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Good evening, everyone. It's time for HamTalk

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Live. It's episode number 132. The U .S. Coast

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Guard Cutter Courier exhibit at the Voice of

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America Museum of Broadcasting recorded live

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on Thursday, September 13th, 2018. I'm your host,

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Neil Rapp, WB9 VPG. Thanks for tuning in to another

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episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight we're joined

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by Lee Hite, K8CLI from the National Voice of

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America Museum of Broadcasting in Westchester,

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Ohio. And we'll take your calls live in just

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a few minutes. Last week here on the show, Andy

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Malusi, KK4LWR, was here to talk about the Collegiate

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QSO Party that's coming up this weekend. So if

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you missed that, you can listen anytime at HamTalkLive

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on YouTube. And get your questions ready to go.

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We're going to talk about the Voice of America

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Museum and how a ship ties into some of the things

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that the Voice of America was doing and a little

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bit of a ham radio connection. So we'll talk

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about that. After the interview, you can give

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us a call. I'll go ahead and give you the phone

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number so you can write that down and have that

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ready to go. The phone number is 812 -NET -HAM

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-1. That's 812 -638 -4261. Or you can call us

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on Skype if you like. We're HamTalk Live on Skype.

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And if you'd rather not call, you can tweet us

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at HamTalk Live on Twitter. And a couple of announcements

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we'll throw in here. First of all, if you haven't

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heard about Flow, Hurricane Florence, the Hurricane

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Watch Net and the VoIP Hurricane Net and the

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Saturn Relief Nets are all... up and going. So

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make sure you watch out for their frequencies

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as usual in hurricane season. So please try to

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stay clear of them on the air as they work to

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try to help people out and you can listen in

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on that as well. And as a part of that I just

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saw release W1AW is going to actually be off

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the air on Friday. They've suspended their bulletins

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because of that. So just a heads up that W1AW

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bulletins and practice and that kind of thing

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won't be on on Friday. Also we had a request

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to do some t -shirts for the show and With a

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satellite theme now on the back. We have a couple

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of slogans. We do the the takeoff of Les Nessman

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from WKRP who always signed off may the good

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news be yours and we did may the good DX be yours,

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but We've also done a couple of other slogans

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on the back and and there was a request that

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we do some satellite slogans so we actually tossed

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some around on Twitter and I think we've got

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one picked up but I don't have everything quite

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ready to go just yet, but if you're interested

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in getting one of those, be aware that I'll have

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a form online that you can fill out and sign

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up for buying one of those soon. So watch the

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social media outlets. and we'll post the information

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on those shirts here in the next week or two

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on how you can order those. And we're going to

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do a limited edition order of that one. So if

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you're interested in that, make sure you're,

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you're watching for that and we'll talk about

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it a little bit next week, I'm sure. But I'll

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Coast Guard Cutter Courier exhibit right after

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tonight we have Lee Hite, K8 CLI with us. He's

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one of the lead docents at the National Voice

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of America Museum of Broadcasting in Westchester,

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Ohio. Lee is a retired electronics engineer with

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a passion for investigating technical issues.

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occasionally surrounded with some mystery and

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often bridging several fields of technology.

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He was licensed in 1954 and is active with the

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Mason, Ohio and Warren County CERT teams. He

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also engineers wind chimes and biomass bricks.

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So he does it all. Lee, welcome to HamTalk Live.

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Well, thank you, Neil. Very happy to be here

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and thanks for the invitation. We appreciate

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it. Well, I always enjoy seeing you and the people

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over at the Voice of America Museum whenever

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I can and try to help out as I can over there.

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I'm back at work again and it's been a little

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while and Gary tells me there's all kinds of

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things that have changed already since I was

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last there about seven or eight weeks ago. So

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we may have to talk about that a little bit,

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but one of the things that has changed is this

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new exhibit. At the museum on the USC GC courier.

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So Tell us the story about this boat and how

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it's connected to the history of the voice of

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America Okay. Yeah, it's it's quite a fascinating

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story I've got a little background here to give

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you as we lead into this but as we all know World

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War two ended in 1945 and it wasn't but just

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a few years later around 1947 that we defined

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this 45 -year period called the Cold War. And

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the U .S. government was doing a number of things

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to try to provide a defense for threats from

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the Cold War. They commissioned the development

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of a nuclear airplane, a nuclear -powered airplane,

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the ICBMs and the Polaris submarines. Two of

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those, of course, turned out to be very successful.

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Well, in addition to that, that's all hardware

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based. They decided that the Word is a very powerful

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weapon and while the VOA had been on the air

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since 1942, they continued on the air after the

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end of the war and became a very important tool

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during the Cold War. During that period, they

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transmitted into Russia, they transmitted to

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a lot of parts of the world. but certainly Russia

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was top of the list. VOA had three facilities,

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one in Delano, California, and us here in Bethany,

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Ohio, and Greenville, North Carolina, and all

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three facilities broadcast into Russia. The basic

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message, tell the truth and let the world decide,

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and was just trying to get our view of things

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broadcast into Russia. So that went on for a

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while, and by early 50s, 58 -51, Russia was catching

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on to the fact that we were a pretty prominent

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force in the radio world in Russia, and they

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began jamming, well they had been jamming all

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along, but they got stronger transmitters, bigger

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signals, and was jamming the BOA signals coming

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out of the United States. We all practiced a

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technique called cuddling, which is we will,

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the VOA would come up beside an existing frequency

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that the Soviets were using and broadcast. And

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that was done deliberately so that when they

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tried to jam the VOA signal, they would inadvertently

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jam their own signal. It was a very broadband.

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Acoustic generator sounded like a coffee grinder

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going off, but it would splatter all over the

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band So that worked for a while, but eventually

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they got stronger and stronger transmitters and

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The government decided we needed to do something

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about it Harry Truman was running for president

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and had Proposed a what was called a ring of

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truth Around Russia. He wanted to put 14 Transmitting

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sites circling Russia each site at a 1 million

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watt capacity So here we would have 14 1 million

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watt transmitters around Russia and that Congress

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thought it was a good idea and actually funded

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the beginning of it. They funded some 42 million

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dollars to get started But unfortunately after

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the election, Congress had second thoughts and

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they cut back to only one station and that turned

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out to be the U .S. Coast Guard Cutter Courier.

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They had other stations in England and Greece

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that were transmitting into Russia. They would

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pick up the signal out of the United States,

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and they were called relay stations, and they

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would then retransmit into Russia. But we needed

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to get a very strong signal into Russia. And

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so what they decided to do was to build a very

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powerful floating broadcast station. And they

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looked around to do it. This was not the first

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time the VOA had used a floating broadcast station.

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this was going to be the most powerful and did

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not want guns or ammunition or a threat involved

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so normally they would look to the Navy to do

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this but in this case they looked to the Coast

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Guard because they were non -comfrontational

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and so they commissioned a ship with the Coast

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Guard it was actually a ship built for the Navy

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that was never used and was commissioned in 1952

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and contained, actually contained four transmitters.

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They had one large transmitter that was what

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we call medium wave or the AM broadcast band.

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It was 150 kilowatt transmitter. And then they

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had two 35 kilowatt short wave transmitters.

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And then a smaller Collins unit, three kilowatt

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that they use for ship to shore. And so that

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then was deployed. They were stationed off an

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island of Greece called Rhodes. It's way down

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in the key of islands off from Greece. It's very

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close to Turkey, about just 10, 11 miles southwest

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of Turkey. And we're stationed off that island.

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And so they were there for 12 years broadcasting

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and had a phenomenal success during that process.

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Well, that's what you call going mobile with

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kilowatts of power. That's going mobile for sure.

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And, uh, you know, we'd talk about, uh, you know,

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relays, uh, you know, well, we need a relay to

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check into this net. Well, that that's a relay

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now. That's some powerful, powerful signals out

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of that schmoke. The VOA in general used a lot

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of relays. We here in Bethany, as was Delano,

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California and Greenville, North Carolina, we

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were called relay stations because all the program

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material eventually came out of Washington, D

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.C. It started in New York and then moved to

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Washington, D .C. BOA is still on the air today

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and still producing program material. And now

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it's broadcast over the internet, satellite,

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and cellular, and that kind of thing. But we

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all were relay stations. And in our case, we

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would pick it up from Worceton, DC, and then

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broadcast it. And it would either go directly,

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like into South America or Africa, or be picked

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up by one of our relay stations over there and

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retransmitted. Yeah, now one of the things that

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I always found interesting when I first discovered

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the museum and started making trips over there

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and learning more about this was that you know

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with all those transmitters and everything there

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was not a microphone in the place and like you

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said it was it was all relay because You didn't

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want to take a chance of somebody taking over

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the station Yes, absolutely we had guards here

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at Bethany, but it was not so much a fear of

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breaking in because we did not have microphones,

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it's more because of the re -enter rhombic antennas

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that were used were highly secret. The only ones

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in the world, they were able to take a normal

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rhombic and while you will normally waste 50

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% of the power at the tail end, the opposite

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end of the feed line, they... Took that power

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and phased it and took it back to the input and

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they had the rhombic running at 98 % efficiency

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It was like a quarter million watts in and we

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got 1 .1 million watts of actual RF output out

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of the thing. So it was For that reason they

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guarded the property quite carefully, but it

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was never for a microphone Well, that's setting

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up, you know getting the courier off and running

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and We found a little bit of maybe a ham radio

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direct connection We'll talk about it or still

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not real clear on everything yet, but as The

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preparations were going for the courier they

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wanted to do a test run and I found the call

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sign that they were doing for the test run. So

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tell us about that. Well, that is terribly interesting,

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Neil. And before I directly answer that question,

00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:18.619
I think the answer will have a lot more meaning

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if I tell another situation that happened. As

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I mentioned earlier, the courier was not the

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first floating broadcast station. Actually, the

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first floating station for the VOA. was the USS

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Texas. And they were deployed, as I recall, in

00:19:41.869 --> 00:19:47.630
the Mediterranean, I think, to get VOA's message

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into Nazi Germany. And they only had a very small

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transmitter. It was like five kilowatt transmitter.

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But they were deployed quickly, I think November

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1942. And the situation is why the courier needed

00:20:07.849 --> 00:20:10.690
to do testing. What actually happened was they

00:20:10.690 --> 00:20:14.910
never tested the USS Texas transmitters. They

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were installed, tuned up into a dummy load, and

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yeah, they worked okay. And off they went, and

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they sailed into the Mediterranean. Well, their

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first assignment... Was to bomb some targets

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on shore, so they moved up close to shore and

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fired two a terror artillery shells both of them

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hit their target Unfortunately the recoil from

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those two firings completely destroyed the transmitter

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so they were they were only on the air for eight

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hours and That completely ended their life as

00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:55.529
a broadcast station So what does that have to

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do with the courier? Well Lessons learned you

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might say they when they deployed the courier

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they put the courier on a six -week shakedown

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Normal for the Navy no normal for the Coast Guard

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to go out and shake down a new ship and They

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when they were first deployed they were deployed

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under the call sign Vagabond able and that was

00:21:20.250 --> 00:21:23.500
their airway call sign And then eventually when

00:21:23.500 --> 00:21:25.519
they were on station in Rhodes, Greece, they

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had another call sign. But during the testing

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phase, they used this amateur radio call sign.

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And while I do not know the exact reason, all

00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:40.059
my research, it looks like they were very fastidious

00:21:40.059 --> 00:21:44.299
about being careful of not being confrontational.

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And I think during this entire testing phase,

00:21:47.569 --> 00:21:49.990
they wanted to have just a very generic call

00:21:49.990 --> 00:21:52.730
sign. Amateur radio was non -convertational,

00:21:52.910 --> 00:21:56.170
very generic. And so I suspect that that amateur

00:21:56.170 --> 00:21:58.390
radio call sign was used for that reason. But

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they put anchor in Panama for about 10 days.

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And people all over the world could listen to

00:22:05.769 --> 00:22:08.410
them, particularly in North America, particularly

00:22:08.410 --> 00:22:11.269
the United States and Canada. They had a QSL

00:22:11.269 --> 00:22:15.250
bureau. down there that you could write in and

00:22:15.250 --> 00:22:17.029
give your signal report. They very much wanted

00:22:17.029 --> 00:22:20.269
to know the signal report. And they would QSL

00:22:20.269 --> 00:22:24.150
back. And that was a very successful operation.

00:22:24.289 --> 00:22:27.369
And then they moved on to other ports of anchor.

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sure why the call side and if that works or not,

00:22:37.009 --> 00:22:42.529
but we found KU2XAJ as the the call sign that

00:22:42.529 --> 00:22:45.670
they were using for that and so But they were

00:22:45.670 --> 00:22:48.549
in broadcast, you know shortwave broadcast frequencies.

00:22:49.190 --> 00:22:53.450
So We don't know the whole story here yet. Maybe

00:22:53.450 --> 00:22:55.970
maybe maybe somebody listening will know the

00:22:55.970 --> 00:22:58.900
rest of the story, but And we'll turn it into

00:22:58.900 --> 00:23:04.700
a Paul Harvey show. But yeah, it'd be kind of

00:23:04.700 --> 00:23:07.339
interesting to find out there. But that was the

00:23:07.339 --> 00:23:11.819
call sign, KU2XAJ, that they were using apparently

00:23:11.819 --> 00:23:16.099
with the shakedown mode down in the canal zone.

00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:22.160
Yep. And after they quit the testing phase and

00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.720
used the KU2XAJ call sign, once they were deployed,

00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:31.200
on the off the island of Rhodes, they've used

00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:34.900
the operational call sign, the NFKW, November

00:23:34.900 --> 00:23:37.559
Foxtrot kilowatt whiskey. And that was their

00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:40.039
operational call sign. And so I would think they

00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:42.440
wanted to be careful not to use their operational

00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:46.220
call sign. But like you say, we I still don't

00:23:46.220 --> 00:23:49.160
know how that came about. I never found a copy

00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:51.599
of their license. And I'm not sure they were

00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:54.180
had to have a license be in the government. But

00:23:54.180 --> 00:23:57.460
I still don't know the answer to that. Yeah,

00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:01.240
it was interesting just happened to run across

00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:05.839
that as a preparing for the show so We looked

00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:08.519
into it a little bit and Lee's looked quite a

00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:12.079
bit into it. So we appreciate that Well, let's

00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:14.000
we've got a couple of minutes here before we

00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.700
need to take a break. But let's talk a little

00:24:16.700 --> 00:24:20.690
bit about the museum at or the exhibit at the

00:24:20.690 --> 00:24:23.910
museum. How did that come about and tell us a

00:24:23.910 --> 00:24:27.309
little bit about what you can expect to see if

00:24:27.309 --> 00:24:31.009
you make a visit there while the exhibits in

00:24:31.009 --> 00:24:36.089
the museum? Yes, we were very honored to have

00:24:36.089 --> 00:24:39.150
the traveling exhibit from the USS Coast Guard

00:24:39.150 --> 00:24:45.150
Cutter Courier visit us last year. They provided

00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:52.430
13 large, they're about 32 inches by 40 inches,

00:24:52.630 --> 00:24:56.109
very large posters, very well done. That describes

00:24:56.109 --> 00:24:59.710
the entire history and beginning through the

00:24:59.710 --> 00:25:03.269
end of the courier. And we had that displayed

00:25:03.269 --> 00:25:07.309
in the Hanley Hall in the museum. And it was

00:25:07.309 --> 00:25:11.309
so popular and we had people come in that were

00:25:11.309 --> 00:25:14.170
either associated or had family members associated

00:25:14.170 --> 00:25:17.140
with the courier. And a lot of encouragement

00:25:17.140 --> 00:25:21.119
to keep it. Of course, we had to give it up back

00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:25.160
to the Rhodes organization. And so we went ahead

00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:29.000
and funded and duplicated all of those hanging

00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.640
posters, if you will. And a brand new hallway

00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:35.420
just outside of the control room has been finished.

00:25:35.690 --> 00:25:38.910
With nice lighting and video and we're and we

00:25:38.910 --> 00:25:42.230
have those Mounted on the wall and it and it's

00:25:42.230 --> 00:25:44.910
just it's very meaningful to to walk down that

00:25:44.910 --> 00:25:48.190
hallway and read the story When it was dedicated

00:25:48.190 --> 00:25:51.549
we had several courier people come in to the

00:25:51.549 --> 00:25:55.869
museum actually some rhodians They were absolutely

00:25:55.869 --> 00:26:00.390
fascinating to to talk with Living here in America.

00:26:00.390 --> 00:26:04.269
We just don't understand the value of our culture

00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.819
When they came in for the dedication, I had an

00:26:07.819 --> 00:26:09.700
opportunity to talk with almost every one of

00:26:09.700 --> 00:26:12.960
them. And they were so amazingly appreciative

00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.539
of what the United States did to the Voice of

00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:19.799
America message. And in particular, particularly,

00:26:20.980 --> 00:26:22.960
the island of Rhodes was pretty well devastated

00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.539
after the war. And our good neighbor policies

00:26:26.539 --> 00:26:31.900
helped to rebuild that island. The crewmen that

00:26:31.900 --> 00:26:36.170
were on board ship would would go to shore and

00:26:36.170 --> 00:26:39.650
actually there were the captain of the ship arranged

00:26:39.650 --> 00:26:45.490
a mixer to get the guys to meet the gals on shore

00:26:45.490 --> 00:26:49.170
and over the course of the 12 year period there

00:26:49.170 --> 00:26:52.549
were a little bit more than 95 marriages that

00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:58.970
took place to courier men and I came across another

00:26:58.970 --> 00:27:04.039
interesting tidbit was the American Brides dress

00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:08.319
was absolutely revered. And so the first woman

00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:12.500
to get married to a courier crewman ordered an

00:27:12.500 --> 00:27:17.660
American bride's dress. And it was so popular

00:27:17.660 --> 00:27:20.960
that it was repurposed five more times. It wound

00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:25.420
up being on six brides. They retrofitted it and

00:27:25.420 --> 00:27:29.400
modified it to fit five other women. And so six

00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:32.320
women got married in the same dress. because

00:27:32.320 --> 00:27:36.819
it was the thing to do on the island of Rhodes.

00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:42.400
Well, that's some pretty cool stuff. Well, we

00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.079
need to take a break, but we will come back and

00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.539
talk some more with Lee, and we'll give you a

00:27:48.539 --> 00:27:51.880
chance to call in and ask your questions. Again,

00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:58.450
that phone number is 812 -638 -4261. We'll come

00:27:58.450 --> 00:28:01.430
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00:31:33.299 --> 00:31:37.519
on Skype. Well, Lee, while we're waiting on the

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calls to come in, I know you want to talk about

00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:44.730
a special event coming up here in just a little

00:31:44.730 --> 00:31:48.750
over a week, I guess it is. You've got a gala

00:31:48.750 --> 00:31:52.250
and a fundraiser, but also a special event station

00:31:52.250 --> 00:31:56.650
going on on the 22nd. So why don't you tell everybody

00:31:56.650 --> 00:32:01.440
about that? Yes. Thank you, Neil. Part of the

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:07.180
BOA, National BOA Broadcast Museum, Museum of

00:32:07.180 --> 00:32:09.759
Broadcasting, we have a very important part of

00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.099
the museum is the Westchester Amateur Radio Association.

00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:17.200
They operate under the call sign WCA BOA, Whiskey

00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:21.380
Charlie 8, Voice of America. And on September

00:32:21.380 --> 00:32:25.900
22, we will be celebrating BOA's 74th anniversary.

00:32:26.349 --> 00:32:30.950
And we'll have a special event station on that

00:32:30.950 --> 00:32:35.009
day. I don't remember the hours right now, but

00:32:35.009 --> 00:32:39.349
I think around 8 or 9 in the morning until 5

00:32:39.349 --> 00:32:43.109
o 'clock in the afternoon. And we'll be mostly

00:32:43.109 --> 00:32:48.210
on 40 and 20. On 40 meters, we generally operate

00:32:48.210 --> 00:32:53.849
in the vicinity of 7 .268 megahertz, 7 .268.

00:32:55.420 --> 00:33:02.019
20 meters typically operate around 14 .268. So

00:33:02.019 --> 00:33:06.220
if you're available, stop in, say hello. We are

00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:10.420
sending special QSL certificates through a new

00:33:10.420 --> 00:33:13.119
process that will be explained when you make

00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.900
contact with us. And so we'd love to hear from

00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:21.299
you and give us a call when you hear us on Saturday,

00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:26.740
September 22. 22nd. Yep. Yeah. And then talk

00:33:26.740 --> 00:33:28.700
a little bit about what's going on that evening

00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:33.019
too. We have, uh, we're funded by donations,

00:33:33.019 --> 00:33:37.299
uh, from various sources and we have what we

00:33:37.299 --> 00:33:40.279
call the gala, which is a fundraiser event, but

00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.319
we have over 120 some people attend the event

00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.079
and we have a band called rock the radio, uh,

00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:53.059
that evening and a dinner, a dinner kind of arrangement.

00:33:53.390 --> 00:33:58.190
And it's intended to be a fundraiser, but we

00:33:58.190 --> 00:34:01.069
have an incredible crew of docents at the museum.

00:34:01.529 --> 00:34:04.069
Our docents will be there to answer questions,

00:34:04.569 --> 00:34:09.010
and it's a really fun evening, Neil, a lot of

00:34:09.010 --> 00:34:13.469
fun. OK, so if you're interested in Rock the

00:34:13.469 --> 00:34:18.130
Radio, that's the... The gala on the 22nd you

00:34:18.130 --> 00:34:21.829
can check that out at the website That's vo a

00:34:21.829 --> 00:34:25.630
museum org and you can check out that out and

00:34:25.630 --> 00:34:28.829
see about tickets and that kind of thing for

00:34:28.829 --> 00:34:33.170
Rock the radio at 6 p .m. On the 22nd and if

00:34:33.170 --> 00:34:36.210
you can't make it to Westchester, Ohio you can

00:34:36.210 --> 00:34:40.050
get on 40 or 20 and Get a hold of Mike and the

00:34:40.050 --> 00:34:45.099
guys and they'll get you a QSL card. So, tell

00:34:45.099 --> 00:34:48.679
me what... Let me put the phone number out here

00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:55.219
again. 812 -638 -4261. 812 -NET -HAM -1 or tweet

00:34:55.219 --> 00:34:58.929
us. Ham talk live if you have a question about

00:34:58.929 --> 00:35:02.869
the museum or the Information on the courier

00:35:02.869 --> 00:35:05.710
that we're talking about tonight Tell us a little

00:35:05.710 --> 00:35:08.869
bit about some of the other updates. I know Gary

00:35:08.869 --> 00:35:11.469
has told me that that I wouldn't recognize the

00:35:11.469 --> 00:35:16.530
place It's only been a few weeks. So What else

00:35:16.530 --> 00:35:21.510
has been going on? We continue to upgrade and

00:35:21.510 --> 00:35:25.349
modernize the museum from its operational days

00:35:25.349 --> 00:35:30.349
as a transmitting relay station. We have a very

00:35:30.349 --> 00:35:32.769
well put together, well there's actually four

00:35:32.769 --> 00:35:36.449
museums in the building. Of course the VOA museum,

00:35:36.590 --> 00:35:40.070
we have the modernized control room when the

00:35:40.070 --> 00:35:43.190
stations shut down. Very well equipped and we

00:35:43.190 --> 00:35:46.650
take people in there and talk about. how the

00:35:46.650 --> 00:35:49.230
station ran. We preserved one of the Collins

00:35:49.230 --> 00:35:53.869
250kw transmitters. We show you that. And also

00:35:53.869 --> 00:35:56.610
the antenna switch out back is preserved. That's

00:35:56.610 --> 00:36:00.590
a 22 by 6 antenna switch. It's an amazing sight

00:36:00.590 --> 00:36:04.250
to see. And then we talk about special English

00:36:04.250 --> 00:36:07.650
that was specific to the VOA. And then the other

00:36:07.650 --> 00:36:10.010
three museums, we have a room just dedicated

00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:12.929
to Paul Crosley. He was such a prolific inventor.

00:36:13.309 --> 00:36:18.369
He invented and marketed over, I counted one

00:36:18.369 --> 00:36:21.349
day over 32 different products that were not

00:36:21.349 --> 00:36:26.289
radio related. They were other devices. So we

00:36:26.289 --> 00:36:29.510
go through a lot of that in that room. Just recently

00:36:29.510 --> 00:36:32.550
we have another room that's a radio timeline

00:36:32.550 --> 00:36:38.670
which we trace really from the days of the beginning

00:36:38.670 --> 00:36:43.900
of. discovering magnetism and Voltaia and Hertz.

00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.119
We trace all the way that up to the satellite.

00:36:48.380 --> 00:36:53.280
And just a few days ago, Neil, I installed an

00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.320
antenna, a replica of the antenna that's on the

00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.820
Titanic in that room so people can see the size

00:36:59.820 --> 00:37:03.000
of the antenna. It was called a twin T. The Titanic

00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:08.199
actually had two antennas, one that was configured

00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:12.090
to to optimize the signal in the forward direction,

00:37:12.550 --> 00:37:15.829
and the other one optimized it to the rear. And

00:37:15.829 --> 00:37:19.489
we will have on display a nice model of the Titanic.

00:37:20.190 --> 00:37:23.590
And the importance there is that, of course,

00:37:23.590 --> 00:37:25.429
we all know the story of the Titanic, but there's

00:37:25.429 --> 00:37:28.710
a very positive story out of it because over

00:37:28.710 --> 00:37:32.170
710 people were saved because of wireless technology.

00:37:32.570 --> 00:37:35.429
It was all Spark transmitters, but Spark worked,

00:37:35.570 --> 00:37:40.539
and it worked very well. Over 12 ships heard

00:37:40.539 --> 00:37:43.320
the Titanic signal within a 500 mile radius.

00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.679
And so we've got that antenna to try to just

00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.360
draw attention to that wireless part. And then

00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.780
on the other side of the museum, we have what's

00:37:52.780 --> 00:37:55.440
called the Media Heritage Museum, which if you

00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.940
grew up around Southwest Ohio, you were familiar

00:37:58.940 --> 00:38:01.980
with the television and radio from the beginning

00:38:01.980 --> 00:38:05.590
here in Cincinnati. And we trace all of that

00:38:05.590 --> 00:38:10.070
quite well. There's from Ruth Lyons to Larry

00:38:10.070 --> 00:38:13.010
Smith's puppets and all of the personalities,

00:38:13.170 --> 00:38:15.909
a lot of the hardware, TV cameras and broadcast

00:38:15.909 --> 00:38:19.630
replication of broadcast studios. So it's an

00:38:19.630 --> 00:38:21.630
amazing place to come see. If you ever get down

00:38:21.630 --> 00:38:24.670
to Southwest Ohio, be sure and stop in. We're

00:38:24.670 --> 00:38:27.409
open every weekend now, Friday and Saturday,

00:38:28.070 --> 00:38:32.170
1 p .m. to 4 p .m. And we have a fantastic staff

00:38:32.170 --> 00:38:35.980
of docents. to help. You can take the tour yourself

00:38:35.980 --> 00:38:39.420
or a docent can show you around. It's your choice.

00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:43.639
Let me correct you there, Lee. You said Friday

00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.059
and Saturday. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Saturday and

00:38:47.059 --> 00:38:49.139
Sunday. Thank you. Thank you for catching that.

00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.000
Yeah. Every Saturday and Sunday, 1 p .m. to 4

00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.960
p .m. Okay. And if you're a ham, you can also

00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:02.320
visit the station there at WC8VOA. Work a pile

00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.179
up usually at least Yes, you can operate whether

00:39:07.179 --> 00:39:09.400
or not you'll get a pile up or not. Well most

00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.099
of the time it's a pile up Yep. Yep. Mike Mike

00:39:13.099 --> 00:39:15.360
Braun is typically at the operating station along

00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:20.739
with several others Carl and Bob etc and Mark

00:39:20.739 --> 00:39:24.280
but Always invite people to come in and operate

00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.360
take the station to make some contacts we have

00:39:29.860 --> 00:39:32.840
Even if the person is not licensed, as long as

00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.119
we have a licensed control operator, we have

00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.280
a lot of non -licensed people get on the air

00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.039
and absolutely have a blast. Neil, they can't

00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:43.119
believe they just talked to Italy or Japan or

00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.980
something like that, you know? Yeah, and great

00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:53.099
room there set up with all kinds of cool stuff.

00:39:54.190 --> 00:39:56.949
It's always a joy to get over there, and I enjoy

00:39:56.949 --> 00:39:59.570
getting on the air from there. So if you get

00:39:59.570 --> 00:40:03.170
a chance, stop in. And I know many of you have

00:40:03.170 --> 00:40:07.389
actually been there. And people come in and say,

00:40:07.530 --> 00:40:12.090
yeah, yeah, I heard it on HamTalk Live. So that

00:40:12.090 --> 00:40:16.190
was kind of cool to have that happen on one of

00:40:16.190 --> 00:40:18.630
my, well, I think it was the last trip over.

00:40:18.809 --> 00:40:23.420
I think that happened. VOAMuseum .org is where

00:40:23.420 --> 00:40:26.039
you can find more information about the museum,

00:40:26.099 --> 00:40:30.739
and there's a link there to the WC8VOA website

00:40:30.739 --> 00:40:35.780
as well, which is WC8VOA .org, right? Correct.

00:40:36.219 --> 00:40:39.920
Yeah, okay. Just making sure. Well let's give

00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:42.699
one more opportunity here for calls tonight.

00:40:42.860 --> 00:40:46.900
It's 812 -638 -4261. I've been checking the...

00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:49.699
tweets here too and haven't seen anything but

00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:53.539
we know most of our audience doesn't listen to

00:40:53.539 --> 00:40:58.019
us live they listen to the replay so we know

00:40:58.019 --> 00:41:00.559
that happens but if you're listening live we'd

00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.519
love to hear from you it's eight one two six

00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.340
three eight four two six one so all kinds of

00:41:07.340 --> 00:41:11.369
things happening and Okay, I'm gonna pull this

00:41:11.369 --> 00:41:14.929
one out of the hat and I think you're prepared

00:41:14.929 --> 00:41:18.349
for this but we didn't put it in the in the plan

00:41:18.349 --> 00:41:22.250
Talk about this this new rhombic that you guys

00:41:22.250 --> 00:41:26.989
are working on. Oh, yes quite exciting the The

00:41:26.989 --> 00:41:29.869
VOA station here in Bethany when it was operational

00:41:29.869 --> 00:41:35.730
had 22 rhombics Wrong I said that wrong. We had

00:41:35.730 --> 00:41:40.670
22 antennas Fourteen of them were rhombics and

00:41:40.670 --> 00:41:43.550
eight of them were, we had two curtain antennas

00:41:43.550 --> 00:41:46.590
and each curtain had four dipoles in it. But

00:41:46.590 --> 00:41:50.929
we had 14 rhombics. And normally, as I'd mentioned

00:41:50.929 --> 00:41:53.989
earlier, when you feed a rhombic at one end,

00:41:54.469 --> 00:41:58.630
you terminate the other end in the impedance,

00:41:58.650 --> 00:42:02.510
I think it's 600 ohms. And that gives us its

00:42:02.510 --> 00:42:06.960
directionality forward and a fairly narrow beam

00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:11.619
width and that's what the amateur radio station

00:42:11.619 --> 00:42:16.260
is going to put up is we've done some testing

00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:21.019
on a temporary rhombic and now we are in the

00:42:21.019 --> 00:42:24.719
process of acquiring 80 -foot poles and it will

00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.099
be put up in the traditional diamond shape and

00:42:28.099 --> 00:42:32.400
It'll be broadband by using three wires on the

00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:36.860
sides Each leg will have three wires As a conductors

00:42:36.860 --> 00:42:40.519
which helps to broadband the the antenna But

00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:43.739
we're quite excited. It's it's it's in process

00:42:43.739 --> 00:42:46.440
right now Neil. They just had a meeting two days

00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.639
ago About acquiring the 80 foot poles and once

00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.260
we get those up the wire and everything else

00:42:53.260 --> 00:42:55.980
will go up pretty quickly So we'll let everybody

00:42:55.980 --> 00:42:58.260
know with all they'll let you know through the

00:42:58.260 --> 00:43:01.099
ham station and we'll let you know on the website

00:43:01.099 --> 00:43:05.159
All right, very good. So Some more to look forward

00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.139
to over there at the Voice of America Museum

00:43:08.139 --> 00:43:11.960
of Broadcasting and let me take one last look

00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:15.440
here at Twitter and make sure we're not missing

00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.820
anyone's questions here tonight, but I think

00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:25.039
we have everything covered. Lee, it's great as

00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:29.000
always to talk to you and thanks for coming on

00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.139
the show and talking with everybody here tonight.

00:43:32.730 --> 00:43:36.489
and letting us know about the new exhibit with

00:43:36.489 --> 00:43:40.070
the courier and some of the history there. And

00:43:40.070 --> 00:43:43.070
come back any time. We'd love to have you back.

00:43:43.670 --> 00:43:45.869
Well, thank you, Neil. And certainly on behalf

00:43:45.869 --> 00:43:48.590
of the museum and the Westchester Amateur Radio

00:43:48.590 --> 00:43:50.869
Association, we thank you for the opportunity

00:43:50.869 --> 00:43:54.309
to be on the program. We're still trying to get

00:43:54.309 --> 00:43:56.289
our message out to everyone. And this was certainly

00:43:56.289 --> 00:43:58.809
a very important vehicle. So thank you for everything

00:43:58.809 --> 00:44:01.090
you're doing. Happy to be here and we'll see

00:44:01.090 --> 00:44:04.829
you next time. All right, very good and oh just

00:44:04.829 --> 00:44:08.590
just did come in here I've got a note from Jim

00:44:08.590 --> 00:44:13.469
Wilson K5 in D if I can get my phone to cooperate

00:44:13.469 --> 00:44:17.329
here Great story about the courier. I have QSLs

00:44:17.329 --> 00:44:21.610
from Rhodes Greece VOA and Didn't have any idea

00:44:21.610 --> 00:44:26.110
that was that was around there. So It's good

00:44:26.110 --> 00:44:30.699
to hear from Jim there tonight and Didn't realize

00:44:30.699 --> 00:44:34.039
that that that was a ship. So now now, you know,

00:44:34.300 --> 00:44:38.199
so All right. Well, we're going to finish things

00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:40.980
up here tonight but thanks for coming on the

00:44:40.980 --> 00:44:45.019
show and and that is a wrap for this week's edition

00:44:45.019 --> 00:44:49.360
of ham talk live thanks to Lehigh to k8 CLI and

00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.420
everybody out there in cyberspace for Listening

00:44:52.420 --> 00:44:55.179
and chiming in and invite you back next Thursday

00:44:55.179 --> 00:44:59.320
night at 9 p .m. Eastern time We plan on having

00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:02.099
Don Greenbaum in one DG. I guess I should say

00:45:02.099 --> 00:45:05.960
we need to make sure he's coming but that's the

00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:09.119
plan to do a little recap on the Baker Island

00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:13.239
the expedition and You can catch up with what's

00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.460
coming up on the show by going to hamtalklive

00:45:16.460 --> 00:45:19.920
.com click on the show schedule link and you

00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.559
can see for sure who's coming up and If you like

00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.840
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00:45:26.860 --> 00:45:29.480
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00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.039
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00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:36.320
do that. So for now, this is Neal Rapp, WB9VPG,

00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:56.599
saying 7375, and may the good DX be yours. Bye

00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:57.400
bye.
