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Right now, you could be sitting on a beach, sipping
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now here's Neil Rapp with more of the show. Welcome
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guests live from Newington, Connecticut. Matt
Severin in 8MS is the instructor of this week's
ARRL Teachers Institute 2 which he teaches annually.
He's an elementary school principal in southwest
Michigan. He became a ham in 1999 after his teacher
mentor in Elmer, Jim KU4C, encouraged him to
get his ticket so he could use ham radio in his
classroom. Matt says that Ham Radio has given
him many opportunities to share a hobby that
he loves with many school -aged children, and
his school has participated in the School Club
Roundup, talked to hams across the nation, and
even spoken to astronauts aboard the International
Space Station. And you can usually find Matt
on the air operating satellites. Allie Flynn,
KM3ALF, is the lifelong learning administrator
at ARRL. Allie performs the day -to -day operations
of the educational initiatives at the league
and she became licensed in April of 2018. And
Chris Bickel, K1BIC, is the lifelong learning
manager. Chris manages the educational initiatives
at ARRL. His background is in higher education
where he spent over 15 years as a director of
online learning and an educational technology
administrator. His undergraduate degree is in
psychology and his master's degree is in teaching.
He's a trained Skywarn spotter and is a member
of the ARRL's board. Their new heiress committee
for the International Space Station Chris has
been licensed since June of 2018 and we have
Matt and Ali live here in the hotel in Newington
and we have Chris via Skype just a few miles
down the road so Good evening and welcome to
the show. All right. Thanks for having us here.
Thank you Thanks to talk about We're going to
talk about Teachers Institute and some of the
things that ARRL is doing to help spread the
word about ham radio in the classroom. So Ali,
for those who aren't familiar with the ARRL Teachers
Institute, tell us a little bit about what the
goal is for. Teachers Institute from the league's
standpoint and what it is today and and a little
bit of a look back at how it all got started
Okay, so Teachers Institute was started approximately
15 years ago by Mark Spencer who was in the educational
services division of the league the Program is
an expenses paid professional development program
That is helping us to bridge the gap between
students and ham radio via the teachers and the
instructors. There is three sessions. There are
two level one sessions. There's a one level two
session which is happening this week. You will
have to have completed the first level in order
to subsequently go on to the second level. The
second level requires that you be a member and
a licensed ham. The first level does not require
either of those. So yeah, we've just been trying
to utilize it to instruct the teachers so they
can bring those instructions back to their classroom
and hopefully impart their enthusiasm upon their
students. Very good. Well, Matt, why don't you
give us a little bit of the history, because
you and I kind of go way back with this. I guess
that means we're old, but we kind of go back
to the days of when Mark Spencer, WA 8 SME, designing
all this and doing all this. So tell us a little
bit about the history behind how this all got
started. Okay, so if I think back to when I went
through TI myself as a student in 2008 and then
TI2 in 2009, I spent a lot of time talking to
Mark about what this program is about and he
really had this belief that we spend a lot of
money with products and giving things to teachers
in the classrooms, but the key piece that was
missing was the professional development. And
that's really what started the Teachers Institute.
So over the years, it started out with some basic
electronics, understanding radio, and also components
of robotics. And as we think about what we're
trying to do with our teachers, we want to inspire
learning with the teachers. It's not that we're
giving teachers a lesson plan or a script to
take back with them, but we want you guys to
have something that you're excited about and
you have tools that you can make fit into your
classroom or to your school district and within
your funding. So that's really kind of the foundation
of how it all started. The TI -1 has been pretty
constant over the years. The TI -2, we've been
playing with it. It's been evolving over the
years. We've had a basic electronics, Teachers
Institute 2. We've had a space TI -2. The most
recent one that we're running is called remote
sensing. And it's kind of a combination of what
was once a balloon concept where we were talking
about high altitude balloons. It evolved into
a buoy concept of collecting data using buoys.
And now we're talking about remote sensing, which
can be applied in any, any environment. And we
tied the satellite piece back into it. So we're
really trying to keep up with the times we evolve
with what's happening. Currently with education,
we're trying to stay abreast of all of the different
standards that teachers have to make sure that
they're addressing, but also maintaining that
amateur radio component as we go. Well, I tell
you, I've said many, many times that TI1, the
first one that I took 10, 11 years ago, was the
best professional development. opportunity I've
ever experienced and for the teachers out there
you know how professional development goes most
times. It's usually not good and so TI1 was an
incredible opportunity for me to to learn a lot
even though I've been a ham for 30 some years
I learned a lot of the the technical stuff, the
background and why this all works and then more
ideas of how to implement it into my classroom
because I've been doing hammering in the classroom
for 26 years but It was the ability to get some
new ideas and some new projects to come in. So
this week I decided I was coming back and doing
TI2. I don't know why I waited 10 years to do
it, but I say again, it's the best professional
development opportunity out there. And this week
has proved to be no exception to that. So tell
the listeners a little bit about what we've been
doing. And by the way, I think all of the members
of the class here are with us here tonight in
the lobby. So we're just about all of us. So
they're all here watching and watching Ali turn
50 shades of red, I think. But they're all here.
And so tell us a little bit about what we've
been doing, including me. And I'll tell an embarrassing
story here in a minute. But tell us what's been
going on this week. All right. So I want to go
back to the first thing you said that you ‑‑
and you and I didn't have this conversation beforehand.
You said it was the best professional development
that you had attended ever in your career. And
I echo that exact statement. The year that I
took TI1, I went back and I said this is the
best PD that I've ever had in 15 years of teaching
at that time. And that's really why I'm in this
position now. I was so inspired by it. I went
to TI2 and over time became part of the program
to teach this during the summer. What we've been
doing this week really had four main areas that
we wanted to explore this week. We were looking
at ADC, analog to digital converters. We were
looking at the buoy system or the remote sensing
system. We spent a lot of time looking at satellites
over the last two days. And tomorrow we're going
to talk about a project called Maria, which is
basically a Mars rover. So we're going to use
amateur radio to drive a little robot around
through the APRS network. It'll send commands
to our robot, which will then drive around. Earlier
I said it's we're not giving you a script. We're
not telling you what to teach. We're not giving
you a curriculum, but we're trying to inspire
those ideas. And I think that's what I heard
you saying, Neil, that that's kind of what happened
here. As a group, we've been sharing ideas. In
fact, as the instructor, I'm learning along right
alongside of you guys. There were some things
that we did this week that I lit up and I said,
oh my gosh, I finally understand why that works.
Or processing some of the data in Excel. We found
a solution to a problem that I've been having.
It must be working because this group seems pretty
excited. In fact, I know there was a group out
this morning at 5 a .m. trying to work satellite
SO50. It's not too often that you have your students
waking up early to do the stuff that you're doing.
And usually most evenings I'm staying late because
one or two people have one or two more things
that we want to accomplish during the week. And
then you have students who try to put together
an aero antenna. that has an arrow antenna at
home and is screwing the elements together without
the boom in the middle. And so I'm ‑‑ or, I mean,
this person was, you know, experienced at operating
satellites and putting these things together
and then you get the student ‑‑ so that kind
of reminds me of the ‑‑ Some of the things that
my students do, that sometimes they do things
that they know better, but they're not thinking.
Like the time that they tried to use a thermometer
to measure something and left the thermometer
in the case. That happened this year. So, you
know, there are those times, and so it's truly
a learning experience all the way around. You
know, and not naming any names, Neil, when students
do things like that of putting their antennas
together incorrectly, it reminds us as instructors
exactly like what you were saying that sometimes
You know, but you just make a mistake and that's
okay. That's part of the learning process We
we want you to struggle through it as as instructors
for Teachers Institute But also as educators
we do that with our own kids. We want them to
fail forward We want them to pick themselves
up and try again and sort it out and figure out
why it works or why it doesn't Because when they're
doing that thinking they're doing the learning
if you're just standing up there telling them
what to do You're doing all the learning because
you're doing all the thinking And for those of
you who aren't in the teaching world one of the
acronyms that goes around a lot as fail is first
attempt in learning and so that that was that
was My big failure this week so far. I've got
one more day to go We'll see if we can top that
but but that yeah, that was that was pretty embarrassing
But I'll but I'll own up to it. So Well, let's
go to Chris here for a minute. The Teachers Institute
is just one of the educational initiatives at
ARRL. Chris, tell us about some of those other
things that you've been working on. Well, the
next big thing that's coming along is our lifelong
learning program. The department has been called
Education for years and will still keep doing
all the things that we've done, such as the Teachers
Institute. The light, the change to lifelong
learning is to expand the. Oh, I think we lost
you. Initially, we're going to look to help those
who are licensed and who those who are licensed
and may not know exactly what to do and may not
have a Elmer nearby as many did in the past.
So we're still in the. development phase of that
but that should be coming along later this year
or early next year and will be a really big initiative
for ARRL in addition to the you know the education
technology program which is already in existence
and funds teachers institute offers grants to
teachers to start a station or to grow the station
they already have so lots of good stuff going
on. And Chris, I get a lot of questions from
teachers that are trying to start up a school
station or a school club or work things into
the curriculum and they just really have no idea
that these grants are out there for putting the
station together and I guess I was one of the
first ones to get a hold of that, but let's talk
a little bit about that grant program for schools.
Sure, there's two grants. One is a station grant.
So if you have nothing in place, then we can
give you a grant of up to $1 ,500 to acquire
a station. Of course, you'd need permission from
the school, but we can help you get started with
that. If you already have a station or have some
pieces in place, we have a progress grant that
you could use to enhance what you already have.
It's money to help you get started with some
instruction to go along with it. But really,
the hero is the teachers who are actually putting
these into place with the kids, with the schools.
It's a real exciting thing to see them take this
radio thing that's been around for years and
apply it to all kinds of modern STEM activities,
robotics and satellites and all that. It really
can have a big reach and it all depends on the
teachers and we're just there to help them get
started. Okay, and Allie, why don't you tell
us a little bit about how all this gets funded?
How do you pay for all this stuff? The ETP Fund,
the Education and Technology Fund, Program Fund
is funded by our generous donors. We have quite
a few out there who are supportive and very enthusiastic
about providing support to our teachers, not
only through the grants, but those funds actually
also support the Teachers Institute. So, we get
feedback from the folks who utilize the grants
to purchase their merchandise for their schools.
We get feedback from our teachers every year,
and it's always positive. So, our donors like
to hear that. The donors are very important for
making all this happen because it's not an easy
undertaking to bring teachers in for a week and
put them up at a hotel and try to take care of
all of their needs and facilitate all of that
and you've done an excellent job of that this
week. So thank you very much for all of that
and to Chris as well. Well, we're going to take
a break and then we're going to come back. We're
going to take your questions and we're also going
to talk to some of the other students from the
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you have a question and We're going to talk with
some of the participants here from this week,
but Chris, let me throw this to you too. What
are your future plans for the TI1 and TI2? Where
do you see this heading in a few years? Well,
like they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
We have a lot good that's going on and our main
focus is to just continue to promote it. expand
it, keep the content up to date and keep the
teachers excited when they're here. I don't know
that there's format changes that need to be made
because it seems to be working well but certainly
we do have a room for a few more people and we'll
keep looking for ways to get the word out such
as being here so thanks for having us on tonight.
Yeah, I was glad to be a help at least to get
the word out on this and so hopefully people
can apply for these grants and teachers can apply
to come to TI1 and TI2 and get some ideas if
you're struggling with getting ideas for you
know what to do with your kids in the classroom
to Learn all these things. It's a great place
to pick up ideas and you know, it's not just
It's not just physics. It's not just Even math,
you know, it's geography. It's foreign language
and and we've even got an HVAC guy here this
week and So actually Matt, why don't you you
take it and talk to some of our participants
here from the week? All right, well, you know
I was thinking earlier you asked me a question
about what we did this week and I really just
covered kind of the broad topics. I suspect people
would want to know a little more detail about
what we're doing. It's really based on the remote
sensing idea where we first learn about how the
sensors work. So we have thermistors to measure
temperature. We're looking at air pressure. We're
collecting that data. And then we're using APRS
to send it back to the classroom. So that has
that amateur radio link where it gets it back
into the classroom. The satellite part really
has just been about learning how to get on the
air and work the birds. And I think I probably
need to give a shout out to AMSAT, the AMSAT
community. They have been really supportive as
our new hams or satellite hams have been getting
on the air. I think everyone in our group, this
was the first time that they had made a satellite
QSO, except for you. And everybody so far has
been able to make a contact, which has been pretty
awesome. Except for Neil, right? And we still
have tomorrow. We'll be on a few birds tomorrow
morning. And even having AO92 in the camera mode
so that we could try to capture some of the high
speed telemetry was really appreciated and just
a great opportunity for us to learn and to dig
into the data and play around with it. So, like
I said, tomorrow, the last part in Teachers Institute
1, the teachers learn about some basic robotics.
We work with a robot from Parallax and tomorrow
we'll try to integrate that robot into the next
level of control where we'll use amateur radio
to move that bot around in kind of a Mars rover
scenario. So I guess we'll start out with asking
some of our students, I'm really curious to know
what's been the best part of this? What are you
going home most excited about? Who's up? While
we're waiting for somebody to come up here I
want to talk a little bit about this HVAC stuff
because because he's he's got kids building Tripods
and custom building stuff for these satellite
contacts So, you know, and I think you even mentioned
it in the class, you know You saw the application
and you're going wait a minute an HVAC guy, you
know, he's teaching vocational one how does that
fit into ham radio and and we found it works
very well so so okay dan's finally uh come up
here so we're going to get dan fuller on here
uh so dan what what uh has been the highlight
of the week so far okay so i'm ac1 en um the
highlight of the week for me has been uh being
a ham for just over a year. I've been working
with a great club up in Nashua and they've done
some how to do balloon stuff with us and we did
an arrows contact. We said I had to balloon up
twice now. I didn't really know how those sensors
were working. I've really gone through the gamut
of things I can do with ham radio. I contested.
I'm teaching kids to get licensed. And I myself
have mic fright. Right now you wouldn't know
it the way I'm talking. So making my first satellite
contact was really exciting for me. I did get
up at five this morning with one of my classmates
here. We failed the first time, so at 7 o 'clock
we were right back out there trying it again
and I was able to make a contact. That was the
most exciting thing for me, is to get the courage
to finally make that contact and know that I
had the support and the learning environment
that we have here. Now, technically it wasn't
your first satellite contact though, because
you had an Eris contact, so tell us a little
bit about the Eris contact. I guess I didn't
take that as a satellite contact on my own, my
own antenna. That was a lot of support that I
had. So last December, I was fortunate enough
to get an heiress contact from my school, Hudson
Memorial School up in Hudson, New Hampshire.
Great job, those heiress people, all the people
that worked to put this together, the ARRL, the
AMSAT people, the Nashville Area Radio Society.
It was phenomenal, the kids. really love this
event if this is something teachers can you know
apply for and get for their school through the
heiress committee it does you know change their
sights on any of the stem curriculums I had my
favorite part of that was one of the students
after came up to me instead you know I really
didn't care for much for math but I really get
it now and I really want to do well because I
really want to go into this this field can you
tell me more about ham radio and how I can get
involved So besides that, since then now I'm
part of that ARIS committee as well on the education
side. So I really love what ARIS did for my school.
It's been good to work with you on the committee
and see what those things are, you know, coming
up for ARIS. So it's been great to see you here
instead of just hear you on the teleconference.
That's been a lot of fun. 812 -638 -4261 is the
telephone number. If you'd like to call in and
ask a question about Teachers Institute or any
of the ARRL education initiatives, give us a
call. 812 -net -ham -1. 812 -638 -4261. Or you
can tweet us. if I can talk, at amtalklive on
Twitter and we'll check the questions here for
a few more minutes and we'll see if we can get
somebody else that has a highlight from the week
that you want to share and while Jeff is coming
over here, Drew, if you're listening, shout out
to you for turning on the camera yesterday and
today because we needed that. So Jeff, what about
you? What was your highlight? Well, one of the
things, first of all, my name is Jeff Weigel
and I teach down in Hampton, Virginia, middle
school science down there. So it was quite a
treat to be able to come up here to the ARL headquarters
here and not only see where everything is put
together, but to be able to operate the radios
here at the main station here. Now that being
said, we know that kids like things that they
can get their hands on. And that's what this
class has been all about. How can we introduce
amateur radio with some objects and things that
they can actually see and do in class? So I'm
looking forward to combining two of my best loves,
that would be radio, with teaching, combining
those together. And what a mission that is, to
be able to take that back to the kids and ignite
the interest in what's out there. And let's face
it, they already like They already like space
and aliens and things like that. So we're already,
if we're sending a signal up to a satellite and
bouncing it down to another part of the world,
what we're getting out there, what we're really
getting out there. So just looking forward to
taking back the tools that we have to the kids
so that they can help make those first contacts
back at the school. Excellent. Thank you, Jeff.
812 -638 -4261 if you have a question. We're
going to wrap things up here pretty quickly,
but if you have a question, give us a call, 812
-638 -4261, or tweet us at HamTalk Live. All
right. We've got more stories of what's going
on this week. Hey, thanks a lot, Neil. Am I good?
I'm Tom Layborn from Cedar Hill, Missouri, and
I teach at Woodridge Middle School. in High Ridge,
Missouri, Jefferson County, which is just south
of St. Louis. The most valuable thing I probably
am taking out of TI2 is the same thing I took
out of TI1, interaction with other teachers.
Being able to apply this stuff, I'm a pretty
new teacher and being able to hear what all my
peers are doing, that's making a huge difference
in how I'm actually going to apply that in my
own school. I'm really excited about the remote
sensing because I want to strap those things
on rockets. instead of buoys. Sorry, man. But
either way, it's making a very meaningful impact
of using all of this stuff to help the kids in
my county. And that's what I'm most grateful
for. do all kinds of stuff. And he's been talking
about these rockets all week. He's like, no,
I want a rocket. So we're going to see, we're
going to keep an eye on you and see if that rocket
comes out. So okay, we've got one more. So we're
going to do one more here. But if you have a
question, give us a call 812 -638 -4261 or tweet
us. So Cora. Hey, I'm Cora Suggs from Columbus,
Georgia. I'm excited to be here I've learned
a great deal and gotten a lot of support from
this group of teachers and I'm excited to use
the remote sensing so that the students can use
ham radio and robots to gather data from their
environment and From satellites and to graph
it and for them to graph and use data this applies
to them in an exciting new way to collect it.
So thank you for the opportunity to be here.
Well, there you have it from several of the participants
here from TI2. And when you donate to that cause,
you know, this is what is happening. And it doesn't
happen unless those donations pay for all of
this stuff. And so a lot of times we You know,
get that mailer that says the education and technology
program needs your help. We don't always see
exactly where that money goes. Well, this is
where it's going. And so I'm glad that we could
take this time to give you a chance to hear from
some of the people who are the benefactors of
of those donations. So we've got one more. Our
HVAC specialist is up here. So here you go. Hello,
Neil. This is Mario Szalinski, KB1MDS. I'm from
Winchester, New Hampshire. I teach at Pathfinder
Regional Vocational Technical High School in
Palmer, Mass. And the Teacher Institute 1 and
2 have been a really great help. I went to start
an amateur radio club at the school. And I didn't
know how to start a club. And I applied for TUI
Teacher Institute 1. And I got a lot of great
tools. And not only did I get a lot of great
tools to start a new club, but when I'm teaching
basic electricity in HVAC, or if I'm teaching
how wireless thermostats work in HVAC, or how
PLC controllers work in HVAC, TI1 and TI2 gave
me some really good background information that
I can share with the kids. And as a result of
that, one of the things that inspired me from
TI1 was to do an ARIES contact where I was able
to do a school -wide initiative where I can get
all the kids of the different trades to contribute
in building the radio station as well as having
the academic side of the house talk about the
space race and the sciences applied in space.
It was a really great experience for the kids.
They learned a lot. Maybe some of these kids
might not become amateur radios. operators, but
at least they got a chance to be part of an Aries
contact, learn what amateur radio is about, and
in some cases some of the students found out
that in the past and their grandparents are amateur
radio operators that they didn't even know about,
so it kind of sparked a lot of new family conversations.
So I'm very grateful for TI -1. I'm very grateful
for TI -2. This is a really great blessing for
me at the school. And the recurring theme over
the years that I learned from Carol Perry, WB2MGP,
and others is, you know, you teach radio, you
teach the license later, you get them hooked,
you get them involved, and that's really what
this is about, is teaching teachers how to get
the kids involved in it, and yeah, maybe not
every single student is going to be a ham radio
operator, like you just said, but... They're
gonna know about it and and they may be people
who are sitting on HOA boards That you know,
you want to put up an antenna and and you got
to get approval And so the more people know the
the benefits of this the better off we are So
I totally totally agree. Well, we're just about
out of time here, but Matt I'm gonna put you
on the spot because we're not in we're not in
class. So I get to do this So, after hearing
all of this, all of these praises and success
stories, what are your thoughts here on finishing
up tomorrow? Well, I'm really excited. Like every
day, I get up in the morning and I can't wait
to get over to headquarters with this group.
It's fun to see all of you guys talking to each
other and working with each other and building
those connections because this cohort I know
you'll keep in touch and be able to support each
other. So not only will they get the benefit
of the information, the content, the resources
that we have. But now we have an entire network
of teachers that we can connect with and reach
out to each other. And I think that's a huge
part in our business of education. You have to
have that network of educators that get it and
understand what you're doing. And we have that
common thread of amateur radio. So we have that
other side that we can connect on and really
build with. So I'm really looking forward to
tomorrow. It's going to be a little sad, though,
when we finally wrap everything up and send you
guys on your way home. And personally, I'd like
to thank all of the teachers, all the educators
who invest their time. I mean, this is their
summertime, you know, so they don't have a lot
of free time and they only have so many weeks
during the summer to enjoy themselves and they've
invested their time into this program. And I'd
also like to thank the donors, because without
them, these teachers couldn't get what they get
out of this program. So I'd like to thank them
both. Chris, anything here to finish up? It's
exciting to see the interest, the reach that
this is going to have. We're talking HVAC, we're
talking robotics, we're talking space. So that's
the real fun part is it's not just the radio,
it's all the things that radio is a gateway to.
that makes this exciting and shows that what
we're doing in lifelong learning is really going
to pay off over time. So once again, thanks for
having us. All right, Chris, thank you for all
of your work on this as well. And again, it's
one of the best. opportunities I've had and definitely
the best professional development I've ever had
and it's been a blast to be back and work with
Matt and Matt, I actually have known Matt for
a while because we did the school club roundup
thing and one of the things that Matt did that
stuck is having a list of questions that the
kids can answer. uh... so when you talk to kids
on the radio you know you have something to talk
about that they're going to be prepared to do
that and and i think that uh... that was a great
thing and that's something that's that stuck
with me uh... we he sent it out on the email
one time and and still use it to this day uh...
of things you know to to help with the mike fright
so so thank you to uh... to matt for for a great
week and and for alley and chris and their support
and And thank you to everybody out there listening
and chiming in tonight and listening a little
bit about this teacher's institute. And if you
are a teacher or you know of a teacher who wants
to get more information about the program, Allie,
where do they go? You can either email EAD at
ARRL .org. You can check out our website, www.
where you can simply call headquarters. 860 -594
-0200. All right, there you go. So if you need
more information, look that up, give them a call,
and you can find out more about the programs.
So that is a wrap for this week's edition of
HamTalk Live. Thanks to my guests. Matt Severin,
N8MS, Alley Flynn. KM3ALF and Chris Bickle K1BIC
and everybody out there in cyberspace for listening
in and typing in and invite you all back next
Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time for another
episode of HamTalk Live and for a list of all
of our upcoming guests just go to HamTalkLive
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faster. So for now this is Neil Rapp WB9VPG live
in Newington Connecticut. Sing 7375 and may the
good DX be yours.