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.com. Good evening, everyone. It's time once

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again for ham talk live. It's episode number

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120 field a Q &A 2018 recorded live on Thursday,

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June 21st 2018 I'm your host Neil rap WB 9 VPG.

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Thanks for tuning in to this episode of ham talk

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live Tonight we're joined by Bart Jahnke W9JJ

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and David Isker N1RSN and we'll take your calls

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live in just a few minutes. Last week Dr Ralph

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we're joined by Bart Yonkey, W9JJ. He is the

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ARRL contest branch manager. He's served in that

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role since January 2016, but he's no stranger

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to ARRL headquarters. Bart started working at

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ARRL in 1985 as the editor of the ARRL repeater

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directory and from 1989 till 2005 he was the

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volunteer exam coordinator manager at ARRL. He

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spent 10 years working in the customer service

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manufacturing sales and support and information

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technology fields in the Midwest and on the East

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Coast after that and now he's back with the league.

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David Isker, N1RSN, is a newcomer to ARRL, an

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amateur radio. He became the communications manager

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at ARRL in October and was just licensed in April.

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David has an extensive background in media relations

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including 20 years at the University of Hartford

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as the director of media relations and spent

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four years as the editor of the Hartford Business

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Journal. He also spent two years As the Hartford

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bureau chief for Thompson Reuters news service

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so Bart David welcome to the show. Thanks for

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joining us tonight Well, we've been been talking

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here about what to talk about and and again we

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want to get as many questions in as we can because

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You don't always have the luxury of being able

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to ask the source of you know. Hey what's the

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ruling on this what's the clarification on this

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and if you if you do that a lot of times you

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know you gotta do that well in advance so tonight's

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kind of the one of the. One of the last opportunities

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you're going to have to ask those questions So

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we want to make sure that we give plenty of time

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for that But we're going to get a few of the

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must -do things out of the way here first and

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and Bart We're looking at rule changes for everybody

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who's done this for years and and you know did

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all the rules last year Just a few minor tweaks

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again. Just kind of like last year Let's go over

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just what the little tweaks were to the rules,

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but pretty much. It's the same thing It sure

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is Neil and in a nutshell we approached it Annually

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as we do first based on the aero board of directors

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reviewing Field day as an activity and determining

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what new or different activities or modifications

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to the rules are required during this last review

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period. They did not have any. So as we approached

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the new year, we went in, we changed the dates,

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of course, and made some slight tweaks to the

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safety officer checklist just to help people

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who felt that it was a little confusing in some

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areas. Basically, we just wanted to make it clear

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for their use. that we're looking for them to,

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in a nutshell, attempt to meet all of the criteria,

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but we're not expecting them to be able to. We

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just want them to take their best shot at having

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a safe operation and answering the questions

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on the checklist. And anything else? That's it

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for this field day. Of course a number of questions

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have come up about how things can be incorporated,

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especially from the digital mode standpoint.

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And we may address that here separately under

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questions. So I don't know if you wanted me to

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go there quite yet. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll hang

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on to that, but yeah, FT eight, I know it was

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going to be something. And when we'll be sure

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to, to talk about that, um, David, um, you know,

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field day is one of our biggest on air events.

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And, uh, it's not just an on air event. It's

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a public outreach. It's one of the times that

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we get to kind of show people what hams do. So

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what advice do you have for groups that are participating

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to let people know what we're doing and invite

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them out to the field day sites? Well, Neil,

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as we talk, you know, literally 48 hours, I guess,

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from or so from field day. A lot of the work

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should have been done already by groups to reach

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out to members of the media, the traditional

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media, newspapers, radio, TV stations to let

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them know where you are, what you're doing, what

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you have planned. Hopefully folks have been making

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that contact. We've been sending out information

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to the PIOs throughout amateur radio to try to

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make them aware and give them tips and tools

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to do. But a lot of it comes down to now what

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you can continue to do on social media. Um, to

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be sending out, um, and posting information on

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Facebook, on Twitter, um, to make people aware

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in the, in the general community. Um, all of

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the, all of the people that are following you

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or that might be looking in, uh, in your feeds.

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And there are still some reporters that are on

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social media as well. So it's a good, uh, good

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way to, to do a last check with them, but, um,

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we encourage people, there's still time to sign

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up and join. the, uh, the face, the field day

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Facebook group that we've set up. Um, we're,

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we're adding people to that every day. So we,

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we encourage groups to make sure that they're

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signing up to that so that they can, uh, share

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what they're doing and see what everybody else

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is doing. It's a great, uh, a great community

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gathering point for, uh, for people to be aware

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of. And we want to make sure to mention the hashtag

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because it always seems like there's. you know,

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a dozen different hashtags going around. So make

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sure you, you mentioned the hashtag. Yeah, we

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we've set up an official hashtag, which is hashtag

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ARRLFD. So if you put that on, if folks put that

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on their posts, number one, we'll be able to,

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to collect that. And then we can share that out

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over the, the broader ARRL Facebook feeds. And

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that way, they can see what other people are

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doing. We're going to be trying to share as much

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as they can. So it creates more of a community.

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But yes, use that hashtag, because we want to

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share as much as we can over our network. And

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when you put that hashtag on, it allows us to

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grab that information and put it out on our feeds

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as well. So hashtag ARRLFD. Okay, very good.

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Now, you know, this happens a lot and this is

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something that Bart mentioned. You know, sometimes

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media outlets don't pay any attention to what

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you send them and then you don't get anybody

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to cover the activity. David, should they just

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give up and not bother next year? What's the

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strategy on that? Oh, absolutely not. And in

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fact, actually, I would suggest that even for

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a TV station or the newspaper, you could still

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call them tomorrow and ask them if they're sending

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anybody. But in future years, if they don't come

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this year, it may not be anything that you did.

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It may be that there was just so many other events

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going on or other conflicts that they had that

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they could not get there. So don't give up. Try

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it again next year and also take a look at what

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you sent them. Maybe there's a way to punch it

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up to, um, for TV stations, especially give them

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more of a sense of what the visuals are going

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to be. Talk about the rigs that you're setting

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up, what kind of antennas, where your group is,

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everything that you're doing. Um, and, and keep

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in mind. Again, like I said, TV requires good

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visuals. So try to make sure that you offer them

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the visuals and maybe you'll have better luck

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next year. But I think the thing is to keep trying.

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And I would also say it's important to, we obviously

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use field day as a way to really get attention.

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But there are things that you can do throughout

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the year to develop relationships with reporters,

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Um, and assignment editors at, um, at newspapers

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and TV stations throughout the year. So that

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when they, you send them your field day stuff

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and you follow up with a phone call to them,

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they're much more receptive to it because they

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know who you are. They are, they already have

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a relationship with you. So I would, um, I would

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recommend doing that as well. And I like what

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you said about, you know, don't give up because

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you know, they may have had so many other things

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to. to cover that day that, you know, it's not

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there. If you haven't worked in broadcast media

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and journalism, you may not know that there are

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these things called slow news days. And so I

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was in Cincinnati a few days ago and was watching

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the TV station and one of the top stories was

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that This diner chain called frishes is switching

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from Pepsi back to Coke again Now now for people

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in Cincinnati that may be a big deal, but still

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I didn't think that was quite the top headline

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that's what you call a slow News day and you're

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more likely to get on on those slower news days

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when sometimes, you know Everything's happening

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at once and and so it may just be it just wasn't

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the year for you That's absolutely true. I mean,

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you know what we find with especially with TV

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stations They tend they tend to be a little have

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a fewer personnel on working on on the weekends

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and So that you know, there's only a limited

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number of things that they can cover So if something

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big happens if a tractor trailer truck rolls

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over on on the interstate or there's a major

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fire you know, no matter how good your event

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is going to be, it's going to be nearly impossible

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to get them because all the TV crews are going

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to the fire or going to the, you know, to see

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the highway shut down or whatever it is. So again,

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it may not be you. It may just be that there

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was so much going on that day that they couldn't

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get there. So, you know, it doesn't hurt to do

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some, you know, like I said, self -reflection,

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take a look at the materials you sent and see

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if there's ways that you can spice them up for

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next year. But also after field day, you can

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start contacting those people again and maybe

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during the summer you have other activities going

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on. You can start developing relationships with

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them so that when field day comes around in 2019,

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they know you and they'll take your call and

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they'll know that you're going to provide them

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something worthwhile. So, um, so, you know, relationship

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building goes on year round and that, you know,

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you can certainly start that the day after field

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day is over. All right. All good information

00:18:03.769 --> 00:18:07.190
there. And, uh, David or Barty, either one of

00:18:07.190 --> 00:18:09.869
you, uh, let's talk about the, uh, field day

00:18:09.869 --> 00:18:12.970
locator here for a minute. That's a, an important

00:18:12.970 --> 00:18:20.259
tool to find a field day location near you. I

00:18:20.259 --> 00:18:22.859
guess I'll grab that one quick. Field Day Locator.

00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.259
So we have this great Google Maps tool called

00:18:26.259 --> 00:18:28.039
the Field Day Locator. And you can find that

00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:34.160
off the ARL's website under the Field Day link.

00:18:34.819 --> 00:18:36.539
And when you scroll down on your page, you'll

00:18:36.539 --> 00:18:38.440
see Field Day Locator. Click on it, and you'll

00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.519
come up with a great interactive Google Map tool,

00:18:41.980 --> 00:18:45.500
which will then allow you to, if you're the media

00:18:45.500 --> 00:18:48.240
and you're looking to find out where there are

00:18:48.299 --> 00:18:51.500
field day locations in your area. You can type

00:18:51.500 --> 00:18:53.920
in a city and state or if you know a little more

00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.839
about the group, you can also even type in a

00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.079
call sign and find out information about that

00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.819
particular group. You'll see red pins on the

00:19:03.819 --> 00:19:06.779
map and choose one that's in your area or choose

00:19:06.779 --> 00:19:09.359
several. When you click on it, it will blow up

00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.779
and expand with contact information about the

00:19:12.779 --> 00:19:15.859
group that's putting on a field day near you.

00:19:16.029 --> 00:19:20.670
with the name of their group, the contact person's

00:19:20.670 --> 00:19:23.470
name and telephone number, address information,

00:19:23.750 --> 00:19:26.490
etc. to help you find one of those locations

00:19:26.490 --> 00:19:31.029
or multiple ones. And again, we certainly can't

00:19:31.029 --> 00:19:33.650
put in enough plugs here to entice the media.

00:19:34.309 --> 00:19:37.289
Here's your chance to visit multiple sites that

00:19:37.289 --> 00:19:40.589
might be in your coverage area. Okay, very good.

00:19:40.890 --> 00:19:44.329
And one last thing here before we go and take

00:19:44.329 --> 00:19:47.210
a break and look for some calls and some tweets

00:19:47.210 --> 00:19:50.410
from all of our listeners. Theme for this year,

00:19:50.589 --> 00:19:55.029
you want to say something about that? So as people

00:19:55.029 --> 00:19:57.769
have seen, certainly from the ham radio community,

00:19:58.970 --> 00:20:02.069
each year we have our Field Day logo. A couple

00:20:02.069 --> 00:20:06.920
of years ago the logo was associated with the

00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:09.160
National Parks on the Air activity, the brown

00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:11.759
logo with the boot symbol, which is typically

00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:15.359
a hiking symbol. This year, because we have an

00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.180
association with our International Grid Chase

00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:22.000
for 2018, we have the Grid Chase logo showing

00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:26.240
a checkered, if you will, moving pattern of grids

00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.579
with a focus of field day. We can talk more about

00:20:30.579 --> 00:20:33.490
the Grid Chase later, but In conjunction with

00:20:33.490 --> 00:20:36.049
this year's field day, we're also promoting the

00:20:36.049 --> 00:20:38.950
year -long activity of making contacts with as

00:20:38.950 --> 00:20:42.410
many different one -degree latitude by two -degree

00:20:42.410 --> 00:20:46.619
longitude grid squares worldwide. All right,

00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.000
very good. Well, we're going to take a break,

00:20:49.059 --> 00:20:52.200
but we're going to come back and take your calls

00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.019
and your tweets and Skype calls right after this

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00:22:16.109 --> 00:22:36.759
This is HamTalk Live with Neil Rapp. HamTalk

00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:38.779
Live is on the air every Thursday night at 9

00:22:38.779 --> 00:22:40.960
p .m. Eastern Time right here at HamTalkLive

00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.500
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00:22:43.660 --> 00:22:46.799
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00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:49.339
calls now, so if you have a question for Bart

00:22:49.339 --> 00:22:53.380
and or David, give us a call. Phone number 812

00:22:53.380 --> 00:22:59.839
-NET -HAM -1. That's 812 -638. four two six one

00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:04.039
or you can Skype us or tweet us we're at ham

00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:10.579
talk live on Twitter as well as on Skype now

00:23:10.579 --> 00:23:13.059
we've come up with some more stuff and one of

00:23:13.059 --> 00:23:16.160
the things that Bart just mentioned are some

00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:18.859
of those public service announcements that the

00:23:18.859 --> 00:23:21.640
ARRL has and David you've got a couple of new

00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:29.029
ones we did we created new both audio and video

00:23:29.029 --> 00:23:32.930
PSAs, which are actually on the, you can get

00:23:32.930 --> 00:23:37.730
to them right on the Field Day website, arrl

00:23:37.730 --> 00:23:43.730
.org slash field dash day. If you scroll to the

00:23:43.730 --> 00:23:45.750
bottom of that page, you'll see the bullet point

00:23:45.750 --> 00:23:50.579
for PSAs and you can see both the. 30 second

00:23:50.579 --> 00:23:53.880
and 60 second audio and video PSA's that people

00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:58.500
can download and provide to their organizations

00:23:58.500 --> 00:24:01.960
or to media outlets that might be using them.

00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:06.339
We also, we were incredibly fortunate in the

00:24:06.339 --> 00:24:09.519
past year, and this isn't specifically Field

00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:12.920
Day related, but we had Joe Walsh, the guitarist

00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:17.339
from the Eagles, did some PSA's for us. He came

00:24:17.339 --> 00:24:24.920
to visit W1AW at ARRL headquarters and he's a

00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.640
tremendous, you know, he's not only a great guitarist,

00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:29.980
but he's a great ham radio operator as well and

00:24:29.980 --> 00:24:34.319
has a tremendous collection of vintage radio

00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:39.619
gear. And he's also was very Um, very kind to,

00:24:39.619 --> 00:24:43.539
uh, to ARRL and to W one AW. So he, he gave up

00:24:43.539 --> 00:24:46.539
his time to do some PSAs for us. And those are

00:24:46.539 --> 00:24:50.319
up on, uh, on the ARRL website as well. If we

00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:54.240
wanted to, wanted to listen to those. All right.

00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:57.019
Very good. So be sure to check those out. And,

00:24:57.460 --> 00:24:59.680
uh, we do have a couple of, uh, questions coming

00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:01.779
in. We've got a whole list of things we can talk

00:25:01.779 --> 00:25:05.640
about, but, uh, let's get to, uh, everybody's

00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:11.059
questions here first. This one comes in from

00:25:11.059 --> 00:25:16.980
KC5FM. What's the deal with FEMA Region 10 having

00:25:16.980 --> 00:25:21.759
an exercise on 60 meters during field day? Bart?

00:25:23.500 --> 00:25:26.740
Well, funny you should ask. That was mentioned

00:25:26.740 --> 00:25:30.759
to me in passing. It's an activity that we're

00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:34.079
discussing right now for potentially for next

00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:38.799
year. We haven't worked out the details of how

00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:45.460
it might be conducted. Again, the 60 meter allocation

00:25:45.460 --> 00:25:50.099
is just five channels. So it's not a field day

00:25:50.099 --> 00:25:54.799
designated frequency range, but if some sort

00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:59.690
of arrangement in conjunction with FEMA and a

00:25:59.690 --> 00:26:03.509
couple of other agencies might be able to be

00:26:03.509 --> 00:26:06.410
established. Who knows? We might be able to introduce

00:26:06.410 --> 00:26:11.210
some sort of an event tying amateur radio operators

00:26:11.210 --> 00:26:16.250
to, oh I guess for no better example, but to

00:26:16.250 --> 00:26:20.230
have some means of collecting information from

00:26:20.230 --> 00:26:23.329
these FEMA groups. I don't know if they're going

00:26:23.329 --> 00:26:27.190
to do bulletins that we would copy or they might

00:26:27.190 --> 00:26:31.079
do transmissions. It's just, it's in its infancy

00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:34.240
right now. Anything I offer at this point would

00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.220
be conjecture because it's got a long way to

00:26:36.220 --> 00:26:39.900
go. And I don't necessarily know what our role

00:26:39.900 --> 00:26:42.740
might be, but that was one of the, it's come

00:26:42.740 --> 00:26:45.839
up for conversation at the moment. Okay, very

00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.000
good. And I hadn't heard about that one. So Lloyd's

00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:51.740
out there keeping track of all that stuff. 812

00:26:51.740 --> 00:26:56.299
-638 -4261 is the phone number or give us a tweet.

00:26:58.900 --> 00:27:03.240
and let us hear from you. We do have one other

00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.599
one that I shared with you guys earlier from

00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.279
Ed, DD5LP, since it's two o 'clock in the morning.

00:27:10.500 --> 00:27:12.599
He didn't want to get up at two o 'clock in the

00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.380
morning to listen to the show. So he said his

00:27:15.380 --> 00:27:18.299
question ahead of time and said, given that so

00:27:18.299 --> 00:27:21.779
many smaller hamfests are having difficulty attracting

00:27:21.779 --> 00:27:26.240
attendees, Where field day continues to attract

00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:31.180
both young and old hams and non hams? What do

00:27:31.180 --> 00:27:34.160
the experts think about maybe combining these

00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.880
two club organized activities into one and have

00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.420
a local ham fest at the contest site? Either

00:27:40.420 --> 00:27:43.720
you know coinciding with field day or maybe another

00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:47.000
contest Some ham fest in Australia are still

00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.480
referred to as field day. So maybe they're trying

00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:54.559
to tell us something Well, it certainly is a

00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:59.039
suggestion and I think, you know, with the continuing

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:04.400
challenge that our hobby and community has in

00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.140
generating enough free time for what we want

00:28:08.140 --> 00:28:11.059
to do with all the other demands on people's

00:28:11.059 --> 00:28:15.920
lives from work to family to other society activities

00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.900
that they're engaged in, sometimes the question

00:28:19.900 --> 00:28:23.569
that comes up is Do we hold any event? I'm not

00:28:23.569 --> 00:28:27.589
talking about ARL, I'm talking about these amateur

00:28:27.589 --> 00:28:30.210
groups in general who have their field day, if

00:28:30.210 --> 00:28:33.509
you will, flea markets, or they've had some other

00:28:33.509 --> 00:28:36.150
social events and the turnout is limited and

00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:38.630
they're saying why should we bother? You know,

00:28:38.630 --> 00:28:41.430
it really does beg the question, what if we were

00:28:41.430 --> 00:28:45.430
to start combining activities? And I will sort

00:28:45.430 --> 00:28:47.829
of make that as the foreign focus right now.

00:28:48.049 --> 00:28:52.850
If they're having a problem or a challenge, attracting

00:28:52.850 --> 00:28:56.029
uh... people uh... you know getting getting people

00:28:56.029 --> 00:28:58.569
interested bringing them out uh... you know certainly

00:28:58.569 --> 00:29:02.289
if we use the a r l field example it's the largest

00:29:02.289 --> 00:29:05.690
activity we have annually and since we track

00:29:05.690 --> 00:29:08.509
participants as a part of our reporting we're

00:29:08.509 --> 00:29:10.890
talking about thirty five thirty six thousand

00:29:10.890 --> 00:29:14.269
participants you know by far just blows the numbers

00:29:14.269 --> 00:29:17.509
off of anything else that goes on in united states

00:29:17.509 --> 00:29:19.890
and and probably foreign amateur radio as well

00:29:20.029 --> 00:29:23.829
So again, if these foreign communities, amateur

00:29:23.829 --> 00:29:27.750
radio groups, organizations are having a problem

00:29:27.750 --> 00:29:33.430
attracting people to join them, and if they've

00:29:33.430 --> 00:29:35.789
got two or three individual activities that have

00:29:35.789 --> 00:29:39.029
low turnouts and you can get maybe a larger turnout

00:29:39.029 --> 00:29:42.009
out of a single one, what's the harm? Nothing

00:29:42.009 --> 00:29:44.710
ventured, nothing gained. Try it, see what happens.

00:29:45.269 --> 00:29:47.529
I'll offer one twist, and I know that this is

00:29:47.529 --> 00:29:49.730
happening maybe even more so this year than others.

00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:52.420
There are clubs across the country where they

00:29:52.420 --> 00:29:54.519
found getting enough attendance at field day

00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.640
was challenging. So some of them have decided

00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:01.099
to reach out to neighboring clubs who might have

00:30:01.099 --> 00:30:03.259
done an individual activity in the past and said,

00:30:03.380 --> 00:30:05.619
hey, how about we do a group activity? And I

00:30:05.619 --> 00:30:07.059
think you're going to find that on the air during

00:30:07.059 --> 00:30:09.579
this field day where there is now maybe even

00:30:09.579 --> 00:30:11.339
more so. And if you look at the QST results,

00:30:11.539 --> 00:30:14.019
you'll see this. You'll see the names of clubs

00:30:14.019 --> 00:30:16.819
concatenated together because they've grouped

00:30:16.819 --> 00:30:21.079
as two or three or four, even five. or more organizations

00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.460
deciding to do a group field day rather than

00:30:23.460 --> 00:30:29.500
individually. We had that here. Yeah. Yeah, Neil,

00:30:29.619 --> 00:30:32.180
I want to, you know, sort of follow up on what

00:30:32.180 --> 00:30:34.660
Bart said. I think, I think there are some things

00:30:34.660 --> 00:30:39.380
that maybe Hamfest and others can look at, at

00:30:39.380 --> 00:30:43.460
what field day does. I think part of it is because

00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:47.240
Field day, you know, we keep talking about this

00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:50.059
and and it's in our you know our promo messages

00:30:50.059 --> 00:30:53.660
and things But it really is ham radio's open

00:30:53.660 --> 00:30:57.880
house, you know, we pay particular attention

00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:02.920
to inviting public and we have You know the the

00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:07.720
go to get on the air stations Set up a lot of

00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:09.660
you know, a lot of clubs are setting those up

00:31:09.660 --> 00:31:13.500
as part of as part of field day. So I think You

00:31:13.500 --> 00:31:16.180
know, just a reminder that, you know, to be as,

00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:19.720
as open and as welcoming to the general public,

00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.319
um, as you can and let them know that that's

00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.119
an open house. I think that's part of the reason

00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.519
for field days success is cause we really put

00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.380
a lot of effort into inviting the public to come.

00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.039
And that, that may be something that folks doing,

00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:39.140
you know, smaller ham fest might look at to make

00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:41.269
sure that they're. that they're really reaching

00:31:41.269 --> 00:31:44.210
out to the general public and not just to their,

00:31:44.509 --> 00:31:49.329
um, not just to amateur radio operators. And,

00:31:49.410 --> 00:31:53.289
and I told you guys before the contest or says

00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:57.390
in me says, no, you gotta run that score up,

00:31:57.390 --> 00:32:00.910
you know, you gotta win. And, and, you know,

00:32:00.970 --> 00:32:03.589
for some people, this is the only chance to do

00:32:03.589 --> 00:32:08.119
a, you know, a multi multi -contest and and so

00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:10.400
you know you've got that too but the thing is

00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:15.039
there's there's room for all of this and what

00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.559
works in one place may not work in another and

00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.200
Neil yeah keeping in mind that field day is not

00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:27.079
a contest but secondarily it's you have to each

00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.880
group has to ask their self both from the perspective

00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.460
of what are we going to do socially amateur radio

00:32:33.460 --> 00:32:36.400
wise and what are we going to do community -wise,

00:32:37.299 --> 00:32:39.400
is when you're doing your planning, you have

00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.940
to ask yourself, and this is maybe the first

00:32:41.940 --> 00:32:44.200
question to ask, is it going to be about the

00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.740
journey, or is it going to be about the end result

00:32:46.740 --> 00:32:49.859
destination, and how do we define those two pieces

00:32:49.859 --> 00:32:53.519
for what we're going to do? Yeah, yeah. And,

00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.759
you know, I've gotten into those discussions

00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.279
before of, you know, is it a contest, is it not

00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.380
a contest? Yeah, okay, I know it's not a contest,

00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:03.519
but there's still a score, you know? And so,

00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:07.210
you know, Other people use this as a social event

00:33:07.210 --> 00:33:09.730
and, and that's, you know, and like I said, I

00:33:09.730 --> 00:33:12.890
think it really comes down to what, like you

00:33:12.890 --> 00:33:15.130
said, what do you want to get out of this? What

00:33:15.130 --> 00:33:19.950
is your, what is your goal? And, and so there's,

00:33:19.950 --> 00:33:25.509
there's all kinds of opportunities here. And

00:33:25.509 --> 00:33:29.509
I think actually, I will say, uh, we got time,

00:33:29.670 --> 00:33:33.579
but I think we're in a. You know, amateur radio

00:33:33.579 --> 00:33:37.420
is actually in a great spot right now at the

00:33:37.420 --> 00:33:41.980
current time to increase our awareness and to

00:33:41.980 --> 00:33:45.660
bring more people from the general public into

00:33:45.660 --> 00:33:51.200
amateur radio with everything that we went through

00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.819
last year with all of the natural disasters that

00:33:53.819 --> 00:33:58.170
occurred. and they were terrible things. I mean,

00:33:58.190 --> 00:34:03.089
I don't mean to minimize how terrible things

00:34:03.089 --> 00:34:07.049
were in Puerto Rico and Houston and the wildfires

00:34:07.049 --> 00:34:10.070
in California and all the things going on, but

00:34:10.070 --> 00:34:13.769
it did raise awareness of the role that amateur

00:34:13.769 --> 00:34:18.809
radio plays in that. And so I think it did pique

00:34:18.809 --> 00:34:23.050
a lot of people's interest in amateur radio and

00:34:23.050 --> 00:34:26.000
so that we're finding that now when you talk

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.400
to people about amateur radio, they have more

00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.900
awareness and understanding than, than we've

00:34:32.900 --> 00:34:36.000
seen in the general public in some time. Yeah.

00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.360
And that's, that's always a good thing. Okay.

00:34:39.460 --> 00:34:42.440
We've got a couple of more tweets here. Uh, Laura

00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:46.860
Goudreau tweeted back, uh, with Lloyd and us.

00:34:47.289 --> 00:34:51.730
and said that we are opening the 60 meter interoperability

00:34:51.730 --> 00:34:54.250
net at the direct request of several amateur

00:34:54.250 --> 00:34:57.469
operators so they can practice on the weekend

00:34:57.469 --> 00:34:59.530
but they are running the net a little earlier

00:34:59.530 --> 00:35:04.349
in the day so that there's only a two hour overlap

00:35:04.349 --> 00:35:07.429
and that again that was at their direct request

00:35:07.429 --> 00:35:11.489
of several hams so it looks like they are trying

00:35:11.489 --> 00:35:16.110
to have that opportunity there for people who

00:35:16.110 --> 00:35:19.510
can do that and keep the overlap down to a minimum.

00:35:20.050 --> 00:35:24.710
So just a little follow up there on that. 812

00:35:24.710 --> 00:35:28.809
-638 -4261 is the telephone number or tweet us

00:35:28.809 --> 00:35:33.650
at HamTalk Live. We've been enjoying some questions

00:35:33.650 --> 00:35:37.230
here and some comments tonight on Twitter, so

00:35:37.230 --> 00:35:41.210
keep them coming here. Bart, one of the things

00:35:41.210 --> 00:35:45.730
that seems to always come up is what class should

00:35:45.730 --> 00:35:50.269
we be? A lot of the club stations, they're used

00:35:50.269 --> 00:35:53.889
to that, but especially home stations. So can

00:35:53.889 --> 00:35:57.650
you run down some of those harder to figure out

00:35:57.650 --> 00:36:01.809
and maybe not as used classes so that people

00:36:01.809 --> 00:36:04.369
know how they should classify their stations

00:36:04.369 --> 00:36:10.510
and setups? Absolutely. So we want to keep the

00:36:10.510 --> 00:36:13.449
explanation simplistic to begin with. And the

00:36:13.449 --> 00:36:15.590
way to do that is to write down on a piece of

00:36:15.590 --> 00:36:20.809
paper the letters A, B, C, D, E, F. So when you're

00:36:20.809 --> 00:36:23.570
figuring what your field day exchange, your designation

00:36:23.570 --> 00:36:26.710
is going to be, you start with those letters

00:36:26.710 --> 00:36:28.809
and then you figure out how many transmitters

00:36:28.809 --> 00:36:32.010
you're going to have used simultaneously. If

00:36:32.010 --> 00:36:34.409
you're a home station, generally it's just one

00:36:34.409 --> 00:36:37.329
transmitter. And finally, it's your ARRL section.

00:36:37.630 --> 00:36:41.550
So if I'm a home station and I'm in Connecticut

00:36:41.550 --> 00:36:43.989
and I'm going to use one transmitter, I know

00:36:43.989 --> 00:36:47.889
that my category is D for a home station on commercial

00:36:47.889 --> 00:36:51.389
power and I know that if my home station is going

00:36:51.389 --> 00:36:56.289
to use a battery or solar powered or a generator

00:36:56.289 --> 00:36:59.469
or hydrogen powered or wind powered, it's going

00:36:59.469 --> 00:37:01.329
to be under emergency power and the category

00:37:01.329 --> 00:37:04.010
for that is E. So we've just taken care of home

00:37:04.010 --> 00:37:08.780
stations either D commercial or E, emergency

00:37:08.780 --> 00:37:13.460
power. Working our way backward, you've got C,

00:37:13.820 --> 00:37:16.679
and C is exclusively for stations that move,

00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.539
so it's a mobile station. Generally just one

00:37:19.539 --> 00:37:22.920
transmitter, so one C, and then you report the

00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:24.619
section that you're currently in while you're

00:37:24.619 --> 00:37:28.480
traveling. Working our way backwards, we've got

00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:32.639
B stations, and A and B are interchangeable only

00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.139
in the number of participants. So a B station

00:37:36.139 --> 00:37:39.900
is a portable station, is not at home. It has

00:37:39.900 --> 00:37:43.519
no access to the conveniences of a home station.

00:37:43.900 --> 00:37:47.260
It doesn't have access to the antennas, the radio

00:37:47.260 --> 00:37:49.320
equipment that's in the home station hooked up

00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.260
or ready to go. It doesn't have access to the

00:37:52.260 --> 00:37:55.539
facilities of a home, such as the kitchen, the

00:37:55.539 --> 00:37:58.860
sleeping arrangements, the bathroom. A and B

00:37:58.860 --> 00:38:02.139
are portable stations and they... idea is the

00:38:02.139 --> 00:38:04.460
uh... these is this is not a convenient way to

00:38:04.460 --> 00:38:06.760
set up in your backyard this is about getting

00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.719
out into the wilderness uh... operating from

00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:12.159
the park operating from a fire station operating

00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:16.039
from a municipal center uh... operating from

00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.519
a mountain top operating from the farmers field

00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:23.900
these are all portable uh... locations that are

00:38:23.900 --> 00:38:27.719
unassociated with any formal uh... otherwise

00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.920
radio station location Carrying that on, the

00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.380
difference between a B station and an A station

00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:36.920
is a B station is limited to two participants.

00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:41.420
So an operator and a helper is two participants.

00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.679
Two operators is two participants. Two operators

00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:48.139
and a helper moves it to class A. Class A is

00:38:48.139 --> 00:38:51.320
three or more participants. The typical club

00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.940
or larger field day group is going to be an A

00:38:54.940 --> 00:38:57.650
station. So then once they know that they are

00:38:57.650 --> 00:39:00.409
either in A or B as a portable operation, they

00:39:00.409 --> 00:39:01.929
figure out how many transmitters they're going

00:39:01.929 --> 00:39:05.610
to have in simultaneous use. That'll be the number

00:39:05.610 --> 00:39:08.489
preceding the alphabetical character. And finally,

00:39:09.269 --> 00:39:12.829
their ARRL section is the last part of the exchange.

00:39:13.389 --> 00:39:17.190
So for example, if they're operating portable

00:39:17.190 --> 00:39:21.449
with 10 people and they're in Western Massachusetts,

00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.599
and they're going to have three transmitters

00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:27.039
on the year their exchange will be three a massachusetts

00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.099
or three a uh... i'm sorry western massachusetts

00:39:30.099 --> 00:39:34.059
with three eight w m a arm but what did we forget

00:39:34.059 --> 00:39:38.400
uh... class f class f is eo c stations these

00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.679
are stations that formal uh... arrangements with

00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.800
an eo c they may be operating from an eo c they

00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:48.019
may have a mobile unit that is provided by the

00:39:48.019 --> 00:39:52.010
eo c and as a formal uh... arrangement to use

00:39:52.010 --> 00:39:55.090
the mobile station in some capacity you know

00:39:55.090 --> 00:39:57.369
if they if they have this great relationship

00:39:57.369 --> 00:39:59.869
with their own eo c and they say hey we have

00:39:59.869 --> 00:40:02.409
an exercise coming up we'd like to be able to

00:40:02.409 --> 00:40:04.909
use your mobile unit may we have your permission

00:40:04.909 --> 00:40:07.570
to use that in conjunction with the eo c they

00:40:07.570 --> 00:40:10.190
get that in writing and they document it and

00:40:10.190 --> 00:40:13.210
they are then an eo c station and the famous

00:40:13.210 --> 00:40:15.630
true the number of transmitters in their section

00:40:15.630 --> 00:40:20.119
complete their exchange Okay, so there you have

00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:24.280
the rundown and the clarifications of all those

00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.159
classes, so you know what to do. But again, most

00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.179
home stations, if you're just plugging in to

00:40:31.179 --> 00:40:34.960
the wall, one delta, one D, and then go from

00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.900
there. To supplement that, Neil, one additional

00:40:37.900 --> 00:40:41.000
piece. Some people say, well, what if we're a

00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:47.489
3AB or we are some sort of a concatenated uh...

00:40:47.489 --> 00:40:49.989
uh... state -of -the -class and what they're

00:40:49.989 --> 00:40:52.769
confusing is the QST listings with the actual

00:40:52.769 --> 00:40:55.670
on -the -air transmission. The on -the -air transmission

00:40:55.670 --> 00:40:58.829
is the single alphabetical character. How we

00:40:58.829 --> 00:41:02.730
show stations in QST after the event uh... is

00:41:02.730 --> 00:41:05.829
further defined there uh... how they operated.

00:41:06.190 --> 00:41:09.889
If they were a a commercially powered portable

00:41:09.889 --> 00:41:14.070
station they might see something like 3AC or

00:41:14.250 --> 00:41:18.869
2BC, for example, a portable station on commercial

00:41:18.869 --> 00:41:22.710
power, they might see 2B1B, which happens to

00:41:22.710 --> 00:41:29.250
be 2B2B, for example, would be two transmitters,

00:41:29.590 --> 00:41:32.889
portable operation, two participants on battery.

00:41:33.369 --> 00:41:37.409
So these extended class designations are only

00:41:37.409 --> 00:41:40.789
in the published results. They're not what you

00:41:40.789 --> 00:41:46.489
use for your over -the -air exchange. Very good

00:41:46.489 --> 00:41:53.230
Bart, thank you for clarifying on that. 8126384261

00:41:53.230 --> 00:41:56.170
is the phone number or tweet us at amtalklive.

00:41:57.150 --> 00:42:00.010
We're starting to run out of time here. We may

00:42:00.010 --> 00:42:03.699
go a little bit over tonight, but. We'll get

00:42:03.699 --> 00:42:06.360
some other things in here as we can. But if you

00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:09.000
have a question, please give us a call. Give

00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.360
us a tweet here real soon, because we're just

00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:16.880
about to end the program here this evening. But

00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.260
again, we'll keep going here. In fact, we may

00:42:21.260 --> 00:42:24.719
do the short version here, the Reader's Digest

00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.639
version of these. Do you need to register before

00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:33.619
you operate, Bart? Negative. You just in this

00:42:33.619 --> 00:42:35.780
especially important for home stations. You just

00:42:35.780 --> 00:42:37.860
get on the air You operate you understand what

00:42:37.860 --> 00:42:41.360
your exchange is and you go ahead and make contacts

00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:44.519
Groups that would like to invite the public can

00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:49.420
use the field day locator to Attract the public's

00:42:49.420 --> 00:42:52.119
attention. And by the way, we have fifteen hundred

00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.599
and four field day sites currently registered

00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:59.429
Wow Wow, that's a lot. And let's talk about modes.

00:42:59.610 --> 00:43:02.550
I did say we were going to talk about FT8 later.

00:43:03.010 --> 00:43:06.630
So let's get that in. Any restriction on modes?

00:43:07.070 --> 00:43:11.269
And let's focus on FT8 because there is a little

00:43:11.269 --> 00:43:15.449
different way you need to do that. Sure. So to

00:43:15.449 --> 00:43:19.469
begin, all amateur radio modes are permitted

00:43:19.469 --> 00:43:22.050
in field day. That doesn't mean they'll be easy

00:43:22.050 --> 00:43:24.050
to use, but it means that they're permitted.

00:43:24.380 --> 00:43:26.739
Now if you carry that forward, and obviously

00:43:26.739 --> 00:43:30.619
the digital realm is now where we have the, you

00:43:30.619 --> 00:43:32.860
know, it's the latest, it's the new, it's exciting.

00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:35.559
We've got newcomers whose motivations are more

00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.820
digital than analog. So, you know, step forward

00:43:38.820 --> 00:43:45.119
to FTA for the moment. We didn't put any significant

00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.760
promotion into FTA. In fact, we were more reactive

00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:50.219
than proactive. And the reason is is because

00:43:50.219 --> 00:43:53.480
FTA right now is not designed to be able to support

00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:58.639
multiple different exchanges in normal operation.

00:43:58.699 --> 00:44:01.639
In other words, signal reports and some other

00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:05.059
component. It's basically set up under the premise

00:44:05.059 --> 00:44:09.119
of grid squares. So an RST in a grid square is

00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.659
the typical reports that you will see on FTA,

00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:18.099
most often at HFFTA. Certainly the VHF contestors

00:44:18.099 --> 00:44:21.159
will tell you that FTA has a place in what they

00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.159
do. There is a specific mode called North America

00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:27.539
contest mode. It's unique in that it only exchanges

00:44:27.539 --> 00:44:30.260
grid squares. That's not typically what you're

00:44:30.260 --> 00:44:33.059
going to find during this field day, but just

00:44:33.059 --> 00:44:35.159
be aware that if you start seeing information

00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.599
that looks a little weird, like a grid square

00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.099
that's on the opposite side of the earth during

00:44:40.099 --> 00:44:43.829
the exchange, It probably means that one of you

00:44:43.829 --> 00:44:45.710
is on the standard FTA, and the other one's got

00:44:45.710 --> 00:44:48.449
the North America contest mode enabled, and either

00:44:48.449 --> 00:44:51.889
one of you needs to toggle that off to be able

00:44:51.889 --> 00:44:54.690
to do that part of the handshake. But keep in

00:44:54.690 --> 00:44:56.849
mind that the field day exchange that's required

00:44:56.849 --> 00:44:59.570
is the transmitter count, the class, and the

00:44:59.570 --> 00:45:01.690
section. Now, how do you do that in the current

00:45:01.690 --> 00:45:05.650
FTA, which defaults to grid squares? Joe Taylor

00:45:05.650 --> 00:45:08.610
and his group point out in one of their FAQs

00:45:08.610 --> 00:45:13.280
for FTA, that TX5 sequence, so you got TX1, 2,

00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.280
3, 4, and 5. In the TX5 sequence normally used

00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:19.460
for 73, you've got up to 13 characters of free

00:45:19.460 --> 00:45:23.079
text that can be used. So if you are using it

00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:27.400
during field day and wonder how you can exchange

00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.539
the required field day information, put it in

00:45:30.539 --> 00:45:36.900
TX5, so you'd say 3AWMA73. and you hope that

00:45:36.900 --> 00:45:39.900
the other station gives you a similar TX -5 response.

00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.500
If they don't, you can't count them as a statistical

00:45:44.500 --> 00:45:47.019
QSO for field day. That doesn't mean you can't

00:45:47.019 --> 00:45:49.059
have fun with it, doesn't mean you can't experiment

00:45:49.059 --> 00:45:51.280
with it, doesn't mean you can't demonstrate it

00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.260
to other people, and it doesn't mean you can't

00:45:54.260 --> 00:45:57.019
be using it in some fashion, but you just can't

00:45:57.019 --> 00:45:59.199
count the QSOs that don't have the valid exchange.

00:46:01.099 --> 00:46:02.940
Okay, very good. Well Bart, we're going to give

00:46:02.940 --> 00:46:06.800
you a minute breather here. David, let's talk

00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:10.159
about the soapbox a little bit and and some thank

00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:15.400
you letters. Sure. Yeah, the soapbox is a great

00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:18.159
opportunity for people to get information out

00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:25.179
there and that's it's on the ARRL website, arl

00:46:25.179 --> 00:46:31.599
.org slash contest slash soapbox. that should

00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.039
get you to it and it gives you a chance to put

00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:39.920
comments on. I want to spend most of my time

00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.900
though talking about thank you letters and I

00:46:42.900 --> 00:46:45.739
think that's important. I wouldn't say letter,

00:46:45.820 --> 00:46:51.280
I mean I would do email notes but obviously just

00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.019
like you would thank the volunteers who came

00:46:54.019 --> 00:46:58.139
out to help you with the setup and with running

00:46:58.139 --> 00:47:03.769
your station. or for field day, you should send

00:47:03.769 --> 00:47:08.050
notes to all of the to any media that shows up

00:47:08.050 --> 00:47:11.250
at your at your event. You know, thank them for

00:47:11.250 --> 00:47:14.630
coming out. I would also say that if you that

00:47:14.630 --> 00:47:19.309
if the to go back even a little further, when

00:47:19.309 --> 00:47:21.489
media show up at your field day, make sure that

00:47:21.489 --> 00:47:23.030
you're there to welcome them. Make sure that

00:47:23.030 --> 00:47:27.010
there's somebody designated to greet them, to

00:47:27.010 --> 00:47:30.670
kind of take them around and and help them understand

00:47:30.670 --> 00:47:33.289
what they're looking at because they may not,

00:47:33.389 --> 00:47:36.090
they may not be aware. They've seen your, your

00:47:36.090 --> 00:47:39.489
email or your press release, but they, um, and

00:47:39.489 --> 00:47:41.389
they're going to cover it and they just don't

00:47:41.389 --> 00:47:43.809
know what they're, what they're looking at. So

00:47:43.809 --> 00:47:45.929
they'll need some guidance and some help when

00:47:45.929 --> 00:47:48.329
they get there. So make sure that you're, you

00:47:48.329 --> 00:47:51.849
have somebody designated to help them, um, explain

00:47:51.849 --> 00:47:54.750
what you're doing, why you're doing it. And,

00:47:54.949 --> 00:47:58.210
um, and give them some information about your

00:47:58.210 --> 00:48:02.489
field day operations. And then once that airs,

00:48:02.590 --> 00:48:06.309
I would send an email note to thank them for

00:48:06.309 --> 00:48:10.170
coming out and for helping to increase the visibility

00:48:10.170 --> 00:48:14.309
of amateur radio. And that's a great way to kind

00:48:14.309 --> 00:48:16.150
of go back to what we were saying at the beginning.

00:48:16.469 --> 00:48:18.829
It's a great way to start establishing relationships

00:48:18.829 --> 00:48:23.849
with folks in the media. When you send them a

00:48:23.849 --> 00:48:26.030
thank you note, they appreciate that, then they

00:48:26.030 --> 00:48:28.409
may get back in touch with you about something

00:48:28.409 --> 00:48:33.050
else later on. So I think sending a note, and

00:48:33.050 --> 00:48:37.710
I would do it primarily by email, you could do

00:48:37.710 --> 00:48:43.070
a handwritten note if you were so inclined. It's

00:48:43.070 --> 00:48:45.750
pretty hard to find how to make sure that that

00:48:45.750 --> 00:48:48.710
gets to the right person where email, at least,

00:48:48.789 --> 00:48:51.630
you know, it will get exactly to who you're sending

00:48:51.630 --> 00:48:57.230
it. So I would I would encourage that. And that's

00:48:57.230 --> 00:48:59.630
that's how that's how great relationships start.

00:48:59.670 --> 00:49:02.309
So I think those those are important things to

00:49:02.309 --> 00:49:06.449
do. All right, Bart, one last thing here. And

00:49:06.449 --> 00:49:13.239
in fact, Troy W9KVR just brought this up on the

00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.860
chat here about the go to station. We haven't

00:49:15.860 --> 00:49:17.940
talked about the freebies here, so everybody

00:49:17.940 --> 00:49:20.920
likes free stuff. So let's talk about the freebies

00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.139
for a minute. Sure. Did Troy have any specific

00:49:24.139 --> 00:49:26.119
question about go to just general? No, just,

00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.599
just to comment. It's good opportunity to add

00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.239
a radio to your regular ops. And so, you know,

00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.199
you can get some, some youth ops on and that

00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.559
kind of thing. Exactly. So the go -to station

00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.940
is free. You don't get too many things in life

00:49:40.940 --> 00:49:43.480
that are free and certainly in field day it's

00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:50.460
our free. Here's a way to provide a station that

00:49:50.460 --> 00:49:55.380
the public, that inactive hams, that newcomers,

00:49:55.780 --> 00:50:00.019
newly licensed hams, youth can have an opportunity

00:50:00.019 --> 00:50:03.420
to sit down at and not feel the pressure of I

00:50:03.420 --> 00:50:06.019
have to make contacts because that's why we have

00:50:06.019 --> 00:50:08.840
the stations, these other stations set up. This

00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.840
station is exclusively there for them to get

00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.340
the amateur radio experience firsthand. It's

00:50:16.340 --> 00:50:19.880
an opportunity for, because there is a control

00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.960
operator who is in charge, it's an opportunity

00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:26.099
for any person, licensed or unlicensed, to sit

00:50:26.099 --> 00:50:28.159
down and understand the experience of making

00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:31.300
these contacts. We have an example that we showed

00:50:31.300 --> 00:50:34.980
in a photo in QST last year in the field day

00:50:34.980 --> 00:50:37.199
write up where we had one of the elected representatives

00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.920
in the Carolinas, a lady, who was operating at

00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:43.619
that field day site. She wasn't licensed. She

00:50:43.619 --> 00:50:45.840
was a U .S. representative and she wanted to

00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:47.599
find out more about amateur radio and they sat

00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:49.699
her down and they put her on the air and she

00:50:49.699 --> 00:50:51.800
had a great time. They got a photo op. It was

00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.559
terrific. So the go -to station is a way to earn

00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:00.059
points for your field day activity. Every 20

00:51:00.059 --> 00:51:04.159
contacts generates 20 bonus points, up to 100

00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:09.840
bonus points per individual. And so you can chuck

00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:13.559
up those points quite readily. Again, it's in

00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.820
increments of 20, so 19 doesn't earn you anything,

00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:19.960
but certainly 20 does as well as increments of

00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:25.019
20. We also have a free VHF UHF station, so it

00:51:25.019 --> 00:51:27.880
does not count in your transmitter count. so

00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:31.360
you decide, you know, do we really need another

00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:33.760
station? Well, guess what? It doesn't count against

00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.880
you. It's free. And frankly, if anybody's been

00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.199
paying attention to the VHF bands right now,

00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:46.019
we had the VHF contest just a weekend ago, and

00:51:46.019 --> 00:51:51.059
the activity was boom, I'm sorry, two weekends

00:51:51.059 --> 00:51:54.599
ago, the activity was booming. Six meters for

00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:58.070
a better half of the the will be uh... u uh...

00:51:58.070 --> 00:52:00.670
north america mostly the on the uh... eastern

00:52:00.670 --> 00:52:04.130
side was racking up contacts some of the stations

00:52:04.130 --> 00:52:08.630
have hundreds of contacts and uh... and two meters

00:52:08.630 --> 00:52:11.269
has prevent uh... presented e -skip in the last

00:52:11.269 --> 00:52:14.409
couple of days so you know field day station

00:52:14.409 --> 00:52:17.429
scattered across the u s uh... it's it's often

00:52:17.429 --> 00:52:21.070
like a vhf contact and so you will find activity

00:52:21.070 --> 00:52:24.460
and two -meter sideband 2 meter digital modes,

00:52:24.900 --> 00:52:29.579
MSK 144 for meteor scatter, FT8 as well, 2 meters

00:52:29.579 --> 00:52:33.699
as well as 6 meters, 6 meters 50 .313, 2 meters

00:52:33.699 --> 00:52:39.039
about 144, 140 or so, between 140 and 150. And

00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:42.599
so again, free stations, 6 meters may actually

00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.480
generate more contacts than 10 meters does, and

00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.619
10 meters may be open. So don't rule out these

00:52:49.619 --> 00:52:54.889
higher bands, they will be uh... activity uh...

00:52:54.889 --> 00:52:58.030
pool uh... places for your station and again

00:52:58.030 --> 00:53:00.130
don't and neil i don't know do you want me to

00:53:00.130 --> 00:53:02.510
touch on the bonuses quickly yeah let's do it

00:53:02.510 --> 00:53:05.909
let's do it real quick so you have a number of

00:53:05.909 --> 00:53:08.610
bonuses uh... starting at the vhs site you've

00:53:08.610 --> 00:53:11.690
got the satellite bonus for making uh... satellite

00:53:11.690 --> 00:53:14.550
contact you've got the emergency car bonus for

00:53:14.550 --> 00:53:16.929
stations that are running that you've got uh...

00:53:16.929 --> 00:53:19.210
the media publicity at david talked about if

00:53:19.210 --> 00:53:21.050
you're in a public location you get a bonus for

00:53:21.050 --> 00:53:23.610
that If you have a public information table with

00:53:23.610 --> 00:53:26.130
information about amateur radio, somebody being

00:53:26.130 --> 00:53:28.590
the focal point, like the person that David mentioned

00:53:28.590 --> 00:53:32.730
who would greet the media or the public and take

00:53:32.730 --> 00:53:35.230
them one -on -one and explain to them why we're

00:53:35.230 --> 00:53:39.969
there. A formal National Traffic System message

00:53:39.969 --> 00:53:44.329
to the SM or SEC is a bonus for that one message

00:53:44.329 --> 00:53:46.510
if you generate it from your field day site and

00:53:46.510 --> 00:53:49.989
send it out. The W1A2 copying the W1A2 field

00:53:49.989 --> 00:53:52.489
day message, which is sent several times during

00:53:52.489 --> 00:53:54.829
the event. Look in our field day packet and you'll

00:53:54.829 --> 00:53:57.269
see the entire schedule of field day bulletins.

00:53:57.989 --> 00:54:00.150
Formal messages, your group can handle up to

00:54:00.150 --> 00:54:04.289
10 formal messages. Sending them, or passing

00:54:04.289 --> 00:54:06.789
them, in other words, being relayed, or receiving

00:54:06.789 --> 00:54:10.289
them for up to 100 additional points. Natural

00:54:10.289 --> 00:54:13.769
power QSOs, if you make up to five natural power

00:54:13.769 --> 00:54:17.230
QSOs, you get a bonus. So this would be a source

00:54:17.230 --> 00:54:19.170
other than your generator. This would probably

00:54:19.170 --> 00:54:21.869
be a solar panel. This would be a wind generator,

00:54:22.530 --> 00:54:25.269
things of that nature. But five QSOs have to

00:54:25.269 --> 00:54:28.630
be made with it. You get additional points. If

00:54:28.630 --> 00:54:30.690
you get an elected official visit, you'll get

00:54:30.690 --> 00:54:34.349
a bonus. If you've invited serve agency officials,

00:54:34.550 --> 00:54:37.650
not that they showed up, but if you have invited

00:54:37.650 --> 00:54:39.230
them, and I should have said that under the elected

00:54:39.230 --> 00:54:41.369
official as well, you don't have to expect them

00:54:41.369 --> 00:54:43.550
to show up. You just have to invite them. You'll

00:54:43.550 --> 00:54:47.179
get a bonus just for taking that to act uh...

00:54:47.179 --> 00:54:52.139
educational activity uh... you have uh... you

00:54:52.139 --> 00:54:54.260
can you want this bonus you need to develop a

00:54:54.260 --> 00:54:59.099
program a limited uh... uh... uh... scope uh...

00:54:59.099 --> 00:55:01.380
probably just uh... short uh... summary of what

00:55:01.380 --> 00:55:03.860
you plan to do administer it this need to be

00:55:03.860 --> 00:55:06.059
something more than ten minutes you know probably

00:55:06.059 --> 00:55:09.159
talking thirty to sixty minute activity something

00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:11.719
that would help them gain knowledge about certain

00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:15.940
aspects of amateur radio building antennas uh...

00:55:15.940 --> 00:55:19.039
setting up a uh... all i don't know setting up

00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.659
a uh... a digital station for maybe p star or

00:55:22.659 --> 00:55:25.280
maybe uh... some people have suggested how do

00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:29.599
i get involved with amateur tv uh... i'd suggested

00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:32.659
that the educational activity could be a training

00:55:32.659 --> 00:55:35.880
with uh... first uh... for uh... first aid or

00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.420
eighty training uh... in conjunction with the

00:55:38.420 --> 00:55:42.480
state Again, we talked about social media. We

00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.920
have a safety officer bonus as well. Somebody

00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:47.400
who's responsible or a couple people who will

00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.380
oversee the entire event to maintain a safety

00:55:52.380 --> 00:55:56.099
outlook, a safety perspective. And not last but

00:55:56.099 --> 00:55:58.860
certainly not least, youth participation. The

00:55:58.860 --> 00:56:01.280
number of youth who completed at least one QSO.

00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:04.360
There are bonuses for youth participation. And

00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:07.860
we've been amateurs for a long time, many of

00:56:07.860 --> 00:56:11.179
us, and we realize that we're not seeing as many

00:56:11.179 --> 00:56:14.099
young people you know reach out to people who

00:56:14.099 --> 00:56:16.260
you know are interested in amateur radio get

00:56:16.260 --> 00:56:19.199
them involved uh... if you can engage their family

00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.940
bring them to the field eight site uh... be their

00:56:21.940 --> 00:56:25.539
mentor uh... that's probably one of the primary

00:56:25.539 --> 00:56:29.059
uh... focuses for amateur radio right now is

00:56:29.059 --> 00:56:31.920
we need more mentors and uh... uh... that's what

00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.719
we had you know decades ago we've kind of lost

00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.920
sight on that And if we can now return to that,

00:56:38.260 --> 00:56:39.940
mentoring is probably going to be one of the

00:56:39.940 --> 00:56:43.440
strengths of helping people find their way either

00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.559
into amateur radio, back into amateur radio,

00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:48.599
and even through it as a new licensee versus

00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:50.579
they get the license and then they don't go anywhere

00:56:50.579 --> 00:56:54.460
because they don't know what to do next. All

00:56:54.460 --> 00:56:56.119
right. Well, there you have the quick version

00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:57.920
of that. Of course, all of that can be found

00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:03.710
in the Field Day packet. in QST Magazine as well.

00:57:04.929 --> 00:57:09.070
So guys, thanks so much for coming on and we

00:57:09.070 --> 00:57:11.789
appreciate you taking all of the questions and

00:57:11.789 --> 00:57:15.170
putting together some stuff to talk about and

00:57:15.170 --> 00:57:18.210
get people ready to go for field day this weekend.

00:57:20.190 --> 00:57:21.969
Thank you very much, Neil, for the opportunity.

00:57:22.710 --> 00:57:25.170
Gonna be an exciting time, Neil. Thousands of

00:57:25.170 --> 00:57:26.969
hams are gonna be engaged. These are the people

00:57:26.969 --> 00:57:30.780
that don't necessarily engage socially an amateur

00:57:30.780 --> 00:57:32.980
radio any other time of the year. Maybe they're

00:57:32.980 --> 00:57:35.960
housebound, you know, they're older hams now

00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:37.659
who just don't have necessarily the opportunity

00:57:37.659 --> 00:57:39.800
to get out, but they still find their way to

00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:42.980
Field Day. And I've been working on Field Day

00:57:42.980 --> 00:57:46.400
as the program has gone on because I'm doing

00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.460
the three hour long Windows update on the laptop.

00:57:52.090 --> 00:57:55.610
We've been multitasking tonight. We let the windows

00:57:55.610 --> 00:57:58.809
update run and so we're for a logging computer

00:57:58.809 --> 00:58:02.090
ready to go. So looking forward to it. I'll be

00:58:02.090 --> 00:58:05.409
operating under K9IU's auspices this weekend

00:58:05.409 --> 00:58:09.050
at field day. We'll be over at the Indiana University

00:58:09.050 --> 00:58:11.289
campus doing that with the high school group

00:58:11.289 --> 00:58:15.579
as well and some others. Hopefully, we'll hear

00:58:15.579 --> 00:58:20.219
you all on the air. So that is a wrap for this

00:58:20.219 --> 00:58:23.219
week's edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks to my

00:58:23.219 --> 00:58:27.199
guests, Bart Yonkey, W9JJ, David Isker, N1RSN,

00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:29.500
and everybody out there in cyberspace for listening

00:58:29.500 --> 00:58:33.059
and for writing in tonight. And invite you all

00:58:33.059 --> 00:58:35.860
back next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time.

00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:40.119
Marty Soloway, KC1CWF, will be here with... some

00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:43.420
of the Baker Island, the expedition team, and

00:58:43.420 --> 00:58:46.340
if everything gets set up right, yes, we're going

00:58:46.340 --> 00:58:50.739
to come to you live from Baker Island next week.

00:58:50.780 --> 00:58:53.960
So you don't want to miss that and a list of

00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.820
our upcoming guests. as always at HamTalkLive

00:58:57.820 --> 00:59:02.159
.com. So I'm going to let you all go. Thanks

00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:04.260
for staying a little longer tonight. And this

00:59:04.260 --> 00:59:08.960
is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7375. Have a great

00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:12.059
field day weekend. And as always, may the good

00:59:12.059 --> 00:59:13.440
DX be yours.
