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I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.340 Thanks for tuning in to this episode of HamTalk 00:01:59.340 --> 00:02:02.739 Live. Tonight we're joined by Jim Wilson, K5ND. 00:02:03.260 --> 00:02:07.640 and Bill Stern's NE4RD, and we'll take your calls 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:12.460 live in just a few minutes. Last week here on 00:02:12.460 --> 00:02:16.379 The Big Show, Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK, was here 00:02:16.379 --> 00:02:19.460 to talk about operating portable with satellites. 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.120 And if you missed that, you can still listen 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:26.879 anytime at HamTalkLive .com or on our podcast 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:30.509 version. It's on Apple Podcast Stitcher. I heart 00:02:30.509 --> 00:02:34.250 podcasts, Google play, tune in SoundCloud or 00:02:34.250 --> 00:02:36.650 whatever your favorite app is. It's probably 00:02:36.650 --> 00:02:40.969 there. It's also available on YouTube. 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Be sure to visit icomamerica .com slash 00:07:38.379 --> 00:07:43.139 amateur for more information on radios. A flashlight 00:07:43.139 --> 00:07:46.620 is a case for holding dead batteries. Now here's 00:07:46.620 --> 00:08:07.480 Neil Rapp with more HamTalk Live. Thanks to ICOM 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.019 for sponsoring the show again tonight. We'll 00:08:10.019 --> 00:08:12.540 be talking about their involvement in scouting 00:08:12.540 --> 00:08:17.259 here a little bit later. And we're here on the 00:08:17.259 --> 00:08:20.160 show every Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:24.199 Time right here at HamTalkLive .com. And joining 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:28.680 us tonight, Jim Wilson, K5ND. He's retired from 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.019 the Boy Scouts of America headquarters where 00:08:31.019 --> 00:08:34.059 he spent 21 years in publishing and communications 00:08:34.059 --> 00:08:37.659 and now he's a freelance writer and continues 00:08:37.659 --> 00:08:40.500 to volunteer as chairman of the National Radio 00:08:40.500 --> 00:08:43.580 Scouting Committee, National Jamboree on the 00:08:43.580 --> 00:08:46.600 Air Organizer, and a member of the World Jota 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.759 and Jody team. He's president of the K2BSA Amateur 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:53.480 Radio Association and you can check them out 00:08:53.480 --> 00:09:00.450 at K2BSA .net. and over 172 ,000 scouts have 00:09:00.450 --> 00:09:04.710 earned the radio merit badge and therefore formally 00:09:04.710 --> 00:09:09.970 exposed to amateur radio. Bill Stearns is a self 00:09:09.970 --> 00:09:14.029 -proclaimed nerd, enough so that he made his 00:09:14.029 --> 00:09:18.330 call sign NE4RD, and I couldn't be more proud. 00:09:18.769 --> 00:09:23.230 He was originally licensed in 1994 at the Melbourne 00:09:23.230 --> 00:09:28.269 Hamfest in Florida, which I was just at Melbourne 00:09:28.269 --> 00:09:35.169 here a few months ago as KE4RGH. He was an active 00:09:35.169 --> 00:09:37.190 member of Civil Air Patrol and past president 00:09:37.190 --> 00:09:39.549 of the Amateur Radio Association of Southwest 00:09:39.549 --> 00:09:42.669 Florida. And while in Florida he was active in 00:09:42.669 --> 00:09:45.750 contesting satellites and VHF, he's now in Billings, 00:09:45.850 --> 00:09:49.049 Montana. with his wife and three children. He's 00:09:49.049 --> 00:09:53.350 a life member of ARRL and K2BSA, and he's active 00:09:53.350 --> 00:09:56.289 in stateside contesting with the Big Sky Contestors 00:09:56.289 --> 00:10:00.509 Club and Sky Warren with the Yellowstone County 00:10:00.509 --> 00:10:04.269 Ares Group. And he's a software and systems engineer, 00:10:04.509 --> 00:10:07.769 podcaster, and generally a nerdy guy. You can 00:10:07.769 --> 00:10:11.850 find him on the Linux in the Hamshack podcast, 00:10:11.889 --> 00:10:15.909 where he's been a co -host since May 2016. and 00:10:15.909 --> 00:10:19.669 also reporting on radio scouting on amateur radio 00:10:19.669 --> 00:10:23.769 news line, which means I get to listen to him 00:10:23.769 --> 00:10:28.070 multiple times in a week. So we had to pick on 00:10:28.070 --> 00:10:30.169 Bill a little bit, but Jim and Bill, welcome 00:10:30.169 --> 00:10:34.009 to the show. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. It's 00:10:34.009 --> 00:10:36.529 very good. We appreciate you having us on the 00:10:36.529 --> 00:10:42.029 show. So, so Bill, we're going to try to, we're 00:10:42.029 --> 00:10:46.259 going to try to keep you awake here. We were 00:10:46.259 --> 00:10:50.340 joking around that one of the things on the Linux 00:10:50.340 --> 00:10:53.639 and the Hamshack podcast was a long time ago 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:58.080 before all these podcasts were around. Bill made 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:00.100 the comment that it was the only podcast that 00:11:00.100 --> 00:11:02.360 didn't put him to sleep. So we're going to try 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:06.299 not to, uh, to do that, but you're getting two 00:11:06.299 --> 00:11:09.679 weeks in a row on the show now. Yeah. Yeah. I'll 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:11.419 be here for two weeks. I'm not going to be like 00:11:11.419 --> 00:11:16.960 a permanent staple here. So we'll, uh, we'll 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.539 talk a little Lennox next week, but, uh, this 00:11:19.539 --> 00:11:23.740 week we're talking Jota. So Jim, what's coming 00:11:23.740 --> 00:11:29.000 up with this year's Jota. Okay. Well, it's, uh, 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:33.440 this is the 61st, uh, uh, Jambri on the air. 00:11:33.740 --> 00:11:38.830 It started in 1957. After the world jamboree 00:11:38.830 --> 00:11:41.509 that was held in England and the ham radio operators 00:11:41.509 --> 00:11:45.450 got together over a coffee and said This was 00:11:45.450 --> 00:11:49.009 fun. Why don't we do it every year rather than 00:11:49.009 --> 00:11:52.250 every four years at a world jamboree? And so 00:11:52.250 --> 00:11:55.909 that's what they did And it's the it's always 00:11:55.909 --> 00:11:59.330 the third weekend in October This year, it's 00:11:59.330 --> 00:12:03.950 the 19th to the 21st of October. So that's Friday 00:12:03.950 --> 00:12:09.399 Saturday and Sunday local time, so it's not like 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:15.600 a contest where at 000 hours UTC it starts. It 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:21.100 starts local time and just get on the air and 00:12:21.100 --> 00:12:24.240 start making conversations with other scouts. 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:29.840 Let's talk a little bit first about how scouts 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:33.460 and scout leaders can Participate in this and 00:12:33.460 --> 00:12:36.240 then we'll talk about just the the general ham 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:41.080 community. So so first what about the scouts? 00:12:42.340 --> 00:12:46.500 The scouts can for for Jambri on the air they 00:12:46.500 --> 00:12:51.080 can reach out to a local ham radio club or a 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:56.460 ham operator I always recommend that particularly 00:12:56.460 --> 00:12:59.299 for ham operators that want to get engaged that 00:12:59.299 --> 00:13:02.460 they start at the troop level or at the pack 00:13:02.460 --> 00:13:05.639 level. A lot of guys try to start at the... at 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:08.399 the bigger council level and it's really hard 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:13.059 to get things going there. In fact, I look over 00:13:13.059 --> 00:13:16.659 some of the local councils and they have a lot 00:13:16.659 --> 00:13:20.840 going on in September and October. It's a big 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:23.919 time in scouting. It's starting up. The scouting 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.480 year is starting up. They're raising funds. They're 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:30.600 selling popcorn. They're having their camperees 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:35.649 while the weather is still okay. It's good to 00:13:35.649 --> 00:13:41.289 line up with a troop. So scouts can, ideally 00:13:41.289 --> 00:13:44.549 their council is doing some promotion work about 00:13:44.549 --> 00:13:48.210 all the events in the council. Here in my own 00:13:48.210 --> 00:13:51.570 council, in the Longhorn Council, I've started 00:13:51.570 --> 00:13:54.669 helping them out through their international 00:13:54.669 --> 00:13:58.090 committee. This is part of the international 00:13:58.090 --> 00:14:01.490 area within scouting because it's a world event. 00:14:02.990 --> 00:14:06.549 We have 11 different operations in the Fort Worth, 00:14:06.549 --> 00:14:12.029 Texas area, and first we've discovered all the 00:14:12.029 --> 00:14:15.350 ones that are going on and facilitated a few, 00:14:15.629 --> 00:14:18.549 and then we publish, here's what's going on, 00:14:18.629 --> 00:14:21.330 here's where you can go to get engaged with Jambri 00:14:21.330 --> 00:14:26.059 on the Air. So, I guess that's one way to do 00:14:26.059 --> 00:14:30.240 it, is look to your local council, particularly 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:34.379 the international representative of your council, 00:14:34.980 --> 00:14:38.460 who's in charge of Jambria on the air, Jambria 00:14:38.460 --> 00:14:41.879 on the internet, although I will admit that some 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:45.519 of them don't realize that, and also some councils 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:47.820 don't have international representatives. So, 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:55.620 it can get a bit challenging. Let's see, the 00:14:55.620 --> 00:15:00.539 other way to do that is the website jodajody 00:15:00.539 --> 00:15:07.700 .info has a sign up system where scout units 00:15:07.700 --> 00:15:11.139 can sign up and say, we're gonna be on the air 00:15:11.139 --> 00:15:15.460 at this place and give all the details about 00:15:15.460 --> 00:15:18.759 their operation. Well, all those are listed and 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.330 so you can do a search. Uh, you can search on 00:15:22.330 --> 00:15:24.809 the United States. You can search on your state 00:15:24.809 --> 00:15:28.669 or your city. Uh, and, and, uh, although it's 00:15:28.669 --> 00:15:30.909 certainly not foolproof, hopefully you can find 00:15:30.909 --> 00:15:34.490 something there and, and, uh, and start, uh, 00:15:34.490 --> 00:15:38.289 you know, start, um, uh, start the search for 00:15:38.289 --> 00:15:42.889 where it's really happening. All right. Very 00:15:42.889 --> 00:15:45.789 good. Now, um, let's throw it over to, uh, bill 00:15:45.789 --> 00:15:50.710 here for a minute. Um, what about the. Non scout. 00:15:50.730 --> 00:15:53.509 What about the hams that just want to participate 00:15:53.509 --> 00:15:56.710 by getting on the air? What what's the advice 00:15:56.710 --> 00:16:00.529 to them? Absolutely, you know, there's going 00:16:00.529 --> 00:16:03.610 to be a lot of opportunity to to work scouts 00:16:03.610 --> 00:16:05.850 and scout groups that are out there activating 00:16:05.850 --> 00:16:09.669 these stations, especially with these, you know, 00:16:09.750 --> 00:16:12.210 meager HF conditions we've been having. There's 00:16:12.210 --> 00:16:14.049 going to be a lot of groups trying to get on 00:16:14.049 --> 00:16:16.750 the air and make contacts that might not necessarily 00:16:16.750 --> 00:16:20.070 make a DX contact. So you just need to tune your 00:16:20.070 --> 00:16:22.570 band up to like the general portion of all the 00:16:22.570 --> 00:16:26.570 HF bands as an amateur and listen for CQ Jota. 00:16:26.929 --> 00:16:33.470 You'll also find scout groups on PSK 31 and RIDI 00:16:33.470 --> 00:16:36.149 and probably this new thing called JS8 call. 00:16:36.590 --> 00:16:38.769 I've already seen several groups saying they're 00:16:38.769 --> 00:16:41.850 going to try experimenting with that as a method 00:16:41.850 --> 00:16:44.350 to get on the air. So they'll be looking for 00:16:44.350 --> 00:16:48.019 contacts and basically to get scouts to talk 00:16:48.019 --> 00:16:52.159 to other people through amateur radio and If 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.620 you can't get out to help a scout group via your 00:16:55.620 --> 00:16:59.480 club or a local council trooper pack or crew 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.860 You know by all means, you know sit in the chair 00:17:02.860 --> 00:17:05.720 sit in the club station You know tune the band 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:08.579 up there to the general portion and start looking 00:17:08.579 --> 00:17:12.319 for these groups call in CQ Jota and Help them 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:14.640 help them work and understand how amateur radio 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:19.799 works Anything to add, Jim? Well, I would point 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:25.319 out that on the k2bsa .net website under radio 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:28.900 scouting, there's a listing of recommended scout 00:17:28.900 --> 00:17:33.259 frequencies. And so for each band and each mode, 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:36.819 there are designated frequencies. The one that 00:17:36.819 --> 00:17:40.599 comes to mind is 20 meters single sideband. 14 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:45.920 .290. But while I say that, that's a place to 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:50.559 call, but it's not the place to stay. And you 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:53.619 wanna move off that frequency, and it's also, 00:17:54.819 --> 00:17:58.400 I've heard this in the past, people say, well, 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:00.680 I looked at the frequency, it was always busy, 00:18:00.740 --> 00:18:03.319 and so I didn't get to make any contacts. Oh, 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.200 for goodness sakes, turn the knob on your radio 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.740 and go someplace else. Yeah, or scroll the mouse. 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:13.019 We're a modern amateur radio now. We have the 00:18:13.019 --> 00:18:15.980 mouse scroll. Or the touch screen. Yeah, push 00:18:15.980 --> 00:18:20.099 the touch screen. But call CQ, better yet, get 00:18:20.099 --> 00:18:23.819 a scout on there with that higher voice, that 00:18:23.819 --> 00:18:27.980 higher octave voice calling CQ. It's very distinctive 00:18:27.980 --> 00:18:31.660 and people will tune into it. And for those, 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:35.779 just as Bill was mentioning, It doesn't have 00:18:35.779 --> 00:18:37.839 to be another scout group. If they're calling 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:40.960 CQ for a long time and nobody's responding, please 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:45.859 respond and talk to them about what pack they're 00:18:45.859 --> 00:18:48.799 in, what city they're in, what they're doing 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.359 in scouting, what they like about scouting. Tell 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:56.000 them you earned the radio merit badge in 1956 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:00.779 or so, whatever. Because it's a lot of fun to 00:19:00.779 --> 00:19:03.980 make those connections and it's so helpful on 00:19:03.980 --> 00:19:07.240 the other side. They're out there patiently searching 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.920 and growing a little frustrated. They got 20 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.200 Cub Scouts that are squirming behind them going, 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:17.940 what's up with this? This is no good. And so 00:19:17.940 --> 00:19:20.480 you need somebody on the other end of the QSO. 00:19:21.740 --> 00:19:25.160 All right, yeah, that's always important to have 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:27.720 somebody available to talk to instead of sitting 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:31.180 there and spinning the knob or scrolling the 00:19:31.180 --> 00:19:34.759 mouse or punching around on the touchscreen so 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:40.279 That's a good advice Now we've got to make sure 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:44.519 to get you both off of this program on time tonight 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:48.650 because you actually have a net coming up right 00:19:48.650 --> 00:19:54.559 after we get done, so tell us about that. It's 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:59.539 the the USA radio scouting net and it's at 9 00:19:59.539 --> 00:20:04.380 p .m. Central or 10 p .m. Eastern Etc in the 00:20:04.380 --> 00:20:07.740 time zones. It's on echo link on the conference 00:20:07.740 --> 00:20:16.880 server J o ta -365 and Chris Overbay W a5dm is 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:19.480 the net control and we have a pretty good turnout. 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:23.839 It's once a month on the whatever Thursday this 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:28.649 is of the of the month. Is it the third? Second 00:20:28.649 --> 00:20:33.869 Thursday, okay. And so, and we get a good turnout, 00:20:34.069 --> 00:20:37.309 and a lot of people just trading information 00:20:37.309 --> 00:20:39.710 about here's what I'm planning for Jambri on 00:20:39.710 --> 00:20:43.109 the air, or next month it'll be here's what went 00:20:43.109 --> 00:20:46.190 right, here's what didn't go right, and this 00:20:46.190 --> 00:20:49.910 month it'll be a lot of good questions about 00:20:49.910 --> 00:20:53.990 as they're getting ready to activate their stations. 00:20:55.109 --> 00:20:58.250 Okay, so some more information on this after 00:20:58.250 --> 00:21:04.890 the show just hop on that Jota 365 echo link 00:21:04.890 --> 00:21:08.890 server and Check that out after we get done here 00:21:08.890 --> 00:21:13.509 on ham talk live tonight now. I know you've got 00:21:13.509 --> 00:21:21.450 a series of K2 BSA portable whatever call district 00:21:21.450 --> 00:21:26.740 planned out Maybe we'll throw this to Bill, because 00:21:26.740 --> 00:21:31.920 I know you ran those down on Newsline here last 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:36.559 week, I think it was. So tell us about the K2BSA 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:41.140 call signs that are going to be used next weekend. 00:21:42.660 --> 00:21:46.740 Yeah, absolutely. We of course have every call 00:21:46.740 --> 00:21:49.539 district except for the zero call district reserved 00:21:49.539 --> 00:21:51.960 in our calendar, at least as far as I can tell 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.740 right now. But what we do is we actually allow 00:21:54.740 --> 00:21:58.299 people and scout groups to uh to reserve the 00:21:58.299 --> 00:22:01.619 call sign k2 bsa in their calling area to run 00:22:01.619 --> 00:22:05.279 a portable operation And of course, you know, 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.279 what's the best event to have that call sign 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.960 at? You know the the jamboree jamboree on the 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:13.740 air So it's always always a fight to get that 00:22:13.740 --> 00:22:16.759 reservation in early and reserve it. So right 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:20.619 now we have uh Yeah, like ktbs a one portable 00:22:20.619 --> 00:22:22.720 one is gonna be out of Lennox, Massachusetts 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.339 with troop 8 We have ktbs a 2 is gonna be out 00:22:26.339 --> 00:22:29.519 of May's Landing in New Jersey ktbs a 3 is gonna 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:32.900 be over in Old Town, Maryland Ktbs a 4 is gonna 00:22:32.900 --> 00:22:36.180 be in Charlotte, North Carolina Portable 5 is 00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:39.279 gonna be in Louisville, Texas Portable 6 is gonna 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:41.920 be in Idlewild, California. That should be a 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:43.880 that should be a big one They normally have a 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:46.359 huge turnout for that that particular event there 00:22:47.109 --> 00:22:49.750 Portable 7 is going to be in Bremerton, Washington 00:22:49.750 --> 00:22:52.509 portable 8 is going to be over at a fall campery 00:22:52.509 --> 00:22:56.210 in Wheeling, West Virginia and Portable 9 is 00:22:56.210 --> 00:23:00.009 in North Liberty, Indiana. So that's what I see 00:23:00.009 --> 00:23:02.670 here in the calendar so far. Those call signs 00:23:02.670 --> 00:23:06.069 should be active for the entire weekend. So definitely 00:23:06.069 --> 00:23:09.329 be on the lookout for for any of the KTBSA portable 00:23:09.329 --> 00:23:13.690 calls and if you're in the zero call area and 00:23:13.690 --> 00:23:17.099 you all one for the weekend of. Yeah for the 00:23:17.099 --> 00:23:19.720 jamboree on the air, this is the time to go ahead 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:21.559 and send in that reservation and you can do that 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:25.680 at our website at k2bsa .net. Well mentioned 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:32.039 too in the past we've had KL7 and KH6 use the 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:35.819 K2BSA call sign and I'll also point out that 00:23:35.819 --> 00:23:40.890 we get a lot of uh... requests that where the 00:23:40.890 --> 00:23:44.130 call sign is already been reserved uh... we really 00:23:44.130 --> 00:23:48.730 can't have uh... three k two b s a slash fours 00:23:48.730 --> 00:23:52.150 out there as an example but uh... so what i always 00:23:52.150 --> 00:23:55.250 recommend is go look at the one by one call signs 00:23:55.250 --> 00:23:57.890 so there's a lot of stations that act that they 00:23:57.890 --> 00:24:01.549 go ahead and reserve you know k four s or something 00:24:01.549 --> 00:24:05.130 like that for the weekend and of course i'm told 00:24:05.130 --> 00:24:08.339 not i've never done the research on this but 00:24:08.339 --> 00:24:13.279 most of the call signs that involve BSA are already 00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:17.660 reserved for clubs that support that are part 00:24:17.660 --> 00:24:20.940 of scouting including you know call signs like 00:24:20.940 --> 00:24:27.380 KB4SA and so there you'll see a lot of BSA call 00:24:27.380 --> 00:24:30.039 signs on the air during Jamboree on the air. 00:24:31.349 --> 00:24:34.009 All right. Well that's coming up soon. And again, 00:24:34.009 --> 00:24:36.470 if you're out there in the zero call district, 00:24:36.470 --> 00:24:41.509 uh, we may, we may have a spot for you. So, uh, 00:24:41.670 --> 00:24:46.230 get on the website, ktbsa .net and, uh, and maybe 00:24:46.230 --> 00:24:48.869 you can, uh, you can finish off all the, the 00:24:48.869 --> 00:24:52.329 call districts there. Well, it is time for a 00:24:52.329 --> 00:24:54.049 break, but we're going to come back. We're going 00:24:54.049 --> 00:24:57.349 to take your calls. And we've got all kinds of 00:24:57.349 --> 00:24:59.150 other stuff we can talk about, but we'll give 00:24:59.150 --> 00:25:05.390 you a chance to chime in at 812 -638 -4261 right 00:25:05.390 --> 00:25:07.690 after this word from Tower Electronics right 00:25:07.690 --> 00:25:12.170 here on HamTalk Live. Hey, honey, have you seen 00:25:12.170 --> 00:25:17.029 the PL 259s anywhere? No, I haven't. Come on, 00:25:17.309 --> 00:25:22.400 kids. 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So if you have a question 00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:06.059 for Jim or Bill, give us a call at 812 -NET -HAM 00:28:06.059 --> 00:28:13.920 -1 812 -638 -4261 or you can Skype us at HamTalk 00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:20.140 Live on Skype. Also, you can tweet us at HamTalk 00:28:20.140 --> 00:28:24.180 Live and we've got a ton of notes here of things 00:28:24.180 --> 00:28:26.299 to talk about, so we'll keep talking but you 00:28:26.299 --> 00:28:30.779 go ahead and call. We'll get you in here. First 00:28:30.779 --> 00:28:34.079 off, Jim, let's talk a little bit about some 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:40.759 of the D -Star and DMR options here and some 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:44.279 other things that are going on on the bands at 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.700 the same time that people need to be aware of. 00:28:48.900 --> 00:28:52.680 All right, yeah. Let's see, I'm pulling up the 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.819 k2bsa .net website right now, and under the radio 00:28:56.819 --> 00:29:01.279 scouting menu, there is a tab called Scout Frequencies. 00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.940 And if you scan down that, it shows up, you know, 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.799 80 meters, 40 meters, et cetera, for a single 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:15.589 sideband, CW, PSK. but there's also reflector 00:29:15.589 --> 00:29:20.390 033A is a full -time radio scouting and jamboree 00:29:20.390 --> 00:29:25.829 on the air D star reflector. There's also DMR. 00:29:26.569 --> 00:29:29.029 There's some, I'm trying to look here if there's 00:29:29.029 --> 00:29:34.930 some talk groups. Talk group 310. Okay, talk 00:29:34.930 --> 00:29:39.869 group 310. Brandmeister also has a talk group 00:29:39.869 --> 00:29:47.099 907. I don't operate D -Star, excuse me, DMR, 00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:51.400 I'm a D -Star guy. But there's a lot of activity 00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:55.019 on both of those, and the good news is there's 00:29:55.019 --> 00:29:59.140 no propagation involved, where the sun is not 00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:04.259 our friend these days. I see an All -Star node 00:30:04.259 --> 00:30:10.440 number, IRLP, is also available. Echolink has 00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:16.349 two conference nodes, Jota -365, where our net 00:30:16.349 --> 00:30:21.049 will be going on later this evening, and Jambo 00:30:21.049 --> 00:30:25.130 is a node that actually Bill Stearns created 00:30:25.130 --> 00:30:29.329 to help us out. Jota -365 was getting very crowded 00:30:29.329 --> 00:30:33.150 on Jambri on the air weekend, and so he added 00:30:33.150 --> 00:30:39.640 another one. So, anything else there, Bill? Now 00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:41.740 that all looks all right. Yeah, plus so you can 00:30:41.740 --> 00:30:45.200 also make contacts on a PRS and pack it and everything 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.460 else So don't be afraid to try try everything 00:30:48.460 --> 00:30:52.000 and anything to to go ahead and create some jamboree 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:57.680 on the air traffic Okay, and and Jim let's while 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.400 we're talking about D star and that kind of thing 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:05.619 let's take a moment to To talk about your partnership 00:31:05.619 --> 00:31:12.400 with icon Exactly, ICOM America is a tremendous 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:17.619 supporter of radio scouting, Jamboree on the 00:31:17.619 --> 00:31:22.740 air and our Jamborees. I recall just a quick 00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:29.559 story back in 2011, 2012. I called up Ray Novak 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:31.980 and I said, Ray, I know you've been helping with 00:31:31.980 --> 00:31:34.720 Jamborees and loaning some equipment, but I want 00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.920 you to give the equipment this time around. And 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:42.799 the phone was silent and I thought, uh -oh. But 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:46.480 as Ray always does, he was thinking about 20 00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:48.720 steps ahead of me. And he said, I don't want 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.660 to wait to the jamboree. I want to start right 00:31:51.660 --> 00:31:57.339 now. And what he cooked up was 10 complete stations 00:31:57.339 --> 00:32:01.640 for loan to local scout councils. And that started, 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.920 I think it was 2012, they started with IC 7200s, 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.660 antennas, power supplies, the whole nine yards 00:32:09.660 --> 00:32:12.960 in Pelican cases. Now they've been upgraded to 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:17.319 IC 7300s, that great direct conversion radio. 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:20.859 And they're out, they'll be on the air, this 00:32:20.859 --> 00:32:24.279 jamboree on the air from a lot of scout councils 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:30.740 around the US. And they also are the... the transceiver 00:32:30.740 --> 00:32:35.799 sponsor for Jamborees, that was 2013 -2017, and 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.940 it will be at the World Scout Jamboree in 2019. 00:32:39.679 --> 00:32:45.240 And they also installed three repeaters at the 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.759 summit, Bechtel Scout Reserve in West Virginia, 00:32:48.180 --> 00:32:52.140 where the Jamborees are held. A two meter analog 00:32:52.140 --> 00:32:58.099 repeater, a 440 analog, and a 440 D -Star repeater. 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.240 So they've been extraordinary partners to us. 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.220 And we're talking to them now about a big promotion 00:33:05.220 --> 00:33:11.079 campaign to get Hams on the air to work the world 00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:15.200 jamborees so that we can, just like we were talking 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.259 here, we need somebody on the other end of the 00:33:17.259 --> 00:33:21.259 QSO and ICOM is going to help us beat the drum 00:33:21.259 --> 00:33:27.339 and get Hams activated for that. So we're incredibly 00:33:27.339 --> 00:33:32.859 blessed with the support that Ray Novak and all 00:33:32.859 --> 00:33:38.369 the people at ICOM do for radio scouting. Very 00:33:38.369 --> 00:33:41.509 good. We're very appreciative of all that ICOM 00:33:41.509 --> 00:33:46.349 does for Ham Radio and particularly the scouting 00:33:46.349 --> 00:33:50.890 part of things. So if you would like to get in 00:33:50.890 --> 00:33:54.150 the conversation here, give us a call. It's 812 00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:59.730 -638 -4261 that you call to join the conversation. 00:33:59.990 --> 00:34:03.930 That's 812 -NET -HAM -1 or you can... Tweet us 00:34:03.930 --> 00:34:07.250 as a couple of people did earlier in the week 00:34:07.250 --> 00:34:12.329 or you can Skype us to or ham talk live on there 00:34:12.329 --> 00:34:17.150 HR 1 erl or nestos wanted to know where to follow 00:34:17.150 --> 00:34:21.389 We weren't too sure if it was the show or jamboree 00:34:21.389 --> 00:34:24.329 on the air. The show is ham talk live comm but 00:34:25.369 --> 00:34:31.130 Tell us about the Joda and Jodi website and and 00:34:31.130 --> 00:34:37.909 of course k2bsa .net You bet there's Joda Jodi 00:34:37.909 --> 00:34:42.889 dot info is operated by the world Jambri on the 00:34:42.889 --> 00:34:46.789 air Jambri on the internet team and There's five 00:34:46.789 --> 00:34:52.940 of us on the team operating that site and It's 00:34:52.940 --> 00:34:55.719 where the sign up is, it's where all the information 00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:01.539 is about participating. And there's a fascinating 00:35:01.539 --> 00:35:05.519 new game there where you can actually enter. 00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:09.719 Just as you would at a real Jamboree. Go in the 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.280 main gate and go into the various aspects of 00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.300 the Jamboree. Also mentioned, Jamboree on the 00:35:17.300 --> 00:35:21.760 internet is an easy way to get involved. And 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:29.059 there's JOTI .TV where there's live TV going 00:35:29.059 --> 00:35:36.489 on. There's JOTI .Radio where or jotiradio .net 00:35:36.489 --> 00:35:39.730 or something like that, just do Google. Or is 00:35:39.730 --> 00:35:44.289 it org? Yeah, just jotiradio, Google it. But 00:35:44.289 --> 00:35:47.570 yeah, they're interviewing people and playing 00:35:47.570 --> 00:35:49.949 music all through the weekend. I'm actually going 00:35:49.949 --> 00:35:53.809 to be interviewed there about the world jamboree 00:35:53.809 --> 00:35:58.510 on Saturday. So that's a way to follow Skype. 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:03.980 Watch the social media, Facebook, Twitter. That's 00:36:03.980 --> 00:36:07.900 one of my tasks for the weekend is watching those 00:36:07.900 --> 00:36:11.980 social media channels and responding to the queries 00:36:11.980 --> 00:36:15.340 that come up. And also one of the things I do 00:36:15.340 --> 00:36:18.780 is I capture a lot of really cool photos. Watch 00:36:18.780 --> 00:36:23.500 for videos too on YouTube. One of my favorite 00:36:23.500 --> 00:36:27.039 activities is a Rube Goldberg machine. And so 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.780 scouts make up these machines and videotape them 00:36:29.780 --> 00:36:34.079 and post them. And they're just a blast to see 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.340 the really, really clever ones that they come 00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:40.719 up with. Lots of ways to participate in Jambri 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.920 on the air, Jambri on the internet. All right. 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.000 We do have a caller on the line, so let's see 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:51.159 who we have. Welcome to HamTalk Live. Good evening, 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:58.059 guys. It's Don, KV2YSI. Good evening, Don. What's 00:36:58.059 --> 00:37:02.380 your question here? I may have missed it, turned 00:37:02.380 --> 00:37:06.380 off the stream to call in, but was wondering 00:37:06.380 --> 00:37:09.280 if there's any more tips for someone that might 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:15.619 try doing their very first tambourine for a scout 00:37:15.619 --> 00:37:26.489 group. Yeah, sure there's a You just do it No, 00:37:27.110 --> 00:37:30.869 no, I did I've done it I've done my first one 00:37:30.869 --> 00:37:34.030 several times Because every time you do it, it's 00:37:34.030 --> 00:37:36.590 always different and depending upon the size 00:37:36.590 --> 00:37:40.730 of the group You know, I feel that you you can 00:37:40.730 --> 00:37:44.250 probably overplan it. I basically basically suggest 00:37:44.250 --> 00:37:48.619 just having the radios on and Introducing yourself 00:37:48.619 --> 00:37:51.519 to the the the visit your own troop that's coming 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:54.960 in or is it? Or is it just random troops that 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.599 are gonna be come visit you? I probably would 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:03.260 just try it for the group We just joined like 00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:07.179 a couple weeks ago. So Okay, so be familiar people. 00:38:07.179 --> 00:38:10.699 So yeah, yeah I would basically keep it simple 00:38:10.699 --> 00:38:12.559 and introduce them to amateur radio. Tell them 00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.239 all about the hobby and then And then slowly 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:18.699 get each one on the station. There is a complete 00:38:18.699 --> 00:38:22.139 operator's guide on our website, ktbsa .net, 00:38:22.219 --> 00:38:25.320 and it'll give you all kinds of hints and scripts 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.519 and stuff like that that the scouts can use when 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.539 they get on there and actually talk to people, 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.780 if you're going to do HF or DMR or D -Star or 00:38:32.780 --> 00:38:35.880 any of those. Simple question, especially if 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.159 they're younger, they might not know what to 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:41.380 say. We tend to find that the older scouts tend 00:38:41.380 --> 00:38:48.550 to wing it. Any time you get a kid on, whether 00:38:48.550 --> 00:38:52.070 it's scouts or in my situation at school or whatever, 00:38:52.809 --> 00:38:55.809 scripts are always a big help. So they know what 00:38:55.809 --> 00:38:58.250 to say. And then they can kind of, like you said, 00:38:58.409 --> 00:39:01.230 the older scouts may kind of ad lib their way 00:39:01.230 --> 00:39:04.530 through it and wing it. But some of them have 00:39:04.530 --> 00:39:07.050 a little mic fright. So having a script there 00:39:07.050 --> 00:39:10.230 and making sure everything is working properly 00:39:10.230 --> 00:39:13.300 so that there's not a lot of Fiddling around 00:39:13.300 --> 00:39:16.300 and dead time I think are a couple of the key 00:39:16.300 --> 00:39:19.820 things here in in any time You're trying to introduce 00:39:19.820 --> 00:39:23.800 young people of any sort in the ham radio No, 00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:27.840 I'll mention to on our website on the k2bsa .net 00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.320 website. There's a Radio scouting quick reference 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.139 card. It's under the radio scouting tab in the 00:39:35.139 --> 00:39:40.570 menu And the nice thing about it is Tom Schussler, 00:39:40.630 --> 00:39:46.510 N5HYP, and Chris Janahan, KE5KPC, created this 00:39:46.510 --> 00:39:50.730 card. And it's got a place for the call sign 00:39:50.730 --> 00:39:53.130 to be written in and the phonetics for the call 00:39:53.130 --> 00:39:57.519 sign, and then what cue signals mean. Probably 00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.780 as importantly, there's 45 questions on that 00:40:00.780 --> 00:40:03.940 card for the Scouts to ask to help them. But 00:40:03.940 --> 00:40:06.579 they're absolutely right. The Scouts come in 00:40:06.579 --> 00:40:10.119 and they're really frightened about, or maybe 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:15.019 it's not fright, it's just they don't know how 00:40:15.019 --> 00:40:19.059 to use the microphone or they're just maybe a 00:40:19.059 --> 00:40:22.619 little bit timid about it. Now the group that 00:40:22.619 --> 00:40:25.019 you're going to be with is it will you be at 00:40:25.019 --> 00:40:30.719 a campout or what will be the setting? Don't 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.860 even know like I said, we just joined So nothing 00:40:34.860 --> 00:40:37.119 is even planned at this point, but I thought 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.559 if I was gonna offer To try doing it that I'd 00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.559 at least ask some people in the know of Better 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:49.019 ways or be some tips on how to get it going Yeah, 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:57.949 it's I think it's mostly actually a best practice, 00:40:58.269 --> 00:41:03.170 and this is a little maybe over the top, is at 00:41:03.170 --> 00:41:05.929 the Jamboree we taught a Radio Merit Batch class, 00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:10.400 and the first part of the class was about How 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.780 do you speak on the radio? What are cue signals? 00:41:13.219 --> 00:41:15.440 What are the questions to ask? How does it go? 00:41:15.780 --> 00:41:17.739 When do you say your call sign? When does the 00:41:17.739 --> 00:41:20.539 other person, do you say over? Those sorts of 00:41:20.539 --> 00:41:23.320 things. And when the scouts showed up in the 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.619 station, they really knew what to do. They had 00:41:26.619 --> 00:41:29.019 a good feel for it. They didn't have as much 00:41:29.019 --> 00:41:31.780 mic fright. So that's probably an over the top 00:41:31.780 --> 00:41:36.420 example, but it gives you a snapshot that says, 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.159 brief them on this is what's going to happen 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:43.179 and this is how you participate and you find 00:41:43.179 --> 00:41:46.280 maybe the most eager scout and ideally it's a 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.659 small group around the radio although I've got 00:41:48.659 --> 00:41:51.199 some pictures of monster groups but you find 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.739 a scout that's a little bit more outgoing and 00:41:53.739 --> 00:41:56.659 they get on the radio and they can demonstrate 00:41:56.659 --> 00:41:59.960 to the other ones how it works. Just actually 00:41:59.960 --> 00:42:03.880 just calling CQ can be kind of cool as well but 00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:11.190 yeah. Bill's has the good perspective. Turn on 00:42:11.190 --> 00:42:18.190 the radio, call CQs, see what happens, and then 00:42:18.190 --> 00:42:20.829 you'll know what to do differently next time. 00:42:22.130 --> 00:42:25.030 Don has an advantage too. You can also show him 00:42:25.030 --> 00:42:29.230 some satellite working. That was pretty interesting 00:42:29.230 --> 00:42:33.119 seeing the kids at the National Jamboree. Watching 00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:36.119 a satellite Q. So in progress up on Garden Ground 00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.059 Mountain The kids really really were interested 00:42:40.059 --> 00:42:43.320 in how that worked And then you get to spend 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.159 you know a few minutes of the contact of the 00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:48.880 bird flying across Doing that and then you can 00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:50.780 sit there and discuss exactly what happened because 00:42:50.780 --> 00:42:53.920 uh that that that really kind of shows them What 00:42:53.920 --> 00:43:00.210 are the possibilities of? amateur radio We got 00:43:00.210 --> 00:43:03.690 some good feedback when we did a, our club did 00:43:03.690 --> 00:43:07.510 a merit badge thing, I think it was last year. 00:43:08.050 --> 00:43:10.909 Yeah, the satellite pass was the highlight. It 00:43:10.909 --> 00:43:14.050 really sold the kids on, on Amateur Radio at 00:43:14.050 --> 00:43:17.070 that point. I think about three and a half hours 00:43:17.070 --> 00:43:22.050 later, they were singing a different tune, but... 00:43:22.050 --> 00:43:28.260 That's a typical merit badge class. Yeah, it 00:43:28.260 --> 00:43:30.940 was a, it was an overnight camp out too. So like 00:43:30.940 --> 00:43:33.400 the kids were having fun, but, uh, they wanted 00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.099 to run around and play basketball or something. 00:43:36.699 --> 00:43:38.619 But anyways, it was a good time. All right, I'll 00:43:38.619 --> 00:43:40.659 let you guys go. So maybe someone else can jump 00:43:40.659 --> 00:43:43.260 in. Thank you very much and have a great night. 00:43:43.579 --> 00:43:46.719 Thanks for calling Don. Thanks for calling. Good 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.980 luck. Yep. Yeah. The, uh, I'll mention my own, 00:43:50.980 --> 00:43:54.260 uh, I went out and did a demonstration for a 00:43:54.260 --> 00:43:58.699 venturing crew locally, a satellite QSO. And 00:43:58.699 --> 00:44:01.460 right from the start, everything went wrong. 00:44:02.500 --> 00:44:06.960 The wire broke loose from the battery. For some 00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:10.739 reason, I couldn't get my transmit working. Didn't 00:44:10.739 --> 00:44:13.460 have the frequencies right or whatever. But lo 00:44:13.460 --> 00:44:15.980 and behold, we were at least able to hear the 00:44:15.980 --> 00:44:20.469 satellite come over. It was FO 29. and we came 00:44:20.469 --> 00:44:22.929 back into the ham shack that they have at this 00:44:22.929 --> 00:44:26.449 camp, and we briefed them on, here's what an 00:44:26.449 --> 00:44:29.510 orbit is and all that, but they said, well, we 00:44:29.510 --> 00:44:32.570 learned how to troubleshoot, we heard what goes 00:44:32.570 --> 00:44:36.409 on on the satellite, and they got, they were 00:44:36.409 --> 00:44:38.769 kind to me, actually, but they seemed to get 00:44:38.769 --> 00:44:42.969 a lot out of it, but it was, I called it an epic 00:44:42.969 --> 00:44:48.079 failure. but still it made an impression. I hope 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:54.320 a good one. Well we are just about out of time 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.739 and I've still got a couple of things here and 00:44:57.739 --> 00:45:00.639 I don't want to keep you guys too late here but 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:06.480 you mentioned a badge swap on slow scan. Yeah, 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:11.239 the one of the things that world Joda Jodi team 00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:16.380 is promoting this year is a badge exchange now 00:45:16.380 --> 00:45:19.880 I'll mention in in Europe and probably the rest 00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.199 of the world other than the US They're called 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.099 badges. Here in the US, we call them patches. 00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.760 But that's something that scouts do. They trade 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:33.960 patches when they're face -to -face. And what 00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.179 they're trying to do is a slow -scan TV badge 00:45:37.179 --> 00:45:43.119 exchange. And I know that GB2GP, which is in 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:49.960 Gilwell Park, where Scouting basically was founded, 00:45:50.739 --> 00:45:53.079 is going to be on the air. And they've said they're 00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:56.980 going to be very active with a slow scan TV badge 00:45:56.980 --> 00:46:00.340 exchange. So that's something cool to check out. 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.840 And there's something cool going on over in Westchester, 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:08.380 Ohio. And Jocelyn, I bet, is here to talk about 00:46:08.380 --> 00:46:12.139 it. Good evening, Jocelyn. Good evening, Neil. 00:46:12.329 --> 00:46:16.369 uh... nice to be on and uh... jim and uh... bill 00:46:16.369 --> 00:46:19.150 nice to uh... hear your voice uh... i'm sure 00:46:19.150 --> 00:46:21.750 uh... uh... will get to meet soon uh... from 00:46:21.750 --> 00:46:23.590 either convention or something because we're 00:46:23.590 --> 00:46:26.030 close by there but i just want to chime in i 00:46:26.030 --> 00:46:27.909 heard the gentleman thing you know how a lot 00:46:27.909 --> 00:46:30.869 what what do i do in kinda comparing to uh... 00:46:30.869 --> 00:46:33.590 what uh... jim was saying which is you know just 00:46:33.590 --> 00:46:36.309 do your best uh... i think we the first year 00:46:36.309 --> 00:46:39.369 is always rough you never uh... do everything 00:46:39.369 --> 00:46:42.179 right uh... things are going to happen but the 00:46:42.179 --> 00:46:44.079 kids don't really care they're just there and 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.019 they're just happy to be talking to somebody 00:46:46.019 --> 00:46:48.880 so the point the first thing that the most important 00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:51.579 point is to make sure they make a contact with 00:46:51.579 --> 00:46:53.340 somebody it doesn't have to be dx it could be 00:46:53.340 --> 00:46:57.320 local and just get that bug in them of like we're 00:46:57.320 --> 00:46:59.019 you know we're talking on this wire and stuff 00:46:59.019 --> 00:47:03.880 so that's my advice and yes as you as i've mentioned 00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:07.019 the voice of american museum will be hosting 00:47:07.019 --> 00:47:09.940 jamboree on the air for any scouts in the area 00:47:09.940 --> 00:47:12.679 of the Cincinnati Dayton area that wants to come 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.920 down and see us free access to the museum. So 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.000 if there's a queue for to get on the radio, just 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.699 go to the museum, come back, check in. And if 00:47:21.699 --> 00:47:24.500 there's a spot open, sit down and we'll get make 00:47:24.500 --> 00:47:28.440 QSO with with whoever we can get a round up for 00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:35.190 Joe and Brian the air. Awesome. Very good. I 00:47:35.190 --> 00:47:39.610 wanted to mention to the listeners, Jocelyn had 00:47:39.610 --> 00:47:42.909 a feature article in our newsletter that was 00:47:42.909 --> 00:47:54.940 released this morning. During last year's Jambri 00:47:54.940 --> 00:47:57.579 on the Air, five, it looks like five different 00:47:57.579 --> 00:48:00.760 stations worked one another all in the same frequency, 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:05.599 getting the scouts engaged. But as importantly, 00:48:06.539 --> 00:48:11.840 Jocelyn described how he was introduced to amateur 00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:16.920 radio some 30 years ago, lost it. Along the way, 00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:20.860 but picked it up It you know, we were planting 00:48:20.860 --> 00:48:25.480 seeds and and when scouts are introduced to jamboree 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.500 on the air they might take on Catch on fire right 00:48:29.500 --> 00:48:33.000 then or it might be 30 years later as it with 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:38.039 Jocelyn case, but comments Jocelyn No, you're 00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:40.440 exactly right. You know, it's it's planting that 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.070 seed and as I've mentioned before uh... it's 00:48:44.070 --> 00:48:46.769 not every it's not everybody's cup of tea uh... 00:48:46.769 --> 00:48:49.250 radio snack on appeal to everybody but i want 00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:52.210 the scouts to come in see what it is and leave 00:48:52.210 --> 00:48:54.469 knowing there's a hobby out there and this is 00:48:54.469 --> 00:48:57.250 what it is and as you have to mention you know 00:48:57.250 --> 00:48:59.650 may not take fire instantly it may take some 00:48:59.650 --> 00:49:01.710 time but at least they're aware in the back or 00:49:01.710 --> 00:49:03.929 not but they're minor they added this radio thing 00:49:03.929 --> 00:49:06.550 and that was really cool uh... and uh... uh... 00:49:06.550 --> 00:49:08.610 as neil knows we're pretty uh... lucky there 00:49:08.610 --> 00:49:11.070 to have the uh... or have our shack inside them 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:13.840 Voice of America Museum here in Westchester, 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.900 and having that means that they can come back. 00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.619 We're open every weekend. If they want to get 00:49:20.619 --> 00:49:23.599 in and do more radio, we're there. What happened 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:26.099 to me was the gentleman that did the Jeremy on 00:49:26.099 --> 00:49:29.320 the Air for us eventually moved away, and I never 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.760 knew what it was called until much later in life. 00:49:32.460 --> 00:49:34.639 So anyways, I know you guys got to run. I know 00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.480 you've got your nets going on. I'm going to say 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.500 thank you, Neil, and look forward to try to get 00:49:40.500 --> 00:49:44.119 as many Jota contacts as possible in two weekends. 00:49:46.860 --> 00:49:49.139 All right, Jocelyn. Thanks so much for calling 00:49:49.139 --> 00:49:52.659 in. We'll see you soon. All right. Thank you 00:49:52.659 --> 00:49:55.659 and good luck. Yeah. Thanks for calling in. Great. 00:49:55.940 --> 00:49:59.599 Bye bye. All right. Bye bye. All right. Well, 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:02.960 we didn't talk about the, the rating strip thing. 00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:05.079 Do you want, do you want to take a minute for 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.929 that? Oh, that'd be great. Yeah. Well, we had 00:50:08.929 --> 00:50:14.650 some discouraging news over the last few weeks. 00:50:15.869 --> 00:50:19.570 I think it's the awards insignia and uniforms 00:50:19.570 --> 00:50:22.769 committee of the Boy Scouts of America announced 00:50:22.769 --> 00:50:26.349 to us that they were discontinuing the amateur 00:50:26.349 --> 00:50:30.170 radio operator rating strip. And for those of 00:50:30.170 --> 00:50:33.519 you who don't know, that particular strip If 00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:37.860 you have a ham radio license, sew it on your 00:50:37.860 --> 00:50:42.519 left sleeve. And so it was a great incentive 00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:46.260 for scouts. After they'd earned the radio merit 00:50:46.260 --> 00:50:49.789 badge, we'd say, for about an equal amount of 00:50:49.789 --> 00:50:52.230 investment of your time and taking the test, 00:50:52.670 --> 00:50:54.829 you can get your license, you can sew this patch 00:50:54.829 --> 00:51:00.190 on. And in the old adages, nothing happens in 00:51:00.190 --> 00:51:03.809 scouting without a patch. Well, that was perfect. 00:51:03.889 --> 00:51:09.869 It was perfectly positioned. But the awards and 00:51:09.869 --> 00:51:16.260 insignia committee decided that they're not doing 00:51:16.260 --> 00:51:18.760 these kinds of things. They're not doing it more 00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:22.739 broadly. Their official statement is on the k2bsa 00:51:22.739 --> 00:51:26.739 .net website and read that over. And of course, 00:51:26.820 --> 00:51:29.780 the patch was for adults. It was for youth. I 00:51:29.780 --> 00:51:34.119 think we've gotten some comments there that the 00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.139 committee seemed to take this more from an adult 00:51:37.139 --> 00:51:40.559 perspective rather than the Scouts, but it is 00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.179 unfortunate, but The other part of that news 00:51:44.179 --> 00:51:49.559 is any scout patch, any uniform, even though 00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:53.739 it's discontinued, can still be worn. It doesn't 00:51:53.739 --> 00:51:56.820 have to be stripped off your uniform or anything. 00:51:57.579 --> 00:52:01.289 And so if you've got them, sew them on. If you've 00:52:01.289 --> 00:52:05.449 got them sewn on, leave them on. So that's kind 00:52:05.449 --> 00:52:08.210 of the good news there. It's not going away. 00:52:09.110 --> 00:52:11.989 It's just that BSA Supply won't be selling them 00:52:11.989 --> 00:52:14.530 anymore. They still have them in stock, so order 00:52:14.530 --> 00:52:17.789 them up. But disappointing, And as I told Neil 00:52:17.789 --> 00:52:20.730 before the show, I wrote about five different 00:52:20.730 --> 00:52:27.610 emails, all of them dripping with venom and flames 00:52:27.610 --> 00:52:30.090 around the edges. And then I toned it down and 00:52:30.090 --> 00:52:32.769 I said, well, they're not going to change their 00:52:32.769 --> 00:52:35.730 mind. How can we make this the best? And how 00:52:35.730 --> 00:52:39.070 can I get the right word out for everybody? And 00:52:39.070 --> 00:52:42.289 we were able to do that. So disappointing for 00:52:42.289 --> 00:52:47.280 sure. But don't take it off your uniform. Okay, 00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:50.699 very good. Well, I got to get you guys Off of 00:52:50.699 --> 00:52:53.360 here so you can get to your net but thanks so 00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.280 much for coming on and talking about it and Hopefully 00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:02.400 we can get a lot of Scouts on here in just a 00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:04.679 couple of weekends. So thanks for coming on the 00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:08.460 show. Oh You're welcome us. Yeah, thank you for 00:53:08.460 --> 00:53:11.760 having us and y 'all you're even inviting bill 00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:16.739 back next week. So that's We'll, we'll see how 00:53:16.739 --> 00:53:24.280 that goes. So, so yeah, next week we'll be talking 00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:27.539 Lennox. So, so get out your, uh, your penguin 00:53:27.539 --> 00:53:31.940 tuxedo and we'll, we'll see how that goes. So, 00:53:31.940 --> 00:53:34.840 well, that is a wrap for this week's edition 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:38.000 of ham talk live. Thanks to Jim Wilson, K5 ND 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.519 and Bill Stearns and E4 RD and everybody out 00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:43.420 there in cyberspace for listening and calling 00:53:43.420 --> 00:53:46.320 in. and invite you back next Thursday night, 00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:50.320 9 p .m. Eastern Time. Russ Woodman, K5TUX, and 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:54.380 crew will be here to talk about Linux in the 00:53:54.380 --> 00:53:57.320 ham shack. And for a list of all of our upcoming 00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:01.239 guests, just visit hamtalklive .com. And don't 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:04.639 forget that USA radio scouting net happens in 00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:06.619 just a few minutes if you're listening live, 00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:09.780 10 p .m. Eastern, 9 p .m. Central on EchoLink 00:54:09.780 --> 00:54:16.900 conference node JOTA - 365. So this is Neil Rapp 00:54:16.900 --> 00:54:23.199 WB9VPG saying 7 3 7 5 and may the good DX be 00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:23.860 yours.