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We're gonna talk antennas and 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:53.319 Santa Claus and Christmas and all kinds of stuff. 00:01:54.180 --> 00:01:56.640 Antenna installations around the world and a 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:59.819 gift for our listeners from W0QH is what the 00:01:59.819 --> 00:02:02.890 script says anyway. It's recorded live on Thursday, 00:02:02.909 --> 00:02:06.709 December 21st, 2017. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, 00:02:06.870 --> 00:02:10.090 WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning in to this episode 00:02:10.090 --> 00:02:14.189 of HamTalk Live. Tonight, we are joined by Emmet 00:02:14.189 --> 00:02:19.650 Honesty III, W0QH, the chief engineer at Radio 00:02:19.650 --> 00:02:22.469 Waves, and we'll be talking about some of his 00:02:22.469 --> 00:02:26.370 antenna installation trips. For instance, the 00:02:26.370 --> 00:02:29.930 Pearl Harbor special event on the USS Batfish. 00:02:30.270 --> 00:02:34.090 Emmett has a gift for all of our listeners so 00:02:34.090 --> 00:02:37.229 make sure you stay tuned for that and we'll take 00:02:37.229 --> 00:02:42.229 your calls live in just a few minutes. Last week 00:02:42.229 --> 00:02:45.750 on the show Dr. Scott Wright KZeroMD graciously 00:02:45.750 --> 00:02:49.460 joined us to talk about his new role as the editor 00:02:49.460 --> 00:02:52.960 of the National Contest Journal and talked a 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.580 little contesting and some rig ideas. 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That's 00:07:22.649 --> 00:07:28.970 Radio Waves with a Z. Radio W -A -V -Z dot com. 00:07:29.910 --> 00:07:31.910 So Emmett's going to join us here for a second, 00:07:32.189 --> 00:07:36.550 but actually Rochelle is with us. So good evening 00:07:36.550 --> 00:07:41.949 Rochelle. Well, hello Neil. Well, you can fill 00:07:41.949 --> 00:07:46.629 us in while Emmett's running back here. You can 00:07:46.629 --> 00:07:48.829 fill us in a little bit on what you guys have 00:07:48.829 --> 00:07:52.310 been doing tonight, actually. You've got a bit... 00:07:52.310 --> 00:07:55.949 You all are so busy doing all these different 00:07:55.949 --> 00:07:59.069 things and you actually had a little on -air 00:07:59.069 --> 00:08:03.430 activity going on tonight. Yes, we did. We had 00:08:03.430 --> 00:08:07.779 Santa... and the kids of the Incline Village 00:08:07.779 --> 00:08:12.120 of where we live come up and talk to Santa in 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:19.939 the MCOM -1 van and as you know that we've been 00:08:19.939 --> 00:08:24.740 caretakers of that van so we had we hooked up 00:08:24.740 --> 00:08:28.500 one of our antennas and the kids were able to 00:08:28.500 --> 00:08:32.700 come in and talk to Santa. It was awesome. I 00:08:32.700 --> 00:08:35.860 had mom taking pictures of the kids talking on 00:08:35.860 --> 00:08:39.620 the on the radio. It was really cute. Oh, that 00:08:39.620 --> 00:08:43.539 sounds great. So yeah, I'm calm one there. That's 00:08:43.539 --> 00:08:45.720 the big if you if you don't know what I'm calm 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:49.889 one is it's it's this big van that's decked out 00:08:49.889 --> 00:08:53.769 with all kinds of ICOM gear and radio waves antennas 00:08:53.769 --> 00:08:58.169 and and it's set up to be kind of a portable 00:08:58.169 --> 00:09:02.590 communications facility and it's been making 00:09:02.590 --> 00:09:05.450 some of the rounds to some of the bigger ham 00:09:05.450 --> 00:09:09.210 conventions and hamfests and places just kind 00:09:09.210 --> 00:09:13.470 of showing off what what it can do and so tonight 00:09:13.470 --> 00:09:16.970 some kids got to talk to Santa from EMCOM1 so 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:22.460 That's a pretty cool deal. Now Rochelle is the 00:09:22.460 --> 00:09:26.200 president of Radio Waves and Emmett's wife, if 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:29.179 you're wondering who Rochelle is. We just kind 00:09:29.179 --> 00:09:34.220 of said Rochelle's here, so we'll make sure we 00:09:34.220 --> 00:09:42.600 explain all of that. So you guys have had a chance 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.940 to travel all over the place putting in antennas 00:09:45.940 --> 00:09:49.159 and some of these special event stations, and 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:52.759 I know we're going to talk about the USS batfish 00:09:52.759 --> 00:10:00.919 a little bit here later on and You know you're 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:04.220 out out doing the Santa thing tonight so now 00:10:04.220 --> 00:10:07.299 the Santa thing were you doing that on the on 00:10:07.299 --> 00:10:11.179 the HF net or was that on a Repeater or what 00:10:11.179 --> 00:10:14.539 were you doing there? Well, actually I do believe 00:10:14.539 --> 00:10:18.610 it was a with one of our local guys who has a 00:10:18.610 --> 00:10:24.549 G5 RV, which will be getting a DX80 antenna. 00:10:25.230 --> 00:10:30.950 There you go. And in fact, I didn't even get 00:10:30.950 --> 00:10:34.429 his call sign. I should have. I was kind of going 00:10:34.429 --> 00:10:36.629 back and forth from the clubhouse to the van. 00:10:37.450 --> 00:10:42.350 But the RV just sitting out here in the parking 00:10:42.350 --> 00:10:49.240 lot and They have one of the HF set up for this 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:52.779 particular, I think we had a repeater. We're 00:10:52.779 --> 00:10:55.460 far enough away from St. Charles where we can 00:10:55.460 --> 00:10:58.679 hit the repeater, but through the forest fell 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:02.600 repeater. So it worked out really well that the 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:05.059 night could not have been better, Neil. It's 00:11:05.059 --> 00:11:09.120 like 50 degrees out. So we had a really, really 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.759 good climate. Everything was just went our way. 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.419 Well, it's a good thing it was tonight because 00:11:16.419 --> 00:11:27.200 that's not gonna last much longer Or even even 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.700 expecting some snow out here in the Midwest here 00:11:29.700 --> 00:11:34.200 before long well Let's see here. We're gonna 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:39.360 we're gonna try to to keep on track here One 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:41.059 of the things that we were going to talk about 00:11:41.059 --> 00:11:46.009 was or some Holiday gift ideas and I know we 00:11:46.009 --> 00:11:49.490 we didn't have a chance to To get that in early 00:11:49.490 --> 00:11:52.830 enough, you know for people to get stuff ordered 00:11:52.830 --> 00:11:55.490 and everything But but maybe there's still some 00:11:55.490 --> 00:11:58.049 ideas that we can throw out there in case there's 00:11:58.049 --> 00:12:01.049 a birthday anniversary Arbor Day st. Patrick's 00:12:01.049 --> 00:12:04.490 Day, you know some excuse, you know You know 00:12:04.490 --> 00:12:09.129 how us hams are. Oh, I do. We've always got to 00:12:09.129 --> 00:12:12.669 pick up some new gear. So any recommendations 00:12:12.669 --> 00:12:20.409 for the gift column? Well, if you have, say for 00:12:20.409 --> 00:12:24.509 instance, if your husband or boyfriend or even 00:12:24.509 --> 00:12:29.129 someone you know close to you might have a regular 00:12:29.129 --> 00:12:32.769 DX antenna, just getting an upgrade balance for 00:12:32.769 --> 00:12:36.669 them would be always good, just to a pro line. 00:12:37.990 --> 00:12:43.169 But high reliability ferrite makes such a difference 00:12:43.169 --> 00:12:47.769 between just a regular DX to a pro line. That's 00:12:47.769 --> 00:12:51.309 one of them. We had another call in last week 00:12:51.309 --> 00:12:54.110 saying that on her son's Christmas list, she 00:12:54.110 --> 00:12:57.730 had a 75 meter double bazooka, but he wrote 80 00:12:57.730 --> 00:13:00.200 meter on it. And I'm thinking, okay. You don't 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:02.480 want 80 meter because I don't think he does CW 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:11.940 75 so She got him that and there's been a lot 00:13:11.940 --> 00:13:14.340 of people who would call in and say can I you 00:13:14.340 --> 00:13:18.080 know, they had you on my lit on the list and 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.980 They do these frequencies. What do you suggest? 00:13:20.980 --> 00:13:23.799 They they do a lot of that every year. So but 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:28.080 some of the the things that really will rock 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:32.179 your world, obviously, as a hex beam. But the 00:13:32.179 --> 00:13:35.759 actual scout, and Emmett will mention this later, 00:13:35.820 --> 00:13:39.600 when he had the scout up at the batfish, they 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.279 were pulling in 80 meters off of the 40, which 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.820 was really cool. I don't know if it was because 00:13:46.820 --> 00:13:52.519 he was on a big boat. I didn't know. Hard to 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:57.889 say. But there were a lot of people who were 00:13:57.889 --> 00:14:00.730 pleased with the antenna and just played with 00:14:00.730 --> 00:14:05.389 it all night long. But the Scout, with the extra 00:14:05.389 --> 00:14:08.450 40 meter added onto it, is a really good antenna. 00:14:10.210 --> 00:14:14.610 But some of the things that you wouldn't normally 00:14:14.610 --> 00:14:16.409 think about so that you can put in your attic 00:14:16.409 --> 00:14:20.110 or even along your eaves, the NFED Halfways, 00:14:20.169 --> 00:14:24.090 I have a friend who does a lot of fishing. And 00:14:24.090 --> 00:14:28.259 he will take an NFID halfway, which is our Pathfinder, 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.519 and he takes that faithfully. He goes fishing 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:34.620 twice a week, and he takes it twice, and he just 00:14:34.620 --> 00:14:38.059 puts it up out in the trees, and he just has 00:14:38.059 --> 00:14:42.100 such a good response with his antenna. He just 00:14:42.100 --> 00:14:44.480 can't understand how anyone could not buy one 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:47.879 of these antennas. I said, Craig, this is obviously, 00:14:47.899 --> 00:14:54.090 you know, works really well for you. So the the 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:56.149 power finders are really good antenna as well 00:14:56.149 --> 00:14:59.490 But especially if you're if you guys are fishing 00:14:59.490 --> 00:15:02.409 and playing on the radio at the same time. There 00:15:02.409 --> 00:15:06.970 you go Tie both of them together and I know there's 00:15:06.970 --> 00:15:11.450 this there's this guy on on on Google Plus in 00:15:11.450 --> 00:15:14.870 the ham radio community. That's always posting 00:15:14.870 --> 00:15:19.490 fishing pictures always and I think I think he 00:15:19.490 --> 00:15:22.370 would be one of the prime candidates for that 00:15:22.350 --> 00:15:27.909 that that would work. Now I know Emmett was going 00:15:27.909 --> 00:15:30.169 to mention too because we had talked about a 00:15:30.169 --> 00:15:34.529 little bit earlier that some of the ham radio 00:15:34.529 --> 00:15:37.669 vendors have gift cards and so you know you can 00:15:37.669 --> 00:15:40.169 always get a gift card if you don't know exactly 00:15:40.169 --> 00:15:43.590 what to get you can you can always go for the 00:15:43.590 --> 00:15:50.710 gift card. Yep and even if you want to buy You 00:15:50.710 --> 00:15:53.909 can go in as a club. You always get club discounts 00:15:53.909 --> 00:15:56.750 if five or more from your club want to buy an 00:15:56.750 --> 00:16:02.370 antenna or buy any antenna and then you keep 00:16:02.370 --> 00:16:05.649 a percentage off of if five or more buy from 00:16:05.649 --> 00:16:09.049 your club. So there's always discounts. There's 00:16:09.049 --> 00:16:11.769 always gift cards and we mail those or email 00:16:11.769 --> 00:16:16.149 those out as they're given. So yeah, you can 00:16:16.149 --> 00:16:22.700 do that too. All right. Yep. Yep. Last minute 00:16:22.700 --> 00:16:25.840 shoppers. And as they say on, uh, on the movie, 00:16:25.980 --> 00:16:28.399 UHF, if you've been waiting for the last minute, 00:16:29.220 --> 00:16:32.820 this is it. This is the last minute. So you gotta 00:16:32.820 --> 00:16:37.779 do that. One of my favorite shows, Neil. Good 00:16:37.779 --> 00:16:42.480 job. Oh, you're a UHF fan. All right. Very good. 00:16:43.100 --> 00:16:46.759 Oh, yes. That's my favorite movie of all time. 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:51.279 Well, I'm going to skip ahead a little bit because 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:55.320 Emmett's still off doing his thing here. He is. 00:16:55.340 --> 00:17:00.009 Off doing his thing. Yep, so you kind of answered 00:17:00.009 --> 00:17:02.470 one of the questions that came in on Twitter 00:17:02.470 --> 00:17:07.470 already from Ian w1jiw And he wanted to know 00:17:07.470 --> 00:17:11.809 how to tune one of those radio waves double bazookas 00:17:11.809 --> 00:17:16.210 for 80 meters so you kind of gave it away there, 00:17:16.210 --> 00:17:19.890 but you might kind of explain what's going on 00:17:19.890 --> 00:17:23.190 with the with the double bazooka and the coax 00:17:23.190 --> 00:17:28.490 and and all that Now the there's one cut longer 00:17:28.490 --> 00:17:33.289 than the other 75 is going to be shorter And 00:17:33.289 --> 00:17:35.250 so you're going to have a hard time. You're going 00:17:35.250 --> 00:17:38.170 to have a hard time trying to bring in 80 meters, 00:17:38.190 --> 00:17:42.150 but You either have to have you know cut one 00:17:42.150 --> 00:17:44.630 way or another I mean, that's what we have two 00:17:44.630 --> 00:17:49.069 different types. So If you do have a 75 meter 00:17:49.069 --> 00:17:51.109 there there might be something that you can do 00:17:51.109 --> 00:17:55.500 to bring in the 80 meter But I don't know what 00:17:55.500 --> 00:17:58.140 that would be yeah now Emmett was telling me 00:17:58.140 --> 00:18:00.700 earlier that it's just pretty much got to be 00:18:00.700 --> 00:18:04.880 cut that way because there's a formula involved 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:09.319 for the length and so you can't just You know 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:12.200 chop a little bit off on the ends and expect 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:17.339 it to work because it's Proportional to some 00:18:17.339 --> 00:18:23.019 other stuff and so It just, it doesn't work. 00:18:24.700 --> 00:18:27.700 So if that's the problem, if you're trying to 00:18:27.700 --> 00:18:33.299 tune... that, uh, for 80 versus 75, it might 00:18:33.299 --> 00:18:35.599 be the situation like you were just talking about 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.900 with the, the, uh, the gift that you were talking 00:18:38.900 --> 00:18:42.019 about, you know? Uh, well, which, which is it? 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:43.920 Are you, are you working 80 or are you working 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:48.400 75? And a lot of people call 75 80 and don't 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:52.160 make the distinction between 75 and 80 for CW 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.660 and sideband. So that does get into some confusion. 00:18:56.619 --> 00:19:01.339 Right now you can if the G if the double bazooka 00:19:01.339 --> 00:19:05.200 the one that you own is in good shape We will 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:09.720 trade No problem. The difference is only ten 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:13.619 dollars so if you want to you know, send the 00:19:13.619 --> 00:19:18.920 75 back and Get an 80 meter. That's no problem 00:19:19.109 --> 00:19:22.309 as long as it collects and everything's in good 00:19:22.309 --> 00:19:24.789 working order. We can always clean up an antenna 00:19:24.789 --> 00:19:28.369 and fill it as used. We sometimes give those 00:19:28.369 --> 00:19:31.470 away as well. But we just want you on the air. 00:19:31.549 --> 00:19:35.609 I mean, that's the whole point behind the radio 00:19:35.609 --> 00:19:40.950 waves. But also, if you have a double bazooka, 00:19:41.049 --> 00:19:43.950 you own one, you buy another one, you get the 00:19:43.950 --> 00:19:49.619 third one free. Okay, very good. So there's some 00:19:49.619 --> 00:19:53.200 some options for that Ian. I hope that answers 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.700 your question and Tell you what we're gonna do. 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:58.920 We're gonna go ahead and take our other break 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:02.759 and we'll be back and hopefully we'll get Emmet 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:05.039 on here to talk a little bit about the batfish 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:08.779 and We're going to talk about a fan dipole. We 00:20:08.779 --> 00:20:13.559 got a question about that and a gift for everybody 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:16.619 listening tonight. 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And that number to have on hand from the 00:22:37.650 --> 00:22:44.250 phone calls 812 -NET -HAM -1 812 -638 -4261 or 00:22:44.250 --> 00:22:48.410 you can Skype us or tweet us at HamTalk Live 00:22:48.410 --> 00:22:52.490 and we're actually gonna have Rochelle take another 00:22:52.490 --> 00:23:00.160 question here and Nick W6NIK wants to know the 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:04.099 key to making a fan dipole. And so my response 00:23:04.099 --> 00:23:09.019 is that you need somebody that is really into 00:23:09.019 --> 00:23:15.920 University of Kentucky basketball. And get one 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:21.200 of us out there and we're a fan. And we can have 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:26.019 the dipole. Like put her arms out both ways. 00:23:26.259 --> 00:23:29.539 I don't know if that'll tune up but But what 00:23:29.539 --> 00:23:32.700 what about a fan dipole? What what's what's the 00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:41.220 secret to that? Primarily You work with a voltage 00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:47.359 balance. Oh look I see Oh here he comes We'll 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:54.109 hand it off to him Go ahead, Neil. Ask that question. 00:23:54.309 --> 00:23:57.150 All right. We'll ask that again. There he is. 00:23:57.349 --> 00:24:01.170 There he is. It's Emmett W0QH. And we were kind 00:24:01.170 --> 00:24:03.490 of skipping around on things, waiting on you 00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:06.809 here. So we were just talking about the fan dipole 00:24:06.809 --> 00:24:10.809 question. So Nick, W6NIK, wants to know the key 00:24:10.809 --> 00:24:15.990 to making a fan dipole. And my response was get 00:24:15.990 --> 00:24:18.990 one of us University of Kentucky basketball fans. 00:24:19.779 --> 00:24:22.259 Mm -hmm, and we can put our arms out to each 00:24:22.259 --> 00:24:30.859 side And and that would work but Rochelle acted 00:24:30.859 --> 00:24:34.680 like she kind of liked that response, but I'm 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.359 not sure so once you give a good response to 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:42.119 that Okay, well a fan dipole is works best when 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.839 you start out with It's just a dipole number 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.759 one and what you're doing is you're adding multiple 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:53.769 dipoles of similar harmonics, i .e., for instance, 00:24:53.829 --> 00:24:56.829 let's say you want an 80 meter, a 40 meter, a 00:24:56.829 --> 00:24:59.809 20 meter, and a 10 meter. That's optimum. So 00:24:59.809 --> 00:25:02.009 what you can do is you literally cut a dipole 00:25:02.009 --> 00:25:04.930 for 80, always cut it long, because you never 00:25:04.930 --> 00:25:09.150 know what your environment's really going to 00:25:09.150 --> 00:25:11.609 be like. And then you cut the next one for 40. 00:25:12.170 --> 00:25:14.490 And then after that, you cut it for 20. And then 00:25:14.490 --> 00:25:18.039 after that, you cut it for 10. And if you're 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:20.140 going to set it up as an inverted V, always add 00:25:20.140 --> 00:25:24.579 5%, plus a little bit extra. And then what you'll 00:25:24.579 --> 00:25:28.440 do is you could go with, spacing does affect 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.279 the fan dipole in the sense that if you have 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.640 it right next to the other elements that are, 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:36.960 you know, let's say of similar resonance, they'll 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:38.839 affect it a little bit by making everything look 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.920 a little bit longer. And what you'll do is you 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:45.519 just start tuning everything. You'll start at, 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.920 at 80 meters and then you'll get it close to 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.480 resonance, a little bit below where you really 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:53.279 want it to work. And then you go to 40 and do 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:56.119 the same thing. And then you go to 20 and you 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.339 go to 10. Now the area is like 15 meters, 12 00:25:59.339 --> 00:26:01.759 meters and all that. It's not always a good idea 00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:06.000 to throw those bands in there because they create 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:09.400 a little bit of what you'd call parasitic harmonics 00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:13.799 in the mix. And it'll work, but it may not give 00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.710 you optimum Let's just say SWR or matching. In 00:26:16.710 --> 00:26:19.089 other words, it won't be a perfect 50 ohms or 00:26:19.089 --> 00:26:24.109 75 ohms. Now, one advantage of the fan dipole 00:26:24.109 --> 00:26:27.690 is that, think about this, some people, you know, 00:26:27.690 --> 00:26:31.730 they'll run like these NEC diagrams and, you 00:26:31.730 --> 00:26:34.829 know, simulations and so on. And they'll discover 00:26:34.829 --> 00:26:36.910 that it looks just like a dipole. But the reality 00:26:36.910 --> 00:26:39.450 is, is you still have electrons flowing through 00:26:39.450 --> 00:26:42.640 that 80 meter wire, that 40 meter wire. and the 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.259 20 meter wire, let's say, on 20 meters. So what 00:26:45.259 --> 00:26:48.339 you actually have now is you have one element 00:26:48.339 --> 00:26:51.119 that is two wavelengths long. You have another 00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:53.660 element that is one wavelength long. But then 00:26:53.660 --> 00:26:55.859 you have another element that is the half wavelength. 00:26:56.900 --> 00:27:00.480 And they all have a certain effect. And it gives 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.900 you a little bit more gain and a lot more sensitivity 00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:06.440 as well, which is kind of neat. When the whole 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:09.799 antenna works together, it's quite a nice combination. 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:14.069 Did that help? I think that does it. I think 00:27:14.069 --> 00:27:17.029 that that's a pretty good explanation. So, so 00:27:17.029 --> 00:27:19.549 thanks for that. Well, we talked a little bit 00:27:19.549 --> 00:27:21.390 about what you've been doing tonight. And when 00:27:21.390 --> 00:27:24.809 we talked a little bit about the gift ideas and, 00:27:25.390 --> 00:27:27.869 and the double Zuka question while you were gone. 00:27:28.230 --> 00:27:31.009 So let's, let's talk about the batfish a little 00:27:31.009 --> 00:27:34.250 bit. And I saw a lot of activity on QRZ the last 00:27:34.250 --> 00:27:38.950 couple of days. You get a chance to go all over 00:27:38.950 --> 00:27:43.559 the place and put up antennas in, literally everywhere. 00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:46.660 But we were talking a little bit about this special 00:27:46.660 --> 00:27:51.720 event station that took place on the USS Batfish. 00:27:51.819 --> 00:27:54.859 So tell us a little bit about that. Well, the 00:27:54.859 --> 00:27:59.000 USS Batfish on December, well, generally what 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:01.839 they like to do is run as close to December 7th 00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.019 as they possibly can, either the first weekend 00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:08.660 or the weekend that's closest to the 7th. We 00:28:08.660 --> 00:28:11.779 do what's called a Pearl Harbor Memorial. and 00:28:11.779 --> 00:28:14.960 it becomes a special event station. It's really 00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:19.579 a submarine and it's quite literally in Muskogee, 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:25.259 Oklahoma. It is a 300 -foot Gato class submarine 00:28:25.259 --> 00:28:30.299 that they floated up the Arkansas River and put 00:28:30.299 --> 00:28:35.240 literally on land the submarine. And then what 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.960 we've done in the submarine is we've literally 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.369 activated the communications area. and we run 00:28:41.369 --> 00:28:45.450 a special event. And that special event is generally 00:28:45.450 --> 00:28:48.930 run by young people. The reason why we like the 00:28:48.930 --> 00:28:50.650 young people is that, one, it gives them the 00:28:50.650 --> 00:28:54.329 ability to learn so much about the history of 00:28:54.329 --> 00:28:57.910 what happened during Pearl Harbor. The kids operate 00:28:57.910 --> 00:28:59.829 the radio station. Now, these are all kids who 00:28:59.829 --> 00:29:04.170 are technician, general, and extra class licenses. 00:29:04.769 --> 00:29:08.569 And the ages range anything from 10 years old 00:29:08.569 --> 00:29:13.079 to you know, however old, old, old, so old you 00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.019 can barely fit through the hatch, kind of old. 00:29:16.099 --> 00:29:19.460 But what basically happens is they operate out 00:29:19.460 --> 00:29:21.220 of the submarine for the entire weekend, or they 00:29:21.220 --> 00:29:24.940 operate out of the USS Oklahoma mobile area for 00:29:24.940 --> 00:29:28.380 that weekend as well. And it makes as many contexts 00:29:28.380 --> 00:29:32.779 as they can. You saw a couple of videos like 00:29:32.779 --> 00:29:37.539 my son where they ended up talking to the Battleship 00:29:37.539 --> 00:29:40.339 USS Wisconsin. Which, uh, that was kind of a 00:29:40.339 --> 00:29:42.859 boon for them. So the submarine talking to a, 00:29:42.859 --> 00:29:47.980 uh, Oh, it was USS Iowa. I'm sorry. It was the 00:29:47.980 --> 00:29:50.799 Wisconsin. It was an Iowa class battleship. My 00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.700 son just corrected me. It was one of those states. 00:29:55.259 --> 00:29:58.660 What was really cool is the kids learn so much 00:29:58.660 --> 00:30:00.619 about what happened in World War II. They get 00:30:00.619 --> 00:30:03.859 to experience, you know, staying on the sub for 00:30:03.859 --> 00:30:06.819 an extended period of time. And they get a feel 00:30:06.819 --> 00:30:10.539 for what our soldiers and what our forefathers 00:30:10.539 --> 00:30:13.960 went through during, you know, a time of duress. 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:19.319 And it's sobering and it's really cool to see, 00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.380 especially seeing the kids. And you know me, 00:30:22.579 --> 00:30:24.519 Neil, I'm one of those ones that if I can do 00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.559 something to spark the imaginations of the youth, 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:29.299 I'll do it in a heartbeat. Kind of like what 00:30:29.299 --> 00:30:32.200 we did here this week tonight, where we've set 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:37.259 up MCOM -1. And we set it up to, um, to talk 00:30:37.259 --> 00:30:39.720 to Santa and, you know, we like to do a special 00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:43.960 shout out to KB0FX. He was our Santa and we were 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.720 talking both over HF and VHF. Uh, you know, the 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.759 kids were able to call, you know, basically call 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.099 Santa, Santa would talk to the kids and, you 00:30:52.099 --> 00:30:53.839 know, they had their first experience with radio. 00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:57.119 And now, um, you know, they go back to the clubhouse 00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:58.680 and next thing you know, that's all they're talking 00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:00.960 about is talking on the radio and they want to 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.769 talk on the radio. You know to someone else can 00:31:03.769 --> 00:31:06.329 they do that kind of a deal? Which so now I got 00:31:06.329 --> 00:31:08.390 parents looking at me with the stink. I saying, 00:31:08.390 --> 00:31:15.410 okay, how much is gonna cost? You don't have 00:31:15.410 --> 00:31:17.069 to worry about your kids ever being on drugs 00:31:17.069 --> 00:31:18.750 because they can't afford anything after they 00:31:18.750 --> 00:31:21.750 start buying all these radios Exactly. That's 00:31:21.750 --> 00:31:25.029 it So it was it was really good and I really 00:31:25.029 --> 00:31:28.619 do appreciate his help We couldn't have done 00:31:28.619 --> 00:31:31.460 it without him, and it was really nice for him 00:31:31.460 --> 00:31:36.339 to volunteer his time. He put a scheduled event 00:31:36.339 --> 00:31:39.640 off to the side so that we could do this. And 00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.779 Neil, I'm sorry about me being tardy, but I think 00:31:42.779 --> 00:31:45.259 you understand what I'm doing now, so hopefully 00:31:45.259 --> 00:31:48.839 I can get some forgiveness on that one. If I 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.420 can get kids on the radio, if I can get a spark, 00:31:51.779 --> 00:31:54.799 if I can get them to want more. and learn more 00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.799 and understand this wonderful universe that we 00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:02.259 live in, I'll do it in a heartbeat. And just 00:32:02.259 --> 00:32:03.900 like with the bad fish, I don't get paid for 00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:06.880 it. I just love doing it. And for me, too, with 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.440 the bad fish, it's one of those things that I 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:14.119 personally, let's just say it's like, I spend 00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:15.759 a lot of time thinking about it now that I've 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.039 been in it for so much time. And I don't work 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.160 just necessarily on the radio. I work on other 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.450 things, too, inside that boat. to help keep her 00:32:24.450 --> 00:32:26.529 in condition. And what's really neat about the 00:32:26.529 --> 00:32:31.250 club, the radio club that is associated with 00:32:31.250 --> 00:32:39.390 the museum approach to. Using your signal there 00:32:39.390 --> 00:32:44.990 a little bit. They don't just work on just the 00:32:44.990 --> 00:32:48.849 radio stuff. they focus on other things like 00:32:48.849 --> 00:32:51.410 one at one time we had a lot of rain and the 00:32:51.410 --> 00:32:53.869 boat kind of listed a little bit so literally 00:32:53.869 --> 00:32:55.930 the club got together a couple people are farmers 00:32:55.930 --> 00:32:58.450 we got tractors and we helped to rewrite you 00:32:58.450 --> 00:33:01.150 know to kind of move the boat a little bit to 00:33:01.150 --> 00:33:04.269 level it out a little bit um and then we do other 00:33:04.269 --> 00:33:07.089 work on the inside one guy worked on the uh was 00:33:07.089 --> 00:33:09.109 working on the conning tower to keep it you know 00:33:09.109 --> 00:33:10.930 keep it in good condition you know we'll do some 00:33:10.930 --> 00:33:14.230 painting i mean the club has literally take owner 00:33:14.230 --> 00:33:16.670 not taken ownership of it but You know, they, 00:33:16.849 --> 00:33:20.069 they take a personal affection to the, to the, 00:33:20.069 --> 00:33:22.630 to the submarine itself. And to me, that's a 00:33:22.630 --> 00:33:25.490 beautiful example of how clubs can interact with, 00:33:25.490 --> 00:33:27.869 you know, special things like the, like the submarine. 00:33:29.569 --> 00:33:32.950 Sounds, uh, sounds like an interesting, uh, Special 00:33:32.950 --> 00:33:36.170 event and I know a lot of people were Excited 00:33:36.170 --> 00:33:39.150 to work that one too. So well, let's open up 00:33:39.150 --> 00:33:41.670 the phone lines here again That phone number 00:33:41.670 --> 00:33:44.789 is eight one two net ham one eight one two six 00:33:44.789 --> 00:33:48.549 three eight four two six one if you have a question 00:33:48.549 --> 00:33:54.049 for Emmett w0qh from radio waves will have time 00:33:54.049 --> 00:33:56.849 to get that in and then we want to save a little 00:33:56.849 --> 00:34:01.380 bit of time to talk a little bit about the holidays 00:34:01.380 --> 00:34:03.920 and a gift that you've got for our listeners 00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:06.740 so we'll do that here in just a few minutes but 00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:10.599 if you have a question let's go ahead and take 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:16.760 a question or two now 812 -638 -4261 or you can 00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:20.260 tweet us at HamTalk Live or we're on Skype too 00:34:20.260 --> 00:34:22.400 if you want to give us a Skype call you can Skype 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:30.610 us at HamTalk Live. So let's see we got the We 00:34:30.610 --> 00:34:34.829 got the fan die pole covered. ENW1GIW had asked 00:34:34.829 --> 00:34:38.349 about tuning a double bazooka for 80, and I think 00:34:38.349 --> 00:34:41.610 Rochelle pretty well covered that, that it's 00:34:41.610 --> 00:34:45.909 just not the same for 80 and for 75. Right. Right. 00:34:46.550 --> 00:34:49.030 You know, yeah, the double bazooka is fairly 00:34:49.030 --> 00:34:52.289 broadband, but quite often people will want the 00:34:52.289 --> 00:34:54.769 antenna to be peak in the areas that they normally 00:34:54.769 --> 00:34:57.309 operate. So that'd be either on the phone side, 00:34:57.309 --> 00:35:00.460 which we call 75 meters, or on the digital CW 00:35:00.460 --> 00:35:03.639 side, which we call 80 meters. And we could probably 00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.699 set the bazooka up to work in the middle, but 00:35:06.699 --> 00:35:09.539 the efficiency goes down because of the way of 00:35:09.539 --> 00:35:12.900 the design of the antenna as you move out of 00:35:12.900 --> 00:35:17.500 the resonance of the antenna itself. All right, 00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.320 so give us a call eight one two six three eight 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:25.739 four two six one and Mike KB zero FX is on the 00:35:25.739 --> 00:35:29.400 comments here Left comment says glad to help. 00:35:29.420 --> 00:35:33.340 So thanks. Thanks Mike for helping out on that 00:35:33.340 --> 00:35:36.480 he was even feeling under under the weather and 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.440 you know, he even he came along and helped out 00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:41.849 and Yeah, he spent a lot of time on the project 00:35:41.849 --> 00:35:45.170 and I greatly appreciate it and it really says 00:35:45.170 --> 00:35:51.289 a lot about the ham radio. Oh, you know where 00:35:51.289 --> 00:35:52.989 the heart of the ham is, you know, we're looking 00:35:52.989 --> 00:35:55.570 at helping anywhere we can and appreciate Mike 00:35:55.570 --> 00:35:59.949 and what he did. All right, and Dr. Scott Wright 00:35:59.949 --> 00:36:04.849 K0MD has a couple of questions And actually this 00:36:04.849 --> 00:36:08.510 is one that I was getting ready to go to was 00:36:08.510 --> 00:36:13.530 some winterizing of your antennas Scott wants 00:36:13.530 --> 00:36:15.809 to know what we should do when building wire 00:36:15.809 --> 00:36:18.849 antennas to make them last longer with the wind 00:36:18.849 --> 00:36:25.199 and the ice Wind in the ice is just something 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:27.920 if you know you've got a lot of heavy wind And 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.059 you know you're gonna have icing don't go with 00:36:30.059 --> 00:36:32.739 a lightweight wire as in you know a lot of times 00:36:32.739 --> 00:36:35.179 the most intent a lot of manufacturers use like 00:36:35.179 --> 00:36:37.320 a 16 gauge wire or whatever you go with the heavier 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.900 gauge wire You know I wouldn't say anything more 00:36:40.900 --> 00:36:43.320 than 10 gauge would be would be anything more 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.699 that you need especially around 80 meters The 00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:48.760 heavier gauge wire though is a lot obviously 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:53.480 a lot more visible but it's also, you know, it's 00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.760 a lot more sturdy and strong and it can handle 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.559 the rigors of having the ice loading, then follow 00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.980 that with wind and so on, because we do have 00:37:00.980 --> 00:37:03.739 problems every once in a while where, you know, 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:08.199 sometimes the conditions just got so bad that 00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.719 it stretched the antenna and the antenna, you 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.300 know, fell out of resonance. That's number one. 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.159 Number two is when you terminate the antenna, 00:37:17.340 --> 00:37:20.050 as in you connect your connector to the to the 00:37:20.050 --> 00:37:22.849 bottom of the balan or whatever you use to connect 00:37:22.849 --> 00:37:27.670 the antenna to what you do is you will what we 00:37:27.670 --> 00:37:29.650 do is we like to use with a stuff called stuff 00:37:29.650 --> 00:37:32.650 which is a dielectric filler which fills in the 00:37:32.650 --> 00:37:35.829 the void in between the SO239 connector and the 00:37:35.829 --> 00:37:40.090 PL connector and then we also use a small amount 00:37:40.090 --> 00:37:46.510 on the threads of the of the SO connector just 00:37:46.510 --> 00:37:49.949 a little dab of the like a pinotrox which helps 00:37:49.949 --> 00:37:54.449 to it's a sacrificial chemical that you know 00:37:54.449 --> 00:37:57.170 as things moisture or whatever starts to try 00:37:57.170 --> 00:37:59.349 and permeate it helps to lock it out plus it'll 00:37:59.349 --> 00:38:03.389 sacrifice itself instead of corroding and oxidizing 00:38:03.389 --> 00:38:07.570 then of course you'll use either I prefer to 00:38:07.570 --> 00:38:11.010 use that silicone safety tape because it's easy 00:38:11.010 --> 00:38:15.130 to put on it feels really good it does it's pretty 00:38:15.130 --> 00:38:17.699 much permanent But it's easy to take off again. 00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:21.320 Most wire antennas, if you were to install them, 00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.800 always install them with the mindset that you're 00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:25.639 going to be taking it down in six months or you 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.820 need to be able to inspect it every major seasonal 00:38:28.820 --> 00:38:31.019 change just to make sure that the antenna works. 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:35.159 I know historically most hams have all said, 00:38:35.219 --> 00:38:36.960 well, I put it up and it's been up there for 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.699 15 years. Well, that's good. You did a good job. 00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:43.519 But reality is that you'll do a lot better if 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:46.219 you set your system up. to where you can service 00:38:46.219 --> 00:38:48.639 it so that way if something does go wrong you 00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.480 can quickly fix the problem and get yourself 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.840 back on the air again instead of saying oh the 00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.460 antenna snapped and i i gotta wait three months 00:38:56.460 --> 00:38:58.539 before i can get a bucket truck out here to you 00:38:58.539 --> 00:39:02.099 know put this thing back up into the tree all 00:39:02.099 --> 00:39:04.980 right very good and and one more question from 00:39:04.980 --> 00:39:09.000 uh from Scott and then we need to move on here. 00:39:09.420 --> 00:39:12.860 But he wants to know if you're planning on making 00:39:12.860 --> 00:39:18.760 any inverted L's for the low bands. Thank you 00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:20.420 for asking that question. That's a very good 00:39:20.420 --> 00:39:23.719 question. We are making, actually I've got it 00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.079 in design right now, several inverted L's and 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.199 a couple other antennas that will give you that, 00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.619 you know, are literally ultra low frequencies. 00:39:32.699 --> 00:39:34.360 You're not going to need a lot of real estate 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.630 but understand Because these frequencies are 00:39:36.630 --> 00:39:42.050 so low and we're looking at such a, um, Oh, let's 00:39:42.050 --> 00:39:43.670 just say it's going to be, it's going to be an 00:39:43.670 --> 00:39:45.469 interesting endeavor for anyone who gets into 00:39:45.469 --> 00:39:47.530 it. But yes, we are planning on building. As 00:39:47.530 --> 00:39:49.590 a matter of, I do have a couple of designs done. 00:39:49.750 --> 00:39:51.730 It's just a matter of, you know, I'm getting 00:39:51.730 --> 00:39:54.829 the, uh, I'm doing some field testing first before 00:39:54.829 --> 00:39:58.190 I even announced that it's done or it's ready 00:39:58.190 --> 00:40:00.909 to go as a product. But yes, we are making some 00:40:00.909 --> 00:40:04.730 inverted Ls. So, um, and also some Ls and a couple 00:40:04.730 --> 00:40:08.809 other. variations of the same All right, very 00:40:08.809 --> 00:40:11.849 good. So thanks Scott for your questions and 00:40:11.849 --> 00:40:14.710 and thanks also to Ian and Nick for your questions 00:40:14.710 --> 00:40:17.030 tonight and we've got a couple of minutes left 00:40:17.030 --> 00:40:21.269 in the show, but we wanted to get one more thing 00:40:21.269 --> 00:40:25.130 in here before we sign off for the night and 00:40:25.130 --> 00:40:27.989 You know, it's the holiday season Christmas is 00:40:27.989 --> 00:40:32.389 coming up and here in just a few days and you've 00:40:32.389 --> 00:40:37.420 got A gift for our listeners. So can you tell 00:40:37.420 --> 00:40:41.420 us about About the gift for everybody that's 00:40:41.420 --> 00:40:46.300 out there starting at around 8 Starting about 00:40:46.300 --> 00:40:50.159 at 8 around 9 o 'clock tomorrow morning We're 00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:54.900 going to offer all your listeners Basically a 00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:59.019 15 % discount off of all web purchases. 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We'll be ready to do it tomorrow. 00:41:53.659 --> 00:41:57.059 Oh Okay, I gotta ask you a real quick question 00:41:57.059 --> 00:42:01.679 because I know kb0 FX is on the radio right now 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.000 it turns out that we have a last -minute young 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.019 lady who showed up who would like very much to 00:42:07.019 --> 00:42:14.920 talk to oh And she's been naughty and Santa needs 00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:18.460 Santa needs to talk to her for a little bit and 00:42:18.460 --> 00:42:21.780 and back on the radio again on the repeater So 00:42:21.780 --> 00:42:23.840 if you're there, could you go ahead and call? 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:30.829 communication so Okay, but Yeah, Mike, if you're 00:42:30.829 --> 00:42:33.929 there. Hey, Rochelle. Grab Mike. Go ahead, get 00:42:33.929 --> 00:42:36.349 the microphone right there by the keyboard. Yep, 00:42:37.050 --> 00:42:42.570 say KB0FX. KB0FX. This is your in -user call 00:42:42.570 --> 00:42:49.409 sign. This is KB0YWH. Are you there? Are you 00:42:49.409 --> 00:42:56.550 there? Okay, try it again. KB0FX. There we go. 00:42:57.989 --> 00:43:03.010 There he is, all right. Well, Troy Simpson, W9KVR 00:43:03.010 --> 00:43:05.829 says, informative tonight and Merry Christmas 00:43:05.829 --> 00:43:11.329 to you as well. And hello to Scott, 85ORW, first 00:43:11.329 --> 00:43:15.809 time listener tonight. So thanks for coming up 00:43:15.809 --> 00:43:22.210 here with us tonight and joining us for our last 00:43:22.210 --> 00:43:27.500 show before Christmas. So Merry Christmas. Whatever 00:43:27.500 --> 00:43:31.519 other holiday, you know you celebrate We wish 00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.380 you that and we'll wish you a happy new year 00:43:34.380 --> 00:43:39.659 next week when Bernie McClennie w3ur is gonna 00:43:39.659 --> 00:43:43.900 be here and he's gonna talk about the daily DX 00:43:43.900 --> 00:43:47.539 and and how to find out about some of those rare 00:43:47.539 --> 00:43:51.199 DX opportunities so Emmett thanks for coming 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.619 on the show tonight and thank you for the promo 00:43:54.619 --> 00:44:00.280 and and And thanks for saying it. Yeah. Real 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.099 quick, just to let you know, your wife said it's 00:44:04.099 --> 00:44:08.619 okay. Whoever's listening, your wife said it's 00:44:08.619 --> 00:44:12.260 okay. Yes, whoever's listening. Yes. Yep. Yep. 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:17.340 She said it's okay. We can do a gift certificate 00:44:17.340 --> 00:44:19.739 as in, you know, send you little things, you 00:44:19.739 --> 00:44:22.239 know, an email so that you can put it in a card 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.940 so people will know that. So people that will 00:44:25.940 --> 00:44:29.420 know that you're, uh, uh, which, which, what 00:44:29.420 --> 00:44:32.980 we're sending them. All right. Very good. Well, 00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:35.900 that is a wrap for this week. Sam talk live. 00:44:36.139 --> 00:44:39.820 Thanks to Emmett. W0QH and Rochelle and everybody 00:44:39.820 --> 00:44:43.280 out there for writing in tonight. And again, 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.599 next Thursday night, 9 p .m. Eastern time, Bernie 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.599 McLinney, W3UR is here from the Daily DX. And 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.139 visit HamTalkLive .com to see all of our upcoming 00:44:52.139 --> 00:44:55.699 guests. So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, 00:44:55.780 --> 00:44:57.980 saying seven three, seven five, and may the good 00:44:57.980 --> 00:44:59.519 DX be yours.