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Good evening to everyone, it's time for HamTalk

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Live. It's episode number 179, Pitcairn Island

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De -Expedition, recorded live on Thursday, August

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29th, 2019. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG.

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Thanks for tuning in to this episode of HamTalk

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Live. Tonight we're joined by Dr. Ralph Fedor,

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KZeroIR, and Dr. Glenn Johnson, W -0 -G -J, and

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we'll take your calls live in just a few minutes.

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Last week here on the show was Joe Eisenberg,

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K -0 -N -E -B, here to talk about some exciting

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new kits. So if you missed that show, you can

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Scott and Jill are back out on the HamFest Tour.

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They'll be in Shelby, North Carolina this weekend.

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That's tomorrow and Saturday and Sunday, August

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Carolina. And then September 8th, Findlay, Ohio.

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And then in Peoria, Illinois at the Superfest

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on September 14th and 15th. But you can visit

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them anytime at PL -259 .com. We have two guests

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this evening. Dr. Ralph Fedor, KZeroir, resides

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near St. Cloud, Minnesota and has been licensed

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since 1962. Ralph's passions have been de -exing,

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contesting, and especially de -expeditions. Ralph

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has been on several trips including Navassa,

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Amsterdam Island, Malpelo, Bhutan, Peter One

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and Saba Island just to name a few. Ralph was

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one of the organizers of the attempt to activate

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Bouvet Island in January and he's talked to us

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about that previously. He is a retired doctor

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and radiologist and is an extra class operator.

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He's operated from 27 different countries and

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a member of many radio societies. He's on the

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board of the directors the International DX Association

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and has been elected to the DX Hall of Fame.

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Dr. Glenn Johnson, W -0 -G -J grew up near Marshalltown,

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Iowa. After studying forestry at Iowa State University,

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he received his medical degree from the University

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of Iowa. And after an internship in Seattle and

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residency in orthopedic surgery at the Mayo Clinic

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in Rochester, Minnesota, he spent five years

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in the Air Force in Anchorage, Alaska, and then

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returned to practice. in Minnesota after 30 some

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years. He's come full circle back to Iowa and

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working for the Mayo Clinic once again. Glenn's

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interest in amateur radio started as a youngster

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listening to his grandfather's shortwave radio

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and he was licensed at age 15 and within three

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months he had worked all 50 states with a homemade

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crystal transmitter. He's achieved a number one

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honor roll five band DXCC and five band worked

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all zones and he is co -led major DXCC expeditions

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to places such as DeCetio Island and Navassa

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and his first the expedition was to Heard Island

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in 2003 Glenn was inducted to the CQ magazine

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amateur radio Hall of Fame and in 2012 he was

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inducted into the DX Hall of Fame and he's been

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the vice president of the North Northern California

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DX Foundation and currently serves as its secretary.

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And he is also on the ARRL Contest Advisory Committee

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representing the Midwest Division. So Ralph and

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Glenn, thanks for being on the show. Well, thank

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you, Neil. Nice to be back. And we may have lost

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Glenn. Are you there, Glenn? Think we lost Clint.

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Yeah, we lost him again. I see it just said that

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he left So we'll wait for him to call back. Oh

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actually now he's calling back right now. So

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let's see if we can Add him in here Glenn is

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traveling down in Texas right now. So he's had

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some Problems getting into the Getting signal

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into the cell system, so we'll have to You may

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be coming going tonight, so we'll we'll get that

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figured out, but Ralph we'll go ahead and start

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with you while we try to get Glenn back on the

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line here it seems like there's always another

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de -expedition on the list and Time for another

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big one so tell us about Pitcairn Island its

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location and environment and operating conditions

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Well, Pitcairn is in the southern Pacific Ocean

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in French Polynesia. After the Bouvet experience,

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let me euphemize here a little bit, after the

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Bouvet experience we needed something that would

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spell success and have a little fun at the same

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time. uh... i would i'd known about pit cairn

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for a long time and the more i uh... looked into

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it the more fascinated i became with the island

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and its history uh... so i thought it was time

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to pay a visit there and then see what this is

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all about okay very good will remind everybody

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just exactly where that is This is Dr. Glenn

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Johnson. Thanks for calling. Please leave a message.

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I'll return your call as soon as I can. At the

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time, please record your message. Let's see if

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we can figure out how to... There we go. Okay.

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We'll try to get Glenn back again. You know,

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before the show came on, we had quite a roundabout

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here. There's something about cow giving birth

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in Texas and an orthopedic surgeon needing to

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be present at the birth, so I don't know where

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we're gonna go tonight, but we'll have fun. Yeah,

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when you get a cow that gets a house call to

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Texas, that's pretty impressive. Okay, anyway.

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Pitcairn is south of the equator. If you drew

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a line from the coast of Chile to New Zealand,

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Pitcairn is almost exactly one -half way between.

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So it's out in the middle of a really big pond,

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quite isolated. And the isolation plays into

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the history of Pitcairn Island when the mutineers

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from the bounty decided to hide out there. They

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needed a remote place and they found one. Okay,

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very good. Well, what are you expecting for operating

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conditions? You know, every de -expedition has

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its environmental challenges with hot, cold,

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windy, you name it. So what are the challenges

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on this one? Well, we're just getting into the

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start of the rainy season when we arrive, so

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I expect we'll have a mix of sunshine and rain,

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but we're prepared for either one. Temperature

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-wise, I think it'll be probably in the 70s,

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maybe poke into the 80s a little bit once in

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a while. It will be quite humid. One of the challenges

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we'll have is that Pitcairn is small. It's about

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one mile by two miles, but rises to an elevation

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of 1 ,100 feet. So there's a lot of up and down

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terrain there that we will be traversing. We'll

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have two sites to operate from, both of them

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excellent locations with good takeoff, but there's

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a little trekking going up and down hills to

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move between the two. As far as equipment goes,

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we will be well prepared. We will have flex radios

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on all bands. We will have beam antennas on 10

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through 20. We will have a four -square on 40,

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quarter wave verticals on 30 and 80, and a 90

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-foot vertical on 160. Full legal limit, 24 -7

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operation, just like a real de -expedition. We

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will be paying close attention to propagation,

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particularly as it pertains to Europe, because

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it's a challenge for those folks to work into

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that part of the Pacific, so we'll be paying

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a lot of attention to that. Most of all, we want

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this to be fun. You know, fun for the audience,

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fun for the team, kind of a Pitcairn Island QSO

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party. All right, very good. Well, you know,

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we talked a little bit about the software -defined

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radio and how that made a change and, you know,

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it wasn't long ago we were talking about, you

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know, the first The Expedition to go with the

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software -defined radios. How do you think that

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choice has worked out? Well, so far so good.

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In my contesting experience with the SDRs, it's

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been very positive. The thing that really makes

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this exciting for me is I can get rid of an awful

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lot of wires, and I have things talking to each

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other, you know, on virtual cables. virtual audio

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links. There's a CAT system that controls everything.

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So I'm excited about it. Also, the ability to

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process signals, hear low signals down on the

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noise seems to be impressive to me so far in

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my work with the soft SDRs. Well, very good.

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Now, a lot of the expeditions you go on are to

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uninhabited islands and so you have to take some

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fish and wildlife people with you to guard or

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that kind of thing. This is a little different

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because there's around 50 people living on the

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island. How is that going to go and how does

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that change the difficulty of the trip? Well,

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I think it's really enhanced things. We've been

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in contact with several people on the island.

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Everyone seems to be excited about us coming.

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They've been very helpful giving us a lot of

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information about the terrain, the weather, what

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we can expect. They're providing housing for

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us, the place that we're staying. the owner of

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the property looked around and said, you know,

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I've got 14 people coming and that's going to

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be a little tight. So I'm going to build an addition

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on my house so I can house these people. That's

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the kind of attitude we've run into. Oh, that's

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excellent. So that takes a big strain off of

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the team, I'm sure. It does. And you don't have

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to spend all that time pitching tents. putting

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in tent anchors and arranging sleeping quarters

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and all that sort of thing so we can get right

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to the expedition operating. And one thing that

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just came up, instead of our ship taking us and

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our cargo and gear to Pitcairn Island, in one

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trip. The ship is actually going by Pitcairn

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Island on September 6th and it will be dropping

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off all our gear there. So when we arrive, our

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gear will be there and we don't have to unpack

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it or we'll have to unpack it. We don't have

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to get it off the ship. We don't have to transfer

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it to boats. We don't have to transfer it from

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the boat to the shore. That'll all be done for

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us and that will shave hours and hours off our

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setup time and get us on the air quicker. That

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just sounds like a fabulous timing of events

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there. So congratulations on all of that. Now

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in reading up on pit care in a little bit, I

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heard and read that there was a club station

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actually on the island. So tell us a little bit

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about that and are you gonna have a chance to

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visit that? Is that in the plans? What's going

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on with that these days? Neil, we will visit

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the remains of the club station. When Tom Christian,

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BR6TC, was active from Pitcairn, he maintained

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a station at the old shortwave radio site near

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the summit of the island. When other things came

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along, other means of communication, satellites

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and now internet, the need for that kind of disappeared

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and also Tom Christian died. So the site fell

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into a state of disarray. As far as I know, there

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is no club station on Pitcairn. There are several

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licensed hams there. Only one is occasionally

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active, and she is somewhat handicapped by antenna

00:18:05.460 --> 00:18:09.180
problems and old equipment. While we're there,

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we hope we can remedy some of those problems

00:18:11.700 --> 00:18:14.319
for her and get her on the air again, maybe introduce

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her to some of the new modes. But the club station

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is gone. The site is still there and we will

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be using that site as our second operating site.

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It's well positioned on the island, 360 degree

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clear takeoff, and lots of room for the big antennas.

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So it will probably be our low band setup 160

00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:41.160
through 40. Well, very good. And we've got Dr.

00:18:41.299 --> 00:18:44.779
Glenn Johnson, W0GJ, back on the line here with

00:18:44.779 --> 00:18:48.779
us. as he is uh... dodging cows down in texas

00:18:48.779 --> 00:18:54.380
so good evening glenn good evening Neil I tried

00:18:54.380 --> 00:18:57.279
dialing in several times a long time of no service

00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:00.259
and I heard your intro about uh... my interest

00:19:00.259 --> 00:19:02.339
in ham radio started when I was listening to

00:19:02.339 --> 00:19:04.500
my grandfather's shortwave radio and one of my

00:19:04.500 --> 00:19:07.579
purposes was coming down here I actually found

00:19:07.579 --> 00:19:11.480
on ebay uh... a restored radio that my grandfather

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like my grandfather had to take that home as

00:19:14.859 --> 00:19:18.059
a prize. So that was one of my reasons for coming

00:19:18.059 --> 00:19:22.900
down to Texas this time of year. All right, very

00:19:22.900 --> 00:19:26.819
good. Well, we've been talking a little bit about

00:19:26.819 --> 00:19:31.500
the island and what the setup is going to be.

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What are you looking forward to on this trip?

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Well, you know, Pipkirn has a fascinating history

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with the Mutiny of the Bounty. And I've read

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about a dozen books and just kind of reliving

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and seeing some of the history and the place

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is fascinating. But also just, it's always fun

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on the expedition to make as many contacts as

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you can. And it's kind of a new era with FTH

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and some of the weak signal modes that we have

00:20:02.630 --> 00:20:04.690
today that we didn't have even two or three years

00:20:04.690 --> 00:20:09.549
ago. And even in spite of the bottom of the sunspot

00:20:09.549 --> 00:20:12.470
cycle, we're going to be able to utilize some

00:20:12.470 --> 00:20:15.809
of the upper bands with some of the backscatter

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frequency propagation modes that will enable

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some weak signal communication. So we're looking

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forward to that. That's one of the things I'm

00:20:26.650 --> 00:20:29.069
looking forward to is see how well we can do

00:20:29.069 --> 00:20:31.109
in the upper bands at the bottom of the sunspot

00:20:31.109 --> 00:20:35.670
cycle with these weak signal modes. Yeah, and

00:20:35.670 --> 00:20:38.069
while we're talking about modes, that was exactly

00:20:38.069 --> 00:20:42.390
my next question. Can you run down All the modes

00:20:42.390 --> 00:20:47.630
that you have planned Well the usual sideband

00:20:47.630 --> 00:20:51.890
CW and Really will probably be there a little

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bit, but we'll probably use Ft8 simply because

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with the Fox and hound mode now we can work you

00:20:58.849 --> 00:21:02.089
know two or three people at a time and Probably

00:21:02.089 --> 00:21:05.450
I have You know because it still counts as a

00:21:05.450 --> 00:21:08.569
digit really and Ft8 count as digital context

00:21:08.859 --> 00:21:12.240
and we can probably run a higher rate with FTH

00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:14.880
on some modes. That'll be fun to try ready too.

00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:19.279
That's a good old standby mode. And EME will

00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:24.859
be fun. EME using some of the JT65 modes for

00:21:24.859 --> 00:21:30.119
EME on six meters. Okay, very good. Well, it

00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.740
sounds like people have plenty of different ways

00:21:33.740 --> 00:21:37.819
to get a hold of you in different bands and hopefully

00:21:38.490 --> 00:21:41.150
We can get a whole bunch of people in the log

00:21:41.150 --> 00:21:44.250
from Pitcairn Island. So I'll tell you what,

00:21:44.269 --> 00:21:47.049
we're gonna take a break right now and when we

00:21:47.049 --> 00:21:50.170
come back, we're going to take your questions.

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00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.410
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00:25:00.410 --> 00:25:07.750
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00:25:23.690 --> 00:25:26.950
not here. This was Thursday night, so you won't

00:25:26.950 --> 00:25:29.890
be able to... call in tonight but we do have

00:25:29.890 --> 00:25:33.529
a couple of questions that have come in and so

00:25:33.529 --> 00:25:36.089
we'll go ahead and start with those and if you

00:25:36.089 --> 00:25:39.069
want to give us a call eight one two six three

00:25:39.069 --> 00:25:42.369
eight four two six one so uh... ralph i think

00:25:42.369 --> 00:25:46.230
you've been delegated for this one so uh... michael

00:25:46.230 --> 00:25:50.210
brydak wants to know does andy's pizza in pitcairn

00:25:50.210 --> 00:25:54.930
deliver well i i think andy will deliver just

00:25:54.930 --> 00:25:58.500
about anything for a price For the audience,

00:25:58.859 --> 00:26:03.059
Andy is our host on Pittman Island. We'll be

00:26:03.059 --> 00:26:06.420
sleeping at his place. It has an excellent location.

00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:09.940
We'll have some stations there. Andy does have

00:26:09.940 --> 00:26:12.819
some culinary skills. He's pretty good in the

00:26:12.819 --> 00:26:16.119
kitchen and he likes to make pizza. I'm sure

00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:19.299
we'll be eating some pizza. As far as delivery

00:26:19.299 --> 00:26:22.079
goes, if he's going to make a delivery he has

00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:25.809
to get into the longboat and maybe go about Oh,

00:26:26.210 --> 00:26:28.529
200 miles or so to the nearest island, and that

00:26:28.529 --> 00:26:31.549
one doesn't have any people on it. So his delivery

00:26:31.549 --> 00:26:33.849
business is kind of in the tank right now. The

00:26:33.849 --> 00:26:36.849
will is there, but the resources are just not

00:26:36.849 --> 00:26:43.180
there. I'm sorry. All right, and Glenn will give

00:26:43.180 --> 00:26:49.660
you this one. This is from Brett wy7bg and He

00:26:49.660 --> 00:26:53.500
wants us to ask in these times of low solar activity

00:26:53.500 --> 00:26:57.460
What bands and modes do you expect to work the

00:26:57.460 --> 00:27:11.539
best for them and at what times of day? But 30

00:27:11.539 --> 00:27:15.160
meters will be open now, hopefully 20 to 22 hours

00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:17.740
a day. So 30 meters is a pretty good band to

00:27:17.740 --> 00:27:24.640
be on Tw ft8 ready modes and 40 we should be

00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:27.160
good at night the lower bands are certainly favored

00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:31.420
this time of the solar cycle and I have noticed

00:27:31.420 --> 00:27:34.339
the propagation the indices this last week and

00:27:34.339 --> 00:27:37.720
I don't ever recall seeing the solar flux down

00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.640
to 66 before, but it's been that the last few

00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.839
days. And that, of course, certainly favors 160

00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:48.539
meters, you know, the low bends, 160 and 80 meters.

00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:53.079
And FTA, even though everything sounds like it's

00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:58.240
been dead on 20 meters, FTA 14074 has been just

00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.930
really active all over the world. almost simultaneously

00:28:02.930 --> 00:28:07.950
the last few days. So, you know, the upper bands,

00:28:07.950 --> 00:28:12.910
you know, 18 megahertz, 21 megahertz, that's

00:28:12.910 --> 00:28:15.329
going to be a little iffy. Those times from the

00:28:15.329 --> 00:28:17.450
U .S. are going to best be probably in the late

00:28:17.450 --> 00:28:22.849
afternoon and early evening. So we expect more

00:28:22.849 --> 00:28:25.430
activity in low bands and hopefully a lot of

00:28:25.430 --> 00:28:28.009
activity on 20 and 30 meters, especially almost

00:28:28.009 --> 00:28:33.569
all day long. Okay, so Brett, there you have

00:28:33.569 --> 00:28:37.589
it, and good luck with contacting the team down

00:28:37.589 --> 00:28:42.170
at Pitcairn Island. Lynn Johnson, WZeroGJ, and

00:28:42.170 --> 00:28:45.309
Ralph Fedor KZeroIR are our guests tonight. And

00:28:45.309 --> 00:28:47.750
if you have a question, give us a call at 812

00:28:47.750 --> 00:28:53.630
-638 -4261. That's 812 -net -ham1 or tweet us

00:28:53.630 --> 00:28:57.509
at HamTalk Live, and we'll keep checking that

00:28:57.509 --> 00:29:01.210
throughout the night. Now a question for both

00:29:01.210 --> 00:29:04.130
of you here, let's talk a little bit about this

00:29:04.130 --> 00:29:07.569
160 meter antenna that you mentioned quickly.

00:29:07.950 --> 00:29:11.529
There's a little story behind that, so fill us

00:29:11.529 --> 00:29:17.369
in on the back story on this 160 antenna. Well,

00:29:17.670 --> 00:29:23.650
no dear, EY8MM is our 160 meter cheerleader enthusiast

00:29:23.650 --> 00:29:27.359
guru. When we were going to Bouvet, we paid a

00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:31.759
visit to DX Engineering and Nodir said, I would

00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:36.039
like a really good antenna for 160 meters. And

00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:39.920
DX Engineering responded by building a 90 -foot

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:44.200
guide vertical for 160 meters with a base matching

00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:49.539
unit. It should be a real killer antenna as far

00:29:49.539 --> 00:29:52.460
as de -expedition antennas go. So we should be

00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:55.140
loud on 160 and I think anybody that needs us

00:29:55.140 --> 00:29:58.539
on 160 should be able to work us there. The location

00:29:58.539 --> 00:30:01.799
will be up on the hill at the old radio station

00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.299
site where we will probably have other low band

00:30:04.299 --> 00:30:06.799
antennas and we'll spend a lot of nights up there.

00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.420
So I think this antenna should play very, very

00:30:09.420 --> 00:30:14.819
well on 160. Hopefully, we'll be on CW and FT.

00:30:16.460 --> 00:30:22.059
I'm not sure exactly how we'll divvy up the modes.

00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.339
But one thing with FT8, on most of the bands,

00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:31.180
80 meters and above, and maybe on 80, we will

00:30:31.180 --> 00:30:33.740
not use the Fox and Hound mode. The Fox and Hound

00:30:33.740 --> 00:30:36.599
mode on the upper bands can work two or three,

00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.009
even maybe four stations at once. But if you

00:30:40.009 --> 00:30:43.130
have, let's say, 100 watts, if you're working

00:30:43.130 --> 00:30:46.930
three people, your power is distributed to each

00:30:46.930 --> 00:30:49.329
of the three people you respond to, to maybe

00:30:49.329 --> 00:30:53.529
25 watts. It's not exactly an equal distribution

00:30:53.529 --> 00:30:56.630
of power, but it's cut down quite a bit. And

00:30:56.630 --> 00:31:00.670
on 160, of course, because it's such a difficult

00:31:00.670 --> 00:31:04.390
band with hard paths, we will not be using the

00:31:04.390 --> 00:31:08.089
Fox and Hound mode on... 160 meters and possibly

00:31:08.089 --> 00:31:11.789
on 80. It depends on the propagation on 80. If

00:31:11.789 --> 00:31:15.849
you contact us using Fox -to -Hound mode on the

00:31:15.849 --> 00:31:19.470
upper bands, it will not work on 160 meters.

00:31:20.970 --> 00:31:24.269
Let me throw in just one other idea here. I've

00:31:24.269 --> 00:31:27.930
been playing around with FT4 a little bit and

00:31:27.930 --> 00:31:32.299
it's faster than FTA. I'm not quite sure how

00:31:32.299 --> 00:31:35.299
it would play on 160 with the shorter sequences

00:31:35.299 --> 00:31:37.720
and so forth, but that may be another option

00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.819
to up the rate a bit. I think that'd be an exciting

00:31:41.819 --> 00:31:43.960
thing to try, because I don't think anybody has

00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.079
really used it on the de -expedition before.

00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.519
It's not as critical with the time -sinking either.

00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.720
It might even prove more productive than FTH.

00:31:56.190 --> 00:31:58.849
We'll just have to see something to experiment

00:31:58.849 --> 00:32:02.069
with and report back on later Yeah, I think it's

00:32:02.069 --> 00:32:06.069
worth a try Neil Okay, very good. Well there

00:32:06.069 --> 00:32:09.430
there you go. You've got some experimenting to

00:32:09.430 --> 00:32:14.430
do and Always up for for trying out something

00:32:14.430 --> 00:32:19.230
new so That sounds like a great idea and and

00:32:19.230 --> 00:32:22.069
we'll have to keep an eye out for Maybe some

00:32:22.069 --> 00:32:25.109
FT for from down there who knows so if you have

00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:29.049
a question give us a call Go ahead Glenn. I think

00:32:29.049 --> 00:32:32.549
the best thing be to update our web website with

00:32:32.549 --> 00:32:36.150
how we're doing on the modes and You know so

00:32:36.150 --> 00:32:38.049
frequently visiting our website We'll kind of

00:32:38.049 --> 00:32:39.869
fill you in and keep you up to date on how we're

00:32:39.869 --> 00:32:41.789
doing and how we're operating different modes

00:32:43.340 --> 00:32:45.579
And while we're on that, let's go ahead and give

00:32:45.579 --> 00:32:52.339
out that web address. It is Pitcairn. Oh, go

00:32:52.339 --> 00:32:59.279
ahead. Yeah, it is PitcairnDX .com. Okay, and

00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:04.619
that's P -I -T -C -A -R -I -N, Pitcairn Island

00:33:04.619 --> 00:33:12.009
DX. Very good. Yeah, just PitcairnDX .com. PitcairnDX

00:33:12.009 --> 00:33:15.049
.com. All right, very good. All right, so you

00:33:15.049 --> 00:33:17.630
can check that out and see what they're up to

00:33:17.630 --> 00:33:19.670
once they get down there and try some of these

00:33:19.670 --> 00:33:22.309
things and see what's working and what's not

00:33:22.309 --> 00:33:27.630
working so well and give it a try. So, okay,

00:33:27.789 --> 00:33:30.769
we've got another question here and I had something

00:33:30.769 --> 00:33:33.809
kind of on the back burner here to try and...

00:33:33.789 --> 00:33:38.190
I don't know why all of these questions are revolving

00:33:38.190 --> 00:33:44.710
around food and drink, but here we go. First

00:33:44.710 --> 00:33:50.210
of all, Carl, KD9HQT, wants to know, will you

00:33:50.210 --> 00:33:57.509
find any 807s on the island? I can address that.

00:33:58.230 --> 00:34:06.559
Okay. The answer is yes. Now, while we're on

00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:10.179
the subject of beverages and not the antennas,

00:34:12.260 --> 00:34:19.280
you had a rather sizable donation that came in

00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:25.179
that was very unique. Tell us about it. Well,

00:34:25.179 --> 00:34:29.700
a good friend of mine, and Glenn's also, Jim,

00:34:29.700 --> 00:34:33.440
K0JUH, a local ham who lives nearby, and he's

00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:37.239
not local, but he lives in the metro area, is

00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.579
a former employee of the Coca -Cola company.

00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.880
So he got in touch with Coca -Cola New Zealand

00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:47.019
and said, hey Coke New Zealand, could you cut

00:34:47.019 --> 00:34:51.920
these guys a deal on Coke products? So, I polled

00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.019
the team and I said, okay, what do you like to

00:34:54.019 --> 00:34:55.920
drink that's a Coke product? And you know, we've

00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:58.199
got so many Sprites and so many Diet Cokes and

00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.840
so many Coke Zeroes and so many Fantas and so

00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:03.420
forth. Put on a spreadsheet and I sent it to

00:35:03.420 --> 00:35:06.960
Jim and I said, this is our dietary requirements

00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.559
for beverages. Jim got in touch with Coke New

00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.179
Zealand. They delivered the product to the Braveheart.

00:35:13.260 --> 00:35:16.059
It is now at sea on its way to Pitcairn Island.

00:35:16.869 --> 00:35:20.409
and uh... uh... you know jim negotiated a a nice

00:35:20.409 --> 00:35:23.349
price with coca -cola and the generous uh...

00:35:23.349 --> 00:35:26.010
gentleman that he is jim also uh... provided

00:35:26.010 --> 00:35:28.469
a very generous donation to the pitcairn island

00:35:28.469 --> 00:35:31.750
the expedition so we will be well endowed with

00:35:31.750 --> 00:35:35.409
coke products thanks to k zero j u h alright

00:35:35.409 --> 00:35:40.309
well let's see now you know i just had an idea

00:35:40.309 --> 00:35:43.670
and this may be one of my air -brained ideas

00:35:45.260 --> 00:35:49.380
You know you could you could bring me back a

00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:55.719
coke zero and and then you could like Sell coke

00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:57.800
zeros that have been to pick Karen Island to

00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:02.579
raise money for the team You think that would

00:36:02.579 --> 00:36:10.760
work We could write the QSL information on the

00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:17.989
can oh there you go Don't know I don't know that

00:36:17.989 --> 00:36:20.829
maybe that maybe that won't work, but but it's

00:36:20.829 --> 00:36:24.610
a great donation and I'm sure you all will enjoy

00:36:24.610 --> 00:36:28.789
it and need all of the Refreshing beverages that

00:36:28.789 --> 00:36:31.590
you can get a hold of while you're on Pitcairn

00:36:31.590 --> 00:36:35.750
Island. So Very good. Well, let's let's check

00:36:35.750 --> 00:36:38.849
one more time for questions If you have one give

00:36:38.849 --> 00:36:43.369
us call 812 -638 -4261 or tweet or comment on

00:36:43.369 --> 00:36:47.530
Spreaker And we'll check all of those here one

00:36:47.530 --> 00:36:50.710
last time. See if we have any more questions.

00:36:51.610 --> 00:36:54.570
You know, the question that came to mind for

00:36:54.570 --> 00:37:00.769
me was, is there internet on the island? There

00:37:00.769 --> 00:37:03.809
is internet on the island. The bandwidth is probably

00:37:03.809 --> 00:37:07.690
not what we're used to here. But thanks to internet,

00:37:07.829 --> 00:37:10.369
we have been able to communicate with people

00:37:10.369 --> 00:37:13.820
like Andy on Pitcairn. the police and immigration

00:37:13.820 --> 00:37:16.440
officer who happens to be Andy's mother, Brenda,

00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.659
on Pitcairn, and a few other people in need of

00:37:20.659 --> 00:37:24.360
some tools and so forth that they needed. And,

00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:26.500
you know, Glenn might address this a little bit.

00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.880
The Pitcairn Islanders needed some things and

00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.179
we kind of stepped up to the plate for them.

00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.360
Somehow they found out that I do some woodworking

00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:40.510
and they... One of their main sources of income

00:37:40.510 --> 00:37:45.150
is selling curios or things they make to the

00:37:45.150 --> 00:37:47.889
tourists and yachters that drop by. Sometimes

00:37:47.889 --> 00:37:52.949
there's a cruise ship that drops by and sometimes

00:37:52.949 --> 00:37:56.829
some of the crew people go ashore. Many times

00:37:56.829 --> 00:38:01.469
the pictures will go out onto the boat. set up

00:38:01.469 --> 00:38:03.789
little tables and sell their wares. They make

00:38:03.789 --> 00:38:05.989
a lot of little wooden objects, little mementos

00:38:05.989 --> 00:38:10.389
to remember to care and buy. And looking at a

00:38:10.389 --> 00:38:13.150
couple pictures, they're little workshops where

00:38:13.150 --> 00:38:16.110
they make this. They have piles and piles of

00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:19.690
sawdust, but they were in need of some bandsaw

00:38:19.690 --> 00:38:23.610
parts where they make these things. And we have

00:38:23.610 --> 00:38:27.309
a few thousand dollars worth of bandsaws and

00:38:27.309 --> 00:38:30.900
bandsaw parts. to help keep them in business

00:38:30.900 --> 00:38:34.519
with their handicrafts. So that's in some of

00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.940
our containers, a lot of equipment to help just

00:38:37.940 --> 00:38:40.300
help them do things like that. We have some lawnmower

00:38:40.300 --> 00:38:44.639
parts and other things that they need to find

00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:47.960
very difficult to get. So we're trying to help

00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:53.139
them and keep them going. Oh, that's great. I

00:38:53.139 --> 00:38:58.139
love it. And you'll be able to To help out with

00:38:58.139 --> 00:39:02.599
the ham radio operator there and get her antennas

00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:08.340
fixed hopefully We hope so and you know among

00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:12.599
the other Among the other needful things on Pitcairn

00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:17.340
Island. We have sent marshmallow fluff peanut

00:39:17.340 --> 00:39:22.320
butter two cases of baby Ruth candy bars and

00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:27.059
100 bags of original Fritos corn chips Oh, there

00:39:27.059 --> 00:39:33.739
we go. Well, this is making for an interesting

00:39:33.739 --> 00:39:40.360
story because normally, you know, you have to

00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:44.579
pick up every single last thing, you know, that

00:39:44.579 --> 00:39:48.119
you brought and, you know, you don't leave anything

00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.400
behind and there's no one to leave it behind

00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:55.329
for. And this time you have a chance to help

00:39:55.329 --> 00:39:58.210
out some of the natives there. So that's really

00:39:58.210 --> 00:40:02.289
cool. Well, I don't see any more questions tonight,

00:40:02.289 --> 00:40:06.389
so we're going to finish things up. But Ralph,

00:40:06.750 --> 00:40:09.949
let's give you a chance here. Anything else that

00:40:09.949 --> 00:40:12.650
you want to talk about? And then we need to talk

00:40:12.650 --> 00:40:16.670
about the website and donating to the cause before

00:40:16.670 --> 00:40:21.630
we go. OK, well, I guess my parting shot, Neil,

00:40:21.710 --> 00:40:25.139
would be that there are so many interesting and

00:40:25.139 --> 00:40:29.179
fascinating things about Pitcairn to spawn questions

00:40:29.179 --> 00:40:32.699
and discussions of, you know, in ladies aid groups

00:40:32.699 --> 00:40:36.400
or ham radio clubs or whatever. And one of the

00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.500
things that we've hoped to do with this is to

00:40:39.500 --> 00:40:42.280
stimulate some public interest in this de -expedition

00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:46.119
and Pitcairn Island. Whether that's a fifth grade

00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.519
class, a graduate student in genetics, a history

00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:53.800
buff or someone interested in the history of

00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.139
navigation or sociology or whatever, it would

00:40:57.139 --> 00:40:59.960
be great if we could involve those people in

00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:03.539
the de -expedition because there are so many

00:41:03.539 --> 00:41:06.840
things that Pitcairn offers besides the ham radio

00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:10.239
aspect of it. So if we could get the public more

00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:13.730
involved in this, and enrich the public a little

00:41:13.730 --> 00:41:16.150
bit with what we're doing, that would be really

00:41:16.150 --> 00:41:18.389
great. And I would love to have someone step

00:41:18.389 --> 00:41:20.869
up to the plate and say, hey, I've got this frisky

00:41:20.869 --> 00:41:23.429
class who could, you know, could we have a video

00:41:23.429 --> 00:41:25.449
conference with the kids on Pitcairn Island?

00:41:25.889 --> 00:41:28.230
Something like that would really, really be great.

00:41:29.429 --> 00:41:31.809
A lot of interesting stuff there. There's something

00:41:31.809 --> 00:41:34.449
for everybody. The more people we can involve,

00:41:34.510 --> 00:41:39.389
the richer the experience for everybody. Very

00:41:39.389 --> 00:41:43.619
good. And Glenn? the same for you anything we've

00:41:43.619 --> 00:41:45.820
left off here that you want to get in tonight

00:41:45.820 --> 00:41:49.719
I'm not sure exactly what was covered but you

00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:51.420
know the Braveheart is going to deliver most

00:41:51.420 --> 00:41:55.420
of our stuff in the next week or so so and things

00:41:55.420 --> 00:41:57.699
have been moved up to our operating site and

00:41:57.699 --> 00:42:00.199
so that's going to save a couple days getting

00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:03.199
everything organized and getting us on the air

00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.860
and then some of our stuff is going to be packed

00:42:06.860 --> 00:42:10.369
up and put on the Braveheart and go to another

00:42:10.369 --> 00:42:13.630
de -expedition in the Antarctic. And then on

00:42:13.630 --> 00:42:15.949
the way back, our personal stuff will be picked

00:42:15.949 --> 00:42:19.269
up and taken back to New Zealand and shipped

00:42:19.269 --> 00:42:24.210
to us. So it's kind of a two -for -one for a

00:42:24.210 --> 00:42:26.170
couple de -expeditions. So we're looking forward

00:42:26.170 --> 00:42:29.389
to working with people at the Braveheart, people

00:42:29.389 --> 00:42:32.690
at Pitcairn Island, and the South Arctic de -expeditions

00:42:32.690 --> 00:42:37.710
coming up this fall. Okay, very good. And Ralph,

00:42:37.710 --> 00:42:43.659
again, Let's give out the website again and any

00:42:43.659 --> 00:42:46.900
other social media, maybe that's out there and

00:42:46.900 --> 00:42:52.039
then how you can donate to help defray the expenses

00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.940
of this trip. Okay. Well, once again, the, the

00:42:55.940 --> 00:43:00.360
website address is pitcarondx .com all one word

00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.900
pitcarondx .com. Uh, we have a Facebook site

00:43:04.900 --> 00:43:09.130
and, um, I think if you just go to Facebook and

00:43:09.130 --> 00:43:12.090
look up Pitcairn Island, the expedition, you

00:43:12.090 --> 00:43:15.409
should be able to find it. We've got over a thousand

00:43:15.409 --> 00:43:20.090
followers on that now. And there's a lot of interesting

00:43:20.090 --> 00:43:22.389
stories that pop up there that you may not find

00:43:22.389 --> 00:43:26.309
on the website. So check that out too. Do both

00:43:26.309 --> 00:43:29.389
places. And I think you'll find some fun and

00:43:29.389 --> 00:43:33.039
interesting things there. Contributions wise,

00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.099
we realize we're not a top 10 entity and we're

00:43:36.099 --> 00:43:40.940
not gonna command a huge amount of money coming

00:43:40.940 --> 00:43:43.400
from the ham population. We're getting some,

00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.679
we appreciate it greatly. If anybody would like

00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:49.719
to help us with this, we'd appreciate that. On

00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.199
the website you will find buttons that say donate

00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:58.369
on there and if you do that, great. Be sure you

00:43:58.369 --> 00:44:00.650
work us whether you donate or not. That's immaterial

00:44:00.650 --> 00:44:03.690
work us. Have fun Enjoy learn a little bit about

00:44:03.690 --> 00:44:06.750
pit care and say hello to us while we're there

00:44:06.750 --> 00:44:09.710
And hopefully during this bottom of the sunspot

00:44:09.710 --> 00:44:11.909
cycle will be some activity that you can enjoy

00:44:11.909 --> 00:44:18.099
him radio with Well said and and we'll leave

00:44:18.099 --> 00:44:22.039
it right there have some fun with it and Hopefully

00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.679
get pit Karen in the log so guys thanks so much

00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.079
for taking the time to come on and and Glenn

00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:33.340
for for for dodging the cows and and and and

00:44:33.340 --> 00:44:37.300
the cell towers and everything so Actually before

00:44:37.300 --> 00:44:40.179
we go we've got to talk about the cows for a

00:44:40.179 --> 00:44:42.480
minute. We'll tell tell tell everybody what's

00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.349
going on with the cows because Everybody didn't

00:44:45.349 --> 00:44:48.210
hear that. I grew up with, you know, raising

00:44:48.210 --> 00:44:50.989
Angus cattle, and I've always had an interest

00:44:50.989 --> 00:44:54.150
in that. One of my friends down here has a herd

00:44:54.150 --> 00:44:57.710
on his ranch, and it's calving time, so we just

00:44:57.710 --> 00:45:00.449
came down to kind of watch and help out if we

00:45:00.449 --> 00:45:05.170
could. So far, things went very well. And a bunch

00:45:05.170 --> 00:45:07.030
of new little calves. Oh, they're so cute. If

00:45:07.030 --> 00:45:09.570
you've never seen a newborn little calf, they're

00:45:09.570 --> 00:45:11.829
so innocent, you go up and cuddle with and hug.

00:45:13.370 --> 00:45:19.449
It's it's there's nothing like it Well, we wish

00:45:19.449 --> 00:45:22.889
you the best on the rest of your trip down there

00:45:22.889 --> 00:45:26.690
in Texas and Thanks so much for calling in and

00:45:26.690 --> 00:45:29.929
trying keep trying to get back with us and we're

00:45:29.929 --> 00:45:33.889
glad that you did Hopefully we'll have better

00:45:33.889 --> 00:45:39.500
propagation from pit Karen And Ralph, thanks

00:45:39.500 --> 00:45:42.159
as always. We appreciate you coming on and telling

00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.099
us about all of these and we hope to hear you

00:45:45.099 --> 00:45:48.820
from Pitcairn soon. Okay. Thank you, Neil. My

00:45:48.820 --> 00:45:54.030
pleasure. Well, that is, oh, thanks. That is

00:45:54.030 --> 00:45:57.070
a wrap for this week's edition of HamTalk Live.

00:45:57.090 --> 00:46:00.909
Thanks to my guests, Dr. Ralph Fedor, KZYR, and

00:46:00.909 --> 00:46:04.590
Dr. Glenn Johnson, W0GJ, and everybody out there

00:46:04.590 --> 00:46:07.510
in cyberspace for listening and typing in and

00:46:07.510 --> 00:46:10.730
invite you all back next Thursday night at 9

00:46:10.730 --> 00:46:14.849
p .m. Eastern Time when Howard Bernstein, WB2UZE,

00:46:15.030 --> 00:46:18.070
will be here to talk about the Long Island CW

00:46:18.070 --> 00:46:20.969
Club. And for a list of all of our upcoming guests,

00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:25.199
visit HamTalkLive .com and if you like the show

00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:28.079
please leave us a review that helps others find

00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:31.440
us a little bit faster so for now this is Neil

00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:37.800
Rapp WB9VPG saying 7 3 7 5 and may the good DX

00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:39.179
be yours
