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Good evening, everyone. It's time for HamTalk
Live episode number 163. WWV 100th anniversary
forum at the Dayton Hamvention. It's Hamvention
preview recorded live on Thursday, May 2nd, 2019.
I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9 VPG. Thanks for
tuning in. to this episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight,
we're joined by Matt Deutsch in Zero RGT and
Dave Swartz, W -0 -D -A -S, live from WWV in
Fort Collins, Colorado. And we'll take your calls
live in just a few minutes. Last week here on
the show, Michael Coulter, W -8 -C -I, the Spokesperson
for the Dayton Hamvention and co -chair of the
awards committee was here along with Hamvention
amateur of the year, Dr. Nathaniel Frisell W2NAF
to talk about the Hamvention award winners for
this year. If you missed that show, you can listen
to that anytime over at HamTalkLive .com or on
your favorite podcast app or YouTube. You can
also catch the rebroadcast on WTWW 50858 Saturday
evenings at or about 630 p .m. Eastern Time.
Hamvention preview continues tonight and next
week Michael Coulter, WHCI, will be back and
he's going to give us all the latest news and
changes to this year's Dayton Hamvention and
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-259 .com Matt Deutch in zero RGT has been the
chief engineer of WWV and WWVB for the National
Institute of Standards and Technology in Fort
Collins, Colorado since 1989. From 1979 to 1991
he was an electronic technician for the Coast
Guard and Matt received his amateur radio license
in 1992. Dave Schwartz, W0DAS lives in Fort Collins,
Colorado, and was first licensed as a teenager
in Pennsylvania in 1974. Dave graduated from
Colorado State University as a geologist in 1982
and became a high school science teacher at Rocky
Mountain High School. And Dave was helping organize
the WWV Centennial Celebration. So Matt and Dave,
welcome to HamTalk Live. Hey, good evening, Neil.
It's great to have you both here and folks you're
gonna have to call in during the call in segment
because I'm a high school chemistry teacher and
Dave was a high school teacher and so if we don't
get calls tonight, you're just gonna hear bad
science jokes all night. So you're gonna have
to call in. Dave, we're going to actually start
with you, um, and talk a little bit about the
actual 100th anniversary before Matt tells us
about the forum at Dayton. Um, so I don't want
you to give everything away because we want people
to go to the forum, but, um, tell us a little
bit about what's being planned to celebrate the
centennial of WWV. Well, thanks, deal. We've
got all kinds of things planned for the event.
The special events radio station that we're going
to have has the call sign WW0WWV. And we're real
thrilled to be able to get that. And we're going
to have it up on air starting on September 28,
that 0000 universal time. And so that ends up
being a Friday night at 6 o 'clock. And that'll
be September 28. and then we're gonna run the
station for five days till October 2nd. We plan
to be on the air 24 hours a day and we'll have
four stations. We are thrilled to announce that
Ellicraft is gonna provide us with some of our
equipment for the operating stations. They're
gonna provide four KX3 transceivers and four
KPA 500, 500 watt amplifiers. So we're really
thrilled that they're gonna be providing us with
some of the important equipment we'll need. The
operation is going to be on the HF bands, will
be multimodal, and we will be trying to run that,
like I said, the entire time. We do need operators,
so we have a wonderful website at www .100 .com.
That's www .100 .com, where people could read
up a little bit more about the plans for the
operations. And if you're interested in coming
to Colorado, and taking part in this, we would
like to hear from you. So make sure you check
it out. And, uh, I'm sure we'll fill in some
other details. I'm not thinking of right now,
but that's a quick overview. All right. Very
good day. Well, that sounds like a fun time.
Five days straight, all day, all night, all WWV
all the time. So there we go. Well, Matt, we've
Got Dayton coming up here and you guys are coming
out here to to host the forum, but We're not
we weren't real sure this was going to happen.
But We're so glad that WWV survived the the budget
proposals We couldn't be happier to say that
the hundredth anniversary of WWV is indeed happening
So you're coming out out to Dayton to talk about
it. So give us a little teaser what you're going
to be offering Sunday morning at the forum Okay,
well I'm First of all, you know, I want to say
about the the budget, you know I can't say too
much about it with a you know, they're sensitive
about you advocating for your own job, but I'd
like to quote Mark Twain saying, the reports
of my death have been greatly exaggerated, so
I think we're good for a while longer here at
WWV. Now, Dave and I are both planning to go
to the Hamvention. Dave is going to be manning
a booth there, giving out information about the
Special Event Station and some information about
WWV. My daughter has... is planning to have a
baby that weekend. Oh, wonderful. Yes, thank
you. And I committed to that before the Hamvention.
And so unfortunately, her C -section is going
to be that Friday. So I'll only be there on Sunday.
But Dave has thankfully agreed to man the booth
that has been set aside for WWD and the special
event station. And he's going to be promoting
the activities there. And on Sunday, I want to
fly in Saturday night and I'll be there Sunday
morning to talk about the 100th anniversary of
the radio station. And my forum is mainly going
to be just talking about the history of the station,
the last 100 years of the station. And as you
know, it's the world's oldest continuously broadcasting
radio station in the world. And I always like
to throw that out there to as many people as
possible in case someone knows. that that's not
true or not. I'd like to know about it. I don't
want to be saying it if it's not true, but so
far no one's challenged it. We've done some research
and we think it's true. One of our technicians
is working on a very thorough history of the
radio station. We have an excellent book called
Achievement in Radio, which gives a good history
of the radio station. The technician here, Glenn
Nelson, is delving even deeper. He's going to
National Archives and looking at newspaper articles
about the station and the early history. And
I'll be presenting all the known facts that he's
garnered and hopefully have some new information
about it. But, you know, NBS, National Bureau
of Standards, began in Washington, D .C., 1901,
but the NBS has been doing radio experimentation
as early as 1905. And so... You know, it's one
of those things that it was kind of hard when
we were talking about the 100th anniversary of
the station, when we wanted to have the celebration.
It isn't like they built the radio station, they
said, hey, we need a time and frequency station,
and we built it, and they threw a switch one
day, and it was on the air. It's one of those
things like just about any experiment or adventure
in science. It sort of just comes together piece
by piece. So, but we did find a date of the 1st
of October of 1919 as when the call sign WWV
was issued to the National Bureau of Standards.
And so even though the experiments were going
on before 1919, like I said back as far as 1905,
at some point they decided that the, you know,
we need to put a call sign on these radio experiments.
And so they were doing things like experimental
concerts. They had an old Victrola and a telephone
that was hooked up to an army transmitter. And
they would have experimental concerts that were
transmitted several hundred yards, they said,
across the MBS campus to an auditorium where
people would listen. Later on in that year, they
actually did farm market reports with a spark
gap. transmitter and in 1923 finally they got
around to doing broadcasting standard waves 500
to 1500 meters and that was to help the commercial
stations stay on their assigned frequency and
you know they needed some reference to be able
to you know one thing I'm learning about all
this is that how chaotic the airwaves were back
in the early 1900s I thought it was pretty quiet
but it was right away out of the gate. It was
very noisy, chaotic. A lot of people were experimenting.
So it's all been very interesting. And I'd like
to present some of the highlights of the station
history at the forum. I imagine that until there
was an agency that regulated everything that
I mean everything it was just a free -for -all
wasn't it? That's what it sounds like you know
early on in like 1906 the Navy was complaining
about how chaotic it was and a lot of people
were actually you know jamming or not jamming
but interfering with Navy signals and broadcast
And so there was a lot of frustration on the
Navy's part. In 1906, they called for some sort
of regulation and the Radio Act of 1912. So it
took six years before Congress. And I don't know
what went on in those intervening years. You
know, it's easy to just say, well, you know,
Congress took too long. But they went on to pass
the Radio Act where they said they wanted you
know some references and some control and and
uh regulation and then it wasn't until 1919 when
or 1923 when wwv began broadcasting the standard
wave uh broadcast to help the stations stay on
their assigned frequency so it took quite a while
but for it all to come together now have those
assigned frequencies I know you've expanded them
some. Last time you were on, you were talking
about the latest one that you've been kind of
experimenting with in the last few years. Have
those frequencies always been the same? No, as
a matter of fact, it's really interesting to
see where they've gone to back and forth. Obviously,
in the early days... 25 MHz and 20 MHz, that
was all relegated to the hams because those were
considered useless frequencies. Things that were
maybe 5 MHz and higher were considered useless
and they were given to the hams. They were down
around 300 kHz. There was another broadcast at
600 kHz. And so, yeah, the frequency they broadcast
that has changed quite a bit over the years.
And certainly the location. They moved out of
Washington D .C. and moved into Maryland, Greenbelt,
and began transmitting from there. It's been
a big adventure. Now, how long is the standard,
you know, 5, 10, or... to channel the old voice.
Five, ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty -five beggars.
How long has it been that way? You know, I know
it's been for a long time. I don't have the exact
dates, but I think since the 1950s is when they
started doing voice announcements. But don't
quote me on that. I've been focused mainly on
the 1920s and 30s so far and I'm working my way
through the history, but it's interesting. It
probably wouldn't be very recognizable to the
WWV listener today, would not really recognize
WWV of 50 years ago. Well, that's all some cool
history and information that is going to be presented
at this forum on Sunday of Hamvention and let's
see, that is 9 15 to 10 15 in room one. And so
if you're going to Hamvention, make sure you
check this out and again, check out the website
for the special event station for the 100th anniversary.
Now, Matt, how often do you make this? journey
to Dayton and can we look for more of these type
of visits in the future? This will actually be
my first visit and Dave's also to Hamvention.
It's certainly always one of those things that
you always say, well maybe next year I'll make
it. And actually we're working with, I don't
know if you're familiar with Paul English and
the Department of Defense and Mars. They set
aside a big block of rooms every year and they
actually were the ones that invited me and talked
me into going. And then the baby issue came along
and that's when Dave came to the rescue and said
he would cover part of what I had already committed
to in Hamvention. But we certainly, I know I'd
like to go back. I think I've already been told
by my supervisor that I will be going back next
year. So I'm looking forward to that. Well, yeah,
that would be great now, especially since your
trips gonna be cut short you need to experience
the whole thing so hopefully that's gonna be
true and you'll be able to get back and you won't
have any any last -second conflicts this time
around so All right, well, we're going to take
a break. When we come back, we're going to talk
about a few other events and then we're going
to open up the phone lines and give you all a
chance to ask some questions about WWV and the
100th anniversary celebration. And we'll keep
on talking with Matt and Dave right after this
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a couple of other events here real quickly before
we get back to Dave and to Matt. Don't forget
the Voice of America Museum has announced their
special Hamvention Hours. Thursday May 16th from
4 to 9, Friday May 17th from 4 to 9, Saturday
May 18th from 1 to 9, and Sunday May 19th from
1 to 5. Also the special WLW transmitter tour
is Saturday night only. from 630 to 9 p .m. and
pre -registration is required and it may be sold
out by the time you hear this. It's real close
to a sellout so be sure to check out voamuseum
.org for more information and I think they told
me today they're planning on a waiting list as
well for that tour so get over to voamuseum .org
and sign up soon because that is filling up fast.
So speaking of youth, we heard from Don Wilbanks
about the Youngham of the Year Award nominations
that are going to be due here at the end of the
month. Well, don't forget about Carol Perry's
Youth Forum and Instructor's Forum. The Instructor's
Forum is in room four on Friday from 1030 to
1130. The kids are presenting Saturday morning
from 9 15 until noon in room two. So don't miss
the youth forum and instructors forum. And there's
all kinds of prizes you can win for attending
those as well. So make sure you check that out.
Well, it's time for your calls right now. So
if you have a question for Matt or Dave, give
us a call. Again, the phone number tonight is
yet another new one. It's 812 -510 -4260. That's
812 -510 -4260 for tonight. You can tweet us
where you always tweet us. That's at HamTalk
Live. And if you're listening to us on WTWW or
on the podcast version, you won't be able to
reach us tonight because it's Thursday right
now, about nine thirty Eastern time. And so if
you're listening to us at another time, we're
not here. So. Give us a call if you are listening
live at 812 -510 -4260. And Dave, while we're
talking about youth, you've got some plans for
this special event station specifically for museums
and for youth. So why don't we start off talking
a little bit about that while we wait and see
if we have some questions. Yeah, you bet Neil.
One of the things that we're open to do, and
we will have as an extra station to be able to
schedule specific contacts with schools and with
museums, we'd like to see the history, the culture,
and the science behind WWV be shared around schools,
and I think this is a great opportunity for some
cross -curricular learning. It's not just a science
thing, but you know, it's really such a great
part of the American history and part of civic
history, the creation of of the National Bureau
of Standards to meet the calls of Congress and
of the Constitution that create standards. So
this whole thing has really got some great momentum
and possibilities, and we're looking forward
to sharing it with other people, especially students.
Yeah. You know, I talk about National Bureau
of Standards and NIST in my chemistry classes
because we have to teach measurement. We have
all these different measurement systems that
we need to be able to learn about and use and
standardize. And I always mention that there's
even a state radio station that plays the time
all the time. And so we have standard time so
that we're all on the same time. And a lot of
students don't realize that there actually is
a time standard out there. And so this is a chance
for them to talk to the actual location of that
transmitter and learn about it. Yeah, I think
it's a great chance to just sort of get exposed
to something that you don't really even, you
know, a lot of people in Fort Collins aren't
even aware. They're like, oh, you mean those
big towers north of town? And so this is a great
opportunity. Hopefully our community will also.
Get involved in this work. We're excited. We
think it'll be a great event and we'd love people
to come to Colorado and join us as well So people
are interested that WWB one zero zero comm you
can find a lot of information there Okay, and
Dave also let's talk a little bit and and let
me Repeat the phone number again 812 -510 -4260
or you can tweet us at HamTalkLive or again the
number 812 -510 -4260. Let's talk a little bit
about the Northern Colorado Amateur Radio Club
and their role in the big party here too. Well
the Northern Colorado Amateur Radio Club has
been around since the 1970s and there are a great
group of people where Last account that I was
aware of, about 240 members, so a lot of active
members in the club. They're very involved in
community programs, supporting races and events
throughout the community with radio contact.
Even this next week, we've got a big event that
we support. There's called the Quad Rock. It's
a big ultra trail event, 25 and 50 mile run.
You might have heard way back in February there
was a Coloradan who actually killed a mountain
lion with his bare hands and it happens to be
on these exact same trails. So hopefully we won't
have any run -ins with mountain lions and ham
radio operators on that. But we do all kinds
of crazy events like that. Bike events. One of
the biggest events of the year is the MS -150
and we're very lucky this year finally Field
Day and the MS -150 do not correspond. They're
usually on the same weekend so we'll have a little
bit more involvement in our field day events
this year as well. The club is very involved
in Ares and doing a lot of prep work. This particular
part of the country is right at the edge of the
mountains and the plains and we actually get
some quite severe weather so the Skywar Network
with the National Weather Service is a very popular
uh... group that uh... does a lot of work with
the club club members are members of areas and
back and forth so all of those are reported they're
all we keep ourselves business but that way uh...
it's it's a fun and active club and uh... we're
really thrilled they're really put something
together what we're trying to propose you can't
do it with just one or two people you need a
club like we've got and uh... so it's it's great
to have that support system We are really looking
forward to hosting this event. All right well
be sure to check that website out and take a
look and if you can go out and visit it sounds
like a whole lot of fun. If you want to ask a
question You need to tweet us here or call us
in the next couple of minutes because we're finishing
up here So at ham talk live on Twitter or eight
one two five one zero four two six zero now Matt
Last time you were on the show. We were talking
about this New backup generator. How's the generator
working? Generator works great and I know part
of the big talk last time was the fact that all
our broadcast frequencies were down for an hour
or so. We're off the air while we wired in the
new generator, but it's a big, beautiful generator.
It's actually a Cummins generator, and interestingly
enough, Cummins is 100 years old this year. you
know a little interesting little tidbit i've
been researching other companies that are you
know a and w root beer is 100 years old this
year so uh there's a a lot of uh interesting
uh coincidences out there but uh yeah the the
generator is working great and commons is just
30 miles down the road from me so uh there you
go now no wait a minute now now this afternoon
on email we were we were getting a little slap
happy i think Malto meal? Malto meal, yeah. M
-O -M. Malto meal began in 1919. Dave and I actually
have some candies in front of us. Bob's candies.
It's a peppermint ball. You may have seen them
in the store. That's 100 years old also. Bob's
candies is 100 years old. So we're, you know,
maybe we'll have an official peppermint. We'll
have an official... root beer and we're thinking
about having you know politicians at the event
but you know I'm rethinking that you know we
might instead of suits and ties maybe we'll have
Papa Bear you know I have Papa Bear to come out
and hand out onion rings and root beers so yeah
so the slap happy does continue I am on a lot
of cold meds right now so I've got to be careful
what I say Well, my friend Troy W9KVR, who by
the way, Dave is a middle school earth science
teacher, just logged in and says, nice geologic
compass on tilted sandstone beds on the HamTalk
Live Twitter promo from your picture. Oh yeah,
I forgot. I have a selfie in a Brunton compass
on a on slightly dipping, oh I can't remember
the formation of that. But I thought it was a
better picture than most people had up. It was
an interesting one and it caught my eye so that's
what I used on the promo. But Troy just got back
from caving with students and saw the picture
and couldn't resist commenting. So thanks Troy
and thanks for listening. Troy, I love caving.
Earth science teachers, they know how to find
the comfort zone. He says Brunton is the best.
And they're made just north of us up in Wyoming.
So there you go. He was caving around here in
my territory every once in a while. In fact,
School Club Roundup fell on one of his field
trips down to, I think it's Spring Mill, which
is just about 20 miles south of here. And they
got on from the school bus on School Club Roundup
because that was the only way they were going
to get on. So combined the ham radio and the
geology. So yeah, that's dedication. I'm telling
you. Oh, we have a listener from Japan chiming
in here, JDJJ1NJM, and he says, as a listener
in Japan, what WWV transmitters have the most
consistent coverage in North and Southeast Asia?
That sounds like a Matt question. Which frequencies
have the most coverage? Yes. Well, you know,
as hams, you know, it's one of those things that
you sort of realize after a while that all frequencies,
you know, and that's one of the reasons we broadcast
in so many frequencies is the frequency diversity.
The changing conditions all the time, you would
see, you know, under certain conditions, the
lower frequencies getting through in different
parts of the day, different seasons, you know,
favors different frequencies. We like to say
usually in general the 10 megahertz is the one
that gets through the most. That's the frequency
that we always, you know, if you listen to one,
only one, the 10 megahertz is what we recommend.
And WWVH in Hawaii, you know, being much closer
and there's that nice saltwater path to Japan.
I bet WWVH comes in a lot stronger than WWV.
Yeah, I would think so. And, you know, my response
to that is with band conditions these days and
the solar cycle, it's whatever band happens to
work. Right. So 10 is probably your best bet
there. But yeah, you may just have to try them
all. But probably not going to pick it up on
two meters. So there we go. No. All right. Well.
We'll see if we have any more questions here,
but we're going to finish things up now Matt
you're you're barely going to get to Hamvention
and then turn around and go Dave Have you got
any plans or anything that you just have to do?
Well, I sure would like to go out and visit the
VOA Museum so I'm definitely considering doing
that I'm a little disappointed. I'm gonna have
to man the boots so much because I won't see
as much, so that would be a good excuse for me
to come back next year. There you go. Well, we'd
love to have you down at the museum. I love museums
and food, so I'm looking forward to, I understand
there's a lot of world -class museums in that
area. And I'd like to see those and get a bite
to eat. I understand there's a lot of good food
and something about chili from Cincinnati or
something like that. Is that true? Yeah, yeah,
that is true. Skyline Chili in Cincinnati and
we're going to be going to that I think on Saturday
night and before we go to the museum at the Voice
of America Museum and tour WLW as well. That's
a that's a must -do and Of course the Wright
-Patterson Air Force Base has a museum there
and lots of lots of interesting things So hopefully
you can you can get back, but there's a running
gag on on the show You mentioned food at Hamvention
There's a running gag on the show about cheesecake
on a stick So we have to talk about cheesecake
on a stick. We haven't talked about it this year
yet, but back when Hamvention was in Hera Arena
in the middle of all of the interconnected buildings
which was kind of amazed to try to figure out
what building everybody was in right in the middle
where it all connected was the the food court
and right in the middle of that where the Hallways
kind of intersected there was a freezer There
and somebody was always selling cheesecake on
a stick. So it was kind of like a locator So
you say okay you go down this hall and then when
you get to the cheesecake on a stick you turn
left And you go down there and then when they
moved they didn't have any cheesecake on a stick
So on this program, on this very program, I said,
we gotta get Cheesecake on a Stick back. And
I actually went to the maker of the Cheesecake
on a Stick and found out who was selling their
Cheesecake on a Stick at Hamvention. And it didn't
work out, but last year we had three different
places selling Cheesecake on a Stick. You have
to try it. Yeah, I'm going to try that. If I
can find them, I'm going to try that. I like
that. Cheesecake on a stick. There's a lot of
good food trucks there. Lots of different things.
There's bourbon chicken and homemade ice cream
and you name it, it's there pretty much. Carl,
KD9HQT says 15 megahertz is 30 over 9 as we're
recording tonight. So there's your signal report,
Matt. Where's he at? He's right here in Bloomington,
actually. Bloomington, yeah. Just down the street,
actually. Looks good. So, there you go. Well,
you even got a signal report. You're 5 .9. Imagine
that. What about 25 megahertz? That's my favorite.
Oh, okay. We'll see if Carl checks 25 megahertz
real quick. Somebody needs to. Well, I can't
imagine somebody getting a 5 -9 for a ham, you
know, it's It's 5 -9 all the time. So yeah well,
we'll see if he if he pops that in here real
quick, but Sounds like you guys have a fun time
planned and Hopefully Matt you can get some more
time at hamvention next year But we look forward
to you being there on Sunday for the forum and
Dave's gonna be around for the weekend man the
booth and come around and visit with folks and
tell them all about the 100th anniversary of
WWV. So we thank you both for coming on the show.
It's been a lot of fun and hope to see you here
in just a couple of weeks. Thanks, Deal. We look
forward to meeting you there and thanks for having
us on tonight. It was great. Yeah, thank you.
Okay, oh Matt, I've got your signal report nothing
on 20 or 25 Okay, but he can hear he can he can
hear your competition Wwvh on 15. Oh, okay All
right guys well, thanks so much for being on
the show and and Dave, remind us again of the
website. It is www .v100 .com. Alright, make
sure you check that out. the special events coming
up the end of September and October. So make
sure you check that out. Well, that's a wrap
for this edition of Ham Talk Live. Thanks to
my guests, Matt Deutsch, N0RGT, and Dave Swartz,
W0DAS, and everybody out there in cyberspace
for listening and typing in. And I invite you
back next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time
when Michael Coulter, W8CI, the official spokesperson
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about the very latest news from Hamvention and
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So I told the guys it wouldn't be right if I
didn't play the WWV spoof that we played last
time, so we're going to play the tick one last
time, but I'll go ahead and sign off for tonight
and then we'll listen to the tick and enjoy a
little comic relief here. So for now, this is
Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying seven three, seven
five, and may the good DX be yours. Same time,
same station, every time, WWV. One, two, three,
four. Every second counts at WWV. For a good
time, call 555 -4 -WWV. WWV, for the time of
your life. We'll be back with the time on WWV
in just a minute. But first, here's another minute.
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