WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.660 This episode of HamTalk Live is brought to you 00:00:02.660 --> 00:00:06.059 by Tower Electronics. For connectors, cables, 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:13.019 and more, call 920 -435 -2973 or visit PL -259 00:00:13.019 --> 00:00:17.679 .com. And by ICOM, heard it, worked it, logged 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:22.899 it. Visit www .icomamerica .com slash amateur 00:00:22.899 --> 00:00:29.949 for more information about ICOM radios. Here 00:00:29.949 --> 00:00:36.350 we go, with Neoprap, here we go Welcome to Hamtoply, 00:00:36.770 --> 00:00:40.810 call in, let's talk, Neil's your guy Hamtoply, 00:00:41.149 --> 00:00:59.340 here we go, on Hamtopradio Good evening, everyone. 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.679 It's time for HamTalk Live. It's episode number 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:07.879 183, the host of So Now What, recorded live on 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:13.060 Thursday, September 26th, 2019. I'm your host, 00:01:13.180 --> 00:01:17.060 Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning in to this 00:01:17.060 --> 00:01:20.180 episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight, we're joined 00:01:20.180 --> 00:01:26.560 by Joe Karsha, NJ1Q, and Michelle Patno, W3MVP. 00:01:26.700 --> 00:01:29.400 and we'll take your calls live in just a few 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:31.780 minutes. Well last week here on the show Andy 00:01:31.780 --> 00:01:36.879 Malusi KK4LWR and Tony Malusi KD8RTT were here 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:39.879 to talk about the Collegiate QSO Party and if 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.400 you missed the show you can listen anytime at 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.420 HamTalkLive .com or on your favorite podcast 00:01:45.420 --> 00:01:49.340 app or over on YouTube or you can catch the re 00:01:49.340 --> 00:01:55.780 -broadcast on WTWW that's 5085 AM Saturday evenings 00:01:55.780 --> 00:02:00.040 at about 630 PM Eastern Time. I do want to remind 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:03.799 you that fallout is coming up. 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Joining us tonight is Michelle Patno, W3MVP. 00:05:21.769 --> 00:05:25.110 She is the ARRL communications content producer. 00:05:25.490 --> 00:05:28.110 She is the co -host, editor, and producer of 00:05:28.110 --> 00:05:31.470 the So Now What podcast. She co -hosts the show 00:05:31.470 --> 00:05:36.170 with Joe Karsha, NJ1Q, the W1AW station manager, 00:05:36.370 --> 00:05:40.339 and ARRL lab member. Both Michelle and Joe work 00:05:40.339 --> 00:05:42.819 at ARRL headquarters and reside in the general 00:05:42.819 --> 00:05:45.519 area of Newington, Connecticut and together they 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:47.899 work through questions for new and returning 00:05:47.899 --> 00:05:52.480 hams every other week on So Now What. So Joe 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:56.019 and Michelle, welcome to the show. Wow, thank 00:05:56.019 --> 00:05:58.180 you very much and thank you to the listening 00:05:58.180 --> 00:06:00.959 audience out there. Hey Neil, thank you so much 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:06.300 for having us on your show. And we had this discussion 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:09.139 before this that we went to air tonight that 00:06:09.139 --> 00:06:12.959 you know yes Joe and Michelle are going to be 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:20.500 their jovial normal selves tonight so who knows 00:06:20.500 --> 00:06:24.879 what we'll talk about so that's why this is good 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:29.079 it's just audio right Michelle it's yeah yes 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:33.600 we agree yes we like to have fun on the podcast 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:37.279 and someday we're planning on releasing a gag 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:39.500 reel of all the stuff that goes on while we're 00:06:39.500 --> 00:06:43.680 trying to record the podcast. Well you know it's 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.079 kind of funny for amateur radio news line we 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.139 put together this presentation to take to club 00:06:49.139 --> 00:06:51.699 meetings and and one of the things that I put 00:06:51.699 --> 00:06:55.939 in there was a bit of a blooper reel and so we 00:06:55.939 --> 00:06:58.740 would you know collect some of the bloopers that 00:06:58.740 --> 00:07:01.300 I've done over, you know, the last year or two 00:07:01.300 --> 00:07:03.579 and some of the other anchors and, and we put 00:07:03.579 --> 00:07:06.660 it in there. And then, then we also had, you 00:07:06.660 --> 00:07:10.620 know, my favorite part, which was the, the world 00:07:10.620 --> 00:07:15.240 of DX or as I like to call it, the world of unpronounceable 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:20.910 names and countries. And so we, we, we Give people 00:07:20.910 --> 00:07:23.050 the script and they'd try to read it and then 00:07:23.050 --> 00:07:26.069 we'd play it back. And so, yeah, you just never 00:07:26.069 --> 00:07:30.610 know what's gonna happen. It's kind of fun. Yes. 00:07:32.310 --> 00:07:34.709 I know when our listeners hear this, they go, 00:07:34.889 --> 00:07:39.050 man, that is like so seamless. If they only knew. 00:07:39.350 --> 00:07:42.889 Only knew, yes. There were times, I mean, honestly, 00:07:43.069 --> 00:07:46.230 when... And Michelle can certainly agree with 00:07:46.230 --> 00:07:49.089 this, and I think sometimes I'm worse. There 00:07:49.089 --> 00:07:51.430 could be something really simple we want to say, 00:07:52.910 --> 00:07:55.810 like soldering a connector. There were times 00:07:55.810 --> 00:07:59.470 when you cannot say soldering a connector without 00:07:59.470 --> 00:08:03.329 either laughing or just totally screwing it up. 00:08:03.529 --> 00:08:05.569 And yet by time you hear it, it sounds just like 00:08:05.569 --> 00:08:09.050 we want to do soldering a connector. So it's 00:08:09.050 --> 00:08:14.540 a lot of fun. You don't have the luxury of editing 00:08:14.540 --> 00:08:22.959 so So we will we will be good I Don't do that. 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:25.459 We promise but Michelle don't let them know that 00:08:25.459 --> 00:08:27.800 our fingers are tied, you know cross behind our 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:36.940 backs and stuff Oh my goodness. Well, let's dig 00:08:36.940 --> 00:08:39.799 in here and let's talk a little bit about, you 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:42.360 know, what's going on. We've seen that actual 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.639 rise in the number of licensed amateurs here 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:49.440 in the U .S., but one of the issues is that many 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:51.639 still are not active. They get their license 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.759 and then that's the last you hear of them or 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.470 last you see of them. Sometimes they become frustrated 00:08:58.470 --> 00:09:01.269 and give up sometimes, you know, there's there's 00:09:01.269 --> 00:09:05.289 stuff going on and I get that you know We all 00:09:05.289 --> 00:09:10.769 are are busy but You know, it's there's just 00:09:10.769 --> 00:09:16.029 a lot of You know stuff going on but We'd like 00:09:16.029 --> 00:09:20.690 to see more people That are doing that, you know 00:09:20.690 --> 00:09:25.210 that are getting active and I need to reset something 00:09:25.210 --> 00:09:29.389 here real quick Hopefully that took care of it. 00:09:29.470 --> 00:09:33.289 Ah, oh, he did. Okay. Thank you, Jill, for telling 00:09:33.289 --> 00:09:40.049 me. We had some audio issues here and the usual 00:09:40.049 --> 00:09:44.570 one, so I got it fixed. But, you know, there's 00:09:44.570 --> 00:09:47.610 just a lot of reasons why people aren't active 00:09:47.610 --> 00:09:53.610 and so there's a push to mentor people and get 00:09:53.610 --> 00:09:58.809 people back in. to the world of ham radio or 00:09:58.809 --> 00:10:02.409 get into the world and be active and stay active 00:10:02.409 --> 00:10:06.629 and You know some podcasts have kind of targeted 00:10:06.629 --> 00:10:09.769 that like a hundred watts to wire They took on 00:10:09.769 --> 00:10:13.669 the aspect of the new ham and really geared it 00:10:13.669 --> 00:10:18.830 for that and now a RL has added your show to 00:10:18.830 --> 00:10:21.549 Help out the newer ham. So tell us how that came 00:10:21.549 --> 00:10:26.750 about and and how to find your show Well, Neal, 00:10:26.750 --> 00:10:29.990 this actually started a couple years ago. Bob 00:10:29.990 --> 00:10:33.850 Allison, WB1 GCM of the ARRL lab actually said, 00:10:33.990 --> 00:10:36.129 you know, it would be really cool if we did a 00:10:36.129 --> 00:10:39.730 podcast. So one day Bob and I went into our media 00:10:39.730 --> 00:10:43.529 room, we recorded a demo and the CEO at the time 00:10:43.529 --> 00:10:46.929 said, this is cool, let's go with it. And as 00:10:46.929 --> 00:10:49.850 it developed, the podcast actually became Joe 00:10:49.850 --> 00:10:54.610 Karsha and I, and it evolved into a podcast for 00:10:54.610 --> 00:10:59.549 newer hands. And here we are, so now what? You 00:10:59.549 --> 00:11:01.889 mentioned that mentoring, and quite frankly, 00:11:02.250 --> 00:11:07.570 that is the main reason. With everything you 00:11:07.570 --> 00:11:10.269 said, the main reason why a lot of hams, especially 00:11:10.269 --> 00:11:13.110 new hams, maybe not every single new ham, but 00:11:13.110 --> 00:11:16.330 a lot of new hams, they'll contact us and they'll 00:11:16.330 --> 00:11:21.250 say, well, I'm not seeing the mentorship I should. 00:11:21.769 --> 00:11:25.350 And that's not to denigrate the clubs out there, 00:11:25.549 --> 00:11:28.009 whether they be affiliated or special service 00:11:28.009 --> 00:11:30.929 or even just a local radio club. There was a 00:11:30.929 --> 00:11:35.110 lot of great mentoring taking place. The downside 00:11:35.110 --> 00:11:38.269 is there's also not a lot of great mentoring 00:11:38.269 --> 00:11:40.490 taking place and a lot of hams have commented 00:11:40.490 --> 00:11:43.809 to us that they get their license, they go through 00:11:43.809 --> 00:11:45.529 that with the club, they go through the motions 00:11:45.529 --> 00:11:49.200 and... in a nutshell and we're and we're really 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.080 not exaggerating this point they are essentially 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:57.659 given an ht and said here you go and that's not 00:11:57.659 --> 00:12:01.100 what it's meant to be it's it's meant to be amateur 00:12:01.100 --> 00:12:03.639 radio it's meant to be all encompassing all the 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.379 stuff you can do in ham radio And they're not 00:12:07.379 --> 00:12:09.399 seeing that, or they're not seeing it at the 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:12.720 level that it used to be many years ago. And 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:16.240 we hate using that term many years ago, but it's 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:21.320 true. So that was one of the reasons why Michelle 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:23.899 and Bob actually went through this process of 00:12:23.899 --> 00:12:26.059 starting the podcast, was to say, you know what? 00:12:26.179 --> 00:12:30.659 We're seeing this coming in from newly licensed 00:12:30.659 --> 00:12:35.230 hams. What can we do about it to help? One of 00:12:35.230 --> 00:12:41.289 the reasons why. Well, how would people find 00:12:41.289 --> 00:12:44.070 the show and listen to it? How do they get to 00:12:44.070 --> 00:12:48.409 that? So you can find Sonawa either on Blueberry, 00:12:49.090 --> 00:12:51.929 Stitcher, Apple Podcasts, or whichever podcast 00:12:51.929 --> 00:12:56.809 app that you use. Okay. Well, that's easy enough. 00:12:57.190 --> 00:13:00.470 And so wherever you find HamTalk Live, you're 00:13:00.470 --> 00:13:04.250 probably going to find Sonawa as well. that makes 00:13:04.250 --> 00:13:09.570 it easy to find. So in all of the shows that 00:13:09.570 --> 00:13:14.090 you've done so far, what is the most interesting 00:13:14.090 --> 00:13:20.269 question you've received? We receive a lot of 00:13:20.269 --> 00:13:22.730 questions. We do, we do, which is really great 00:13:22.730 --> 00:13:24.769 and we really appreciate all the questions and 00:13:24.769 --> 00:13:28.629 feedback that we get. By the way, I should mention 00:13:28.629 --> 00:13:35.700 that We're at W1AW here. We just wanted to put 00:13:35.700 --> 00:13:39.720 that little, you know, thing in there for whiskey, 00:13:39.820 --> 00:13:41.179 one -off whiskey here in Newton, Connecticut. 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.899 That's where we're actually speaking with you 00:13:43.899 --> 00:13:46.960 from. So just W1AW. Yay, go W1AW. Anyway, we're 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.539 here at the station. Anyway, we're trying to 00:13:49.539 --> 00:13:55.899 be serious here, folks. Well, like I told you 00:13:55.899 --> 00:13:57.879 earlier, we did eat a lot of candy before we 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:03.399 started this interview. But anyway, it's going 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.000 to go downhill from here, I can tell. I think 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:08.500 she's laughing. At least we're laughing good, 00:14:08.659 --> 00:14:11.679 yay. Exactly. And he's writing a note saying, 00:14:12.299 --> 00:14:17.000 never again, never again. We told you we need 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:20.960 editing. Yes, we need a lot of editing. We do 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.659 get a lot of different questions. A lot of them 00:14:24.659 --> 00:14:28.679 actually come after the podcast because we sparked 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:33.039 something. We've had a couple of really, really 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:36.240 good podcasts. I mean really popular with the 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.679 listeners. The CW one actually just recently, 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.259 the one on contesting, the one on antenna cables. 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:46.740 Earlier on when we had the one setting up your 00:14:46.740 --> 00:14:48.960 starter station, these actually generated more 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.639 questions than we answered. So it's really hard 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:57.940 to pinpoint any one particular question. You 00:14:57.940 --> 00:15:01.700 know, some of us will ask us about, say, the 00:15:01.700 --> 00:15:07.440 history of amateur radio or a particular venue 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:09.320 with an amateur radio, something like that, but 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:11.340 there's so many different questions that we get 00:15:11.340 --> 00:15:14.080 it's hard to pinpoint them, but we do try to 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:17.360 answer them the best we can, and if we can't 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:21.120 answer them, and by that I mean it's a question 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:27.169 not intended for the, so now what, podcast. It's 00:15:27.169 --> 00:15:31.190 not a newbie question or it's just not a question 00:15:31.190 --> 00:15:33.889 like that at all. We will actually redirect those 00:15:33.889 --> 00:15:36.669 questions to other staff members. So whether 00:15:36.669 --> 00:15:39.870 that be a question that should go to the laboratory 00:15:39.870 --> 00:15:43.710 or the Aero VEC or to membership, because we 00:15:43.710 --> 00:15:46.950 actually get that. We get a lot of non -podcast 00:15:46.950 --> 00:15:49.210 questions, I think because people say, oh, there's 00:15:49.210 --> 00:15:50.809 an email address, I'm going to send my question 00:15:50.809 --> 00:15:54.610 to it. So we will redirect them if necessary, 00:15:55.210 --> 00:15:57.049 but I would have to say out of all of them, maybe 00:15:57.049 --> 00:16:01.129 the questions concerning coax. If someone near 00:16:01.129 --> 00:16:03.870 does is, which one? It's got to be the coax one. 00:16:04.409 --> 00:16:07.029 It generated a lot of good questions and I think 00:16:07.029 --> 00:16:12.029 we were able to answer them really well. Michelle, 00:16:12.450 --> 00:16:15.830 anything to add there? Anyone that stood out 00:16:15.830 --> 00:16:20.539 to you? I'm really, I'm with Joe on that one. 00:16:20.539 --> 00:16:24.759 We really do receive a lot of questions from 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:28.919 all ages. But there was one that actually did 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:31.240 stick out to me. It was actually a project that 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:33.460 Joe created, the six meter dive pole. Oh, the 00:16:33.460 --> 00:16:35.919 six meter dive pole, yes. After one of our episodes, 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:38.379 a lot of listeners wrote in and said, hey, you 00:16:38.379 --> 00:16:40.139 know, I really want the instructions. I want 00:16:40.139 --> 00:16:42.379 to try that. Let's build it. Yeah. And that's 00:16:42.379 --> 00:16:45.379 awesome. The history behind that was a few years 00:16:45.379 --> 00:16:50.100 ago. I was tasked to, and this is just like when 00:16:50.100 --> 00:16:53.659 the podcast was still in its infancy's infancy, 00:16:54.539 --> 00:16:57.879 we were trying some new things and I was tasked 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:04.000 with building simple stuff that a brand new ham, 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:06.099 especially one on a budget, because we know that's 00:17:06.099 --> 00:17:09.480 something that has taken consideration, but building 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:13.579 really simple antennas. And one of them was a 00:17:13.579 --> 00:17:18.250 simple code hanger antenna for two and seventy 00:17:18.250 --> 00:17:20.869 centimeters of satellite which is still here 00:17:20.869 --> 00:17:22.549 in the floor at the station and actually generates 00:17:22.549 --> 00:17:25.210 a lot of conversation but the other one that 00:17:25.210 --> 00:17:27.930 Michelle is referring to is the six meter dipole 00:17:27.930 --> 00:17:32.210 project and we wanted to come up with an extremely 00:17:32.210 --> 00:17:37.039 simple way of making a hard using aluminum six 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.339 meter dipole that you can build using materials 00:17:40.339 --> 00:17:43.660 from your local improvement store and that we 00:17:43.660 --> 00:17:45.960 know that there's videos online how to do this 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.559 and there's instructions on how to do this and 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.740 so we figured okay well let's let's go to the 00:17:51.740 --> 00:17:54.220 hardware and hardware store and pick stuff out 00:17:54.220 --> 00:17:56.460 and say can we make an intent out of this and 00:17:56.460 --> 00:17:59.720 so we did and we talked about that on our podcast 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:01.700 and I actually had written down the instructions 00:18:01.700 --> 00:18:05.490 for that And it essentially is an extremely simple 00:18:05.490 --> 00:18:07.829 six meter die pole. You make it, you put it on 00:18:07.829 --> 00:18:10.410 a painter's pole, you can raise that painter's 00:18:10.410 --> 00:18:12.109 pole up if you have one of the extendable things, 00:18:12.250 --> 00:18:15.670 and it actually works quite well. And just after 00:18:15.670 --> 00:18:18.230 I built it, our CEO at the time had taken it 00:18:18.230 --> 00:18:23.549 out and used it in one of the VHF contests. Now, 00:18:23.910 --> 00:18:25.789 it was on top of a building, but it actually 00:18:25.789 --> 00:18:29.480 worked out well. when people would ask about 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:32.180 that we would send them the instructions on that 00:18:32.180 --> 00:18:34.039 antenna and again, it's it's something simple 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:37.119 and I think some of the The more seasoned amateur 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:38.740 radio operators out there we go. Yeah, but it's 00:18:38.740 --> 00:18:40.980 just it's just a six meter antenna It's four 00:18:40.980 --> 00:18:44.460 feet nine inches either side, but for a lot of 00:18:44.460 --> 00:18:48.440 new amateur radio operators What we think is 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:51.480 really really simple to do. Well, we all start 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:54.240 out the same. It's actually difficult for them 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:59.230 to visualize it so That was a very long explanation, 00:18:59.529 --> 00:19:02.829 wasn't it, Michelle? But it was very thorough. 00:19:02.910 --> 00:19:05.289 Oh, thank you, thank you. Very thorough, yes. 00:19:06.210 --> 00:19:09.890 Well, what are you two have planned in the months 00:19:09.890 --> 00:19:13.009 to come? Where are you going with this next? 00:19:14.769 --> 00:19:24.269 Oh, that's a secret. We would have to do terrible 00:19:24.269 --> 00:19:29.099 things for ourselves. Well, as you can tell from 00:19:29.099 --> 00:19:32.039 our podcast, we try to be all -encompassing. 00:19:32.180 --> 00:19:34.720 I mean, one thing might be technical, one thing 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:38.799 might not be technical, one thing might be social. 00:19:39.859 --> 00:19:44.519 Yeah, definitely. Anything that looks like it 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:48.819 would affect a brand new licensed amateur trader 00:19:48.819 --> 00:19:51.599 or operator, obviously with a little bit of tinges 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:54.900 of they're needing mentorship, but we get a lot 00:19:54.900 --> 00:19:59.819 of stuff from people. And actually, she's pulling 00:19:59.819 --> 00:20:06.259 up the list of our upcoming podcast. So what 00:20:06.259 --> 00:20:13.680 do we want to say? What can we say? Well, we 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:21.059 can kind of mention this. And I hear it a lot 00:20:21.059 --> 00:20:26.190 at W1AW. And it's the old I'm just a technician. 00:20:27.230 --> 00:20:30.549 And I will tell these licensed amateur operator 00:20:30.549 --> 00:20:32.650 operators when they come here, no, you're not 00:20:32.650 --> 00:20:35.829 just a technician. You are a licensed amateur 00:20:35.829 --> 00:20:40.329 operator. And you went through the same procedures 00:20:40.329 --> 00:20:45.650 as everyone else. So that upcoming podcast is 00:20:45.650 --> 00:20:49.309 not so much a technical one, but we're gonna 00:20:49.309 --> 00:20:51.990 try to deal a little bit with some of the things 00:20:51.990 --> 00:20:55.170 that new amateur operators have to deal with. 00:20:55.529 --> 00:20:58.069 Especially if they're brand new, coming into 00:20:58.069 --> 00:21:02.529 a club, they're coming up against a lot of older, 00:21:02.990 --> 00:21:06.529 well -seasoned hams. And I think you kind of 00:21:06.529 --> 00:21:08.910 get where I'm coming from here, Neil. And so 00:21:08.910 --> 00:21:12.509 we just want to talk about that. But, Michelle, 00:21:12.809 --> 00:21:15.640 anything else? Well, that one will be released 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:18.400 next week for October 3rd for our next episode. 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.839 And then shortly after, we're going to get into 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:25.240 the ham language, the ham lingo, and really just 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:29.200 code it for everyone so everyone knows what everybody's 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:31.339 talking about, because not everybody knows the 00:21:31.339 --> 00:21:34.660 lingo or the shortcuts for it. Exactly. And that'll 00:21:34.660 --> 00:21:37.039 be helpful, especially just for newer hams, or 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:41.200 just starting out or a refresher. And we do have 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.539 a really special one for Halloween. Oh yes, the 00:21:43.539 --> 00:21:46.640 Halloween special. If you haven't noticed, Ham 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:49.180 Radio has really been popping up in pop culture 00:21:49.180 --> 00:21:52.579 lately, especially in horror movies or horror 00:21:52.579 --> 00:21:55.220 TV shows, which is my favorite, so I have to 00:21:55.220 --> 00:21:58.319 put a plug for it. And yet, but why? Why? Right. 00:21:59.220 --> 00:22:01.680 So we'll be kind of diving into that and talking 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:06.549 about the significance there. That sounds like 00:22:06.549 --> 00:22:11.349 some some good stuff and I look forward to To 00:22:11.349 --> 00:22:15.210 hearing all this because you know, it's one thing 00:22:15.210 --> 00:22:20.329 to You know come out there and and visit which 00:22:20.329 --> 00:22:22.569 I got to do again this summer which was really 00:22:22.569 --> 00:22:27.730 cool, but you know As part of it on and and yes 00:22:27.730 --> 00:22:29.869 because of the Teachers Institute out there and 00:22:29.869 --> 00:22:32.430 when we did the show from from Teachers Institute 00:22:32.430 --> 00:22:38.599 out there while I was there. But it was a great 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:41.140 opportunity, you know, to hang out with you guys. 00:22:41.700 --> 00:22:45.779 But you also, you know, have a chance to share 00:22:45.779 --> 00:22:49.599 these things over the podcast. And I think that 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:53.289 that gives people more of a connection. You know, 00:22:53.329 --> 00:22:56.130 it's easy to connect with you all when you go 00:22:56.130 --> 00:22:58.829 out to Newington and you drop by W1AW and you 00:22:58.829 --> 00:23:01.490 say, hey, Joe, can I use the station for an hour? 00:23:01.609 --> 00:23:03.609 Do you mind putting me on the 40 meter bulletin 00:23:03.609 --> 00:23:08.890 array? And you do that. But, you know, it's not 00:23:08.890 --> 00:23:15.710 always easy to associate, you know, with people 00:23:15.710 --> 00:23:21.579 that are trying to mentor. And I think this fills 00:23:21.579 --> 00:23:25.319 a bit of a gap and many of the shows out there 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:32.480 give this gap some attention and trying to find 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:36.039 new ways to mentor hams and answer questions 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:38.779 and do this kind of thing and connect with people 00:23:38.779 --> 00:23:47.170 and I think that's really important. For folks 00:23:47.170 --> 00:23:49.730 who look at our Facebook page, they undoubtedly 00:23:49.730 --> 00:23:53.910 saw the picture last week that was taken of everybody 00:23:53.910 --> 00:23:58.349 in front of W1AW. It was taken via drone. And 00:23:58.349 --> 00:24:00.549 part of that was because there was this like 00:24:00.549 --> 00:24:03.569 staff appreciation picnic. But before that, we 00:24:03.569 --> 00:24:07.750 had the ARL HQ Sprint. And it's a 15 minute, 00:24:07.869 --> 00:24:11.710 two meter FM only on Simplex Sprint where there's 00:24:11.710 --> 00:24:15.369 zones around the organization and it's a sprint 00:24:15.369 --> 00:24:17.970 and staff will go to these different zones and 00:24:17.970 --> 00:24:21.710 you have to work other staff through three only 00:24:21.710 --> 00:24:24.069 on each frequency. There's a whole bunch of frequencies. 00:24:24.309 --> 00:24:29.029 We hand out these pre -programmed two meter HTs 00:24:29.029 --> 00:24:33.569 and we had a lot of either brand spanking new 00:24:33.569 --> 00:24:36.589 licensed staff or we had some staff that are 00:24:36.589 --> 00:24:39.619 just not licensed at all. And the point of it 00:24:39.619 --> 00:24:41.720 was to not only have this fun sprint, because 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:44.500 it really was fun. It really was. It was fun. 00:24:44.819 --> 00:24:50.119 But also we were mentoring non -licensed staff. 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.900 And not that we're experts by any means. We all 00:24:53.900 --> 00:24:55.640 have to be open to learning. Every single one 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:57.559 of us. Even those of us who have been hams for 00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:00.779 a few years. That was me clearing my throat. 00:25:02.140 --> 00:25:08.569 So we had a really good time mentoring. the new 00:25:08.569 --> 00:25:12.390 the new amateur operators here, but also the 00:25:12.390 --> 00:25:16.630 non licensed staff and there's a certain level 00:25:16.630 --> 00:25:21.109 of enjoyment in doing that because You're able 00:25:21.109 --> 00:25:23.390 to say okay. This is how you do this This is 00:25:23.390 --> 00:25:25.890 how you do that and oh by the way like for this 00:25:25.890 --> 00:25:29.839 sprint Come with me in my zone because like W1W2 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:33.299 was considered a zone and you can help log or 00:25:33.299 --> 00:25:36.980 as long as I'm there you can be actually making 00:25:36.980 --> 00:25:42.119 the contacts and There's a certain level of fun 00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:44.740 You know, what would be the right a personal 00:25:44.740 --> 00:25:48.140 reward to know that you're helping somebody you're 00:25:48.140 --> 00:25:51.220 you're helping them to help them for no other 00:25:51.220 --> 00:25:53.359 reason then it's it makes you feel good about 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:58.319 yourself and for a lot of the the amateur radio 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:00.859 operators out there that are thinking well should 00:26:00.859 --> 00:26:03.500 I help the newbie should I not you know maybe 00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:05.519 you should because someone was probably there 00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:09.539 for you and you got to pay it forward and you 00:26:09.539 --> 00:26:11.799 have experience they're looking for experience 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.140 they may be hungry for that experience because 00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:17.680 they want to have fun in amateur radio and the 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.319 best way to do that is to is to give it to them 00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:23.660 Because then that makes them a better ham and 00:26:23.660 --> 00:26:26.940 then they become a really awesome ham because 00:26:26.940 --> 00:26:30.920 everything is awesome in ham radio and Then they 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.480 pass it on and it keeps amateur radio alive and 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:38.400 vibrant We're very honestly we are passionate 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:40.579 about amateur radio here and not because we just 00:26:40.579 --> 00:26:46.619 play them on TV So Michelle how's the so now 00:26:46.619 --> 00:26:50.839 what podcast doing so far So currently, just 00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.099 from starting this year and having our first 00:26:53.099 --> 00:26:56.200 episode go out in March, we're at already over 00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:01.039 82 ,000 downloads. And currently, we're on iTunes 00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.319 chart for hobbies in the US. We're currently 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:05.779 number 18 right now, and that's really, really 00:27:05.779 --> 00:27:09.319 exciting. Very good. Well, it sounds like some 00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:12.809 people are listening, and that's the goal. Well, 00:27:13.109 --> 00:27:14.910 it's time for a break, so we're going to take 00:27:14.910 --> 00:27:17.609 a break and when we come back we're going to 00:27:17.609 --> 00:27:20.809 take your questions and comments for Joe and 00:27:20.809 --> 00:27:23.430 Michelle right after this word from ICOM America 00:27:23.430 --> 00:27:27.289 right here on HamTalk Live. Heard it, worked 00:27:27.289 --> 00:27:30.660 it, logged it. It's time to get the transceiver 00:27:30.660 --> 00:27:34.140 that's best suited for your lifestyle. ICOM offers 00:27:34.140 --> 00:27:36.559 a variety of high performance and innovative 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.920 products. 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So if you have 00:30:33.380 --> 00:30:36.599 a question for Michelle or Joe, give us a call 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.440 at eight one two net ham one eight one two six 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:46.779 three 8 4 2 6 1 or you can tweet us at ham talk 00:30:46.779 --> 00:30:50.500 live and if you're listening to us on WTWW or 00:30:50.500 --> 00:30:54.279 on the podcast edition we're not here so sorry 00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:59.480 but it's Thursday and we're not there so we're 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:01.640 going to talk a little bit about some of those 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:07.660 challenges that being a new ham that we kind 00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:10.680 of alluded to, Joe did a little bit ago, but 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:15.220 let me run through a few things. First of all, 00:31:15.259 --> 00:31:18.720 Laura into LJM from Western New York is listening, 00:31:18.819 --> 00:31:22.220 so hello Laura, as well as Chris, thanks for 00:31:22.220 --> 00:31:26.460 being there as usual, and Jill. And Jill wants 00:31:26.460 --> 00:31:31.039 to know if the podcast is done live, and is there 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:34.160 a link that she can put into, she's one of the 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.640 moderators in the Dayton Hamvention Fanatics 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:39.900 Group. Is there a link that she can share or 00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:44.099 put on the group whenever a new podcast comes 00:31:44.099 --> 00:31:49.960 out? Hello. So the podcast is not done live, 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.960 but there is a link. We do post it to our Facebook 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.240 and Twitter page every time it comes out. So 00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:58.099 you could absolutely reshare it to your Facebook 00:31:58.099 --> 00:32:01.039 group. I'd be happy to send you an RSS feed link 00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:03.039 offline if you wanted something automatically 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:06.680 to send. I'm like, imagine if it was live. Oh 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:14.519 boy. That could be painful. So Jill, we'll get 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:19.700 you set up here. And we got a tweet from the 00:32:19.700 --> 00:32:25.039 one and only Matt Severin at 8MS. Matt! Just 00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.059 wanted to share I've been enjoying both your 00:32:28.059 --> 00:32:33.839 podcasts. And so now what? Always learning something 00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:38.440 new, so that's what. So thank you, Matt, for 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.480 listening and commenting in tonight. And yes, 00:32:43.619 --> 00:32:48.460 Matt, yes, we can always learn something, can't 00:32:48.460 --> 00:32:50.259 we, Matt? And Matt knows what I'm talking about. 00:32:50.420 --> 00:32:52.140 They're just a little inside joke, if you know 00:32:52.140 --> 00:32:58.339 what I mean. So yes. Yes, we always can. There's 00:32:58.339 --> 00:33:03.380 always something to learn. I won't mention the 00:33:03.380 --> 00:33:07.019 big goof up that I made in the middle of Teacher's 00:33:07.019 --> 00:33:10.740 Institute. Like, you know, how to, like, you 00:33:10.740 --> 00:33:18.380 know, assemble an arrow antenna. You know, we 00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:22.019 learn from our mistakes. Exactly. I make mistakes 00:33:22.019 --> 00:33:23.700 all the time around here. I haven't electrocuted 00:33:23.700 --> 00:33:29.660 myself yet, so. Well, let's talk a little bit 00:33:29.660 --> 00:33:33.170 about this. challenge. And you alluded to this 00:33:33.170 --> 00:33:37.789 before when we've been talking about it. There's 00:33:37.789 --> 00:33:40.069 some comments of, you know, I'm just fed up, 00:33:40.069 --> 00:33:43.630 I'm just tired of hearing all these people bashing 00:33:43.630 --> 00:33:50.130 new hams and the radios and all that kind of 00:33:50.130 --> 00:33:54.490 thing. What are some of those challenges of new 00:33:54.490 --> 00:34:00.609 hams that they have to face? Do you want me to 00:34:00.609 --> 00:34:03.809 answer this one, Michelle? I can answer this 00:34:03.809 --> 00:34:08.690 one because I see it a lot when visitors come 00:34:08.690 --> 00:34:11.369 here because obviously we get a lot of newly 00:34:11.369 --> 00:34:16.349 licensed hams. Right. And I think aside from 00:34:16.349 --> 00:34:18.110 the mentoring, again, we kind of mentioned that 00:34:18.110 --> 00:34:24.070 earlier, it's this there's so much they can do, 00:34:24.150 --> 00:34:29.679 but what can they do? And right now, as A lot 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:33.139 of us know, most of us know, we're at the absolute, 00:34:33.380 --> 00:34:37.420 pretty much bottom of solar cycle 24. And it's 00:34:37.420 --> 00:34:43.039 extremely disturbing, because especially for 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.920 a newly licensed amateur who may only be a technician 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.320 class license holder. Not just a ham, but they 00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.260 hold a technician class license. So right now, 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.699 their privileges, if they want to do voice, place 00:34:54.699 --> 00:34:58.360 them on 28 .3 to 28 .5 megahertz on the 10 meter 00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.099 band. And unfortunately, because sunspot conditions 00:35:02.099 --> 00:35:06.239 are horrific, you go on there, you call CQ interior 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.719 blue in the face, and no one comes back to you. 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:13.219 And I can see where a lot of these newly licensed 00:35:13.219 --> 00:35:15.320 amateur operator operators would be frustrated 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.059 over that, because I'm sure they're thinking 00:35:17.059 --> 00:35:18.840 to themselves, well, why did I bother? I can't 00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:22.210 talk to anyone. There is not as much activity 00:35:22.210 --> 00:35:27.050 on FM just generic analog FM repeaters. So why 00:35:27.050 --> 00:35:32.469 and to them I'll say to them, you know, you're 00:35:32.469 --> 00:35:35.710 you're not relegated just to 10 meters But if 00:35:35.710 --> 00:35:39.690 you want to be on 10 meters in addition to voice 00:35:39.690 --> 00:35:43.829 You could run digital and and I and I know that 00:35:43.829 --> 00:35:45.750 there might have to actually be this collective 00:35:45.750 --> 00:35:50.789 grown when I say Ft8 but Right now, FTA is a 00:35:50.789 --> 00:35:55.250 decent mode to use, especially because we're 00:35:55.250 --> 00:35:57.969 at the bottom of the solar cycle. And while you 00:35:57.969 --> 00:36:02.369 may not find any activity on voice, maybe not 00:36:02.369 --> 00:36:04.989 even CW, because again, they have CW privileges 00:36:04.989 --> 00:36:07.269 as well, which we always recommend you learn 00:36:07.269 --> 00:36:11.309 CW because it's a fun mode. They could try digital 00:36:11.309 --> 00:36:13.789 communications. They could try FTA. They could 00:36:13.789 --> 00:36:18.409 try PSK 31 or Olivia or MFSK 16. There's a number 00:36:18.409 --> 00:36:20.929 of multimode programs down there that they can 00:36:20.929 --> 00:36:25.289 download and use. So if they find frustration 00:36:25.289 --> 00:36:29.030 in not working other amateur operator operators 00:36:29.030 --> 00:36:32.050 on one part of the band, go to a different part. 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:36.019 And then, of course, you have all that experimentation 00:36:36.019 --> 00:36:38.340 that you can do if you don't want to just operate 00:36:38.340 --> 00:36:42.280 above 50 megahertz. There are a lot of hams up 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.579 there that are working with mesh networks like 00:36:45.579 --> 00:36:48.860 the Arden systems. They're experimenting with 00:36:48.860 --> 00:36:51.699 their Raspberry Pis. I mean, I do that myself. 00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.380 I actually have a Pi that I will remote into, 00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:57.840 and Neil, I think we actually talked about this, 00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:03.940 to do ham radio stuff. So there's experimentation 00:37:03.940 --> 00:37:08.059 open to them. They can they can integrate Arduino 00:37:08.059 --> 00:37:12.619 with radio so if If they're finding they just 00:37:12.619 --> 00:37:14.360 can't get on the air to talk to somebody well 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:16.780 then investigate all the other stuff because 00:37:16.780 --> 00:37:20.239 there was so much out there and You know, we 00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:23.760 kind of talked about this earlier before the 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.760 start of the show and that yeah, there were some 00:37:28.250 --> 00:37:31.510 radio operators out there that are just disgusted 00:37:31.510 --> 00:37:34.630 they they don't want to do it anymore they're 00:37:34.630 --> 00:37:38.550 selling their equipment and I just we can't understand 00:37:38.550 --> 00:37:42.690 that mindset it's now Michelle is a brand new 00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:46.469 ham she has so much to look forward to that she 00:37:46.469 --> 00:37:50.630 can do and for me I've been doing it since I 00:37:50.630 --> 00:37:53.650 was a little kid I mean literally starting out 00:37:53.650 --> 00:37:56.469 in kindergarten and it's still fascinating there's 00:37:56.469 --> 00:38:00.750 still stuff to do you're you're sending out radio 00:38:00.750 --> 00:38:03.710 waves and you are, they're cutting across the 00:38:03.710 --> 00:38:06.849 ether and they're coming down in some other country 00:38:06.849 --> 00:38:10.750 or some place and you're communicating back and 00:38:10.750 --> 00:38:14.170 forth and I guess if there's some frustration 00:38:14.170 --> 00:38:19.789 they need to find that passion again. What got 00:38:19.789 --> 00:38:22.190 them into amateur in the first place, reignite 00:38:22.190 --> 00:38:24.429 that, play with some of the other modes, look 00:38:24.429 --> 00:38:30.610 at all the technology that's out there. 812 -638 00:38:30.610 --> 00:38:34.570 -4261 is the phone number so if you'd like to 00:38:34.570 --> 00:38:37.590 give us a call you can do that right now and 00:38:37.590 --> 00:38:40.550 we'll check the tweets here again too so if you 00:38:40.550 --> 00:38:44.369 want to tweet us it's at HamTalk Live but but 00:38:44.369 --> 00:38:50.889 totally agree it's just there are going to be 00:38:50.889 --> 00:38:54.230 problems anytime you have a group anytime you 00:38:54.230 --> 00:38:56.369 have you know multiple people there's going to 00:38:56.369 --> 00:39:01.400 be problems And we've run into that at school. 00:39:01.820 --> 00:39:06.539 Occasionally we get some hecklers on. I've got 00:39:06.539 --> 00:39:09.960 15, 16, 17 -year -old kids in high school trying 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:11.920 to get them on the air and get them encouraged. 00:39:13.139 --> 00:39:16.719 And somebody starts jamming them on the frequency 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.840 and take the frequency away and that kind of 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:24.039 thing. And the advice is the same. Turn the knob. 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.199 Exactly. And they have to look at the benefits 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:38.280 of it. If an individual wants to get into any 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.019 STEM or STEAM, because we have the two terms 00:39:42.019 --> 00:39:44.679 now, they want to get into engineering or technology, 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.300 amateur radio is an incredible stepping stone. 00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:51.579 And I'm sure some listeners are probably going, 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.920 yeah, but it's kind of narrow in its focuses. 00:39:55.139 --> 00:39:59.079 Well, actually not really. Look at how many medical 00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.199 advancements or experimentation are being done 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:09.119 by amateur radio operators. Steps in military, 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.340 in high -speed communications. It's not a stretch 00:40:14.340 --> 00:40:17.780 to say many of the innovators, many of the movers 00:40:17.780 --> 00:40:21.579 and shakers in these various technologies are 00:40:21.579 --> 00:40:25.380 probably or were amateur radio operators and 00:40:25.380 --> 00:40:29.480 maybe they got that spark for the technology 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:34.300 from being a ham because it is yes it's a hobby 00:40:34.300 --> 00:40:37.119 I refer to it as a service because while it is 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.800 also service it is a technical service but you 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.780 don't have to be an engineer but it sparks it. 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:47.019 I mean, I was lucky. I got to him radio when 00:40:47.019 --> 00:40:49.340 I was really young. I was always into radio. 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.980 So when I got to college and was taking electronics, 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:56.179 it was like, this stuff is like second nature. 00:40:57.260 --> 00:41:02.300 Except the calculus. The calculus was scary. 00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:05.880 And now my son, who's also going to school to 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.679 be an engineer, has to take calculus. And I just 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.500 sit back and laugh. But anyway, because now he 00:41:11.500 --> 00:41:17.210 has to deal with that. But it can just spur a 00:41:17.210 --> 00:41:19.309 lot of stuff in their head about what they can 00:41:19.309 --> 00:41:27.670 do. Who knows? Maybe the new ham now is the engineer 00:41:27.670 --> 00:41:30.849 in the future that finally figures out a way 00:41:30.849 --> 00:41:33.730 for warp drive technology. And I'm not saying 00:41:33.730 --> 00:41:36.070 that to be funny. I actually mean maybe they 00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:41.829 do finally figure it out. Or maybe the ham now 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.440 figures out a way to, oh my gosh, I could break 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.260 the code in cancer research or other medical 00:41:50.260 --> 00:41:54.219 problems, Alzheimer's, you name it. And it all 00:41:54.219 --> 00:41:58.199 starts by being a ham, being an amitradio operator. 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:04.860 It's not that far a stretch. We're very passionate 00:42:04.860 --> 00:42:10.179 about amitradio. We are, definitely. Well, let's 00:42:10.179 --> 00:42:16.119 give one more opportunity here at 812 -638 -4261 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.059 if you'd like to call in or tweet because we're 00:42:19.059 --> 00:42:22.320 just about out of time. So let's get one last 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:26.340 chance here to chime in or ask a question if 00:42:26.340 --> 00:42:31.219 you'd want to. We're talking with Michelle W3MVP 00:42:31.219 --> 00:42:37.780 and Joe NJ1Q from ARRL's New Ham podcast. So 00:42:37.780 --> 00:42:42.969 now what? Michelle, share with us a little bit 00:42:42.969 --> 00:42:46.510 about what goes into making an episode of So 00:42:46.510 --> 00:42:51.369 Now What? And here comes the expert because I 00:42:51.369 --> 00:42:54.469 just walk in from off the street. This is Michelle's 00:42:54.469 --> 00:42:59.409 baby. I'm telling you folks, this is... She's 00:42:59.409 --> 00:43:03.849 the expert. So what happens is... We all come 00:43:03.849 --> 00:43:07.530 together and that's David Isger, Joe Karsha and 00:43:07.530 --> 00:43:10.170 I, we all come together, we discuss topics and 00:43:10.170 --> 00:43:13.869 ideas for future podcast episodes. Then David 00:43:13.869 --> 00:43:16.289 writes the script notes and then me and Joe come 00:43:16.289 --> 00:43:19.250 together and we discuss it further. And we really, 00:43:19.250 --> 00:43:21.670 we just go through it and say, you know, what 00:43:21.670 --> 00:43:25.110 will be valuable to newer hams or anybody listening? 00:43:25.170 --> 00:43:28.190 Because from our comments, we realize too, it's 00:43:28.190 --> 00:43:31.329 not just new hams that are listening to us. We 00:43:31.329 --> 00:43:34.469 get a lot of questions from well -seasoned hams. 00:43:34.769 --> 00:43:38.550 It's phenomenal. Yeah, it's really exciting, 00:43:38.869 --> 00:43:42.690 too, that just more experienced hams, they like 00:43:42.690 --> 00:43:44.269 what we're doing, which is great. That's our 00:43:44.269 --> 00:43:49.090 goal, and they like listening to it. So we come 00:43:49.090 --> 00:43:52.030 together, we think of new topics and ideas, and 00:43:52.030 --> 00:43:54.610 a lot of them are based on questions or responses 00:43:54.610 --> 00:43:58.409 as well. And we do have a media room here at 00:43:58.409 --> 00:44:02.360 ARRL HQ. Joe and I go in there, we record, and 00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:04.480 as we mentioned before, of course, lots of editing. 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.960 Yeah, we have editing. Lots and lots of editing. 00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.260 And then it's really just putting it putting 00:44:11.260 --> 00:44:13.539 it together. I mean, I have the audio tracks 00:44:13.539 --> 00:44:18.500 and we have Sabrina Jackson of AWRL HQ. And she 00:44:18.500 --> 00:44:21.039 actually she's the voice of the intro and the 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.840 outro on the show. So we have that track on there. 00:44:24.940 --> 00:44:28.869 I put everything together. We use Adobe Audition, 00:44:30.250 --> 00:44:32.510 and once everything is set with the metadata 00:44:32.510 --> 00:44:36.110 on everything, it's uploaded to Blueberry, and 00:44:36.110 --> 00:44:39.610 it goes out to Stitcher, Apple Podcast, and it 00:44:39.610 --> 00:44:43.010 filters through all the other podcast apps. But 00:44:43.010 --> 00:44:45.070 it really does, it really does take a lot of 00:44:45.070 --> 00:44:48.429 time. The planning process, the recording process, 00:44:48.909 --> 00:44:52.400 the editing process, but, you know, we're We're 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:54.940 pretty happy with the end result, and we really 00:44:54.940 --> 00:44:57.099 just want to keep trying to make it better and 00:44:57.099 --> 00:44:59.300 hope it's helping everyone out. Yeah, because 00:44:59.300 --> 00:45:02.519 we're not experts in this. Right. Although, in 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:05.159 our defense, we did take podcast classes. We 00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:11.019 did. Oh, wow. Actual classes for that. It was 00:45:11.019 --> 00:45:13.000 like two months or something like that. We went 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:18.780 through a podcast training. And we did not say, 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:20.579 ah, throw that all out. We'll do it on our own. 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.000 No, we said, no, that's a good point. That's 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.940 a good point. So we kind of took that into consideration. 00:45:26.380 --> 00:45:28.099 Yeah. No, we actually followed it, really. We 00:45:28.099 --> 00:45:29.519 just didn't take it into consideration. We followed 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:33.300 it. We wanted to know, you know, the ins and 00:45:33.300 --> 00:45:36.079 outs of what to do for a podcast. And it was 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:40.940 super helpful. Yeah. Here we are. Yeah. Well, 00:45:41.139 --> 00:45:44.739 I had had some requests for you to come on and 00:45:44.739 --> 00:45:46.599 when we talked about that this summer when I 00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:49.699 was out there that we had some requests for you 00:45:49.699 --> 00:45:53.480 to come on the show and share a little bit of 00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.980 what goes into the podcast and the goals of the 00:45:57.980 --> 00:46:02.019 podcast and so you did that tonight wonderfully 00:46:02.019 --> 00:46:05.699 so thank you so much for being on the show and 00:46:05.699 --> 00:46:09.130 you're really Really glad that we were able to 00:46:09.130 --> 00:46:12.150 get it worked out and have you on and look forward 00:46:12.150 --> 00:46:15.949 to hearing more from you two. That's awesome. 00:46:15.969 --> 00:46:18.010 Thanks so much, Neil. Thank you very much, Neil. 00:46:18.030 --> 00:46:20.389 This has been a lot of fun. And I'm glad those 00:46:20.389 --> 00:46:25.929 requests are for us to sing. We could have sung, 00:46:26.489 --> 00:46:29.150 but you know. Well, now, Joe, you can play. So, 00:46:29.150 --> 00:46:33.469 you know. I can play. I can play. I can play. 00:46:33.469 --> 00:46:39.039 You can play a pre -player. I could play an mp3 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:41.760 there. That is pretty much the level of my talent 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:46.059 when it comes to singing. Listen to all Joe's 00:46:46.059 --> 00:46:48.219 greatest hits right now. So no, we don't do that. 00:46:51.739 --> 00:46:57.079 Oh my goodness. Well, thank you so much and best 00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:01.840 of luck with the show and I appreciate you being 00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.539 here. Thank you for the opportunity, Neil. We 00:47:04.539 --> 00:47:07.119 really do appreciate it. Yeah, thank you so much. 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.519 It was really great being on the show. Alright, 00:47:10.780 --> 00:47:14.039 well that is a wrap! for this week's edition 00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.800 of HamTalk Live. Thanks to my guests, Joe Karsha, 00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:21.599 NJ1Q, and Michelle Patno, W3MVP, and everybody 00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.539 out there in cyberspace for typing in tonight 00:47:24.539 --> 00:47:27.800 and listening. And I invite you back next Thursday 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.340 night, 9 p .m. Eastern Time, right here at hamtalklive 00:47:31.340 --> 00:47:34.500 .com. 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