:44.089 for the whole weekend, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. 00:20:44.769 --> 00:20:47.210 So check them out there if you're in the area. 00:20:47.569 --> 00:20:50.930 November 10th at 11th, Montgomery, Alabama, and 00:20:50.930 --> 00:20:54.109 then November 18th and 19th up in Fort Wayne, 00:20:54.109 --> 00:20:57.339 Indiana. and if you can't get to any of those 00:20:57.339 --> 00:21:00.319 locations all you gotta do is give them a call 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:07.339 at 920 -435 -2973 or visit them online pl -259 00:21:07.339 --> 00:21:09.380 .com is where you'll find them and tell them 00:21:09.380 --> 00:21:13.119 you heard it on HamTalk Live and it's time for 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:15.440 your calls now so if you have a question for 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:20.319 Don why give us a call that phone number is 812 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:26.859 -NET -HAM -1 812 -638 four two six one or you 00:21:26.859 --> 00:21:30.220 can Skype us at ham talk live or you can tweet 00:21:30.220 --> 00:21:36.900 us at ham talk live as well and Dr. Scott right 00:21:36.900 --> 00:21:41.779 k0md has already loaded up my inbox on Twitter 00:21:41.779 --> 00:21:45.759 With some questions, so we'll we'll try to get 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.980 as many of these in as we can But we want to 00:21:48.980 --> 00:21:52.859 give everybody a chance here but the first question 00:21:53.369 --> 00:21:57.710 Scott asks is what will be the toughest? propagation 00:21:57.710 --> 00:22:07.230 path For you out there on Baker Probably Western 00:22:07.230 --> 00:22:14.009 Europe, it's almost an antipode We expect most 00:22:14.009 --> 00:22:20.210 of those Q so's will be on 17 20 and 30 meters 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:24.220 We don't see any propagation forecast covering 00:22:24.220 --> 00:22:31.680 160, 80, or 10 and 12 meters to Western Europe. 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:34.440 The rest of the world, especially North America, 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:39.960 even though it's June, should see pretty much 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:47.140 12, 15, and even some 160 activity, even to the 00:22:47.140 --> 00:22:50.900 East Coast, according to the propagation. Okay, 00:22:50.900 --> 00:22:54.240 so we'll see how that goes. And again, if you 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:56.440 want to give us a call, you can do that. The 00:22:56.440 --> 00:23:01.259 phone number is 812 -NET -HAM1, 812 -638 -4261. 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:04.680 Go ahead and give us a call here and we'll take 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:08.319 your call as we're going through some of these 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:11.059 questions and some of the things I've got here 00:23:11.059 --> 00:23:17.220 to discuss. Another thing that dr. Scott right 00:23:17.220 --> 00:23:20.400 key zero MD asks is are you going to sacrifice 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:25.160 ready for? Ft8 mode is that going to be an either 00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:28.880 or is that going to be both? Absolutely, not 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:34.519 FTA is being viewed as a poor propagation mode 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:42.339 Assist I don't think we plan on Ft8 on 20 meters 00:23:42.339 --> 00:23:50.180 30 meters 17 Just because if if we do FT 8 and 00:23:50.180 --> 00:23:53.160 really they'll just be two people trying to log 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.799 two different data modes on the same band and 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:59.380 The purpose of this trip is all time new ones. 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:03.920 So we'd rather give everybody one cue Than half 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:08.519 as many people 20 cues. So FT 8 will not be used 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:12.900 on any band as ready Um, and mostly it will be 00:24:12.900 --> 00:24:18.099 used on the, uh, six meters, uh, 10 meter, uh, 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:25.160 bands. Okay. Very good. And, um, any chance at 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:29.279 getting over to Howland while you're going? Our 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:34.160 permit is specifically for Baker. Um, it's the 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:39.519 same DXCC entity and, uh, um, Howland is off 00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:42.440 limits. We actually applied to go to Howland 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:45.539 instead of Baker, but they didn't want any human 00:24:45.539 --> 00:24:49.779 activity there at this time. Okay, very good. 00:24:50.539 --> 00:24:55.019 Well, 812 -638 -4261 is the phone number or you 00:24:55.019 --> 00:24:59.039 can tweet us or Skype us if you like. And we'll 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:03.500 take as many questions as we can squeeze in here 00:25:03.500 --> 00:25:07.339 tonight from you. So give us a call or a tweet. 00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:13.839 or Skype. Some more questions here. Scott has, 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:16.940 how much power will you be able to run on 60? 00:25:19.579 --> 00:25:23.839 We're not planning high power on 60. It'll probably 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:32.200 be the 200 watts that we'll be using. Simple 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:37.779 as that. Okay, very good. And he says, any chance 00:25:37.779 --> 00:25:41.440 at getting the Uber frugal Europeans to donate? 00:25:43.500 --> 00:25:48.759 We're always begging for money. Interestingly 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:53.400 enough, and on past expeditions, they're frugal 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:57.480 up front, but if you work them, they generally 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:02.910 donate their fair share after a queue. Yeah, 00:26:02.950 --> 00:26:06.210 Scott, it's, it's hard to get the money upfront. 00:26:06.529 --> 00:26:09.130 Yeah, it is. It's always nice to get that card, 00:26:09.329 --> 00:26:11.910 but, uh, you gotta, you gotta pay for that to 00:26:11.910 --> 00:26:16.150 get there. So, yeah, we would, uh, we would appreciate, 00:26:16.150 --> 00:26:19.230 uh, you considering a donation, uh, to, to help 00:26:19.230 --> 00:26:23.269 these guys out and, uh, and get there. Let's 00:26:23.269 --> 00:26:26.289 see. Well, we may get all of these in here, Scott. 00:26:26.410 --> 00:26:29.970 We're working down the list here. Given the recent 00:26:29.970 --> 00:26:36.730 successes of the 3C0L and 3C1L two -man team, 00:26:37.670 --> 00:26:42.329 is a team approach now outmoded and too expensive 00:26:42.329 --> 00:26:45.750 for the worldwide DX community? Should we be 00:26:45.750 --> 00:26:49.609 supporting smaller and more efficient operations? 00:26:49.930 --> 00:26:54.039 That's a tough one. Two of our members, Tommy 00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:58.740 and George, are famous for their two -man operations. 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:09.680 That's AA7, JV, and HA7 mental block. And RY, 00:27:09.779 --> 00:27:16.160 there we go. And so there's a place for every 00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:20.130 expedition. But two people can't afford to put 00:27:20.130 --> 00:27:22.769 on a four hundred thousand dollar expedition 00:27:22.769 --> 00:27:31.269 two people can't put up a large array of Antennas, 00:27:31.470 --> 00:27:33.769 I mean the manpower and when you're going to 00:27:33.769 --> 00:27:35.750 a place on the equator, that's a hundred and 00:27:35.750 --> 00:27:38.450 twenty five degrees without commercial power 00:27:38.450 --> 00:27:43.349 there's a lot of housekeeping to keep the generators 00:27:43.349 --> 00:27:47.769 fueled and to repair what happens when a bird 00:27:47.769 --> 00:27:52.069 takes down one of your radials or guy wires. 00:27:53.210 --> 00:27:57.109 So, yes, there's a place for two manned expeditions, 00:27:57.549 --> 00:28:01.750 but rarely do you see a number three expedition 00:28:01.750 --> 00:28:07.069 to a rare island put on the air successfully 00:28:07.069 --> 00:28:11.690 by anything less than 10 or 12 or 15 people. 00:28:13.250 --> 00:28:20.150 Okay, good answer well Carl kd9hqt has Dropped 00:28:20.150 --> 00:28:23.549 into the chat room here and says how do you deal 00:28:23.549 --> 00:28:27.670 with speaking of birds? Taking down your radials. 00:28:27.910 --> 00:28:31.269 How do you deal with so many booby birds flying 00:28:31.269 --> 00:28:37.359 or? taking Number two all over the place around 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.039 while you operate you checked out the pictures 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:43.880 the island seemed to be attracted to the island 00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:51.519 Well, it's a mating area It was mined for guano 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.559 Birds are part of the purpose of having a refuge 00:28:55.559 --> 00:29:00.039 to protect them. So like we did on Midway all 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.619 the antennas are vertical They all have guy wires 00:29:03.619 --> 00:29:06.880 that every two feet have a little streamer to 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:13.099 keep them away. We had 22 antennas up on Midway. 00:29:13.700 --> 00:29:17.000 There were no bird strikes and we didn't lose 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:21.960 any antennas due to the animals. The biggest 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:28.740 threat to our equipment are the crabs. These 00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:33.420 guys will eat anything, everything from sleeping 00:29:33.420 --> 00:29:39.420 bags to any light pieces of rope, so the guy 00:29:39.420 --> 00:29:43.660 wires have to be super strong and coated. And 00:29:43.660 --> 00:29:47.140 we're not worried about birds. Fish and Wildlife 00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:49.519 Service isn't worried about the birds because 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.460 we're going to take every precaution to protect 00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:54.480 them. It's their habitat. We're the invasive 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:58.849 species here. So we're not going to turn this 00:29:58.849 --> 00:30:02.069 into an Alfred Hitchcock movie, right? No, we're 00:30:02.069 --> 00:30:04.230 not. I mean, there are tons of birds and tons 00:30:04.230 --> 00:30:10.730 of crabs. Um, but, uh, we'll, we'll, we'll coexist. 00:30:10.789 --> 00:30:13.230 They were all over midway also. And everywhere 00:30:13.230 --> 00:30:16.650 we went, there were seals and penguins all over 00:30:16.650 --> 00:30:19.769 South Orkney when we were there and we walked 00:30:19.769 --> 00:30:24.930 around clanging pots to chase them away. I remember 00:30:24.930 --> 00:30:27.549 watching some of the videos from some of those, 00:30:27.549 --> 00:30:32.349 the expeditions and with the penguins and, and 00:30:32.349 --> 00:30:37.450 birds and seals. I think one was one of them. 00:30:37.829 --> 00:30:39.809 Yeah. Right. You don't have to watch where you 00:30:39.809 --> 00:30:43.529 step because wherever you step, I mean, it's 00:30:43.529 --> 00:30:46.750 the, you just have to wear boots. That's all. 00:30:46.890 --> 00:30:51.670 Oh boy. Well, if you have a question. or comment 00:30:51.670 --> 00:30:57.410 give us a call 812 -638 -4261 is the number or 00:30:57.410 --> 00:31:02.309 you can send something in by Twitter or you can 00:31:02.309 --> 00:31:06.269 call us on Skype as well again it's 812 -638 00:31:06.269 --> 00:31:09.930 -4261 for the phone number we still have about 00:31:09.930 --> 00:31:13.390 10 minutes left with Dawn so if you have questions 00:31:13.390 --> 00:31:16.490 let us know I did have some questions about equipment 00:31:16.490 --> 00:31:20.009 but you're you're still working that out right 00:31:21.420 --> 00:31:27.460 The radios are decided on they'll be k3 s's Generously 00:31:27.460 --> 00:31:30.660 loaned to us by Ella craft. They're also giving 00:31:30.660 --> 00:31:37.359 us linears The antennas will be some form of 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:43.839 stepper verticals We're still designing How to 00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:48.420 phase them and make arrays and then DX engineering 00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:58.779 is Basically saying coax Filters Anything we 00:31:58.779 --> 00:32:01.980 need that we don't get from the other two sponsors 00:32:01.980 --> 00:32:05.579 from antenna tuners and the like they're gonna 00:32:05.579 --> 00:32:08.740 Bundle them up and send them to us. So when we 00:32:08.740 --> 00:32:13.839 get there we Are covering all bands and modes 00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:24.069 Okay, very good well We've covered a lot of these 00:32:24.069 --> 00:32:27.769 What are you going to be using for for power 00:32:27.769 --> 00:32:32.250 without? any kind of Any kind of help there at 00:32:32.250 --> 00:32:38.250 all We found that other locations that smaller 00:32:38.250 --> 00:32:44.589 Generators are quieter easier to bring in over 00:32:44.589 --> 00:32:49.470 the reef because Baker Island surrounded by reefs 00:32:49.470 --> 00:32:53.960 and While we were able to go right up to the 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.440 shore on South Orkney with these large six kilowatt 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:01.339 generators, we're going to go for the Honda or 00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:04.799 Briggs and Stratton two kilowatt models, take 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:09.940 more of them. They're more fuel efficient. And 00:33:09.940 --> 00:33:14.279 our power supplies will all be powered by 2000 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.640 watt linears. We figure we'll need about six 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.960 or eight of them. Because of that reef, fish 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:26.460 and wildlife as part of the compatibility determination 00:33:26.460 --> 00:33:30.200 has specified we have to bring 10 days of water, 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:36.299 10 days of fuel, 10 days of MREs in case the 00:33:36.299 --> 00:33:39.099 boat can't restock us while we're on the island. 00:33:41.099 --> 00:33:43.579 And so in addition to the power and the need 00:33:43.579 --> 00:33:47.440 for a 10 -day supply, We're also going to be, 00:33:47.500 --> 00:33:50.740 when we arrive and get on the island to build 00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:54.799 our little city for two weeks, we'll be stocking 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:57.319 it just in case they can't get back to us for 00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:01.759 a while. Always good to have that backup plan. 00:34:01.900 --> 00:34:06.420 That's for sure. 812 -638 -4261. We still have 00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:10.099 time for a couple of questions about the KH1 00:34:10.099 --> 00:34:14.139 Baker Island, the expedition. So give us a call 00:34:14.139 --> 00:34:19.119 if you like. Let us know what you're wondering 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:24.340 about it. I'm always interested to hear some 00:34:24.340 --> 00:34:30.039 of the challenges of working with the government 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.079 agencies to get permission on this and some of 00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.119 the links that you have to go through. You talked 00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:38.500 about the scrubbing of the boats and everything. 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.159 What are some of the other challenges that you 00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:45.750 had putting this proposal together? Getting approved 00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:50.769 to go Well, the last operation allowed was 2002 00:34:50.769 --> 00:34:54.590 so will be the first operation in 16 years to 00:34:54.590 --> 00:35:01.389 this environment Our group first applied in March 00:35:01.389 --> 00:35:07.469 of 2015 for permission to go We contacted the 00:35:07.469 --> 00:35:11.849 Hawaiian office that manages the refuge they 00:35:11.849 --> 00:35:16.059 told us that They would look at the application. 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:22.219 There have been lots of budget cutbacks to these 00:35:22.219 --> 00:35:24.920 groups, so they just didn't have people that 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.260 could take time to go to the island with us, 00:35:29.300 --> 00:35:31.960 which is one of the requirements to monitor us. 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.099 But we applied and about two years after we applied, 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.360 we received an email. um, notifying us that because 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.360 of the interest and four groups had applied by 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:50.099 then that they were going to do what's called 00:35:50.099 --> 00:35:53.900 a compatibility determination. And that has two 00:35:53.900 --> 00:35:58.480 purposes. Can we go there and not disturb the 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.360 refuge as well as if we went there, what are 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.159 the requirements and specifically what we must 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:10.329 do to preserve the environment we are visiting. 00:36:12.610 --> 00:36:17.789 About two months after that, they did their compatibility 00:36:17.789 --> 00:36:20.869 determination proposal and put it up on the web 00:36:20.869 --> 00:36:24.969 for people to comment on. We commented on it 00:36:24.969 --> 00:36:27.829 in terms of what we thought were the requirements 00:36:27.829 --> 00:36:34.489 of a ham radio de -expedition. They determined 00:36:34.489 --> 00:36:39.550 at the end of the day, 11 operators small footprint, 00:36:39.989 --> 00:36:45.170 vertical antennas, and the requirement to take 00:36:45.170 --> 00:36:48.449 the food along and what have you, the costs. 00:36:48.489 --> 00:36:52.989 There's a fee for going here. There's a fee for 00:36:52.989 --> 00:36:56.530 the resource monitor to reimburse the government 00:36:56.530 --> 00:37:02.050 for her salary and travel. And then the four 00:37:02.050 --> 00:37:06.650 groups that had applied, revised their applications 00:37:06.650 --> 00:37:11.750 and operating plans with regards to safety for 00:37:11.750 --> 00:37:15.630 evacuation. What happens if somebody gets injured? 00:37:16.210 --> 00:37:19.869 And at the end of the day, we got a phone call 00:37:19.869 --> 00:37:23.030 that because of the experience of our group, 00:37:23.070 --> 00:37:26.849 because we've all been in these kinds of environments, 00:37:26.929 --> 00:37:30.610 the fact that we were so highly rated after our 00:37:30.610 --> 00:37:34.960 Midway Island expedition. that we were the chosen 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:41.400 group and after all the back clapping and and 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:44.260 all the the fun part then we started looking 00:37:44.260 --> 00:37:49.219 for a boat and then you say Be careful what you 00:37:49.219 --> 00:37:53.940 wish for because Now the hard work begins equipment 00:37:53.940 --> 00:37:58.500 Planning operation procedure. We're producing 00:37:58.500 --> 00:38:04.510 a manual checking out emergency evacuation, uh, 00:38:05.190 --> 00:38:09.250 um, companies that can airlift a dam, uh, an 00:38:09.250 --> 00:38:13.269 injured member of the group and the good old 00:38:13.269 --> 00:38:19.210 fundraising, you know, $430 ,000 is, uh, it's 00:38:19.210 --> 00:38:21.489 a lot of money. And for the expedition, this 00:38:21.489 --> 00:38:27.489 is a pretty, pretty quick turnaround. Yeah, we 00:38:27.489 --> 00:38:34.550 had over two years to plan for VP 8 or K We we 00:38:34.550 --> 00:38:38.849 had about 11 months from when we got the the 00:38:38.849 --> 00:38:43.690 green light and then a lot of the boats in the 00:38:43.690 --> 00:38:49.469 area won't go between December and May because 00:38:49.469 --> 00:38:55.579 of the typhoon season in the Pacific so we were 00:38:55.579 --> 00:39:00.519 sort of button -holed as to when we could go 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.800 because fish and wildlife determined when it's 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.400 not the mating season for this type of bird, 00:39:08.460 --> 00:39:13.000 when their people could go, and the permit was 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:20.300 for 12 months. So if we, if by the time we got 00:39:20.300 --> 00:39:24.239 done negotiating, all the other details with 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.219 fish and wildlife, it sort of had to be June. 00:39:27.780 --> 00:39:31.619 And we're going to make the best of the propagation 00:39:31.619 --> 00:39:36.099 that June provides. And that's where FT8 might 00:39:36.099 --> 00:39:40.679 come in on six meters. And while we do lose common 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:43.880 darkness to some parts of the world in June, 00:39:45.739 --> 00:39:47.960 some of our members who have operated from the 00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:51.820 Pacific Find that European propagation isn't 00:39:51.820 --> 00:39:54.800 all that bad in June to the middle of the Pacific 00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:58.780 So and again on the high bands like 17 20 and 00:39:58.780 --> 00:40:01.760 30 So we're looking forward to it. It should 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.829 be fun. Yeah, it sounds like Sounds like a fun 00:40:05.829 --> 00:40:09.349 time and we've got just a couple of minutes left 00:40:09.349 --> 00:40:12.869 So let me ask you a little bit about your support 00:40:12.869 --> 00:40:17.389 team back Back at home, so to speak You've got 00:40:17.389 --> 00:40:22.150 some people helping out with Piloting everything 00:40:22.150 --> 00:40:25.849 and getting the word out on a lot of things and 00:40:25.849 --> 00:40:29.289 your social media and website and things like 00:40:29.289 --> 00:40:31.889 that So let's talk a little bit about the the 00:40:31.889 --> 00:40:38.800 crew back here at home Every successful de -expedition 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:46.199 since Heard Island back in 1995, when ON4UN and 00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.440 I were the two pilots on that expedition, needs 00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:55.480 feedback. And you can't always get feedback from 00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:59.260 your on -the -air CUSOs. So, you know... Every 00:40:59.260 --> 00:41:02.420 expedition will miss an opening. So we have AA1V 00:41:02.420 --> 00:41:06.380 being our chief pilot. He's assisted by CALL, 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:13.139 MM0NDX, NF4A who is with us on Midway. All experienced 00:41:13.139 --> 00:41:18.460 DXers are feeding Don AA1V with info they get 00:41:18.460 --> 00:41:22.480 from various parts of the world. J1HSX who's 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:26.940 done many, many Japanese stints as a pilot, they 00:41:26.940 --> 00:41:31.579 will all be feeding in as V51A will be from Africa, 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:41.039 what we've missed. In addition, Marty, our wonder 00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:45.719 boy of social media will be taking care of Facebook, 00:41:46.099 --> 00:41:50.760 Twitter, press releases to make sure everybody 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.329 knows When we've actually started operating on 00:41:54.329 --> 00:41:59.829 the Island, um, and feeding the audiences, Marty 00:41:59.829 --> 00:42:05.829 lane likes to say, but you think Marty can feed 00:42:05.829 --> 00:42:09.590 the audience. You really think he can do that? 00:42:10.349 --> 00:42:17.179 He's a smorgasbord. Yeah, he will definitely 00:42:17.179 --> 00:42:21.320 do that. And he's been doing a fine job of promoting 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.639 it so far. And that's how I found out about it 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:29.059 first was Marty on Facebook. So thanks to Marty 00:42:29.059 --> 00:42:33.269 for doing that and all the pilots. letting them 00:42:33.269 --> 00:42:37.570 know how things are going during the trip. So 00:42:37.570 --> 00:42:41.289 we're just about out of time, Don, but thank 00:42:41.289 --> 00:42:44.550 you so much for coming on and talking about all 00:42:44.550 --> 00:42:47.710 this. And now Marty's calling me a schmuck. So 00:42:47.710 --> 00:42:52.630 that's not what I had in mind when I'm putting 00:42:52.630 --> 00:43:00.650 the jar. Oh, my. Well, thank you so much for. 00:43:01.070 --> 00:43:04.550 for coming on and we appreciate it. And we look 00:43:04.550 --> 00:43:06.949 forward to hearing you on the air from Baker 00:43:06.949 --> 00:43:10.750 Island in June. And Neil, it's been a pleasure. 00:43:10.989 --> 00:43:13.329 Thanks for your time. All right. And remind us 00:43:13.329 --> 00:43:15.949 of the website again with the donate button. 00:43:17.389 --> 00:43:22.829 Baker 2018 dot net. All right. Very good. Well, 00:43:22.909 --> 00:43:26.230 that's a wrap for this week's edition of HamTalk 00:43:26.230 --> 00:43:30.230 Live. Thanks to my guest, Don Greenbaum, N1DG, 00:43:30.250 --> 00:43:32.610 and everyone out there in cyberspace for listening 00:43:32.610 --> 00:43:37.210 and chiming in on Twitter and the chat. And next 00:43:37.210 --> 00:43:40.730 week, Thursday night, nine o 'clock Eastern time. 00:43:41.090 --> 00:43:44.730 And it is time change this weekend, so we'll 00:43:44.730 --> 00:43:47.670 still be at nine o 'clock Eastern with the time 00:43:47.670 --> 00:43:51.309 change. Val Hotzfeld in V9L will be here to talk 00:43:51.309 --> 00:43:54.880 about the Puerto Rico. disaster communications 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:57.960 trip, so we look forward to hearing from her 00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.699 about all the events down in Puerto Rico. We've 00:44:00.699 --> 00:44:03.059 been hearing a lot about that, so we'll have 00:44:03.059 --> 00:44:06.199 a chance to talk to Val next week. So for a list 00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.460 of all of our upcoming guests, go over to HamTalkLive 00:44:09.460 --> 00:44:12.920 .com and click on the schedule link. And so for 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:17.219 now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 00:44:17.619 --> 00:44:38.349 7 -5, and may the good DX be yours. Thanks for 00:44:38.349 --> 00:44:38.369 watching.