WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.640 This episode of HamTalk Live is brought to you 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:06.040 by Tower Electronics. For connectors, cables, 00:00:06.259 --> 00:00:12.980 and more, call 920 -435 -2973 or visit pl -259 00:00:12.980 --> 00:00:17.660 .com. And by ICOM, heard it, worked it, logged 00:00:17.660 --> 00:00:22.879 it. Visit www .icomamerica .com slash amateur 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:30.649 for more information about ICOM radios. with 00:00:30.649 --> 00:00:37.049 Neorep, here we go, welcome to Amtopi, call in, 00:00:37.210 --> 00:01:07.129 let's talk, Neil's your guy, Amtopi Thanks for 00:01:07.129 --> 00:01:27.230 tuning in to this episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight 00:01:27.230 --> 00:01:31.359 we're joined by Val Hotsfeld, NV9L, who will 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:35.359 be comparing some options for logging. And we'll 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:39.099 take your calls live in just a few minutes. Last 00:01:39.099 --> 00:01:42.719 week here on the show, Bryant's rascal, KG5HVO, 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:46.180 and Don Wilbanks, AE5DW, were here to talk about 00:01:46.180 --> 00:01:49.459 the 2018 Newsline Young Ham of the Year award. 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:52.239 And if you missed the show, you can listen anytime 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:55.459 at HamTalkLive .com or on one of the podcast 00:01:55.459 --> 00:01:59.069 apps. or on YouTube. And don't forget, you can 00:01:59.069 --> 00:02:01.989 catch the presentation ceremony Saturday at 2 00:02:01.989 --> 00:02:05.230 p .m. at the Huntsville Hamfest. And if you can't 00:02:05.230 --> 00:02:07.829 make it to Huntsville, you can catch it live 00:02:07.829 --> 00:02:14.069 on the video stream at w5kub .com. And speaking 00:02:14.069 --> 00:02:17.789 of logging tonight, the creator of Microlog asked 00:02:17.789 --> 00:02:20.110 me to announce that his new book entitled Calm 00:02:20.110 --> 00:02:24.300 Down, It's Only Math. is out, and it's an easy 00:02:24.300 --> 00:02:27.120 -to -read math book to help hams who think knowing 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.340 a little more math might be helpful. You can 00:02:29.340 --> 00:02:34.740 check it out at WA0H .com. That's WA0H .com. 00:02:35.219 --> 00:02:39.000 And you can also download Microlog there as well. 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:42.240 And one more announcement. In addition to Huntsville 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.719 this weekend, the Kansas ARRL convention is being 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:50.840 held in Salina, Kansas on Sunday, August 19th. 00:02:50.889 --> 00:02:53.169 and they'll have vendors, forums, swap meet, 00:02:53.229 --> 00:02:57.150 homebrew, project share also will take place. 00:02:57.210 --> 00:03:01.449 You can get more information at w0cy .org. So 00:03:01.449 --> 00:03:03.509 get all your logging questions ready to go. We're 00:03:03.509 --> 00:03:06.449 going to take those after we talk to Val for 00:03:06.449 --> 00:03:09.150 a little bit. The phone number so you can have 00:03:09.150 --> 00:03:13.409 it ready to go. So write this down. It's 812 00:03:13.409 --> 00:03:21.580 -net -ham -1. 812 -638. 4 -2 -6 -1 and you can 00:03:21.580 --> 00:03:23.620 use that number to call in a little bit. We'll 00:03:23.620 --> 00:03:26.439 announce when we'll start to take calls. You 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:29.219 can also call in on Skype if you would rather 00:03:29.219 --> 00:03:33.120 do that than phone. We're HamTalk Live on Skype. 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:37.199 You can also tweet us at HamTalk Live and I'll 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.199 be back with Val right after this word from Icom 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:44.259 America right here on HamTalk Live. Heard it? 00:03:44.539 --> 00:03:48.400 Worked it? Logged it. It's time to get the transceiver 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:51.680 that is best suited for your lifestyle. ICOM 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.419 offers a variety of high performance and innovative 00:03:54.419 --> 00:03:57.159 products. See how you can make the most out of 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:00.240 contest season with one of these transceivers. 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:04.060 First the IC -7851. It's the competitive edge 00:04:04.060 --> 00:04:06.539 you've been looking for. 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Your host, Neil 00:05:31.379 --> 00:05:34.180 Rapp, may be too radial short of a full ground 00:05:34.180 --> 00:05:38.139 system, but he's back now with more HamTalk Live. 00:05:47.139 --> 00:05:49.879 Thanks to ICOM for sponsoring the show and you 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.399 can check them out at Huntsville this weekend. 00:05:52.540 --> 00:05:56.420 They'll be down there. Saul Ray was just arriving 00:05:56.420 --> 00:06:00.279 a little bit ago, so be sure to check them out 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.259 if you're down in Huntsville and you can always 00:06:03.259 --> 00:06:07.759 check them out at icomamerica .com. And tonight 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:12.319 we have Val in V9L, originally from Wisconsin, 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.860 now resides in Illinois. She is a co -host on 00:06:15.860 --> 00:06:19.420 the video podcast Ham Nation on the Twitch network, 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:23.100 which, um, that's where she usually contributes 00:06:23.100 --> 00:06:26.860 information about DXing and contesting. Val is 00:06:26.860 --> 00:06:29.540 one of the most noted YLs in the hobby and spends 00:06:29.540 --> 00:06:31.939 most of her weekends on the air working contests, 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:36.170 along with her husband, Jerry WB9Z. And she's 00:06:36.170 --> 00:06:38.889 a member of many DX and contesting clubs and 00:06:38.889 --> 00:06:44.009 ARRL volunteer examiner. And she is the 2017 00:06:44.009 --> 00:06:47.889 Dayton Hamvention amateur of the year. So Val, 00:06:47.970 --> 00:06:51.009 thanks for coming back on the show. Thanks for 00:06:51.009 --> 00:06:53.490 having me, Neil. Appreciate it. This is one subject 00:06:53.490 --> 00:06:56.730 that's near and dear to my heart. I actually, 00:06:56.970 --> 00:06:58.889 even though I have a bachelor's degree in accounting, 00:06:59.069 --> 00:07:01.509 I minored in computer science. So Jerry always 00:07:01.509 --> 00:07:04.560 does the hardware and I always do. software and 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.699 all, anything to do software related, this is 00:07:06.699 --> 00:07:09.079 my thing. So thanks for having me on to do this. 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:12.319 Well, you were the first person I thought of. 00:07:12.899 --> 00:07:17.839 I had some questions come in about logging and 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:22.860 how to get going on things and I referred them 00:07:22.860 --> 00:07:25.839 to some of your YouTube videos and thought, you 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.550 know, we probably ought to do a... a call -in 00:07:28.550 --> 00:07:31.769 show on logging. So I wanted to have you come 00:07:31.769 --> 00:07:33.670 on and do that. But before we get started, I 00:07:33.670 --> 00:07:37.329 know you wanted to throw a plug in here for the 00:07:37.329 --> 00:07:40.850 Society of Midwest Contesters. Yeah, for any 00:07:40.850 --> 00:07:43.129 of those of you out there just getting started, 00:07:43.509 --> 00:07:45.230 getting your feet wet in contesting and want 00:07:45.230 --> 00:07:48.730 to learn more, we're having our SMC Fest, not 00:07:48.730 --> 00:07:51.089 this weekend but the following weekend. If you're 00:07:51.089 --> 00:07:52.930 interested in going, you can learn more if you 00:07:52.930 --> 00:07:57.079 just go to W9SMC .com. And it's a great event 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:00.360 all day long, great topics to make you a better 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:04.639 contester, and it's a lot of fun, a lot of camaraderie. 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:08.459 And we have some good prizes. I'm prize chairman 00:08:08.459 --> 00:08:10.360 for that, so we're up to about $3 ,000 worth 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:14.000 of prizes just for that event. So definitely 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:17.379 check that out if interested. And it's in Bloomington, 00:08:17.379 --> 00:08:21.920 Illinois. Or actually, normal. Normal. Bloomington 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:26.029 normal. And it's Illinois, not Indiana. We get 00:08:26.029 --> 00:08:28.529 that confused all the time. I'm in Bloomington, 00:08:28.529 --> 00:08:30.509 Indiana, and they're in Bloomington, Illinois. 00:08:30.589 --> 00:08:34.009 It's like, wait a minute, hold it. So yeah, Bloomington, 00:08:34.009 --> 00:08:37.269 Illinois, and sounds like some some good prizes 00:08:37.269 --> 00:08:39.169 there. So you might win something if you go. 00:08:39.950 --> 00:08:43.110 So everyone gets a prize. Yeah, everybody gets 00:08:43.110 --> 00:08:47.610 a prize. Everybody goes. So sounds like a good 00:08:47.610 --> 00:08:50.970 time. Well, let's get into talking about logging 00:08:50.970 --> 00:08:55.220 and the original reason for doing this is some 00:08:55.220 --> 00:09:02.340 people said, Hey, I want to, you know, get beyond 00:09:02.340 --> 00:09:07.320 just my paper log and my own computer log, because 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:10.159 people need the log book of the world credit. 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:14.980 And I'm not giving that to them because I'm not 00:09:14.980 --> 00:09:17.299 signed up with Logbook of the World and I don't 00:09:17.299 --> 00:09:20.139 know how to go about doing that and I don't know 00:09:20.139 --> 00:09:23.779 how to get all this interfaced so that I can 00:09:23.779 --> 00:09:27.159 do that. So I'm just going to turn you loose 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:31.200 here and talk about some different logging programs. 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.299 You've tried a ton of them and talk about how 00:09:35.299 --> 00:09:40.379 those interface to Logbook of the World. Yeah, 00:09:40.379 --> 00:09:43.200 well about three years ago, I did a big series 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.379 on different logging softwares And I included 00:09:46.379 --> 00:09:51.080 also how to set up install and use LOTW Which 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:53.700 was a three -part series, so I did play with 00:09:53.700 --> 00:09:57.000 a lot of different software But it all depends 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.600 on what you're gonna use it for that's it's basically 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:03.539 it I mean, I'm an avid contester and for contesting 00:10:03.539 --> 00:10:09.480 there's You know n1 mm plus is a really big one 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:13.100 and I use that pretty much exclusively But there's 00:10:13.100 --> 00:10:16.759 some other good ones out there as well. I think 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:21.240 it's m3 fjp software They have good software 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.820 for for a lot of people use that as well But 00:10:24.820 --> 00:10:26.480 I really don't have a lot of experience with 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.779 that, but I checked it out looks fine and dandy 00:10:28.779 --> 00:10:31.279 I just liked all the bells and whistles that 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:35.269 come with n1 mm logger plus and it you know It's 00:10:35.269 --> 00:10:40.149 free. They update it regularly. They respond 00:10:40.149 --> 00:10:44.470 to your questions very quickly. And it's pretty 00:10:44.470 --> 00:10:46.370 user -friendly. There's all kinds of tips and 00:10:46.370 --> 00:10:50.309 tricks that you learn as you go. But you can 00:10:50.309 --> 00:10:53.950 have it fully installed and have your radio interfaced 00:10:53.950 --> 00:10:56.450 and be up and rolling in less than an hour with 00:10:56.450 --> 00:10:59.350 N1MM Longer Plus. So that one's a pretty good 00:10:59.350 --> 00:11:01.090 one if you're going to be doing any contesting. 00:11:01.409 --> 00:11:04.889 Not really good for If you want to track and 00:11:04.889 --> 00:11:06.629 you're DXing and you want to track if you sent 00:11:06.629 --> 00:11:08.889 out QSL cards or got them back or different awards 00:11:08.889 --> 00:11:11.509 you're chasing, because there's nowhere to put, 00:11:11.690 --> 00:11:14.230 you know, if you've sent QSL out and received 00:11:14.230 --> 00:11:17.669 QSL back, things like that. And so for actual 00:11:17.669 --> 00:11:23.929 DXing logging software, the two big ones are 00:11:23.929 --> 00:11:28.649 Ham Radio Deluxe, and that's a one -time $100 00:11:28.649 --> 00:11:32.970 fee. And it's like a Cadillac. It's the Cadillac, 00:11:33.009 --> 00:11:34.809 I think, of the logging software. And it's only 00:11:34.809 --> 00:11:37.110 $100, and that's not a yearly thing. It's just 00:11:37.110 --> 00:11:40.049 a one -time thing. You can also sign up for annual 00:11:40.049 --> 00:11:44.669 support if you are not real computer savvy. But 00:11:44.669 --> 00:11:48.389 it's so easy and easy to install and easy to 00:11:48.389 --> 00:11:52.230 use and user -friendly. You may not need it. 00:11:52.230 --> 00:11:54.309 Maybe get it the first year just to see if you'll 00:11:54.309 --> 00:11:56.490 use it. But I don't think you'll need it. It's 00:11:56.490 --> 00:11:59.500 a really nice software. And it interfaces with 00:11:59.500 --> 00:12:01.740 your radio as well. But if you're more computer 00:12:01.740 --> 00:12:05.100 savvy, you can use what I use for my logging 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:07.879 software, and that's DX Lab Suite. They have 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:10.000 a bunch of different modules you can put on. 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:13.559 So if you want to keep just your DX log, the 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:20.980 DX keeper, they have spotting. When you set it 00:12:20.980 --> 00:12:23.639 up and it mixes with your log, you can set it 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:27.200 up to... notify you on your computer when there's 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.120 a new country that you need on a band that you 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.139 need on a mode you need so It's got a lot of 00:12:32.139 --> 00:12:34.820 cool bells and whistles like that in different 00:12:34.820 --> 00:12:38.139 modules if you use a lot of you know, you can 00:12:38.139 --> 00:12:41.179 install or not install whichever you want based 00:12:41.179 --> 00:12:45.399 on what you're going to utilize but and then 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:49.120 So those are the three main ones I would say 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:51.539 and then of course you do need to have LOTW like 00:12:51.539 --> 00:12:55.159 you were saying Neil and It's kind of confusing, 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:58.600 and it's a lot of hoops to jump through to get 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:01.460 it and sign up for your postcard, get your postcard, 00:13:01.460 --> 00:13:03.700 and what to do. But I do walk you through it 00:13:03.700 --> 00:13:06.019 step by step in my three part series too on my 00:13:06.019 --> 00:13:08.399 YouTube video. I also walk you through DX Lab 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:10.940 Suite. I walk you through AM Radio Deluxe. If 00:13:10.940 --> 00:13:13.139 you want to go to Valerie Housfeld on YouTube, 00:13:13.700 --> 00:13:17.289 you can find a lot of my... Videos how to upload 00:13:17.289 --> 00:13:20.009 call history files for contesting how you know 00:13:20.009 --> 00:13:23.009 a lot of computer things Software things are 00:13:23.009 --> 00:13:28.230 on on my YouTube video. So Let's talk a little 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:30.690 bit about Going back and forth between these 00:13:30.690 --> 00:13:33.129 and and I was kind of glad to know as we were 00:13:33.129 --> 00:13:35.929 talking this week about You know what what you 00:13:35.929 --> 00:13:38.509 do and it seems pretty similar to what I do and 00:13:38.509 --> 00:13:42.840 so that made me feel good That you know I use 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:46.960 a contest logger, you know, for School Club Roundup, 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.759 and it's a special one made just for that, but 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:52.820 then if we work other contests, again, I like 00:13:52.820 --> 00:13:58.240 the N1MM+. And then I take that file and move 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:02.500 that over into the DX Lab Suite so that we keep 00:14:02.500 --> 00:14:05.860 our master database there of all of our contacts, 00:14:05.980 --> 00:14:09.509 whether it's contesting, DXing, whatever. and 00:14:09.509 --> 00:14:12.230 it has all of the options and all the different 00:14:12.230 --> 00:14:16.889 weird exports and you know it does all of that 00:14:16.889 --> 00:14:21.090 it's not the friendliest piece of software but 00:14:21.090 --> 00:14:25.029 it does everything and so we keep our main database 00:14:25.029 --> 00:14:28.029 in that and we can go in and check off our cards 00:14:28.029 --> 00:14:32.190 and and run reports and and and move everything 00:14:32.190 --> 00:14:35.720 around I run the reports on who I sent cards 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:38.720 to and who's late on getting me a card back, 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.820 you know. It's got a lot of stuff like that, 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:44.039 which you'll need once you start trying to get 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:46.399 banned countries in a lot of countries, so yeah, 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:49.519 I do that as well. Yeah, and then you just upload 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:54.399 it to, you know, we love to load a QRZ because 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.720 we've got a few people that are on there and 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:01.399 that lets us have web access so the kids can 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:06.500 log in and see that. from anywhere and Logbook 00:15:06.500 --> 00:15:10.919 of the World and EQSL and Club Log and do all 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.500 of that. You can set that up where it automatically 00:15:13.500 --> 00:15:17.879 does that for you. It's nice. I have mine set 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:22.460 up to go to LOTW automatically and Club Log automatically. 00:15:22.659 --> 00:15:25.860 I used to have it set up to go to EQSL, but it 00:15:25.860 --> 00:15:28.039 really didn't get a lot of people needing it 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:32.320 for EQSL, so I kind of let that one go. So that's 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:35.649 nice. And the key here to software, any of these 00:15:35.649 --> 00:15:38.990 logging softwares, is being able to have them 00:15:38.990 --> 00:15:42.669 export an ADIF file because that's what you need. 00:15:43.269 --> 00:15:45.470 All of these software, you know, all these places, 00:15:45.549 --> 00:15:49.789 they want you to import ADIF files so that when 00:15:49.789 --> 00:15:51.350 you're looking at a software, you want to make 00:15:51.350 --> 00:15:56.909 sure that's the file type that they use. And 00:15:56.909 --> 00:16:01.690 you can comment on this. I've got this idea at 00:16:01.690 --> 00:16:05.970 least that If you're more of a casual operator, 00:16:06.090 --> 00:16:11.110 and you're not doing satellites and some of the 00:16:11.110 --> 00:16:13.649 other things, and like you said, the contesting 00:16:13.649 --> 00:16:17.529 and all, the QRZ .com web -based logbook is a 00:16:17.529 --> 00:16:22.230 pretty good deal, and interfacing that to Logbook 00:16:22.230 --> 00:16:26.269 of the World once you get it set up is really 00:16:26.269 --> 00:16:30.269 easy. uh... and so a lot of times i will actually 00:16:30.269 --> 00:16:33.289 who run the logbook of the world export right 00:16:33.289 --> 00:16:36.850 out of it and you don't yours that is a really 00:16:36.850 --> 00:16:40.830 good yeah i'm in there too i i mean i export 00:16:40.830 --> 00:16:43.509 or send them to all a bunch of different places 00:16:43.509 --> 00:16:46.029 cuz so many people use so many different things 00:16:46.029 --> 00:16:49.259 i just when i'm done With a contest I'll put 00:16:49.259 --> 00:16:51.279 them in all of them or once a month I'll do a 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.179 major export and just throw them in all of them 00:16:53.179 --> 00:16:55.559 or I have the ones I don't have set up automatically 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:58.840 but and what's nice about the QRZ one they have 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:02.440 a great little leaderboard Right you guys do 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:04.579 you follow your leaderboard? Yeah, they have 00:17:04.579 --> 00:17:07.140 a little leaderboard there and yeah, I'm number 00:17:07.140 --> 00:17:11.900 38 on most confirmed queues my goal is to get 00:17:11.900 --> 00:17:16.880 in that 15 There you go. It's always fun for 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:19.559 those of you who are competitive. Yeah. With 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:21.839 that leaderboard when you put those logs up there. 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.039 Yeah. And they have the little, you know, their 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:29.579 awards and you see, you know, you've got it recently 00:17:29.579 --> 00:17:32.279 and occasionally I'll see a call sign I know 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:35.220 and it's like, oh, hey, they got, you know, they 00:17:35.220 --> 00:17:38.980 got this or that. Um, it works out pretty well, 00:17:39.059 --> 00:17:42.140 but one of the things I found out is I've kind 00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:44.720 of gotten into satellites more in the last year 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.980 is that it just didn't handle it. And I tried 00:17:47.980 --> 00:17:51.680 to get some, some help on it. And it just, it 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:54.180 couldn't handle being in two grids at the same 00:17:54.180 --> 00:17:58.440 time. Uh, that just did not work at all. And 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:03.019 finally, I just went to the TQSL that comes with 00:18:03.019 --> 00:18:08.029 LOTW. and for satellite contacts and just started 00:18:08.029 --> 00:18:10.930 inputting everything there and uploading the 00:18:10.930 --> 00:18:16.069 satellite stuff there. So there's a lot of stuff 00:18:16.069 --> 00:18:24.410 going on to make all of this work. Also, if you 00:18:24.410 --> 00:18:28.170 do FT8... You know, I take that log, export it 00:18:28.170 --> 00:18:30.630 and then import it into my, you know, my DX lab 00:18:30.630 --> 00:18:32.890 suite too. So there's another log place that 00:18:32.890 --> 00:18:35.349 keeps your logs for you as well. That one does 00:18:35.349 --> 00:18:38.650 it automatically for you FT8 guys. But yeah, 00:18:38.750 --> 00:18:41.170 that's good that you use that LOTW one. Cause 00:18:41.170 --> 00:18:43.369 when I first got my, when I didn't know which 00:18:43.369 --> 00:18:45.049 software to use when I first got in the hobby, 00:18:45.509 --> 00:18:49.750 that's what I used. I used the LOTW log entry. 00:18:50.580 --> 00:18:53.380 And then I realized how limiting it was, but 00:18:53.380 --> 00:18:56.720 I did notice that you can do like a cross -band 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.900 thing on there, you know, so yeah. Yeah, to get 00:19:00.900 --> 00:19:05.400 the multiple locations and the grid squares and, 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:07.839 you know, multiple grid squares and that kind 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:10.240 of thing. You just about have to go with that 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:15.319 one because it just, the other log books just 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:20.539 don't really focus on that. So let's talk, and 00:19:20.539 --> 00:19:24.240 again, we can refer people to your YouTube channel 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:28.539 to get the exact walkthrough, but just kind of 00:19:28.539 --> 00:19:32.299 give us, you know, not necessarily step -by -step, 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.400 but kind of lead us through the process of, okay, 00:19:36.539 --> 00:19:39.799 I've got this logbook set up, how am I gonna 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:42.240 get this stuff to go up to Logbook of the World? 00:19:44.369 --> 00:19:47.650 To set up logbook of the world. Yeah To get the 00:19:47.650 --> 00:19:50.490 account set up and get everything going, you 00:19:50.490 --> 00:19:53.670 know into it from the software that you may have 00:19:53.670 --> 00:19:56.250 Well, yeah, you have to go in and register online 00:19:56.250 --> 00:19:59.029 first and get on there And then there's a download 00:19:59.029 --> 00:20:01.930 that you can do and then it'll request that they 00:20:01.930 --> 00:20:03.910 send you a card I mean it's been a while since 00:20:03.910 --> 00:20:06.509 I've even watched this video. I you know, I did 00:20:06.509 --> 00:20:11.450 this series, you know But then you get a postcard 00:20:11.450 --> 00:20:14.559 in the mail with a key on it, I believe. And 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.599 then at that point, you can enter that key and 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:22.279 set up everything on your system. And you get 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:26.579 a TQSL, which is a trusted QSL. So now that computer 00:20:26.579 --> 00:20:30.539 and only that computer is where your trusted 00:20:30.539 --> 00:20:33.619 QSL. So make sure you put that on the same computer 00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:36.900 where you keep your logs. It's much more convenient 00:20:36.900 --> 00:20:39.319 than trying to email it from one computer to 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:44.609 another. then you can get it all set up and then 00:20:44.609 --> 00:20:48.950 you have to take your logs into, they have like 00:20:48.950 --> 00:20:53.509 a little menu that you bring up and then you 00:20:53.509 --> 00:20:56.690 want to sign a log and so you want to set up 00:20:56.690 --> 00:20:59.029 your locations, you know, I remember that you 00:20:59.029 --> 00:21:01.049 can set up your locations and when I first set 00:21:01.049 --> 00:21:03.759 this up I was doing... making contacts down here 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:06.079 at Jerry's station on weekends, but then I'd 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:08.220 go home and make contacts up there. So I'd have 00:21:08.220 --> 00:21:10.640 two locations, because you're in two different 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.839 grid squares, things like that. And some of you 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:15.519 guys who are doing the grid chase, you can set 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:18.019 up multiple locations on LOTW. So then when you 00:21:18.019 --> 00:21:20.559 bring your logs in, if you know it's all from 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.619 the same location, you pick that location. But, 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:25.559 you know, I go through all of that in my video. 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:27.519 It's kind of hard to do all that over the phone, 00:21:27.539 --> 00:21:30.759 but it's... When you first look at it, it just 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.019 seems a little overwhelming. But if you follow 00:21:33.019 --> 00:21:35.119 some step -by -step, guys, I think even the AWRL 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:39.079 has videos on how -to as well. It's really not 00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:41.420 that hard. It's just a lot of hoops to jump through, 00:21:41.420 --> 00:21:43.980 basically. Once you're rockin' and rollin' and 00:21:43.980 --> 00:21:47.200 you got it all automated, it's nothing. Yeah, 00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:51.599 once you get the setup, it's pretty easy. Well, 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:56.319 before we take a break here, I know already I've 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.759 heard Don't forget the Mac, people. So what's 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.460 going on on the Mac? You know, I kind of talked 00:22:03.460 --> 00:22:05.480 about this when I was doing my series on logging 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:07.480 software, but I couldn't demo it because I don't 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:10.119 have a Mac. We have seven computers here, not 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:13.460 one is a Mac. But I did kind of hunt around and 00:22:13.460 --> 00:22:17.720 look at different software from then, but a great 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:22.559 resource for you Mac people is machamradio .com. 00:22:23.259 --> 00:22:25.680 And they have all kinds of different software 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:31.309 that's Mac, that works with Mac. I know Rumlog 00:22:31.309 --> 00:22:36.289 NG, November Golf, Rumlog November Golf. That 00:22:36.289 --> 00:22:38.910 one's free. A lot of people, it seemed, I just 00:22:38.910 --> 00:22:40.789 looked at reviews and kind of looked a little 00:22:40.789 --> 00:22:43.910 bit at screenshots and it looks fine and it's 00:22:43.910 --> 00:22:46.390 free. And then there's MacLogger DX, which is 00:22:46.390 --> 00:22:50.710 $95. So I bet those two compared to, you know, 00:22:50.809 --> 00:22:52.950 Rumlog would probably compare to the DX Lab Suite 00:22:52.950 --> 00:22:55.089 versus MacLogger DX, which would compare to the 00:22:55.089 --> 00:22:57.829 Ham Radio Deluxe, you know, so. Usually the ones 00:22:57.829 --> 00:23:00.549 you have to pay for are a lot easier to use. 00:23:01.009 --> 00:23:02.970 I can't guarantee that because I haven't tested 00:23:02.970 --> 00:23:07.230 it out. But machamradio .com, really good resource 00:23:07.230 --> 00:23:08.589 for any of you guys out there wanting to look 00:23:08.589 --> 00:23:10.710 at it. And it's not just for logging software, 00:23:10.769 --> 00:23:13.130 there's all kinds of software out there for you, 00:23:13.250 --> 00:23:17.170 for your Mac that has to do with Ham Radio. Alright, 00:23:17.190 --> 00:23:19.650 very good. And again, remind us where we can 00:23:19.650 --> 00:23:23.990 watch all of these videos on how to set up Logbook 00:23:23.990 --> 00:23:27.170 of the World and how to set up the the DX lab 00:23:27.170 --> 00:23:31.470 and N1MM. Yeah, well if you go, I have a YouTube 00:23:31.470 --> 00:23:33.430 channel where I post a lot of the videos that 00:23:33.430 --> 00:23:36.990 I've done for Hamnation and that's called, it's 00:23:36.990 --> 00:23:40.630 just Valerie Hatzfeld. But even if you just Google 00:23:40.630 --> 00:23:45.490 LOTW part one or like N1MM plus, make sure you 00:23:45.490 --> 00:23:48.230 watch that one. I did an old one called N1MM, 00:23:48.730 --> 00:23:54.160 but now there's N1MM plus. Google Ham Radio Deluxe. 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:55.940 My video will probably show up there as well 00:23:55.940 --> 00:23:58.680 in DX Lab Suite. I mean, I named them what they 00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:02.339 are, so they're easy to find, but Valerie Hatzfeldt, 00:24:02.420 --> 00:24:06.539 and that's Hotel Oscar Tango Zulu, Foxtrot Echo 00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:10.000 Lima Delta, Hatzfeldt, Valerie Hatzfeldt, and 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.400 all kinds of stuff. And there's all kinds of 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:16.910 other things to learn about, little tricks. I 00:24:16.910 --> 00:24:19.490 have different ones on just little tricks in 00:24:19.490 --> 00:24:23.710 N1MM, how to do call history files, all kinds 00:24:23.710 --> 00:24:27.769 of other how -to's. 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And it is time for your calls. 00:27:34.140 --> 00:27:40.140 So if you want to call in, 812 -638 -4261 is 00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:42.119 that telephone number? We'll give it to you again. 00:27:42.589 --> 00:27:44.849 here in a minute but it's time for your call 00:27:44.849 --> 00:27:47.450 so if you have a logging question here's your 00:27:47.450 --> 00:27:52.029 chance we'll see if we can answer that it's 812 00:27:52.029 --> 00:27:59.990 net ham 1 812 638 4261 or you can Skype us on 00:28:01.269 --> 00:28:06.309 Ham talk live or tweet us at ham talk live and 00:28:06.309 --> 00:28:09.269 While we're waiting on the calls to roll in here 00:28:09.269 --> 00:28:12.329 Val. Let's talk about interfacing a little bit 00:28:12.329 --> 00:28:17.269 and and trying to get the rig to Tell you what 00:28:17.269 --> 00:28:19.230 frequency you're on and all that kind of thing 00:28:19.230 --> 00:28:21.890 and get it into your log Yeah, I remember when 00:28:21.890 --> 00:28:24.130 I first started contesting. I put it uploaded 00:28:24.750 --> 00:28:27.089 M1MM for the first time and everyone says, you 00:28:27.089 --> 00:28:29.009 got to get it to interface with your radio. That's 00:28:29.009 --> 00:28:31.049 a game changer. And my jaw dropped when I did 00:28:31.049 --> 00:28:33.730 that. It's wonderful. Most of these software 00:28:33.730 --> 00:28:36.410 will all interface with your radio. It's the 00:28:36.410 --> 00:28:38.869 way pretty much every one of them does it that's 00:28:38.869 --> 00:28:41.369 out there now. And when you go in, you just can 00:28:41.369 --> 00:28:44.670 go into your configuration and you just pick, 00:28:44.670 --> 00:28:46.430 they have a dropdown, they have pretty much every 00:28:46.430 --> 00:28:49.730 radio ever made in that dropdown and you pick 00:28:49.730 --> 00:28:52.619 it and it knows. you know, how many parity and 00:28:52.619 --> 00:28:54.640 bits and all that stuff. It puts that all in 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.000 for you and it interfaces with your radio. You 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.819 need to have a CIV cable, you know, that's gonna 00:29:00.819 --> 00:29:04.460 go between the back of your radio and your computer. 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.900 But other than that, I mean, it's wonderful. 00:29:08.019 --> 00:29:10.579 You can put a band map up there. So say you're 00:29:10.579 --> 00:29:14.259 on 20 meters, it just shows the 20 meters. And 00:29:14.259 --> 00:29:17.220 you just click. You can click with your mouse 00:29:17.220 --> 00:29:19.640 on a frequency and your radio goes to it. It's 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:24.240 really nice. Your radio interfaces with your 00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.019 computer and you don't even have to touch any 00:29:26.019 --> 00:29:28.500 buttons on your radio. You can get a lot of your 00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:31.759 controls right there off your computer, so it's 00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:37.799 really nice. So 812 -638 -4261 is the telephone 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.079 number. If you have a logging question, give 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:45.720 us a call. While we're waiting on that, too, 00:29:46.220 --> 00:29:47.960 while we're waiting for someone to call, too, 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:49.759 another thing with a lot of these contesting 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:54.019 softwares, I know, like WriteLog and N1MM +, 00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:58.279 they have the LiveScore server interfaces built 00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.359 into them. So you can just go into, under the 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.740 Configure, there's a place called LiveScore server, 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.980 something like that. the drop -down menu, pick 00:30:07.980 --> 00:30:10.259 the live score server, and you go to that live 00:30:10.259 --> 00:30:12.220 score server beforehand, you just have to register, 00:30:12.380 --> 00:30:14.259 put in your call sign, come up with a password, 00:30:14.940 --> 00:30:18.500 and then in your config tab for the live score 00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:21.279 server, you just put in your login and password 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:25.460 there, and any contest you're in that they support, 00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:29.009 your scores are automatically in the background 00:30:29.009 --> 00:30:31.210 every three minutes or five minutes or whatever 00:30:31.210 --> 00:30:34.549 you pick, reporting your scores to this live 00:30:34.549 --> 00:30:36.410 score server. So when you're in a contest, you 00:30:36.410 --> 00:30:39.569 know live while you're in the middle of a contest, 00:30:39.650 --> 00:30:41.829 how you're doing compared to everybody else that's 00:30:41.829 --> 00:30:44.529 using score server. So it really makes it a much 00:30:44.529 --> 00:30:49.789 more now, you know, instant horse race, whereas 00:30:49.789 --> 00:30:52.230 normally with contesting, you do the contest, 00:30:52.789 --> 00:30:55.900 you submit your logs. People kind of look at 00:30:55.900 --> 00:30:58.700 3830 .com to see how they do compared to everybody, 00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:01.400 but it's not a clean log. It's a raw score, so 00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:03.880 you might wait six months to know how you did. 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:05.779 Whereas this one, you know, it's instant. You 00:31:05.779 --> 00:31:09.059 know, oh no, I'm behind 500 QSOS from this guy. 00:31:09.619 --> 00:31:11.680 You know, I better get to work or, you know, 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:13.660 so that's kind of fun. That's a cool thing that's 00:31:13.660 --> 00:31:18.819 in the contesting software. All right, 812 -638 00:31:18.819 --> 00:31:22.660 -4261 is the phone number to call or you can 00:31:22.660 --> 00:31:27.079 tweet us. or give us a call on Skype and we can 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:33.279 take your questions here. Let's talk about the 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:39.579 FL digi, WSJT, all those different digital modes 00:31:39.579 --> 00:31:43.759 and you were talking about the ADIF file that 00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:47.539 comes out of there and pulling that into the 00:31:47.539 --> 00:31:51.720 DX suite. Yeah, that's what I do because whenever 00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:57.869 you go into In the WSJT, whenever everybody on 00:31:57.869 --> 00:31:59.890 FT8, it just automatically, you know, when you're 00:31:59.890 --> 00:32:01.029 done with the queue, so it says, do you want 00:32:01.029 --> 00:32:03.490 to log it? Yes. And then every now and then, 00:32:03.650 --> 00:32:07.089 I just, every week or two, I'll export that ADIF 00:32:07.089 --> 00:32:11.670 and bring it into DX Lab Suite. So yeah, like 00:32:11.670 --> 00:32:14.069 you said, as long as everything's an ADIF file. 00:32:14.430 --> 00:32:17.009 You can move it around from logging software 00:32:17.009 --> 00:32:18.910 to logging software to logging software. So you 00:32:18.910 --> 00:32:21.890 can have multiple ones going on like Neil and 00:32:21.890 --> 00:32:26.250 I do. Our DX Lab Suite is our master log. But 00:32:26.250 --> 00:32:29.049 for different contests, we'll use a contest logging 00:32:29.049 --> 00:32:31.230 software. For FTA, we use a different software. 00:32:33.569 --> 00:32:36.730 Yeah, it's it's and and then like you said it's 00:32:36.730 --> 00:32:38.829 not uncommon for us to put it in a bunch of places 00:32:38.829 --> 00:32:41.329 because Everybody wants you know if you put it 00:32:41.329 --> 00:32:43.670 all on LOTW you're gonna get the people emailing 00:32:43.670 --> 00:32:47.230 you a please put it on QRZ, you know, and so 00:32:47.230 --> 00:32:51.849 Also, I do club log. That's kind of nice to put 00:32:51.849 --> 00:32:56.549 your logs up on club log to getting off the SJT 00:32:56.549 --> 00:33:01.259 subject, but They have OQRS on Club Log. Do you 00:33:01.259 --> 00:33:04.779 use that, Neil? Yeah, I just requested my Baker 00:33:04.779 --> 00:33:08.420 Island cards that way and you were reading my 00:33:08.420 --> 00:33:10.700 mind because that's exactly where I was headed. 00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:14.579 Let's talk about Club Log. Yeah, because you 00:33:14.579 --> 00:33:17.099 can do it not just to request cards you need 00:33:17.099 --> 00:33:18.720 from countries you need, but people who want 00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:23.500 to get your cards. And so I have OQRS set up 00:33:23.500 --> 00:33:26.650 for me. So people can request cards from me, 00:33:26.910 --> 00:33:29.750 I have the option, they pay $2 and I'll send 00:33:29.750 --> 00:33:33.910 a card direct, or they do the free one and I 00:33:33.910 --> 00:33:35.710 send it through the Bureau and it just saves 00:33:35.710 --> 00:33:38.930 me getting all those cards in through the Bureau. 00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:43.170 I used to get huge stacks of envelopes, now my 00:33:43.170 --> 00:33:45.910 envelopes have probably cut back to about 80 00:33:45.910 --> 00:33:48.470 % of what I used to get and they cost us, you 00:33:48.470 --> 00:33:50.630 know, for those of you out there who have to 00:33:50.630 --> 00:33:53.740 send money to your... card guy at your, you know, 00:33:54.019 --> 00:33:57.480 in your area that does your cards, you know, 00:33:57.539 --> 00:33:59.420 and those envelopes and stamps and, you know, 00:33:59.819 --> 00:34:02.039 so it saves you there because they're just going 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.039 to send it to you electronically and so you just 00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.160 have to send one card, you know, instead of getting 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.460 a card and then sending a card. And then what's 00:34:08.460 --> 00:34:10.500 nice about that is you can print the labels right 00:34:10.500 --> 00:34:12.179 up and just stick them on the card. It's all 00:34:12.179 --> 00:34:19.619 electronic. 812 -638 -4261 and yeah, that's some 00:34:19.619 --> 00:34:22.929 cool stuff. It's nothing. It's free to set up 00:34:22.929 --> 00:34:24.949 so as long as you have a PayPal account they'll 00:34:24.949 --> 00:34:26.769 put that money in your account and then you can 00:34:26.769 --> 00:34:28.429 just write up a card and send it direct instead 00:34:28.429 --> 00:34:31.929 of having him having to mail you a card with 00:34:31.929 --> 00:34:33.909 a return envelope and you know all that stuff 00:34:33.909 --> 00:34:37.050 this is so much quicker so you don't just have 00:34:37.050 --> 00:34:40.489 to use it for DX you can use it yourself and 00:34:40.489 --> 00:34:46.639 then you can also use that as a way to Kind of 00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:48.699 do some analysis and you've been on the show 00:34:48.699 --> 00:34:50.820 talking about analysis a little bit before but 00:34:50.820 --> 00:34:54.179 there's some some cool analysis you can do with 00:34:54.179 --> 00:34:58.320 the with clublog2 and you can Put a little app 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.940 on your QRZ page so you can even see if you know 00:35:01.940 --> 00:35:05.599 if yeah in the log of somebody else Yeah, that's 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.980 nice too. Yeah clublog really has a lot of nice 00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:10.900 tools, but for true log analysis I like to use 00:35:10.900 --> 00:35:15.760 Q scope Q like Quebec Q scope I think I pay $10 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.760 a year, but I throw my logs in there because 00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:20.840 we use a lot of multi -ops and stuff, but I can 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.619 get any stat you can think of. I'm totally into 00:35:23.619 --> 00:35:26.440 stats. I did Saber Metrics for my son's little 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:30.619 league team and getting into all that stuff. 00:35:30.739 --> 00:35:34.400 So I love stats and logs and looking where we 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.260 made the most mistakes and really evaluating. 00:35:38.090 --> 00:35:41.449 and how to get better at contests. And so I utilize 00:35:41.449 --> 00:35:44.329 that one a lot. But I think you can use Qscope 00:35:44.329 --> 00:35:46.170 for free, but you're only allowed to put so many 00:35:46.170 --> 00:35:48.730 logs up at a time. I don't remember what the 00:35:48.730 --> 00:35:50.630 minimum is, but we usually have really big logs. 00:35:50.650 --> 00:35:53.670 So if you're a casual contester, check out Qscope. 00:35:53.670 --> 00:35:57.130 If you only have 100 or 200 logs, I think it's 00:35:57.130 --> 00:35:59.889 250 minimum. I'm not quite sure, but check it 00:35:59.889 --> 00:36:02.369 out. A lot of cool statistics and analysis you 00:36:02.369 --> 00:36:07.969 can do from your contests on Qscope. I tried 00:36:07.969 --> 00:36:11.710 another call there, but I hung up, so we'll try 00:36:11.710 --> 00:36:14.710 it again. And we've got a tweet here from Dr. 00:36:14.829 --> 00:36:19.670 Scott Wright, KZeroMD, mentioning that there's 00:36:19.670 --> 00:36:21.630 a growing interest in having that real -time 00:36:21.630 --> 00:36:24.590 contest scoring and immediate results, and he's 00:36:24.590 --> 00:36:27.769 all behind that, and wants to know if you're 00:36:27.769 --> 00:36:32.780 using N1MM Plus or WinTest. uh... if you're if 00:36:32.780 --> 00:36:34.820 you're using those and and obviously you are 00:36:34.820 --> 00:36:38.219 the n y m m but uh... well yes i've never i've 00:36:38.219 --> 00:36:40.260 never tried wind test i don't think i've ever 00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:42.219 been heard of it but boy i'm gonna go check that 00:36:42.219 --> 00:36:46.940 one out now too and um... i agree with you scott 00:36:46.940 --> 00:36:49.980 i think the way i think the way of the future 00:36:49.980 --> 00:36:53.360 uh... not only with contesting but with the exing 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:55.960 i i think is going to be blockchain technology 00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.960 because if we get logs into a black team technology 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:02.719 will know instantly There will be no log reviews. 00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:05.900 You'll know instantly when that contest is over 00:37:05.900 --> 00:37:10.460 who won, just like an Xbox game. Same thing with 00:37:10.460 --> 00:37:15.400 DXing. It'll be instant. I really think that's 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.619 going to be the wave of the future and maybe 00:37:17.619 --> 00:37:20.699 A, R, L, B behind that or somebody else, but 00:37:20.699 --> 00:37:25.719 I really see that as not too far behind. I'm 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:28.829 going to guess within the next few years. Win, 00:37:28.829 --> 00:37:33.469 win what was it? Win? That was, where'd it go? 00:37:33.989 --> 00:37:37.289 Win test? Win test. Yes, win test. Let me check 00:37:37.289 --> 00:37:42.730 it out here. It says most of the WRTC participants 00:37:42.730 --> 00:37:46.809 used win test. It was very popular among some 00:37:46.809 --> 00:37:51.570 elite contesters. So there's another one. Yeah, 00:37:51.730 --> 00:37:53.369 that's cool. I'm going to check that one out. 00:37:53.550 --> 00:37:56.690 Maybe I'll talk about that in Ham Nation. There 00:37:56.690 --> 00:38:00.619 we go. All right. Well, we've got just a couple 00:38:00.619 --> 00:38:04.420 of minutes left here. So I want to thank you 00:38:04.420 --> 00:38:06.940 for coming on and talking a little bit about 00:38:06.940 --> 00:38:14.239 that and how you can get everything on for those 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:18.519 online confirmations. That's been a real big 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.739 change in ham radio in recent years. doing all 00:38:22.739 --> 00:38:25.480 that and not having to spend so much money on 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.219 all the cards. But there's still something about 00:38:28.219 --> 00:38:33.219 a paper QSL card too. And so now you've got a 00:38:33.219 --> 00:38:37.920 choice of either one. Unless you get 250 of them 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:41.300 in the mail in one crack. It used to be a lot 00:38:41.300 --> 00:38:45.460 more fun. And so that's why I like LOTW a lot 00:38:45.460 --> 00:38:47.400 more now. But yeah, I remember when I first started, 00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.300 man, the cards, it is nice to get the cards, 00:38:49.300 --> 00:38:53.880 especially from the exotic places. Yeah, sure 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:59.000 is. And there's still some pretty funny cards 00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:03.119 out there, too, that keep things entertaining. 00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:07.760 X -rated cards. Oh, no! And I get those, too. 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.760 I think they just assume we're all guys. Oh, 00:39:11.219 --> 00:39:14.760 no. It's interesting cards. I like looking at 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:20.639 the cards. Oh, well. Well, let's see. Yeah, I 00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:25.559 think the last one I got was Let's see, what 00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:29.340 is it sushi? I think there's sushi on this card 00:39:29.340 --> 00:39:32.719 here. I'm looking at one from satellite and and 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:37.519 so you never know I just got, in the last week, 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:39.820 I got four envelopes here that I haven't even 00:39:39.820 --> 00:39:42.539 opened and they're pretty thick. Got my work 00:39:42.539 --> 00:39:44.699 cut out for me this weekend in between the contest. 00:39:44.940 --> 00:39:46.820 For those of you out there, NAQP sideband this 00:39:46.820 --> 00:39:50.340 weekend. Get on the air. Alright, very good. 00:39:51.260 --> 00:39:54.300 Well, thank you so much for coming on. Appreciate 00:39:54.300 --> 00:39:57.039 it and hopefully that will answer some of the 00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.849 questions out there. logging and logbook of the 00:40:00.849 --> 00:40:04.010 world and getting all that going and appreciate 00:40:04.010 --> 00:40:07.289 it and I look forward to talking to you again 00:40:07.289 --> 00:40:10.429 soon. Alright, you too and thanks for having 00:40:10.429 --> 00:40:12.690 me on. And anybody who has any questions on logging 00:40:12.690 --> 00:40:16.190 software, my email is good on Q or Z if you want 00:40:16.190 --> 00:40:18.369 to email me. I'm pretty good at troubleshooting 00:40:18.369 --> 00:40:22.070 it through. I'll try and help you if I can. Alright, 00:40:22.090 --> 00:40:25.489 very good. Well, that is a wrap for this week's 00:40:25.489 --> 00:40:28.860 HamTalk Live. Thanks to my guest Val Hotsfield 00:40:28.860 --> 00:40:31.340 in V9L and everybody out there in cyberspace 00:40:31.340 --> 00:40:34.219 for listening and calling in and invite you all 00:40:34.219 --> 00:40:37.019 back next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time 00:40:37.019 --> 00:40:40.920 when Ward Silver in Zero AX will be here and 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:44.280 we're gonna talk about what's up with please 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:48.280 copy Yeah, we're gonna talk about that and and 00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:52.679 some of those other things that we say and and 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:56.500 maybe we you know We need to think about whether 00:40:56.500 --> 00:40:59.480 or not that's a good thing, depending on the 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.400 circumstance. So we're going to talk about that 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.840 and kind of what the controversy is there with 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.920 that. And for all of our upcoming guests, you 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.420 can go to HamTalkLive .com. And one last announcement. 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.760 Hammy is coming to Huntsville. We kind of did 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.000 a last -minute thing and Hammy is going to be 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.960 around for an hour or so down in Huntsville. 00:41:22.019 --> 00:41:24.199 So if you get to Huntsville, you can get your 00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.190 picture taken with Hammy. wandering around there. 00:41:27.849 --> 00:41:30.650 So hope to see you down there. And if you're 00:41:30.650 --> 00:41:34.489 not there and you're not in the Kansas Convention, 00:41:34.510 --> 00:41:38.809 maybe, you know, in AQP sideband, you know, that 00:41:38.809 --> 00:41:42.329 sounds like a good thing, too. So Val will be 00:41:42.329 --> 00:41:49.969 there. And if you want to Leave us a review for 00:41:49.969 --> 00:41:52.809 HamTalk Live on iTunes. That will help others 00:41:52.809 --> 00:41:56.130 find us, so we'd appreciate that as well. And 00:41:56.130 --> 00:41:58.130 that's going to finish things up for tonight. 00:41:58.730 --> 00:42:04.150 So this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7375, and 00:42:04.150 --> 00:42:46.768 may the good DX be yours. 🎵🎵🎵 Thank you.