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It's episode number 137 It's Lennox in 00:01:45.219 --> 00:01:48.739 the ham shack recorded live on Thursday, October 00:01:48.739 --> 00:01:54.420 18th 2018 I'm your host Neil rap WB 9 VPG. Thanks 00:01:54.420 --> 00:01:58.519 for tuning in to this episode of ham talk live 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:02.019 tonight We're joined by the Linux in the ham 00:02:02.019 --> 00:02:06.250 shack crew Russ woodman k5 tux Cheryl Jones, 00:02:06.549 --> 00:02:11.569 W5MOO, and Bill Stearns, Ne4RD. And we'll take 00:02:11.569 --> 00:02:15.610 your calls live in just a few minutes. Last week, 00:02:16.129 --> 00:02:20.509 Jim Wilson, K5ND, and Bill Stearns, Ne4RD, the 00:02:20.509 --> 00:02:24.300 aforementioned Bill Stearns. They were here to 00:02:24.300 --> 00:02:26.500 talk about Jamboree on the air that's coming 00:02:26.500 --> 00:02:29.919 up this weekend. 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Thanks to Scott and Gillette Tower 00:07:34.629 --> 00:07:38.350 Electronics for sponsoring the show. Once again 00:07:38.350 --> 00:07:42.209 to bring you HamTalk Live. They'll be at Greenville, 00:07:42.230 --> 00:07:46.230 Tennessee this weekend on October 20th. And then 00:07:46.230 --> 00:07:50.089 LaGrange, Georgia on October 27th. But you can 00:07:50.089 --> 00:07:58.009 visit them anytime at PL -259 .com. Well, our 00:07:58.009 --> 00:08:03.810 guest tonight, Russ Woodman. K5TUX first licensed 00:08:03.810 --> 00:08:09.350 in 1993's N1UYE in northern Maine and when he 00:08:09.350 --> 00:08:11.870 moved to Missouri he was assigned a zero call 00:08:11.870 --> 00:08:15.310 and then the vanity call signs came along and 00:08:15.310 --> 00:08:22.750 he got K5TUX to celebrate the whole Linux and 00:08:22.750 --> 00:08:28.810 open source thing. He operates the digital modes 00:08:29.500 --> 00:08:34.360 PSK 31, FreeDV, some CW, some sideband, and for 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.460 more than six years he's been the co -host of 00:08:37.460 --> 00:08:40.700 the amateur radio podcast Linux in the Hamshack, 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:45.139 which records every other Monday night at 8 p 00:08:45.139 --> 00:08:48.220 .m. Central Time. And you can find more information 00:08:48.220 --> 00:08:54.480 about that at LHSpodcast .info. Cheryl Jones, 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:59.750 W5MOO, is the social media guru of the Lennox 00:08:59.750 --> 00:09:03.190 in the ham shack podcast team and She makes a 00:09:03.190 --> 00:09:06.090 mean piece of cake as well. She stays on top 00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:10.309 of the news and Has the the recipe segment and 00:09:10.309 --> 00:09:14.350 due to her Facebook addiction She is actually 00:09:14.350 --> 00:09:19.909 friends on Facebook with Jaden K Smith Okay, 00:09:19.929 --> 00:09:22.809 not really but We thought we'd throw that in 00:09:22.809 --> 00:09:26.789 there. And Bill Stearns, NE4RD, is a self -proclaimed 00:09:26.789 --> 00:09:30.309 nerd enough so that he made his call sign NE4RD. 00:09:30.830 --> 00:09:34.210 And he was originally licensed in 1994 at the 00:09:34.210 --> 00:09:40.850 Melbourne Hamfest in Florida as KE4RGH. And he's 00:09:40.850 --> 00:09:44.649 been an active member of Civil Air Patrol, past 00:09:44.649 --> 00:09:47.750 president of the Amateur Radio Association of 00:09:47.750 --> 00:09:51.559 Southwest Florida. contest or satellite operator 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:55.639 and into some VHF stuff. And now he's in, uh, 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.039 lives in Billings, Montana with his wife and 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.259 three children. He's a software and systems engineer 00:10:01.259 --> 00:10:04.620 podcast and generally nerdy guy. You can also 00:10:04.620 --> 00:10:08.220 find him on Linux in the ham shack. And he's 00:10:08.220 --> 00:10:12.519 been a co -host since May, 2016 and her reports 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:16.590 on radio scouting. on amateur radio news line 00:10:16.590 --> 00:10:22.230 and, and right now he is somewhere in, in cheese 00:10:22.230 --> 00:10:26.690 land in Wisconsin, like, like coming home from 00:10:26.690 --> 00:10:28.990 dinner or something. I don't know, Russ, what, 00:10:28.990 --> 00:10:32.730 what, what's going on here with bill. I don't 00:10:32.730 --> 00:10:35.190 know what's going on bill with bill. I mean, 00:10:35.269 --> 00:10:38.730 we never really do. Sometimes he's, uh, you know, 00:10:38.730 --> 00:10:42.570 a normal kind of co -host guy and other times. 00:10:42.889 --> 00:10:45.750 We don't know where his brain is, but apparently 00:10:45.750 --> 00:10:48.929 he's just somewhere riding in a car in outside 00:10:48.929 --> 00:10:52.230 of Milwaukee right now. I don't know what he's 00:10:52.230 --> 00:10:55.309 doing, but there you go. I'm deep in the heart 00:10:55.309 --> 00:11:00.690 of Milwaukee. Oh, there he is. He's back there. 00:11:00.710 --> 00:11:02.889 There he is. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Stearns, 00:11:02.950 --> 00:11:07.909 any for RD and I believe I'll have to go back 00:11:07.909 --> 00:11:10.519 in the records and check, but I believe You're 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:13.539 the first person to be on the show back to back 00:11:13.539 --> 00:11:17.659 weeks. I'm, I'm setting records daily. That's, 00:11:17.659 --> 00:11:19.720 that's really what we are. And of course I did 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:22.139 want to make one correction. We do record every 00:11:22.139 --> 00:11:24.759 Monday night. Now we changed up the format after 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:29.340 we took our break in, in October last year and 00:11:29.340 --> 00:11:31.340 kind of took off the fourth quarter and we came 00:11:31.340 --> 00:11:35.299 back January with a fury and we started doing 00:11:35.299 --> 00:11:38.799 a podcast every week. So you can catch us on 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:43.019 LHS podcasts. Every week now. Well, that's what 00:11:43.019 --> 00:11:49.779 I get for copying stuff off Apparently we have 00:11:49.779 --> 00:11:52.659 some outdated information somewhere because I've 00:11:52.659 --> 00:11:57.220 actually Been on the show since it started with 00:11:57.220 --> 00:12:01.820 my first co -host or actual host Richard kb5 00:12:01.820 --> 00:12:05.539 JBB and I want to say that our first episode 00:12:05.539 --> 00:12:10.200 was released somewhere on or about this day October 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:18.600 back in 2008 so it's been 10 years Towards the 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:20.519 middle to end of October when the first show 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:23.019 So it might have actually been the 18th who knows 00:12:23.019 --> 00:12:25.980 but it's been 10 years and we're still amazed 00:12:25.980 --> 00:12:29.639 that we're still doing it Well, you're over 250 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.960 episodes now. So that's that's pretty impressive 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:37.090 We took the Mozilla route For the last year, 00:12:37.149 --> 00:12:39.230 we retooled and decided to start putting out 00:12:39.230 --> 00:12:41.330 episodes a lot more frequently so we could pump 00:12:41.330 --> 00:12:48.750 those numbers up. Well, I got it. I got to tell 00:12:48.750 --> 00:12:53.230 this story because this episode actually kind 00:12:53.230 --> 00:12:58.090 of originated because of the following story. 00:12:59.090 --> 00:13:02.509 I went to see a friend of mine in Springfield, 00:13:02.509 --> 00:13:04.809 Missouri. Never been to Springfield, Missouri 00:13:04.809 --> 00:13:09.820 before. And so I get to the hotel, we rush out 00:13:09.820 --> 00:13:15.240 to Lambert's to dinner and get back, and I promised 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.659 all my satellite friends, hey, I'm going to get 00:13:18.659 --> 00:13:21.820 some of those grid squares you need while I'm 00:13:21.820 --> 00:13:26.440 on the trip. So I'm going back out to my car 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.480 at like 10 o 'clock at night from the hotel and 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.240 go to sit in the hotel parking lot, hoping that 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:38.570 no one sees me. Out there sitting by myself talking 00:13:38.570 --> 00:13:42.470 into a microphone So that we can get these guys 00:13:42.470 --> 00:13:47.330 they're they're grid squares and So I get in 00:13:47.330 --> 00:13:49.929 the car I turn on my radio and I see that there's 00:13:49.929 --> 00:13:53.769 somebody parked next to me and and There's this 00:13:53.769 --> 00:13:58.789 guy sitting there alone in the car Next to me 00:13:58.789 --> 00:14:02.289 and I'm like great. This guy's gonna see You 00:14:02.289 --> 00:14:05.639 know that I'm out here Working satellites. He's 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:08.139 probably gonna think I'm you know, like, you 00:14:08.139 --> 00:14:12.159 know Creating havoc of some kind and then all 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:14.320 of a sudden there's this knock on the window 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:23.740 And it's Russ So Russ is parked next to me at 00:14:23.740 --> 00:14:26.879 the hotel and says hi just want to introduce 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:31.139 myself I'm k5 tux, you know, and I'm like, uh 00:14:31.139 --> 00:14:39.320 -oh That was that was quite the adventure It 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:43.259 was interesting because I as you Put in here 00:14:43.259 --> 00:14:45.379 that I was I was actually driving for uber that 00:14:45.379 --> 00:14:47.940 night and just happened to roll into that particular 00:14:47.940 --> 00:14:52.480 hotel Dropping off a rider who had you know been 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:55.220 out at the bar and enjoying himself that evening 00:14:55.220 --> 00:14:59.240 So I pull in and I see this car with ham radio 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:02.740 antennas all over it and big ham talk live sticker 00:15:02.740 --> 00:15:08.029 on it and WB9, VPG on the back and I'm like, 00:15:08.129 --> 00:15:15.269 wait, I know that person. But you weren't in 00:15:15.269 --> 00:15:18.350 the car at that time. So I dropped my rider off 00:15:18.350 --> 00:15:19.970 and I pulled around and I parked next to you 00:15:19.970 --> 00:15:22.750 and I'm like, okay, so what do I do now? How 00:15:22.750 --> 00:15:28.080 do I make contact? With Neil, you know because 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:29.799 you weren't in the car and I didn't want to like 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:32.059 run into the lobby and say hey What room is Neil 00:15:32.059 --> 00:15:36.759 in and all that? So I was thinking of actually 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.120 just you know writing a note and putting it under 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.419 your windshield wiper So you would pick it up 00:15:41.419 --> 00:15:44.059 and see it the next day or whatever and say ah, 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:47.860 you know Ross k5 tux was here and saw and Then 00:15:47.860 --> 00:15:50.100 all and all that I was getting I got back in 00:15:50.100 --> 00:15:51.659 my car And I was just about to leave and all 00:15:51.659 --> 00:15:53.720 of a sudden you walk out of the hotel to jump 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.309 in to start doing some satellite work I was like, 00:15:56.389 --> 00:16:00.950 well, I couldn't believe my good luck. So, and 00:16:00.950 --> 00:16:03.809 I'm sure, you know, while you were doing that, 00:16:03.950 --> 00:16:05.830 you probably thought I was thinking you were 00:16:05.830 --> 00:16:07.730 crazy. And I actually kind of thought you were 00:16:07.730 --> 00:16:12.870 a little crazy. Right. Exactly. But there you 00:16:12.870 --> 00:16:16.649 go. We met and here we are again. Yes, and here 00:16:16.649 --> 00:16:19.710 we are again. And we said, oh, hey, we need to 00:16:19.710 --> 00:16:23.830 do a show together at some point. So here we 00:16:23.830 --> 00:16:27.450 are. So this podcast, Linux and the Ham Shack, 00:16:27.590 --> 00:16:31.190 you're over 250 episodes now. And you guys talk 00:16:31.190 --> 00:16:33.950 about an important aspect of ham radio. In fact, 00:16:34.029 --> 00:16:36.710 it's one of the biggest things I think that's 00:16:36.710 --> 00:16:39.529 happened to ham radio since I've been in ham 00:16:39.529 --> 00:16:44.139 radio. at least, is computing. I mean, what's 00:16:44.139 --> 00:16:48.259 a ham shack now without a computer there to log, 00:16:48.580 --> 00:16:51.360 to interface with stuff, to do digital communications 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.440 and all kinds of stuff. But you get into some 00:16:54.440 --> 00:17:00.320 other topics too. We get into the... recipe segment 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:04.519 and the the news and contests and and stuff like 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.119 that, but Tell the listeners a little bit about 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:11.119 the podcast and how they can tune in to you guys 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.700 All right, well we have had a few iterations 00:17:15.700 --> 00:17:18.700 over the last ten years and the current iteration 00:17:18.700 --> 00:17:22.539 We have split the show into a couple of different 00:17:22.539 --> 00:17:26.480 Types of segments where now we do one week where 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.259 we'd pick a topic of particular interest and 00:17:30.259 --> 00:17:33.680 we dive very deeply into it. We talk about everything 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:36.319 we know about it. Sometimes we bring in experts. 00:17:37.180 --> 00:17:40.180 We let you know all of the resources we've found 00:17:40.180 --> 00:17:43.599 about a particular thing. And we talk as much 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:49.000 about a particular topic as we can without we 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.400 hope getting too boring. And then on the alternate 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:57.059 weeks, we do sort of a double recording. We talk 00:17:57.059 --> 00:18:00.950 about Contests and news in the amateur radio 00:18:00.950 --> 00:18:04.410 world and in open source talk about conferences 00:18:04.410 --> 00:18:07.789 that are coming up and things that you can do 00:18:07.789 --> 00:18:10.009 in open source and in amateur radio and how you 00:18:10.009 --> 00:18:12.410 can combine those two hobbies which is the focus 00:18:12.410 --> 00:18:16.529 of our podcast and Then we kind of take a departure 00:18:16.529 --> 00:18:19.769 and we record a second episode on alternate Mondays 00:18:19.769 --> 00:18:22.329 where we just talk about the stuff We want to 00:18:22.329 --> 00:18:25.630 talk about you know the good movies. We've seen 00:18:25.630 --> 00:18:28.809 good music. We've listened to Some whiskey or 00:18:28.809 --> 00:18:31.009 beer you should try out recipes and all that 00:18:31.009 --> 00:18:34.710 kind of thing. So We've tried to make it as much 00:18:34.710 --> 00:18:38.410 About as much as possible to be of interest to 00:18:38.410 --> 00:18:40.630 as many people as possible and also just to keep 00:18:40.630 --> 00:18:43.470 it interesting and fun So we hope we're doing 00:18:43.470 --> 00:18:46.970 that but if you go back and listen to the earlier 00:18:46.970 --> 00:18:50.990 episodes we were a lot more, you know, really 00:18:50.990 --> 00:18:53.789 technology and amateur radio and open source 00:18:53.789 --> 00:18:58.140 and computer focused and We still try to make 00:18:58.140 --> 00:19:02.539 it fun, but we didn't dive into external topics 00:19:02.539 --> 00:19:05.000 and things like that. But we always try to keep 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.720 it interesting. The original format used to be 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:10.299 a lot longer too. It used to be an hour and a 00:19:10.299 --> 00:19:13.539 half to two hours per episode. Now we're chopping 00:19:13.539 --> 00:19:17.079 that back to 30 to 45 minutes to give you smaller 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:20.440 nuggets and keep things moving faster and be 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:24.980 more entertaining. So that's what it's all about. 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:26.819 At least that's what we're trying to do. And 00:19:26.819 --> 00:19:29.759 we touch on all kinds of weird things, too. Everything 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:33.640 from science to technology to what the ARRL is 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:35.920 doing to governments to how to use the computer 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:38.720 in your shack to, you know, just about any topic 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:43.339 you can think of. And then along comes this this 00:19:43.339 --> 00:19:46.900 new co -host, because I read on your website 00:19:46.900 --> 00:19:50.579 that you currently have a co -host hiatus program 00:19:50.579 --> 00:19:56.289 for all your co -hosts. Yeah, they don't ever 00:19:56.289 --> 00:19:59.430 really go away They just sort of semi retire 00:19:59.430 --> 00:20:02.630 and we keep them up on the web page Just so everybody 00:20:02.630 --> 00:20:05.589 knows who they once were and we're kind of like 00:20:05.589 --> 00:20:08.150 a little bit like a meat grinder when it comes 00:20:08.150 --> 00:20:10.269 to co -host You know, they come in we chew them 00:20:10.269 --> 00:20:11.970 up. We spit them back out and then we move on 00:20:11.970 --> 00:20:15.690 to the next one And Bill is the current iteration 00:20:15.690 --> 00:20:18.309 of that right now. He hasn't been completely 00:20:18.309 --> 00:20:20.450 ground into the floor yet. So he's still with 00:20:20.450 --> 00:20:25.509 us Expect he may last till middle of 2019, something 00:20:25.509 --> 00:20:27.730 like that before we have to replace him. But 00:20:27.730 --> 00:20:34.230 yeah, exactly. The odds against me here. But 00:20:34.230 --> 00:20:37.769 he he has done work with Aaron. So he's he was 00:20:37.769 --> 00:20:39.609 familiar with podcasting. He just happened to 00:20:39.609 --> 00:20:41.869 be in the right place in the right time when 00:20:41.869 --> 00:20:45.269 the last co -host rich had to bail out on us. 00:20:45.269 --> 00:20:48.869 And he jumped in, was able to fill the role with 00:20:48.869 --> 00:20:54.160 no introduction or no instruction really. Uh, 00:20:54.180 --> 00:20:56.740 just hit the ground running and you know, for 00:20:56.740 --> 00:21:00.539 the last more than two years, uh, we've, uh, 00:21:00.539 --> 00:21:03.740 I think really put a good thing together. Now, 00:21:03.859 --> 00:21:06.119 bill, we're going to put you to work here. If, 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:10.599 if you're, you're where you can now, we're going 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:13.940 to talk about some, um, some digital modes and 00:21:13.940 --> 00:21:17.880 how, you know, computing, um, whatever platform 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:23.470 you're on, um, has, uh, led to all these new 00:21:23.470 --> 00:21:28.410 modes. And maybe, you know, we'll spend a little 00:21:28.410 --> 00:21:31.529 bit of time specifically on Linux as well. But 00:21:31.529 --> 00:21:34.390 let's talk about some of these digital modes 00:21:34.390 --> 00:21:39.450 that are out there that computing has revolutionized 00:21:39.450 --> 00:21:43.349 those in ham radio. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, 00:21:43.470 --> 00:21:47.529 there was, I remember a time two years ago when 00:21:47.529 --> 00:21:52.299 JT65 came out and And people started taking that 00:21:52.299 --> 00:21:56.140 up and started growing and started growing. And 00:21:56.140 --> 00:21:59.079 we started looking at the numbers of people switching 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:03.680 to digital versus CW and Sideband. And I remember 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:08.200 seeing a graph. I think we ran that graphic on 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:13.099 our podcast. The amount of contacts going into 00:22:13.099 --> 00:22:16.619 Clubblog at the time had kind of like had a dramatic 00:22:16.619 --> 00:22:21.440 step function. digital was going up and everything 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.640 else was going down and Yeah, and then and then 00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:28.500 this thing came out about a year or so later 00:22:28.500 --> 00:22:33.740 called FT 8 and oh my goodness, I haven't seen 00:22:33.740 --> 00:22:37.279 a new graphic, but I'm sure that we had a we 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:42.720 have a whole new level of of changes in the dynamics 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.759 of what kind of contacts are going on now and 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.099 then you know, let's fast forward to you know, 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:50.519 just the past few weeks, there's this new thing 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:54.740 called JS8 call, which kind of uses the FT8 call 00:22:54.740 --> 00:22:58.619 or FT8 protocols. They actually started out as 00:22:58.619 --> 00:23:02.000 FT8 call, like we mentioned last week. Yeah. 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:05.880 And they had to change the name. And so now it's 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.759 JS8 call. And lo and behold, we're going to be 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.720 using it this weekend for jamboree on the air. 00:23:12.700 --> 00:23:15.079 And it's starting to become quite pervasive. 00:23:15.339 --> 00:23:20.039 And I just saw an email from the ARRL just yesterday 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:22.039 from the contest thing that we're going to be 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:26.420 using FT8 at the Ritty Roundup coming in January. 00:23:27.579 --> 00:23:31.599 So, yeah, this stuff has taken the whole world 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:35.880 by storm for amateur radio. And it's great because 00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:40.180 the tools come from, you know, Joe Taylor and 00:23:40.180 --> 00:23:42.119 his group there over at, what was that, Princeton? 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:46.819 Yeah, and yeah, and it's cross platform. It's 00:23:46.819 --> 00:23:51.180 available in Mac OS You know Windows and Linux 00:23:51.180 --> 00:23:55.339 and even JSA call is is is available everywhere 00:23:55.339 --> 00:23:57.660 I mean these people are finally getting the point 00:23:57.660 --> 00:24:00.019 that you know if you're gonna put something out 00:24:00.019 --> 00:24:02.839 in amateur radio, which is the original open 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:05.200 source You know, you need to have it so it's 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:07.559 available everywhere and that there's no limitations 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.980 on what we can use. So yeah, it's a great time 00:24:10.980 --> 00:24:14.400 to be an amateur radio right now. Yeah, I was 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:20.720 doing some upgrading today of some software at 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:24.420 school and noticed that in one of the updates, 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:29.160 I think it was maybe DX keeper or N1MM one of 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:33.140 them was an update because you know the ready 00:24:33.140 --> 00:24:36.619 roundup is going to have FTA in it and that just 00:24:36.619 --> 00:24:39.680 came out so there's already in the software update 00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:43.940 so you know they're getting ready for that and 00:24:43.940 --> 00:24:49.099 so it'll be interesting and you know the The 00:24:49.099 --> 00:24:52.940 Baker Island the expedition died the only contacts 00:24:52.940 --> 00:24:55.339 I made were on ft8. That was the only way I could 00:24:55.339 --> 00:25:06.240 get through Oh, did he jump off Ft8 it ft8 is 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.720 nice in that way, especially because it has like 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:13.099 a multi multi contact mode forget what they call 00:25:13.099 --> 00:25:17.609 it exactly I've slept since then But it allows 00:25:17.609 --> 00:25:21.490 you to kind of join in on Pilots and let FTA 00:25:21.490 --> 00:25:24.509 call users, or not FTA call users, but FTA users 00:25:24.509 --> 00:25:28.589 pick out multiple contacts simultaneously. So 00:25:28.589 --> 00:25:33.609 you can really get in. And since the WSJT protocols 00:25:33.609 --> 00:25:36.890 are all weak signal modes, you can get through 00:25:36.890 --> 00:25:42.200 even on, you know, SNRs that... Would be funnel 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:44.839 any other amateur radio mode. So it's a great 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:48.940 thing which is probably why it's become so popular 00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:53.799 and ubiquitous Yeah, it's it's really taken off. 00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:56.980 So Well, we're going to take a break. We're going 00:25:56.980 --> 00:26:00.940 to see if we can find Bill. And we're going to, 00:26:00.940 --> 00:26:04.259 we're running a little over here. So we're going 00:26:04.259 --> 00:26:07.480 to take a break. We'll find Bill. We'll come 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.279 back and talk a little raspberry pie and some 00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:13.519 other things and take your calls. When we come 00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:16.380 back after this word from ICOM America right 00:26:16.380 --> 00:26:20.960 here on HamTalk Live. Heard it? Worked it? Logged 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:23.380 it. It's time to get the transceiver that is 00:26:23.380 --> 00:26:26.839 best suited for your lifestyle. 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So 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:35.440 we'll go ahead and invite you all to do that. 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:39.440 And now's the time to do that. And oh, we've 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:45.559 got one here from JD. Greetings from Japan. Thanks 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.839 for keeping your podcast amateur radio focused 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:53.299 and relevant. And thanks for keeping it real. 00:29:54.029 --> 00:29:57.829 So many other podcasts have no ham radio or tech 00:29:57.829 --> 00:30:01.049 association. So, well, we appreciate that. Thank 00:30:01.049 --> 00:30:04.690 you for, uh, for writing in here. Well, let's, 00:30:04.930 --> 00:30:09.609 uh, let's take some calls here. 8126384261 is 00:30:09.609 --> 00:30:14.849 the number to call. But when we last left, and 00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:18.990 we're trying to find Bill, we were going to talk 00:30:18.990 --> 00:30:22.029 a little bit about the Raspberry Pi. Now, that's 00:30:22.029 --> 00:30:27.109 been my experience with Linux was we were hosting 00:30:27.109 --> 00:30:30.710 an IRLP, an echo link node, on the repeater. 00:30:31.289 --> 00:30:34.250 And since I've finally had to give up repeaters 00:30:34.250 --> 00:30:37.230 because they were too far away and I just didn't 00:30:37.230 --> 00:30:40.789 have the time to do them right anymore. But, 00:30:40.789 --> 00:30:45.609 um, the raspberry PI replaced this huge old desktop 00:30:45.609 --> 00:30:49.170 computer that we had at the site. And, um, and 00:30:49.170 --> 00:30:51.009 just made all the difference in the world, but 00:30:51.009 --> 00:30:53.430 you had to know a little bit of, uh, Linux to 00:30:53.430 --> 00:30:56.309 get it going. So let's talk a little bit about, 00:30:56.309 --> 00:30:59.190 uh, the raspberry PI and some of the things that 00:30:59.190 --> 00:31:03.529 you can do with it, uh, with the amateur radio. 00:31:05.549 --> 00:31:08.470 That's definitely a rust thing. Uh, I only own 00:31:08.470 --> 00:31:11.180 the Odroid. But I can tell you my experience 00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:15.140 with the Odroid and running Ubuntu on the Odroid 00:31:15.140 --> 00:31:19.660 is great. We actually, at the Hamvention last 00:31:19.660 --> 00:31:22.680 year, we set up the big TV that Russ brought 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:28.460 over for our display and our slide presentation. 00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:34.140 We set that up on our little Odroid X1 and running 00:31:34.140 --> 00:31:40.670 the latest LHS build of Linux. for Ubuntu or 00:31:40.670 --> 00:31:44.549 Ubuntu Linux. And yeah, we're great. Obviously 00:31:44.549 --> 00:31:46.329 all the software installed and everything else. 00:31:46.730 --> 00:31:48.890 But I think Russ has been messing around with 00:31:48.890 --> 00:31:51.289 Raspberry Pis for quite a while. So Russ, why 00:31:51.289 --> 00:31:52.869 don't you talk about your Raspberry Pi experience? 00:31:54.490 --> 00:31:56.569 Well, I have been dealing with Raspberry Pis 00:31:56.569 --> 00:31:59.410 for a little while, but all of these, like the 00:31:59.410 --> 00:32:01.490 Odroid and the Raspberry Pi and the Beagle Bone 00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:05.200 in there. And all of these platforms, they all 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.140 are sort of lumped into the category of single 00:32:08.140 --> 00:32:12.740 board computers, which is just simply an entire 00:32:12.740 --> 00:32:16.940 computer on a little PC board. And they tend 00:32:16.940 --> 00:32:21.660 to be inexpensive and they tend to have all of 00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:23.660 the same interfaces, like they'll provide you 00:32:23.660 --> 00:32:26.299 with USB, they'll provide you with some kind 00:32:26.299 --> 00:32:28.700 of network interface, like a one gig ethernet. 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:34.359 They usually have an HDMI interface for your 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:40.559 output video, and then they will have GPIO pins 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.759 that allow you to do different things with them. 00:32:46.099 --> 00:32:49.160 The GPIO tends to be where these become very 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:56.240 powerful because you can build or buy, add on 00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.720 hats or daughter cards, to do specific things. 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.400 So you can turn them into DMR repeaters or echo 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.900 link nodes or IRLP nodes or whatever. But at 00:33:07.900 --> 00:33:11.740 their core, they're simply just tiny little computers 00:33:11.740 --> 00:33:14.160 and they're inexpensive to run. You can buy them. 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.180 You usually have to spend more for the case to 00:33:16.180 --> 00:33:18.160 put them in than you actually spent for the computer 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:21.019 itself. And since they're usually running atom 00:33:21.019 --> 00:33:27.339 based processors, they're very powerful. multi 00:33:27.339 --> 00:33:33.200 -core processors for the size of the units. Because 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.579 they're based on the Atom chipset, Linux works 00:33:36.579 --> 00:33:39.799 really well on them because there are many distributions 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:43.039 that are built for the Atom chipset. But even 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:46.420 the latest Raspberry Pis will run Windows 10. 00:33:47.700 --> 00:33:51.039 They don't run them well, but they will run them. 00:33:51.660 --> 00:33:53.920 So at the core, they're just little compact. 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.519 PCs basically and you can do so much with them. 00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.839 They're very flexible. They're inexpensive You 00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.759 can and since the you know amateur radio world 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.819 is is now computer connected and computer driven 00:34:05.819 --> 00:34:09.960 and that's what's keeping amateur radio as a 00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:15.119 hobby relevant These are very popular And and 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:16.860 they just have I mean, there's a million things 00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:19.599 you can do I don't even know where to begin touching 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:24.630 on on the stuff you can do and just a lot of 00:34:24.630 --> 00:34:29.070 different things and I finally got to the point 00:34:29.070 --> 00:34:34.829 even where I had the Raspite sending out APRS 00:34:34.829 --> 00:34:37.630 beacons for the repeater and that kind of thing 00:34:37.630 --> 00:34:40.030 on the side and I had another one that was streaming 00:34:40.030 --> 00:34:43.969 the audio for it, so They worked really well 00:34:43.969 --> 00:34:47.110 for just that one specific purpose, you know, 00:34:47.110 --> 00:34:49.590 it was it was no problem. There was plenty of 00:34:49.590 --> 00:34:54.150 power there to To get the job done so that there's 00:34:54.150 --> 00:34:58.610 a just a lot a lot going on there well eight 00:34:58.610 --> 00:35:01.130 one two six three eight four two six one is the 00:35:01.130 --> 00:35:02.889 phone number if you'd like to call in or you 00:35:02.889 --> 00:35:08.690 can tweet us or at ham talk live on there and 00:35:08.690 --> 00:35:11.769 Bill why don't you talk a little bit about some 00:35:11.769 --> 00:35:16.309 of the software that's available specifically 00:35:16.309 --> 00:35:22.500 for Linux that is available for ham radio applications 00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:25.940 Well, yeah, you can just do about anything you 00:35:25.940 --> 00:35:28.679 want an amateur radio with the software on Linux 00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.199 All the way from a full featured logging program 00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.179 like CQR log which allows you to do everything 00:35:34.179 --> 00:35:41.840 from you know doing a DX You know DX Logger sorry 00:35:43.050 --> 00:35:46.030 Brain is failing on me as I'm driving through 00:35:46.030 --> 00:35:50.130 Milwaukee right now. Full featured, yeah, you 00:35:50.130 --> 00:35:53.969 log with the World Club log. Just about everything 00:35:53.969 --> 00:35:56.489 you can do has remote abilities for connecting 00:35:56.489 --> 00:36:00.250 to FL Digi to do all your digital modes. WSJTX 00:36:00.250 --> 00:36:04.750 to do all the FT8 modes, JT65, Moonbounce, you 00:36:04.750 --> 00:36:08.280 name it. It's all available in that. to a very 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.920 simple straightforward programs for logging like 00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.920 x log, pi log, pi QSO, and stuff like that. We 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:18.980 have a multitude of applications to do all kinds 00:36:18.980 --> 00:36:21.659 of audio digital stuff. Like I said earlier, 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:25.980 FLTG and stuff like that. You have Linux PSK 00:36:25.980 --> 00:36:30.420 among others. We also have all kinds of stuff 00:36:30.420 --> 00:36:34.940 for doing training and education. Whether you're 00:36:34.940 --> 00:36:37.320 studying Morse code or studying for your ham 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.400 exam and stuff like that There's this package 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.079 set Do you install a Debian based system and 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.059 that would also be the same for Ubuntu? Called 00:36:47.059 --> 00:36:49.460 the ham radio pure blend packages and these are 00:36:49.460 --> 00:36:53.000 made of packages that basically combine a bunch 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.929 of different amateur radio applications But people 00:36:57.929 --> 00:37:00.190 in the car are laughing at me. A bunch of amateur 00:37:00.190 --> 00:37:04.429 radio applications for just about every task. 00:37:04.530 --> 00:37:06.329 And it's all separated out by the task, like 00:37:06.329 --> 00:37:09.250 whether that be satellite, rig control, logging, 00:37:10.630 --> 00:37:13.369 antenna building, anything. I mean, it's just 00:37:13.369 --> 00:37:15.369 amazing what's out there. And that's a great 00:37:15.369 --> 00:37:18.449 way to start. And we put together some builds 00:37:18.449 --> 00:37:21.789 that we went to with all those packages pre -installed. 00:37:22.050 --> 00:37:25.380 And they're available from the the LHS podcast 00:37:25.380 --> 00:37:27.739 website, you can find torrents for those and 00:37:27.739 --> 00:37:30.880 download those ISO images. And you can basically 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.719 boot up a live image of Ubuntu on your system 00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:35.940 without ever installing anything that already 00:37:35.940 --> 00:37:38.400 has all those ham radio packages there. So you 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.960 can try them out, see if they work and configure 00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.920 them, whatever you want to do. It's a great resource 00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:48.940 to get started in Linux and I can't recommend 00:37:48.940 --> 00:37:53.929 it any more than that. Well lots of lots of choices 00:37:53.929 --> 00:38:01.050 there and You know, it's just so stable, you 00:38:01.050 --> 00:38:04.809 know, I'm tired of the blue screen of death all 00:38:04.809 --> 00:38:08.550 the time and then you know, I won't say it never 00:38:08.550 --> 00:38:14.150 happens but Seems like it's a whole lot less 00:38:14.150 --> 00:38:18.289 Yeah, it's very it's a very different world these 00:38:18.289 --> 00:38:21.110 days, and Linux is very stable, and I'm always 00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:23.929 amazed at what it, especially Ubuntu, they've 00:38:23.929 --> 00:38:26.309 done so much work and so much effort in making 00:38:26.309 --> 00:38:29.349 those, the packages and the operating system 00:38:29.349 --> 00:38:32.690 stable that it does seem completely different. 00:38:32.730 --> 00:38:35.670 So if you haven't tried Linux in a long time, 00:38:36.250 --> 00:38:40.269 it's definitely a good time to try it, because 00:38:40.269 --> 00:38:42.929 you will definitely be impressed with how well 00:38:42.929 --> 00:38:48.340 devices connect. Sometimes it's almost magical 00:38:48.340 --> 00:38:51.980 how it connects to random wireless printers that 00:38:51.980 --> 00:38:53.940 are already connected on your network that you 00:38:53.940 --> 00:38:55.619 would think that you have to manually search 00:38:55.619 --> 00:38:58.559 and install printers and all this stuff and find 00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.739 drivers for. You really don't have to do any 00:39:00.739 --> 00:39:04.000 of that stuff anymore. It's very much a plug 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.980 and play operating system. When it comes to amateur 00:39:06.980 --> 00:39:08.800 radio stuff, yeah, you do have to do a little 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:10.860 configuring because we do things a little different 00:39:10.860 --> 00:39:13.739 in the amateur radio community. So, uh, yeah, 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:15.559 I mean, expect a little effort there, but everything 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.719 else just using it for your daily driver is, 00:39:17.820 --> 00:39:22.019 is, is a no brainer these days. Well, here we 00:39:22.019 --> 00:39:24.300 go. Eight, one, two, six, three, four, two, six, 00:39:24.300 --> 00:39:26.900 one. We're about to finish up the show here. 00:39:27.139 --> 00:39:30.119 So if you're going to give us a call, I, uh, 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.980 you need to do that here soon, or, uh, you can 00:39:32.980 --> 00:39:35.940 tweet us. We're at ham talk live on Twitter. 00:39:36.380 --> 00:39:39.559 If you'd like to join in here and ask a question 00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:44.119 from Russ or Bill or Cheryl, be sure to do that. 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:48.260 And Cheryl, we've kind of haven't heard a whole 00:39:48.260 --> 00:39:52.219 lot from you tonight. So I wanted to take the 00:39:52.219 --> 00:39:57.760 opportunity here, which the website says that 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:02.300 the recipe part of the program, the recipe segment 00:40:02.300 --> 00:40:08.309 is Is the audience choice award winner Do you 00:40:08.309 --> 00:40:15.429 have a good? recipe for ham Actually, I do have 00:40:15.429 --> 00:40:19.670 a good recipe for ham It's the and Russ I'll 00:40:19.670 --> 00:40:22.469 tell the story real quick when Russ first moved 00:40:22.469 --> 00:40:27.570 to Missouri. He would not eat ham until he actually 00:40:27.570 --> 00:40:32.760 was able to partake of baked ham at Christmas 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:36.260 with my mother's glazed recipe on it. And now 00:40:36.260 --> 00:40:42.099 it is his go -to on ham. So, and he's usually 00:40:42.099 --> 00:40:43.880 the one going, no, no, no, I'll glaze it. I'll 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.400 glaze it. Let me glaze it. I want to glaze it. 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:50.099 So I was actually trying to look at our own website 00:40:50.099 --> 00:40:52.139 to see if you've talked about this particular 00:40:52.139 --> 00:40:55.460 ham recipe and I don't think you have. So, so 00:40:55.460 --> 00:40:58.579 now, since you've mentioned it here, That's what 00:40:58.579 --> 00:41:02.199 you're gonna have to do for the next one So glazed 00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.340 ham will be the recipe on the next show Okay, 00:41:06.500 --> 00:41:09.139 you heard it first here folks, it's gonna be 00:41:09.139 --> 00:41:12.900 on the next LHS podcast so You'll have to do 00:41:12.900 --> 00:41:15.920 that not now. Do you have recipes for things? 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.760 When you like, you know know that you've got 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:23.340 a podcast coming up or when you've got a Linux 00:41:23.340 --> 00:41:31.010 install coming up You know if we we do the I 00:41:31.010 --> 00:41:35.449 guess you'd call like the heathen You know show 00:41:35.449 --> 00:41:42.889 with the booze and not heathen hedonism We haven't 00:41:42.889 --> 00:41:52.329 gotten into heathen We do that show every other 00:41:52.329 --> 00:41:56.530 Monday so You know, we tend to record our short 00:41:56.530 --> 00:42:00.210 episode show, our short talk show, and that, 00:42:00.210 --> 00:42:04.070 you know, our evening show the same night. So 00:42:04.070 --> 00:42:06.789 I do have a little bit of time to think about, 00:42:06.989 --> 00:42:08.829 OK, so, you know, what recipe am I going to do 00:42:08.829 --> 00:42:12.929 this week? And most of the time, though not all 00:42:12.929 --> 00:42:19.670 the time, I offer a recipe that is like a staple 00:42:19.670 --> 00:42:23.300 in the house or whatever. I love to cook. And 00:42:23.300 --> 00:42:28.940 I actually do professional cake decorating. So 00:42:28.940 --> 00:42:31.519 Russ gets a little bit of everything thrown at 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:34.179 him in the house. And we had a discussion a few 00:42:34.179 --> 00:42:36.199 weeks ago where so far there's only been a couple 00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.460 of things that I've ever fixed that he has requested 00:42:39.460 --> 00:42:43.900 to not be fixed again. So I'm pretty sure on 00:42:43.900 --> 00:42:46.099 both of those, I was like, yeah, no, I'm good 00:42:46.099 --> 00:42:50.820 with that. So. I would like to jump back real 00:42:50.820 --> 00:42:54.039 quick to what Bill said about You know when when 00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.059 you're using the Linux operating system, sometimes 00:42:56.059 --> 00:42:58.380 we do things a little different in by we he's 00:42:58.380 --> 00:43:00.920 talking about open source and Linux and you know 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.679 specifically I would like to point out that the 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.559 purpose of Linux in the ham shack is to get you 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.739 over those hurdles where things are a little 00:43:09.739 --> 00:43:13.579 bit different where there might be you know a 00:43:13.579 --> 00:43:16.860 little bit of consternation in your mind or a 00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:20.059 Topic that isn't really clear or anything like 00:43:20.059 --> 00:43:23.480 that But if you're of a mind to migrate away 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.360 from Windows or from Mac OS and to use Linux 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.920 and to make it powerful for you and to make it 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.159 do all the things you want to, that's really 00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.900 the primary focus of the show. So we have a lot 00:43:33.900 --> 00:43:36.920 of resources. Our website is searchable. We have 00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.019 really good show notes. You can go through all 00:43:39.019 --> 00:43:41.860 of our back episodes and catalog and see all 00:43:41.860 --> 00:43:43.400 the things we've talked about. And we really 00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.219 try and make the transition or the day -to -day 00:43:46.219 --> 00:43:49.019 use of Linux easy. That's really the whole point. 00:43:49.849 --> 00:43:54.849 even though we do touch on other things. Okay, 00:43:54.849 --> 00:43:59.329 very good. Well, we are about out of time here 00:43:59.329 --> 00:44:02.369 tonight, but I want to thank you all for coming 00:44:02.369 --> 00:44:06.590 on the show and remind everybody again of the 00:44:06.590 --> 00:44:13.090 website. Which is LHS podcast dot info. That's 00:44:13.090 --> 00:44:17.559 Lima Hotel Sierra podcast dot info. Don't forget 00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:19.539 the info. Everyone does this whole calm thing. 00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:23.519 Nope, not calm dot info. Yeah. We got to, got 00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:26.519 to be a little different. So, you know that it 00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:33.719 was. And it was cheaper. Exactly. All right. 00:44:33.860 --> 00:44:36.980 Well, we're going to wrap things up here. Uh, 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.159 bill, any, any last words from the land of cheese? 00:44:45.269 --> 00:44:46.969 Oh, Bill's gone. Hey, well, I was going to ask 00:44:46.969 --> 00:44:52.210 him for a cheese recipe. Yeah, we should have, 00:44:52.289 --> 00:44:55.070 we should have a cheese recipe since he's in 00:44:55.070 --> 00:45:00.809 Milwaukee. Well, thanks so much for coming on 00:45:00.809 --> 00:45:03.989 the show and we invite everybody to take a listen. 00:45:04.010 --> 00:45:06.980 And if you're trying to. Um, make the switch 00:45:06.980 --> 00:45:10.400 to Linux. Uh, that's a great resource for you. 00:45:10.460 --> 00:45:15.679 LH pod LHS podcast .info and, um, check out the 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.559 show with, uh, Russ and Cheryl and Bill. So thanks 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:23.179 for coming on. Well, thank you very much. We 00:45:23.179 --> 00:45:27.880 appreciate it. Okay. Well, that is a wrap for 00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.099 this week's edition of ham talk live. Thanks 00:45:30.099 --> 00:45:34.219 to Russ Woodman, K five T U X Cheryl Jones. W5 00:45:34.219 --> 00:45:39.500 Moo and Bill Stearns in E4RD lost somewhere out 00:45:39.500 --> 00:45:43.019 in Milwaukee and we invite everybody out there 00:45:43.019 --> 00:45:46.860 in cyberspace for listening and calling in invite 00:45:46.860 --> 00:45:49.920 you all back next Thursday night at 9 p .m. 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