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And also 00:05:12.410 --> 00:05:17.269 they'll be in Dalton, Georgia on February 23rd. 00:05:17.269 --> 00:05:23.629 And you can visit them anytime at PL -259 .com. 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:28.199 Frank Bauer, KA -3 HDO, has been licensed since 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:33.040 1974 and in 1983 in preparation for the first 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:36.939 ever ham radio operation from space. He was responsible 00:05:36.939 --> 00:05:40.920 for setting up and operating the worldwide retransmission 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.620 of space shuttle -aired ground communications 00:05:43.620 --> 00:05:46.459 from the Goddard Amateur Radio Club station WA 00:05:46.459 --> 00:05:50.850 -3NAN. This initiative provided a critical conduit 00:05:50.850 --> 00:05:53.430 of information to hams attempting to contact 00:05:53.430 --> 00:05:57.910 astronaut hams in the pre -internet era. Frank 00:05:57.910 --> 00:06:01.370 now serves as the amateur radio on the International 00:06:01.370 --> 00:06:04.889 Space Station International Chairman. Frank holds 00:06:04.889 --> 00:06:08.230 a bachelor's and master's degree in aeronautics 00:06:08.230 --> 00:06:12.589 and astronautics from Purdue University and his 00:06:12.589 --> 00:06:16.069 career in aerospace fans spans four decades within 00:06:16.069 --> 00:06:19.569 NASA and in the private industry. And he's the 00:06:19.569 --> 00:06:25.310 2017 Dayton Hamvention amateur of the year. So 00:06:25.310 --> 00:06:29.970 Frank, welcome back. Well, thank you, Neil. It's 00:06:29.970 --> 00:06:33.509 great to be back. Yeah, it's been a while since 00:06:33.509 --> 00:06:35.769 we've done an update here on some of the heiress 00:06:35.769 --> 00:06:38.970 plans and wanted to talk a little bit about those. 00:06:38.990 --> 00:06:41.990 So thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule 00:06:41.990 --> 00:06:45.649 to come and talk to us a little bit about some 00:06:45.649 --> 00:06:49.329 of this, and there's a lot going on. So first 00:06:49.329 --> 00:06:52.350 off, let's talk about the upgrades to the equipment 00:06:52.350 --> 00:06:56.350 on board the space station. We've got a new radio 00:06:56.350 --> 00:07:00.029 project that's been going on and a power supply 00:07:00.029 --> 00:07:04.709 for it and a new antenna going up. So why don't 00:07:04.709 --> 00:07:09.550 you tell us all about that? Sure, I can. Actually, 00:07:10.689 --> 00:07:14.420 we have We have seven different activities going 00:07:14.420 --> 00:07:18.779 on in the hardware world It's been very interesting 00:07:18.779 --> 00:07:22.480 but the probably the most important one is our 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:25.079 next generation radio system that we're going 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:28.180 to be flying we call it the Interoperable radio 00:07:28.180 --> 00:07:30.540 system because basically what we want to do is 00:07:30.540 --> 00:07:34.060 develop one what we are doing is developing One 00:07:34.060 --> 00:07:36.879 system that can operate throughout space station. 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:40.339 In other words, we'll have a identical setup 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:44.120 in the Columbus module and an identical setup 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.740 in the Russian service module. That includes, 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:51.240 as you said, Neil, this multi -voltage power 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:55.519 supply, which is a really cool device being developed 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:58.259 by Kerry Banke and, of course, Lou McFadden, 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:03.459 our chief engineer, in that it's going to allow 00:08:03.459 --> 00:08:07.490 us to... use multiple voltages on Space Station 00:08:07.490 --> 00:08:11.589 and we have multiple capabilities that will allow 00:08:11.589 --> 00:08:17.389 us to do more in the Columbus module than we 00:08:17.389 --> 00:08:22.370 could before and substantial improvements or 00:08:22.370 --> 00:08:25.790 enhancements for the future. So we can actually 00:08:25.790 --> 00:08:29.129 plug in four different systems at the same time. 00:08:30.500 --> 00:08:33.480 An important piece of that whole thing is, of 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:38.000 course, the radio, which is the JVC Kenwood D 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:44.340 -710GA that we've worked with Kenwood to modify 00:08:44.340 --> 00:08:51.679 for flight. And I think combined, those systems 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:55.279 will provide a really outstanding platform on 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:58.080 both sides of the space station, on the Russian 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:03.740 and the US side. And then as a result, it'll 00:09:03.740 --> 00:09:06.940 be a lot easier for the crew to be able to get 00:09:06.940 --> 00:09:09.899 ready and do a contact. So all in all, I think 00:09:09.899 --> 00:09:14.279 it's gonna be a phenomenal capability. So where 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:16.360 are we on that right now? I know you've had some 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:19.519 fundraising to do for that. Where are we on that 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:23.679 right now? Right now, you know, the interesting 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.519 part about this is we have to build 10 units. 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:29.919 If you think about it, we have to have two flight 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:36.059 units. I talked about one in the service module 00:09:36.059 --> 00:09:38.700 and one in the Columbus module. We need to have 00:09:38.700 --> 00:09:40.500 flight backups for each one of those. That's 00:09:40.500 --> 00:09:43.240 four. Then we have to have training units for 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:47.840 multiple areas in the world, United States, Russia. 00:09:54.269 --> 00:09:57.230 test and verify and things like that. So we're 00:09:57.230 --> 00:10:01.389 building 10 units. The funding, I mean we're 00:10:01.389 --> 00:10:03.730 spending a lot of money right now because the 00:10:03.730 --> 00:10:05.769 parts that go along with this are not cheap. 00:10:06.289 --> 00:10:10.070 We need to take some extensive travel down at 00:10:10.070 --> 00:10:13.850 the NASA Johnson Space Center to do testing there. 00:10:14.350 --> 00:10:16.710 Literally I have a whole bunch of emails today 00:10:16.710 --> 00:10:21.320 on preparing for the testing. We have to go through 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:24.019 testing twice. We have to go through an engineering 00:10:24.019 --> 00:10:26.220 unit, which we call a flight identical unit, 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:31.399 which is built now. And then once we've done 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:33.600 that, we're going to do a subset of testing with 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:36.259 the flight unit. And then the flight unit, both 00:10:36.259 --> 00:10:37.980 flight units, the flight unit, we're going to 00:10:37.980 --> 00:10:40.720 start with the one in the Columbus module, and 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:43.159 then we'll do the one in the Russian service 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:47.519 module. So that's all. You know, we're working 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:50.860 towards Trying to get this thing flown this year 00:10:50.860 --> 00:10:55.620 if possible. So we you know, it's all a function 00:10:55.620 --> 00:10:59.100 of you know, how the testing goes and you know 00:10:59.100 --> 00:11:03.039 getting through the the safety certification 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:08.700 paperwork and all of that approving to NASA and 00:11:08.700 --> 00:11:15.639 to Roscosmos the Russian Space Agency that our 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:20.450 unit has past all the engineering and safety 00:11:20.450 --> 00:11:23.570 testing that verifies that it's ready for flight. 00:11:25.070 --> 00:11:27.889 And if people want to help out with that process 00:11:27.889 --> 00:11:31.929 they can donate at? Yeah, best place to do is 00:11:31.929 --> 00:11:38.509 just go to the ARIS website www .aris .org. There's 00:11:38.509 --> 00:11:43.409 a donate button there and we're doing it a couple 00:11:43.409 --> 00:11:46.799 different ways. We have a fundraiser campaign. 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.519 That's it's part of that and then we also have 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:53.740 a Donate button that'll go right to the M set 00:11:53.740 --> 00:11:56.740 PayPal all of the money that goes into a M set 00:11:56.740 --> 00:11:58.879 for heiress goes directly to heiress hundred 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:04.200 percent. So Basically, that's it's very simple 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.519 just go to that donate button and and you should 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:10.639 be able to do it Okay, and then let's talk about 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:13.799 this new antenna going up in the Columbus module 00:12:14.539 --> 00:12:20.700 Sure. So the Europeans are going to be doing 00:12:20.700 --> 00:12:23.159 something similar to the Japanese have done. 00:12:24.779 --> 00:12:31.139 They're putting a system around the outside of 00:12:31.139 --> 00:12:34.419 the Columbus module so that they can put payloads 00:12:34.419 --> 00:12:40.080 on there. And so to do that, some of the payloads 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:43.440 they want to fly are some RF payloads too. And 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.679 there's a feed -through that we're using right 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:53.320 now that has four, well, everyone that's listening 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.080 here knows all about antenna ports and the importance 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.539 of feed -throughs. There's a feed -through that 00:12:58.539 --> 00:13:02.179 has the ability to put four pieces of coax through 00:13:02.179 --> 00:13:05.519 it, if you will. And we're only using two of 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:10.049 them. We are in AIS antennas using it. They want 00:13:10.049 --> 00:13:12.029 to use all four, and to do that means they've 00:13:12.029 --> 00:13:14.169 got to disconnect the current antenna that we 00:13:14.169 --> 00:13:18.990 have. So we've been working now with ESA and 00:13:18.990 --> 00:13:25.470 NASA to get a new antenna, basically identical 00:13:25.470 --> 00:13:30.090 to what we have, installed sometime late this 00:13:30.090 --> 00:13:33.870 year when this payload system called Bartolomeo 00:13:33.870 --> 00:13:38.509 gets launched. And so that's just another project 00:13:38.509 --> 00:13:41.929 we're working on right now. We've got the antennas 00:13:41.929 --> 00:13:45.809 built and ESA is supposed to be providing a clamp 00:13:45.809 --> 00:13:49.470 that clamps the antenna to the handrail. And 00:13:49.470 --> 00:13:54.429 then the feed line, the feed line because they 00:13:54.429 --> 00:13:59.850 need to have a EVA or extra vehicular activity 00:13:59.850 --> 00:14:04.120 space walk. Connector special connector on there 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:07.799 so that the crew that's in a in a spacesuit they 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:12.720 can actually install this so So ESA is provide 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:17.779 ESA NASA are providing that to us and then Sometime 00:14:17.779 --> 00:14:20.200 late this year. We're going to be launching this 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:27.179 antenna. It should not be a big Very visible 00:14:27.179 --> 00:14:29.820 I'll say to the ham radio community because the 00:14:29.820 --> 00:14:32.759 intent is to disconnect and connect back up in 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:37.899 a couple days. But for us, it's a big deal in 00:14:37.899 --> 00:14:40.000 that we're going through all the safety certification 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:44.320 for it as well as building it up and putting 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:46.259 on, you know, it's interesting because one of 00:14:46.259 --> 00:14:48.779 the more expensive parts of this is a special 00:14:48.779 --> 00:14:52.360 coating we got to put on the antenna. The antenna, 00:14:52.740 --> 00:14:59.240 of course, needs to be safe. Basically, we've 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:01.600 got a measuring tape antenna, and the sharp edges 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:03.899 of the measuring tape, we put this Kapton tape 00:15:03.899 --> 00:15:06.960 on it. But the Kapton tape, if you put it outside 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:10.080 for long periods of time, will deteriorate because 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:13.480 of atomic oxygen interaction. So we have to put 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:16.179 this special coating of silicon dioxide on it. 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:19.519 It's vacuum impregnated. to actually prevent 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.539 that from happening. So we're doing all these 00:15:21.539 --> 00:15:23.700 things and these things are all expensive if 00:15:23.700 --> 00:15:28.100 you will. So that's why we need those donations 00:15:28.100 --> 00:15:31.399 I was talking about earlier. Now anytime you 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:34.179 have to go through, I've been through inspection 00:15:34.179 --> 00:15:36.899 and anytime you have to go through NASA inspection, 00:15:37.860 --> 00:15:39.860 it's going to take a while and it's not going 00:15:39.860 --> 00:15:46.009 to be cheap. That's part of it. Okay. We've got 00:15:46.009 --> 00:15:51.169 a lot of different modes going on. Let's talk 00:15:51.169 --> 00:15:55.190 a little bit about the ham TV transmitter that's 00:15:55.190 --> 00:16:00.809 actually being worked on. Yeah. So that's another, 00:16:00.850 --> 00:16:03.409 that's another, I mentioned there's seven things. 00:16:04.029 --> 00:16:06.669 Actually two of them are ham TV. One of them 00:16:06.669 --> 00:16:12.710 is we just, uh, Brought back the ham TV unit 00:16:12.710 --> 00:16:18.529 it it stopped. We don't know why and so on the 00:16:18.529 --> 00:16:24.929 last SpaceX Dragon flight we were We basically 00:16:24.929 --> 00:16:28.490 it's splashed down on the 13th of January and 00:16:28.490 --> 00:16:34.470 so That is coming back and will be tested to 00:16:34.470 --> 00:16:36.980 understand what the problems are At the same 00:16:36.980 --> 00:16:41.039 time, we are looking at a HAM -TV2 system. So 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.659 if we can turn this around fast, that's fantastic. 00:16:45.340 --> 00:16:47.340 But the other thing we are looking at is towards 00:16:47.340 --> 00:16:53.279 the future. And can we use a higher resolution 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:57.340 HAM -TV capability? Can we use it to actually 00:16:57.340 --> 00:17:01.299 transmit down high speed data that we might want 00:17:01.299 --> 00:17:04.220 to transmit down with some student experiments? 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:07.599 So there's a number of things we're looking at 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.779 relative to both the current ham TV system and 00:17:11.779 --> 00:17:14.880 Then also ham TV to so ham TV, you know current 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:19.140 system is back down It will be several weeks 00:17:19.140 --> 00:17:22.940 before we get our hands, you know, they've got 00:17:22.940 --> 00:17:27.460 a lot of Unpacking to do and transport back to 00:17:27.460 --> 00:17:29.480 us. We should be seeing it in another couple 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:33.470 weeks from now and then We'll start the debugging 00:17:33.470 --> 00:17:35.750 and try to understand whether we can quickly 00:17:35.750 --> 00:17:40.490 turn it around. And then the packet system. You've 00:17:40.490 --> 00:17:45.349 got some equipment up there and actually we got 00:17:45.349 --> 00:17:51.509 a question in from Luciana Gasparini, PT9KK in 00:17:51.509 --> 00:17:54.670 Brazil and said there's some new equipment stowed 00:17:54.670 --> 00:17:59.650 on the ISS for APRS. Any chance? But that will 00:17:59.650 --> 00:18:01.970 happen in the next eight weeks. He's working 00:18:01.970 --> 00:18:07.130 on a dedicated iGate in Western Brazil just for 00:18:07.130 --> 00:18:10.490 this. So what's going on with the packet system 00:18:10.490 --> 00:18:13.329 and APRs? Well, I thank him. First off, I want 00:18:13.329 --> 00:18:16.130 to thank him for doing that because we can use 00:18:16.130 --> 00:18:22.009 all the capabilities as possible. Dedicated iGate 00:18:22.009 --> 00:18:27.289 is a great thing to have. So it's interesting. 00:18:29.049 --> 00:18:32.950 the beginning of the year, we were able to, we 00:18:32.950 --> 00:18:39.230 call it UpMass, basically launch one of our packet 00:18:39.230 --> 00:18:41.950 modules, one of our spare packet modules that 00:18:41.950 --> 00:18:46.730 we had because the packet module stopped working. 00:18:47.049 --> 00:18:52.549 It was intermittent for a while. And unfortunately, 00:18:52.569 --> 00:18:55.390 we had a little bit of a hiccup because you know 00:18:55.390 --> 00:19:00.960 what it's like when you lose your keys? Sometimes 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:02.859 it takes a little bit to find them, and then 00:19:02.859 --> 00:19:09.240 all of a sudden you find them. When you're in 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:11.920 a microgravity environment, if you put something 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:16.059 in one place, it doesn't always stay there. Unfortunately, 00:19:16.220 --> 00:19:18.779 that's what happened to our packet module. It 00:19:18.779 --> 00:19:27.130 went missing for a little bit. I found out about 00:19:27.130 --> 00:19:32.230 a week, within the past week that it was rediscovered, 00:19:32.230 --> 00:19:37.750 I'll call it that, and we're being put on a list 00:19:37.750 --> 00:19:40.769 to get the packet module installed. So I don't 00:19:40.769 --> 00:19:43.390 know, I can't tell you for sure when that's gonna 00:19:43.390 --> 00:19:47.029 happen, but I will say that if everything goes 00:19:47.029 --> 00:19:51.390 well and the packet module works as expected, 00:19:52.349 --> 00:19:54.190 I would say we should have it back up in the 00:19:54.190 --> 00:19:59.900 eight weeks. that was described. Okay, very good. 00:20:00.900 --> 00:20:04.660 And then you've got Lime SDR experiment that's 00:20:04.660 --> 00:20:06.920 finishing up. So tell us a little bit about it. 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:11.920 Yes, that's a interesting experiment. It's called 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:18.000 Marconista. And it's, you know, like Marconi 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:22.750 ISSTA, if you will. And actually that... That 00:20:22.750 --> 00:20:26.369 word, Marconista, means radio amateur in Italian. 00:20:28.490 --> 00:20:32.369 So Marconista was an experiment that was proposed 00:20:32.369 --> 00:20:37.569 by Martin Buscher, who's a student at the Technical 00:20:37.569 --> 00:20:44.190 University of Berlin. And basically, like you 00:20:44.190 --> 00:20:47.069 said, it's a LIME -SDR. It's a radio spectrum 00:20:47.069 --> 00:20:51.069 experiment. Looking at the hand bands and they've 00:20:51.069 --> 00:20:54.069 done some very interesting So basically what 00:20:54.069 --> 00:20:56.390 they're looking at is 2 meters 70 centimeters 00:20:56.390 --> 00:20:59.150 L band and s band they the antennas we have on 00:20:59.150 --> 00:21:03.390 space station right now and so They've already 00:21:03.390 --> 00:21:07.089 gotten some data and and and Martin is using 00:21:07.089 --> 00:21:10.450 this actually He's getting his degree, you know 00:21:10.450 --> 00:21:14.819 as part of this investigation they Have gotten 00:21:14.819 --> 00:21:18.000 a lot of data now. I've seen a bit of it. It's 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:23.059 very intriguing I will let Martin, you know publish 00:21:23.059 --> 00:21:25.880 out what he's planning on publishing out the 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:30.640 the data will be made available to Eris and Anyone 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:32.619 that wants to look at it. We're looking at trying 00:21:32.619 --> 00:21:37.460 to get it on a on a website that is Public so 00:21:37.460 --> 00:21:39.940 people could download this information once we 00:21:39.940 --> 00:21:43.420 were able to to make sure we've got all of the 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:47.339 metadata there so that people aren't having to 00:21:47.339 --> 00:21:50.460 ask 10 million questions about what all this 00:21:50.460 --> 00:21:57.640 represents. The intent is that once this experiment 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:00.059 is over, which should be the end of February, 00:22:01.619 --> 00:22:04.279 they'll be stowed away for a little bit, primarily 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:09.359 because the AstroPy, the RaspberryPy we're using, 00:22:09.420 --> 00:22:12.039 needs to be used for another student experiment. 00:22:12.269 --> 00:22:17.029 ESA student experiment, but our intent is to 00:22:17.029 --> 00:22:21.670 utilize this again in the future and You know 00:22:21.670 --> 00:22:26.329 to get some proposals of potential experiments, 00:22:26.569 --> 00:22:29.450 so it's it's a pretty interesting capability 00:22:29.450 --> 00:22:34.230 and we're pretty excited about it and And and 00:22:34.230 --> 00:22:36.329 Martin Buescher is going to continue to work 00:22:36.329 --> 00:22:38.750 with us on this thing, so it's a very interesting 00:22:38.750 --> 00:22:42.740 Partnership, it's a great research project And 00:22:42.740 --> 00:22:46.259 it could be a great resource for the ham community. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.619 All right, we're going to switch gears from hardware 00:22:50.619 --> 00:22:58.279 over to all the red tape. And in November, we 00:22:58.279 --> 00:23:01.579 had a possibility that the space station wouldn't 00:23:01.579 --> 00:23:04.700 have a crew because the rocket launch in Russia 00:23:04.700 --> 00:23:07.700 failed and the expiration date on the return 00:23:07.700 --> 00:23:12.180 vehicle was looming and we weren't sure what 00:23:12.180 --> 00:23:14.259 was going to happen with heiress during that 00:23:14.259 --> 00:23:17.799 time and Thankfully, they got a new crew up there 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:21.559 in time But I'm sure it brought up a lot of discussion 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:24.380 and planning for what would happen if and when 00:23:24.380 --> 00:23:28.339 This happened and it may happen again So can 00:23:28.339 --> 00:23:31.259 you tell us a little bit about maybe what to 00:23:31.259 --> 00:23:35.299 expect if that ever would happen? Well, let me 00:23:35.299 --> 00:23:40.690 let me let me start with you know When I say 00:23:40.690 --> 00:23:42.950 we, the international community is going through 00:23:42.950 --> 00:23:47.089 a transition right now, and a hunk of that transition 00:23:47.089 --> 00:23:50.170 is happening in the United States. That has to 00:23:50.170 --> 00:23:54.029 do with the fact that everybody knows that NASA 00:23:54.029 --> 00:23:58.809 retired the space shuttle in 2011, and we're 00:23:58.809 --> 00:24:07.410 on the cusp of being able to fly astronauts through 00:24:07.410 --> 00:24:10.299 a commercial. The through commercial vehicles, 00:24:10.299 --> 00:24:14.299 you know, the two main ones are are the SpaceX 00:24:14.299 --> 00:24:22.740 Dragon vehicle and the the Boeing Crew capsule 00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:30.700 also and so those are being ready to fly Hopefully 00:24:30.700 --> 00:24:36.210 this year and that's a little bit of the I'll 00:24:36.210 --> 00:24:37.990 say the rub, if you will, that's going on right 00:24:37.990 --> 00:24:42.670 now is that because any new project always runs 00:24:42.670 --> 00:24:46.950 into delays, I don't care if it's a space flight 00:24:46.950 --> 00:24:50.349 project and it doesn't matter whose it is, industry, 00:24:50.450 --> 00:24:52.690 NASA or whatever, they always run into delays. 00:24:52.930 --> 00:24:56.569 It's not clear when exactly those flights will 00:24:56.569 --> 00:25:05.309 happen. There are going to be situations where 00:25:05.609 --> 00:25:09.670 Vehicle doesn't go as planned and and thank goodness 00:25:09.670 --> 00:25:13.210 You know the two astronauts said that the cosmonaut 00:25:13.210 --> 00:25:16.309 and astronaut that was on board Nick Hague on 00:25:16.309 --> 00:25:21.309 the on the astronaut side Everything went It 00:25:21.309 --> 00:25:24.549 didn't go as planned, but the abort system went 00:25:24.549 --> 00:25:27.769 exactly as planned and the the individuals were 00:25:27.769 --> 00:25:35.480 safe They're basically NASA and Roscosmos, the 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:39.140 Russian space agency, worked through the concerns 00:25:39.140 --> 00:25:45.279 that went along with that and were able to fly 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:51.400 another set of crew fairly soon after that and 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:55.079 they didn't have a situation where the space 00:25:55.079 --> 00:26:01.750 station had no crew on board. internationally 00:26:01.750 --> 00:26:05.809 everyone wants to not have the space station 00:26:05.809 --> 00:26:09.470 without a crew on it and that is an important 00:26:09.470 --> 00:26:13.549 piece here and how that gets worked is I'll say 00:26:13.549 --> 00:26:16.329 beyond my pay grade because I don't work on that 00:26:16.329 --> 00:26:18.809 anymore but what I can tell you because of course 00:26:18.809 --> 00:26:21.950 I had some insight being working at NASA is that 00:26:21.950 --> 00:26:23.970 you know there are opportunities where they can 00:26:23.970 --> 00:26:27.349 extend the crew I mean they can you mentioned 00:26:27.349 --> 00:26:31.819 an expiration date well you know, there's margin 00:26:31.819 --> 00:26:34.759 in some of these things and extending out longer 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:39.039 is an option. And so that's just one of the many 00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:41.539 options we're looking at. But the most important 00:26:41.539 --> 00:26:43.259 thing, and I'm going to go back to what I started 00:26:43.259 --> 00:26:48.400 with, is we need to have a diverse set and robust 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:54.000 set of vehicles to fly because there's going 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.359 to be a problem here and there. And unfortunately, 00:26:57.900 --> 00:27:00.839 We are down to one vehicle, that's Soyuz only. 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.779 And Soyuz is a phenomenal vehicle. But we all 00:27:06.779 --> 00:27:09.319 need to have this diversity of vehicles. And 00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:12.359 that's why NASA, when it started the Commercial 00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:14.380 Crew Program, they didn't want to have one vehicle. 00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:17.640 They wanted to have at least two. And there's 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:19.799 others out there that might make it three or 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.599 four in the future. But at least two that could 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.619 go into orbit and dock with Space Station. Does 00:27:26.619 --> 00:27:33.259 that make sense? Yep. Yep. So hopefully it doesn't 00:27:33.259 --> 00:27:37.099 happen. Well, yes, of course. We don't want that. 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:42.160 We do not want that to happen. So you asked about 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:47.220 how it would impact Eris. Well, Eris is primarily 00:27:47.220 --> 00:27:49.519 a crew -tended capability. We're trying to change 00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:53.660 that. That's a future thing, too, in that to 00:27:53.660 --> 00:27:56.839 be able to command directly to our station and 00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.640 do things like that. But our station is primarily 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.180 a crew -tended activity. So if the crew's not 00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:08.599 there, they're not going to do contacts. And 00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:14.359 whether we kept APRS on or not, that probably 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.299 would have to shut it down because we don't have 00:28:17.299 --> 00:28:22.079 the ability to turn it off remotely, I'll say. 00:28:23.059 --> 00:28:26.559 OK. All right, very good. Well, we are running 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.579 behind, but we've got so much to talk about. 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.319 So that's, uh, that's all right. But when we 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.180 come back, we're going to talk about bees in 00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:39.759 space. So we'll talk about that and figure that 00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:41.900 out right after this word from icon of America 00:28:41.900 --> 00:28:45.720 right here on ham talk live. 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Yeah, astrobees is a set of robotic 00:31:13.250 --> 00:31:16.170 systems that are going to be operating on Space 00:31:16.170 --> 00:31:20.990 Station being coordinated through the Ames Research 00:31:20.990 --> 00:31:25.329 Center. And right now there are some robotic 00:31:25.329 --> 00:31:32.329 vehicles. They're called SPHERES and CASIS, the 00:31:32.329 --> 00:31:34.450 Center for the Advancement of Science in Space. 00:31:35.289 --> 00:31:39.970 Has a program called first. I'm sorry zero robotics. 00:31:40.670 --> 00:31:44.849 We're actually students do competition with these 00:31:44.849 --> 00:31:49.789 fear spheres Satellites if you will there satellites 00:31:49.789 --> 00:31:55.569 inside the space station The Astro bees are supposed 00:31:55.569 --> 00:32:00.170 to be Like that but more companions to the crew 00:32:00.170 --> 00:32:03.230 in other words being able to do different things 00:32:03.230 --> 00:32:06.940 for the crew members We're starting to see robots 00:32:06.940 --> 00:32:11.279 in stores and things like that now, you know, 00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.059 internal the space station, you know, being a, 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.700 and then of course we've got Alexa and Siri and 00:32:16.700 --> 00:32:21.039 things like that. Having something like that 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:25.500 on space stations is important. And so that's 00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:30.799 what the primary purpose of these Astro -B robots 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.539 are. Now the interesting thing when you spheres 00:32:35.539 --> 00:32:38.700 could only be in one module whereas these astra 00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:42.940 be Robots which are you know about the size of 00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:45.180 a little bit bigger than a CubeSat Okay, for 00:32:45.180 --> 00:32:48.160 those that understand, you know how big a CubeSat 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:55.339 is What They can do is they can propel themselves 00:32:55.339 --> 00:32:58.880 into different modules so if they can come into 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:03.779 this Columbus module, which is the case You know, 00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.640 there could be an opportunity where ham radio 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.200 and these asterisks communicate with one another 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:13.859 and We do some different things with them and 00:33:13.859 --> 00:33:16.920 so we've been in some preliminary discussions 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.799 with some of the folks at Ames and in cases about 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:25.839 these ideas and and We're you know, all I can 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.079 say is stay tuned we've got some meetings later 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.339 this year. So this is not going to happen this 00:33:32.339 --> 00:33:34.960 year, but maybe next year or the year after. 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.480 Not sure yet. And it all is a function of whether 00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:43.200 we can come up with an agreement that suits everybody. 00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:47.339 But that's pretty much the idea. And it's a pretty 00:33:47.339 --> 00:33:52.920 cool little device. And it has capabilities, 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.420 communication capabilities, that we can leverage 00:33:55.420 --> 00:34:02.329 off of. All right. It sounds pretty cool. Some 00:34:02.329 --> 00:34:06.190 of the things that you could actually do by, 00:34:06.190 --> 00:34:08.530 you know, you could control it and it'll respond 00:34:08.530 --> 00:34:12.010 somehow and that's pretty cool that you'd be 00:34:12.010 --> 00:34:15.369 able to do that up in the space station. So hopefully 00:34:15.369 --> 00:34:18.420 that will all... pan out. Well, let's get to 00:34:18.420 --> 00:34:23.340 some of these questions here. First off, Jim 00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:29.380 Wilson K5ND sent us a question. He wants to know, 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.840 when will approved ARIS contacts for the second 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:38.360 half of 2019 be announced? Oh, that's a good 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:42.079 question. Yeah, we are running a little longer 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:48.159 than normal this year. But let me just say that 00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:51.059 we are on the cusp of making the announcement 00:34:51.059 --> 00:34:56.360 I can't what we've publicly said is that before 00:34:56.360 --> 00:35:01.699 the end of the Sorry by around the first of February 00:35:01.699 --> 00:35:03.699 we would be making the announcement while we're 00:35:03.699 --> 00:35:05.559 getting awful close to the first of February 00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:11.340 and I would say with I would say within the week 00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:16.110 we will make announcements on that so That's 00:35:16.110 --> 00:35:19.349 probably the best thing to me to say. So again, 00:35:19.670 --> 00:35:22.570 stay tuned, but it won't be too long, so. Yeah. 00:35:22.809 --> 00:35:28.010 Okay, very good. And then Kevin Zeri, KK4YEL, 00:35:28.349 --> 00:35:31.929 wrote in about some NASA on -the -air things 00:35:31.929 --> 00:35:35.349 and says, how cool was it to work with the NASA 00:35:35.349 --> 00:35:38.389 on -the -air group? And hams around the globe 00:35:38.389 --> 00:35:42.090 were excited to receive those slow scan images. 00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:49.219 And so tell us about the potential for retransmission 00:35:49.219 --> 00:35:52.900 of those images. OK, well, let me just first 00:35:52.900 --> 00:35:55.460 say NASA on the Air has been a really cool program. 00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.739 I really applaud the whole team on what they've 00:35:59.739 --> 00:36:04.340 done. We are trying to do our part. Airis is 00:36:04.340 --> 00:36:07.860 trying to do our part and help them, enable them 00:36:07.860 --> 00:36:13.260 to continue. describing the legacy or the history 00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:18.099 of NASA and so in this we're going to have a 00:36:18.099 --> 00:36:22.559 slow -scale television event that will have several 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.780 images from the note of team the NASA on the 00:36:25.780 --> 00:36:30.539 air team as well as some specific historic items 00:36:30.539 --> 00:36:33.800 associated with the image radio in space and 00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:39.590 so that is going to occur February 8th To February 00:36:39.590 --> 00:36:42.349 10th, so we're talking a little little more than 00:36:42.349 --> 00:36:45.690 a week away You will there will be a press release. 00:36:46.349 --> 00:36:50.730 It's literally being worked as we speak here 00:36:50.730 --> 00:36:57.130 The plan is that we will use the similar Mode 00:36:57.130 --> 00:37:00.170 sstv mode that we've been using in the past which 00:37:00.170 --> 00:37:05.530 has been PD 120 and My understanding is we would 00:37:05.530 --> 00:37:09.670 expect this to start on February 8th around 1825 00:37:09.670 --> 00:37:14.750 UTC. So, um, it should be very interesting. I 00:37:14.750 --> 00:37:19.789 think we've got eight, um, Noda images and, um, 00:37:19.889 --> 00:37:25.110 uh, four, uh, human space flight, um, image radio 00:37:25.110 --> 00:37:28.409 images in there. And so, uh, I think people will, 00:37:28.670 --> 00:37:33.190 uh, will enjoy that. All right. So that's coming 00:37:33.190 --> 00:37:35.989 up and, and you got to work with somebody really 00:37:35.989 --> 00:37:41.690 cool like Kevin's area. Yeah. I give a shout 00:37:41.690 --> 00:37:44.670 out to Kevin. I appreciate him and, uh, and, 00:37:44.670 --> 00:37:48.349 and Scott and, uh, and Rob Suggs, uh, all, all 00:37:48.349 --> 00:37:50.170 have been, uh, working with us pretty closely 00:37:50.170 --> 00:37:55.329 on the SSTV activities. All right. Well, we had 00:37:55.329 --> 00:37:58.230 to, we had to get Kevin in there, but, uh, you 00:37:58.230 --> 00:38:01.670 know, those images, uh, there were some issues 00:38:01.670 --> 00:38:05.360 and, and, you know, Working through those and 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.780 and so that'll be a great chance to try to catch 00:38:08.780 --> 00:38:13.840 those again We've got some greetings from John 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:19.119 in for JTK from warm Orlando, Florida So thanks 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.539 for listening John and JD JJ 1 in JM says good 00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:26.500 morning from Japan. So we've got an international 00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:31.000 audience here about the International Space Station. 00:38:31.500 --> 00:38:34.000 So if you have a question, give us a call. That 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:40.010 phone number is 812. 650 -9556. We have Frank 00:38:40.010 --> 00:38:43.090 on here for a few more minutes tonight, so give 00:38:43.090 --> 00:38:48.630 us a call. 812 -650 -9556 is the number to call 00:38:48.630 --> 00:38:52.650 for this evening and we'll keep going here. We've 00:38:52.650 --> 00:38:56.170 got a tweet from Patrick. WD9EWK says, nice to 00:38:56.170 --> 00:38:59.630 hear Frank on and glad to hear the crew located 00:38:59.630 --> 00:39:03.090 that replacement packet module and is hoping 00:39:03.090 --> 00:39:06.429 that can get back on the air soon. I guess I 00:39:06.429 --> 00:39:10.269 don't feel quite so bad now if I lose my keys. 00:39:14.329 --> 00:39:19.389 They lost the packet module. They found it. It 00:39:19.389 --> 00:39:23.570 was lost and has now been found. I will tell 00:39:23.570 --> 00:39:28.190 you, I got to say some real kudos. Of course, 00:39:28.289 --> 00:39:32.650 go to our Ares team and getting that packet module 00:39:32.650 --> 00:39:37.150 done quickly. Also, our payload integration manager, 00:39:37.429 --> 00:39:40.989 Juliet Tseng, really worked hard to make sure 00:39:40.989 --> 00:39:45.449 we got on the progress flight when we did because 00:39:45.449 --> 00:39:47.570 we were trying to get it up there as quickly 00:39:47.570 --> 00:39:51.070 as possible. So, you know, we turned that around 00:39:51.070 --> 00:39:54.309 in just a couple of months and that's pretty 00:39:54.309 --> 00:39:57.389 cool if you think about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, a 00:39:57.389 --> 00:40:02.090 couple of months for the red tape alone is pretty 00:40:02.090 --> 00:40:07.619 amazing. Very good stuff. All right. Well, let's 00:40:07.619 --> 00:40:13.400 take one more standby here for calls at 812 -650 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:17.719 -9556 or you can tweet us. We've got several 00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.820 of those coming in tonight. So let us know what 00:40:21.820 --> 00:40:24.539 your questions are here while we have Frank before 00:40:24.539 --> 00:40:29.539 he takes off yet again in the morning. I think 00:40:29.539 --> 00:40:32.179 he's busier than I am, which is kind of scary. 00:40:33.610 --> 00:40:38.750 Let's see, you know, we had this big, we hosted 00:40:38.750 --> 00:40:42.369 here in the, I say we, the United States, the 00:40:42.369 --> 00:40:47.210 International Ares Conference this year and I 00:40:47.210 --> 00:40:50.349 know that cool dude Kevin Zeri was there too. 00:40:51.190 --> 00:40:53.710 So tell us a little bit about that. I know there 00:40:53.710 --> 00:40:57.090 was a whole lot going on and we don't have, you 00:40:57.090 --> 00:40:59.389 know, a lot of time, but tell us a little bit 00:40:59.389 --> 00:41:01.989 about hosting that and some of the things that 00:41:01.989 --> 00:41:04.860 happened here this summer. Okay, yeah, I can 00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:08.739 I mean one thing I want to say Because we did 00:41:08.739 --> 00:41:13.239 do this both at the M set meeting as well as 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.960 at the heiress meeting in College Park, Maryland 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:21.820 It was great to have Serena, you know on the 00:41:21.820 --> 00:41:25.719 air and she got on and said a few words to some 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.820 of the folks at the heiress meeting as well as 00:41:27.820 --> 00:41:31.190 at the M set meeting and to hams all over the 00:41:31.190 --> 00:41:34.170 world. It was phenomenal to see that. We haven't 00:41:34.170 --> 00:41:37.630 had too many astronauts get on the air, and that 00:41:37.630 --> 00:41:43.269 was great. The heiress meeting went very well. 00:41:43.889 --> 00:41:46.570 We had individuals, of course, from all over 00:41:46.570 --> 00:41:51.769 the world. And then another thing we did was 00:41:51.769 --> 00:41:56.139 we had an education summit. So let me talk a 00:41:56.139 --> 00:41:58.440 little bit about the ERIS meeting. One of the 00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.260 things we're working on, a project that we're 00:42:02.260 --> 00:42:06.539 working on, is looking at the Deep Space Gateway, 00:42:06.659 --> 00:42:10.719 which is the next project in human spaceflight, 00:42:10.820 --> 00:42:16.659 which is to actually bring people around the 00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:22.019 vicinity of the Moon. And we had someone from 00:42:22.019 --> 00:42:25.260 NASA present. on Gateway, very interested. They're 00:42:25.260 --> 00:42:28.619 very interested in us being involved from an 00:42:28.619 --> 00:42:30.780 education perspective, from an amateur radio 00:42:30.780 --> 00:42:36.000 perspective. So we're working that. We've got 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.119 an exploration team that, ARIS has an exploration 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.480 team that's looking at what kind of antennas 00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:44.599 we need and radios and both on the ground and 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.940 in space. So that was an interesting piece of 00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:50.260 the ARIS meeting that we had. Of course, we talked 00:42:50.260 --> 00:42:53.469 about the hardware systems, the interoperable 00:42:53.469 --> 00:42:56.429 radio system, which will also, I didn't say this, 00:42:56.570 --> 00:42:59.010 but we'll have a voice repeater on there too. 00:42:59.289 --> 00:43:01.750 So I, you know, we'll have packet, we'll have 00:43:01.750 --> 00:43:04.789 voice repeater and all kinds of things like that. 00:43:05.050 --> 00:43:07.889 And then we had this education summit, which 00:43:07.889 --> 00:43:11.309 was the first time we've ever done it. We brought 00:43:11.309 --> 00:43:15.969 in educators from our education committee within 00:43:15.969 --> 00:43:20.800 ARIS, as well as educators from around the vicinity 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:27.400 of Maryland, and also our two major, our two 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:32.079 organizations that provide funding for us, CASIS, 00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:33.800 the Center for the Advancement of Science in 00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:38.199 Space, and NASA's Space Communication Navigation 00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:40.880 Organization. So they came in, brought in all 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.019 kinds of education ideas. The idea of the education 00:43:44.019 --> 00:43:49.099 summit was to get our educators better. To better 00:43:49.099 --> 00:43:51.019 understand what's going on in heiress because 00:43:51.019 --> 00:43:53.980 they attended the heiress meeting what's going 00:43:53.980 --> 00:43:58.519 on relative to Amongst themselves to improve 00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:03.900 our overall Education outcomes that that we do 00:44:03.900 --> 00:44:09.519 with heiress the more these teachers that That 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.059 have had an heiress contact can convey to other 00:44:12.059 --> 00:44:16.000 teachers what it's like and some of the pitfalls 00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:20.340 and the positives That just provides a better 00:44:20.340 --> 00:44:23.699 opportunity every time we do these so all in 00:44:23.699 --> 00:44:27.300 all Of course, I'm biased but all in all we had 00:44:27.300 --> 00:44:30.500 a really good. We had a really good set of sessions 00:44:30.500 --> 00:44:33.340 both internationally With the air speeding as 00:44:33.340 --> 00:44:36.840 well as you know with the education summit Yeah, 00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.659 I've heard heard all kinds of good comments about 00:44:39.659 --> 00:44:44.059 both and so I think while you may be biased I 00:44:44.059 --> 00:44:48.150 think you're still accurate so That's uh, that's 00:44:48.150 --> 00:44:50.869 some good stuff and and we've got more school 00:44:50.869 --> 00:44:56.090 contacts coming up and Jim K5 nd says he's got 00:44:56.090 --> 00:45:02.050 his fingers crossed for the let's see which One 00:45:02.050 --> 00:45:05.670 was it it was a scouting event and I scrolled 00:45:05.670 --> 00:45:10.550 down the page World jamboree. Yes world jamboree 00:45:10.550 --> 00:45:14.059 fingers crossed for that. So we'll Will know 00:45:14.059 --> 00:45:20.400 soon, so yes, we will know soon I can't divulge 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:26.440 anything All right. Well, Frank, I know you've 00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.400 got to catch a flight in the morning. So we will 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.340 get you out of here on time. But thanks so much 00:45:32.340 --> 00:45:35.039 for coming back on the show again to update us 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:39.079 as we do from time to time and all kinds of cool 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:43.000 projects, both hardware and human stuff going 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.460 on. And appreciate your time and have a good 00:45:46.460 --> 00:45:51.400 flight. And we'll catch you on here next time 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:55.070 and talk more about it. Okay, Neil. Well, thank 00:45:55.070 --> 00:45:57.869 you very much for having the opportunity to share 00:45:57.869 --> 00:46:00.989 what's going on in ARIS. As you can hear, there's 00:46:00.989 --> 00:46:03.809 a lot of interesting and exciting things across 00:46:03.809 --> 00:46:06.949 operations, across hardware development, across 00:46:06.949 --> 00:46:11.010 education. And I just, you know, say one more 00:46:11.010 --> 00:46:13.650 time, you know, we're trying to build these hardware 00:46:13.650 --> 00:46:16.250 systems right now and keep this program going. 00:46:16.929 --> 00:46:19.210 And any kind of donations anybody can provide 00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:22.800 through the ARIS. website at the donate button 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.800 would be very much appreciated. And if you donate 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:32.199 over at AMSAT it's 100 % going over to the ARIS 00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:34.739 as long as you click on that ARIS donate button. 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:39.559 So I would love to see that be taken care of 00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:43.480 so that way that can get going and maybe this 00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.920 year that sounds like a great opportunity and 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:51.340 a great timeline if that can actually get pulled 00:46:51.340 --> 00:46:56.460 off by the end of the year. Alright, well thanks 00:46:56.460 --> 00:47:00.860 Frank. Appreciate it and that is a wrap for this 00:47:00.860 --> 00:47:04.230 week's edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks to Frank 00:47:04.230 --> 00:47:07.469 Bauer, KA3 HDO, and everyone out there in cyberspace 00:47:07.469 --> 00:47:10.889 for listening and typing in tonight. And invite 00:47:10.889 --> 00:47:14.010 you back next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern 00:47:14.010 --> 00:47:19.230 Time. 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