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Good evening everyone. It's time for ham talk
live. It's episode number 137 It's Lennox in
the ham shack recorded live on Thursday, October
18th 2018 I'm your host Neil rap WB 9 VPG. Thanks
for tuning in to this episode of ham talk live
tonight We're joined by the Linux in the ham
shack crew Russ woodman k5 tux Cheryl Jones,
W5MOO, and Bill Stearns, Ne4RD. And we'll take
your calls live in just a few minutes. Last week,
Jim Wilson, K5ND, and Bill Stearns, Ne4RD, the
aforementioned Bill Stearns. They were here to
talk about Jamboree on the air that's coming
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guest tonight, Russ Woodman. K5TUX first licensed
in 1993's N1UYE in northern Maine and when he
moved to Missouri he was assigned a zero call
and then the vanity call signs came along and
he got K5TUX to celebrate the whole Linux and
open source thing. He operates the digital modes
PSK 31, FreeDV, some CW, some sideband, and for
more than six years he's been the co -host of
the amateur radio podcast Linux in the Hamshack,
which records every other Monday night at 8 p
.m. Central Time. And you can find more information
about that at LHSpodcast .info. Cheryl Jones,
W5MOO, is the social media guru of the Lennox
in the ham shack podcast team and She makes a
mean piece of cake as well. She stays on top
of the news and Has the the recipe segment and
due to her Facebook addiction She is actually
friends on Facebook with Jaden K Smith Okay,
not really but We thought we'd throw that in
there. And Bill Stearns, NE4RD, is a self -proclaimed
nerd enough so that he made his call sign NE4RD.
And he was originally licensed in 1994 at the
Melbourne Hamfest in Florida as KE4RGH. And he's
been an active member of Civil Air Patrol, past
president of the Amateur Radio Association of
Southwest Florida. contest or satellite operator
and into some VHF stuff. And now he's in, uh,
lives in Billings, Montana with his wife and
three children. He's a software and systems engineer
podcast and generally nerdy guy. You can also
find him on Linux in the ham shack. And he's
been a co -host since May, 2016 and her reports
on radio scouting. on amateur radio news line
and, and right now he is somewhere in, in cheese
land in Wisconsin, like, like coming home from
dinner or something. I don't know, Russ, what,
what, what's going on here with bill. I don't
know what's going on bill with bill. I mean,
we never really do. Sometimes he's, uh, you know,
a normal kind of co -host guy and other times.
We don't know where his brain is, but apparently
he's just somewhere riding in a car in outside
of Milwaukee right now. I don't know what he's
doing, but there you go. I'm deep in the heart
of Milwaukee. Oh, there he is. He's back there.
There he is. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Stearns,
any for RD and I believe I'll have to go back
in the records and check, but I believe You're
the first person to be on the show back to back
weeks. I'm, I'm setting records daily. That's,
that's really what we are. And of course I did
want to make one correction. We do record every
Monday night. Now we changed up the format after
we took our break in, in October last year and
kind of took off the fourth quarter and we came
back January with a fury and we started doing
a podcast every week. So you can catch us on
LHS podcasts. Every week now. Well, that's what
I get for copying stuff off Apparently we have
some outdated information somewhere because I've
actually Been on the show since it started with
my first co -host or actual host Richard kb5
JBB and I want to say that our first episode
was released somewhere on or about this day October
back in 2008 so it's been 10 years Towards the
middle to end of October when the first show
So it might have actually been the 18th who knows
but it's been 10 years and we're still amazed
that we're still doing it Well, you're over 250
episodes now. So that's that's pretty impressive
We took the Mozilla route For the last year,
we retooled and decided to start putting out
episodes a lot more frequently so we could pump
those numbers up. Well, I got it. I got to tell
this story because this episode actually kind
of originated because of the following story.
I went to see a friend of mine in Springfield,
Missouri. Never been to Springfield, Missouri
before. And so I get to the hotel, we rush out
to Lambert's to dinner and get back, and I promised
all my satellite friends, hey, I'm going to get
some of those grid squares you need while I'm
on the trip. So I'm going back out to my car
at like 10 o 'clock at night from the hotel and
go to sit in the hotel parking lot, hoping that
no one sees me. Out there sitting by myself talking
into a microphone So that we can get these guys
they're they're grid squares and So I get in
the car I turn on my radio and I see that there's
somebody parked next to me and and There's this
guy sitting there alone in the car Next to me
and I'm like great. This guy's gonna see You
know that I'm out here Working satellites. He's
probably gonna think I'm you know, like, you
know Creating havoc of some kind and then all
of a sudden there's this knock on the window
And it's Russ So Russ is parked next to me at
the hotel and says hi just want to introduce
myself I'm k5 tux, you know, and I'm like, uh
-oh That was that was quite the adventure It
was interesting because I as you Put in here
that I was I was actually driving for uber that
night and just happened to roll into that particular
hotel Dropping off a rider who had you know been
out at the bar and enjoying himself that evening
So I pull in and I see this car with ham radio
antennas all over it and big ham talk live sticker
on it and WB9, VPG on the back and I'm like,
wait, I know that person. But you weren't in
the car at that time. So I dropped my rider off
and I pulled around and I parked next to you
and I'm like, okay, so what do I do now? How
do I make contact? With Neil, you know because
you weren't in the car and I didn't want to like
run into the lobby and say hey What room is Neil
in and all that? So I was thinking of actually
just you know writing a note and putting it under
your windshield wiper So you would pick it up
and see it the next day or whatever and say ah,
you know Ross k5 tux was here and saw and Then
all and all that I was getting I got back in
my car And I was just about to leave and all
of a sudden you walk out of the hotel to jump
in to start doing some satellite work I was like,
well, I couldn't believe my good luck. So, and
I'm sure, you know, while you were doing that,
you probably thought I was thinking you were
crazy. And I actually kind of thought you were
a little crazy. Right. Exactly. But there you
go. We met and here we are again. Yes, and here
we are again. And we said, oh, hey, we need to
do a show together at some point. So here we
are. So this podcast, Linux and the Ham Shack,
you're over 250 episodes now. And you guys talk
about an important aspect of ham radio. In fact,
it's one of the biggest things I think that's
happened to ham radio since I've been in ham
radio. at least, is computing. I mean, what's
a ham shack now without a computer there to log,
to interface with stuff, to do digital communications
and all kinds of stuff. But you get into some
other topics too. We get into the... recipe segment
and the the news and contests and and stuff like
that, but Tell the listeners a little bit about
the podcast and how they can tune in to you guys
All right, well we have had a few iterations
over the last ten years and the current iteration
We have split the show into a couple of different
Types of segments where now we do one week where
we'd pick a topic of particular interest and
we dive very deeply into it. We talk about everything
we know about it. Sometimes we bring in experts.
We let you know all of the resources we've found
about a particular thing. And we talk as much
about a particular topic as we can without we
hope getting too boring. And then on the alternate
weeks, we do sort of a double recording. We talk
about Contests and news in the amateur radio
world and in open source talk about conferences
that are coming up and things that you can do
in open source and in amateur radio and how you
can combine those two hobbies which is the focus
of our podcast and Then we kind of take a departure
and we record a second episode on alternate Mondays
where we just talk about the stuff We want to
talk about you know the good movies. We've seen
good music. We've listened to Some whiskey or
beer you should try out recipes and all that
kind of thing. So We've tried to make it as much
About as much as possible to be of interest to
as many people as possible and also just to keep
it interesting and fun So we hope we're doing
that but if you go back and listen to the earlier
episodes we were a lot more, you know, really
technology and amateur radio and open source
and computer focused and We still try to make
it fun, but we didn't dive into external topics
and things like that. But we always try to keep
it interesting. The original format used to be
a lot longer too. It used to be an hour and a
half to two hours per episode. Now we're chopping
that back to 30 to 45 minutes to give you smaller
nuggets and keep things moving faster and be
more entertaining. So that's what it's all about.
At least that's what we're trying to do. And
we touch on all kinds of weird things, too. Everything
from science to technology to what the ARRL is
doing to governments to how to use the computer
in your shack to, you know, just about any topic
you can think of. And then along comes this this
new co -host, because I read on your website
that you currently have a co -host hiatus program
for all your co -hosts. Yeah, they don't ever
really go away They just sort of semi retire
and we keep them up on the web page Just so everybody
knows who they once were and we're kind of like
a little bit like a meat grinder when it comes
to co -host You know, they come in we chew them
up. We spit them back out and then we move on
to the next one And Bill is the current iteration
of that right now. He hasn't been completely
ground into the floor yet. So he's still with
us Expect he may last till middle of 2019, something
like that before we have to replace him. But
yeah, exactly. The odds against me here. But
he he has done work with Aaron. So he's he was
familiar with podcasting. He just happened to
be in the right place in the right time when
the last co -host rich had to bail out on us.
And he jumped in, was able to fill the role with
no introduction or no instruction really. Uh,
just hit the ground running and you know, for
the last more than two years, uh, we've, uh,
I think really put a good thing together. Now,
bill, we're going to put you to work here. If,
if you're, you're where you can now, we're going
to talk about some, um, some digital modes and
how, you know, computing, um, whatever platform
you're on, um, has, uh, led to all these new
modes. And maybe, you know, we'll spend a little
bit of time specifically on Linux as well. But
let's talk about some of these digital modes
that are out there that computing has revolutionized
those in ham radio. Yeah, absolutely. I mean,
there was, I remember a time two years ago when
JT65 came out and And people started taking that
up and started growing and started growing. And
we started looking at the numbers of people switching
to digital versus CW and Sideband. And I remember
seeing a graph. I think we ran that graphic on
our podcast. The amount of contacts going into
Clubblog at the time had kind of like had a dramatic
step function. digital was going up and everything
else was going down and Yeah, and then and then
this thing came out about a year or so later
called FT 8 and oh my goodness, I haven't seen
a new graphic, but I'm sure that we had a we
have a whole new level of of changes in the dynamics
of what kind of contacts are going on now and
then you know, let's fast forward to you know,
just the past few weeks, there's this new thing
called JS8 call, which kind of uses the FT8 call
or FT8 protocols. They actually started out as
FT8 call, like we mentioned last week. Yeah.
And they had to change the name. And so now it's
JS8 call. And lo and behold, we're going to be
using it this weekend for jamboree on the air.
And it's starting to become quite pervasive.
And I just saw an email from the ARRL just yesterday
from the contest thing that we're going to be
using FT8 at the Ritty Roundup coming in January.
So, yeah, this stuff has taken the whole world
by storm for amateur radio. And it's great because
the tools come from, you know, Joe Taylor and
his group there over at, what was that, Princeton?
Yeah, and yeah, and it's cross platform. It's
available in Mac OS You know Windows and Linux
and even JSA call is is is available everywhere
I mean these people are finally getting the point
that you know if you're gonna put something out
in amateur radio, which is the original open
source You know, you need to have it so it's
available everywhere and that there's no limitations
on what we can use. So yeah, it's a great time
to be an amateur radio right now. Yeah, I was
doing some upgrading today of some software at
school and noticed that in one of the updates,
I think it was maybe DX keeper or N1MM one of
them was an update because you know the ready
roundup is going to have FTA in it and that just
came out so there's already in the software update
so you know they're getting ready for that and
so it'll be interesting and you know the The
Baker Island the expedition died the only contacts
I made were on ft8. That was the only way I could
get through Oh, did he jump off Ft8 it ft8 is
nice in that way, especially because it has like
a multi multi contact mode forget what they call
it exactly I've slept since then But it allows
you to kind of join in on Pilots and let FTA
call users, or not FTA call users, but FTA users
pick out multiple contacts simultaneously. So
you can really get in. And since the WSJT protocols
are all weak signal modes, you can get through
even on, you know, SNRs that... Would be funnel
any other amateur radio mode. So it's a great
thing which is probably why it's become so popular
and ubiquitous Yeah, it's it's really taken off.
So Well, we're going to take a break. We're going
to see if we can find Bill. And we're going to,
we're running a little over here. So we're going
to take a break. We'll find Bill. We'll come
back and talk a little raspberry pie and some
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And now's the time to do that. And oh, we've
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So many other podcasts have no ham radio or tech
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you for, uh, for writing in here. Well, let's,
uh, let's take some calls here. 8126384261 is
the number to call. But when we last left, and
we're trying to find Bill, we were going to talk
a little bit about the Raspberry Pi. Now, that's
been my experience with Linux was we were hosting
an IRLP, an echo link node, on the repeater.
And since I've finally had to give up repeaters
because they were too far away and I just didn't
have the time to do them right anymore. But,
um, the raspberry PI replaced this huge old desktop
computer that we had at the site. And, um, and
just made all the difference in the world, but
you had to know a little bit of, uh, Linux to
get it going. So let's talk a little bit about,
uh, the raspberry PI and some of the things that
you can do with it, uh, with the amateur radio.
That's definitely a rust thing. Uh, I only own
the Odroid. But I can tell you my experience
with the Odroid and running Ubuntu on the Odroid
is great. We actually, at the Hamvention last
year, we set up the big TV that Russ brought
over for our display and our slide presentation.
We set that up on our little Odroid X1 and running
the latest LHS build of Linux. for Ubuntu or
Ubuntu Linux. And yeah, we're great. Obviously
all the software installed and everything else.
But I think Russ has been messing around with
Raspberry Pis for quite a while. So Russ, why
don't you talk about your Raspberry Pi experience?
Well, I have been dealing with Raspberry Pis
for a little while, but all of these, like the
Odroid and the Raspberry Pi and the Beagle Bone
in there. And all of these platforms, they all
are sort of lumped into the category of single
board computers, which is just simply an entire
computer on a little PC board. And they tend
to be inexpensive and they tend to have all of
the same interfaces, like they'll provide you
with USB, they'll provide you with some kind
of network interface, like a one gig ethernet.
They usually have an HDMI interface for your
output video, and then they will have GPIO pins
that allow you to do different things with them.
The GPIO tends to be where these become very
powerful because you can build or buy, add on
hats or daughter cards, to do specific things.
So you can turn them into DMR repeaters or echo
link nodes or IRLP nodes or whatever. But at
their core, they're simply just tiny little computers
and they're inexpensive to run. You can buy them.
You usually have to spend more for the case to
put them in than you actually spent for the computer
itself. And since they're usually running atom
based processors, they're very powerful. multi
-core processors for the size of the units. Because
they're based on the Atom chipset, Linux works
really well on them because there are many distributions
that are built for the Atom chipset. But even
the latest Raspberry Pis will run Windows 10.
They don't run them well, but they will run them.
So at the core, they're just little compact.
PCs basically and you can do so much with them.
They're very flexible. They're inexpensive You
can and since the you know amateur radio world
is is now computer connected and computer driven
and that's what's keeping amateur radio as a
hobby relevant These are very popular And and
they just have I mean, there's a million things
you can do I don't even know where to begin touching
on on the stuff you can do and just a lot of
different things and I finally got to the point
even where I had the Raspite sending out APRS
beacons for the repeater and that kind of thing
on the side and I had another one that was streaming
the audio for it, so They worked really well
for just that one specific purpose, you know,
it was it was no problem. There was plenty of
power there to To get the job done so that there's
a just a lot a lot going on there well eight
one two six three eight four two six one is the
phone number if you'd like to call in or you
can tweet us or at ham talk live on there and
Bill why don't you talk a little bit about some
of the software that's available specifically
for Linux that is available for ham radio applications
Well, yeah, you can just do about anything you
want an amateur radio with the software on Linux
All the way from a full featured logging program
like CQR log which allows you to do everything
from you know doing a DX You know DX Logger sorry
Brain is failing on me as I'm driving through
Milwaukee right now. Full featured, yeah, you
log with the World Club log. Just about everything
you can do has remote abilities for connecting
to FL Digi to do all your digital modes. WSJTX
to do all the FT8 modes, JT65, Moonbounce, you
name it. It's all available in that. to a very
simple straightforward programs for logging like
x log, pi log, pi QSO, and stuff like that. We
have a multitude of applications to do all kinds
of audio digital stuff. Like I said earlier,
FLTG and stuff like that. You have Linux PSK
among others. We also have all kinds of stuff
for doing training and education. Whether you're
studying Morse code or studying for your ham
exam and stuff like that There's this package
set Do you install a Debian based system and
that would also be the same for Ubuntu? Called
the ham radio pure blend packages and these are
made of packages that basically combine a bunch
of different amateur radio applications But people
in the car are laughing at me. A bunch of amateur
radio applications for just about every task.
And it's all separated out by the task, like
whether that be satellite, rig control, logging,
antenna building, anything. I mean, it's just
amazing what's out there. And that's a great
way to start. And we put together some builds
that we went to with all those packages pre -installed.
And they're available from the the LHS podcast
website, you can find torrents for those and
download those ISO images. And you can basically
boot up a live image of Ubuntu on your system
without ever installing anything that already
has all those ham radio packages there. So you
can try them out, see if they work and configure
them, whatever you want to do. It's a great resource
to get started in Linux and I can't recommend
it any more than that. Well lots of lots of choices
there and You know, it's just so stable, you
know, I'm tired of the blue screen of death all
the time and then you know, I won't say it never
happens but Seems like it's a whole lot less
Yeah, it's very it's a very different world these
days, and Linux is very stable, and I'm always
amazed at what it, especially Ubuntu, they've
done so much work and so much effort in making
those, the packages and the operating system
stable that it does seem completely different.
So if you haven't tried Linux in a long time,
it's definitely a good time to try it, because
you will definitely be impressed with how well
devices connect. Sometimes it's almost magical
how it connects to random wireless printers that
are already connected on your network that you
would think that you have to manually search
and install printers and all this stuff and find
drivers for. You really don't have to do any
of that stuff anymore. It's very much a plug
and play operating system. When it comes to amateur
radio stuff, yeah, you do have to do a little
configuring because we do things a little different
in the amateur radio community. So, uh, yeah,
I mean, expect a little effort there, but everything
else just using it for your daily driver is,
is, is a no brainer these days. Well, here we
go. Eight, one, two, six, three, four, two, six,
one. We're about to finish up the show here.
So if you're going to give us a call, I, uh,
you need to do that here soon, or, uh, you can
tweet us. We're at ham talk live on Twitter.
If you'd like to join in here and ask a question
from Russ or Bill or Cheryl, be sure to do that.
And Cheryl, we've kind of haven't heard a whole
lot from you tonight. So I wanted to take the
opportunity here, which the website says that
the recipe part of the program, the recipe segment
is Is the audience choice award winner Do you
have a good? recipe for ham Actually, I do have
a good recipe for ham It's the and Russ I'll
tell the story real quick when Russ first moved
to Missouri. He would not eat ham until he actually
was able to partake of baked ham at Christmas
with my mother's glazed recipe on it. And now
it is his go -to on ham. So, and he's usually
the one going, no, no, no, I'll glaze it. I'll
glaze it. Let me glaze it. I want to glaze it.
So I was actually trying to look at our own website
to see if you've talked about this particular
ham recipe and I don't think you have. So, so
now, since you've mentioned it here, That's what
you're gonna have to do for the next one So glazed
ham will be the recipe on the next show Okay,
you heard it first here folks, it's gonna be
on the next LHS podcast so You'll have to do
that not now. Do you have recipes for things?
When you like, you know know that you've got
a podcast coming up or when you've got a Linux
install coming up You know if we we do the I
guess you'd call like the heathen You know show
with the booze and not heathen hedonism We haven't
gotten into heathen We do that show every other
Monday so You know, we tend to record our short
episode show, our short talk show, and that,
you know, our evening show the same night. So
I do have a little bit of time to think about,
OK, so, you know, what recipe am I going to do
this week? And most of the time, though not all
the time, I offer a recipe that is like a staple
in the house or whatever. I love to cook. And
I actually do professional cake decorating. So
Russ gets a little bit of everything thrown at
him in the house. And we had a discussion a few
weeks ago where so far there's only been a couple
of things that I've ever fixed that he has requested
to not be fixed again. So I'm pretty sure on
both of those, I was like, yeah, no, I'm good
with that. So. I would like to jump back real
quick to what Bill said about You know when when
you're using the Linux operating system, sometimes
we do things a little different in by we he's
talking about open source and Linux and you know
specifically I would like to point out that the
purpose of Linux in the ham shack is to get you
over those hurdles where things are a little
bit different where there might be you know a
little bit of consternation in your mind or a
Topic that isn't really clear or anything like
that But if you're of a mind to migrate away
from Windows or from Mac OS and to use Linux
and to make it powerful for you and to make it
do all the things you want to, that's really
the primary focus of the show. So we have a lot
of resources. Our website is searchable. We have
really good show notes. You can go through all
of our back episodes and catalog and see all
the things we've talked about. And we really
try and make the transition or the day -to -day
use of Linux easy. That's really the whole point.
even though we do touch on other things. Okay,
very good. Well, we are about out of time here
tonight, but I want to thank you all for coming
on the show and remind everybody again of the
website. Which is LHS podcast dot info. That's
Lima Hotel Sierra podcast dot info. Don't forget
the info. Everyone does this whole calm thing.
Nope, not calm dot info. Yeah. We got to, got
to be a little different. So, you know that it
was. And it was cheaper. Exactly. All right.
Well, we're going to wrap things up here. Uh,
bill, any, any last words from the land of cheese?
Oh, Bill's gone. Hey, well, I was going to ask
him for a cheese recipe. Yeah, we should have,
we should have a cheese recipe since he's in
Milwaukee. Well, thanks so much for coming on
the show and we invite everybody to take a listen.
And if you're trying to. Um, make the switch
to Linux. Uh, that's a great resource for you.
LH pod LHS podcast .info and, um, check out the
show with, uh, Russ and Cheryl and Bill. So thanks
for coming on. Well, thank you very much. We
appreciate it. Okay. Well, that is a wrap for
this week's edition of ham talk live. Thanks
to Russ Woodman, K five T U X Cheryl Jones. W5
Moo and Bill Stearns in E4RD lost somewhere out
in Milwaukee and we invite everybody out there
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