WEBVTT 00:00:11.110 --> 00:00:13.910 Thanks for tuning in. HamTalk Live will be on 00:00:13.910 --> 00:00:31.879 the air shortly. Please stand by. This episode 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:35.460 of Ham Talk Live is brought to you by Tower Electronics. 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:40.159 For connectors, cables, and more, call 920 -435 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:46.899 -2973 or visit pl -259 .com. And by ICOM, heard 00:00:46.899 --> 00:00:52.119 it, worked it, logged it. Visit www .icomamerica 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:55.859 .com slash amateur for more information about 00:00:55.859 --> 00:01:07.239 ICOM radios. Here we go, welcome to Hamtop Life 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:11.700 Call in, let's talk, Neil's your guy Hamtop Life, 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:31.319 here we go on Hamtop Good evening, everyone. 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:36.019 This is HamTalk Live episode number 170. It's 00:01:36.019 --> 00:01:41.060 our annual field day Q &A 2019 recorded live 00:01:41.060 --> 00:01:46.439 on Thursday, June 20th 2019. I'm your host Neil 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:50.739 Rapp WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning in to another 00:01:50.739 --> 00:01:53.280 episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight we're joined 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:59.849 by Bart Jahnke W9JJ and Paul Bork N1SFE. and 00:01:59.849 --> 00:02:02.909 they are from ARRL and we'll be talking about 00:02:02.909 --> 00:02:05.230 field day tonight. We'll take as many questions 00:02:05.230 --> 00:02:09.009 as we can and we will take your calls live. We'll 00:02:09.009 --> 00:02:11.509 talk a little bit and then we'll take your calls 00:02:11.509 --> 00:02:13.710 live and we're already getting some tweets so 00:02:13.710 --> 00:02:16.590 if you have something you want to go ahead and 00:02:16.590 --> 00:02:20.280 tweet it to us. We'll check that out here in 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.500 a little bit. 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And don't forget to be ham -active 00:05:07.699 --> 00:05:11.019 in June. Participate in both the June VHF contest 00:05:11.019 --> 00:05:13.660 as well as field day. Submit your logs and see 00:05:13.660 --> 00:05:17.399 how you did in the pileup. A flashlight is a 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:20.420 case for holding dead batteries. Now, here's 00:05:20.420 --> 00:05:36.170 Neil Rapp with more HamTalk Live. Welcome back 00:05:36.170 --> 00:05:39.410 to HamTalk Live. It's field day Q &A tonight 00:05:39.410 --> 00:05:42.730 and thanks to iCom America for helping bring 00:05:42.730 --> 00:05:46.029 you the show each and every week. We're here 00:05:46.029 --> 00:05:48.629 Thursday nights at 9 p .m. Eastern Time right 00:05:48.629 --> 00:05:52.350 here at HamTalk Live. Our guest this evening 00:05:52.350 --> 00:05:57.529 Bart Yonkey W9JJ is the ARRL radio sport and 00:05:57.529 --> 00:06:00.639 field services manager Bart is served in that 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.439 role since March and was the contest branch manager 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:07.839 from January 2016 until his recent promotion. 00:06:08.459 --> 00:06:11.459 But it's no stranger to ARRL headquarters. Bart 00:06:11.459 --> 00:06:14.860 started working at ARRL in 1985 as the editor 00:06:14.860 --> 00:06:19.160 of the ARRL repeater directory. And from 1989 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:23.560 to 2005, He was the volunteer exam coordinator 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:27.040 manager, and he took a few years hiatus, spending 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.860 10 years working in the customer service, manufacturing, 00:06:30.060 --> 00:06:33.019 sales, and support, and information technology 00:06:33.019 --> 00:06:36.379 fields in the Midwest and on the East Coast, 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.920 and now he is back. And also joining us tonight, 00:06:40.379 --> 00:06:44.300 ARRL contest program manager. manager Paul Bork 00:06:44.300 --> 00:06:47.379 in one SFE. His appointment was just announced 00:06:47.379 --> 00:06:50.459 earlier this week. Paul's been licensed since 00:06:50.459 --> 00:06:55.740 1994 and like me he listened to distant AM broadcast 00:06:55.740 --> 00:07:00.360 stations. as a young person and later developed 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.800 a career involving various aspects of broadcasting. 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:06.519 He started at a broadcast station at the University 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:09.180 of Hartford where the station's general manager 00:07:09.180 --> 00:07:13.720 John Ramsey W1JNR pushed him to get his license. 00:07:14.259 --> 00:07:16.660 He grew up in Newington and wanted the opportunity 00:07:16.660 --> 00:07:19.360 to give back to the hobby and he wants to find 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.319 ways to get newer hams into contesting. and to 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:24.319 spell the idea that you need tons of equipment 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:28.220 to participate. So Bart, welcome back, and Paul, 00:07:28.339 --> 00:07:33.399 welcome to HamTalk Live. Thanks for having us, 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:38.240 Neil. Well, I really enjoy these shows because 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:44.180 we get into some very unusual questions sometimes 00:07:44.180 --> 00:07:47.569 on these shows and kind of... kinda stretches 00:07:47.569 --> 00:07:50.769 the brain a little bit to try to figure out uh... 00:07:50.769 --> 00:07:52.949 just how all these things fit into the rules 00:07:52.949 --> 00:07:55.889 for field day so we'll be uh... talking about 00:07:55.889 --> 00:07:59.149 that but first of all Bart why don't you introduce 00:07:59.149 --> 00:08:02.829 uh... Paul to everyone and and paul i think you've 00:08:02.829 --> 00:08:05.350 been on the week for are on the job for a week 00:08:05.350 --> 00:08:09.069 now is that right uh... yeah it's uh... the end 00:08:09.069 --> 00:08:13.050 of my second week alright well Bart why don't 00:08:13.050 --> 00:08:18.079 you go ahead and uh... Thanks, Neil. We're all 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:23.079 doubling. We need a curtsy cone. There's a push 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.139 to talk when you need it. Exactly. All right. 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.560 Thanks, Mark. Go ahead. Thanks for having both 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.079 of us on, Neil, and it's great to be able to 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:34.480 join you and have Paul on for his first opportunity 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:38.080 as the contest program manager. It's been great 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.419 here over the last almost two weeks with him, 00:08:40.419 --> 00:08:43.340 and he's come up to speed really fast, brought 00:08:43.340 --> 00:08:47.399 a lot of knowledge. in administering programs 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:50.320 like this to ARRL. So it's been working out good. 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.080 He's quick study. And he's been involved in contesting 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:59.059 for a couple of decades. Maybe not the aggressive 00:08:59.059 --> 00:09:02.399 knockdown drag out guy, but with a sort of ever 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:05.179 present in the various aspects. So it's good 00:09:05.179 --> 00:09:08.419 to have him aboard. And we've been doing some 00:09:08.419 --> 00:09:10.320 great progress over the last couple of weeks. 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.710 Paul, anything you want to... Say about the about 00:09:16.710 --> 00:09:19.389 the new job and say to the folks listening here 00:09:19.389 --> 00:09:26.230 tonight well, I I feel like Working at the ARL 00:09:26.230 --> 00:09:28.870 is like coming home now for two reasons one is 00:09:28.870 --> 00:09:30.590 you know as you've mentioned before I grew up 00:09:30.590 --> 00:09:35.629 And you know so being back in Newington's always 00:09:35.629 --> 00:09:39.210 kind of nice But I feel I feel like I've definitely 00:09:39.210 --> 00:09:42.769 found me a place where I'm surrounded by people 00:09:42.769 --> 00:09:46.190 that share the same passion in amateur radio 00:09:46.190 --> 00:09:53.429 that I do. Yeah it's a neat place to work and 00:09:53.429 --> 00:09:58.230 it has its challenges and you've been gone for 00:09:58.230 --> 00:10:03.490 two weeks so you may not have seen them all yet 00:10:03.490 --> 00:10:08.070 but I think it's great that you're a hometown 00:10:08.070 --> 00:10:13.840 kid and you're ready to go for this and make 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:19.639 it even better. So I wish you all the best success 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:22.559 there. And I look forward to being back out there. 00:10:22.820 --> 00:10:25.580 It's been 10 years and I get to come back out 00:10:25.580 --> 00:10:28.840 this summer for Teachers Institute. So I'll be 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:32.320 headed out that way here before too many weeks 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:35.580 go by. Well, we want to give everybody a chance 00:10:35.580 --> 00:10:39.320 to ask those field day questions, but we probably 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:44.549 should address the obvious first. So, let's go 00:10:44.549 --> 00:10:48.049 over any changes that happened. I was downloading, 00:10:49.490 --> 00:10:53.629 I was joking around yesterday that I was working 00:10:53.629 --> 00:11:01.190 SO3L, Single Op 3 Laptops. I had all the laptops 00:11:01.190 --> 00:11:03.830 going at once trying to get all the software 00:11:03.830 --> 00:11:06.809 updated and all the forms downloaded and everything. 00:11:06.990 --> 00:11:09.629 I noticed that the latest revision to the The 00:11:09.629 --> 00:11:12.529 field day packet was, I think, five days ago 00:11:12.529 --> 00:11:16.250 or so. So bring us up to date on any changes. 00:11:16.350 --> 00:11:19.250 I know there's not a lot, but what are the changes 00:11:19.250 --> 00:11:24.149 that have happened since last year? Paul, you 00:11:24.149 --> 00:11:29.470 want to take a stab at it? Well, from what I 00:11:29.470 --> 00:11:35.429 can see here, the rules are pretty much straightforward 00:11:35.429 --> 00:11:38.850 and the same. There are changes. Certain you 00:11:38.850 --> 00:11:40.450 know a lot of people are asking me questions 00:11:40.450 --> 00:11:44.149 about FTA things about like about that. I mean 00:11:44.149 --> 00:11:48.490 this will be do have a Lot of a lot of people 00:11:48.490 --> 00:11:50.549 asking questions. You know my phone's been ringing 00:11:50.549 --> 00:11:55.309 pretty much all week Would you know the main 00:11:55.309 --> 00:11:57.590 question I've been seeing is people asking about 00:11:57.590 --> 00:12:00.769 is this mode? Acceptable was that mode acceptable 00:12:00.769 --> 00:12:05.549 and the answer is yes pretty much But as far 00:12:05.549 --> 00:12:08.820 as rules go I don't see any major changes. I 00:12:08.820 --> 00:12:10.419 don't know if you want to address that in more 00:12:10.419 --> 00:12:14.840 detail, Bart. So the two things that I would 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.799 say address Neil's observation of the page being 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:24.580 updated and the more prevalent thing is, first 00:12:24.580 --> 00:12:29.039 of all, the biggest item being that FT8 is supported 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:35.460 now in the field day exchange as part of WSJTX. 00:12:36.590 --> 00:12:40.610 So it by and large did not, wasn't in a position 00:12:40.610 --> 00:12:43.909 to be supported last year. The exchange was an 00:12:43.909 --> 00:12:46.269 afterthought at best. It could only be done through, 00:12:46.470 --> 00:12:49.990 I believe it was TX6, the 13 karat free character 00:12:49.990 --> 00:12:53.190 field. This year is actually built into the software. 00:12:53.309 --> 00:12:56.409 If you chose contest mode and then field day 00:12:56.409 --> 00:12:59.509 as an option, you can put in your class and your 00:12:59.509 --> 00:13:02.370 section and the system is set up and ready to 00:13:02.370 --> 00:13:06.779 go as a field day exchange. protocol. So that's 00:13:06.779 --> 00:13:10.039 a wondrous thing. There's going to be a lot of 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:12.360 activity this year. I think it's going to bring 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:15.799 a new level of excitement for maybe the newcomers 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:20.019 who are more digitally oriented. The other thing 00:13:20.019 --> 00:13:22.940 people might say is, you know, what about FT4? 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:27.759 And as you probably read in the media, FT4 is 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:32.120 essentially disabled at the present time. I mean, 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:35.200 people can still use it, but Basically, the current 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.740 release is set in such a way that it wouldn't 00:13:37.740 --> 00:13:40.519 be able to be used for field day. And the idea 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:43.840 was that, hey, we're just now having the opportunity 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.879 to use FTA, let's not confuse things with FT4 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.159 this field day. But I'm sure next year that that 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:53.840 will be a primary mode for people and they'll 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.539 probably find that as the go -to mode for digital 00:13:56.539 --> 00:14:00.200 communications in a year. The other thing was 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:04.799 that we've been working on the web app for uploading 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:09.679 field day results in recent previous years. That 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:12.480 was basically a summary form that was populated 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:14.580 and then you had to figure out how to get us 00:14:14.580 --> 00:14:17.769 your bonus documentation, et cetera. The new 00:14:17.769 --> 00:14:21.110 summary, excuse me, the new web app is designed 00:14:21.110 --> 00:14:23.509 around not only having the summary information, 00:14:23.909 --> 00:14:26.230 but for every bonus you select that requires 00:14:26.230 --> 00:14:29.409 documentation, it has a bit bucket, a link that 00:14:29.409 --> 00:14:33.009 says attach your file. And so in essence, it's 00:14:33.009 --> 00:14:35.409 a one stop shop for everything you need to do 00:14:35.409 --> 00:14:38.250 for your field day submission. If you're not 00:14:38.250 --> 00:14:41.549 quite ready with your bonus documents, you can 00:14:41.549 --> 00:14:43.809 come back into your record at a later time and 00:14:43.809 --> 00:14:47.299 add them. And it'll actually point out to you 00:14:47.299 --> 00:14:49.559 that based on what you've presently supplied, 00:14:50.139 --> 00:14:53.379 your estimated score is X amount. And when you 00:14:53.379 --> 00:14:55.320 actually finish your bonus documents, if you 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:58.419 hadn't done so initially, it would indicate the 00:14:58.419 --> 00:15:00.220 additional points that would be available to 00:15:00.220 --> 00:15:02.759 you once you supply those documents. The idea 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:07.320 being that when you have almost 3 ,000 groups 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:11.950 participating as you can... almost imagine over 00:15:11.950 --> 00:15:15.990 the decades, the paper records and pieces of 00:15:15.990 --> 00:15:20.029 electronic combination submissions is a significant 00:15:20.029 --> 00:15:23.009 amount of work. And now that the technology exists 00:15:23.009 --> 00:15:25.730 and people have the ability to take photos of 00:15:25.730 --> 00:15:29.090 their supporting documents or scan them or to 00:15:29.090 --> 00:15:33.490 PDF certain things. take screenshots, any and 00:15:33.490 --> 00:15:36.389 all of those documents can be simply uploaded 00:15:36.389 --> 00:15:39.350 as an attachment. So a lot of the updates, Neil, 00:15:39.389 --> 00:15:41.049 that you were seeing, and if you look again, 00:15:41.090 --> 00:15:43.110 you'll see a couple more updated files today, 00:15:43.570 --> 00:15:49.250 is all focused on that web submission tool. Okay, 00:15:49.470 --> 00:15:53.070 so no big rule changes here, but yeah, FT8 was 00:15:53.070 --> 00:15:56.570 kind of interesting because I know here and I 00:15:56.570 --> 00:16:01.330 know this was the case in a lot of places. We 00:16:01.330 --> 00:16:06.210 had an FT8 station basically and we logged over 00:16:06.210 --> 00:16:10.230 200 contacts and not a one of them had a field 00:16:10.230 --> 00:16:13.049 day exchange in it so they didn't count. And 00:16:13.049 --> 00:16:16.830 so that's the software set up you still got to 00:16:16.830 --> 00:16:19.169 remember to go in there and do that but you got 00:16:19.169 --> 00:16:22.690 to make sure that that exchange is there but 00:16:23.230 --> 00:16:27.610 I think that will be a big hit this year. It's 00:16:27.610 --> 00:16:31.629 going to be a phenomenal deal. Yeah, and we were 00:16:31.629 --> 00:16:36.169 lucky enough to pull off a win. We won our class 00:16:36.169 --> 00:16:47.399 last year. We are the winners of Class 13A. Of 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:51.480 course, we were the only entry in class 13A, 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:54.259 but we did it. We pulled it off. So we're not 00:16:54.259 --> 00:16:58.340 going to do that this year, but. I was going 00:16:58.340 --> 00:17:00.679 to say, if you would have told us that in advance, 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.360 we could have done a data analysis to see how 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:09.970 steep the competition was for you. Yeah. So yeah, 00:17:10.349 --> 00:17:13.450 we're going to do the normal thing this year, 00:17:13.630 --> 00:17:18.769 but we ran 13A and we had a lot of fun. And that's 00:17:18.769 --> 00:17:20.210 one of the things that I know you're going to 00:17:20.210 --> 00:17:24.470 talk about is do what's fun. And so we'll talk 00:17:24.470 --> 00:17:27.150 about that. Well, let's talk a little bit about 00:17:27.150 --> 00:17:30.589 last year. How did last year go? Do you have 00:17:30.589 --> 00:17:33.849 some numbers maybe that you can share about how 00:17:33.849 --> 00:17:38.910 last year went? Sure. Go ahead, Paul. All right, 00:17:38.930 --> 00:17:43.829 well last year we had over 1 .18 million contacts 00:17:43.829 --> 00:17:48.609 logged during field day. And so that was pretty 00:17:48.609 --> 00:17:50.069 impressive. I think it was down a little bit 00:17:50.069 --> 00:17:53.750 from the year before. The total of more than 00:17:53.750 --> 00:17:58.410 35 ,000 participants. So that was a good event. 00:17:58.589 --> 00:18:01.509 I think we had some good activity and some good 00:18:01.509 --> 00:18:04.990 excitement. And from reports a lot of people, 00:18:05.089 --> 00:18:06.970 everyone was having fun. So that's what was really 00:18:06.970 --> 00:18:11.970 important. And I don't know if you want to add 00:18:11.970 --> 00:18:17.170 anything there, Bart. Well, we kind of look at 00:18:17.170 --> 00:18:20.309 the overall participation. So with just over 00:18:20.309 --> 00:18:24.170 a million contacts and really what amounts to 00:18:24.170 --> 00:18:27.630 3 ,000 groups reporting their activity, like 00:18:27.630 --> 00:18:31.140 any more of a competition event. you know, that 00:18:31.140 --> 00:18:34.119 3 ,000 doesn't represent 100 % of the activity. 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.960 It's hard to measure for field day, but, you 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:40.779 know, it's probably be a reasonable expectation 00:18:40.779 --> 00:18:43.980 to suggest that that's maybe anywhere from 60 00:18:43.980 --> 00:18:46.880 to 75 % of the real numbers and, you know, the 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:49.420 true numbers and the number of overall participants 00:18:49.420 --> 00:18:54.000 may be closer to four if not going on 5 ,000. 00:18:54.579 --> 00:18:56.519 Participating call signs, if you will, that could 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:59.769 be groups or individuals. And of course, as people 00:18:59.769 --> 00:19:05.990 saw in the December QST results, the breakdown 00:19:05.990 --> 00:19:13.750 of modes was approximately 45 % in CW and 50 00:19:13.750 --> 00:19:16.890 % in phone and the other 5 % was digital last 00:19:16.890 --> 00:19:20.289 year. I'd expect to see that digital number probably 00:19:20.289 --> 00:19:23.529 matching whatever CW and phone do this year, 00:19:23.930 --> 00:19:27.650 just because it's the nature of the course that 00:19:27.650 --> 00:19:30.069 we're heading down right now. And of course, 00:19:30.069 --> 00:19:32.509 you know, we've got the other categories and 00:19:32.509 --> 00:19:35.170 we can talk a little bit more about them, but 00:19:35.170 --> 00:19:38.210 class A one and two participant groups with over 00:19:38.210 --> 00:19:43.789 1200 entries, class, I'm sorry, class A with, 00:19:43.789 --> 00:19:46.359 I should have read. Clarify that with three or 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:49.420 more participants as a club or non -club portable 00:19:49.420 --> 00:19:52.460 had over 1 ,200 entries a class B with one or 00:19:52.460 --> 00:19:57.799 two person portable had 350 just over 350 we 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:01.720 did have 45 mobile entries over 648 home entries 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.640 running commercial power again another 400 plus 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.180 running a home and emergency power and then finally 00:20:07.180 --> 00:20:15.670 186 or so running an EOC class All right, well 00:20:15.670 --> 00:20:18.789 some good numbers there and we look for those 00:20:18.789 --> 00:20:22.829 to to go up even more now What about the theme 00:20:22.829 --> 00:20:25.289 now last year? We had the the grid chase thing 00:20:25.289 --> 00:20:28.730 going on kind of at the same time What's the 00:20:28.730 --> 00:20:30.930 theme for this year? What are the or what are 00:20:30.930 --> 00:20:35.410 the points of emphasis? Frankly, there is no 00:20:35.410 --> 00:20:38.910 theme this year You know, we talked about maybe 00:20:38.910 --> 00:20:41.349 in just a little bit before the program started 00:20:41.789 --> 00:20:45.630 uh some you know uh maybe more oversight overseeing 00:20:45.630 --> 00:20:48.150 themes and and and the one i've always tried 00:20:48.150 --> 00:20:51.029 to impress upon people is as they're trying to 00:20:51.029 --> 00:20:54.029 develop their strategy for each field day that 00:20:54.029 --> 00:20:56.369 they come up with their own personal themes whether 00:20:56.369 --> 00:21:00.130 it's based on score based on checking all of 00:21:00.130 --> 00:21:03.549 the activity boxes and bonuses uh maybe it's 00:21:03.549 --> 00:21:08.089 social maybe it's um public uh uh information 00:21:08.089 --> 00:21:12.740 exposure uh having a having their own goal of 00:21:12.740 --> 00:21:15.259 maybe this will be the event that has the greatest 00:21:15.259 --> 00:21:19.339 exposure to the public in a public place. Other 00:21:19.339 --> 00:21:22.400 groups will make it all about emergency communications 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.640 and so they will come at 1800 UTC on Saturday 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.240 and not even start setting up until 1800 to prove 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.180 how quickly they can set up. Some have asked 00:21:33.180 --> 00:21:37.400 us well what's tell us about the the number of 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:39.940 hours you can operate well by and large it's 00:21:39.940 --> 00:21:43.259 a 24 -hour event except if you don't begin setting 00:21:43.259 --> 00:21:46.440 up until 1800 on Saturday and if you do you can 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:49.640 actually operate an extra three hours for the 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:52.019 sake of the fact that you didn't set up in advance 00:21:52.019 --> 00:21:55.119 so some people groups will use that as their 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:58.079 theme and and finally when they're all sort of 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:00.619 scratching their heads or just sort of in a quandary 00:22:00.619 --> 00:22:02.759 of, we really don't know what to do. I think 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:08.200 the overall theme always should be, what's the 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:13.920 maximum fun? How do you define fun for your field 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:18.619 day? What makes it the most accountable, memorable, 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:24.440 result -driven for you? I think we kind of touched 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:26.670 on this before the show. Let me know. Number 00:22:26.670 --> 00:22:30.869 one, park safety. Number two, safety. And number 00:22:30.869 --> 00:22:36.970 three, have fun. It got covered up there a little 00:22:36.970 --> 00:22:41.970 bit. Paul, let's do that again. Oh, I'm sorry. 00:22:42.329 --> 00:22:45.529 Were you not hearing me? Yeah, I think we were 00:22:45.529 --> 00:22:49.450 getting some... some muffling from Bart's mic 00:22:49.450 --> 00:22:53.309 here, so. Yeah, gotcha. Well, as I said, so the 00:22:53.309 --> 00:22:55.430 three things I think we touched on this a little 00:22:55.430 --> 00:22:57.730 bit in conversation before the show, but the 00:22:57.730 --> 00:23:01.730 three things we talked about is, number one, 00:23:02.029 --> 00:23:05.190 be safe. The safety, I think, should be the first 00:23:05.190 --> 00:23:08.589 priority. Number two, safety. And number three, 00:23:08.730 --> 00:23:12.210 have fun. Because it really is, it's an operating 00:23:12.210 --> 00:23:15.049 event. It should be fun. for the participants 00:23:15.049 --> 00:23:17.049 and fun for the people that would come in from 00:23:17.049 --> 00:23:19.950 the community you know we want to show people 00:23:19.950 --> 00:23:24.950 that you know what amateur radio is and and how 00:23:24.950 --> 00:23:28.549 it can be fun and what we do one of the biggest 00:23:28.549 --> 00:23:32.710 things i saw or i heard from people when i was 00:23:32.710 --> 00:23:34.630 telling personal friends that i got in a job 00:23:34.630 --> 00:23:38.029 at the arrl nobody knew what amateur radio was 00:23:38.029 --> 00:23:39.690 so i think this is you know this is one of the 00:23:39.690 --> 00:23:43.509 big points that we really need to hit on with 00:23:43.509 --> 00:23:46.309 field day is it's one of one of our times where 00:23:46.309 --> 00:23:48.470 you could really get you know try to get maximum 00:23:48.470 --> 00:23:52.170 exposure to the public about amateur radio and 00:23:52.170 --> 00:23:54.289 what we can do not only about having fun but 00:23:54.289 --> 00:23:57.849 also being there as a resource in times of emergency 00:23:57.849 --> 00:24:02.589 and That we are a communication tool that can 00:24:02.589 --> 00:24:08.279 be used when all else fails Okay, well, I think 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:13.920 that's a great theme is Have your own theme come 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:17.539 up with the way that that works best for you 00:24:17.539 --> 00:24:22.059 and have some fun and be safe so we're going 00:24:22.059 --> 00:24:25.019 to take a break here and we're going to come 00:24:25.019 --> 00:24:28.140 back and Start in on all of these questions. 00:24:28.140 --> 00:24:31.779 So if you have a question Give us a call 812 00:24:31.779 --> 00:24:37.740 -650 -9556 or tweet us at HamTalk Live and I'll 00:24:37.740 --> 00:24:40.400 be back with Bart and Paul right after this word 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:43.539 from Tower Electronics right here on HamTalk 00:24:43.539 --> 00:24:48.240 Live. 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If you have a field 00:26:38.869 --> 00:26:44.890 day question, give us a call at 812 -650 -9556, 00:26:44.910 --> 00:26:48.000 or you can tweet us. at HamTalk Live. Now if 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.940 you're listening to us on WTWW or on the podcast 00:26:51.940 --> 00:26:55.420 edition you won't be able to reach us live since 00:26:55.420 --> 00:26:59.279 we won't be live at that point. But if it's Thursday 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:03.160 night we're on here live so we want to hear from 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:09.420 you. 812 -650 -9556 if I can get my tongue to 00:27:09.420 --> 00:27:14.460 work right tonight. 812 -650 -9556 or tweet us 00:27:14.460 --> 00:27:18.940 and we do have a few tweets coming in here, so 00:27:18.940 --> 00:27:23.500 we will address those. But Paul, first real quickly, 00:27:23.539 --> 00:27:27.220 let's remind everybody about the Field Day Locator. 00:27:28.420 --> 00:27:32.140 OK, so there is a, well, I guess we could call 00:27:32.140 --> 00:27:35.859 it a tool or an app on the ARRL website. And 00:27:35.859 --> 00:27:39.400 that will, those two things. One, as a group 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:43.059 or an individual, you can post your intended 00:27:43.059 --> 00:27:46.750 Field Day activity on the field day locator, 00:27:46.910 --> 00:27:53.910 which is at www .arrl .org slash field hyphen 00:27:53.910 --> 00:27:57.930 day hyphen locator. So if you were to go on to 00:27:57.930 --> 00:28:01.490 there, you can not only add your site if it's 00:28:01.490 --> 00:28:03.710 not on there, you can also look and do a search 00:28:03.710 --> 00:28:07.630 in your geographic area of interest to find field 00:28:07.630 --> 00:28:09.670 day sites that will be in operation near you. 00:28:10.029 --> 00:28:13.470 And as of just a couple minutes ago, we have 00:28:13.470 --> 00:28:17.039 14 hundred and eighty six sites listed right 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.079 now so throughout everywhere for over fourteen 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:23.839 hundred almost fifteen hundred sites as of this 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:28.160 current time okay so make sure you check that 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:30.240 out if you're looking for a field day location 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.359 you can you can find it right there as long as 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:34.980 you've registered and if you haven't registered 00:28:34.980 --> 00:28:39.519 please do so people can find where you are okay 00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:41.740 well let's uh... go over to twitter here we're 00:28:41.740 --> 00:28:44.559 going to take some of these uh... questions that 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.359 came in, and the first one comes from Brett, 00:28:48.700 --> 00:28:54.460 WY7BG, and says that his local club will be operating 00:28:54.460 --> 00:28:59.359 2A and logging field day activities with N1MM, 00:29:00.059 --> 00:29:04.200 and he would like to bring a laptop with WSJTX 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:06.859 and plug it into one of their Kenwood rigs to 00:29:06.859 --> 00:29:13.430 run FT8. How can I merge my log of QSOs with 00:29:13.430 --> 00:29:19.910 theirs? Okay, well the answer is you need to 00:29:19.910 --> 00:29:22.049 do this after field day, so that's the first 00:29:22.049 --> 00:29:24.289 part. Some groups will go through the effort 00:29:24.289 --> 00:29:28.069 of if they're all running N1MM that they would 00:29:28.069 --> 00:29:31.170 actually link all the units together. This isn't 00:29:31.170 --> 00:29:33.269 something that we'd spend a lot of time talking 00:29:33.269 --> 00:29:36.470 about here. but if he wants to drop us an email 00:29:36.470 --> 00:29:40.450 to fdinfo at arl .org tomorrow we can send them 00:29:40.450 --> 00:29:43.789 some hints on either how to link the computers 00:29:43.789 --> 00:29:49.250 or secondly just uh conceptually how to accomplish 00:29:49.250 --> 00:29:51.950 what they want to accomplish to have a final 00:29:51.950 --> 00:29:56.089 um cumulative log of everything that you're doing 00:29:56.089 --> 00:30:01.690 yeah now i had actually answered um Brett earlier 00:30:01.690 --> 00:30:04.269 a little bit with a document that I have found 00:30:04.269 --> 00:30:12.950 on N1MM's documentation and it describes this 00:30:12.950 --> 00:30:17.730 ability that you can actually get those, oh we're 00:30:17.730 --> 00:30:20.470 getting some feedback there, you can actually 00:30:20.470 --> 00:30:22.769 get those two programs to talk to each other 00:30:22.769 --> 00:30:26.769 live so if you want to do the live logging You 00:30:26.769 --> 00:30:30.470 can check the box on WSJTX and you can check 00:30:30.470 --> 00:30:34.789 the box on N1MM. There is a document that shows 00:30:34.789 --> 00:30:37.230 the step -by -step setup. You have to go into 00:30:37.230 --> 00:30:42.609 broadcast and turn that on in N1MM. But they 00:30:42.609 --> 00:30:45.049 will talk back and forth. So if you want to do 00:30:45.049 --> 00:30:48.109 it live, there is a way to do that. I would recommend 00:30:48.109 --> 00:30:51.630 going to N1MM and pull up that document in the 00:30:51.630 --> 00:30:56.099 additional support material section. And it does 00:30:56.099 --> 00:30:58.599 kind of talk you through that. Otherwise, you 00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:02.700 can export your ADIF file and then import the 00:31:02.700 --> 00:31:08.920 ADIF file later on. So that's what Bart was talking 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.119 about. But it sounds like they'll be glad to 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:17.019 lend a hand there as well over email. So Brett 00:31:17.019 --> 00:31:20.460 says he'd kind of like to do the live logging. 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.359 Hopefully, you can set that up with the broadcast 00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.559 over the network and do it that way. Let's see, 00:31:29.779 --> 00:31:34.339 we have a question from EPARS. I believe this 00:31:34.339 --> 00:31:40.740 is, yeah, this is Chris, AA4CB from EPARS, and 00:31:40.740 --> 00:31:44.869 says that they have a gota station set up. uh... 00:31:44.869 --> 00:31:47.670 but they don't want to go to station on h f because 00:31:47.670 --> 00:31:49.730 it will interfere with the two stations that 00:31:49.730 --> 00:31:53.750 are on the other bands so can i have to go to 00:31:53.750 --> 00:31:57.809 station connect to the local wires x repeater 00:31:57.809 --> 00:32:03.470 and make contacts under the go to call sign okay 00:32:03.470 --> 00:32:09.680 uh... so something about it can certainly do 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:11.799 that, but those contacts are not going to count 00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:17.920 towards your totals for two reasons. One, the 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:20.339 communications must leave after your field day 00:32:20.339 --> 00:32:23.259 site by amateur radio RF. So if we're going out 00:32:23.259 --> 00:32:25.619 through the internet, that doesn't really count. 00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:28.380 And secondly, we're using a repeater. So you're 00:32:28.380 --> 00:32:31.640 going to want to be limiting your contacts that 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:35.109 will count towards your totals to simplex -based 00:32:35.109 --> 00:32:37.230 contacts, not anything going through a repeater 00:32:37.230 --> 00:32:39.910 or through the internet. So I pretty much think 00:32:39.910 --> 00:32:43.329 that that kind of answers that right there. Now, 00:32:43.569 --> 00:32:49.369 let me throw this in. I'm not the contest branch 00:32:49.369 --> 00:32:51.869 manager or the radio sport manager, nor do I 00:32:51.869 --> 00:32:55.990 play one on TV. But one of the things that we've 00:32:55.990 --> 00:32:59.029 done in the past at field days I've been to is 00:32:59.230 --> 00:33:02.470 you might do that but you can use that as maybe 00:33:02.470 --> 00:33:05.950 an educational activity so yeah you're not going 00:33:05.950 --> 00:33:09.049 to be able to put that in the log you're not 00:33:09.049 --> 00:33:10.789 going to be able to count those as points because 00:33:10.789 --> 00:33:12.829 you're going through a repeater you're going 00:33:12.829 --> 00:33:15.789 through an internet link either one and in this 00:33:15.789 --> 00:33:20.230 case both but you could have an educational activity 00:33:20.230 --> 00:33:23.730 of how that all works and and that be part of 00:33:23.730 --> 00:33:27.509 it Sure sure that you know and that is that is 00:33:27.509 --> 00:33:31.269 a good point because that's another one of the 00:33:31.269 --> 00:33:33.670 things we wanted you know what field day is all 00:33:33.670 --> 00:33:38.609 about is to show people what amateur radio is 00:33:38.609 --> 00:33:43.150 all about and even get a fellow member of a club 00:33:43.150 --> 00:33:45.829 or a neighboring club interest in a new mode 00:33:45.829 --> 00:33:49.390 of operation or hey look look what we can do 00:33:49.390 --> 00:33:52.710 through wires so it's absolutely you know you 00:33:52.710 --> 00:33:55.319 can certainly do that. It's just those contacts 00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.039 are not going to count towards your totals when 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.359 you're doing the dupe sheets. Now, I want to 00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.779 mention that we don't collect logs for the purposes 00:34:04.779 --> 00:34:09.039 of log review. We do collect dupe sheets and 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:12.539 totals by band and mode. Those are what are submitted 00:34:12.539 --> 00:34:15.619 for the field day paperwork. So we don't necessarily 00:34:15.619 --> 00:34:18.420 need a... detail that we don't need a detailed 00:34:18.420 --> 00:34:21.280 log of every single contact. But just need to 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.119 keep in mind that when you are doing contacts 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.199 through a repeater and you're more than more 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.579 than welcome to have a go to station or even 00:34:28.579 --> 00:34:31.940 a VHF station set up on one of the local repeaters 00:34:31.940 --> 00:34:34.420 for either for talking or whatever you're going 00:34:34.420 --> 00:34:37.380 to use it for, just those can't count towards 00:34:37.380 --> 00:34:40.480 those totals in your logs, in your, not your 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:42.460 log submission, your submission of your field 00:34:42.460 --> 00:34:49.219 day paperwork. Okay, 812 -650 -9556 is the phone 00:34:49.219 --> 00:34:52.219 number and I think we're through all of the tweets. 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.219 So if you have a question give us a call or give 00:34:55.219 --> 00:34:58.699 us a tweet here and we'll check those. We've 00:34:58.699 --> 00:35:01.719 got a few minutes left so we can take some more 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:08.380 questions. 812 -650 -9556. or tweet us at hamtalklive. 00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.619 Now, another thing I noticed on the website was 00:35:12.619 --> 00:35:15.420 that there's some new public service announcements 00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:19.880 for the broadcast stations to kind of advertise 00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:27.619 your local field day. Okay, absolutely, Neil. 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.880 Sorry about that. Absolutely, Neil. Each year 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.480 we refresh those and David Insker and Michelle 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.880 Patenode do a great job on the ARL's end of having 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.260 not only audio, but interactive video, public 00:35:42.260 --> 00:35:46.320 service announcements. We consider those vital 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.639 to provide to the groups and the groups to share 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:53.760 with their local media. Now you mentioned David 00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.260 and Bart, you and I had talked and David wasn't 00:35:57.260 --> 00:35:59.760 able to make it on the program tonight, but he 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:03.980 did have a few notes of things that he wanted 00:36:03.980 --> 00:36:07.389 to kind of make sure everybody knows about so 00:36:07.389 --> 00:36:11.110 can we talk about those for a minute absolutely 00:36:11.110 --> 00:36:13.070 and i'm looking at the same notes he shared with 00:36:13.070 --> 00:36:18.309 both of us so again uh and this this goes beyond 00:36:18.309 --> 00:36:21.050 just field day i think one of the things that 00:36:21.050 --> 00:36:27.190 we find that we are uh uh very uh low on or we 00:36:27.190 --> 00:36:30.610 we are always hurting for and that is good quality 00:36:30.610 --> 00:36:35.369 pictures of activities uh, being, um, conducted, 00:36:35.369 --> 00:36:38.650 uh, using amateur radio, the demonstrating amateur 00:36:38.650 --> 00:36:42.309 radio, whether it's at field day, some sort of 00:36:42.309 --> 00:36:45.869 a local, um, communication support activity, 00:36:46.349 --> 00:36:49.150 um, whether it's at the club station, whether 00:36:49.150 --> 00:36:53.570 it's during a contest, uh, whether it's at a, 00:36:53.570 --> 00:36:57.289 uh, sometimes it'll be, uh, some sort of a post. 00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:02.159 testing activity, sometimes it's a awards activity 00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.000 at a club meeting, club meeting programs. We're 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:10.500 hurting for good quality photos. And the shortcoming 00:37:10.500 --> 00:37:12.619 is that while they're being taken and they're 00:37:12.619 --> 00:37:15.539 out there, they don't often get shared to us. 00:37:16.179 --> 00:37:18.139 And whether it's field day or anywhere else, 00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:21.280 we invite you to share those with ARL. We've 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.199 got a variety of places that you can do that. 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.059 You can certainly send them to contests at arl 00:37:26.059 --> 00:37:30.239 .org. That's plural. as an attachment, be sure 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:35.980 to provide a photo credit as well as a caption. 00:37:36.860 --> 00:37:40.320 And we can't stress enough, certainly in the 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:43.099 environment we have right now where we're continuing 00:37:43.099 --> 00:37:49.679 to try to engage youth, is that in a youth under 00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.679 18, We do have to have a photo released. That 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.519 document is also available. We talk about it 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.099 in the Field Day package, but it's available 00:37:57.099 --> 00:38:00.960 on the ARL website as well. So the first part 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.539 is just if you're taking photos, share them, 00:38:04.699 --> 00:38:07.119 upload them to the ARL Facebook page. Again, 00:38:07.380 --> 00:38:11.219 caption and credit and releases, releases to 00:38:11.219 --> 00:38:14.579 the contest at arl .org link. If you're posting 00:38:14.579 --> 00:38:17.159 photos or videos on social media, please include 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:21.960 the hashtag. pound sign ARRLFD so we can find 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.179 them and make use of them as well. Make sure 00:38:25.179 --> 00:38:26.860 the people are identified. Again, we're getting 00:38:26.860 --> 00:38:31.039 into that caption. And again, parents or guardians 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:37.820 sign a photo release. Those are always important 00:38:37.820 --> 00:38:41.480 and sometimes difficult to track down after the 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:45.869 fact. So if you can get those. On -site as you 00:38:45.869 --> 00:38:48.650 do them that might help too, but you got to have 00:38:48.650 --> 00:38:52.289 those those release forms, but definitely share 00:38:52.289 --> 00:38:54.730 those we'd like to see those and I like to go 00:38:54.730 --> 00:38:59.769 through and and get on Twitter and follow that 00:38:59.769 --> 00:39:02.949 hashtag ARRLFD and kind of see what everybody 00:39:02.949 --> 00:39:08.760 is up to so we're gonna have a lot of fun. Gonna 00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:12.619 get started tomorrow night with some antenna 00:39:12.619 --> 00:39:16.139 supports and then we'll get started on Saturday 00:39:16.139 --> 00:39:21.679 morning. But as I said, SO3L was going on here 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:25.699 trying to get all these computers talking on 00:39:25.699 --> 00:39:30.340 M1MM and get all that running. So we're looking 00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:36.750 forward to a fun time and Hopefully everybody 00:39:36.750 --> 00:39:39.610 out there is too. So if you have a question, 00:39:39.670 --> 00:39:45.010 this is the last call for questions at 812 -650 00:39:45.010 --> 00:39:50.570 -9556 or tweet us at HamTalk Live and we can 00:39:50.570 --> 00:39:54.929 try to squeeze in one more here if we have another 00:39:54.929 --> 00:39:59.210 question out there. Yes, Bart. So to offer a 00:39:59.210 --> 00:40:00.849 couple of other things while you're waiting on 00:40:00.849 --> 00:40:05.300 that last or last couple of questions. To further 00:40:05.300 --> 00:40:08.400 Paul's conversation on RF in and RF out of the 00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.320 site, again, this is all about radio. So we can't 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:17.019 assume during the course of some sort of an emergency, 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:22.159 disaster of some sort, that we're going to have 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:26.179 public communications available to us, the backbones. 00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:30.670 And again, so RF -in and RF -out, we do get questions 00:40:30.670 --> 00:40:33.789 from a variety of participants asking about what 00:40:33.789 --> 00:40:35.909 about D -Star? What about EchoLink? What about 00:40:35.909 --> 00:40:38.309 WinLink? And the answer is the same for all of 00:40:38.309 --> 00:40:42.329 those. Peer -to -peer, RF -in, RF -out, you can 00:40:42.329 --> 00:40:45.090 use those services. Once it leaves the site, 00:40:45.510 --> 00:40:48.070 it's both beyond your control and our control 00:40:48.070 --> 00:40:51.909 to know what technology is being used as sort 00:40:51.909 --> 00:40:55.690 of the middleman. So if you do use EchoLink or 00:40:55.690 --> 00:40:58.880 WinLink, As long as your signal leaves the site 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:02.260 via RF or re -enters the site via RF, those other 00:41:02.260 --> 00:41:05.199 backbones could be engaged, but they cannot be 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.219 directly engaged through a network connection. 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.579 They have to be done through radio. So that was 00:41:10.579 --> 00:41:13.659 one of the primary things I was going to mention 00:41:13.659 --> 00:41:17.679 on RF in and RF out. The other thing is the messaging. 00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:23.880 The SM message bonus and also 10 NTS messages. 00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:27.190 we get a variety of questions on the format. 00:41:27.630 --> 00:41:29.570 And the format is always the same. These are 00:41:29.570 --> 00:41:36.170 the formal style NTS protocol or ICS 213 protocol. 00:41:37.090 --> 00:41:40.510 How you manage them after that, as long as it 00:41:40.510 --> 00:41:43.769 enters or leaves the site via RF, that's entirely 00:41:43.769 --> 00:41:49.510 up to the field day groups. We don't feel it 00:41:49.510 --> 00:41:52.230 obligated at all that you have to deliver the 00:41:52.230 --> 00:41:54.269 message during the field day period. In other 00:41:54.269 --> 00:41:56.590 words, if you send the messages during field 00:41:56.590 --> 00:41:59.170 day, you can count them. It doesn't matter if 00:41:59.170 --> 00:42:02.110 it takes an hour or three days for them to actually 00:42:02.110 --> 00:42:04.989 get delivered, you get credit for them. And of 00:42:04.989 --> 00:42:07.730 course, messages coming in must be received during 00:42:07.730 --> 00:42:11.150 the field day period, or if they are being relayed, 00:42:11.230 --> 00:42:12.969 again, they're being relayed during the field 00:42:12.969 --> 00:42:17.340 day period. But they must enter and exit using 00:42:17.340 --> 00:42:21.760 a standard, if you will, message protocol. This 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:26.539 isn't just, you know, the Indiana University 00:42:26.539 --> 00:42:29.079 field day group says, hi, we know we need all 00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:33.639 the preamble, the precedence, the message, and 00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:39.639 it needs to be in those standard formats. Okay, 00:42:40.139 --> 00:42:44.619 very good. Well, let's see, I think we have another 00:42:44.619 --> 00:42:52.239 question here and This this one I knew this was 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:56.000 gonna happen so here we go if field day is not 00:42:56.000 --> 00:43:02.000 a contest Why is Real -time live score reporting 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.980 encouraged was that a converse? controversial 00:43:05.980 --> 00:43:09.980 decision Is it a mixed message about it being 00:43:09.980 --> 00:43:14.030 a contest or not a contest so? I've actually 00:43:14.030 --> 00:43:16.170 seen this one running around on Twitter a lot 00:43:16.170 --> 00:43:22.989 today. Thoughts on that? Since you've seen it, 00:43:22.989 --> 00:43:26.329 we haven't, that's okay. We haven't talked about 00:43:26.329 --> 00:43:29.690 that at all. We haven't talked about real -time 00:43:29.690 --> 00:43:33.269 scoring. We only talk about submission after 00:43:33.269 --> 00:43:36.409 the fact of the event, and it's driven based 00:43:36.409 --> 00:43:41.210 on groups wanting to describe what they did, 00:43:41.369 --> 00:43:44.329 how well they did, what bonuses they achieved, 00:43:45.170 --> 00:43:48.750 mostly in numbers. But anything after that, including 00:43:48.750 --> 00:43:51.750 what Paul emphasized, which is we don't collect 00:43:51.750 --> 00:43:55.230 logs, we don't want the logs, we do want dupe 00:43:55.230 --> 00:44:00.309 sheets to verify that groups aren't encountering 00:44:00.309 --> 00:44:02.989 duplicate contacts. The idea being, you know, 00:44:02.989 --> 00:44:06.070 you got a site, you got 15 operators, you potentially 00:44:06.070 --> 00:44:08.570 have six operators who sit down at 20 meter phone. 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.599 We want to make sure that operator 2 doesn't 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:14.019 rework many of the stations that operator 1 did, 00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.780 and operator 3 doesn't rework the stations that 00:44:16.780 --> 00:44:20.420 1 and 2 did. So we want to ensure that the end 00:44:20.420 --> 00:44:23.460 result total, not necessarily in live, but the 00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:25.699 end result total doesn't include duplicates. 00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.920 That's insured through a dupe sheet. But frankly, 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.260 if you're running software like N1MM and 3FJP 00:44:32.260 --> 00:44:35.619 or others, It's got dupe indicators during the 00:44:35.619 --> 00:44:38.460 course of it. The best way to manage those is 00:44:38.460 --> 00:44:41.619 if it comes up as a dupe in your hunt and pounce. 00:44:41.739 --> 00:44:43.960 In other words, you're not calling CQ, but you're 00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.599 actually finding stations to work. You see that 00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:48.380 come up when you type the call sign in, don't 00:44:48.380 --> 00:44:53.579 call him. So we will accept a Cabrillo file as 00:44:53.579 --> 00:44:56.400 evidence of live duping, but we're not accepting 00:44:56.400 --> 00:45:00.039 it for the purpose of comparing logs. or analyzing 00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:03.360 logs, it's just telling us that you had a live 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.059 software program ensuring that you weren't incurring 00:45:06.059 --> 00:45:11.039 duplicates. Paul, were you going to say something 00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:15.440 there? I was basically going to touch on a lot 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:17.639 of the same points that Bart touched on. And 00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:23.500 again, we don't, again, I'll express it again. 00:45:24.090 --> 00:45:27.090 an operating of that not a contest consider it 00:45:27.090 --> 00:45:30.329 more of a friendly competition i mean some some 00:45:30.329 --> 00:45:32.889 groups do have that there is there and it's been 00:45:32.889 --> 00:45:35.269 known that i've i've known several local groups 00:45:35.269 --> 00:45:37.969 they they actually get in in engaged in a in 00:45:37.969 --> 00:45:41.469 a friendly competition that's that's there with 00:45:41.469 --> 00:45:43.269 it they're having fun with that and that you 00:45:43.269 --> 00:45:45.909 know again it's it's it's all about getting out 00:45:45.909 --> 00:45:48.969 there having fun and really just getting on the 00:45:48.969 --> 00:45:51.710 air and having fun. So I mean, if you want to 00:45:51.710 --> 00:45:53.190 make it a friendly competition or see if you 00:45:53.190 --> 00:45:55.289 can do better than you did last year, well, that's 00:45:55.289 --> 00:46:01.349 your prerogative. That's all well and good. OK, 00:46:01.389 --> 00:46:06.269 very good. Well, that hopefully answers the question 00:46:06.269 --> 00:46:12.670 here. So thank you for that. And let's make sure 00:46:12.670 --> 00:46:19.679 we haven't left anybody out here. Refresh the 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:24.320 page and don't see anything here. So And we're 00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:28.059 we're at the end of our time. So Gentlemen, thank 00:46:28.059 --> 00:46:32.380 you for being here any last words Paul Well, 00:46:32.380 --> 00:46:34.900 I just want to say that the you know field day 00:46:34.900 --> 00:46:40.480 entry that entries are due by Tuesday July 23rd 00:46:40.429 --> 00:46:45.909 And we will have a web app at field -day .arrl 00:46:45.909 --> 00:46:50.010 .org. And again, that's where you would be submitting 00:46:50.010 --> 00:46:52.670 your logs. And we do accept them by postal mail 00:46:52.670 --> 00:46:57.989 as well. And I believe email, correct Bart? So 00:46:57.989 --> 00:47:00.010 you're going to see postal mail and web app. 00:47:00.349 --> 00:47:04.070 Our goal is to accept as much of the electronic 00:47:04.070 --> 00:47:07.510 submissions as possible with the web app with 00:47:07.510 --> 00:47:11.119 attachments. We, in the course of updating the 00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:13.840 field day rules package, have actually removed 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.420 reference to the email address. I know a lot 00:47:16.420 --> 00:47:18.480 of people know that it's out there and we'll 00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:20.639 have to figure out how to deal with that because 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.179 that's been sort of the pattern of past years. 00:47:23.420 --> 00:47:25.699 But we really like now to focus on those two 00:47:25.699 --> 00:47:29.500 avenues and eventually, probably never, but eventually 00:47:29.500 --> 00:47:34.019 try to get to a high 90 percent of all field 00:47:34.019 --> 00:47:39.340 day submissions being electronic. That would 00:47:39.340 --> 00:47:43.800 make everybody's job a whole lot easier. So I 00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:47.519 wish you great success on that one. Well Bart, 00:47:47.860 --> 00:47:52.900 any final comments here before we go? Two things. 00:47:53.260 --> 00:47:55.960 Paul and I are doing some field day visits in 00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:58.579 New England on Saturday. So we look forward to 00:47:58.579 --> 00:48:00.199 seeing some of the sites that we've coordinated 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:03.659 with. I know a lot of ARL directors and section 00:48:03.659 --> 00:48:06.340 managers are going to be out and about, ARL field 00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:10.630 employees. This is a national event, international 00:48:10.630 --> 00:48:17.050 in many respects, and we want to, both from headquarters 00:48:17.050 --> 00:48:20.449 and from the field, get out there and show our 00:48:20.449 --> 00:48:22.530 support to all of these groups who are doing 00:48:22.530 --> 00:48:26.230 such a great job in using this event to not only 00:48:26.230 --> 00:48:30.190 have fun, to demonstrate technology to the public, 00:48:30.730 --> 00:48:34.110 to practice their emergency preparedness. but 00:48:34.110 --> 00:48:36.969 also just to tell them we appreciate that they're 00:48:36.969 --> 00:48:40.869 doing that. Paul and I are going to be at W1AW 00:48:40.869 --> 00:48:43.769 for a good part of Saturday between bulletins. 00:48:44.349 --> 00:48:47.730 So W1AW will be on the air as well as on bulletin 00:48:47.730 --> 00:48:50.010 status. I'm not sure how much there will be on 00:48:50.010 --> 00:48:53.630 Sunday, but we'll definitely put in several hundred 00:48:53.630 --> 00:48:58.309 queues on Saturday. And as they might say on 00:48:58.309 --> 00:49:02.530 Hill Street Blues, be safe out there. and also, 00:49:02.630 --> 00:49:07.630 work them first, worry later. Okay. Alright, 00:49:07.769 --> 00:49:11.150 very good. Go ahead, Paul. If you do have any 00:49:11.150 --> 00:49:13.349 last minute questions or even questions about, 00:49:13.349 --> 00:49:16.130 you know, about how to submit a log or anything 00:49:16.130 --> 00:49:18.750 like that after the contest, you know, or a contest, 00:49:18.949 --> 00:49:23.449 I said contest there, I just... After the events, 00:49:24.329 --> 00:49:29.130 it's FD... info at ARRL .org and then that info 00:49:29.130 --> 00:49:32.590 is also on the ARRL website and by all means 00:49:32.590 --> 00:49:36.630 you can always call the contest branch at 860 00:49:36.630 --> 00:49:40.730 -594 -0232 and you'll get my desk so chances 00:49:40.730 --> 00:49:42.670 are I'll be answering that phone but if you do 00:49:42.670 --> 00:49:45.710 have a question by all means give a holler I'll 00:49:45.710 --> 00:49:47.630 be in the office tomorrow and as well we'll be 00:49:47.630 --> 00:49:50.530 there after you know after the event ends and 00:49:50.590 --> 00:49:53.309 uh you know answering any questions regarding 00:49:53.309 --> 00:49:57.929 entry submissions and and the like all right 00:49:57.929 --> 00:50:00.710 very good well thank you both for uh coming on 00:50:00.710 --> 00:50:04.030 the show and and paul congratulations on the 00:50:04.030 --> 00:50:07.849 on the new gig and bart on the on the upgrade 00:50:07.849 --> 00:50:13.750 there and um let's do it again next year all 00:50:13.750 --> 00:50:17.769 right sounds like a plan looking forward to neil 00:50:18.860 --> 00:50:21.820 All right. Well, hopefully you don't hear this 00:50:21.820 --> 00:50:24.239 sound This is the sound that that we're probably 00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:26.820 going to be hearing out here in Bloomington, 00:50:26.820 --> 00:50:31.079 Indiana and and so if you hear that sound make 00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:33.900 sure you you you get off of the air and stay 00:50:33.900 --> 00:50:37.480 safe because We're trying to figure out how we 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:43.219 can get some some floating antenna tripods with 00:50:43.219 --> 00:50:47.909 all this rain out here, so Be sure to stay safe 00:50:47.909 --> 00:50:52.179 and hope to hear you on the air. I will be. operating 00:50:52.179 --> 00:50:56.880 under N9SIA, the Southern Indiana Amateur Radio 00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:01.460 Association. We're going in with them at the 00:51:01.460 --> 00:51:04.539 K9IU, the amateur radio club at Indiana University 00:51:04.539 --> 00:51:07.219 and my club school, the Bloomington High School 00:51:07.219 --> 00:51:10.719 South Amateur Radio Club, K9SOU. We'll be operating 00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:15.219 N9SIA and go to will be K9IU. So hope to hear 00:51:15.219 --> 00:51:19.159 you on field day this weekend, but that's a wrap. 00:51:19.500 --> 00:51:23.059 for this week's episode of HamTalk Live. Thanks 00:51:23.059 --> 00:51:27.079 to my guests, Bart Yonkey, W9JJ, and Paul Bork, 00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:30.579 N1SFE, and everybody out there in cyberspace 00:51:30.579 --> 00:51:33.679 for listening and typing in and invite you back 00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:36.219 next Thursday night at 9 p .m. 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So for now, this is 00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:22.039 Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying seven three, seven 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.380 five, and may the good DX be yours.