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tuning in to this episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight
we're joined by Val Hotsfeld, NV9L, who will
be comparing some options for logging. And we'll
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we have Val in V9L, originally from Wisconsin,
now resides in Illinois. She is a co -host on
the video podcast Ham Nation on the Twitch network,
which, um, that's where she usually contributes
information about DXing and contesting. Val is
one of the most noted YLs in the hobby and spends
most of her weekends on the air working contests,
along with her husband, Jerry WB9Z. And she's
a member of many DX and contesting clubs and
ARRL volunteer examiner. And she is the 2017
Dayton Hamvention amateur of the year. So Val,
thanks for coming back on the show. Thanks for
having me, Neil. Appreciate it. This is one subject
that's near and dear to my heart. I actually,
even though I have a bachelor's degree in accounting,
I minored in computer science. So Jerry always
does the hardware and I always do. software and
all, anything to do software related, this is
my thing. So thanks for having me on to do this.
Well, you were the first person I thought of.
I had some questions come in about logging and
how to get going on things and I referred them
to some of your YouTube videos and thought, you
know, we probably ought to do a... a call -in
show on logging. So I wanted to have you come
on and do that. But before we get started, I
know you wanted to throw a plug in here for the
Society of Midwest Contesters. Yeah, for any
of those of you out there just getting started,
getting your feet wet in contesting and want
to learn more, we're having our SMC Fest, not
this weekend but the following weekend. If you're
interested in going, you can learn more if you
just go to W9SMC .com. And it's a great event
all day long, great topics to make you a better
contester, and it's a lot of fun, a lot of camaraderie.
And we have some good prizes. I'm prize chairman
for that, so we're up to about $3 ,000 worth
of prizes just for that event. So definitely
check that out if interested. And it's in Bloomington,
Illinois. Or actually, normal. Normal. Bloomington
normal. And it's Illinois, not Indiana. We get
that confused all the time. I'm in Bloomington,
Indiana, and they're in Bloomington, Illinois.
It's like, wait a minute, hold it. So yeah, Bloomington,
Illinois, and sounds like some some good prizes
there. So you might win something if you go.
So everyone gets a prize. Yeah, everybody gets
a prize. Everybody goes. So sounds like a good
time. Well, let's get into talking about logging
and the original reason for doing this is some
people said, Hey, I want to, you know, get beyond
just my paper log and my own computer log, because
people need the log book of the world credit.
And I'm not giving that to them because I'm not
signed up with Logbook of the World and I don't
know how to go about doing that and I don't know
how to get all this interfaced so that I can
do that. So I'm just going to turn you loose
here and talk about some different logging programs.
You've tried a ton of them and talk about how
those interface to Logbook of the World. Yeah,
well about three years ago, I did a big series
on different logging softwares And I included
also how to set up install and use LOTW Which
was a three -part series, so I did play with
a lot of different software But it all depends
on what you're gonna use it for that's it's basically
it I mean, I'm an avid contester and for contesting
there's You know n1 mm plus is a really big one
and I use that pretty much exclusively But there's
some other good ones out there as well. I think
it's m3 fjp software They have good software
for for a lot of people use that as well But
I really don't have a lot of experience with
that, but I checked it out looks fine and dandy
I just liked all the bells and whistles that
come with n1 mm logger plus and it you know It's
free. They update it regularly. They respond
to your questions very quickly. And it's pretty
user -friendly. There's all kinds of tips and
tricks that you learn as you go. But you can
have it fully installed and have your radio interfaced
and be up and rolling in less than an hour with
N1MM Longer Plus. So that one's a pretty good
one if you're going to be doing any contesting.
Not really good for If you want to track and
you're DXing and you want to track if you sent
out QSL cards or got them back or different awards
you're chasing, because there's nowhere to put,
you know, if you've sent QSL out and received
QSL back, things like that. And so for actual
DXing logging software, the two big ones are
Ham Radio Deluxe, and that's a one -time $100
fee. And it's like a Cadillac. It's the Cadillac,
I think, of the logging software. And it's only
$100, and that's not a yearly thing. It's just
a one -time thing. You can also sign up for annual
support if you are not real computer savvy. But
it's so easy and easy to install and easy to
use and user -friendly. You may not need it.
Maybe get it the first year just to see if you'll
use it. But I don't think you'll need it. It's
a really nice software. And it interfaces with
your radio as well. But if you're more computer
savvy, you can use what I use for my logging
software, and that's DX Lab Suite. They have
a bunch of different modules you can put on.
So if you want to keep just your DX log, the
DX keeper, they have spotting. When you set it
up and it mixes with your log, you can set it
up to... notify you on your computer when there's
a new country that you need on a band that you
need on a mode you need so It's got a lot of
cool bells and whistles like that in different
modules if you use a lot of you know, you can
install or not install whichever you want based
on what you're going to utilize but and then
So those are the three main ones I would say
and then of course you do need to have LOTW like
you were saying Neil and It's kind of confusing,
and it's a lot of hoops to jump through to get
it and sign up for your postcard, get your postcard,
and what to do. But I do walk you through it
step by step in my three part series too on my
YouTube video. I also walk you through DX Lab
Suite. I walk you through AM Radio Deluxe. If
you want to go to Valerie Housfeld on YouTube,
you can find a lot of my... Videos how to upload
call history files for contesting how you know
a lot of computer things Software things are
on on my YouTube video. So Let's talk a little
bit about Going back and forth between these
and and I was kind of glad to know as we were
talking this week about You know what what you
do and it seems pretty similar to what I do and
so that made me feel good That you know I use
a contest logger, you know, for School Club Roundup,
and it's a special one made just for that, but
then if we work other contests, again, I like
the N1MM+. And then I take that file and move
that over into the DX Lab Suite so that we keep
our master database there of all of our contacts,
whether it's contesting, DXing, whatever. and
it has all of the options and all the different
weird exports and you know it does all of that
it's not the friendliest piece of software but
it does everything and so we keep our main database
in that and we can go in and check off our cards
and and run reports and and and move everything
around I run the reports on who I sent cards
to and who's late on getting me a card back,
you know. It's got a lot of stuff like that,
which you'll need once you start trying to get
banned countries in a lot of countries, so yeah,
I do that as well. Yeah, and then you just upload
it to, you know, we love to load a QRZ because
we've got a few people that are on there and
that lets us have web access so the kids can
log in and see that. from anywhere and Logbook
of the World and EQSL and Club Log and do all
of that. You can set that up where it automatically
does that for you. It's nice. I have mine set
up to go to LOTW automatically and Club Log automatically.
I used to have it set up to go to EQSL, but it
really didn't get a lot of people needing it
for EQSL, so I kind of let that one go. So that's
nice. And the key here to software, any of these
logging softwares, is being able to have them
export an ADIF file because that's what you need.
All of these software, you know, all these places,
they want you to import ADIF files so that when
you're looking at a software, you want to make
sure that's the file type that they use. And
you can comment on this. I've got this idea at
least that If you're more of a casual operator,
and you're not doing satellites and some of the
other things, and like you said, the contesting
and all, the QRZ .com web -based logbook is a
pretty good deal, and interfacing that to Logbook
of the World once you get it set up is really
easy. uh... and so a lot of times i will actually
who run the logbook of the world export right
out of it and you don't yours that is a really
good yeah i'm in there too i i mean i export
or send them to all a bunch of different places
cuz so many people use so many different things
i just when i'm done With a contest I'll put
them in all of them or once a month I'll do a
major export and just throw them in all of them
or I have the ones I don't have set up automatically
but and what's nice about the QRZ one they have
a great little leaderboard Right you guys do
you follow your leaderboard? Yeah, they have
a little leaderboard there and yeah, I'm number
38 on most confirmed queues my goal is to get
in that 15 There you go. It's always fun for
those of you who are competitive. Yeah. With
that leaderboard when you put those logs up there.
Yeah. And they have the little, you know, their
awards and you see, you know, you've got it recently
and occasionally I'll see a call sign I know
and it's like, oh, hey, they got, you know, they
got this or that. Um, it works out pretty well,
but one of the things I found out is I've kind
of gotten into satellites more in the last year
is that it just didn't handle it. And I tried
to get some, some help on it. And it just, it
couldn't handle being in two grids at the same
time. Uh, that just did not work at all. And
finally, I just went to the TQSL that comes with
LOTW. and for satellite contacts and just started
inputting everything there and uploading the
satellite stuff there. So there's a lot of stuff
going on to make all of this work. Also, if you
do FT8... You know, I take that log, export it
and then import it into my, you know, my DX lab
suite too. So there's another log place that
keeps your logs for you as well. That one does
it automatically for you FT8 guys. But yeah,
that's good that you use that LOTW one. Cause
when I first got my, when I didn't know which
software to use when I first got in the hobby,
that's what I used. I used the LOTW log entry.
And then I realized how limiting it was, but
I did notice that you can do like a cross -band
thing on there, you know, so yeah. Yeah, to get
the multiple locations and the grid squares and,
you know, multiple grid squares and that kind
of thing. You just about have to go with that
one because it just, the other log books just
don't really focus on that. So let's talk, and
again, we can refer people to your YouTube channel
to get the exact walkthrough, but just kind of
give us, you know, not necessarily step -by -step,
but kind of lead us through the process of, okay,
I've got this logbook set up, how am I gonna
get this stuff to go up to Logbook of the World?
To set up logbook of the world. Yeah To get the
account set up and get everything going, you
know into it from the software that you may have
Well, yeah, you have to go in and register online
first and get on there And then there's a download
that you can do and then it'll request that they
send you a card I mean it's been a while since
I've even watched this video. I you know, I did
this series, you know But then you get a postcard
in the mail with a key on it, I believe. And
then at that point, you can enter that key and
set up everything on your system. And you get
a TQSL, which is a trusted QSL. So now that computer
and only that computer is where your trusted
QSL. So make sure you put that on the same computer
where you keep your logs. It's much more convenient
than trying to email it from one computer to
another. then you can get it all set up and then
you have to take your logs into, they have like
a little menu that you bring up and then you
want to sign a log and so you want to set up
your locations, you know, I remember that you
can set up your locations and when I first set
this up I was doing... making contacts down here
at Jerry's station on weekends, but then I'd
go home and make contacts up there. So I'd have
two locations, because you're in two different
grid squares, things like that. And some of you
guys who are doing the grid chase, you can set
up multiple locations on LOTW. So then when you
bring your logs in, if you know it's all from
the same location, you pick that location. But,
you know, I go through all of that in my video.
It's kind of hard to do all that over the phone,
but it's... When you first look at it, it just
seems a little overwhelming. But if you follow
some step -by -step, guys, I think even the AWRL
has videos on how -to as well. It's really not
that hard. It's just a lot of hoops to jump through,
basically. Once you're rockin' and rollin' and
you got it all automated, it's nothing. Yeah,
once you get the setup, it's pretty easy. Well,
before we take a break here, I know already I've
heard Don't forget the Mac, people. So what's
going on on the Mac? You know, I kind of talked
about this when I was doing my series on logging
software, but I couldn't demo it because I don't
have a Mac. We have seven computers here, not
one is a Mac. But I did kind of hunt around and
look at different software from then, but a great
resource for you Mac people is machamradio .com.
And they have all kinds of different software
that's Mac, that works with Mac. I know Rumlog
NG, November Golf, Rumlog November Golf. That
one's free. A lot of people, it seemed, I just
looked at reviews and kind of looked a little
bit at screenshots and it looks fine and it's
free. And then there's MacLogger DX, which is
$95. So I bet those two compared to, you know,
Rumlog would probably compare to the DX Lab Suite
versus MacLogger DX, which would compare to the
Ham Radio Deluxe, you know, so. Usually the ones
you have to pay for are a lot easier to use.
I can't guarantee that because I haven't tested
it out. But machamradio .com, really good resource
for any of you guys out there wanting to look
at it. And it's not just for logging software,
there's all kinds of software out there for you,
for your Mac that has to do with Ham Radio. Alright,
very good. And again, remind us where we can
watch all of these videos on how to set up Logbook
of the World and how to set up the the DX lab
and N1MM. Yeah, well if you go, I have a YouTube
channel where I post a lot of the videos that
I've done for Hamnation and that's called, it's
just Valerie Hatzfeld. But even if you just Google
LOTW part one or like N1MM plus, make sure you
watch that one. I did an old one called N1MM,
but now there's N1MM plus. Google Ham Radio Deluxe.
My video will probably show up there as well
in DX Lab Suite. I mean, I named them what they
are, so they're easy to find, but Valerie Hatzfeldt,
and that's Hotel Oscar Tango Zulu, Foxtrot Echo
Lima Delta, Hatzfeldt, Valerie Hatzfeldt, and
all kinds of stuff. And there's all kinds of
other things to learn about, little tricks. I
have different ones on just little tricks in
N1MM, how to do call history files, all kinds
of other how -to's. Alright, well we're going
to come back and we'll talk more logging with
Val and take your calls live so if you have a
question you can give us a call at 812 -638 -
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Val. Let's talk about interfacing a little bit
and and trying to get the rig to Tell you what
frequency you're on and all that kind of thing
and get it into your log Yeah, I remember when
I first started contesting. I put it uploaded
M1MM for the first time and everyone says, you
got to get it to interface with your radio. That's
a game changer. And my jaw dropped when I did
that. It's wonderful. Most of these software
will all interface with your radio. It's the
way pretty much every one of them does it that's
out there now. And when you go in, you just can
go into your configuration and you just pick,
they have a dropdown, they have pretty much every
radio ever made in that dropdown and you pick
it and it knows. you know, how many parity and
bits and all that stuff. It puts that all in
for you and it interfaces with your radio. You
need to have a CIV cable, you know, that's gonna
go between the back of your radio and your computer.
But other than that, I mean, it's wonderful.
You can put a band map up there. So say you're
on 20 meters, it just shows the 20 meters. And
you just click. You can click with your mouse
on a frequency and your radio goes to it. It's
really nice. Your radio interfaces with your
computer and you don't even have to touch any
buttons on your radio. You can get a lot of your
controls right there off your computer, so it's
really nice. So 812 -638 -4261 is the telephone
number. If you have a logging question, give
us a call. While we're waiting on that, too,
while we're waiting for someone to call, too,
another thing with a lot of these contesting
softwares, I know, like WriteLog and N1MM +,
they have the LiveScore server interfaces built
into them. So you can just go into, under the
Configure, there's a place called LiveScore server,
something like that. the drop -down menu, pick
the live score server, and you go to that live
score server beforehand, you just have to register,
put in your call sign, come up with a password,
and then in your config tab for the live score
server, you just put in your login and password
there, and any contest you're in that they support,
your scores are automatically in the background
every three minutes or five minutes or whatever
you pick, reporting your scores to this live
score server. So when you're in a contest, you
know live while you're in the middle of a contest,
how you're doing compared to everybody else that's
using score server. So it really makes it a much
more now, you know, instant horse race, whereas
normally with contesting, you do the contest,
you submit your logs. People kind of look at
3830 .com to see how they do compared to everybody,
but it's not a clean log. It's a raw score, so
you might wait six months to know how you did.
Whereas this one, you know, it's instant. You
know, oh no, I'm behind 500 QSOS from this guy.
You know, I better get to work or, you know,
so that's kind of fun. That's a cool thing that's
in the contesting software. All right, 812 -638
-4261 is the phone number to call or you can
tweet us. or give us a call on Skype and we can
take your questions here. Let's talk about the
FL digi, WSJT, all those different digital modes
and you were talking about the ADIF file that
comes out of there and pulling that into the
DX suite. Yeah, that's what I do because whenever
you go into In the WSJT, whenever everybody on
FT8, it just automatically, you know, when you're
done with the queue, so it says, do you want
to log it? Yes. And then every now and then,
I just, every week or two, I'll export that ADIF
and bring it into DX Lab Suite. So yeah, like
you said, as long as everything's an ADIF file.
You can move it around from logging software
to logging software to logging software. So you
can have multiple ones going on like Neil and
I do. Our DX Lab Suite is our master log. But
for different contests, we'll use a contest logging
software. For FTA, we use a different software.
Yeah, it's it's and and then like you said it's
not uncommon for us to put it in a bunch of places
because Everybody wants you know if you put it
all on LOTW you're gonna get the people emailing
you a please put it on QRZ, you know, and so
Also, I do club log. That's kind of nice to put
your logs up on club log to getting off the SJT
subject, but They have OQRS on Club Log. Do you
use that, Neil? Yeah, I just requested my Baker
Island cards that way and you were reading my
mind because that's exactly where I was headed.
Let's talk about Club Log. Yeah, because you
can do it not just to request cards you need
from countries you need, but people who want
to get your cards. And so I have OQRS set up
for me. So people can request cards from me,
I have the option, they pay $2 and I'll send
a card direct, or they do the free one and I
send it through the Bureau and it just saves
me getting all those cards in through the Bureau.
I used to get huge stacks of envelopes, now my
envelopes have probably cut back to about 80
% of what I used to get and they cost us, you
know, for those of you out there who have to
send money to your... card guy at your, you know,
in your area that does your cards, you know,
and those envelopes and stamps and, you know,
so it saves you there because they're just going
to send it to you electronically and so you just
have to send one card, you know, instead of getting
a card and then sending a card. And then what's
nice about that is you can print the labels right
up and just stick them on the card. It's all
electronic. 812 -638 -4261 and yeah, that's some
cool stuff. It's nothing. It's free to set up
so as long as you have a PayPal account they'll
put that money in your account and then you can
just write up a card and send it direct instead
of having him having to mail you a card with
a return envelope and you know all that stuff
this is so much quicker so you don't just have
to use it for DX you can use it yourself and
then you can also use that as a way to Kind of
do some analysis and you've been on the show
talking about analysis a little bit before but
there's some some cool analysis you can do with
the with clublog2 and you can Put a little app
on your QRZ page so you can even see if you know
if yeah in the log of somebody else Yeah, that's
nice too. Yeah clublog really has a lot of nice
tools, but for true log analysis I like to use
Q scope Q like Quebec Q scope I think I pay $10
a year, but I throw my logs in there because
we use a lot of multi -ops and stuff, but I can
get any stat you can think of. I'm totally into
stats. I did Saber Metrics for my son's little
league team and getting into all that stuff.
So I love stats and logs and looking where we
made the most mistakes and really evaluating.
and how to get better at contests. And so I utilize
that one a lot. But I think you can use Qscope
for free, but you're only allowed to put so many
logs up at a time. I don't remember what the
minimum is, but we usually have really big logs.
So if you're a casual contester, check out Qscope.
If you only have 100 or 200 logs, I think it's
250 minimum. I'm not quite sure, but check it
out. A lot of cool statistics and analysis you
can do from your contests on Qscope. I tried
another call there, but I hung up, so we'll try
it again. And we've got a tweet here from Dr.
Scott Wright, KZeroMD, mentioning that there's
a growing interest in having that real -time
contest scoring and immediate results, and he's
all behind that, and wants to know if you're
using N1MM Plus or WinTest. uh... if you're if
you're using those and and obviously you are
the n y m m but uh... well yes i've never i've
never tried wind test i don't think i've ever
been heard of it but boy i'm gonna go check that
one out now too and um... i agree with you scott
i think the way i think the way of the future
uh... not only with contesting but with the exing
i i think is going to be blockchain technology
because if we get logs into a black team technology
will know instantly There will be no log reviews.
You'll know instantly when that contest is over
who won, just like an Xbox game. Same thing with
DXing. It'll be instant. I really think that's
going to be the wave of the future and maybe
A, R, L, B behind that or somebody else, but
I really see that as not too far behind. I'm
going to guess within the next few years. Win,
win what was it? Win? That was, where'd it go?
Win test? Win test. Yes, win test. Let me check
it out here. It says most of the WRTC participants
used win test. It was very popular among some
elite contesters. So there's another one. Yeah,
that's cool. I'm going to check that one out.
Maybe I'll talk about that in Ham Nation. There
we go. All right. Well, we've got just a couple
of minutes left here. So I want to thank you
for coming on and talking a little bit about
that and how you can get everything on for those
online confirmations. That's been a real big
change in ham radio in recent years. doing all
that and not having to spend so much money on
all the cards. But there's still something about
a paper QSL card too. And so now you've got a
choice of either one. Unless you get 250 of them
in the mail in one crack. It used to be a lot
more fun. And so that's why I like LOTW a lot
more now. But yeah, I remember when I first started,
man, the cards, it is nice to get the cards,
especially from the exotic places. Yeah, sure
is. And there's still some pretty funny cards
out there, too, that keep things entertaining.
X -rated cards. Oh, no! And I get those, too.
I think they just assume we're all guys. Oh,
no. It's interesting cards. I like looking at
the cards. Oh, well. Well, let's see. Yeah, I
think the last one I got was Let's see, what
is it sushi? I think there's sushi on this card
here. I'm looking at one from satellite and and
so you never know I just got, in the last week,
I got four envelopes here that I haven't even
opened and they're pretty thick. Got my work
cut out for me this weekend in between the contest.
For those of you out there, NAQP sideband this
weekend. Get on the air. Alright, very good.
Well, thank you so much for coming on. Appreciate
it and hopefully that will answer some of the
questions out there. logging and logbook of the
world and getting all that going and appreciate
it and I look forward to talking to you again
soon. Alright, you too and thanks for having
me on. And anybody who has any questions on logging
software, my email is good on Q or Z if you want
to email me. I'm pretty good at troubleshooting
it through. I'll try and help you if I can. Alright,
very good. Well, that is a wrap for this week's
HamTalk Live. Thanks to my guest Val Hotsfield
in V9L and everybody out there in cyberspace
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