WEBVTT 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:14.400 Thanks for tuning in. HamTalk Live will be on 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:32.340 the air shortly. Please stand by. Thanks for 00:00:32.340 --> 00:00:35.079 tuning in. HamTalk Live will be on the air shortly. 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:40.509 Please stand by. This episode of HamTalk Live 00:00:40.509 --> 00:00:44.390 is brought to you by Tower Electronics. For connectors, 00:00:44.750 --> 00:00:51.210 cables, and more, call 920 -435 -2973 or visit 00:00:51.210 --> 00:01:29.890 pl -259 .com Coming to one and all, it's HamTalk 00:01:29.890 --> 00:01:35.590 Live episode number 90 tonight. Remote Hams, 00:01:36.189 --> 00:01:40.730 recorded live on Thursday, November 16th, 2017. 00:01:41.750 --> 00:01:46.370 I am your host, Neil Rapp, WB9 VPG. Thanks for 00:01:46.370 --> 00:01:50.739 tuning in to this episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight 00:01:50.739 --> 00:01:55.079 we're joined by Scott Avery, W -A -6 -L -I -E, 00:01:55.140 --> 00:01:58.959 the founder of RemoteHams .com, and we'll take 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:02.840 your calls live in a few minutes. Last week here 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:06.780 on the show, Valerie Hotsfeld, NV9L, was here 00:02:06.780 --> 00:02:10.259 to talk about the Puerto Rico disaster communications 00:02:10.259 --> 00:02:13.639 deployment. And if you missed that, be sure to 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.939 check that out at HamTalkLive .com or on your 00:02:16.939 --> 00:02:20.979 favorite podcast app. We're on several, including 00:02:20.979 --> 00:02:25.800 Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartPodcasts, Google 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:28.379 Play, TuneIn, SoundCloud. We're also over on 00:02:28.379 --> 00:02:31.860 YouTube and we're on a bunch of others. So pick 00:02:31.860 --> 00:02:35.159 out your favorite one. Chances are good we're 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:39.120 there. So if you have some questions about operating 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:43.460 on remote hams tonight You'll be able to give 00:02:43.460 --> 00:02:46.199 us a call. We're going to talk to Scott for a 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:48.099 little bit first, but let me give you the phone 00:02:48.099 --> 00:02:50.460 number so you have it ready to go. We're not 00:02:50.460 --> 00:02:53.560 ready for your questions just yet. We'll do a 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.800 little intro first so everybody's familiar with 00:02:56.800 --> 00:03:00.060 what's going on. But that phone number that you'll 00:03:00.060 --> 00:03:08.960 need to call in is 812 -NET -HAM -1. for the 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:15.180 alphabetically challenged, that's 812 -638 -4261. 00:03:15.979 --> 00:03:18.580 You can also find us on Skype at HamTalk Live 00:03:18.580 --> 00:03:21.879 and Twitter at HamTalk Live, and you can send 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:23.819 us a question. In fact, you can go ahead and 00:03:23.819 --> 00:03:26.159 tweet us now and we can pick that up here in 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:30.039 a little bit. Again, that's at HamTalk Live on 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:34.770 Twitter. I do have one other announcement before 00:03:34.770 --> 00:03:41.069 we get going here. It's a 13 year old ham that's 00:03:41.069 --> 00:03:43.490 been on the program before. He was on a few months 00:03:43.490 --> 00:03:47.789 ago about working CW with his mic button and 00:03:47.789 --> 00:03:51.189 he's come a long way since then. Um, he received 00:03:51.189 --> 00:03:54.610 a, uh, autographed the golly at contest university, 00:03:54.990 --> 00:03:57.090 uh, which we talked about a little bit on the 00:03:57.090 --> 00:04:00.189 show. Well, he just passed his extra class on 00:04:00.189 --> 00:04:03.050 Saturday. So congratulations to Bryant on that. 00:04:03.289 --> 00:04:08.050 And he's been selected to go to WRTC. So next 00:04:08.050 --> 00:04:10.669 summer. he'll be participating in the World Radio 00:04:10.669 --> 00:04:15.550 Team Championship 2018 in Wittenberg, Germany. 00:04:16.269 --> 00:04:19.009 He'll be representing one of the youth teams. 00:04:19.370 --> 00:04:22.129 He will be the youngest ham in the competition 00:04:22.129 --> 00:04:26.550 and the only youth ham from North America, but 00:04:26.550 --> 00:04:30.350 takes some money to travel all that way. So he's 00:04:30.350 --> 00:04:34.149 raising some money by selling humorous ham holiday 00:04:34.149 --> 00:04:38.319 postcards. You can use those for QSL. cards or 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:43.439 just some holiday greetings. So we've posted 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:47.420 that information on our Facebook page and our 00:04:47.420 --> 00:04:50.980 Twitter feed and Instagram. And I'll actually 00:04:50.980 --> 00:04:55.240 be interviewing him tomorrow in preparation for 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:59.480 next week's amateur radio news line. So you can 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.259 hear a little bit more about it over that news 00:05:02.259 --> 00:05:05.019 line. But if you're interested in helping them 00:05:05.019 --> 00:05:07.600 out, check out the flyer on our social media 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:12.120 sites, and we'll be talking more about WRTC 2018 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.699 in future episodes. So again, congratulations 00:05:15.699 --> 00:05:20.180 to Bryant, and we'll try to help him out by spreading 00:05:20.180 --> 00:05:23.680 the word on this fundraising. HamTalk Live, we're 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.839 on the air every Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:30.139 time at hamtalklive .com. And again, check us 00:05:30.139 --> 00:05:32.879 out on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. We do 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:36.560 post some stuff there throughout the week, so 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:39.519 make sure you see that. Well, our guest tonight 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:43.379 is Scott Avery, W -A -6 -L -I -E. He's from Salinas, 00:05:43.379 --> 00:05:46.480 California, and has been a ham since age 15. 00:05:46.980 --> 00:05:50.480 He's been very active on VHF, where he operates 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.250 a lot of six meters and a lot... formerly with 00:05:55.250 --> 00:05:59.870 contacts in outer space on the Mir space station 00:05:59.870 --> 00:06:03.269 and the space shuttle, and now with the International 00:06:03.269 --> 00:06:06.029 Space Station. He operates several satellites 00:06:06.029 --> 00:06:08.970 and also supports the Loma Pioneer Repeater Club 00:06:08.970 --> 00:06:11.870 and its repeaters. Scott has been setting up 00:06:11.870 --> 00:06:14.750 remote stations since the 80s, back before the 00:06:14.750 --> 00:06:18.379 internet. Before Al Gore invented it and you 00:06:18.379 --> 00:06:22.079 may remember him also from a cruise he took for 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:24.379 his anniversary where the staff knew nothing 00:06:24.379 --> 00:06:28.139 about ham radio and Kind of gave him the riot 00:06:28.139 --> 00:06:31.160 act because he had his HF rig with him on the 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:35.480 ship and and Had a little a little unfortunate 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:39.019 episode there But Scott is the founder of remote 00:06:39.019 --> 00:06:42.620 hams a service that provides remote access via 00:06:42.620 --> 00:06:47.500 the internet for HF operators. So Scott, thank 00:06:47.500 --> 00:06:51.040 you so much for coming on tonight. Oh, thanks, 00:06:51.139 --> 00:06:53.860 Neil. Good evening and thanks for having me. 00:06:54.620 --> 00:06:57.560 Yeah, we've been trying to to get you guys on 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:02.459 here for a while. One of our listeners, Lloyd 00:07:02.459 --> 00:07:07.379 Casey 5 FM has been talking a lot about remotehams 00:07:07.379 --> 00:07:12.019 .com and one of the nets that he is in that I'm 00:07:12.019 --> 00:07:14.879 also a member of is Christian Amich Radio Fellowship 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:19.439 and they use it a lot of times to try to cut 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:22.480 through some of the propagation issues and everything. 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:26.519 So we're glad that you could be on tonight. So 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.920 tell us all about Remote Hams and how it all 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:35.879 got started. All right. Well, it's goes back 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:40.879 a ways back in the Mid 80s. I had a guy I used 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.439 to talk to all the time on 7250 and his name 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:49.500 was Mike Mike Flanagan KH6 Victor Tango and We 00:07:49.500 --> 00:07:53.660 used to get up on 7250 and BS a lot and Eveningtime 00:07:53.660 --> 00:07:57.800 band and great propagation of Hawaiian. I Found 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:00.879 out that he was running a remote and that consisted 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:05.860 of a Nikon 701 And he had a three element wire 00:08:05.860 --> 00:08:10.100 Yagi up at 100 foot. Here's a kicker. It was 00:08:10.100 --> 00:08:15.600 at the old WWVH site in Kihei, Maui. And he remoted 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:23.300 on using his full tempo S2 radios, UHF audio 00:08:23.300 --> 00:08:26.600 link, and a simple controller with a VIC -20 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:29.319 computer. And that was pretty high tech back 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.040 then. Of course, this was way before the internet. 00:08:31.550 --> 00:08:33.330 Anyhow, I'd always been interested in running 00:08:33.330 --> 00:08:37.409 remotes and I had recently moved and I couldn't 00:08:37.409 --> 00:08:39.330 really operate. I could receive, I just couldn't 00:08:39.330 --> 00:08:45.149 transmit. I used an old mom's garage and set 00:08:45.149 --> 00:08:49.490 up an HF station. There was a little TS520S and 00:08:49.490 --> 00:08:52.970 a couple UHF handhelds and a remote receiver. 00:08:53.289 --> 00:08:55.769 I was about maybe three miles away line of sight. 00:08:57.029 --> 00:08:59.419 Get that way, it's kind of crude but... It was 00:08:59.419 --> 00:09:02.960 also great because I had diversity receive and 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:06.159 I could also have full duplex because my transmitted 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.480 signal wasn't necessarily stronger than everybody 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:11.460 else I was talking to so I wasn't that strong 00:09:11.460 --> 00:09:14.460 on the remote receiver but everybody else was 00:09:14.460 --> 00:09:19.240 so it was easy to pull duplex but at any rate 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:23.240 that was just all fun messing around you know 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:28.539 when I could get on the air and so at any rate 00:09:28.509 --> 00:09:30.629 I ended up taking a cruise, which you mentioned 00:09:30.629 --> 00:09:35.309 earlier, and that wasn't too fun. You can do 00:09:35.309 --> 00:09:39.850 a Google search on W -A -6 -L -I -E, suspected 00:09:39.850 --> 00:09:43.289 terrorist, and you can get a little bit more. 00:09:44.009 --> 00:09:49.389 It was in QST, by the way. So yeah, it wasn't 00:09:49.389 --> 00:09:53.409 a fun experience, and that just made me say, 00:09:53.429 --> 00:09:55.509 you know what, I need to take this more serious. 00:09:58.139 --> 00:10:02.559 together with Brandon, KG6YPI. He's a computer 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:05.620 guru, self -taught, just he's a genius, a great 00:10:05.620 --> 00:10:08.860 friend. And I said, look, here's my idea. This 00:10:08.860 --> 00:10:11.620 is what I want to do. And so he started writing 00:10:11.620 --> 00:10:14.580 the software. We started out with HRD and Skype 00:10:14.580 --> 00:10:17.799 and TeamViewer and it all worked okay. But you 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:21.639 know, it just, it wasn't real enough. So at any 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:26.039 rate, Brandon started writing software. We were 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.940 web -based HTML for a while, and then he eventually 00:10:28.940 --> 00:10:33.399 wrote the client and the server software. And 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.700 he did all that. I mean, that's all Brown. He's 00:10:35.700 --> 00:10:39.460 a smart kid, and it was many, many years of us 00:10:39.460 --> 00:10:41.360 getting together and talking about what we wanted 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:46.700 to do and all that. So at any rate, I chose Brown 00:10:46.700 --> 00:10:51.639 because he was great in security. He liked to... 00:10:51.370 --> 00:10:54.750 you know, for pun hacking websites. So I figured, 00:10:54.750 --> 00:10:57.149 you know, great guy, because I want security, 00:10:57.350 --> 00:10:59.090 you know, because we're talking about ham radios 00:10:59.090 --> 00:11:01.809 and licenses and all that. So he built us a great 00:11:01.809 --> 00:11:05.710 secure site. And we love it. A lot of people 00:11:05.710 --> 00:11:11.289 like using it. It's primarily there for, you 00:11:11.289 --> 00:11:15.720 know, just using but I kind of designed it. Mind 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.759 for well one of these days, you know, I'm gonna 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:19.860 get old and I might bring the retirement home 00:11:19.860 --> 00:11:22.580 But I was thinking about the new hams, you know 00:11:22.580 --> 00:11:24.480 the guys that just don't money They're getting 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.259 in the hobby and they just want to listen on 00:11:26.259 --> 00:11:28.679 a receiver or see what things are like or whatnot 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:32.000 And you know old hams alike and those in the 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:37.179 CC and ours if you're vacationing like New Mexico 00:11:37.179 --> 00:11:44.990 Another good time to do it you know a lot of 00:11:44.990 --> 00:11:50.769 people like how many times have you heard hey 00:11:50.769 --> 00:11:55.049 what's my audio sound like and you know there 00:11:55.049 --> 00:11:57.289 might be five guys on frequency and you'll get 00:11:57.289 --> 00:12:01.610 five different answers and so I just say hey 00:12:01.610 --> 00:12:03.809 you know you can listen on my remote receiver 00:12:03.809 --> 00:12:06.789 you can record it whatever but you know at least 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:10.480 hear what it sounds like. So, anyway, it's a 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:14.740 free service. It's always going to be free. It's 00:12:14.740 --> 00:12:18.960 open to everybody. We encourage clubs. N6IJ is 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.299 a club that I'm a member of, and we have a nice 00:12:22.299 --> 00:12:26.419 HF station at 599 DX Drive in Marina. Great address. 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:32.580 Thanks to Pat A6EG. But we have that remote. 00:12:33.340 --> 00:12:35.820 So, you know, members out of the area can still 00:12:35.820 --> 00:12:37.769 get on the air. You know, if they're going on 00:12:37.769 --> 00:12:40.110 vacation, they can at least use a good antenna 00:12:40.110 --> 00:12:42.549 or whatnot. So anyway, it's out there for everybody 00:12:42.549 --> 00:12:46.690 to use and, um, just, uh, glad it's there. And, 00:12:46.710 --> 00:12:49.809 um, glad that, uh, Brandon's getting a little 00:12:49.809 --> 00:12:52.149 bit wrecked, a little bit more recognition for 00:12:52.149 --> 00:12:55.409 all the work he does out there, Neil. All right. 00:12:55.409 --> 00:12:58.230 Very good. Well, uh, this sounds like a great 00:12:58.230 --> 00:13:00.809 way for hams that can't put up antennas, you 00:13:00.809 --> 00:13:02.789 know, to get on the air. Like you said, the, 00:13:02.789 --> 00:13:06.340 the, uh, neighborhood covenants or they're in 00:13:06.340 --> 00:13:11.360 a nursing home or rehab facility. you know and 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:14.000 they're not able to get the antennas up and then 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:17.419 we've got this horrible sunspot cycle going on 00:13:17.419 --> 00:13:20.639 right now or propagation is bad and so you might 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:23.519 be able to to get somewhere that normally you 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.639 could get to but right now you can't or or just 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:28.740 check and make sure you're getting out i mean 00:13:28.740 --> 00:13:31.960 that's like you said you know well how do you 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.679 hear me you know well you can you can check yourself 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:39.470 and see uh if you're being heard and if your 00:13:39.470 --> 00:13:43.250 antennas are working right. Sounds like a great 00:13:43.250 --> 00:13:47.490 thing. So for somebody who hasn't done remotes 00:13:47.490 --> 00:13:51.990 before, how do they get signed up with Remote 00:13:51.990 --> 00:13:56.330 Hams and how do they get started using the client? 00:13:58.070 --> 00:14:00.289 It's actually pretty simple. All you have to 00:14:00.289 --> 00:14:07.889 do is go to www .remothams .com. and create a 00:14:07.889 --> 00:14:11.629 new account and doing so use your call sign as 00:14:11.629 --> 00:14:16.529 your username and choose your password and basically 00:14:16.529 --> 00:14:19.230 we have one, two, three steps we try to make 00:14:19.230 --> 00:14:22.370 it easy we have installers and all that so basically 00:14:22.370 --> 00:14:25.250 what you'll do is you'll download the client 00:14:25.250 --> 00:14:29.549 and you'll log in and you'll use that client 00:14:29.549 --> 00:14:33.149 software to connect to the different radios so 00:14:33.149 --> 00:14:36.009 it's actually pretty easy to use They set up, 00:14:36.070 --> 00:14:38.250 if you're doing a server, if you're hosting a 00:14:38.250 --> 00:14:41.190 radio, that's a little bit more difficult, but 00:14:41.190 --> 00:14:46.110 it's not too bad. I just, I'd mention also that 00:14:46.110 --> 00:14:51.110 this is Windows only. We are looking for a developer 00:14:51.110 --> 00:14:55.309 for the Apple iOS system. So if you're an Apple 00:14:55.309 --> 00:14:59.029 guy, you get some time. We're, like I said, not 00:14:59.029 --> 00:15:02.529 for profit. you know, we could really definitely 00:15:02.529 --> 00:15:04.830 use it to ball for, you know, I got an iPad, 00:15:05.049 --> 00:15:09.330 I got an iPhone, but no remote hand. So, um, 00:15:09.669 --> 00:15:12.029 anyway, if you have a windows or Android device, 00:15:12.029 --> 00:15:16.389 you're good. We also have a, um, um, software 00:15:16.389 --> 00:15:19.750 for the Android. So if you go to, uh, the Google 00:15:19.750 --> 00:15:25.429 store and look up RCF, and by the way, RCF or 00:15:25.429 --> 00:15:29.669 stands for remote controlled framework and Orb 00:15:29.669 --> 00:15:34.509 is online. remote based so at any rate uh to 00:15:34.509 --> 00:15:37.950 try to keep it simple uh if you just uh go ahead 00:15:37.950 --> 00:15:41.710 and do the one two three on the website and start 00:15:41.710 --> 00:15:44.509 using radios and you can even you should upload 00:15:44.509 --> 00:15:46.669 your license if you want to transmit but for 00:15:46.669 --> 00:15:48.529 listening purposes like if you're running a net 00:15:48.529 --> 00:15:52.370 for example and conditions are lousy and you 00:15:52.370 --> 00:15:55.649 know you know somebody that has a receiver remote 00:15:55.649 --> 00:15:58.539 receiver or transceiver Another part of the country 00:15:58.539 --> 00:16:00.419 that you're having a hard time hearing that now 00:16:00.419 --> 00:16:02.740 it's a good opportunity to use a remote Neil. 00:16:03.220 --> 00:16:06.600 Yeah, it sure is. And I know it's a. come in 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:09.519 handy a couple of times and I actually I remember 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:13.559 last time I used one was uh I was doing that 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:18.899 13 colonies thing and and we got all the 13 colonies 00:16:18.899 --> 00:16:21.299 over here and then the bonus on the bonus stations 00:16:21.299 --> 00:16:24.899 was over in Great Britain and it seemed like 00:16:24.899 --> 00:16:27.200 no one could get them and I was just like are 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.519 they even on the air I keep seeing them spotted 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:31.740 but are they even on the air and I pulled up 00:16:31.740 --> 00:16:35.340 a remote over in England and I was able to hear 00:16:35.309 --> 00:16:38.110 them over there. I couldn't hear them anywhere 00:16:38.110 --> 00:16:41.990 else, but I was able to actually tell, okay, 00:16:42.490 --> 00:16:49.350 they really are on the air. So that's a great 00:16:49.350 --> 00:16:53.450 thing to have around, and I'm glad you're able 00:16:53.450 --> 00:16:57.250 to. offer this to hams out there. So tell us 00:16:57.250 --> 00:17:00.250 a little bit about the the setup of the infrastructure 00:17:00.250 --> 00:17:04.089 to make all this go and some of the stations 00:17:04.089 --> 00:17:07.849 that are available for people to use on remotehams 00:17:07.849 --> 00:17:12.509 .com. All right well first of all we have our 00:17:12.509 --> 00:17:16.829 main server in Fremont in a nice big building 00:17:16.829 --> 00:17:21.250 and we have a backup server in the United Kingdom 00:17:21.250 --> 00:17:24.369 and so we We basically have that server -client 00:17:24.369 --> 00:17:28.910 relationship working right now. So if you're 00:17:28.910 --> 00:17:31.569 hosting a radio, you're going to be set up as 00:17:31.569 --> 00:17:34.170 a server. And of course, if you're just a user, 00:17:34.309 --> 00:17:36.430 you have the client side. So we have the user 00:17:36.430 --> 00:17:39.869 -client operation. We used to have the web base 00:17:39.869 --> 00:17:44.890 using HTML. But because of security issues and 00:17:44.890 --> 00:17:47.529 other things, it just wasn't a very good idea. 00:17:47.670 --> 00:17:52.500 So we keep it this way. It seems to work well. 00:17:52.859 --> 00:17:56.160 Like I mentioned earlier, it can be used on the 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.299 Android device. I want to also recommend the 00:18:00.299 --> 00:18:04.440 Orb device if you go onto remotehams .com and 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:08.640 look under products. The Orb device is a nice 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.500 interface box. In fact, I'm using it right now. 00:18:12.180 --> 00:18:14.339 What it does is it interfaces to your computer 00:18:14.339 --> 00:18:18.099 where you can actually hook up your favorite 00:18:18.099 --> 00:18:23.119 key. to this box, your CW key, and or a Kenwood 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.539 or Ellacraft microphone to the 8 -pin connector, 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.819 and or if you have another computer mic or studio 00:18:30.819 --> 00:18:32.920 mic, you can plug that in. Also, it has this 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:38.160 built -in sound card, and it works great for 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.000 also using the digital modes, and it gives you 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.000 more of a radio feel, and if you have the... 00:18:47.970 --> 00:18:53.490 KX3 or a KX0 mini or a K3 you can also use those 00:18:53.490 --> 00:18:58.369 in a terminal mode to control another K3 so it's 00:18:58.369 --> 00:19:01.970 pretty cool in other words I can use my K3 to 00:19:01.970 --> 00:19:05.609 emulate the K3 at N6IJ because we also have a 00:19:05.609 --> 00:19:10.730 K3 there so Basically, I spin the dial and I 00:19:10.730 --> 00:19:13.750 push the buttons and it's emulated on the other 00:19:13.750 --> 00:19:16.089 radio. The only thing that will not do is microphone 00:19:16.089 --> 00:19:19.470 and audio. Those are set. So every other button 00:19:19.470 --> 00:19:22.410 is active. I could go into the config menu and 00:19:22.410 --> 00:19:23.930 all that sort of stuff. But you have to be an 00:19:23.930 --> 00:19:26.630 admin. So again, security. Thank you, Brandon. 00:19:27.609 --> 00:19:30.910 He's really good about that, all about security. 00:19:32.750 --> 00:19:37.170 And basically, it's a pretty easy system to use. 00:19:37.369 --> 00:19:39.970 It's a lot of fun. It's a remote -based community. 00:19:41.750 --> 00:19:44.910 You have a lot of stations out there that have 00:19:44.910 --> 00:19:47.450 a lot of members that just like, it's almost 00:19:47.450 --> 00:19:51.329 like a hangout or like a coffee room or a chat 00:19:51.329 --> 00:19:54.210 room like on Skype here, for example. And a bunch 00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:56.369 of guys just kind of hang out there and they 00:19:56.369 --> 00:20:00.369 might be working in that or in some cases taking 00:20:00.369 --> 00:20:04.329 turns at working DX. Some radios are more popular 00:20:04.329 --> 00:20:08.109 than others. Of course, every radio is unique. 00:20:09.069 --> 00:20:12.369 In other words, I host the radio and I have my 00:20:12.369 --> 00:20:15.329 certain rules because I might have certain antennas 00:20:15.329 --> 00:20:19.009 or I just might be limited. Every radio owner 00:20:19.009 --> 00:20:21.670 has their own set of rules, so everyone is different. 00:20:21.950 --> 00:20:24.329 Every radio is different and everybody makes 00:20:24.329 --> 00:20:28.630 their own rules. They're just your basic courtesy 00:20:28.630 --> 00:20:31.950 rules we like you to ask before you. you know 00:20:31.950 --> 00:20:34.730 go ahead and take control somebody's radio and 00:20:34.730 --> 00:20:37.230 decide to uh you know tune it off somewhere you 00:20:37.230 --> 00:20:41.250 know just uh the common courtesy type of thing 00:20:41.250 --> 00:20:44.069 but other than that like i said it's free for 00:20:44.069 --> 00:20:47.450 all we we like clubs to we encourage clubs to 00:20:47.450 --> 00:20:52.470 uh use remote hands to host the radio um we're 00:20:52.470 --> 00:20:54.450 we're working on the santa cruz club they kind 00:20:54.450 --> 00:20:56.670 of got it going but they're still kind of working 00:20:56.670 --> 00:20:59.900 on it but Nonetheless, there are a lot of other 00:20:59.900 --> 00:21:03.900 clubs, and the members really enjoy it because 00:21:03.900 --> 00:21:06.619 a lot of them, again, they might live far away 00:21:06.619 --> 00:21:10.140 from the club, or they aren't as portable as 00:21:10.140 --> 00:21:12.740 they used to be, or they might be in a retirement 00:21:12.740 --> 00:21:16.440 community. And we're seeing a lot more of that. 00:21:16.900 --> 00:21:20.339 And I'm getting closer there myself, but I know 00:21:20.339 --> 00:21:24.990 I'm going to be there one day. That way, I'm 00:21:24.990 --> 00:21:29.690 already setting myself up. If I can't use radio 00:21:29.690 --> 00:21:32.829 anymore, then at least I got the remote stuff. 00:21:33.690 --> 00:21:37.910 Even if I can't use my K3, if I can't hook it 00:21:37.910 --> 00:21:42.170 up to an antenna, at least I can use the remote 00:21:42.170 --> 00:21:45.930 K3s in the same fashion. I use the same microphone 00:21:45.930 --> 00:21:49.470 and everything about it. It's just emulating 00:21:49.470 --> 00:21:52.579 your radio. to the remote radio and it's pretty 00:21:52.579 --> 00:21:56.140 cool stuff and a lot of fun. Alright, well tell 00:21:56.140 --> 00:22:00.180 us a little bit about the stations that are available 00:22:00.180 --> 00:22:07.940 on the system. Well again, like I said, we have 00:22:07.940 --> 00:22:12.420 a lot of shortwave listening stations, just receiving 00:22:12.420 --> 00:22:15.960 stations. We got the club stations, you know, 00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:19.740 where you have to be a club member of, but again 00:22:19.740 --> 00:22:23.190 we just have a variety of other stations that 00:22:23.190 --> 00:22:27.329 just want to, you know, donate their time and 00:22:27.329 --> 00:22:31.430 their radio so others can enjoy it. You know, 00:22:31.450 --> 00:22:34.710 those that can't get on the air, like the New 00:22:34.710 --> 00:22:38.450 Hams, for example, that are interested in HF 00:22:38.450 --> 00:22:40.430 and, you know, they just got their general and 00:22:40.430 --> 00:22:42.369 they don't really want to get a radio yet. They 00:22:42.369 --> 00:22:43.950 just want to kind of check it out and see what 00:22:43.950 --> 00:22:47.269 it's like. So, like I said, there are all kinds 00:22:47.269 --> 00:22:49.740 of stations out there all around the world. uh... 00:22:49.740 --> 00:22:53.440 we got many united states we we got an australia 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.380 still trying to get one set up in what way ike 00:22:56.380 --> 00:22:59.019 i keep paying my buddy up loy kate six l c he's 00:22:59.019 --> 00:23:02.079 got great dex location the big island but he 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:04.279 hasn't given in yet he he's got he's got some 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.039 properties like maybe stick a bird clock where 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:09.220 you're something or you know i'd really like 00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:12.710 to Take a wire and rent between all the towers 00:23:12.710 --> 00:23:15.690 and you know, be it with 400 ladder line over 00:23:15.690 --> 00:23:17.950 in that shack over there in the corner. You won't 00:23:17.950 --> 00:23:22.309 even know it's there. So the more the merrier. 00:23:22.589 --> 00:23:25.130 So that may be a good excuse to sneak over there 00:23:25.130 --> 00:23:28.730 and, uh, you know, for a few days and, uh, and 00:23:28.730 --> 00:23:31.970 do that, you know, it might be a good, good excuse 00:23:31.970 --> 00:23:35.250 to go to Hawaii. Well, Neil, I was over there 00:23:35.250 --> 00:23:38.150 this past April house sitting for two weeks. 00:23:38.150 --> 00:23:41.480 So, uh, It was a lot of fun. Those four squares, 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.440 um, really worked great too, by the way, he's 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.059 got one heck of a QTH, uh, it's a contest station. 00:23:48.460 --> 00:23:51.279 So, uh, it's, it's well, well maintained and 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:56.400 a lot of fun. Sounds like it. And, uh, so how 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.460 many, uh, do you have a count on what's on like 00:23:59.460 --> 00:24:03.980 at the moment? Oh, let's see. Right now we have, 00:24:03.980 --> 00:24:09.900 uh, 190 radios online. Out of those, 114 of them 00:24:09.900 --> 00:24:14.619 are actually club stations. And out of that total 00:24:14.619 --> 00:24:19.859 number, 135 of them are TX capable. In other 00:24:19.859 --> 00:24:23.299 words, if you have a valid ham radio license 00:24:23.299 --> 00:24:25.839 that you've uploaded and you've been approved 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:28.759 by the radio owner, in other words, he's validated 00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.599 that, okay, you've got a good license store, 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:35.180 accept approved license for those foreign amateurs. 00:24:35.710 --> 00:24:39.970 primarily in Europe, then it'll allow you to 00:24:39.970 --> 00:24:43.950 use the station. There are 135 of them out there 00:24:43.950 --> 00:24:47.569 right now that you can transmit on all around 00:24:47.569 --> 00:24:51.170 the world. All right. Well, there you go. 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And I know 00:28:09.619 --> 00:28:12.480 Scott mentioned he wanted to keep this informational 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.980 tonight regarding the service and not get into 00:28:15.980 --> 00:28:19.480 all the server configuration networking stuff. 00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:23.599 So we'll try to kind of steer away from those 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:27.859 tonight. There are some resources available we'll 00:28:27.859 --> 00:28:32.559 talk about. So we'll we'll try to keep it away 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:37.140 from the configuration issues tonight And I know 00:28:37.140 --> 00:28:40.559 we just had somebody try to call and I was in 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.660 the middle of reading all that and didn't get 00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:47.039 it So hopefully we'll get him up. Yep, actually 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:52.220 Oh, we gotta get Scott Bicknell is trying to 00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:55.960 call and If you would try it again, because we 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.920 got to get the contact request in to get the 00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:02.819 group call. So give us a call right back here 00:29:02.819 --> 00:29:06.059 and we'll get you in here. But yeah, why don't 00:29:06.059 --> 00:29:08.799 you go ahead, Scott, and talk a little bit about 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:14.099 where you do get help if you need help with the 00:29:14.099 --> 00:29:18.769 configuration and networking and all that. All 00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:21.509 righty well it quite simple just go to remote 00:29:21.509 --> 00:29:26.750 hams calm and click on the forms and You will 00:29:26.750 --> 00:29:32.009 see all kinds of Different threads that are going 00:29:32.009 --> 00:29:37.049 on and one of them might fit your problem We 00:29:37.049 --> 00:29:42.420 do have set up instructions and whatnot in the 00:29:42.420 --> 00:29:45.740 forum. So if you have any questions on the configurations, 00:29:46.339 --> 00:29:50.519 just go into the forums and 99 % of the time 00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:55.319 you'll have an answer already there. But if not, 00:29:55.420 --> 00:29:59.220 then you can always start a new thread or reply 00:29:59.220 --> 00:30:03.319 to one and hopefully you get one of the remote 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:05.960 gurus out there to answer the question for you. 00:30:06.500 --> 00:30:09.160 All right, very good. And yes, we do have Scott 00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:13.180 Bicknell in here So why don't you go ahead and 00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:28.980 ask Scott ask Scott your question? Yeah, we're 00:30:28.980 --> 00:30:31.980 losing you a little bit there, but thank you 00:30:31.980 --> 00:30:33.940 saying just wanted to put in a good word for 00:30:33.940 --> 00:30:37.579 remote hams Yep, we've had a remote ham station 00:30:37.579 --> 00:30:40.779 in northern Michigan loves sharing our station 00:30:40.779 --> 00:30:54.819 the call is W1 BIC and Remote hams Well, that's 00:30:54.819 --> 00:30:57.140 great. Thanks a lot Scott. I really appreciate 00:30:57.140 --> 00:30:59.759 it and I'm glad that you guys are able to use 00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:03.809 it to your advantage and find out that it works 00:31:03.809 --> 00:31:06.730 great and Thank you so much. Appreciate that 00:31:06.730 --> 00:31:11.609 and the let me just tell you that Roger here 00:31:11.609 --> 00:31:28.420 Yeah, Roger W ARJ he's One of the developers 00:31:28.420 --> 00:31:31.920 with Brandon and he does a good job and he's 00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.799 usually all over the forums. Him and Brandon 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.980 seem to answer the majority of the questions. 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.900 But yeah, we got a lot of good team members out 00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:41.480 there and that's what it's all about. Like I 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.000 said, it's an online remote based community and 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.180 we all kind of work together and we got a problem. 00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:51.579 We'll solve it. So that's great. Thanks again, 00:31:51.579 --> 00:31:55.799 Scott. I appreciate it. Thanks for calling Scott. 00:31:55.859 --> 00:31:58.140 Appreciate. All right. Take care. Have a great 00:31:58.140 --> 00:32:02.079 night. All right, you too. All right. Thanks 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.660 for giving us a call. It's 812 -638 -4261 if 00:32:06.660 --> 00:32:11.119 you'd like to give us a call. 812 -638 -4261 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:15.259 or you can Skype us or tweet us over here. We're 00:32:15.259 --> 00:32:19.480 at HamTalk Live is where you'll find us and we 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:25.549 do have time for a few more questions and We'll 00:32:25.549 --> 00:32:29.069 talk about that and if you do have a station 00:32:29.069 --> 00:32:33.250 like these guys That you want to put on remote 00:32:33.250 --> 00:32:36.750 hams. How do you go about getting that accomplished? 00:32:40.049 --> 00:32:44.250 Well, you gotta do a little bit of a research 00:32:44.250 --> 00:32:47.650 and well personally got to download the software 00:32:47.650 --> 00:32:52.700 and be somewhat literate and being able to Set 00:32:52.700 --> 00:32:56.380 things up in other words You got to set up your 00:32:56.380 --> 00:32:59.579 your audio and you got people adjust your audio 00:32:59.579 --> 00:33:02.440 you need to also make sure that your radio is 00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.740 talking to your computer and Then you have the 00:33:06.740 --> 00:33:10.960 the router issues Port forwarding we're starting 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.640 to work around port forwarding back. We do have 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:22.079 a Function in the in the orb server software 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.819 where it looks for a UPnP type of Routers which 00:33:27.819 --> 00:33:30.980 will come automatically open ports for you So 00:33:30.980 --> 00:33:33.339 you don't have to go in there and do that, but 00:33:33.339 --> 00:33:37.039 that can be a little bit of a problem, but I 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:42.099 Like I have a name for for for P &P It's supposed 00:33:42.099 --> 00:33:44.740 to be plug -and -play, but I always called it 00:33:44.740 --> 00:33:51.299 plug -and -pray Exactly plug -and -pray Like 00:33:51.299 --> 00:33:53.279 I said, you know that the forms are out there 00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:55.200 too, you know when you have that that little 00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.400 roadblock and there will be a roadblock I'm sure 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:02.019 because of routers, but Yeah, once you get all 00:34:02.019 --> 00:34:04.599 up and going then You know you kind of figure 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.160 out, you know, what kind of rules you want to 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.599 make for your radio? Can I go from there because 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.179 you just might be limited to maybe 40 and 80 00:34:13.179 --> 00:34:15.539 meters? So yeah might have to get in there and 00:34:15.539 --> 00:34:18.179 configure your radio So nobody can transmit on 00:34:18.179 --> 00:34:21.199 any other pan except for 40 and 80 meters, which 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.039 is nice about the software We have so many options. 00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:28.400 It's not even funny and again security is great, 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:33.820 but you know every most every button that you 00:34:33.820 --> 00:34:37.360 have on the radio you can do remotely. And again, 00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:39.900 if you're an Ellicraft fan, you got Ellicraft 00:34:39.900 --> 00:34:42.760 equipment, you're good, you're golden. Brandon 00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:46.119 is an employee of Ellicraft and he's the engineer 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.800 in charge of doing all the remote stuff for Ellicraft. 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.099 So I guess you could say the software is kind 00:34:51.099 --> 00:34:53.739 of tailored for Ellicraft stuff. So if you have 00:34:53.739 --> 00:34:57.079 an Ellicraft radio, you can call Brandon and 00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:01.550 get great Ellicraft remote support. by the uh 00:35:01.550 --> 00:35:04.769 by the creator of the software which is uh pretty 00:35:04.769 --> 00:35:09.289 cool all right well sounds like uh you're good 00:35:09.289 --> 00:35:13.769 to go on on that and uh we've got others as well 00:35:13.769 --> 00:35:17.610 but that's uh kind of the way it's gone so uh 00:35:17.610 --> 00:35:20.849 if you're an alacrf fan that's uh another thing 00:35:20.849 --> 00:35:25.449 you can you can do so again if you have a question 00:35:25.449 --> 00:35:30.239 uh Tweet us at HamTalkLive or Skype at HamTalkLive 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.719 or you can do it the old -fashioned way. It's 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:38.300 812 -638 -4261. Just dial the phone number and 00:35:38.300 --> 00:35:40.519 we can get you in here. We have a few minutes 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.260 left with Scott. So if you have some questions 00:35:43.260 --> 00:35:45.940 about getting into remote hands, either putting 00:35:45.940 --> 00:35:49.980 your station on or operating stations through 00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:59.500 that, give us a call. It's 812 -638 -4261. Now 00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:07.199 you've done a lot of VHF and UHF stuff, especially 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.139 I know satellites and space and that kind of 00:36:10.139 --> 00:36:13.460 thing. So have you done any any remote stuff 00:36:13.460 --> 00:36:20.340 with that? Not really. I did back in the 80s. 00:36:20.340 --> 00:36:25.639 I had put up a packet J .J. Peter. On the International 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:29.079 or the mirror space station frequency and it 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:34.360 was a nice elevation and like 30 watts and a 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.179 perfect antenna for for working satellites and 00:36:37.179 --> 00:36:41.039 it was out in the clear so I did a little packet 00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.579 thing through that but other than that I haven't 00:36:43.579 --> 00:36:47.059 done any remote stuff about working satellites. 00:36:47.619 --> 00:36:50.019 I haven't worked too many satellites here recently. 00:36:50.659 --> 00:36:54.880 I've primarily been down the lower HF bands and 00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.559 thinking on VHF and UHF but up there I'm usually 00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.360 on the side band or the digital modes and I really 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.079 like FT8, that's a great mode by the way. So 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.699 getting very popular for those that are again 00:37:08.699 --> 00:37:10.840 in a limited situation where maybe they can only 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:14.239 run a magnetic loop and 20 watts in their apartment 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.820 but they got the radio there and they can use 00:37:16.820 --> 00:37:19.380 it so the digital modes are really starting to 00:37:19.380 --> 00:37:23.440 shine on those CC and hard guys that, uh, you 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.119 know, can run an inside antenna, just, uh, can't 00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:29.699 get out much of a signal. Yeah. And FT eight 00:37:29.699 --> 00:37:33.119 is just taken off, uh, like a rocket. And so 00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.860 we're going to have to do a show or two on, on 00:37:35.860 --> 00:37:39.340 some of those newer, uh, digital modes like FT 00:37:39.340 --> 00:37:45.429 eight and, uh, uh, we're had, um, Don on N1DG 00:37:45.429 --> 00:37:48.010 a couple of weeks ago said that they're actually 00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:51.789 working on a de -expedition version of FT8. So 00:37:51.789 --> 00:37:54.989 they're hoping to take it on Baker Island and 00:37:54.989 --> 00:37:58.469 do some of that. So all kinds of stuff going 00:37:58.469 --> 00:38:02.530 on in the digital world right now. Oh, yeah. 00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:05.710 Yeah, like I said, you know, back when I started 00:38:05.710 --> 00:38:08.449 Remote Hams, we didn't have a computer and just 00:38:08.449 --> 00:38:14.010 used VHF, UHF and Whatever we had available. 00:38:14.989 --> 00:38:18.769 The products that they have out today is just 00:38:18.769 --> 00:38:23.469 mind boggling. I remember building TR relays 00:38:23.469 --> 00:38:28.809 and building my antennas and using Coke bottles 00:38:28.809 --> 00:38:34.159 for vertical base supports. I don't know, old 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.760 school MacGyver stuff. Now you can go out and 00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.619 buy all the stuff, and it's all pre -made, pre 00:38:39.619 --> 00:38:41.860 -tuned, and put it together, and you're on the 00:38:41.860 --> 00:38:44.639 air, which is great if you can do that, but if 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:49.059 you can't, then again, the remote's a great option, 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:51.800 especially if you're traveling, and there's one 00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:55.239 guy I heard on the air the other day, and he 00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.099 was saying, he's taking a little vacation and 00:38:58.099 --> 00:39:01.159 whatnot, and his wife says, no radio, you aren't. 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:05.079 taking a radio with you. But if you have your 00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.239 Android phone, for example, um, yeah, maybe you 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:10.380 could, uh, you know, get on the air occasionally, 00:39:10.380 --> 00:39:15.300 you know, go to the men's room for a while. Get 00:39:15.300 --> 00:39:19.940 on the air, speak in a contact or two. Yeah, 00:39:20.059 --> 00:39:23.599 exactly. In fact, uh, one of our, uh, loan pioneer 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:27.400 repeater club, uh, or president Runs a net a 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.739 lot and he travels a lot He's an insurance guy 00:39:30.739 --> 00:39:33.139 and so he spends a little bit time on the road 00:39:33.139 --> 00:39:35.559 going to different areas that have been been 00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.400 hit by disasters or whatnot, so One night he 00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:43.039 had to run the net and he was Sitting in the 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:47.150 the local cafe in the airport has the Android 00:39:47.150 --> 00:39:50.210 phone and he ran our whole net, which generally 00:39:50.210 --> 00:39:53.010 lasts about 45 minutes. So it'd be like doing 00:39:53.010 --> 00:39:57.150 your broadcast now remotely. And, uh, he did 00:39:57.150 --> 00:39:59.869 a bang up job and it sounded great. I was, I 00:39:59.869 --> 00:40:05.949 was really surprised. Yeah. There's no end to 00:40:05.949 --> 00:40:10.309 the possibilities. And, uh, you know, I can, 00:40:10.539 --> 00:40:14.179 actually now this broadcast I can do with an 00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:20.619 iPhone app. So it's just amazing how all this 00:40:20.619 --> 00:40:23.300 technology has come along and the remotes are 00:40:23.300 --> 00:40:26.239 just so much more commonplace now than they used 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:30.940 to be. I remember wanting so much to set up a 00:40:30.940 --> 00:40:33.760 remote base on the repeater so that we could 00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:37.800 control it that way. And now it's like, you know, 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:43.880 there's remotehams .com so we don't have to go 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:48.199 through all that process. Well yeah and you know 00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:52.480 it's an all -in -one situation solution whereas 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.420 you don't need TeamBeer, you don't need Skype, 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.400 you know it's all in one software suite. Your 00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.480 audio and control and everything else is right 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.940 there so it makes it a lot easier being on the 00:41:04.940 --> 00:41:06.739 go and there are a lot of radios to choose from 00:41:06.739 --> 00:41:12.110 out there so you know it'd be a lot of fun. Yeah, 00:41:12.489 --> 00:41:16.349 well I appreciate you doing that I'm sorry for 00:41:16.349 --> 00:41:23.030 the Reason that you were drove to doing this 00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:29.750 And yeah the cruise line not being too cooperative 00:41:29.750 --> 00:41:35.530 but Glad that that you've done it and very useful 00:41:35.530 --> 00:41:38.889 and hopefully people will know about that technology 00:41:38.889 --> 00:41:42.869 more and get some use out of it. So Scott, thanks 00:41:42.869 --> 00:41:46.710 for coming on and filling us in on RemoteHams 00:41:46.710 --> 00:41:50.789 .com. Right, well thanks for having me and you 00:41:50.789 --> 00:41:53.469 know, it's out there to use. Again, it's free, 00:41:53.670 --> 00:41:56.090 you know, build it and they will come. I said 00:41:56.090 --> 00:41:58.590 to Brandon, I said, you know, it'll get popular 00:41:58.590 --> 00:42:01.510 and you know, slowly during time, you know, it 00:42:01.510 --> 00:42:03.590 gets bigger and bigger and bigger. So, you know, 00:42:03.670 --> 00:42:05.889 it's great and thanks to everybody out there 00:42:05.889 --> 00:42:08.750 that donates their time and radios. We really 00:42:08.750 --> 00:42:11.309 appreciate it. A lot of other guys appreciate 00:42:11.309 --> 00:42:14.190 it. I just want to make one last comment that 00:42:14.190 --> 00:42:17.409 this is just a fantastic hobby. I've been a ham 00:42:17.409 --> 00:42:20.730 since 15. It's just been a great hobby. A lot 00:42:20.730 --> 00:42:23.210 of great guys out there. Technology is a great 00:42:23.210 --> 00:42:25.449 way of learning and a lot of fun. Thanks for 00:42:25.449 --> 00:42:27.730 having me, Neil. You and everybody have a great 00:42:27.730 --> 00:42:30.690 evening and hope to see you on Remote Hams. All 00:42:30.690 --> 00:42:33.769 right. Also too, Scott, before you go, if you 00:42:33.769 --> 00:42:36.590 want to support Remote Hams, how do you do that? 00:42:37.769 --> 00:42:40.190 Well, you have you know, there was a donate button 00:42:40.190 --> 00:42:43.710 on the on the home page remotehamms .com so if 00:42:43.710 --> 00:42:46.769 you go up there you can click on the donate button 00:42:46.769 --> 00:42:51.730 and pay via PayPal or credit card or whatever, 00:42:51.730 --> 00:42:54.929 but we accept donations and we went off at donations 00:42:54.929 --> 00:42:58.329 All right. Very good one to get that in there. 00:42:58.329 --> 00:43:01.590 So thank you so much for coming on we appreciate 00:43:01.590 --> 00:43:05.130 it and appreciate your service and We look forward 00:43:05.130 --> 00:43:08.690 to hearing more people from remotehams .com. 00:43:09.809 --> 00:43:11.829 Well, thank you very much, Neil. You have a great 00:43:11.829 --> 00:43:14.429 evening. Happy holidays to you. And thanks for 00:43:14.429 --> 00:43:18.630 having me on and hope to talk to you on there 00:43:18.630 --> 00:43:22.820 soon. Very good. Yes, absolutely. Well, that's 00:43:22.820 --> 00:43:25.800 a wrap for this week's edition of HamTalk Live. 00:43:26.219 --> 00:43:30.639 Thanks to my guest, Scott Avery, WA6LIE, and 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.139 everyone out there in cyberspace for listening 00:43:33.139 --> 00:43:36.840 and calling in. Next week is Thanksgiving, so 00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.659 we're going to take the week off and give thanks 00:43:39.659 --> 00:43:46.300 next week, and I've got to watch the annual traditional 00:43:46.300 --> 00:43:53.139 WKRP Cincinnati turkey giveaway episode Between 00:43:53.139 --> 00:43:56.639 now and then that's one of my favorites and always 00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:59.699 watch that during Thanksgiving. So we may post 00:43:59.699 --> 00:44:03.610 that our social media sites next week but the 00:44:03.610 --> 00:44:06.429 following Thursday we'll be back at nine o 'clock 00:44:06.429 --> 00:44:10.829 Eastern Time and Ralph Fedor K0IR will be here 00:44:10.829 --> 00:44:13.730 to talk about the Buffet Island De -Expedition. 00:44:13.730 --> 00:44:17.050 He's going to give us an update since last time 00:44:17.050 --> 00:44:19.769 we talked to him about the De -Expedition so 00:44:19.769 --> 00:44:24.269 be sure to tune in for that. So for a list of 00:44:24.269 --> 00:44:26.889 all of our upcoming guests you can get that at 00:44:26.889 --> 00:44:30.519 HamTalkLive .com. Just click on the schedule 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.539 link. So for now this is Neorap WB9VPG saying 00:44:34.539 --> 00:44:38.920 seven three seven five and as Les Nessman says 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:41.639 this is Les Nessman saying good day and may the 00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:54.099 good DX be yours. As God is my witness I thought 00:44:54.099 --> 00:44:55.380 turkeys could fly.