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Hey good evening everyone, coming to you live
from Echo Mike 69, it's HamTalk Live, episode
number 135. Portable satellite operation with
Patrick WD9EWK, recorded live on Thursday, October
4th, 2018. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG.
Thanks for tuning in to another episode of HamTalk
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tonight is Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK and VA7EWK.
He's operated all sorts of modes on HF, Sideband,
CW, PSK -31, Ready, Amtor, Pactor, HF packet,
10 meter FM, you name it, and also VHF and UHF,
some Sideband even, and of course FM, and operating
through amateur radio satellites and the International
Space Station. He became a ham in 1977 and obtained
his Canadian license in 2002. Patrick is an AMSAT
ambassador, which is a volunteer representing
AMSAT at HamFests and other ham -related events.
He's done that since 2006 and continues to serve
AMSAT in that role. He's been an alternate member
of AMSAT's board of directors from 2011 to 2013
and has served in other appointments with AMSAT
over the past 10 years, and he's regarded as
a top source for current information about satellites,
and he's been kind enough to be on the show tonight.
So Patrick, welcome to HamTalk Live. Thanks for
having me on, Neil. We've been talking before
the show, and already we've talked longer than
we normally do, because it's usually WD9EWK WB9VPGECHOMIC69.
Much longer than usual on the radio. Yep. Okay.
So there we go. There's the show. Good night
folks. No, no, no, just kidding. Uh, yeah, it's,
it's, uh, it's got a nice to actually be able
to, uh, to talk a little bit, um, because those
satellite contacts are pretty quick. So, uh,
let's, let's talk a little bit about that. You
know, it's been fun to, uh, to get going on,
on the satellite stuff for me. It is a bit of
a challenge, but there's some there's some easy
ways to to start out and Portable is a fun way
to go with this and you've logged Literally thousands
of miles doing this So what are your best tips
for people who want to try out satellite and
specifically? Portable satellite operation Well,
the big thing is to practice, you know, don't
just assume I can hook up a radio and an antenna
and I'm going to make contacts. I suppose that
happens, but it just takes practice like anything
else in ham radio. You learn the technique for
operating, you get your equipment together, do
a little listening to hear how activity goes
on the different satellites, and then jump in.
The easiest thing would be if you're listening
on a pass and you hear somebody making some contacts,
call that station. as opposed to announcing yourself
over and over and over again. And in my case,
I operate with the same equipment I use on the
road as I do at home. I don't have a proper station
at home for satellites or anything ham radio.
So when it comes to satellites, I'm doing the
same thing in my front yard or backyard as I
would on the side of a highway out in the Arizona
or California desert or on a dry lake bed in
Mexico or when I've gone to Canada and Australia
over the years. So what do you think are the
most important things for somebody starting out
operating portable? What do you think are the
most critical things that they need to do as
far as getting on the bird? As with any satellite
operating, knowing when the passes are coming
by, but operating portable away from home, for
example, be safe in what you're doing. Usually
it's not wise and probably illegal to park along
the shoulder of an interstate highway or US highways
unless you're broken down. So find a safe spot
to operate, even if that means you're not going
to be on the prime grid boundary or four grid
intersection, be safe. You don't want to cause
yourself problems with the authorities. You don't
want other people to run into problems because
of where you've set up to operate. Out here in
the West, there's a lot of desert, but not all
desert is free and open for operating, federal
land, state lands, tribal lands, private property.
everybody takes their property seriously so you
know find a safe spot you know atlases were good
and now google maps really helps in trying to
pinpoint good places to go and of course have
a good view to the sky wherever you go to operate
all right well you mentioned the authorities
And we've already had a little fun with this
before the show tonight, but you've had a couple
of Couple of of questionable looks will say From
some law enforcement while you've been operating.
So so these are some good stories. So tell us
about About your adventures with NSA. Oh Of course,
you'd ask about that In 2014, AMSAT had its annual
symposium in Baltimore at a hotel next to BWI
Airport, which happened to be in an office park
area called Friendship Annex. Friendship Annex
is the annex for the NSA, the National Security
Agency. They're headquartered between Baltimore
and Washington, but they have a series of buildings
in this office park. with fences around them.
They're very well secured. But the hotel that
was in this area was the site of the symposium.
And what do AMSAT people do at symposiums oftentimes?
We go outside and operate. So the first morning
there, I went outside and worked FO29 and AO7
with two FT -817s sitting on top of my rental
car. And as I was finishing up the two passes,
I was surrounded by a couple police cruisers
and Once they pulled up I saw it on the sides
of the police cruisers. They said National Security
Agency police and the officers came out and Asked
me for identification asked me what I was doing
and as I was answering the officer who was asking
questions the other officer was Scribbling everything
I said down on the notepad Which led to a third
officer showing up after a few minutes? who started
asking me questions like what frequency was i
transmitting on what frequency was i receiving
on what mode of transmission was i using i don't
know if the officer knew you know radio or amateur
radio or he was given questions to ask regardless
answered the questions and after about 20 minutes
of sitting out in this parking lot with all of
them i was told that i wasn't breaking any laws
which i figured i wasn't being in the hotel parking
lot But it was good to get confirmation and and
the officer encouraged me to go up the road about
a half mile away from The hotel and the office
office park area Throughout the rest of the weekend
a bunch of us went out to the hotel parking lot
and operated in one time they had a half a dozen
different stations operating from parking lots
and we were being watched by the NSA police,
but nobody ever came by to question us after
that first encounter. I explained why I was there,
had my symposium credential, and I'm sure they
could have confirmed with a hotel or a simple
Google search what was going on. So you get some,
some strange looks and, and, you know, that,
that does happen from time to time. I know Foxhunt
sometimes get out in a mall parking lot and here
comes the mall cop wanting to know what's going
on. So not NSA though. So you've got me beat
on that one. But this isn't the only time this
has happened, Patrick? Well, I've had encounters
with local police, municipal police, county sheriffs,
state police. Here in Arizona, if I'm near the
Mexican border, Border Patrol almost always stops
by. Even in the Organ Pipe National Monument
on the Mexican border, I've had Border Patrol,
County Sheriff, and the National Park Police
come by just to ask what's going on. And sometimes
I strike up a conversation with them because
maybe an uncle or grandfather of the officer
or the park ranger was a ham. And he knows something
about ham radio and one night a Border Patrol
officer asked me if I knew anything about programming
a Kenwood commercial VHF radio he bought off
eBay. And I told him I've never used Kenwood's
commercial equipment, but software for many of
the radios could be found online, programming
cables. You need to build one or also find them
on eBay. And he was happy that I could at least
point them back to, you know, online to find
answers to what he was looking for. Oh my goodness.
Well, you know, one of the things that I mentioned,
you know, was the whole Wimploda thing. And we
really didn't get too many crazy looks that I
heard about at least from Wimploda. But I figured
that would have been a prime opportunity for
it. It could have. For me, I was only at a Walmart
store. For the most part, I was only at a Walmart
store for 10, 15, 20 minutes or so, arrived before
the pass, worked the pass, and moved on. So I
wasn't loitering long enough to attract... Walmart
security mall cops or even the city police to
come out and wonder what I was doing. And I was
going through, I was in Phoenix and Mesa and
Scottsdale plus the Salt River Indian Reservation
that's next to Scottsdale. So I was in different
police jurisdictions, but I had no encounters
with any of them on that day. I visited eight,
I visited nine different Walmarts and made contact
from eight. Yeah, that was pretty impressive
you got the the Rover award there for for that
getting all those passes in The one weekend.
Well, let's that's you know, the right ends are
a few and far between but they make good stories
so we had that we had to put those in but but
You know normally, you know, we don't get too
many strange looks but Let's take this a little
bit in a different direction. What would you
suggest for somebody who's been operating some
satellites and just doing some of the FM Low
Earth orbit satellites and some of that, and
now they're ready to take on maybe the linear
satellites? What are your... suggestions for
making that transition from beginning to maybe
intermediate? Well, for operating FO -29 is probably
the easiest stepping stone into the linear satellites.
FO -29 uses uplink on two meters and a downlink
on 70 centimeters and of the linear satellites
that one lends itself well to operating with
a single radio like an FT -817, an FT -857, those
sorts of multi -band radios that are not designed
for satellite, but you can operate split VFO,
transmit on one frequency on two meters and tune
around on 70 centimeters to hear stations responding
to your CQ or QRZ calls. From there, It usually
involves getting a second radio as a downlink
receiver to really do well on the other satellites
where the uplink is on 70 centimeters and the
downlink is on 2 meters, which could be another
radio like an FT -817, an all -mode receiver.
The Kenwood THD -74 does very well for single
sideband downlinks. or a software defined receiver
hooked up to a laptop or tablet or perhaps a
mobile phone with SDR software. Lots of options.
Alright, well there's some good tips on doing
some of that portable operation and we want to
give you a chance to call in and ask some questions
and oh we've got more that we can talk about
too but we want to give you a chance to do that
so we're going to take a break here and when
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oh, here we go. We're going to try this again.
Let's see if we can get this call here. Hello.
Welcome to HamTalk Live. Hello. Hello, this is
RJ, W -I -7 -A -A. I had a question for Patrick.
Oh, very good. RJ, good evening. Patrick? Hi,
RJ. Hey, Patrick. Hello, RJ. I'm doing all right.
Go ahead, RJ, and ask your question. OK, you
already answered one of my questions. But my
next one is I was interested in trying to get
started doing APRS over ISS. And I wanted to
know if using a diamond or a comet small whip
antenna would work, or how that works compared
to the arrow antenna on a D72. A directional
antenna like an arrow or an elk would do better
to make best use of the 5 watts from your radio,
but if you're using a mobile whip, you probably
would want something closer to a quarter wave
whip than one with lots of gain. With the gain
whips, you're losing some of the radiation pattern
and not as much of the signal as going up toward
the ISS or NO84, for example. where a quarter
wave is radiating all around including up and
you would have a better chance but with the five
watt radio your arrow or an elk or a homebrew
equivalent would you know if the directional
antenna would probably be a better option okay
um with the arrow what do you when you're doing
fm you're you know you kind of have that audio
feedback of hearing someone Are you getting a
signal back that you can follow easily when you're
using a directional antenna? For the ISS, for
APRS? Correct. With that, you're getting a signal
when your radio stops transmitting, you should
be hearing a signal coming back from the ISS
that's easy to hear. OK. NO84 is not as strong
as the ISS. everything on those those two digipeders
is simplex. So you're either transmitting or
receiving and full duplex isn't really an option
in that case. But the ISS is easy to hear. You
could hear it with a rubber duck antenna, but
you would do better to be heard by using the
directional antenna. Very good. Well, thank you
for the info and thanks for all the help in the
past and Thanks for another good podcast. And
thanks for your trips. I've worked you a lot
in the last few months. Good to hear relatively
new operators take the portable operating on
the road like you've done. Thanks, RJ. Well,
thank you. It's been a blast. Thank you too,
RJ. I appreciate you calling in and appreciate
some of the contacts. All righty. Thank you,
Neil. All right. Thanks a lot, RJ. 812 -638 -4261
is the phone number and we also have a couple
of tweets so let's see if we can get those in
here. N6UTC wants to know have you sent slow
scan television images through AO85 on experimenters
Wednesday and go latent orient. Uh, Leighton
Orient's an inside joke. It's an English soccer
club, uh, not in the, uh, top league that, that
he thinks I'm a supporter of. As for SSTV, I've
never, I've never transmitted it anywhere, HF
or satellite. Uh, I have tried copying it on
AO85 on some occasions, and when the ISS has
had the SSTV activities, uh, I will copy and
decode the pictures. but I've not transmitted
it myself. All right. Very good. And, uh, let's
see, Brett, W Y seven B G says, be sure to mention
bark fast in Logamont, Colorado this weekend.
Big swap meat. So yeah, uh, we've got, uh, the
Hoosier Hills, uh, ham fest down in Bedford,
uh, coming up in Bedford, Indiana this weekend.
And, uh, So yeah, we can't get them all in, but
we got that one in, Brett, so there you go. And
WI4T, I had a solid copy in EM27. Okay, very
good. Well, we've got some tweets in here. Let's
see, I think we're caught up on those. So eight
one two six three eight four two six one is the
phone number if you'd like to call in we have
the line open now so give us a call and Where
I was headed Before we got the call was not only
have you traveled? In the united states and north
america but you've actually traveled to australia
and as well as mexico and canada to do some.
Satellite contact so talk a little bit about
the trip to australia and one thing that i'm
wondering is we talked about the law enforcement
stuff how do you how did you deal with. Packing
the gear and getting the gear onto the plane
and and getting through all the security and
all that kind of thing Well, the rate the radios
I carry the radios in an old laptop bag the two
ft -817s handhelds and other Accessories that
I can take on to a plane go in that bag and then
my antenna and anything else That's not suitable
for the passenger cabin goes in a check suitcase
And going to Australia was no problem with the
equipment. Australia had just joined the European
CEPT licensing system in 2010, so that meant
I could operate there without applying for an
Australian license and call sign. That had just
started in the months before I went there myself,
so operating was simple. The airport was... was
nothing. They didn't even x -ray my bags that
I carried through customs. They just looked at
me and waved me through and I proceeded to operate
from a few locations around Melbourne and a couple
of places around Sydney while I was in Australia
in 2011. Okay, very good. 812 -638 -4261 is the
phone number and then what about Getting across
the border at Mexico and of course, you've got
your Canadian license. So that probably helps
a little bit there Actually, I've never had to
show ham licenses going into Canada or Mexico
the Canadians I've offered to show them my licenses
at the border crossings and they're not interested.
I have been pulled aside for secondary inspection
and they'll see the radio gear, but when I tell
them I'm an amateur radio operator licensed in
Canada and in the US, that's been the extent
of my interaction about radio. Once I get away
from the border, I've never had any problems
operating around Ontario or British Columbia.
other than the electrical noise on the power
lines in Ontario. They are noisy. British Columbia,
I even drove up and down Vancouver Island for
part of a trip in 2010. I spent several days
on the island and then several days driving from
Vancouver to other parts of British Columbia
operating and sightseeing. And that was fun.
Never had an encounter with Mounties or local
police or anything law enforcement in Canada.
Mexico, same thing, except there I've operated
when Mexican army patrols have gone by and the
soldiers, if they do anything, it's just a wave
as they are passing by in their vehicles. They
don't even bother to stop seeing a car from the
U .S. with people holding antennas playing radio
out in the middle of a dry lake bed. Maybe they
know what I'm doing. But you know never a problem
and getting across the border I haven't done
that in a few years in Mexico because I can't
get a permit in Mexico anymore as a foreigner
So I haven't bothered taking equipment across
in many years Okay, very good 812 -638 -4261
is the phone number or you can tweet us or at
ham talk live on Twitter we have a few minutes
left with Patrick this evening, so If you have
a question about portable operations, give us
a call at 812 -638 -4261. So we talked a little
bit about the Walmart parking lots on the air
when PLOTA, and you were able to manage nine
different sites, I believe, during the first
when Pluto weekend, did you come up with a certain
strategy for getting all those in? The strategy
was looking at passes and having the Walmart
store locator map up in a browser and engaging
the time between passes versus the distances
between stores. And then that's how I was able
to make my big loop through Phoenix. where I
didn't have as many passes in the mid morning,
but by midday, I had passes coming, you know,
several of them, one right after the other, you
know, within 20, 30, 40 minutes. So I just planned
it. So I was out in the east end of the Phoenix
metropolitan area where on one street, there's
a Walmart store every two miles. So I knew I
could... you know, make that drive in a few minutes,
get set up and wait for the next pass. And I
just ran out of stations to work on the ninth
pass. It was a very low pass in Phoenix and only
Californians would have been in the footprint
except nobody was there. Otherwise I would have
had contacts from nine different stores that
morning and afternoon. But it was fun. It was
roving like I've done around the desert. California,
Nevada, New Mexico, except I'm doing it within
Metropolitan Phoenix. You know, the same idea
is just, you know, going, you know, going much
more rapidly between spots instead of spending
a couple of hours in any one place. Well, it
was fun watching you, uh, go from, from one to
another. And, uh, it was a, it was a fun event.
So hopefully, uh, well, we'll do that again someday.
812 -638 -4261 is the phone number and I hope
I'm not putting you on the spot here because
this is not something we discussed, but I know
that Fox One Cliff is ready to go. So what do
you know about the new bird that's getting ready
to go up? Well, Fox 1 Cliff is essentially a
twin of AO92 with the FM repeater. It also has
the optional 1 .2 GHz uplink that AMSAT can command
on, and I believe there's a camera on it too.
The main difference for the FM repeater is the
automatic frequency control. The AFC circuit
is not present on Fox 1 Cliff, so stations will
need to tune the uplink to Fox One Cliff from
start to finish and not rely on the AFC circuit
to reduce the tuning work for the uplink. Otherwise,
it should sound just like working AO91, AO92,
AO85, and hopefully hear very well those of us
on the ground using the portable equipment, low
power and so on. So what I read was that Jerry's
turned it over to Be launched and now we're just
got to sit back and and wait for a rocket We
just have to wait for the launch and once launched,
you know wait for stations on the ground to hear
it transmit it's usually you know 30 to 60 minutes
after it's deployed from the launcher and Then
AMSAT will do its testing to verify that everything
is working before opening it up to the rest of
us to use. AMSAT's had good practice with that
in the last couple years. And like with AO -92,
there is a lot to test with FOX -1 Cliff. The
FM repeater with the different uplinks, the camera
should be fun. All right. Well, we'll look forward
to it. Whenever they can get that one launched,
we'll definitely be watching for it. All right.
Well, we're just about out of time here. Let's
check the Twitter here and see if we have missed
anything. You don't want to leave anybody out,
but I think we're about to finish up here this
evening. But if you have a last minute question,
give us a call at 812 -638 -4261. And yeah, Patrick,
if you've got something else that you need to
throw in here, go right ahead. Sure. Sure. Out
here, since it's so hot in the desert in the
summertime, most of the ham fest start up in
the fall. And I will do my thing going out to
ham fest around Arizona starting late in October,
where I will have an AMSAT booth or table and
I'll do demonstrations. And the first one of
those is on the 27th of October in Maricopa,
which is south of Phoenix. The Maricopa Amateur
Radio Association has their CopaFest then. But
I also want to mention that on December 15th,
we just got clearance for this. I and a couple
of others will be operating satellites from the
deck of the Queen Mary in Long Beach using the
Queen Mary's amateur called W6RO on the 15th
of December. We'll be operating FM, single -side
band, if the packet digipeders are available.
We'll be making contacts through the ISS or NO84
or Falcon Sat -3 using the W6RO call. Long Beach
is in grid DM03, which isn't terribly rare, but
W6RO hasn't been on satellites very much for
a long time. And this will be all portable operation
out on one of the decks on that Saturday. Very
good. One of my favorite QSL cards from when
I was a kid was from them. Got them on HF and
it was a pretty impressive card at the time.
So I'm well familiar with the Queen Mary out
there. So congratulations on getting that squared
away and look forward to hearing you from out
there. And hope to hear you and others too. I
operated from the Queen Mary's wireless room
when they still had the satellite equipment installed
in 2016, was it? Made three contacts on a single
AO7 pass, but this is intended to be a day -long
activity on that Saturday, working whatever passes
are available in the different modes, all done
portable. And with thanks to the... Associated
radio amateurs of Long Beach who operate the
radio room on the Queen Mary and the Queen Mary
management for allowing this to happen. Yeah,
always nice to have those opportunities and great
to hear about that one coming up on December
15th, correct? That's correct. Okay, very good.
Well, we're going to wrap things up here tonight,
but Patrick, thanks so much for coming on, taking
some time to give us some traveling stories on
your portable operations and some tips on how
to do some of that. And we hope that you're not
stopped by the mall cops again. That's probably
wishful thinking, but thanks. All right. Well,
that's a wrap for this week's edition. of HamTalk
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