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It's ham talk live episode 00:01:42.969 --> 00:01:48.170 number 133 the Baker Island D expedition wrap 00:01:48.170 --> 00:01:51.810 -up recorded live on Thursday, September 20th 00:01:51.810 --> 00:01:56.849 2018 I'm your host Neil rap WB nine VPG. Thanks 00:01:56.849 --> 00:02:00.030 for tuning in to this episode of ham talk live 00:02:00.030 --> 00:02:03.650 tonight We're joined by Don green bomb in one 00:02:03.650 --> 00:02:06.650 DG and we'll take your calls live in a few minutes 00:02:06.939 --> 00:02:11.020 Last week here on the show Lee Height, K8CLI 00:02:11.020 --> 00:02:14.360 was here from the National Voice of America Museum 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:16.919 of Broadcasting talking about the new U .S. Coast 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.219 Guard Courier Exhibit at the Voice of America 00:02:21.219 --> 00:02:24.099 Museum. 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So don't forget about that. 00:06:00.730 --> 00:06:03.149 Well, Don Greenbaum is back with us tonight in 00:06:03.149 --> 00:06:08.430 1DG. He was licensed in 1962 and has operated 00:06:08.430 --> 00:06:10.949 from several remote locations and has been the 00:06:10.949 --> 00:06:14.420 pilot webmaster and QSL manager. for several 00:06:14.420 --> 00:06:18.259 DXpeditions. He's a member of ARRL, DDXA, and 00:06:18.259 --> 00:06:22.459 YCCC, and he's the treasurer of NCDXF and one 00:06:22.459 --> 00:06:26.259 of the founders of CW Ops. And Don resides in 00:06:26.259 --> 00:06:30.160 Duxbury, Massachusetts and is a 2006 inductee 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:36.360 into the CQDX Hall of Fame. And he's back and 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.259 a whole lot cooler than he was the last time 00:06:39.259 --> 00:06:42.680 I talked to him. So Don, welcome back. Thanks, 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.259 Neil. It's always fun being here. Well, you're 00:06:46.259 --> 00:06:49.540 back home now and like I said, much cooler because 00:06:49.540 --> 00:06:53.459 it was a hot one. The logs are done. You were 00:06:53.459 --> 00:06:58.699 on the show by sat phone here from the island 00:06:58.699 --> 00:07:03.420 live and you were just getting started on all 00:07:03.420 --> 00:07:06.879 the operations on the island and congratulations 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.839 to you and the team. on enduring the heat and 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:16.300 enduring everything and I saw my confirmation 00:07:16.300 --> 00:07:18.779 on Logbook of the World pretty soon after it 00:07:18.779 --> 00:07:23.199 was over and I just got some QSL cards for here 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:27.040 and for school here not long ago. So tell us 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:30.500 how all those QSL requests are going from the 00:07:30.500 --> 00:07:34.480 trip. Okay, well first I noticed this morning 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:38.500 that it's 50 degrees cooler here. this morning 00:07:38.500 --> 00:07:44.160 than it was when we talked on Baker. So we've 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:50.560 had about 4 ,000 people request cards on OQRS 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:55.720 and ViaDirect. The cards came out. We got them 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.180 from the printer about two weeks ago. They're 00:07:58.180 --> 00:08:02.680 being processed about 100 a day. There's about 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:06.459 1 ,700 Cards that have gone out in the mail, 00:08:06.459 --> 00:08:11.720 so we're about halfway through the backlog Lotw 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:18.040 for everybody who donated we uploaded those the 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:23.540 day I got home from Fiji and to date we've uploaded 00:08:23.540 --> 00:08:28.459 29 ,000 QSOS Because everybody that orders an 00:08:28.459 --> 00:08:34.289 OQRS QSL. I also upload those QSOS So we have 00:08:34.289 --> 00:08:39.649 about 29 ,000 of our 69 ,000 or roughly 40 % 00:08:39.649 --> 00:08:44.590 have gone up to LOTW. That's why you saw yours. 00:08:45.570 --> 00:08:48.929 And congratulations on your new one. Yeah, it 00:08:48.929 --> 00:08:52.110 was. It was an all time new one. And, and boy, 00:08:52.129 --> 00:08:54.409 I didn't think I was going to get it because 00:08:54.409 --> 00:08:58.009 every time I listened, I could hear absolutely 00:08:58.009 --> 00:09:02.639 nothing. And decided to give this FT8 thing a 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:08.519 try and The first night it didn't work but the 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:12.019 second night it finally did so we're going to 00:09:12.019 --> 00:09:15.139 talk about that in just a little bit, but sounds 00:09:15.139 --> 00:09:19.059 like you're making some headway on the on the 00:09:19.059 --> 00:09:22.440 QSL front now there are some good -looking cards 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.600 and I'm sure people will be anxiously awaiting 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.309 those Yeah, people like those four -sided cards 00:09:30.309 --> 00:09:34.149 Yeah, yeah, they are they are really really nice 00:09:34.149 --> 00:09:37.629 So I was glad to to see those in the mailbox 00:09:37.629 --> 00:09:40.409 the other day Well, tell us a little bit about 00:09:40.409 --> 00:09:44.590 the journey over there You know, I fortunately 00:09:44.590 --> 00:09:49.710 it was rather uneventful, but you had a cool 00:09:50.830 --> 00:09:54.490 pass by that I know you want to talk about and 00:09:54.490 --> 00:09:58.509 some of the adventures of getting there and back. 00:09:59.210 --> 00:10:02.129 So tell us a little bit about the trip. Okay, 00:10:02.330 --> 00:10:08.669 well because we were going into a nature reserve, 00:10:09.029 --> 00:10:11.230 Fish and Wildlife said we had to have our boat 00:10:11.230 --> 00:10:15.629 inspected at a US port. The nearest one, nearest 00:10:15.629 --> 00:10:18.809 being 1 ,100 nautical miles, was American Samoa. 00:10:19.340 --> 00:10:23.179 And if you draw a map between American Samoa 00:10:23.179 --> 00:10:28.840 and Baker Island, you pass several other DXCC 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:32.480 countries, but more importantly, you pass right 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:35.580 by something called Nicomororo Island, which 00:10:35.580 --> 00:10:40.320 is part of Kiribati. And that is where most people 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:48.610 now believe Amelia Earhart landed. When we were 00:10:48.610 --> 00:10:52.649 planning our trip, the boats called the Naya 00:10:52.649 --> 00:10:56.950 and Rob Barrell, the captain, has been searching 00:10:56.950 --> 00:11:01.370 with a group called Tigger for Amelia Earhart 00:11:01.370 --> 00:11:04.169 for close to 20 years. And they've been to all 00:11:04.169 --> 00:11:07.389 these islands. That's what made our voyage so 00:11:07.389 --> 00:11:10.750 uneventful, because they've been in this area 00:11:10.750 --> 00:11:14.210 many times. It's a ship that's been out at sea. 00:11:15.049 --> 00:11:20.470 I think 15 years now, so quite experienced, quite 00:11:20.470 --> 00:11:25.350 capable. And so a couple of days out on this 00:11:25.350 --> 00:11:31.990 six -day voyage, we were literally within hundreds 00:11:31.990 --> 00:11:38.649 of feet of Nicomoror. And the captain was hoping 00:11:38.649 --> 00:11:43.470 we could stop and dive. But when he asked Kiribati 00:11:43.470 --> 00:11:45.990 for permission because we were entering their 00:11:45.990 --> 00:11:48.809 waters, of course They said yeah, that's great 00:11:48.809 --> 00:11:50.909 Come by and pick us up because we want to be 00:11:50.909 --> 00:11:53.710 there if you find anything and of course that 00:11:53.710 --> 00:11:56.809 would have delayed us from reaching Baker by 00:11:56.809 --> 00:12:00.970 days and days so but they pointed out to us where 00:12:00.970 --> 00:12:04.649 they think the airplane lies off the beach and 00:12:04.649 --> 00:12:09.509 that was really neat we Got to Baker as you said 00:12:09.509 --> 00:12:17.960 without any issues, 10 days at Baker, 69 ,000 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:23.360 QSOs, extreme heat. We hightailed it out of there 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:26.080 because of an approaching storm which made the 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:29.139 seas a little rough going back to Fiji. And the 00:12:29.139 --> 00:12:33.360 return to Fiji was another 1 ,300 nautical miles. 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:38.039 So the NIA tooled around with us 2 ,400 nautical 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:44.590 miles. Nobody got injured getting on and off 00:12:44.590 --> 00:12:48.590 over the reef. We didn't lose any gear. None 00:12:48.590 --> 00:12:53.509 of the radios failed. The thing I'll always remember 00:12:53.509 --> 00:12:57.929 about the voyage were the sunsets, the amazing 00:12:57.929 --> 00:13:04.429 colors in the sky. Every evening, and we had 00:13:04.429 --> 00:13:07.929 fairly clear sailing, so we had a beautiful sunset 00:13:07.929 --> 00:13:12.600 every night. Fijian's are very musical. So every 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.539 night somebody was playing the banjo or guitar 00:13:15.539 --> 00:13:21.100 and singing it. It was quite a nice trip. Uh, 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:23.700 and we made lots of cues, which is always fun 00:13:23.700 --> 00:13:27.279 on at the expedition. Well, that's what you want 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:29.759 to hear. You don't want the drama and it sounds 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:33.080 like this one was pretty drama free. And I'm 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:36.220 sure you're, you're very, very happy about that. 00:13:36.409 --> 00:13:41.090 So let's talk about those cues You know early 00:13:41.090 --> 00:13:45.409 on I know just kind of watching the the social 00:13:45.409 --> 00:13:48.370 media and watching some of the posts and things 00:13:48.370 --> 00:13:51.450 there was some disappointment with band conditions 00:13:51.450 --> 00:13:56.730 and Seemed like you guys were on FTA a whole 00:13:56.730 --> 00:14:00.799 lot more than we were expecting, and you were 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.600 able to compensate for some of those band conditions 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:08.200 with that. So tell us how FT -8 changed this 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:13.059 expedition and maybe future de -expeditions and 00:14:13.059 --> 00:14:17.539 why you ended up using it so much. Okay, well, 00:14:18.259 --> 00:14:22.600 we had eight stations. FT -8 was used on two 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:27.950 of them, so... It was a quarter, digital was 00:14:27.950 --> 00:14:32.070 a quarter of our available radios. And interestingly 00:14:32.070 --> 00:14:37.990 enough, FT8 was 24 % of our cues. But the bottom 00:14:37.990 --> 00:14:45.710 line is, CW was 40 % of our cues. Sideband was 00:14:45.710 --> 00:14:54.139 about 27. So, FT8 didn't detract, it added. I'm 00:14:54.139 --> 00:14:59.460 a firm believer that if we did not use FTA, we 00:14:59.460 --> 00:15:03.779 would have made about 10 ,000 to 12 ,000 less 00:15:03.779 --> 00:15:10.259 QSOs. We hadn't planned it to be that way. We 00:15:10.259 --> 00:15:13.179 were planning a lot more RIDI, but FTA is a digital 00:15:13.179 --> 00:15:18.559 mode, and FTA excels for weak signals, and we 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.250 went at the bottom of the cycle. It took us three 00:15:21.250 --> 00:15:25.450 years to get licensed, permitted to go. By the 00:15:25.450 --> 00:15:27.909 time we got the permit with the window they gave 00:15:27.909 --> 00:15:33.149 us, it was go at the bottom of the cycle. We 00:15:33.149 --> 00:15:38.570 made 1 ,700 queues on top band. 90 % of those 00:15:38.570 --> 00:15:46.049 were CW. So FTA was the third most successful 00:15:46.049 --> 00:15:51.580 mode, but 900 people and you're one of them, 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:56.899 made one cue on one band with the Baker Island 00:15:56.899 --> 00:16:02.059 The Expedition. And that one cue was FT8. And 00:16:02.059 --> 00:16:05.879 when we got back, there was email after email 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:09.019 saying exactly what you just said, Neil. They 00:16:09.019 --> 00:16:13.899 didn't expect a cue so. A third of those uniques 00:16:13.899 --> 00:16:21.409 were in Europe with stations of modest So FTA 00:16:21.409 --> 00:16:28.750 proved the difference in you making a queue or 00:16:28.750 --> 00:16:37.330 not for 900 people. We had 18 ,000 uniques because 00:16:37.330 --> 00:16:42.049 we stayed only on 20 meters with two of our eight 00:16:42.049 --> 00:16:46.470 radios. some points during the day when we had 00:16:46.470 --> 00:16:51.730 three stations on 20 meters CW digital or FT8 00:16:51.730 --> 00:16:58.250 or CW or sideband so we were taking advantage 00:16:58.250 --> 00:17:02.669 of our best band and Putting the weak ones in 00:17:02.669 --> 00:17:07.329 the log with FT8. Where is this going? We discovered 00:17:07.329 --> 00:17:11.390 after a day or so that one operator could be 00:17:11.390 --> 00:17:13.730 in the digital tent which became known as the 00:17:13.730 --> 00:17:20.289 digital palace and using the Fox Hound mode could 00:17:20.289 --> 00:17:24.930 operate two radios just by going backwards and 00:17:24.930 --> 00:17:28.750 forwards and filling the queue and choosing stations 00:17:28.750 --> 00:17:32.910 to work and we had some rates of 300 an hour. 00:17:33.630 --> 00:17:39.970 We started FT8 two days into the expedition so 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:43.480 We might have been able to do more. You asked 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:47.779 where this is going. So imagine this. You could 00:17:47.779 --> 00:17:52.099 put three radios on a multiplexer and operate 00:17:52.099 --> 00:17:58.160 three different bands. One operator could theoretically 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:05.359 operate three radios with one antenna. Imagine 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:10.430 the footprint you save. Imagine the resources 00:18:10.430 --> 00:18:17.730 you save, and the efficiency of maybe 400 cues 00:18:17.730 --> 00:18:22.390 an hour with one operator. I think somebody's 00:18:22.390 --> 00:18:33.029 going to do that. And I see FTA making a lot 00:18:33.029 --> 00:18:39.000 more 6 meter cues possible in the future. making 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:43.420 a lot more, bringing a lot more DXers into the 00:18:43.420 --> 00:18:45.779 hobby. Cause you've heard this. Lots of people 00:18:45.779 --> 00:18:48.140 say, Oh, I can't work the X, especially a top 00:18:48.140 --> 00:18:52.559 10. Now all of a sudden here's a shot. Yep. Yeah. 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:57.680 And I, I was planning on running into, uh, to 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:01.220 school and, and use the stepper and everything 00:19:01.220 --> 00:19:04.960 and then amplifier and, and, and that just didn't 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:09.640 time into my schedule and so I was stuck at home 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:15.839 on an offset or fed dipole that's kind of you 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:20.279 know strangely arranged because of I live on 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:22.900 a hill and so it's kind of sloped into the hill 00:19:22.900 --> 00:19:28.339 a little bit and running 150 watts and and you 00:19:28.339 --> 00:19:32.539 worked the number five most wanted DXN yeah worked 00:19:32.539 --> 00:19:40.230 it and, you know, was able to get it on FT8, 00:19:40.230 --> 00:19:44.190 and I kept going over to phone, which is kind 00:19:44.190 --> 00:19:48.130 of my preferred way, and heard nothing. I went 00:19:48.130 --> 00:19:52.329 over to CW and was shaking because there was 00:19:52.329 --> 00:19:54.869 a time when I did 20 words a minute, but that 00:19:54.869 --> 00:20:02.450 was several decades ago, and I thought, Okay, 00:20:02.450 --> 00:20:07.490 I'll do CW if I have to Couldn't hear it could 00:20:07.490 --> 00:20:11.250 not could not pull it out at all and so when 00:20:11.250 --> 00:20:15.130 I went to ft8 and all of a sudden I saw it come 00:20:15.130 --> 00:20:20.109 up I was I was amazed and it took a while but 00:20:20.109 --> 00:20:24.309 but it worked and and I think if like you said 00:20:24.309 --> 00:20:28.880 if you think you can triplex that and get three 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:34.359 bands on one antenna, the resources that you 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:38.700 could save and, you know, those kinds of rates, 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:41.940 I think somebody, I'm like you, somebody's going 00:20:41.940 --> 00:20:47.420 to try that. We're planning it. Yeah, yeah, I 00:20:47.420 --> 00:20:52.140 would too. So, you know, that may be how a lot 00:20:52.140 --> 00:20:56.759 of people were able to get the the first -timers, 00:20:57.420 --> 00:21:03.039 you know, the all -time new one, but I'm interested 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:10.960 to hear that it was only 25%, but it also may 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:13.759 be that that was all that we could hear back 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:18.940 here in the States, too. So that may have affected 00:21:18.940 --> 00:21:21.019 that a little bit. No, I think it was their concentration 00:21:21.019 --> 00:21:28.859 of... Six radios on other modes Yeah, okay, we're 00:21:28.859 --> 00:21:34.880 good Well, let's uh Let's talk about finances 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:39.299 here for a minute. This is no small feat and 00:21:39.299 --> 00:21:42.420 and you've you've done a great job with financing 00:21:42.420 --> 00:21:46.019 and and and you are the man when it comes to 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:50.039 Financing the expeditions and in fact there's 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:54.599 an article in this month's QST about Financing 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:57.720 the expeditions and and by the way Don probably 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:00.500 won't say it But but you know you can go in there 00:22:00.500 --> 00:22:04.279 and vote for the cover plaque award and and Don's 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:06.720 one of the choices here so so you might want 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:11.039 to go vote for Don but How did you do with raising 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:13.660 money before the trip? Where did it come from 00:22:13.660 --> 00:22:17.779 and then? How did that go during the trip and 00:22:17.779 --> 00:22:22.660 after? The way to raise money for a de -expedition 00:22:22.660 --> 00:22:26.980 is from clubs and foundations. The team put up 00:22:26.980 --> 00:22:31.000 half the money. The budget for this operation 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:37.500 was almost $470 ,000. The boat was expensive. 00:22:37.660 --> 00:22:40.859 The shipping was expensive. We had to buy the 00:22:40.859 --> 00:22:46.579 tents. There were a lot of a lot of things to 00:22:46.579 --> 00:22:49.559 put together over the year to make this possible. 00:22:51.180 --> 00:22:56.619 So half the money came from the team before we 00:22:56.619 --> 00:23:02.400 left. Another 35 % of the pre -departure expenses 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:08.700 came from clubs and foundations. NCDXF was our 00:23:08.700 --> 00:23:17.500 biggest financier at $75 ,000. The bulk of the 00:23:17.500 --> 00:23:20.880 money excluding the team because that would really 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:26.180 skew the numbers Came from North America 77 % 00:23:26.180 --> 00:23:30.160 of our funding came from North America, which 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:35.279 made less than half of the cues by the way Where 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:39.339 did it come from the team 49 % Foundations and 00:23:39.339 --> 00:23:44.380 clubs 24 % and individuals mostly after we got 00:23:44.380 --> 00:23:48.390 back People like to make sure they're in the 00:23:48.390 --> 00:23:52.869 log before they pay. So OQRS brought in about 00:23:52.869 --> 00:23:56.069 a quarter of the budget after the fact. And we 00:23:56.069 --> 00:23:59.809 still had expenses after we got home, of course. 00:24:01.529 --> 00:24:05.630 How do you raise money? We did semi -weekly, 00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:10.049 bi -weekly press releases. We did daily releases 00:24:10.049 --> 00:24:13.569 while we were on the island. Keep people informed, 00:24:13.730 --> 00:24:16.710 give them something to look forward to, uh, post 00:24:16.710 --> 00:24:20.170 pictures, uh, and keep begging for money. Uh, 00:24:20.170 --> 00:24:23.630 we're still not fully paid, uh, for this trip, 00:24:23.690 --> 00:24:27.970 but I believe with OQ RS and when people start 00:24:27.970 --> 00:24:30.670 hearing that the cards are beginning to go out, 00:24:30.670 --> 00:24:36.009 uh, we'll get there. Very good. And even sneak 00:24:36.009 --> 00:24:38.690 in a phone call with ham talk live while you're 00:24:38.690 --> 00:24:42.390 there. So We appreciate that tremendously. It 00:24:42.390 --> 00:24:46.390 was good to hear from you over there. And, uh, 00:24:46.390 --> 00:24:50.690 and that was a highlight here. So, um, we appreciate 00:24:50.690 --> 00:24:53.809 that. All right. Well, we're going to take a 00:24:53.809 --> 00:24:56.910 break. 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HamTalk Live on both of those and 00:28:07.430 --> 00:28:13.509 you can find us there and got a note here from 00:28:13.509 --> 00:28:16.529 Jill Combs listening in Gaylord Michigan tonight 00:28:16.529 --> 00:28:21.809 so thanks for tuning in on the road there and 00:28:21.809 --> 00:28:27.380 Don you had a chance to check out some some wildlife 00:28:27.380 --> 00:28:32.579 while you were there some I have to tell this 00:28:32.579 --> 00:28:38.019 story I was in Florida this summer and and saw 00:28:38.019 --> 00:28:45.059 a guy walking his his pet and and we looked down 00:28:45.059 --> 00:28:50.519 and it was a tortoise this guy was just walking 00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.240 down the sidewalk of Cocoa Beach, walking his 00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:59.720 tortoise. So, so you never know where you're 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.480 going to see this wildlife. So, so what all did 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:09.680 you, did you run into while you were away? The 00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:14.019 island has being a bird sanctuary has anywhere 00:29:14.019 --> 00:29:20.720 between seven and 11 million birds. We're talking 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:27.339 about an island a mile and a half by a mile It's 00:29:27.339 --> 00:29:30.640 loud it's noisy when the wind stops there's an 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:35.539 incredible smell From the guano and it was mined 00:29:35.539 --> 00:29:40.180 as a guano island in the 1800s 1857 to be exact 00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:44.460 Before we even left the boat the first morning 00:29:44.460 --> 00:29:49.109 there were tortoises swimming around Each day 00:29:49.109 --> 00:29:54.769 as we went over the reef There were skates and 00:29:54.769 --> 00:30:05.990 rays swimming around the boat There were Hundreds 00:30:05.990 --> 00:30:09.869 of thousands hermit crabs that would crawl around 00:30:09.869 --> 00:30:14.809 come into the tent and bother bother us at night 00:30:15.130 --> 00:30:18.069 During the day, they went in the lighthouse and 00:30:18.069 --> 00:30:20.569 totally filled it up to get out of the sun. There 00:30:20.569 --> 00:30:26.109 are no trees on Baker Island. Only some scrub 00:30:26.109 --> 00:30:33.509 brush and so we saw hermit crabs, eight or ten 00:30:33.509 --> 00:30:37.289 different types of birds including red -tailed 00:30:37.289 --> 00:30:42.809 tropic birds, sooty terns. There were more sooty 00:30:42.809 --> 00:30:47.680 terns than anything else. frigate birds which 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.519 live in trees but on Baker Island where there 00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:55.099 aren't any they live on these little any hill 00:30:55.099 --> 00:31:00.140 they can find even if it's only a foot high and 00:31:00.140 --> 00:31:03.339 mass boobies and brown boobies and that sort 00:31:03.339 --> 00:31:07.180 of thing but the water was teeming with porpoises 00:31:07.180 --> 00:31:12.559 and when we left they call it the pod of Baker 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:16.140 Island bottlenose dolphins, they just led the 00:31:16.140 --> 00:31:18.240 way. You know how you see dolphins in front of 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:23.859 the boat? They just kept coming up and breaching 00:31:23.859 --> 00:31:27.259 and diving back in. So lots of wildlife, but 00:31:27.259 --> 00:31:29.599 there's also a lot of history on Baker Island. 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:35.799 In the mid -1800s, it was a guano camp. It was 00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.839 discovered by whalers. The captain of the ship 00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:43.599 was named Baker. The boat was the Howlands, and 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.359 now you know where Baker and Howland came from. 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:50.220 There are still the ruins of the settlement. 00:31:51.420 --> 00:31:56.180 In the 1930s, the Hawaiians tried to colonize 00:31:56.180 --> 00:32:00.779 it. That didn't go well. In fact, they finally 00:32:00.779 --> 00:32:03.299 gave up after the Japanese bombed it on the way 00:32:03.299 --> 00:32:06.119 back from Pearl Harbor. During the war, they 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.470 built a landing strip there. And the military 00:32:09.470 --> 00:32:17.569 was there and you can see a lot of rotting vehicles 00:32:17.569 --> 00:32:21.450 and landing craft. There are graves there of 00:32:21.450 --> 00:32:24.589 the couple of Hawaiians who died and military 00:32:24.589 --> 00:32:28.430 people. And you can still see where the defensive 00:32:28.430 --> 00:32:34.839 battlements were built into the coral. That in 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:41.440 a nutshell plus 120 degrees is Baker Island 8126 00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:44.559 384 261 is the phone number if you'd like to 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.380 call in and ask a question, please Do so now 00:32:48.380 --> 00:32:51.180 we'd love to hear from you tonight Now you mentioned 00:32:51.180 --> 00:32:53.440 the lighthouse and we had talked a little bit 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.259 about or you're gonna try to use that in any 00:32:56.259 --> 00:33:01.160 way Were you able to use that in any way? No, 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:08.440 that was built 80 or so years ago It was way 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:16.119 too small and it was occupied There were also 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.779 a few thousand of your friends Right. There was 00:33:19.779 --> 00:33:24.920 a Loran site there in the 1950s and there are 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:30.420 four hundred and twenty odd tall poles, but that 00:33:30.420 --> 00:33:35.309 was off -limits too because A, who wants to climb 00:33:35.309 --> 00:33:41.089 a 70 -year -old wooden pole, and B, it's a historical 00:33:41.089 --> 00:33:46.329 site. We put up antennas on the beach. Sounds 00:33:46.329 --> 00:33:52.869 like a good plan there. 812 -638 -4261 is the 00:33:52.869 --> 00:33:55.470 phone number to call if you have a question about 00:33:55.470 --> 00:34:02.190 the Baker Island De -Expedition. You you mentioned 00:34:02.190 --> 00:34:05.990 that you know there were there were all these 00:34:05.990 --> 00:34:11.530 wildlife Sanctuaries and for the birds did at 00:34:11.530 --> 00:34:15.050 any time did you think about? Renaming it to 00:34:15.050 --> 00:34:22.510 to Hitchcock Island There's a video that on porpoise 00:34:22.510 --> 00:34:34.900 Video There's a video on our website of these 00:34:34.900 --> 00:34:40.739 birds and when I show it at Hamventions and whatever 00:34:40.739 --> 00:34:45.380 it's right out of the movie. I mean You can't 00:34:45.380 --> 00:34:47.940 see the sky that's how many birds were flying 00:34:47.940 --> 00:34:50.519 around there at times, you know every morning 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:55.780 they went out for their food and every afternoon 00:34:55.780 --> 00:35:01.219 they came back and Don't think we have one picture 00:35:01.219 --> 00:35:03.519 including in the tents where there isn't some 00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:07.579 animal whether it be a hermit crab at your feet 00:35:07.579 --> 00:35:15.420 or a bird flying by Sounds like an interesting 00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:17.599 place eight one two six three eight four two 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:21.480 six one You have a question for Don in one DG 00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:27.329 with the Baker Island D expedition so I probably 00:35:27.329 --> 00:35:30.530 know the answer to this before I even ask it, 00:35:30.769 --> 00:35:37.369 but I'll go ahead and ask it. So what's next? 00:35:42.150 --> 00:35:44.210 You know, funny thing, we keep going to these 00:35:44.210 --> 00:35:48.789 top 10 countries and they're still 10 in the 00:35:48.789 --> 00:35:53.010 top 10. So there's, there's a bunch of rare ones 00:35:53.010 --> 00:35:56.760 out there. A bunch of those things are still 00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.880 in the Pacific. We're looking at a couple, but 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:06.000 it takes about a year to unwind from one of these. 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.460 Then it might take a year or two to get permission 00:36:11.460 --> 00:36:16.800 to go to one of these, or fundraise, or even 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.940 figure out which one you want to go to. I don't 00:36:19.940 --> 00:36:23.159 know where we're going next. okay well we've 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:26.539 got a caller on the line so let's see what question 00:36:26.539 --> 00:36:33.239 we have here for Don in 1dg good evening hello 00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:46.480 you're on the air hello okay I guess they're 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.559 not on the air eight one two six three eight 00:36:50.630 --> 00:36:54.789 4261 is the phone number to call if you'd like 00:36:54.789 --> 00:36:57.349 to ask a question about this. And yeah, it's 00:36:57.349 --> 00:37:04.789 funny how these top 10 lists, they don't get 00:37:04.789 --> 00:37:08.949 any shorter. So I'm sure you've got something 00:37:08.949 --> 00:37:13.949 in the works, but we'll wait to hear about that. 00:37:15.570 --> 00:37:20.159 So I'll ask you the next question that you may 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:28.920 or may not want to answer. Cold or hot? Oh, having 00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:38.320 been down to the southern oceans and the bad 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.300 weather and the bad seas, there's something nice 00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:49.150 about the calm Pacific. That you know, we this 00:37:49.150 --> 00:37:55.690 group's been to midway and wake Fiji and pongo 00:37:55.690 --> 00:38:01.409 pongo and of course Baker now I think I'm sticking 00:38:01.409 --> 00:38:07.190 to the mid latitudes for a while All right, I 00:38:07.190 --> 00:38:10.190 think we've got a call on the line now, so let's 00:38:10.190 --> 00:38:19.400 see if we do who's this Hello and Once again, 00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.039 we don't have a call. So all right, don't know 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.699 what's going on with that But we'll hang around 00:38:25.699 --> 00:38:28.159 here for a few minutes if you want to chime in 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.260 it's eight one two six three eight four two six 00:38:31.260 --> 00:38:39.300 one so Tell us a little bit about How you went 00:38:39.300 --> 00:38:41.719 about setting up all this equipment, you know, 00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:46.820 you mentioned, you know you had some poles there, 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.900 but you really couldn't use those and you just 00:38:49.900 --> 00:38:52.739 set everything up on the beach. How do you, how 00:38:52.739 --> 00:38:57.179 do you get your antennas to go up on the beachfront? 00:38:59.420 --> 00:39:03.179 A lot of what we did was driven by our special 00:39:03.179 --> 00:39:06.239 use permit. They said we couldn't go inland. 00:39:06.739 --> 00:39:09.699 We had to be on the beach, which actually, given 00:39:09.699 --> 00:39:13.039 that they also said we were limited to verticals, 00:39:13.150 --> 00:39:17.030 and 43 foot verticals at that. The only way to 00:39:17.030 --> 00:39:21.670 make a vertical play is in the salt water. So 00:39:21.670 --> 00:39:28.550 we got right down to the water line, just above 00:39:28.550 --> 00:39:34.110 the high tide mark. We had five antennas at the 00:39:34.110 --> 00:39:38.710 CW tent, which is three quarters of a mile from 00:39:38.710 --> 00:39:41.230 the digital tent, and the sideband tent was right 00:39:41.230 --> 00:39:46.079 in the middle. We had stepper verticals. We had 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:51.599 homebrew verticals that were two elements. We 00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:57.840 put the 160 antenna all the way at the north 00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:03.260 of the island. You throw an anchor in the ground 00:40:03.260 --> 00:40:07.000 and since it was only 43 feet, it's not that 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.340 hard to walk up and guy it. All the guy wires 00:40:10.340 --> 00:40:14.920 had to have flags on them. So we wouldn't harm 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:18.960 any wildlife, which we did not. We set up separate 00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:23.000 antennas down at each of the other two operating 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:29.039 tents. We had a 900 megahertz link back to the 00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:32.559 boat. We were playing with the idea of some of 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.000 the operators because we had more operators than 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.900 could stay on the island overnight that we were 00:40:38.900 --> 00:40:41.400 going to try to see about remote operation from 00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:45.460 the boat. There was a lot of multi -path distortion 00:40:45.460 --> 00:40:49.179 as the boat would rock, so remote never happened. 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:53.260 We had three antennas at the digital tent, we 00:40:53.260 --> 00:40:57.539 had five at the side band, and we had actually 00:40:57.539 --> 00:41:01.320 seven, including the receive antennas up at the 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:05.440 CW tent. So we got to the island, we set up the 00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:09.079 first thing, shelter, brought water on, food, 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.710 generators. That was the first day, and in 120 00:41:12.710 --> 00:41:16.250 degrees, that's enough. We all went back to the 00:41:16.250 --> 00:41:21.789 boat, recovered from the harsh environment. Day 00:41:21.789 --> 00:41:27.809 two, we got up all the CW antennas and a couple 00:41:27.809 --> 00:41:31.449 of the sideband antennas. They say it never rains 00:41:31.449 --> 00:41:34.289 on Baker, but that night a squall came through 00:41:34.289 --> 00:41:36.250 and knocked down a couple of those antennas. 00:41:36.670 --> 00:41:40.199 But after two full days, we were on the air the 00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.440 third day everything else went up and we had 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:48.119 eight stations. It took us over two days to put 00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:52.380 everything up but when we got word a storm was 00:41:52.380 --> 00:41:54.840 coming it took about 12 hours to take everything 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.800 down and bug out. Okay very good and then Riggs 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:03.019 what did you uh what did you end up with there 00:42:03.019 --> 00:42:06.460 and and any any changes that you think you might 00:42:06.460 --> 00:42:13.690 make for for that unknown next time. We had eight 00:42:13.690 --> 00:42:17.829 generators. We had eight radios, eight linears. 00:42:18.130 --> 00:42:20.969 The radios were all lent to us by Ellacraft. 00:42:21.010 --> 00:42:27.110 They were the K3S. We had KPA 500s. We had one 00:42:27.110 --> 00:42:31.130 homebrew linear for 160 that AA7JV built. That 00:42:31.130 --> 00:42:34.730 was two kilowatts. But everything else was 500 00:42:34.730 --> 00:42:39.429 watts. They worked fine. It was the conditions 00:42:39.429 --> 00:42:45.289 that limited us, not the power. We had weather 00:42:45.289 --> 00:42:49.329 port tents. As I mentioned, these were sturdy. 00:42:51.829 --> 00:42:55.690 We had four of them. We had four sleeping tents, 00:42:55.869 --> 00:42:59.469 in addition to that. From REI, they were these 00:42:59.469 --> 00:43:03.050 big agnes tents, they call them. Plus, we had 00:43:03.050 --> 00:43:05.250 this skiff going back and forth, bringing us 00:43:05.250 --> 00:43:09.300 food. Twice a day they brought us food, breakfast 00:43:09.300 --> 00:43:12.139 we made ourselves, mostly cereal or scrambled 00:43:12.139 --> 00:43:20.780 eggs. And the usual paraphernalia you need like, 00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:25.900 you know, desks, chairs, lights, fire extinguishers, 00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:30.480 protective burns under the generators, 5 ,800 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:37.099 pounds of gear. Wow. And it all has to go out 00:43:37.099 --> 00:43:39.940 there on the island and it all has to come back 00:43:39.940 --> 00:43:43.699 and and it did and so now we can look forward 00:43:43.699 --> 00:43:49.440 to hearing what the future may bring so Congratulations 00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:54.159 on a successful event and remind everyone where 00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:59.179 they can find the bird video and donate to the 00:43:59.179 --> 00:44:04.679 cause and how to do the OQRS thing to get those 00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:13.079 cards in the mail. So QSLs are on clublog .org. 00:44:18.630 --> 00:44:24.449 The Baker2018 .net is our main website. From 00:44:24.449 --> 00:44:30.070 there, you can see pictures and links to video. 00:44:30.630 --> 00:44:36.809 If you Google Vimeo9v1YC, there's a two -minute 00:44:36.809 --> 00:44:42.190 little introductory video that James did. All 00:44:42.190 --> 00:44:48.079 our sponsors are on the website. Equipment sponsors 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:53.260 in addition to Ella craft Antennas were from 00:44:53.260 --> 00:44:59.219 stepper the DX engineering folks gave us coax 00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:03.059 and connectors and power supplies Anything we 00:45:03.059 --> 00:45:07.340 wanted Tim Duffy Just said where do I ship it? 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:11.380 We had antenna tuners from rig expert. Thanks 00:45:11.380 --> 00:45:18.829 to them All this stuff, uh, Hile headsets, um, 00:45:18.909 --> 00:45:21.389 Bob pile made sure each operator had his own, 00:45:21.389 --> 00:45:25.369 uh, pro seven and, uh, God, I hope I haven't 00:45:25.369 --> 00:45:30.210 forgotten anybody, but, uh, 5 ,800 pounds of 00:45:30.210 --> 00:45:32.730 gear. There's probably someone in there. I forgot. 00:45:35.710 --> 00:45:38.670 Okay. So you can check that out. And, uh, again, 00:45:38.829 --> 00:45:43.730 club log for the OQRS. You can, uh, request the 00:45:43.730 --> 00:45:46.309 QSL card if you want to get one of those print 00:45:46.309 --> 00:45:51.590 QSL cards and we would of course appreciate some 00:45:51.590 --> 00:45:56.150 support to help finish off paying for this big 00:45:56.150 --> 00:45:59.550 trip. So Don thank you so much for coming back 00:45:59.550 --> 00:46:04.190 to tell us how it all went and when you get the 00:46:04.190 --> 00:46:08.550 next one figured out let us know we'd love to 00:46:08.550 --> 00:46:11.300 have you back. Oh, thank you. It's always fun, 00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:14.900 Neil. Thank you. All right. Well, that's a wrap 00:46:14.900 --> 00:46:18.440 for this week's edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks 00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:21.360 to my guest, Don Greenbaum, N1DG, and everybody 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.820 out there in cyberspace for listening and calling 00:46:23.820 --> 00:46:26.699 in and invite you back next Thursday night at 00:46:26.699 --> 00:46:30.360 9 p .m. Eastern Time. Christian Kudnick, K0STH, 00:46:30.380 --> 00:46:33.340 is going to be back and we're going to talk about 00:46:33.340 --> 00:46:38.280 the 100 watts at a wire fallout, the third edition 00:46:38.619 --> 00:46:43.119 the fallout so make sure you're here call in 00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.099 and harass Christian a little bit and and and 00:46:46.099 --> 00:46:50.360 talk about fallout getting ready for Just some 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.800 some changes in the weather. Hopefully we're 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:58.199 pretty warm here today heat index up in the triple 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.960 digits, but I think we said a 30 degree cool 00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.369 down tomorrow, so maybe that cooler weather is 00:47:05.369 --> 00:47:08.909 around the corner so make sure you check out 00:47:08.909 --> 00:47:11.510 the 100 watts and wire fallout and Christian 00:47:11.510 --> 00:47:14.710 will be here to talk about it and who knows what 00:47:14.710 --> 00:47:18.750 else next week right here at HamTalkLive .com 00:47:18.750 --> 00:47:22.210 and if you're interested in our upcoming guests 00:47:22.210 --> 00:47:25.469 that's the place to go just click on the show 00:47:25.469 --> 00:47:29.320 schedule link at HamTalkLive .com and You'll 00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:33.579 find that out. Also some progress on the t -shirts 00:47:33.579 --> 00:47:36.619 for those of you kind of following along on the 00:47:36.619 --> 00:47:40.880 satellite themed limited edition t -shirts. I've 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.219 got the order form almost ready to go online 00:47:44.219 --> 00:47:48.280 and I think we've got a printer and everything 00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:51.719 worked out for that. So look for that soon. It'll 00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.539 be in the next week or two. We'll announce all 00:47:54.539 --> 00:47:57.739 the details and start taking orders for those. 00:47:58.219 --> 00:48:02.260 And if you like Amtok Live, please consider listing 00:48:02.260 --> 00:48:07.400 us in a review. Leave us a review on iTunes or 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.360 wherever you listen. That just helps others find 00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.599 us faster. So thanks for that. So for now, this 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:19.360 is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7375, and may the 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:37.099 good DX be yours. Thank you.