WEBVTT 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:12.740 Thanks for tuning in. HamTalk Live will be on 00:00:12.740 --> 00:00:30.719 the air shortly. Please stand by. This episode 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:34.299 of HamTalk Live is brought to you by Tower Electronics. 00:00:34.740 --> 00:00:39.000 For connectors, cables, and more, call 920 -435 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:45.740 -2973 or visit pl -259 .com. And by ICOM, heard 00:00:45.740 --> 00:00:50.939 it, worked it, logged it. Visit www .icomamerica 00:00:50.939 --> 00:00:54.679 .com slash amateur for more information about 00:00:54.679 --> 00:01:31.359 ICOM radios. Good evening, everyone. It's time 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:36.920 for HamTalk Live, episode number 167, the Digicom 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:42.719 Cafe, recorded live on Thursday, May 30th, 2019. 00:01:42.859 --> 00:01:47.040 I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks for 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:50.799 tuning in to this episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight, 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:55.019 we're joined by Denny Johnson, KD5DLJ, and we'll 00:01:55.019 --> 00:01:58.819 take your calls live in just a few minutes. Last 00:01:58.819 --> 00:02:02.480 week here on the show author Dr. DM Barrett in 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:06.819 for ECW was here to talk about his new sci -fi 00:02:06.819 --> 00:02:10.280 book Equinox and if you missed the show you can 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:14.210 listen anytime at HamTalkLive .com or on your 00:02:14.210 --> 00:02:17.710 favorite podcast app or YouTube, or you can catch 00:02:17.710 --> 00:02:23.909 the rebroadcast on WTWW 5085 AM Saturday evenings 00:02:23.909 --> 00:02:28.870 at or about 630 PM Eastern Time. So get your 00:02:28.870 --> 00:02:31.330 questions ready to go about the Digicom Cafe. 00:02:31.469 --> 00:02:33.969 If you're listening to us live on Thursday night, 00:02:34.449 --> 00:02:37.229 you can call us after the interview by calling 00:02:39.380 --> 00:02:43.000 812 -650 -9556. 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The grass may be greener on the other side, 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:12.659 but at least we don't have to mow it. You're 00:04:12.659 --> 00:04:22.639 listening to Ham Talk Live with Neil Rapp. Thanks 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:25.899 to Scott and Jill at Tower Electronics for sponsoring 00:04:25.899 --> 00:04:28.439 the show once again tonight to help bring you 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:33.240 Ham Talk Live. Hamfest schedule coming up. They're 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:36.279 still recovering a little bit from Hamvention 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:41.000 but up in the UP Newbury, Michigan on June 1st 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.060 and then June 16th the Father's Day Fest in Monroe, 00:04:44.060 --> 00:04:47.740 Michigan and then July 6th Oak Creek, Wisconsin 00:04:47.740 --> 00:04:52.000 But you can visit them anywhere anytime at PL 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:58.800 -259 .com Denny Johnson KD5DLJ is the host of 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:03.560 the Digicom Cafe, a global multi -mode communications 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:07.779 buffet that caters to your digital and spiritual 00:05:07.779 --> 00:05:10.680 appetites located at the intersection of faith 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:14.100 and technology. All are welcome with or without 00:05:14.100 --> 00:05:17.920 a particular faith or even a radio. The Digicom 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:22.360 Cafe links several different voiceover IP radio 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:26.500 formats and technologies together and separately 00:05:26.500 --> 00:05:30.860 offers Zillow channels, Discord chat, and podcasts. 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:34.560 And Denny facilitates a new digital voice net 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.920 for the Christian Amateur Radio Fellowship, resides 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:41.360 in the Ozarks in Northwest Arkansas, and his 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:45.220 Radio on the Rocks podcast, which goes along 00:05:45.220 --> 00:05:51.000 with the Digicom Cafe, is his... Latest venture 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:54.860 and it's building the hobby as he says one story 00:05:54.860 --> 00:05:59.240 at a time where he interviews various hams about 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:03.639 All kinds of things and interviewed yours truly 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:09.779 on April 16th. So Danny welcome to the show Well, 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.740 thanks Neil, this is nice to be able to be interviewed 00:06:12.740 --> 00:06:16.339 instead of interview Yeah, you get a chance to 00:06:16.339 --> 00:06:19.620 be on the other side Yeah, I sure appreciate 00:06:19.620 --> 00:06:21.819 that. I sure loved interviewing you and hearing 00:06:21.819 --> 00:06:25.199 your story. You're one of the Most interesting 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.259 people I've had in terms of becoming a ham at 00:06:28.259 --> 00:06:31.759 the ripe old age of five and you lost that record 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:38.860 Yeah, it's not even a record anymore But yeah, 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:44.220 it is it is I keep wondering if maybe since advanced 00:06:44.220 --> 00:06:49.709 class went away if maybe I could maybe hold the 00:06:49.709 --> 00:06:52.269 record for advanced but that's kind of cheating 00:06:52.269 --> 00:06:55.350 because it because it's no longer a an option 00:06:55.350 --> 00:06:59.930 but oh who knows but we had a lot of fun on there 00:06:59.930 --> 00:07:03.250 and in fact we did the interview over Zello which 00:07:03.250 --> 00:07:06.029 is something that that I've heard about a little 00:07:06.029 --> 00:07:09.100 bit but that was my first time on on Zello. So 00:07:09.100 --> 00:07:10.720 we're going to talk about all these different 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:13.920 technologies because really there's a lot going 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:16.220 on here. So we're going to try to kind of work 00:07:16.220 --> 00:07:18.899 through this a little bit. So first let's just 00:07:18.899 --> 00:07:21.920 talk about the Digicom Cafe and where the idea 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:25.759 for all of this stuff came from. All right well 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:28.019 thanks Neil. Well I've been a hamper over 50 00:07:28.019 --> 00:07:30.540 years. I didn't get mine at five years old. I 00:07:30.540 --> 00:07:35.149 was 17 in high school. And I've loved the hobby 00:07:35.149 --> 00:07:38.089 ever since. But as you know, technology keeps 00:07:38.089 --> 00:07:42.649 marching forward. We've gone from tube radios 00:07:42.649 --> 00:07:46.670 to transistor radios to software -defined radios 00:07:46.670 --> 00:07:50.910 and Internet VoIP technologies that is just exploding. 00:07:51.769 --> 00:07:55.569 And about a year ago, in playing with all these 00:07:55.569 --> 00:08:00.009 different tools, I decided that the time has 00:08:00.009 --> 00:08:03.230 come to try and reach a new generation. with 00:08:03.230 --> 00:08:05.509 what they have in common, and that's their cell 00:08:05.509 --> 00:08:08.509 phone. I was a little frustrated and disappointed, 00:08:08.569 --> 00:08:12.470 I think disappointed, with how hams have not 00:08:12.470 --> 00:08:14.449 really been actively reaching out to the younger 00:08:14.449 --> 00:08:17.449 generation, not making any real efforts to be 00:08:17.449 --> 00:08:20.449 a little creative in their thinking. And so I 00:08:20.449 --> 00:08:22.810 thought, I'm gonna start with Zillow. That seems 00:08:22.810 --> 00:08:26.370 to be a very popular VoIP channel, VoIP network 00:08:26.370 --> 00:08:30.560 I should say, on smartphones. And many people 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.580 have heard about it as a result of the hurricanes 00:08:33.580 --> 00:08:37.960 down in Texas, Louisiana. We've got the Cajun 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.679 Navy that came to light. We're just a bunch of 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:45.419 old buddies fishing together. Decided to use 00:08:45.419 --> 00:08:48.840 their cell phones with Zello as their technology 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.000 of communication to help people. And so they 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.419 went about in their boats rescuing people from 00:08:54.419 --> 00:08:57.000 rooftops and whatnot. And that really brought 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:00.299 a lot of attention to Zello. as probably one 00:09:00.299 --> 00:09:03.159 of our most popular platforms in our network. 00:09:04.340 --> 00:09:07.559 My initial thought was, how can we get young 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.440 people involved using their smartphone? As you 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.480 know, there's a lot of at -risk kids out there 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.179 that are getting involved in a lot of things 00:09:15.179 --> 00:09:17.559 that are dangerous. And I have to say, Zello 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:21.700 is pretty dangerous too, unsupervised. It's wide 00:09:21.700 --> 00:09:23.899 open. It's like a wild west out there. There 00:09:23.899 --> 00:09:27.100 are predators. There are people with false profiles 00:09:27.100 --> 00:09:30.399 that can lure people into their little traps, 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:32.379 and we hear some of those stories on the news. 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:36.200 But I thought, what could we find positive for 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:39.200 young people to do? And so I started what I call 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.240 the Northwest Arkansas Skywarn Save a Life Initiative. 00:09:43.980 --> 00:09:46.340 My thought, and you'd appreciate this as a teacher, 00:09:47.460 --> 00:09:52.259 was to somehow get instructors in school to teach 00:09:52.259 --> 00:09:55.360 skywarn weather as part of their science curriculum. 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.659 And with that, they could use the tests provided 00:09:59.659 --> 00:10:02.960 by some of these educational platforms on the 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:06.019 internet and have them test out and be certified 00:10:06.019 --> 00:10:09.279 as a Skywarn spotter. And that way they could 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:13.340 use their smartphone as an unlicensed individual, 00:10:13.860 --> 00:10:18.759 join a Zello channel to use their skills to spot, 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.059 report weather as it comes through their area. 00:10:21.389 --> 00:10:24.129 and eventually, of course, rub shoulders with 00:10:24.129 --> 00:10:26.809 licensed amateur radio operators who are also 00:10:26.809 --> 00:10:29.889 on those platforms and get Elmered and mentored 00:10:29.889 --> 00:10:32.649 into the hobby. And hopefully they'd get beyond 00:10:32.649 --> 00:10:37.730 their smartphone and go into maybe VHF or UHF 00:10:37.730 --> 00:10:41.830 or eventually even do HF. And so I tried to get 00:10:41.830 --> 00:10:44.250 something like that started here. I did a presentation 00:10:44.250 --> 00:10:47.210 at our local library here in Harrison, Arkansas, 00:10:47.769 --> 00:10:52.360 and they're a young man. 13 years old. Blaze 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.879 is his name. He and his father came and he was 00:10:55.879 --> 00:11:01.600 my poster boy. Within three days he got the test 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:04.740 done, got certified as a Skywarn spotter and 00:11:04.740 --> 00:11:07.039 two or three days later he got his tech license 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.960 as an amateur radio operator and he's now running 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.259 the Skywarn Little Rock Zello channel that I 00:11:13.259 --> 00:11:16.860 put up and invited him into and now I've turned 00:11:16.860 --> 00:11:19.179 it over to him completely. and he's doing a great 00:11:19.179 --> 00:11:22.340 job building that up. So this whole concept of 00:11:22.340 --> 00:11:26.980 using the internet as our mode of propagation 00:11:26.980 --> 00:11:30.940 and starting with Zello, very quickly I started 00:11:30.940 --> 00:11:33.899 a net called The Breakfast Club on Saturday mornings. 00:11:34.460 --> 00:11:37.960 I was very surprised to have a young man join 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.299 us and invite me to become a member or listen 00:11:41.299 --> 00:11:44.500 to at least the Guild's IRN, International Radio 00:11:44.500 --> 00:11:48.720 Network. which I did, and things just happened 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:50.659 pretty quickly from there. I joined the guild. 00:11:51.620 --> 00:11:55.820 We had a Digicom Cafe channel that we created 00:11:55.820 --> 00:11:58.940 there, and this whole concept of the Digicom 00:11:58.940 --> 00:12:03.220 Cafe was just my paradigm for my hobby, a way 00:12:03.220 --> 00:12:06.740 of making it maybe somewhat more interesting 00:12:06.740 --> 00:12:10.799 to a non -tech person. We all go to cafes. We 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.039 know what it's like to sit down, grab a menu, 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.679 order a meal. enjoyed the fellowship. And so 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:19.679 I thought, what a neat paradigm for amateur radio. 00:12:20.179 --> 00:12:23.240 And so that's something I came up with early 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:26.659 one morning in my sleep and ran with it. I had 00:12:26.659 --> 00:12:29.860 a good friend of mine, Charles NX5E. He and I 00:12:29.860 --> 00:12:33.080 were kind of commiserating together about the 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:36.440 disappointing efforts of the ham radio community 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:39.360 to reach out to young people. And he kind of 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:42.379 supported me in this net idea. And the rest is 00:12:42.379 --> 00:12:45.299 history. as a result of my relationships with 00:12:45.299 --> 00:12:48.779 many of these folks in the guild. And buying 00:12:48.779 --> 00:12:52.080 into this concept of the Digicom Cafe is kind 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.460 of my digital playground. That's what I've always 00:12:54.460 --> 00:12:57.860 said it is. It's just my digital playground where 00:12:57.860 --> 00:13:01.340 I hang out with my ham friends and partners to 00:13:01.340 --> 00:13:04.600 help build a hobby. And so more and more people 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:07.019 started getting involved. We started experimenting 00:13:07.019 --> 00:13:11.220 with bridging and started out bridging from Zello 00:13:11.220 --> 00:13:14.360 to All -Star. We have an all -star, several all 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.620 -star nodes. That's kind of the heart of our 00:13:16.620 --> 00:13:20.539 multi -mode system. And from there, we added 00:13:20.539 --> 00:13:24.120 some of this new software transcoding tools that 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:28.259 have been provided. We've got DMR and D -Star, 00:13:28.539 --> 00:13:31.320 Fusion. I've got several partners I want to mention. 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:36.039 We've got, my first one was Sammy, KD2KMP. He's 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:39.799 providing our bridge to D -Star. and he also 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:42.919 has a bridge to TeamSpeak, which is the international 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:46.639 radio network in his New York link channel. We've 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:51.159 got John, N1PCE out there in New Hampshire, and 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.860 he is providing our Zello link also through his 00:13:54.860 --> 00:13:57.340 All -Star node. We're all kind of connected at 00:13:57.340 --> 00:14:01.480 the hip at All -Star. And so we've got four different 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:04.379 Zello channels. I call them Digicom Cafe 1, 2, 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:07.639 and 3. which are strictly VoIP, open to hams 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.100 and non -hams alike, where we can enjoy conversation 00:14:11.100 --> 00:14:14.279 about digital technology or just life in general. 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:18.379 And then we have the digicomcafe -link Zello 00:14:18.379 --> 00:14:21.259 channel, which bridges to, now you're ready. 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.299 You might want to write these down or just go 00:14:24.299 --> 00:14:26.700 to our website to learn about them, but we have 00:14:26.700 --> 00:14:31.840 All -Star, DMR, D -Star, Fusion, Hamshack Hotline, 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:37.000 Peanut, Zello, TeamSpeak. And we also have some 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:40.279 side things going on with Orion. Orion Labs has 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:43.320 a great platform for smartphones that even shows 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:47.240 APRS location on a map. We've got our Discord, 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:51.980 I call it the DCS, Discord comm server, and several 00:14:51.980 --> 00:14:54.299 other things that we're doing to kind of help 00:14:54.299 --> 00:14:57.919 bring it all together. So you have a radio? Great. 00:14:58.019 --> 00:15:00.659 What radio is it? Join us. You don't have a radio? 00:15:01.019 --> 00:15:04.210 Not a problem. Use your phone. join us on Zello 00:15:04.210 --> 00:15:09.210 and building a wide fellowship, but with some 00:15:09.210 --> 00:15:13.750 unique qualities. I say we want to maintain a 00:15:13.750 --> 00:15:17.269 culture of kindness. As a follower of Christ, 00:15:17.690 --> 00:15:20.970 I really believe in having a place that is safe, 00:15:21.409 --> 00:15:23.850 a place where people are valued, people where 00:15:23.850 --> 00:15:26.529 people respect each other, as I say it, where 00:15:26.529 --> 00:15:30.690 we listen, acknowledge, and share. And it takes 00:15:30.690 --> 00:15:33.549 all three of those to have a successful conversation. 00:15:34.029 --> 00:15:37.389 And so we stress that. We're not an organization. 00:15:37.710 --> 00:15:40.889 We're not a club. It's not a democratic organization. 00:15:41.769 --> 00:15:43.990 I'm head of it. I make the decisions because 00:15:43.990 --> 00:15:46.789 it's my digital playground and nothing more. 00:15:47.110 --> 00:15:49.769 But I'm partnering with people who like that 00:15:49.769 --> 00:15:52.169 vision, like the idea of having a culture of 00:15:52.169 --> 00:15:55.370 kindness and who want to provide any resources 00:15:55.370 --> 00:15:58.049 they have to help us out. And so I'm thrilled 00:15:58.049 --> 00:16:00.919 to be partnering with the Guild Hamshack Hotline 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:04.200 is another great VoIP service. We are promotional 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.779 partners of one another. The Guild, as I'm a 00:16:06.779 --> 00:16:10.059 member of them, they are now bridging to us on 00:16:10.059 --> 00:16:13.179 the All -Star node with their multi -mode channel 00:16:13.179 --> 00:16:18.019 on TeamSpeak. We hear their nets, they hear our 00:16:18.019 --> 00:16:22.139 nets, and we have a broad worldwide global fellowship 00:16:22.139 --> 00:16:25.639 that is just rich. Good, good people and very 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:29.179 excited about it. Now I know what some people 00:16:29.179 --> 00:16:34.500 are gonna say That there's there's IR LP. There's 00:16:34.500 --> 00:16:37.419 echo link. There's you know, all these different 00:16:37.419 --> 00:16:40.179 digital VoIP technologies and there and I know 00:16:40.179 --> 00:16:43.419 what they're gonna say they're gonna say But 00:16:43.419 --> 00:16:47.620 wait a minute That's not radio and and they're 00:16:47.620 --> 00:16:50.860 gonna they're gonna say that and and and to some 00:16:50.860 --> 00:16:55.659 extent. Yes You know, I see both sides of that 00:16:55.610 --> 00:16:59.009 It depends on internet and internet can go down 00:16:59.009 --> 00:17:02.450 and and so, you know there there is you know 00:17:02.450 --> 00:17:08.829 pros and cons to both sides but where In all 00:17:08.829 --> 00:17:14.420 of this is the line drawn between this isn't 00:17:14.420 --> 00:17:18.119 ham radio and this is ham radio and how do you 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:20.980 make sure that people are you know all of this 00:17:20.980 --> 00:17:25.279 is legal and and according to the rules and everything 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:29.000 like Echo link and then people want to get into 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:33.299 the whole echo link isn't you know is or isn't 00:17:33.299 --> 00:17:36.740 Not going to get into that. But but what do you 00:17:36.740 --> 00:17:41.420 do and where is that line between? the radio 00:17:41.420 --> 00:17:46.640 and totally just VoIP, but it happens to be radio 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:51.799 people. Well, if I could use another illustration 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:56.220 that I heard from Chris, G7DDN over in the UK. 00:17:56.339 --> 00:17:59.559 They've been really big on network radios, which 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:03.539 is an internet -based VoIP concept for communication, 00:18:04.339 --> 00:18:07.579 based mainly in Zello. There's a group of channels 00:18:07.579 --> 00:18:10.099 there, multiple channels, called Network Radio. 00:18:10.460 --> 00:18:12.799 And of course, like everything, it starts to 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:15.619 splinter and you've got knockoffs of it and all 00:18:15.619 --> 00:18:18.660 kinds of channels being created by hams and non 00:18:18.660 --> 00:18:21.299 -hams alike, but with the same general concept. 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:24.779 And that is, what is ham radio about? It's about 00:18:24.779 --> 00:18:28.000 communication. It's about talking to people. 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:31.240 It's about learning about other cultures around 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:35.599 the world. It's about building friendships. And 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.710 we've got to start somewhere. Why not? start 00:18:38.710 --> 00:18:41.009 with where people are at and like I say my focus 00:18:41.009 --> 00:18:44.430 is reaching young people with the one thing they 00:18:44.430 --> 00:18:46.789 all have in common and that's their smartphone 00:18:46.789 --> 00:18:50.910 and from there then it's our job as hands to 00:18:50.910 --> 00:18:55.009 get out of our little our own secluded little 00:18:55.009 --> 00:18:58.789 silos and reach out and start being friends with 00:18:58.789 --> 00:19:01.250 these young people and showing them all the different 00:19:01.250 --> 00:19:04.730 things about technology and just kind of show 00:19:04.730 --> 00:19:08.180 them a little bit how that ties in. with regular 00:19:08.180 --> 00:19:11.839 RF that we recognize as amateur radio. But, you 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:13.980 know, there's some great arguments going on out 00:19:13.980 --> 00:19:17.420 there about this whole issue of is it real radio? 00:19:17.859 --> 00:19:19.519 And this great illustration I was going to use 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.000 of Chris, G7DDN, is talking about people who 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:26.579 want to get into rock climbing. Rock climbing 00:19:26.579 --> 00:19:29.119 has been pretty big in our family. Our son and 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:32.839 our grandson, they're avid rock climbers. And 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:36.359 they didn't start out climbing maybe rocks necessarily. 00:19:36.670 --> 00:19:39.289 but they go to some of these stores that have 00:19:39.289 --> 00:19:43.250 climbing walls. It's just a wall with some notches 00:19:43.250 --> 00:19:46.250 and things hanging on the wall where people can 00:19:46.250 --> 00:19:48.690 grab a hold of and put a foot on and they can 00:19:48.690 --> 00:19:52.549 wear a safety harness to get used to trying to 00:19:52.549 --> 00:19:55.130 find their way around this wall, find a foothold, 00:19:55.230 --> 00:19:57.930 find a handhold. Is that real rock climbing? 00:19:58.349 --> 00:20:01.789 No. It's in preparation for it though. They can 00:20:01.789 --> 00:20:03.910 build their arm strength, their leg strength, 00:20:04.349 --> 00:20:07.609 get the feel of what that's like. And then they 00:20:07.609 --> 00:20:09.690 go out and tackle the mountain. So I thought 00:20:09.690 --> 00:20:11.690 that was a great comparison to what we're trying 00:20:11.690 --> 00:20:15.410 to do here using VoIP technology to introduce 00:20:15.410 --> 00:20:19.390 people to our very broad -ranged hobby of amateur 00:20:19.390 --> 00:20:24.029 radio. One thing comes to mind that I have done 00:20:24.029 --> 00:20:28.450 with young people and, you know, I have a school 00:20:28.450 --> 00:20:31.970 club and we have some kids that go ahead and 00:20:31.970 --> 00:20:34.009 get their licenses and we have some that don't. 00:20:34.910 --> 00:20:38.630 You know, we've got the control operator in place 00:20:38.630 --> 00:20:41.990 and that kind of thing. And one of the training 00:20:41.990 --> 00:20:45.650 exercises that we did was learning how to do 00:20:45.650 --> 00:20:49.230 message handling in case of an emergency. And 00:20:49.230 --> 00:20:53.390 so we used the standard radiogram forms and everything. 00:20:53.430 --> 00:20:57.349 And I had various teachers throughout the school 00:20:57.349 --> 00:21:00.630 that were staying late after school for one reason 00:21:00.630 --> 00:21:03.500 or another. and they had messages and they had 00:21:03.500 --> 00:21:07.039 to go find that person and then deliver that 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:10.740 message and so the ones that did have a license 00:21:10.740 --> 00:21:14.220 they called in on on their handheld on you know 00:21:14.220 --> 00:21:18.740 two meters and simplex and and i took all of 00:21:18.740 --> 00:21:22.400 the messages that way but we had a lot of students 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.490 who didn't have their license yet so gave them 00:21:26.490 --> 00:21:29.869 an FRS radio and so they called it in on an FRS 00:21:29.869 --> 00:21:32.390 radio and so I would take you know in one hand 00:21:32.390 --> 00:21:36.430 I'd have an HT on two meters on in the other 00:21:36.430 --> 00:21:39.410 hand I had you know an FRS radio now there wasn't 00:21:39.410 --> 00:21:44.109 a link between those other than me but that way 00:21:44.109 --> 00:21:48.130 it provided a way for them to learn how to do 00:21:48.130 --> 00:21:52.589 some of those protocol things and learn how to 00:21:52.589 --> 00:21:57.599 pass messages and everything without being licensed 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.359 yet because they weren't on amateur frequencies. 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.599 And so I see some parallels there with that and 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:07.680 what you're trying to do with the cell phone. 00:22:08.660 --> 00:22:11.579 Right. And what we do is provide structure, just 00:22:11.579 --> 00:22:13.839 like you do in your classroom. And you're teaching 00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:16.440 your kids all about the hobby and providing ways 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:18.720 for them to get involved. What they need is structure. 00:22:19.660 --> 00:22:21.680 Our whole culture is falling apart because we've 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:24.190 lost our structure. We can't even relate to one 00:22:24.190 --> 00:22:26.289 another. We can't civilly communicate with one 00:22:26.289 --> 00:22:29.210 another without arguing, debating, and fighting, 00:22:29.450 --> 00:22:32.609 and name -calling. Our whole politics is like 00:22:32.609 --> 00:22:35.009 that. So what we're trying to do in a Digicom 00:22:35.009 --> 00:22:38.569 Cafe, and I hope across amateur radio as a whole, 00:22:39.089 --> 00:22:41.430 and unfortunately it's not really so because 00:22:41.430 --> 00:22:44.369 we've devolved even in our relationships as older 00:22:44.369 --> 00:22:47.230 hams. If you listen across some of the HF bands, 00:22:48.170 --> 00:22:50.089 it's really amazing some of these people even 00:22:50.089 --> 00:22:52.619 have a license. But what we want to do here in 00:22:52.619 --> 00:22:56.720 the CAFE and this CAFE concept is let's get together, 00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:59.980 let's learn the structure of communication, let's 00:22:59.980 --> 00:23:02.980 learn how to listen respectfully, learn how to 00:23:02.980 --> 00:23:05.019 share our own thoughts in a creative way without 00:23:05.019 --> 00:23:08.160 passing judgment, but being able to be comfortable 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:10.720 with who we are and accept others where they 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:13.740 are, whether they're licensed or not, and then 00:23:13.740 --> 00:23:16.920 acknowledge those things in one another and build 00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:20.970 a safe community. And the reason I sell ham radio 00:23:20.970 --> 00:23:25.230 as a safe place for kids is that we're a known 00:23:25.230 --> 00:23:28.609 community. Most people on Zello that aren't licensed 00:23:28.609 --> 00:23:32.670 that have their groups of whatever kind of genre 00:23:32.670 --> 00:23:34.970 you want to find, it's out there, believe me. 00:23:35.150 --> 00:23:38.529 Some of it's pretty sick. These people can create 00:23:38.529 --> 00:23:42.849 their profiles totally fake, non -verified, no 00:23:42.849 --> 00:23:45.089 idea who they are, what their phone number is, 00:23:45.130 --> 00:23:48.230 where they live, email address. But as a ham, 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:51.420 all you have to do is go to QRZ .com, look them 00:23:51.420 --> 00:23:54.200 up. You know where they live. You can see pictures 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:56.700 of them often. And so for young people to come 00:23:56.700 --> 00:24:00.099 into our world, which is a known community, is 00:24:00.099 --> 00:24:02.900 the safest place for them to be, I think. And 00:24:02.900 --> 00:24:05.359 I'm not saying that all hams are angels. We know 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:08.480 that they're not. But I think what's available, 00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:11.519 I think the amateur community is the safest place 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:14.500 to be. And I think we hold in our hands the tools 00:24:14.500 --> 00:24:18.660 to help mold and shape and attract this young 00:24:18.660 --> 00:24:22.319 generation into this culture to teach them how 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.839 to communicate civilly, how to be of service 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:28.119 to the community, how to learn and grow in technology 00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:32.039 in useful ways. And I'm just excited as I'll 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.200 get out, but I can already sleep sometimes. I 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:37.140 wake up with all kinds of ideas that I'm trying 00:24:37.140 --> 00:24:40.920 to put into play here, not only just this Digicom 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:44.359 Cafe, but my podcast and my Cafe on Ice Stream, 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:49.289 which we have. a 24 -7 ice cast radio stream, 00:24:49.549 --> 00:24:52.710 and I'm partnering with BransonRadio .com here 00:24:52.710 --> 00:24:55.890 in our region here in the Ozarks. We've got an 00:24:55.890 --> 00:24:58.769 arrangement with them. I've got my Cafe on Ice 00:24:58.769 --> 00:25:01.269 advertisement on their website, and they allow 00:25:01.269 --> 00:25:03.970 me to stream their music in the background in 00:25:03.970 --> 00:25:06.430 this Cafe on Ice, which is basically like a virtual 00:25:06.430 --> 00:25:08.950 cafe. You come in, you hear the ambient sounds 00:25:08.950 --> 00:25:11.349 of the cafe, you hear the dishes clattering, 00:25:11.490 --> 00:25:14.140 you hear the murmur of conversation. but it's 00:25:14.140 --> 00:25:17.720 also a live stream for our conversations on our 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.380 multi -mode system and others. We've also brought 00:25:20.380 --> 00:25:24.839 in the Ham Radio Hub or the Guild QSO as a member 00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:27.000 of the Guild, want to help promote what they're 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.200 doing. We've got Skywarn Little Rocks so when 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:32.579 we have severe weather sometimes I'll dump that 00:25:32.579 --> 00:25:35.299 into the live stream so people can hear what's 00:25:35.299 --> 00:25:37.700 going on here weather -wise in Northwest Arkansas 00:25:37.700 --> 00:25:39.980 in the region. when tornadoes come. They can 00:25:39.980 --> 00:25:42.500 hear the live banter and the reports of what 00:25:42.500 --> 00:25:44.900 people are seeing or what I'm seeing on radar. 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.119 But it's a way for people to come chill out rather 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:50.579 than listen to a dead channel with no conversation. 00:25:51.019 --> 00:25:56.640 They can at least listen to the radio, the jukebox 00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.099 in the background if you will, a Branson radio 00:25:59.099 --> 00:26:02.240 playing. Plus I'm able to market what we have 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:05.559 here in this Midwest part of our country. It's 00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:09.599 a very conservative uh, Christian oriented, patriotic, 00:26:09.940 --> 00:26:13.339 uh, God loving, police loving, uh, they, they 00:26:13.339 --> 00:26:15.960 high five the, the Patriots of our country that 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.039 are serving. These are the kinds of things we 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:20.319 want to instill in our young people. And so I 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:22.960 think we've got a real magical group going on 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.519 here. And, uh, like I said, I'm just very excited 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:29.259 about it as are many others. Well, we're, we're 00:26:29.259 --> 00:26:31.900 overdue for a break here, but real fast, let's, 00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.480 let's talk about the podcast a little bit radio 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:39.400 on the rocks. It's. It's again an off the radio 00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:43.299 kind of thing, but it talks about ham radio, 00:26:43.660 --> 00:26:47.539 kind of like this show actually, except we do 00:26:47.539 --> 00:26:50.559 get out on broadcast radio, but we're not on 00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.539 ham radio. So tell us a little bit about the 00:26:53.539 --> 00:26:55.799 podcast and what you're trying to accomplish 00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.859 with that. Well, part of that came from a little 00:27:00.859 --> 00:27:03.640 frustration in running nets and trying to get 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:06.019 people involved. Especially when you're in a 00:27:06.019 --> 00:27:09.720 group that's a global group, the time differences 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:12.380 make it very difficult to find a time that suits 00:27:12.380 --> 00:27:15.740 everybody. And one of the things I really wanted 00:27:15.740 --> 00:27:20.599 to do in my breakfast club was to bring in a 00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.440 guest to help bring some interesting topic to 00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:26.740 the group. They can share their experience of 00:27:26.740 --> 00:27:29.440 how they got into amateur radio and talk about 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.619 a particular passion they have, whether they're 00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:35.579 a manufacturer of hardware, like a hotspot. We've 00:27:35.579 --> 00:27:38.319 had many guests that have produced a lot of those 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:43.940 things, like Bob Greenberg of R -Finder and Rude 00:27:43.940 --> 00:27:48.079 and Goose, they call them, over there in the 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:50.559 Netherlands. They've come out with some hotspot 00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.839 equipment, the new radio that they've got, people 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:57.559 with software. Andrew is over there in the Netherlands 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:01.180 also and has produced some great software. for 00:28:01.180 --> 00:28:04.119 the hot spots and several others. But anyway, 00:28:04.579 --> 00:28:07.480 I thought it would be great to have people have 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.140 an opportunity to tell their story that would 00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:13.279 be available to everyone else at their leisure, 00:28:13.579 --> 00:28:16.920 on demand. And so I got this idea of doing this 00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.079 little podcast, very short little podcast, simply, 00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:22.880 you know, what's your story? Tell me how you 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.279 got into amateur radio. Who introduced you? What 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.359 experiences did you have beforehand? Many of 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.430 which started in CB, of course. And then what 00:28:30.430 --> 00:28:33.269 is it you're particularly passionate about now? 00:28:33.750 --> 00:28:36.170 What mode of amateur radio do you spend most 00:28:36.170 --> 00:28:39.390 of your time with? Things like that. And so I 00:28:39.390 --> 00:28:41.170 started throwing them up right and left here 00:28:41.170 --> 00:28:45.029 and found a real warm reception to that. People 00:28:45.029 --> 00:28:48.490 like that idea of hearing stories. And some people 00:28:48.490 --> 00:28:50.750 will say, well, I don't have a story. Let me 00:28:50.750 --> 00:28:53.690 tell you, everybody has a story. And that's been 00:28:53.690 --> 00:28:57.609 kind of my... My mission statement for even my 00:28:57.609 --> 00:29:01.210 business, DennyJ .com, for the websites and as 00:29:01.210 --> 00:29:04.329 a marketing guy, let me help you tell your story. 00:29:04.950 --> 00:29:07.009 And there's a lot of ways I can do that with 00:29:07.009 --> 00:29:09.950 all the tools we have digitally. And like you 00:29:09.950 --> 00:29:13.089 used Zello, that's one of my tools. I like to 00:29:13.089 --> 00:29:16.809 use that for doing my recording and things. And 00:29:16.809 --> 00:29:19.190 so that's all I'm doing is I'm using what skills 00:29:19.190 --> 00:29:21.150 I've developed over the years in my retirement 00:29:21.150 --> 00:29:25.160 years to create some platforms. where we can 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:28.720 build the hobby, bring inspiration to people 00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:32.500 who are living passionately to people on demand 00:29:32.500 --> 00:29:35.240 when they're free to listen to it. And so I'm 00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.759 kind of abandoning nets for now. It takes a lot 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.599 of work to do that and takes a lot of time. I'd 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.220 rather do this at my leisure when I happen to 00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:46.359 meet somebody. Hey, let's sit down on the cafe. 00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:48.799 Tell me your story. And I want to thank you for 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.700 telling me yours. All right. Well, you're very 00:29:52.700 --> 00:29:55.440 welcome. 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Eastern Time right here at HamTalkLive 00:32:35.450 --> 00:32:38.430 .com and be sure to check us out on Facebook, 00:32:38.549 --> 00:32:41.230 Twitter and Instagram and it's time for your 00:32:41.230 --> 00:32:43.769 calls now so if you have a question for Denny 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:50.220 give us a call at 812 -650 -9556 again the number 00:32:50.220 --> 00:32:56.759 812 -650 -9556 or you can tweet us at HamTalkLive 00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:00.259 and if you're listening to us on WTWW or on the 00:33:00.259 --> 00:33:02.500 podcast edition you won't be able to reach us 00:33:02.500 --> 00:33:06.220 live because it's Thursday night so you won't 00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:09.380 be able to get us but we're gonna talk here a 00:33:09.380 --> 00:33:12.529 little bit more with Denny and I do have One 00:33:12.529 --> 00:33:18.529 tweet that came in from Brett wy7bg And he says 00:33:18.529 --> 00:33:20.990 spiritual needs so this person has established 00:33:20.990 --> 00:33:24.650 a religious enclave within the ham radio community 00:33:24.650 --> 00:33:30.009 so Denny You want to address that? Religious 00:33:30.009 --> 00:33:35.049 enclave that sounds like a cult Basically it's 00:33:35.049 --> 00:33:38.750 I'm just bringing to the hobby who I am I've 00:33:38.750 --> 00:33:42.240 been a Christian most of my life and I developed 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.839 my own mission statement actually years ago, 00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:46.940 and it's simply this, bringing the kingdom to 00:33:46.940 --> 00:33:51.759 where I live, work, and play. And I'm done working, 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.440 and I live here in the Ozarks, which is a very 00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.720 faith -centered kind of culture we have here, 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.200 and I play a lot with radio. Just ask my wife 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.579 and family. But anyway, it's who I am, and it's 00:34:03.579 --> 00:34:07.759 really from that that I get my values, and one 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.780 of those values is kindness, I guess, right at 00:34:09.780 --> 00:34:12.289 the top of the list. And I don't see a lot of 00:34:12.289 --> 00:34:16.469 kindness in amateur radio these days, or in politics, 00:34:16.510 --> 00:34:19.070 or in life, and it's sad. I want to make a difference. 00:34:19.730 --> 00:34:23.869 And so, as a follower of Christ, I'm not a perfect 00:34:23.869 --> 00:34:27.110 man, but I want to love and respect everyone 00:34:27.110 --> 00:34:30.090 who comes into our group. And that's why I state 00:34:30.090 --> 00:34:33.670 in our promotional materials that all are welcome, 00:34:34.329 --> 00:34:37.250 radio or no radio, license or no license, faith 00:34:37.250 --> 00:34:43.760 or no faith. And we don't endorse any one particular 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:48.159 faith viewpoint here. I see us as, right now, 00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.860 a fellowship of Christians and Jews. And we have 00:34:50.860 --> 00:34:53.500 many wonderful Jewish friends that are free to 00:34:53.500 --> 00:34:55.380 express themselves and join in the fellowship. 00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:57.559 Sammy is a dear brother from another mother, 00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:01.139 I tell him. I just love him. He's providing our 00:35:01.139 --> 00:35:05.460 cross -link, our bridge, to D -Star and to his 00:35:05.460 --> 00:35:09.920 channel, the New York Link. on the IRN. Just 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.340 about everybody that I've been partnering with 00:35:12.340 --> 00:35:15.179 are people of faith of one persuasion or another 00:35:15.179 --> 00:35:17.980 that makes them who they are and brings kindness 00:35:17.980 --> 00:35:21.119 to the table. So, no, we're not endorsing any 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.059 denomination. I don't belong to any particular 00:35:24.059 --> 00:35:28.780 denomination. I just want to make sure that I 00:35:28.780 --> 00:35:32.099 don't segregate my life into, oh, just family 00:35:32.099 --> 00:35:37.559 or work or radio or faith. It's all part of who 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.159 I am and if people are uncomfortable with who 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:43.679 I am, if I tell you I'm concerned about you and 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.300 your need, I want to pray for you and keep you 00:35:46.300 --> 00:35:48.619 in my thoughts and prayers when you're suffering 00:35:48.619 --> 00:35:51.699 and have an accident or lose a loved one. We 00:35:51.699 --> 00:35:53.960 have many friends in our group that are struggling 00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.679 with illness. One recently just lost his mother. 00:35:57.420 --> 00:36:00.380 I think he finds encouragement to know that he's 00:36:00.380 --> 00:36:02.860 got people of faith that are praying for him 00:36:02.860 --> 00:36:06.099 and supporting him. This kind of stuff goes on 00:36:06.099 --> 00:36:09.400 all the time. Plus, we have a net on Saturday 00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:11.699 afternoons, and you're familiar with this, Neil, 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.639 the CARF Group Christian Amrich Radio Fellowship. 00:36:15.820 --> 00:36:20.320 We have a friend, Lloyd Colston, KC5FM, who leads 00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.820 this net at 2 o 'clock p .m. Central Time. It's 00:36:23.820 --> 00:36:26.900 just a simple check -in. He'll have a simple 00:36:26.900 --> 00:36:30.440 question, share some prayer concerns, and someone 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.710 will close in prayer. And if that's offensive 00:36:32.710 --> 00:36:34.489 to people, you don't have to hang around and 00:36:34.489 --> 00:36:37.030 listen. It's kind of like on TV. People always 00:36:37.030 --> 00:36:39.289 make a big deal of, well, you know, if you don't 00:36:39.289 --> 00:36:42.070 like that trash on TV, just turn the dial. Well, 00:36:42.150 --> 00:36:44.130 it's the same thing here. If people are uncomfortable, 00:36:44.190 --> 00:36:47.250 and we sure do not want to make anybody uncomfortable, 00:36:47.690 --> 00:36:50.190 we don't preach at anybody, we don't try and 00:36:50.190 --> 00:36:52.769 argue or debate. That's one of the things I absolutely 00:36:52.769 --> 00:36:55.829 despise and will not tolerate here. And that 00:36:55.829 --> 00:36:59.590 is no arguing, no drama, no debate. We're just 00:36:59.590 --> 00:37:02.690 going to listen, acknowledge, and share. So even 00:37:02.690 --> 00:37:06.269 if a Muslim came in and wanted to share his viewpoints, 00:37:06.429 --> 00:37:09.030 they are more than welcome as long as they respectfully 00:37:09.030 --> 00:37:12.610 listen to others and we can have a mutual respect 00:37:12.610 --> 00:37:15.190 for one another and our cultures and our backgrounds. 00:37:15.230 --> 00:37:19.489 And as a global group of people fellowshipping 00:37:19.489 --> 00:37:22.989 together, it's rich to be able to understand 00:37:22.989 --> 00:37:25.530 where each one is coming from in our own national 00:37:25.530 --> 00:37:27.809 cultures. And that's the richness of amateur 00:37:27.809 --> 00:37:32.349 radio, isn't it? Yeah, the international goodwill 00:37:32.349 --> 00:37:36.329 and I've you know, I've been a member of car 00:37:36.329 --> 00:37:42.150 since You know the late 70s And there are other 00:37:42.150 --> 00:37:45.690 groups out there that carf is one in particular 00:37:45.690 --> 00:37:48.989 and you know I always sign off with 75 at the 00:37:48.989 --> 00:37:51.730 end of the show which you know, which is God 00:37:51.730 --> 00:37:57.610 bless you and you or yours and you know it so 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.400 an option for people who you know want to get 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:08.760 involved with that to do so and you're providing 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:15.300 that in a VoIP format in addition to the HF format 00:38:15.300 --> 00:38:20.920 that CARF has done for many many years. Yep and 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.920 we enjoy that and we're not always available 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.960 to participate in those nets. We had another 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.119 gentleman came up recently who would like to 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.159 start a Bible study on one of the Voigt channels, 00:38:31.340 --> 00:38:33.820 and I gave him permission to do so. But with 00:38:33.820 --> 00:38:36.760 this caveat, I don't want to get into doctrinal 00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.000 discussions and arguments that will not be tolerated. 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:42.119 There's a lot of groups out there that have those 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:43.900 kind of Bible studies. Bible Study Fellowship, 00:38:43.940 --> 00:38:46.719 I think, is one. And people from many different 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:49.059 denominations can come together and just study. 00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.500 And we have a good resource that I promote on 00:38:53.500 --> 00:39:01.579 my website. By the way, digicommcafe .com has 00:39:01.579 --> 00:39:05.539 a menu list of all of our resources of how you 00:39:05.539 --> 00:39:08.280 can join our conversations on the multimode network 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.219 or on just some of these standalone platforms 00:39:11.219 --> 00:39:17.539 like Orion. But we have a group called, oh, my 00:39:17.539 --> 00:39:19.139 mind just went blank. But anyway, there's a link 00:39:19.139 --> 00:39:23.320 there in the menu for the Bible study material 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.710 that is not denominationally centered. It's just 00:39:26.710 --> 00:39:30.710 a very wonderful, it uses video, kind of cartoon 00:39:30.710 --> 00:39:36.309 video, great posters and things and podcasts 00:39:36.309 --> 00:39:39.369 to help people understand the scriptures, but 00:39:39.369 --> 00:39:41.250 not associated with any particular group, which 00:39:41.250 --> 00:39:43.789 I love. But I'm going to do what I can to promote 00:39:43.789 --> 00:39:45.909 the things I'm passionate about. And like I say, 00:39:46.269 --> 00:39:49.050 this isn't a democratic group. We don't vote 00:39:49.050 --> 00:39:51.429 on these things. I make the decisions and if 00:39:51.429 --> 00:39:53.480 people don't like it, You know, that's just the 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.659 way it is. But that way I can alleviate all the 00:39:56.659 --> 00:39:59.599 drama. If people don't like it, that's fine. 00:39:59.659 --> 00:40:01.840 I respect that. There's plenty of places to go. 00:40:02.300 --> 00:40:05.059 But I'm going to do my best to provide a platform 00:40:05.059 --> 00:40:07.579 that is safe for young people, that builds the 00:40:07.579 --> 00:40:10.619 hobby, and builds my promotional partners like 00:40:10.619 --> 00:40:14.780 the Guild, Hamshack Hotline, TGIF, which is a 00:40:14.780 --> 00:40:17.820 DMR network, things like that. And I'm not here 00:40:17.820 --> 00:40:20.599 to protect my little world. I'm here to promote. 00:40:21.049 --> 00:40:23.949 others. And one of my favorite slogans that has 00:40:23.949 --> 00:40:26.030 been a theme of my life for a long time comes 00:40:26.030 --> 00:40:28.590 from Zig Ziglar. He says, you can get what you 00:40:28.590 --> 00:40:31.170 want when you help others get what they want. 00:40:31.730 --> 00:40:34.730 And so that's part of what I want to do is help 00:40:34.730 --> 00:40:37.750 tell other stories or help them tell their story. 00:40:37.969 --> 00:40:40.250 And I can do that with all these platforms. By 00:40:40.250 --> 00:40:44.070 the way, I also have two skills on the Amazon 00:40:44.070 --> 00:40:48.010 system. The X, I can't say the name or she'll 00:40:48.010 --> 00:40:52.019 wake up here, but One is called ham buffet if 00:40:52.019 --> 00:40:54.699 you go on Amazon and do a search for ham buffet 00:40:54.699 --> 00:40:59.059 and Enable it or radio on the rocks either one 00:40:59.059 --> 00:41:01.659 of those you can just use the power of voice 00:41:01.659 --> 00:41:07.219 to access our information All right, and if you 00:41:07.219 --> 00:41:09.340 have a question give us a call we're just about 00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:12.219 to finish up here, but give us call eight one 00:41:12.219 --> 00:41:16.309 two six five zero nine five five six or you can 00:41:16.309 --> 00:41:19.590 tweet us at ham talk live we're going to finish 00:41:19.590 --> 00:41:22.269 up here in just a couple of minutes so if you 00:41:22.269 --> 00:41:24.769 want to give us a call this is the time to do 00:41:24.769 --> 00:41:28.630 so eight one two six five zero nine five five 00:41:28.630 --> 00:41:31.710 six now what one of the things when i went to 00:41:31.710 --> 00:41:36.010 your website and saw the the big list of all 00:41:36.010 --> 00:41:41.690 these different platforms How do you keep up 00:41:41.690 --> 00:41:44.309 with these different platforms because you've 00:41:44.309 --> 00:41:48.230 got a ton of them I Don't have to do it myself. 00:41:48.230 --> 00:41:52.230 Thankfully. I have a great Great family and we 00:41:52.230 --> 00:41:54.889 call ourselves a family here We have many moderators 00:41:54.889 --> 00:41:57.489 in our channels and they all do it voluntarily 00:41:57.489 --> 00:42:02.110 I don't have to hog time down to spend three 00:42:02.110 --> 00:42:04.030 four hours a day to do it I just say whenever 00:42:04.030 --> 00:42:06.829 you're around you can moderate if you hear somebody 00:42:07.070 --> 00:42:09.250 arguing and fighting, kindly just let them know 00:42:09.250 --> 00:42:11.670 it's not tolerated here. And if they create trouble, 00:42:12.150 --> 00:42:14.670 that's a nice thing about VoIP. You can turn 00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:17.210 the switch off and they don't bother you. You 00:42:17.210 --> 00:42:20.849 can't do that on normal RF modes of communication. 00:42:21.309 --> 00:42:23.730 If you've got someone that wants to be a problem, 00:42:24.449 --> 00:42:26.869 you just have to ignore it and hope it goes away. 00:42:27.349 --> 00:42:30.429 But with these VoIP technologies, it's a simple 00:42:30.429 --> 00:42:32.949 matter of pulling a switch and saying, you're 00:42:32.949 --> 00:42:35.820 done, you're gone, bye -bye. So we can control 00:42:35.820 --> 00:42:41.219 it and that's what we like. Well, there's a ton 00:42:41.219 --> 00:42:43.519 of those technologies and if you're interested 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.260 in that, definitely go to the website and they're 00:42:47.260 --> 00:42:51.719 all listed there. So why don't we finish up here 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.900 again with where they can find this if they're 00:42:55.900 --> 00:43:00.820 interested in getting on one of these digital 00:43:00.820 --> 00:43:05.079 channels or the linked network or both, where 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.739 they can find all that information. Thank you. 00:43:08.860 --> 00:43:13.179 The website digicomcafe .com is our main website. 00:43:13.659 --> 00:43:16.219 From there you will find links to all of our 00:43:16.219 --> 00:43:20.619 other different platforms including another website 00:43:20.619 --> 00:43:25.730 for those that are on Facebook. digicomcafe .mnformightynetworks 00:43:25.730 --> 00:43:31.230 .co. Digicomcafe .mnco. That's a nice little 00:43:31.230 --> 00:43:33.889 community portal, much like Facebook, but without 00:43:33.889 --> 00:43:37.730 the ads and without people listening over your 00:43:37.730 --> 00:43:40.130 shoulder. I know we have a lot of people that 00:43:40.130 --> 00:43:42.389 refuse to be on Facebook. We also have a Facebook 00:43:42.389 --> 00:43:45.429 group, Digicomcafe. I try to keep people up to 00:43:45.429 --> 00:43:47.570 date with things that we're doing and would love 00:43:47.570 --> 00:43:50.239 to see more people participate. I've always opened 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.139 it up for anyone who wants to post information 00:43:53.139 --> 00:43:56.039 about their AmpFest or Nets or whatever else 00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:58.360 I can say. I'm here to help promote everyone 00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.559 else too and help make this a very rich hobby. 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.920 But everything can be found at digicomcafe .com 00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:10.320 including the links to the audio from the streaming 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:13.980 radio Cafe on Ice and all the podcasts which 00:44:13.980 --> 00:44:17.820 are there on one of the links which are housed 00:44:17.820 --> 00:44:21.699 at SoundCloud. and shared over the multitude 00:44:21.699 --> 00:44:25.679 of other podcast services like iTunes and many 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.579 others, Stitcher. So you can listen to them on 00:44:29.579 --> 00:44:34.320 your phone, on your Echo Dot, on your website, 00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.079 whatever you want to do. You just enjoy it all 00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:41.000 to your leisure. All right. Well, Danny, thank 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.659 you so much. We're out of time, but thank you 00:44:43.659 --> 00:44:46.260 so much for coming on and telling your story. 00:44:46.650 --> 00:44:50.449 uh... about the digit com cafe to everyone and 00:44:50.449 --> 00:44:54.030 uh... i'll be talking with you later sounds good 00:44:54.030 --> 00:44:56.570 if i could issue one challenge to your listeners 00:44:56.570 --> 00:45:01.949 what are you doing to bring kindness and bring 00:45:01.949 --> 00:45:04.650 something of value to your community to your 00:45:04.650 --> 00:45:08.289 world to your hobby it's not beyond any one of 00:45:08.289 --> 00:45:12.190 us to jump in and be creative and think of ways 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.980 To bring good in this world there's too much 00:45:15.980 --> 00:45:19.440 division too much fighting and we need to we 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.000 need to take the lead as amateur radio operators. 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.360 And learn how to communicate civilly and bring 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.820 this world together so I issue that challenge. 00:45:29.420 --> 00:45:31.619 Thank you very much Denny we appreciate you being 00:45:31.619 --> 00:45:36.639 here. Let is a wrap for this week's edition of 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.119 ham talk live. I'd like to thank my guest, Denny 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:43.980 Johnson, KD5DLJ, and everyone out there in cyberspace 00:45:43.980 --> 00:45:46.659 for listening and typing in and invite you back 00:45:46.659 --> 00:45:49.679 next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time when 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:54.400 Joe Moll, KZeroOV will be here to talk about 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.739 getting started with amateur radio direction 00:45:57.739 --> 00:46:00.460 finding. And for a list of all of our upcoming 00:46:00.460 --> 00:46:04.000 guests, visit HamTalkLive .com. And if you like 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.989 HamTalk Live, please consider leaving us a review 00:46:06.989 --> 00:46:09.210 on iTunes or wherever you listen, that helps 00:46:09.210 --> 00:46:12.550 others find us faster. So for now, this is Neil 00:46:12.550 --> 00:46:17.150 Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may the 00:46:17.150 --> 00:46:37.010 good DX be yours. You never once mentioned your 00:46:37.010 --> 00:46:43.010 weather at all And I didn't mention mine We talked 00:46:43.010 --> 00:46:47.349 and talked for hours and hours I completely forgot 00:46:47.349 --> 00:46:52.250 you're a ham I don't know your power or the height 00:46:52.250 --> 00:46:56.969 of your tower Frankly, I don't give a damn So 00:46:56.969 --> 00:47:02.150 73s, to you and your family I'll be seeing you 00:47:02.150 --> 00:47:09.090 further down To you and your family Obviously 00:47:09.090 --> 00:47:09.869 in your bourbon