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Hey, good evening everyone. It's time for HamTalk

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Live. It's episode number 138. The VP6D Doocy

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Island D Expedition recorded live on Thursday,

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October 25th, 2018. I'm your host, Neil Rapp,

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WB9 VPG. Thanks for tuning in to this episode

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of HamTalk Live. Tonight we're joined by Glenn

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Petrie, KE4KY. and Gene Spinelli K5GS and we'll

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guest tonight is Glen Petrie, KE4KY. He's been

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a licensed amateur radio operator since 1975.

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First as WN4CSH and then WA4CSH. Glen spends

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his time chasing DX or participating in the major

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contests throughout the year, especially with

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CW and RIDDY. He's been on the expeditions himself,

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including ZL9HR and VK9MT, along with Gene Spinelli,

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K5GS, who we will hopefully talk to live on Ducey

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Island at the bottom of the hour. He is the chief

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pilot for the VP6D Ducey Island De -Expedition,

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and his wife has excellent taste in what college

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team to cheer for, but just to show that I Don't

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discriminate as a Kentucky Wildcats fan. Yes,

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I've invited a Louisville Cardinals fan to be

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on the show. Glenn, thanks for coming on. Well,

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thank you very much. And I'm very happy to be

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able to represent the EP6D De -Expedition team

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on your show tonight. And we won't mention anything

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about red or blue. No, we won't. But just real

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quick. My wife Alinda we're gonna have a 35th

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wedding anniversary in a few days So I can't

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thank her enough for her allowances for over

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the years Here especially here recently to let

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me go on the 2d Expeditions that I went on because

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it did take a lot of time a lot of resources

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And I couldn't have done it without the without

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the help of her You're a very smart man to remember

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to say that so yeah brownie points Exactly Well,

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tell us how this DXpedition for Ducey Island

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came about and the website and all the funding

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and everything about getting this one off and

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rolling. Well, the VP6D DXpedition was formed

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after the 2017 International DX Convention out

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in Visalia, California. The people that organized

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this one also organized VK9MT, also TX3X, Chesterfield

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Islands here just in 2015. So basically what

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they did was they formed up a team with the team

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leaders, Gene being one of the co -organizers.

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The team leader for this is Dave, K3EL, Les,

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W2LK. What they try to do with our mission statement

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is we try to go to rare, semi -rare DX locations,

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entity locations. Basically, when you're starting

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to get in the wheelhouse of being in the top

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30, top 25, you're in those areas where this

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team likes to try to organize their DX expeditions.

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And the funny thing was is that after this was

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formed, what we determined was because of what

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Club Log did to a lot of their statistics, it

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kept rising in its most wanted status. It was

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in the high 20s. And then as they started to

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do some research with the numbers and the gentleman

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that runs Club Log started crunching numbers,

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it ended up being number 19 overall most wanted

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as far as Club Log is concerned. So we were very

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happy that this ended up being a top 20 de -expedition.

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And the last time Doocy was on the air as a D

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expedition with VP6DX in 2008. Sometimes you'll

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see some overlap of some people that have been

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somewhere before, but all of the team members

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that are on VP6D, this is their first trip to

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Doocy. One thing about it is that the Braveheart

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also went to Doocy in 2008, and that was their

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transportation of choice after they started.

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trying to cull all of the opportunities to get

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to the island. The Braveheart was the was the

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choice, the best choice for this particular de

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-expedition. So they were able to to use a repeat

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on that. One thing about Ducey Island is it's

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uninhabited. It basically is ran by the Pitcairn

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government. It's in a protected marine area,

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which means you have to do a lot of extra special

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things. And when it comes to these de -expeditions,

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sometimes the funding becomes more important

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because it's harder to get into some of these

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areas because of the protected status. And so

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it's in a protected area, which means it takes

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a little bit more for an operator of a boat,

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a ship, to be able to get in there. After the

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formation of the team, the most important thing

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obviously was getting the license, getting the

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permission to actually be on the island, securing

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everybody's passport and credentialing to be

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able to get in through customs and so forth.

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It's about 535 kilometers east of Pitcairn Island.

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Another de -expedition has just stated they're

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going to Pitcairn here pretty soon. And Pitcairn

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Island has a historical context from the standpoint

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of the Christian, Tom Christian, Mutiny on the

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Bounty that a lot of us have seen the movie and

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also read the book. So it kind of places it in

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an area of the Pacific Ocean that a lot of us

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can have visions of what it's like to be there

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already just from those different things. Right

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now the team is composed of 14 radio operators.

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I can go through those later if somebody would

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like to, to be able to go over the operators.

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Most of the operators on these de -expeditions,

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usually in these, the ones that are the most

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wanted, you're gonna see a lot of people that

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have had prior de -expedition experience before.

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They come from a background of de -expeditioning.

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extensive contest experience and so that's where

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our team pretty much comes from is from people

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who have either done the expeditions large or

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small or they're accomplished in the the contesting

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world as well and so equipment is one of the

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biggest problems with with the logistics of getting

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all the equipment there how do you get it there

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getting it shipped there through customs and

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then suppliers for the equipment. We cannot thank

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the people that have helped us out with equipment

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such as Ellicraft, the antenna suppliers, just

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everything that we can think of. And I encourage

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everyone to go to the VP6D website and look at

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the people that have been supporters of the D

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Expedition from the standpoint. of corporate

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sponsors, and those are the people that you see

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routinely supporting de -expeditions, whether

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it's ours, whether it's Heard Island, or anybody

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else that you can think of for good, the Baker

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Island, the one that just finished, you're gonna

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see the same corporations, the same companies

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that have stepped up each time to support de

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-exing in the amateur radio ranks, and so try

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to support those people that support us. Yeah,

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it's really important that you have that support.

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I know these things are not cheap and It's really

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important to have all that equipment around so

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you can be ready to go and deal with things that

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may not work right and all that. You know, you

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can't just run out to the store and pick up something

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while you're on Ducey Island. So it's real important

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to have that. So let's talk a little bit about

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the funding of this. How did the funding go?

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How's the fundraising going? And tell us a little

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bit about that and if people want to donate,

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how they can do that. Well, they can still donate

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to the vp6d .com page. We'll be more than happy

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to accept any donation, large or small, and it

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doesn't have to be all that big. Corporately,

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if more DXers just chipped in in a small sort

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of way, it could help these DXpeditions in a

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big fashion. Think the funding goal for VP 60.

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I was looking on the website. It has been met

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since the expedition started, but I believe it

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was the total I have it right in front of me

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the total of the of the D expedition budget was

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about a hundred seventy five thousand dollars

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was budgeted for the for the D expedition to

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cover all of our costs And what we were hoping

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to raise on the website was about $65 ,000. And

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according to the website, when I looked at it,

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it doesn't give a total amount. But we have exceeded

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what our goal was just through the web page of

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$65 ,000. So anything that anybody gives beyond

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this is just going to help defray some of the

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additional costs that we incurred for shipment.

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The team is trying to pick up about 50 % or better

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of the de -expedition cost. And so any of the

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donations that come in just help to defray that

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and help the de -expeditioners because none of

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the monies that's donated by any of the foundations,

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clubs or individuals go for airfare, go for the

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stay or food or anything like that of the teams

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while they're positioning and ready to go on

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the de -expedition. All of those all of those

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monies go directly to de -expedition related

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costs. So the de -expeditioners themselves have

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to come up with a lot of money. Sometimes it's

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more than others depending on where they're going.

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for airfare to get to where they're going to

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stage, to stay for the two or three days before

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and after the de -expedition in order to get

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equipment and other things sorted out, loaded

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on a boat or loaded on a plane, depending on

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where they're going. So all of those costs are

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absorbed by the de -expeditioners themselves.

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So anytime that there's any extra that can be

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left over to help defray some of the extra costs

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that the team decides to pick up on their own,

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it goes a long way. Trust me, it's not a making

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venture for any of the DXpeditioners. All of

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the money that's spent, I mean still a lot goes

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out of the DXpeditioners pocket and so it's just

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nice and it's very nice for the DX community

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to be able to look at the DXpeditioners and thank

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them for what they're doing, for going out and

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doing this by supporting them as best they can

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individually. Well, that's an understatement.

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And we really appreciate all that they've done

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and appreciate all those that are supporting

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the cause. Well, we're going to talk a little

00:18:45.819 --> 00:18:50.380
bit about how to work the team and I'm just going

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to play a couple of clips here actually. Monday

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night I got on from home on the dipole at 10

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o 'clock at night on 20 meters Which was a bad

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idea to start with and and I could hear but it

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was really weak I couldn't get through so kind

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of gave up quick, but Yesterday I ran up to the

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school shack after school And just thought, oh,

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we'll see if I can have any luck. And I had them

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within two minutes. No more than got the radio

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on, set the split up, and was on the air and

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got them on the first call on 20 meters. So I

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decided, well, we'll run over to 15 and see what

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we get. And I get there on 15, and I have to

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work at it for a little while. But then I hear

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this. Kilo Echo, four kilo Yankee, Haigland,

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five nine. Thanks, yeah, well we're getting some

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good numbers really pleased with it and thanks

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for all your support Yeah, we hope so we're shooting

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for that 7 -3 Glenn have fun. This is Victor

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Papa 6 Delta 5 to 15 So I caught you working

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them This is awesome. That is absolutely awesome.

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I when you sent me that I was so surprised that

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that was just just great So I hung in there for

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a few more minutes and and this is how mine went.

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You know Bravo eight Romeo Yankee five nine I

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Mean there's some there's some stateside stuff.

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That's not that clear. I mean that they were

00:20:56.259 --> 00:21:00.480
just booing in Yes, they were absolutely booming

00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.319
in and very quickly when I when I worked Steve

00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:06.440
yesterday or the other when you got that clip

00:21:06.779 --> 00:21:09.160
I was just sitting there listening to him for

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probably close to an hour and he just kept building

00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.079
and building in strength. And so finally I just

00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.440
decided to give it a try. And so it took about

00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:19.740
maybe five minutes worth of trying out. I didn't

00:21:19.740 --> 00:21:22.299
flip on the amplifier. It was just the 100 watts

00:21:22.299 --> 00:21:25.440
with the 10 element log that I have up about

00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.119
60 feet. And it didn't take too long, I don't

00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:31.980
feel like it took too long, but it was very good

00:21:31.980 --> 00:21:34.759
to be able to speak to a team member. I've worked

00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:36.859
with him on the back side, doing some testing

00:21:36.859 --> 00:21:39.380
with some things, so it was just very gratifying

00:21:39.380 --> 00:21:41.940
to be able to speak to a team member and express

00:21:41.940 --> 00:21:43.880
to them how good of a job that they're really

00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:45.920
doing because sometimes when you're there and

00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:47.680
you're tired, you're fatigued, you're either

00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:50.079
hot, you're either cold, depending on where you're

00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:52.319
at, it's just very good to be able to have a

00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:54.420
friendly voice, somebody you know go say, hey,

00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:56.579
you all were just doing a bang. job, just keep

00:21:56.579 --> 00:22:01.259
it up. Yeah. And I had to laugh at the, uh, he's

00:22:01.259 --> 00:22:05.660
working the split because Monday night I went

00:22:05.660 --> 00:22:09.400
upstairs, got on the X summit, found out what

00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:12.059
the split was, put, put everything into both

00:22:12.059 --> 00:22:17.180
VFOs had it all ready to go. And about a minute

00:22:17.180 --> 00:22:20.500
later I hear he is working split. And I'm thinking,

00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:23.589
Oh geez, you know, somebody's not. not doing

00:22:23.589 --> 00:22:26.589
this right and then I look down and oh that's

00:22:26.589 --> 00:22:30.789
me I forgot to hit the split button I had had

00:22:30.789 --> 00:22:33.029
all the frequencies in everything ready to go

00:22:33.029 --> 00:22:36.690
so it's been happening quite a bit in fact uh

00:22:36.690 --> 00:22:39.950
even saw a post 12 ago somebody said we should

00:22:39.950 --> 00:22:43.670
start a VP 60 drinking game that uh every time

00:22:43.670 --> 00:22:47.509
you hear he's working split you take one so I

00:22:47.509 --> 00:22:54.779
don't know so so they're working split Yes. So,

00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:58.259
we can remember that. We all do that, you know.

00:22:58.500 --> 00:23:00.500
Yeah, I mean it happens to the best of us that

00:23:00.500 --> 00:23:03.359
we don't hit split button or something catches

00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:05.940
our, or we're trying too fast to get to where

00:23:05.940 --> 00:23:08.579
we're going, but as long as you recognize it

00:23:08.579 --> 00:23:10.640
quick, it's just recognized as something that

00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:15.400
happens. The other thing that's happening is

00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:20.559
FT8, new mode for the Expeditions. You know just

00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:24.980
recently that started being used and there's

00:23:24.980 --> 00:23:30.259
still some misconfigured FT8 stuff going on Well,

00:23:30.259 --> 00:23:33.500
what's happening is and there was just a I just

00:23:33.500 --> 00:23:35.420
received an email something that's going to be

00:23:35.420 --> 00:23:40.660
going out to all of the the editors DX world

00:23:40.660 --> 00:23:44.470
DX news some of the bulletins and so forth And

00:23:44.470 --> 00:23:46.589
what they have here is they have two camps. They

00:23:46.589 --> 00:23:49.390
have a sideband camp, a CW camp, and in the middle

00:23:49.390 --> 00:23:53.930
is a headquarters. And the two station camps

00:23:53.930 --> 00:23:57.890
are a kilometer apart. And so what they have

00:23:57.890 --> 00:23:59.730
is they have this infrastructure that they had

00:23:59.730 --> 00:24:02.609
to lay out in order to be able to send the data

00:24:02.609 --> 00:24:04.589
back and forth, in order to be able to get up

00:24:04.589 --> 00:24:09.309
to DXA, in order to be able to get to the logs

00:24:09.309 --> 00:24:12.589
and so forth, the way the computers are networked

00:24:12.589 --> 00:24:16.569
for logging. And so this network infrastructure,

00:24:16.970 --> 00:24:20.470
it has just been tenuous. It has just been difficult

00:24:20.470 --> 00:24:23.309
for them to keep up. They've been drenched for

00:24:23.309 --> 00:24:25.150
the last couple of days. And I'm sure if Gene

00:24:25.150 --> 00:24:26.970
gets on, he will tell you that they just started

00:24:26.970 --> 00:24:30.289
drying out today from some torrential rains that

00:24:30.289 --> 00:24:31.970
they've had, some storms, a little bit of wind,

00:24:32.069 --> 00:24:34.589
but nothing that caused any damage. And so it's

00:24:34.589 --> 00:24:36.490
just one of these things where these networks

00:24:36.490 --> 00:24:42.160
are just, they're not 100%. And so they're noticing

00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:44.759
a lot of dupes, a lot of duplicates. And what

00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.019
they're going to be asking is that if you've

00:24:47.019 --> 00:24:48.920
already worked them, just give them a chance.

00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:54.299
And I have been assured that there are no lost

00:24:54.299 --> 00:24:58.359
QSOs. Now, some people are saying it shows up

00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.259
on DXA, but it doesn't show up in the log. Then

00:25:01.259 --> 00:25:05.339
vice versa. I have a FTA 17 meter contact that

00:25:05.339 --> 00:25:08.619
showed up on DXA. My call rolled over the internet.

00:25:08.829 --> 00:25:12.750
on DXA just like it should. It registers on DXA

00:25:12.750 --> 00:25:15.650
as a band slot, but it's yet to be uploaded to

00:25:15.650 --> 00:25:17.869
the log. I'm personally not going to worry about

00:25:17.869 --> 00:25:20.509
it because it's one of those things that in order

00:25:20.509 --> 00:25:23.009
for it to get to DXA, it had to go through a

00:25:23.009 --> 00:25:26.089
log, so it's somewhere. So I'm sure they'll work

00:25:26.089 --> 00:25:31.509
it out. And it's caused a little bit of angst

00:25:31.509 --> 00:25:35.339
among the DXers because Number one, they want

00:25:35.339 --> 00:25:37.460
to see it on DXA. And then number two, there

00:25:37.460 --> 00:25:41.019
have been some FTA CUSOs that have not ended

00:25:41.019 --> 00:25:45.059
up in the log. There's also been some CW contacts

00:25:45.059 --> 00:25:47.539
that did not initially end up in an upload. And

00:25:47.539 --> 00:25:49.559
I think they've caught up with that because the

00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:53.140
network was down because of the rain that they

00:25:53.140 --> 00:25:56.119
were experiencing. And I think that was addressed

00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:58.579
in a statement that came out from the island

00:25:58.579 --> 00:26:02.519
today. Gene is able to send some things to Twitter,

00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:04.940
and I think you could probably tell when it's

00:26:04.940 --> 00:26:07.539
me doing things on social media, either Facebook

00:26:07.539 --> 00:26:10.259
or Twitter, as opposed to the statements that

00:26:10.259 --> 00:26:12.200
sound like they are coming directly from the

00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.539
island itself. So Gene does have the ability

00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:17.380
to be able to send those Twitter posts, and I

00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:19.099
think there was something that was sent out today

00:26:19.099 --> 00:26:22.700
about don't worry about the lost CWQs. They're

00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:26.420
there. They'll get up. So it has been a little

00:26:26.420 --> 00:26:29.339
bit of a challenge for them and my inbox has

00:26:29.339 --> 00:26:33.680
been overloaded with emails about the FT8, the

00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:38.019
DXA, and some missing QSO issues. The best I

00:26:38.019 --> 00:26:41.180
can tell you is I can't do anything about what

00:26:41.180 --> 00:26:44.920
is either in the log or not in the log. I can't

00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.460
check the log. I don't have access to logs. All

00:26:47.460 --> 00:26:49.380
I can tell you to do is if you think you have

00:26:49.380 --> 00:26:52.980
a good QSO, if you can get a snippet or a screenshot

00:26:52.980 --> 00:26:58.279
of it, save it. If you can print the FTH string

00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:01.819
that shows that you got the Roger Roger 73, keep

00:27:01.819 --> 00:27:04.920
it. After the de -expedition is over with, well

00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:06.940
after the de -expedition is over with, let the

00:27:06.940 --> 00:27:10.740
guys come home, unpack their suitcases, and then

00:27:10.740 --> 00:27:14.529
you can start our webpage very clearly states

00:27:14.529 --> 00:27:17.750
if you think you have a busted call and not in

00:27:17.750 --> 00:27:20.069
log and you are sure that you made the contact

00:27:20.069 --> 00:27:22.829
there is a mechanism for you to do an inquiry.

00:27:23.180 --> 00:27:25.079
And that's what we're asking everybody to do

00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:28.000
is just be patient. And so there's a mechanism

00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:31.319
there to try to get you your cue and get you

00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:34.980
credit for it. And I'm sure that we have on the

00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:37.400
island, I know of two guys that are programmers.

00:27:37.660 --> 00:27:39.599
There's probably some other folks that are there

00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:43.180
on the island that are also IT equivalent. So

00:27:43.180 --> 00:27:46.480
it's not like this is. something that's escaping

00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.519
them because of inexperience or inability. I

00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:53.019
think it just has a lot to do with a lot of issues

00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:56.400
with the infrastructure, the rain, the networks

00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.339
that are having to use. And so it's just one

00:27:58.339 --> 00:27:59.740
of those things. It's just one of those things

00:27:59.740 --> 00:28:02.599
that happen. And all you can do is say, we're

00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:05.880
sorry for it, but we're marching forward. All

00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:07.759
right. Well, I want to get to our break because

00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.519
we're expecting a call from Gene and we don't

00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:14.039
want to keep them on hold with satellite phone

00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.160
calls. So we're gonna take a break. We'll be

00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:19.160
back with Glenn and hopefully Gene live from

00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:21.680
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00:31:09.029 --> 00:31:13.910
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00:31:13.910 --> 00:31:18.609
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00:31:18.609 --> 00:31:21.890
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00:31:21.890 --> 00:31:25.329
off on that until we see if Jean can get through

00:31:25.329 --> 00:31:30.799
on the on the satellite phone but We hope to

00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.900
have a report from him live. So we'll give him

00:31:33.900 --> 00:31:37.539
a minute or two Glenn one thing that we wanted

00:31:37.539 --> 00:31:40.900
to talk about was on the other end on the user

00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:44.940
end of FT8 A lot of people are not configuring

00:31:44.940 --> 00:31:49.359
their their FT8 correctly to to be heard down

00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:53.420
there Yes, they need to make sure that they're

00:31:53.420 --> 00:31:59.180
using one of the latest versions of the FTA program

00:31:59.529 --> 00:32:01.349
I should have written it down, but I don't. But

00:32:01.349 --> 00:32:06.130
they can go to our p6d .com page, and they will

00:32:06.130 --> 00:32:09.809
find the FT8 instructions there. The most important

00:32:09.809 --> 00:32:12.710
thing is to be in the Fox Hound mode. If you're

00:32:12.710 --> 00:32:15.930
not in Fox Hound mode, you're going to be causing

00:32:15.930 --> 00:32:21.490
a lot of inadvertent QRM. I imagine what it could

00:32:21.490 --> 00:32:24.029
do is if you thought you were parking yourself

00:32:24.029 --> 00:32:27.309
on top of their transmit frequency, the streams

00:32:27.309 --> 00:32:29.490
that they're they're transmitting out is you

00:32:29.490 --> 00:32:31.230
would just be blocking them from somebody that

00:32:31.230 --> 00:32:33.230
they're trying to work. So it's very important.

00:32:33.230 --> 00:32:37.309
I think we've got Gene on the line here. So let's

00:32:37.309 --> 00:32:41.150
hang on. We'll come back to that. Gene. Hey,

00:32:41.309 --> 00:32:43.829
welcome to Hamcock Live all the way from Ducey

00:32:43.829 --> 00:32:49.740
Island. Thank you. We're happy to be here. All

00:32:49.740 --> 00:32:53.920
right, this is Gene Spinelli K5GS live on Ducey

00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:57.180
Island. So Gene, I know you don't have a whole

00:32:57.180 --> 00:33:00.859
lot of time here. So tell us what's going on

00:33:00.859 --> 00:33:05.759
at the moment. Well, at the moment the rain has

00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.579
finally stopped. It's been raining here for about

00:33:08.579 --> 00:33:12.740
three days and we've been heavily saturated both

00:33:12.740 --> 00:33:16.789
outside and inside the tents. having a little

00:33:16.789 --> 00:33:19.549
difficulty, but I think as of this afternoon

00:33:19.549 --> 00:33:22.650
we're drying out. I'm standing on the northeast

00:33:22.650 --> 00:33:25.069
side of the island staring out at the Pacific

00:33:25.069 --> 00:33:29.210
Ocean. The Braveheart is anchored about 300 meters

00:33:29.210 --> 00:33:35.990
from shore. We have three camps built. One camp

00:33:35.990 --> 00:33:38.529
is the central camp we call the headquarters,

00:33:38.670 --> 00:33:41.809
where we keep our computers and satellite uplinks.

00:33:41.869 --> 00:33:46.079
We have another tent called the single sideband

00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:50.700
tent camp there are four stations in that camp

00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:53.039
and then on the other side of the island we have

00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:58.880
the cw camp with four more stations i am staring

00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:03.859
at the satellite antennas and uh and uh we have

00:34:03.859 --> 00:34:08.260
a six meter eme antenna that we've installed

00:34:08.260 --> 00:34:12.000
yesterday in a rainstorm and we're working with

00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.239
that over the next couple of days But it's been

00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.300
wonderful. The weather, other than the rain,

00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:23.420
is pleasant. It's 65 to 75 degrees and sometimes

00:34:23.420 --> 00:34:26.480
humid, sometimes not humid, but the sun is always

00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:31.360
very hot. The consistency of the island is a

00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:34.619
lot different than the previous islands we've

00:34:34.619 --> 00:34:37.559
landed and done the expeditions from being Melish

00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:41.619
Reef and Chesterfield Island. Those islands were

00:34:41.619 --> 00:34:46.639
comprised of crushed coral, and some low vegetation.

00:34:47.500 --> 00:34:49.880
This island surprised me a little bit because

00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.500
it is about three meters above sea level and

00:34:53.500 --> 00:34:56.940
heavily vegetation, heavy vegetation, trees and

00:34:56.940 --> 00:35:00.599
shrubs, I would say consistent of what you would

00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.420
find in a jungle. So it's pretty interesting.

00:35:05.619 --> 00:35:07.860
There was a de -expedition here 10 years ago

00:35:07.860 --> 00:35:11.260
this month. And we found their old camp, and

00:35:11.260 --> 00:35:14.239
we're set up in one of their old camps. So that

00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.920
saved us a lot of work. Oh, nice. The boat crew

00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.380
is supporting us. Yeah, it's really cool. The

00:35:20.380 --> 00:35:22.280
boat crew is supporting us. We have a couple

00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:26.679
of crew members here, 7 by 24, to keep the generators

00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:30.300
running and to keep the team fed. We have 14

00:35:30.300 --> 00:35:35.179
men from, I think, five different countries.

00:35:37.510 --> 00:35:42.969
We're operating 7 by 24 All right Yeah, how are

00:35:42.969 --> 00:35:45.309
things going on the air? What what what are your?

00:35:46.090 --> 00:35:48.630
What are your best bands and modes so far and

00:35:48.630 --> 00:35:53.650
that kind of thing? To wear on all bands almost

00:35:53.650 --> 00:35:57.449
the pileups have been fantastic propagation and

00:35:57.449 --> 00:36:02.789
wonderful 1720 I would tell you are the most

00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:05.909
active that I can tell you about 40 meters of

00:36:05.909 --> 00:36:09.590
course at night We've made quite a few contacts

00:36:09.590 --> 00:36:14.590
on 160 already and 80. So, you know, those are

00:36:14.590 --> 00:36:17.969
the traditional DX edition bands. The pileups

00:36:17.969 --> 00:36:20.909
have been relatively, how shall we say, well

00:36:20.909 --> 00:36:24.329
behaved. Sometimes they get a little out of hand.

00:36:25.090 --> 00:36:28.090
But nonetheless, we're pretty happy with the

00:36:28.090 --> 00:36:31.960
way it's been going, the way the DX is. who are

00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.539
calling us are following the traditional protocols

00:36:35.539 --> 00:36:40.420
for DXPILOT. Probably the one question or one

00:36:40.420 --> 00:36:43.360
request that we have is we ask the people to

00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.119
stop, not to dupe us, there's a lot of people

00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:49.579
we know need this for an all -time new one and

00:36:49.579 --> 00:36:51.400
they want to make sure they're in the log so

00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:54.800
they call us twice and that's kind of wasting

00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.519
our time and taking a contact away from somebody

00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:01.050
else. Yeah, I was listening yesterday actually

00:37:01.050 --> 00:37:03.670
worked you guys yesterday and heard a lot of

00:37:03.670 --> 00:37:05.969
times that you know They'll say oh, you know,

00:37:05.969 --> 00:37:07.949
we've already got you in the log. Here's the

00:37:07.949 --> 00:37:10.190
date. Here's the time We've already got you and

00:37:10.190 --> 00:37:13.130
so please don't you know, don't do that again.

00:37:13.570 --> 00:37:20.489
So I know that's that's been Go ahead no, go

00:37:20.489 --> 00:37:24.469
ahead No, I said I've been doing this for a long

00:37:24.469 --> 00:37:27.750
time I can understand somebody's enthusiasm for

00:37:27.750 --> 00:37:29.590
something like this and they want to make sure

00:37:29.590 --> 00:37:33.030
they're they're in the long This island probably

00:37:33.030 --> 00:37:36.489
will not be activated for another 10 years So

00:37:36.489 --> 00:37:40.869
it's it's it's in demand and and we'll try to

00:37:40.869 --> 00:37:44.289
We'll try to become very bored by our last operating

00:37:44.289 --> 00:37:47.269
day, which is about seven days from now If we're

00:37:47.269 --> 00:37:49.110
bored, that means the pileups is pretty much

00:37:49.110 --> 00:37:56.139
subsided Now Jeff wheel guess kb9 BVL Posted

00:37:56.139 --> 00:37:58.480
earlier on Facebook said we're going to come

00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.800
up with a VP 6d drinking game that that every

00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.920
time you hear somebody call on your calling frequency

00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:11.300
You take a drink. So we got to remind people

00:38:11.300 --> 00:38:16.679
that you're running split Well, fortunately,

00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:19.219
I can't hear them calling on my frequency, so

00:38:19.219 --> 00:38:26.219
I guess I go without drinking. All right. Well,

00:38:26.219 --> 00:38:31.039
Jeff, there you go. So what advice do you have

00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.500
for people who are trying to get you? I just

00:38:35.500 --> 00:38:38.659
played a clip actually yesterday of both Glenn's

00:38:38.659 --> 00:38:42.360
contact on 15 and mine. And I mean, it was clear

00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:46.610
as a bell. But what advice would you give to

00:38:46.610 --> 00:38:51.329
people trying to get you in the log? Well, you

00:38:51.329 --> 00:38:53.829
know, I think it's the same with any of the expedition.

00:38:54.030 --> 00:38:56.489
You have to listen, just have to listen a lot

00:38:56.489 --> 00:39:01.309
and listen a lot more than you talk and try to

00:39:01.309 --> 00:39:03.730
understand what the operator is doing, trying

00:39:03.730 --> 00:39:08.519
to follow the operator's technique. Some in a

00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:11.400
split will move up slowly and work people along

00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:14.619
the way and then work down the split slowly and

00:39:14.619 --> 00:39:17.460
work people along the way. You just have to learn

00:39:17.460 --> 00:39:20.599
what the operator is doing. Position yourself

00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:24.320
where you think there's an open spot and the

00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.559
operator will find you. I've done that a lot

00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:29.760
myself. It's a lot easier than sitting there

00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.719
calling and calling and calling. So you just

00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.170
look for what the operator is doing. And of course,

00:39:35.269 --> 00:39:38.010
you have to do it when you can hear us. You'd

00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:40.409
be surprised at the number of people that will

00:39:40.409 --> 00:39:42.789
continually call even though they don't hear

00:39:42.789 --> 00:39:46.989
the DX very well. So you've got to play propagation.

00:39:47.429 --> 00:39:50.989
You listen for the loudest signals for your location,

00:39:51.989 --> 00:39:54.809
for your time of the day, and that's when you

00:39:54.809 --> 00:39:57.190
should be in here calling us, not when you can

00:39:57.190 --> 00:39:59.670
barely hear us because we can barely hear you.

00:40:00.619 --> 00:40:02.719
Well, I know you've just got a couple of minutes

00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:05.280
left here on the sat phone but we did want to

00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.400
take a call and we do have a Call on the line

00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:13.099
here. So I believe this is Scott. Yes Yes, it

00:40:13.099 --> 00:40:16.119
is. It's killer zero Mike Delta and I know gene

00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:19.960
because he was my first Contact this the expedition

00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.760
on DC gene. I'm I appreciate you hearing my call

00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:28.780
Yeah, I've got how are you I remember a thing

00:40:28.780 --> 00:40:32.230
in the log Yeah, I know I'm well you guys are

00:40:32.230 --> 00:40:35.389
doing a wonderful job I wanted to just say I'm

00:40:35.389 --> 00:40:37.989
really impressed having worked you and listened

00:40:37.989 --> 00:40:42.250
to your pileups on 12 meters through 160 what

00:40:42.250 --> 00:40:45.389
a great job your operators are doing I've not

00:40:45.389 --> 00:40:47.849
encountered the expedition where everyone is

00:40:47.849 --> 00:40:51.289
just so good so calm so logical so patient with

00:40:51.289 --> 00:40:54.590
all of the callers It's best I can tell you guys

00:40:54.590 --> 00:40:57.030
are Well on your way to becoming the Expedition

00:40:57.030 --> 00:40:59.610
of the Year with your team. And Glenn, thanks

00:40:59.610 --> 00:41:01.969
for all your support with Gene and the team.

00:41:02.190 --> 00:41:05.329
You guys are just really incredible. Mike, congratulations.

00:41:06.170 --> 00:41:10.610
Thank you, Scott. And Scott, thanks for your

00:41:10.610 --> 00:41:14.210
comments. We saw your comments on the pilot reports

00:41:14.210 --> 00:41:16.050
that we received this morning. So thanks for

00:41:16.050 --> 00:41:19.210
your comments. You're very welcome. Thanks for

00:41:19.210 --> 00:41:21.130
being there and doing it. And safe travels home

00:41:21.130 --> 00:41:23.739
in a couple of weeks. I still see a lot of Twitter

00:41:23.739 --> 00:41:26.199
reporting today about people still excited to

00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:27.820
work you. So I think the pileups are going to

00:41:27.820 --> 00:41:30.219
stay deep and hungry for a while. Are you guys

00:41:30.219 --> 00:41:32.039
going to be on the contest this weekend at all

00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:37.420
by chance? Yes, we are. We will be in the CQ

00:41:37.420 --> 00:41:40.599
Worldwide SSD Contest. I can't tell you where

00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:42.639
right now, but we just made that decision about

00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.860
an hour ago. Well, that would be really exciting.

00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:47.659
And Glenn, I hope you can put that on Twitter.

00:41:47.739 --> 00:41:49.500
That's going to really excite the contest to

00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:52.460
have this zone available for the first time in

00:41:52.460 --> 00:41:56.199
a long time 73 thanks again congratulations neil

00:41:56.199 --> 00:42:00.000
as well on a great show tonight thanks scott

00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.340
all right gene i i don't want to keep you much

00:42:02.340 --> 00:42:05.480
longer here so any uh we'll talk to glenn a little

00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.280
bit about some of the qsl information that kind

00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:11.900
of thing but any uh any last uh comments here

00:42:11.900 --> 00:42:15.900
before you take off uh And for everybody that's

00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:18.780
listening, and that's great news about deciding

00:42:18.780 --> 00:42:25.199
to operate CQ worldwide. No, I think all I ask

00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.960
people to do is be patient and just persevere,

00:42:29.980 --> 00:42:34.059
because that's the key in getting into a de -expedition

00:42:34.059 --> 00:42:38.019
like this that's in heavy demand. But by next

00:42:38.019 --> 00:42:40.480
week, we'll be operating for seven more days,

00:42:40.579 --> 00:42:43.320
at least seven more days. unless there's some

00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.599
dramatic change in the weather or some other

00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:49.360
emergency. We'll be operating for seven more

00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.059
full days and that should give everybody an opportunity

00:42:53.059 --> 00:42:57.199
to get in the log, especially with FTA. FTA has

00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.920
been just amazing. On the other bands die, we

00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.139
go to FTA and there they are, there's people

00:43:04.139 --> 00:43:07.860
calling us. It's just a wonderful mode. We've

00:43:07.860 --> 00:43:09.719
got one more call here real quick mark Brown

00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.980
in for BCD chimed in earlier and we've been so

00:43:12.980 --> 00:43:15.059
busy We hadn't had a chance to to get him and

00:43:15.059 --> 00:43:16.639
I know he's been trying to get through here.

00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:21.340
So mark go ahead Great if gene is still on the

00:43:21.340 --> 00:43:24.679
on the sat phone It is just a truly a pleasure

00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:28.900
to to say hello and to say that you guys have

00:43:28.900 --> 00:43:31.719
been doing it Absolutely over -the -top fantastic

00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:36.000
job down there at Ducey Island I got a lot of

00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:37.760
contacts in the log, I know a lot of other folks

00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:41.500
do, and I just wish you guys safe travels, and

00:43:41.500 --> 00:43:46.800
again, great job. Okay, thanks a lot, I appreciate

00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.179
the comments, and you know, we also have to recognize

00:43:49.179 --> 00:43:52.420
the crew of the Braveheart. These guys are absolutely

00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:54.639
amazing, what they've done. When you see the

00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.400
pictures, you won't believe it, what they put

00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:02.360
together for us. It's just wonderful. I'm excited

00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:05.019
to work you guys or see how things work in CQ

00:44:05.019 --> 00:44:09.519
World Wide Phone this weekend. And I'm appreciating

00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:14.280
to Tom, KE4KY. for putting out there the DXA

00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.679
cluster and letting us know that there's another

00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:20.059
place to find our contacts in the log. And sure

00:44:20.059 --> 00:44:22.099
enough, I've been listening to the program tonight.

00:44:22.659 --> 00:44:24.840
I contacted you guys on 10 meter phone today.

00:44:25.019 --> 00:44:29.280
And honestly, you guys were 10 to 20 over 9 here

00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:33.019
in middle Tennessee on 10 meters at 4 o 'clock

00:44:33.019 --> 00:44:36.829
local time. It was just amazing. That contact

00:44:36.829 --> 00:44:40.429
is in the log there on DXA. So yeah, I understand

00:44:40.429 --> 00:44:43.849
your concerns about folks trying to work here

00:44:43.849 --> 00:44:46.809
multiple times. We just got to be patient and

00:44:46.809 --> 00:44:49.670
it's nice to know there's another source of information

00:44:49.670 --> 00:44:52.130
out there that we can get our contacts confirmed

00:44:52.130 --> 00:44:57.380
over OQRS too. OK, we're going to let Gene get

00:44:57.380 --> 00:44:59.460
off the phone here, but Gene, thanks so much

00:44:59.460 --> 00:45:02.039
for being here and best of luck with the rest

00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:05.019
of the DXpedition and CQ Worldwide this weekend

00:45:05.019 --> 00:45:09.860
and thanks so much for calling in. OK, Neil,

00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:11.860
thanks a lot. I appreciate the opportunity to

00:45:11.860 --> 00:45:15.480
speak to the DX community. I did lose you and

00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:17.860
I came back on the phone. I lost the satellite,

00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.420
but I just called back and thanks a lot for the

00:45:21.420 --> 00:45:23.760
opportunity. We'll see you guys when we get home.

00:45:24.619 --> 00:45:27.679
All right. Thanks and safe travels home. That's

00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:32.760
Gene smell Spinelli K5 GS live on Ducey Island.

00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:38.619
Thanks so much gene and seven three Yeah, and

00:45:38.619 --> 00:45:41.719
mark three, bye bye and mark thanks for calling

00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:45.239
in we appreciate it Yeah, Neil. This has been

00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.920
a one of those over -the -top great the expeditions

00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.420
I've I've got a matrix here in front of me that

00:45:50.420 --> 00:45:52.760
a whole bunch of boxes checked off still more

00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.530
to go but These guys have been doing an absolutely

00:45:55.530 --> 00:45:57.570
fantastic job and thanks for the opportunity

00:45:57.570 --> 00:46:00.449
to call in. And Tom, again, thank you for the,

00:46:00.610 --> 00:46:03.510
uh, for mentioning that D X a as a web source

00:46:03.510 --> 00:46:07.889
for confirming our contacts. Okay. Thank you.

00:46:08.389 --> 00:46:12.599
All right. Nope. See you, Mark. Take care. 812

00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.019
-638 -4261 is the number. We'll go a little over

00:46:16.019 --> 00:46:18.539
time here tonight because we do have a few things

00:46:18.539 --> 00:46:20.440
we want to get in. But if you want to give us

00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:26.300
a call, you can. It's 812 -638 -4261. Glenn,

00:46:26.300 --> 00:46:30.219
before we get too far here, we were talking about

00:46:30.219 --> 00:46:33.440
configuring the FT8 and I think we got that pretty

00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.880
well taken care of. But let's talk about the

00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.500
QSL information real quick here before things

00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:45.980
get away from us. Yeah, VP6D .com if you go there,

00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:51.400
there's a log search feature. All of the contacts

00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.800
that are there for the maritime mobile contacts

00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.739
that were made are there. It's very easy to navigate

00:46:57.739 --> 00:47:01.019
and once you're there it shows you how you can

00:47:01.019 --> 00:47:04.500
and tells you how you can get your QSL card.

00:47:05.260 --> 00:47:10.030
Gene and company created some software that they've

00:47:10.030 --> 00:47:15.250
shared with M0URX and some other people, I believe,

00:47:15.389 --> 00:47:19.030
as far as QSLing. And so it enhances the QSL

00:47:19.030 --> 00:47:21.349
process for these guys that handle thousands

00:47:21.349 --> 00:47:26.389
and thousands a month. And so the online QSL

00:47:26.389 --> 00:47:29.969
process is very easily explained on our website,

00:47:30.309 --> 00:47:32.590
and it should not be very hard to get the card

00:47:32.590 --> 00:47:36.050
at all. If you got your card from TX3X, it's

00:47:36.050 --> 00:47:38.429
going to be the same procedure. So very easy

00:47:38.429 --> 00:47:45.349
to get the QSL, and the LOTW, for most people,

00:47:45.710 --> 00:47:48.710
will probably be about five or six months after

00:47:48.710 --> 00:47:51.590
the DEXpedition is over with, and you can read

00:47:51.590 --> 00:47:55.250
the QSL policy there that the team has developed

00:47:55.250 --> 00:48:00.099
on the webpage. as well. All right, very good.

00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:06.039
And Jim, KF4WLS wants to know, is there a set

00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.619
schedule for listening in the general class band

00:48:09.619 --> 00:48:14.199
on 20? Not to speak out of school as far as a

00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.820
strategy or anything like that, but obviously

00:48:16.820 --> 00:48:23.170
the pileups for these wanted Entities can be

00:48:23.170 --> 00:48:26.469
very the competition is very stiff. And so I

00:48:26.469 --> 00:48:28.610
think what the what they're doing is is they're

00:48:28.610 --> 00:48:31.550
working down the piles They're they're barely

00:48:31.550 --> 00:48:34.849
at their halfway point if if they say that they

00:48:34.849 --> 00:48:38.469
got another seven days They're reaching their

00:48:38.469 --> 00:48:41.269
halfway point on this de -expedition. You are

00:48:41.269 --> 00:48:43.590
probably going to start seeing shifts on the

00:48:43.590 --> 00:48:46.469
things that they do just a little bit more. I've

00:48:46.469 --> 00:48:50.130
been receiving emails from the RTTY guys. When

00:48:50.130 --> 00:48:53.170
are you going to do RTTY? Because so far on the

00:48:53.170 --> 00:48:54.769
stats that I have in front of me, and I can talk

00:48:54.769 --> 00:48:57.090
about that in a minute, there's not very many

00:48:57.090 --> 00:49:02.030
RTTY contacts in the log versus FTA. So hang

00:49:02.030 --> 00:49:04.050
in there. Hang tough for the people that don't

00:49:04.050 --> 00:49:07.119
have extra class privileges. They started today,

00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:09.360
it's already been posted on social media and

00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:12.739
some other places, some forums. I believe 14

00:49:12.739 --> 00:49:16.300
-281, they were listening all the way up there

00:49:16.300 --> 00:49:18.880
from time to time to try to get some folks in

00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.519
the log. And I think that you will see as the

00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:25.500
de -expedition progresses and the pile -ups actually

00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:29.079
start to decrease in intensity, broadening that

00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.219
out a little bit. Because if you went straight

00:49:31.219 --> 00:49:34.539
up into the general band, the pileups are still

00:49:34.539 --> 00:49:37.599
going to be the same. And so, uh, it, it, I think

00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.119
it's just a strategy to kind of lessen the pileups

00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.840
a little bit and then move and just adjust and

00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.000
vary what you're doing to try to get the whole,

00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:51.179
uh, the whole spectrum. Yeah. I know yesterday,

00:49:51.179 --> 00:49:54.079
uh, my contact on 20 was, they were on, uh, I

00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:58.480
think 14, 185 and then it was 14, 281 that they

00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.719
were listening on. So they were already in the,

00:50:01.019 --> 00:50:03.699
And the general part of the band. So that's,

00:50:03.699 --> 00:50:06.179
uh, that's good news for those people who were

00:50:06.179 --> 00:50:08.340
doing that. Uh, you know, just because they're

00:50:08.340 --> 00:50:09.719
transmitting down there, it doesn't mean you

00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.280
can't work them. It's just, uh, um, a very big

00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.099
split. So, uh, let's see, we're trying to catch

00:50:17.099 --> 00:50:19.679
up here with all the tweets. This is a bit of

00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.880
a popular one. Uh, Troy Simpson, W nine KVR says,

00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.960
uh, we got them today on 20 on FT eight first

00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:31.579
call. 17 on sideband. Very strong signal. Better

00:50:31.579 --> 00:50:33.699
than anything we had during school club roundup

00:50:33.699 --> 00:50:35.980
this week. And boy I agree with that Troy. Those

00:50:35.980 --> 00:50:40.000
school club roundup conditions were awful. And

00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:43.139
he said Fox and Hound worked really well. So

00:50:43.139 --> 00:50:48.340
thank you Troy for that. And we got Dr. Scott

00:50:48.340 --> 00:50:53.579
Wright in here. We got Mark in here. We got Jeff,

00:50:54.179 --> 00:50:59.460
and so I think we're caught up. So let's see,

00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:03.500
anything else on the list here? I think we got

00:51:03.500 --> 00:51:07.559
it. So Glenn, anything else that we need to talk

00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.559
about here before we go? Well two things I want

00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.860
to cover when I got the the stats for where the

00:51:13.860 --> 00:51:16.960
d expedition is standing at this point in time

00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:22.940
and 1806 Zulu was the last log upload today 1806

00:51:22.940 --> 00:51:30.699
Zulu 51 ,827 total queues on that last log upload

00:51:30.699 --> 00:51:34.280
is in the log. Now, DXA may show much more than

00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:40.519
that by now, but 51 ,827. 50 % of those are USA.

00:51:40.900 --> 00:51:46.679
Well, that's a given because the USA, it's right

00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.619
in our back door. European contacts are 25%.

00:51:52.110 --> 00:51:55.110
Asia is 13 % and then the rest of the geographical

00:51:55.110 --> 00:51:58.590
areas really start declining there a little bit.

00:51:59.530 --> 00:52:10.369
CWQs, 28 ,743. Sideband QSOs, 13 ,520. FT8, 8

00:52:10.369 --> 00:52:14.329
,910. That could be 16, according to my writing.

00:52:14.469 --> 00:52:21.150
So it's 8910, we'll just say. RTTY 646. So we're

00:52:21.150 --> 00:52:25.389
really hitting the bands hard. It has just been

00:52:25.389 --> 00:52:30.110
phenomenal with what I have seen. Other de -expeditions

00:52:30.110 --> 00:52:33.750
have done very well. But I tell you what, this

00:52:33.750 --> 00:52:37.429
one has just, it just surprised me how quick,

00:52:37.829 --> 00:52:42.190
once they got on the air fully, Monday into Tuesday,

00:52:42.710 --> 00:52:45.769
how fast the QSOs were just adding up. The other

00:52:45.769 --> 00:52:52.360
thing I want to mention is, We have an additional

00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.659
North American pilot. You can find his information

00:52:55.659 --> 00:53:00.360
on VP6D .com under the team section. That's Mason,

00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.300
KM4SII. He's a 14 -year -old. He may be 15 by

00:53:05.300 --> 00:53:07.239
now, but I got to meet him up in Dayton this

00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:09.139
year. He's assisting me with some of the North

00:53:09.139 --> 00:53:12.860
American pilot duties, and he's an up -and -coming

00:53:12.860 --> 00:53:16.199
ham. Starting to see him in some of the contests.

00:53:17.630 --> 00:53:20.269
One of the, he's involved in one of the Young

00:53:20.269 --> 00:53:25.369
Ham activities for the youth. Up and comer there,

00:53:25.409 --> 00:53:29.610
look for him in the future to possibly be the

00:53:29.610 --> 00:53:32.130
next big D Expeditioner in the next 15 or 20

00:53:32.130 --> 00:53:35.869
years. We also, I also want to thank our pilots

00:53:35.869 --> 00:53:41.489
from all over. Africa, Europe, Japan, Asia. Asia,

00:53:41.730 --> 00:53:45.630
we have a pilot from Asia who covers the Baltic

00:53:45.630 --> 00:53:49.269
states, the Eastern European region, Oceania

00:53:49.269 --> 00:53:51.550
and South America. So all of the regions are

00:53:51.550 --> 00:53:54.030
covered. They're sending information and data

00:53:54.030 --> 00:53:56.730
to me. And you go, well, what does a pilot do?

00:53:57.489 --> 00:54:01.619
Well, I'll give you a good short example. The

00:54:01.619 --> 00:54:06.719
Europeans, and also Pista, H -A -5 -A -O, H -A

00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:11.780
-5 -A -O in Hungary, he is the webmaster of VP6D,

00:54:11.860 --> 00:54:15.940
has been helping me out tremendously. The Europeans

00:54:15.940 --> 00:54:19.340
are basically cataloging what the best times

00:54:19.340 --> 00:54:25.099
are for the bands, particularly on 12, 15 and

00:54:25.099 --> 00:54:28.940
17 meters. And so after several days of seeing

00:54:28.940 --> 00:54:32.989
what the de -expedition is capable of, what the

00:54:32.989 --> 00:54:35.130
propagation is doing, they're narrowing down

00:54:35.130 --> 00:54:37.369
their times of saying, this is when you need

00:54:37.369 --> 00:54:39.889
to hit us. And that's what we're able to do as

00:54:39.889 --> 00:54:43.769
pilots is funnel that information to the team

00:54:43.769 --> 00:54:46.050
so that they can make adjustments in the coming

00:54:46.050 --> 00:54:49.190
hours or the coming days. And so it's not that

00:54:49.190 --> 00:54:51.690
we dictate what they do, but we can offer them

00:54:51.690 --> 00:54:56.720
suggestions from the DX community about. how

00:54:56.720 --> 00:55:00.380
can other regions or specific areas get into

00:55:00.380 --> 00:55:02.619
the log a little bit quicker, a little bit easier.

00:55:03.099 --> 00:55:05.539
And so by forwarding those kind of propagation

00:55:05.539 --> 00:55:09.619
reports firsthand to the team within an eight

00:55:09.619 --> 00:55:14.280
or a 12 hour basis of receiving them, it makes

00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.300
it just. creates efficiency. And so I would encourage

00:55:17.300 --> 00:55:21.519
anybody, not only in the US, but anywhere else,

00:55:21.579 --> 00:55:24.780
to contact your regional pilot and provide them

00:55:24.780 --> 00:55:27.559
what you think are things that could help aid

00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:29.940
your geographical area of getting into this log

00:55:29.940 --> 00:55:34.320
a little bit quicker. All right. All great information,

00:55:34.579 --> 00:55:38.380
Glenn. And thanks so much for making the arrangements

00:55:38.380 --> 00:55:44.360
to get all this going and all your work. spending

00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:47.320
some time with us tonight on ham talk live and

00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:50.880
it's just amazing it's gone really well I've

00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:55.059
heard nothing but but great comments on how well

00:55:55.059 --> 00:55:58.260
the operators are doing and and how well things

00:55:58.260 --> 00:56:03.119
have progressed and of course conditions don't

00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:07.139
always cooperate but you know you just keep fighting

00:56:07.139 --> 00:56:10.260
through it and and I think I think everybody's

00:56:10.260 --> 00:56:14.760
gonna be able to get a shot at this patience

00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:19.780
and persistence that's the game yeah sure is

00:56:19.780 --> 00:56:23.900
all right well I think we're gonna wrap things

00:56:23.900 --> 00:56:27.199
up here tonight but thanks for coming on and

00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:31.619
I appreciate all you've done and some good stats

00:56:31.619 --> 00:56:37.000
there too. And again, visit vp6d .com and you

00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:40.739
can see a lot of those statistics and where they

00:56:40.739 --> 00:56:44.679
are. So great resource, great website as well.

00:56:46.799 --> 00:56:49.820
Thank you very much. This has really been fun.

00:56:50.219 --> 00:56:53.000
I appreciate it. I've done some things over the

00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:56.159
internet on doing presentations on some of the

00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:58.599
de -expeditions I've been on, but this was really

00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:00.400
fun, and I'm glad you invited me to come on tonight.

00:57:01.619 --> 00:57:04.519
All right. Thank you very much. We appreciate

00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:09.820
you being here. That's Glenn Petrie, KE4KY, and

00:57:09.820 --> 00:57:12.900
Gene Spinelli, K5GS. Thanks to both of them for

00:57:12.900 --> 00:57:15.400
being on the show tonight, and everybody out

00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:19.260
there in cyberspace for calling in and tweeting

00:57:19.260 --> 00:57:22.159
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00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:26.159
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00:57:42.230 --> 00:57:47.050
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00:57:47.050 --> 00:57:49.869
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00:57:49.869 --> 00:57:54.309
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00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:14.960
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